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By *litterbabe OP Woman over a year ago

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I was at Radlett all night sat. This morning there is reports in many papers of a man drowning as the party started.

How can the party have carried on? No one talked of it and I saw nothing. Is it even possible it didn't happen?

I'm really upset that maybe someone died while we were all having fun.

I also can't understand how people could have not known.

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By *0hnnyBrav0Man over a year ago

Great Wyrley

Just had a quick Google and nothing came up.

What did come up was the club re_iew for radlett.

Many re_iews with people's face as their profile pic all for the public to see.

I will look some more. This is a terrible thing to have happened. I understand how you feel glitter.

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By *oxesMan over a year ago

Southend, Essex

If its true that's shocking.

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By *issHottieBottieWoman over a year ago

Kent

"Just had a quick Google and nothing came up.

What did come up was the club re_iew for radlett.

Many re_iews with people's face as their profile pic all for the public to see.

I will look some more. This is a terrible thing to have happened. I understand how you feel glitter.

Your googling is rubbish then I found half a dozen reports saying about it!

It does seem odd that you didn't know about it. I'm guessing they kept IT as quiet as poss as not to upset the other guests x

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By *adja_lazloCouple over a year ago

Solihull

"Just had a quick Google and nothing came up.

What did come up was the club re_iew for radlett.

Many re_iews with people's face as their profile pic all for the public to see.

I will look some more. This is a terrible thing to have happened. I understand how you feel glitter.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/swinger-drowns-pool-007-themed-sex-5425928

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By *0hnnyBrav0Man over a year ago

Great Wyrley

"Just had a quick Google and nothing came up.

What did come up was the club re_iew for radlett.

Many re_iews with people's face as their profile pic all for the public to see.

I will look some more. This is a terrible thing to have happened. I understand how you feel glitter.

Your googling is rubbish then I found half a dozen reports saying about it!

It does seem odd that you didn't know about it. I'm guessing they kept IT as quiet as poss as not to upset the other guests x"

Yes I found the reports. Sounds terrible. Although it seems strange that if it had happened no one else knew about it. The party would have been stopped yes?

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By *litterbabe OP Woman over a year ago

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"Just had a quick Google and nothing came up.

What did come up was the club re_iew for radlett.

Many re_iews with people's face as their profile pic all for the public to see.

I will look some more. This is a terrible thing to have happened. I understand how you feel glitter.

Your googling is rubbish then I found half a dozen reports saying about it!

It does seem odd that you didn't know about it. I'm guessing they kept IT as quiet as poss as not to upset the other guests x

Yes I found the reports. Sounds terrible. Although it seems strange that if it had happened no one else knew about it. The party would have been stopped yes?"

I would have thought so. And some kind of investigation too. I saw and heard nothing and was in the main social areas most of the night till the morning. Not a whisper of anything upsetting.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If it is true that this poor person died at the beginning of the party and the organisers knew and let the party carry on it shows a complete lack of respect for the deceased and a disgraceful way to behave.

I can't believe that the police didn't bring the proceeding to a close as soon as they arrived. Or were they not informed until the end? In which case it would be doubly shocking!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Papers say they had another party the following night. Is it me or does this seem disrespectful.

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By *litterbabe OP Woman over a year ago

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I've now found it happened in the early hours of Saturday, Towards the end of the Friday night party and the police said there ate no suspicious circumstances. Still terribly sad.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

This all very strange, you'd have thought it would be big news within the community?

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By *oxesMan over a year ago

Southend, Essex

"Just had a quick Google and nothing came up.

What did come up was the club re_iew for radlett.

Many re_iews with people's face as their profile pic all for the public to see.

I will look some more. This is a terrible thing to have happened. I understand how you feel glitter.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/swinger-drowns-pool-007-themed-sex-5425928"

The mirror are not well renowned for their accuracy when telling the news one of the reasons why they are in front of a gov select comitee. However with digging deeper and if true the club should issue a public appoligy.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago
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I find it incredible that people who attended didn't know that it happened,there would have been police,ambulances,all sorts of chaos surrounding the event,there were other people in that pool too,people outside smoking would have realised

How odd

If its true then its very sad

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Do people who run clubs have to do First Aid courses and things to run a club .? Would they have know how to deal with different things.

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By *andeCouple over a year ago

Bognor area

It's not just in the mirror

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By *empting Devil.Woman over a year ago

Sheffield

"Do people who run clubs have to do First Aid courses and things to run a club .? Would they have know how to deal with different things."

According to the newspaper report it happened around 12:45 and the owner/organiser performed CPR till the paramedics arrived.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Just had a quick Google and nothing came up.

What did come up was the club re_iew for radlett.

Many re_iews with people's face as their profile pic all for the public to see.

I will look some more. This is a terrible thing to have happened. I understand how you feel glitter.

Your googling is rubbish then I found half a dozen reports saying about it!

It does seem odd that you didn't know about it. I'm guessing they kept IT as quiet as poss as not to upset the other guests x"

So what you're trying to insinuate is that someone drowned and the body was recovered and police investigation was over in minutes and didn't go on all evening, inter_iewing guests, etc? That the medics, forensics and investigation teams just mooched on out of the way to allow the party to continue?

If someone had actually died then the party would have been over and not just 'carried on'. Surely.

But it appears it happened early hours of Sat morning, not at the start of Sat night. Hence that's why Sat night, nothing was disturbed.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago
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"I find it incredible that people who attended didn't know that it happened,there would have been police,ambulances,all sorts of chaos surrounding the event,there were other people in that pool too,people outside smoking would have realised

How odd

If its true then its very sad "

Ok now I realise that the OP wasn't there when it happened that changes my post

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By *litterbabe OP Woman over a year ago

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I thought I was as I thought it was Saturday at first, I since found it was the Friday party, early hours of Sat

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago
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"I thought I was as I thought it was Saturday at first, I since found it was the Friday party, early hours of Sat"

I would have thought the same because the date says saturday

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By *isscheekychopsWoman over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

How sad

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By *icketysplitsWoman over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"I was at Radlett all night sat. This morning there is reports in many papers of a man drowning as the party started.

How can the party have carried on? No one talked of it and I saw nothing. Is it even possible it didn't happen?

I'm really upset that maybe someone died while we were all having fun.

I also can't understand how people could have not known. "

I was a bit upset that Saturday went ahead when I heard about it. However, I had a great time in my ignorant bliss.

It was on Friday, which is why the pool was closed.

I'm amazed they put on such a good party on Saturday given what had happened on Friday and the police being there for most of Saturday. Then to hold it together and keep schtum that whole night.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

So the club has stayed open over the weekend, keeping this news hush to avoid losing business. It would have been better if they'd waited for the story to break and let people be informed as to whether they still wanted to visit or not. I think it's bad taste.

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By *ath_Neil_bifunCouple over a year ago

near cardiff

The show must go on..

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By *icketysplitsWoman over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"This all very strange, you'd have thought it would be big news within the community?"

I was surprised that no one seemed to know about it. I found out right at the end as I was getting in my car to leave.

I had assumed the pool was just in need of repair and there was nothing to suggest that there had been a death just 24 hours before.

It must be awful for the deceased's family and for everyone at that party.

I am not sure what it will mean for the future of Radlett's parties.

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By *ishandwantCouple over a year ago

Wellingborough

"Papers say they had another party the following night. Is it me or does this seem disrespectful. "

With all the crap that gets printed in the press these days it's hard to know what the full truth is.

This could have been something as simple as someone stubbing their toe in the pool and by the time the tabloid rags get hold of it and mince it up someone has died.

I do hope it's nothing more than misreporting.

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By *icketysplitsWoman over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"The show must go on.."

That does appear to be the case.

It was a great party and absolutely nothing was out of place to suggest anything tragic had happened.

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By *litterbabe OP Woman over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago
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Maybe not to avoid losing business but to remain professional to ensure that all those people who wanted to attend on saturday didn't have their plans ruined,people travel hours to get there,book hotels,babysitters,its not just the local pub being closed for the night and you can go off the the next one down the road

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

i dont know any of the facts - havent googled just read here - but it shouldnt have any effect on the future of the club - it could be he was taken fatally ill - i assume an ambulance was called and dealt with accordingly -

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By *litterbabe OP Woman over a year ago

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I think it would be hard to have informed everyone and sad as it is, there are no suspicious circumstances.

I'm not sure what the right call is in such a tragic situation.

It would be hard to do right by everyone. Some would prefer it closed and others may not have found out till they had travelled and arrived at the venue to find it closed.

I have no idea what is the right thing to do. I expect they took police advice but really I have no idea on such emotional and upsetting issues regarding clubs and parties.

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By *icketysplitsWoman over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"I think it would be hard to have informed everyone and sad as it is, there are no suspicious circumstances.

I'm not sure what the right call is in such a tragic situation.

It would be hard to do right by everyone. Some would prefer it closed and others may not have found out till they had travelled and arrived at the venue to find it closed.

I have no idea what is the right thing to do. I expect they took police advice but really I have no idea on such emotional and upsetting issues regarding clubs and parties.

I agree. We only made the decision to go that evening. We sent a message to say we were coming but, essentially, just turned up.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Oh my god that's awful, I haven't read the report yet but will after this post.

But when I first went to Radlett someone fell into the pool there fully dressed. The covering that goes over the pool was folded up near the edge of the deep end obscuring the edge of the water and they stood on it and fell in. If you aren't expecting water and the shock of it is dangerous. Luckily there were a few in the pool and we helped her out.

I find it incredulous that the party continued, surely an ambulance would have been called etc.

Terrible thing to have happened.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I've just read others comments and see that it happened on the Friday evening.

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By *icketysplitsWoman over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Oh my god that's awful, I haven't read the report yet but will after this post.

I find it incredulous that the party continued, surely an ambulance would have been called etc.

Terrible thing to have happened.

I assume the Friday party was disturbed but those of us at the Saturday party were blissfully unaware anything had happened the night before.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Just read it .very sad indeed

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By *inaTitzTV/TS over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

People can die anywhere. It's just bad luck to die at a swinging club or a dogging site.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Front page of the Sun

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"People can die anywhere. It's just bad luck to die at a swinging club or a dogging site. "

Absolutely ... A tragic accident that coukd have happened anywhere

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Coincidence that it was featured on that documentary last week, oaps behaving badly or whatever it was called

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

What kind of sick people attended the party. Puts you off meeting with Sicko's like that

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"What kind of sick people attended the party. Puts you off meeting with Sicko's like that

I don't understand what you mean.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"What kind of sick people attended the party. Puts you off meeting with Sicko's like that

They didn't know about it till it was in the news so you can hardly comment

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By *icketysplitsWoman over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"What kind of sick people attended the party. Puts you off meeting with Sicko's like that

Those attending on Friday didn't go to a party to watch someone die. Those of us at the Saturday party didn't know anyone had died. So, unless you mean it's sick to go to any party I really don't see what you are saying.

As one of the Sicko's I'm really happy to tell you that you won't ever need to meet me.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It's already been stated that the people there didn't know.

Taking into the old showbiz adage "the show must go on" what would be an appropriate length of time before the reopened?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago
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"What kind of sick people attended the party. Puts you off meeting with Sicko's like that

Go back to the start of the thread and read it all the way through

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By *ath_Neil_bifunCouple over a year ago

near cardiff

"What kind of sick people attended the party. Puts you off meeting with Sicko's like that

Lol...I'm sure they were all fucking over the dead body!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"What kind of sick people attended the party. Puts you off meeting with Sicko's like that

What a very peculiar thing to say

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
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East Sussex

The most disrespectful thing about this is the headline I've just seen in The Sun.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"What kind of sick people attended the party. Puts you off meeting with Sicko's like that

What do you mean by 'sickos like that' - like what exactly....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

FFS people I was there! It happened on the Friday at approx 12.30am the whole party came to a stop! Some party goers fled due to the police coming! It was a total accident. He was very d*unk and possibly on drugs. He jumped in the pool and couldn't swim or he could have banged his head amd drowned. My partner aswell as 4 others tried CPR on him. Richard and Janet and good people. The police took full statements and details, and the result from the hospital was he passed and it was An ACCIDENT!!! Have some respect.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago
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I can't see anyone showing a lack of respect except one odd comment

Im sorry that you were involved with it as it must have been awful but you also can't make assumptions about drugs or alcohol as that also disrespectful

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"FFS people I was there! It happened on the Friday at approx 12.30am the whole party came to a stop! Some party goers fled due to the police coming! It was a total accident. He was very d*unk and possibly on drugs. He jumped in the pool and couldn't swim or he could have banged his head amd drowned. My partner aswell as 4 others tried CPR on him. Richard and Janet and good people. The police took full statements and details, and the result from the hospital was he passed and it was An ACCIDENT!!! Have some respect."

In my opinion the only people being disrespectful here are the owners of Radletts by pretending like nothing had happened and continuing with their party the following day!

That man's family not only have to deal with the fact he's died suddenly and tragically but find out that it was at a swingers party that they probably knew nothing about

And the owners couldn't just show any ounce of respect by closing for just one night...it would have been the decent thing to do.

It's certainly put me off going again, and quite a number of others too based on the conversations I've been having with my friends!

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By *isscheekychopsWoman over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

Let's not jump to conclusions about drugs and alcohol. A post mortum is going to be carried out and that will probably highlight the cause of death.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I can't see anyone showing a lack of respect except one odd comment

Im sorry that you were involved with it as it must have been awful but you also can't make assumptions about drugs or alcohol as that also disrespectful "

No ones making assumptions. The people there including me, know wat we saw! We had to tell the police everything ;( it's very sad and it's effected everyone involved. God bless him and his family

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Just had a quick Google and nothing came up.

What did come up was the club re_iew for radlett.

Many re_iews with people's face as their profile pic all for the public to see.

I will look some more. This is a terrible thing to have happened. I understand how you feel glitter.

Your googling is rubbish then I found half a dozen reports saying about it!

It does seem odd that you didn't know about it. I'm guessing they kept IT as quiet as poss as not to upset the other guests x"

I saw it on mail online.

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By *iewMan over a year ago
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Angus & Findhorn

Very sad

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It's tragic, it happens and I feel for his family and friends as well as those there.

It appears that the club and all involved delt with it in the appropriate way.

But lets face it if the club had closed for the night on Saturday someone would have started a thread bemoaning that they had had their plans spoiled, wasted money and wanted a refund for their outlay as it's done and stopping the party won't bring him back

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By *punkloverCouple over a year ago

hatfield

Just an awful thing to happen, i was in Costa this morning and it is on the front page of the sun paper, someone in there reading it had the usual opinions on swinging

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By *airy_HettyWoman over a year ago

Greater London

Sad accident but at least the person died having fun, on the plus side. Hopefully it was quick for them.

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By *ouble CCouple over a year ago

Gran Canaria

We were there Saturday night too and a lady on here told us a rumour about someone dying but I just assumed it was rumours. Spoke to one of the party organisers who confirmed it happened. Health and Safety ppl and the police agreed the party cud continue if the pool was closed OR cancel the party and try to get hold of 100 odd ppl to tell them. Damned if ya do and damned if ya don't. I didn't tell anyone at the party, except my partner, as I didn't want to out a downer on ppl's night.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I can't see anyone showing a lack of respect except one odd comment

Im sorry that you were involved with it as it must have been awful but you also can't make assumptions about drugs or alcohol as that also disrespectful

No ones making assumptions. The people there including me, know wat we saw! We had to tell the police everything ;( it's very sad and it's effected everyone involved. God bless him and his family

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I was there Friday when this happened and was one of the people who tried to save him. He was very d*unk when I had seen him earlier in the night and I do not know how he ended up in the pool but we tried our best but it wasn't enough. The party stopped and many fled as posted before. But it was an accident and a tragedy. It was a difficult experience but I would do the same again to help anyone. I've not read the papers as of yet so I have no idea what lies have been said.

I believe the private hire Saturday night went ahead but no pool or hot tubs were available.

I know Richard did his best as did all of us that tried in vain to save him.

It was a hard night to deal with. I feel for his family and Janet and Richard. A tragic loss.

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By *ouble CCouple over a year ago

Gran Canaria

Amen sista! Preach! Xx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago
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"I was there Friday when this happened and was one of the people who tried to save him. He was very d*unk when I had seen him earlier in the night and I do not know how he ended up in the pool but we tried our best but it wasn't enough. The party stopped and many fled as posted before. But it was an accident and a tragedy. It was a difficult experience but I would do the same again to help anyone. I've not read the papers as of yet so I have no idea what lies have been said.

I believe the private hire Saturday night went ahead but no pool or hot tubs were available.

I know Richard did his best as did all of us that tried in vain to save him.

It was a hard night to deal with. I feel for his family and Janet and Richard. A tragic loss.

Respect to you for trying your very best x

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By *ere-for-my-convenienceWoman over a year ago

West Midlands

It's called damage limitation

Bad taste though to remain open that evening

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago
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Amen sista! Preach! Xx "

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

In my opinion the only people being disrespectful here are the owners of Radletts by pretending like nothing had happened and continuing with their party the following day!

That man's family not only have to deal with the fact he's died suddenly and tragically but find out that it was at a swingers party that they probably knew nothing about

And the owners couldn't just show any ounce of respect by closing for just one night...it would have been the decent thing to do.

It's certainly put me off going again, and quite a number of others too based on the conversations I've been having with my friends! "

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By *isscheekychopsWoman over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

I believe the private hire Saturday night went ahead but no pool or hot tubs were available.

I know Richard did his best as did all of us that tried in vain to save him.

It was a hard night to deal with. I feel for his family and Janet and Richard. A tragic loss.

You did your best in this situation. Horrible ordeal to go through.

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By *ittle Pocket PerveWoman over a year ago

Portsmouth

Sad news...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It's called damage limitation

Bad taste though to remain open that evening "

The police approved the other party as it had up to 100 guests and asked if the pool remained closed for that night. This is why the party went ahead.

I can see both sides and yes respect in closing would have been my choice but you also have no way of contacting 100 people the same day especially if people have traveled down.

As I Said before its. Horrible tragedy.

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By *litterbabe OP Woman over a year ago

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I believe the private hire Saturday night went ahead but no pool or hot tubs were available.

I know Richard did his best as did all of us that tried in vain to save him.

It was a hard night to deal with. I feel for his family and Janet and Richard. A tragic loss.

Well done to all of you for trying your best.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It's called damage limitation

Bad taste though to remain open that evening "

It doesn't make them look good.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

In my opinion the only people being disrespectful here are the owners of Radletts by pretending like nothing had happened and continuing with their party the following day!

I rarely ever go to clubs (if ever) but totally agree with this.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Sounds like an awful tragedy! Perhaps preventable in the future by having a lifeguard? Alcohol fuelled people and a pool are obviously a potentially dangerous combination. I would think a lifeguard at all larger parties with pools would be a sensible idea. Xx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

How sad... R.I.P.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

After a tragedy like that the last thing the police would want would be 100 irate people on the streets causing a breach of the peace.

Different of course if there was suspicion of foul play, then the police would no doubt want to keep everyone close to inter_iew.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I don't see what the benefit of closing for one night would be other than to draw more attention to the fact.

I reckon that for the family and all involved the less attention the better as it would allow them to deal with it privately.

If they had mentioned the accident then they could well find people turning up to look in the same way you get people slowing down at motorway accidents.

Any death is a tragedy but not all death requires future events to be shut down unless there is a genuine health and safety risk.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Sounds a little insensitive. Is it run as a business or hobby?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

its a business, someone sadly dies on the tube or the motorway or when your on a cruise they will sort it out and carry on..

Sat will be a big night for the owners..

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By *lubPartyPeepsCouple over a year ago

London

We see the headline by the Sun has been handled with all the same sensitivity and accuracy that they gave the Hillsborough Football Disaster.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"We see the headline by the Sun has been handled with all the same sensitivity and accuracy that they gave the Hillsborough Football Disaster.

The Scum.

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By *lubPartyPeepsCouple over a year ago

London

Yup. Couldn't have put it better.

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By *ere-for-my-convenienceWoman over a year ago

West Midlands

I saw the programme filmed there recently

Am I correct in assuming that there's a huge amount of people shall we say

Over a certain age

Top heavy with geriatrics

Apologies if I'm incorrect

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By *litterbabe OP Woman over a year ago

hiding from cock pics.

"I saw the programme filmed there recently

Am I correct in assuming that there's a huge amount of people shall we say

Over a certain age

Top heavy with geriatrics

Apologies if I'm incorrect "

No..I recon I was one of the oldest there sat.

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By *reammypussyWoman over a year ago

Perran

"Just had a quick Google and nothing came up.

What did come up was the club re_iew for radlett.

Many re_iews with people's face as their profile pic all for the public to see.

I will look some more. This is a terrible thing to have happened. I understand how you feel glitter.

Your googling is rubbish then I found half a dozen reports saying about it!

It does seem odd that you didn't know about it. I'm guessing they kept IT as quiet as poss as not to upset the other guests x

Yes I found the reports. Sounds terrible. Although it seems strange that if it had happened no one else knew about it. The party would have been stopped yes?"

Surely everyone would have to give a statement. ?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago
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"I saw the programme filmed there recently

Am I correct in assuming that there's a huge amount of people shall we say

Over a certain age

Top heavy with geriatrics

Apologies if I'm incorrect "

They run many different events that cater for all tastes like a majority of clubs do

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It's called damage limitation

Bad taste though to remain open that evening "

why is it bad taste? The police and the other authorities had done all the investigating and enquiries they needed to do, it was up to the organisers whether they stayed open or not.

Sorry if this offends anyone, just don't know why its in bad taste to close

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Sounds like an awful tragedy! Perhaps preventable in the future by having a lifeguard? Alcohol fuelled people and a pool are obviously a potentially dangerous combination. I would think a lifeguard at all larger parties with pools would be a sensible idea. Xx"

I think hiring a lifeguard is the way to go! I think the same should go for any swingers club that as pool, like infusions in blackpool etc

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

How terribly sad

Thoughts are with everyone involved and may that man rest in peace

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The benefit of closing even if just for one night is to be respectful of the circumstances and the persons relatives.

It may have been difficult to tell all the guests they had to cancel the party but by no means impossible. They wouldn't even need to tell them what had happened, just a blanket "due to unforeseen circumstances"!

Some people may have been annoyed or irritated (which personally I think would be wrong and selfish once they knew the reasons) but I think the owners have just made themselves look insensitive and more interested in their business rather than having a sense of decency.

I personally think it's a disgrace and if I'd been at the party on Saturday completely oblivious to what had happened there less than 24 hours before I'd feel physically sick once I found out!

Radletts have been on a couple of recent T.V shows trying to promote the venue and the swinging scene as a whole.

Of course no one could have predicted or necessarily prevented what happened and it appears to be a very tragic accident however the actions of the owners afterwards I think will completely undo everything that they were trying to achieve by being a part of those shows.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

A very sad tragedy.

Owners damned if they do damned if they don't. They took the professional decision, I won't criticise them for that.

Thoughts to the family of the deceased.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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I would think health and safety will be looking at all that . Drink and pools and hot tubs there is a danger .

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

People say they did the right thing and it was a "business decision".

Well..

Their business acumen fucking SUCKS.

If they had closed the club that weekend they'd have been seen as rockstars and "very cool people".

Business would have been coming to them in spades.

But instead you have 3 sets of people.

Those who have ZERO compassion and "how date they shut I want to have sex".

Those that say "greedy insensitive owners"

And those who are indifferent.

If they had closed they'd have been rockstars.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"People say they did the right thing and it was a "business decision".

Well..

Their business acumen fucking SUCKS.

If they had closed the club that weekend they'd have been seen as rockstars and "very cool people".

Business would have been coming to them in spades.

But instead you have 3 sets of people.

Those who have ZERO compassion and "how date they shut I want to have sex".

Those that say "greedy insensitive owners"

And those who are indifferent.

If they had closed they'd have been rockstars.

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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O o O oo

I am in the camp of they are insensitive to not shut it. Surely they have contact details of the people attending.

I know the world doesn't end when someone dies normally but it just looks insensitive to me.

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By *onyneMan over a year ago

Newcastle

The sun headline was disgusting, as per usual, just as you would expect

Respect to the deceased and family is due.

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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O o O oo

I can only imagine

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By *allipygousMan over a year ago

Leicester

I must be totally insensitive because I can't see what all the fuss is about.

An unfortunate man (presumably) has a heart attack and dies in a swimming pool. How is that tragic?

I am empathetic towards his family and friends whose grief at the loss of a loved one may well be tainted by the well publicised circumstances of his death.

If you heard someone you didn't even know had a heart attack and died the previous evening at a theater, cinema, pub, snooker hall, palates class or any other public place you go to to enjoy yourself, would you cancel your planned visit because of that death? Or even expect the establishment holding the event to close? I think the honest answers would be no, you wouldn't.

But, he's that special breed of human......a swinger. So all reason goes out the window.

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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O o O oo

But, he's that special breed of human......a swinger. So all reason goes out the window."

Your point was getting across well until this sentance, that spoilt it.

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By *icketysplitsWoman over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"I saw the programme filmed there recently

Am I correct in assuming that there's a huge amount of people shall we say

Over a certain age

Top heavy with geriatrics

Apologies if I'm incorrect

No..I recon I was one of the oldest there sat."

We are older than you. It was a mixed bunch on the dance floor.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I must be totally insensitive because I can't see what all the fuss is about.

An unfortunate man (presumably) has a heart attack and dies in a swimming pool. How is that tragic?

I am empathetic towards his family and friends whose grief at the loss of a loved one may well be tainted by the well publicised circumstances of his death.

But, he's that special breed of human......a swinger. So all reason goes out the window."

I tend to agree with most of what you say. I don't see a problem with them opening the following evening.

I don't understand the last sentence though.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

A couple of questions:

- if you attended on the Friday, did you also attend on the Saturday too?

- if you attended on the Saturday, would you have done so if you knew beforehand?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago
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"A couple of questions:

- if you attended on the Friday, did you also attend on the Saturday too?

- if you attended on the Saturday, would you have done so if you knew beforehand?

The first question doesn't apply to me

Yes to the second question,if I had planned to go on the saturday I still would have

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By *uby0000Woman over a year ago

hertfordshire

very sad for everyone concerned

I do think a lifeguard there would be good and show that the owners care about their clients safety

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By *icketysplitsWoman over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"A couple of questions:

- if you attended on the Friday, did you also attend on the Saturday too?

- if you attended on the Saturday, would you have done so if you knew beforehand?

I wouldn't have gone on Saturday if I had known beforehand. However, I didn't know and had a great time as there was no hint anything had happened other than a lot of hard work to decorate and get a huge spread on the table for the party.

Knowing someone has died won't stop me going again in the future.

I'm not mawkish but I would have felt it was too soon. As I understand it now there was a possibility that Saturday night could have been cancelled but after the police gave the go ahead it was quite late on and they decided with going ahead and letting people enjoy themselves.

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By *allipygousMan over a year ago

Leicester

But, he's that special breed of human......a swinger. So all reason goes out the window.

Your point was getting across well until this sentance, that spoilt it.

I'm still aspiring to compose the perfect post

In answer to Mr and Mrs Polk's query; my point is time and time again in these forums I see comments that imply certain swingers think they're a cut above the rest of non-swinging society, and, if this bloke had died in any of the places suggested in my original post, there wouldn't be a fuss.

But, because he IS a swinger, a big fuss is being unnecessarily made.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think the jokes currently flying around are more insensitive than the owners reopening on the Sat.

Ive heard quite a few already.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

But, he's that special breed of human......a swinger. So all reason goes out the window.

Your point was getting across well until this sentance, that spoilt it.

I'm still aspiring to compose the perfect post

But, because he IS a swinger, a big fuss is being unnecessarily made."

You have a point... if it had been at a swimming pool it wouldn't have made the news.

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By *iewMan over a year ago
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Angus & Findhorn

he died, very sad for his family, life goes on...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

People die all the time at public events. They don't halt a football match after 60 minutes if somebody has a heart attack. Same with concerts at the O2 or other venues.

If somebody dies on a plane and they can move the body without too much inconvenience they will stash it in one of the toilets. If not, they will chuck a blanket over it. Not pleasant for the pax sitting next to them, if they can't move them to another seat.

We all die sometime and although it is a tragedy for our nearest and dearest the world doesn't stop turning. The club made a decision whether that is right or wrong is for your own individual consciences

In six months time, only those close to him will even remember

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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O o O oo

But, he's that special breed of human......a swinger. So all reason goes out the window.

Your point was getting across well until this sentance, that spoilt it.

I'm still aspiring to compose the perfect post

But, because he IS a swinger, a big fuss is being unnecessarily made."

Years ago an ex worked on a Building site, a man died of a heart attack, the site was closed for the rest of the week ( it was a Thursday so wasn't for too long ) but even though not everyone knew the man as they were mainly subbies it was still upsetting for all concerned.

I just assumed it would be upsetting for the party organisers, obviously not.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

But, he's that special breed of human......a swinger. So all reason goes out the window.

Your point was getting across well until this sentance, that spoilt it.

I'm still aspiring to compose the perfect post

But, because he IS a swinger, a big fuss is being unnecessarily made.

I just assumed it would be upsetting for the party organisers, obviously not.

hard as nails some people.

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By *NaughtyCouple over a year ago

St Albans

This is a very sad event and I feel for the people who helped to rescue him, and his family. The reports I heard is that he had a heart attack when I asked a party organiser.

If I died at a party I wouldn't want any following party to be cancelled more allow people to celebrate the lifestyle.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

But, he's that special breed of human......a swinger. So all reason goes out the window.

Your point was getting across well until this sentance, that spoilt it.

I'm still aspiring to compose the perfect post

But, because he IS a swinger, a big fuss is being unnecessarily made."

I agree with all of what you said then.

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By *indys loverCouple over a year ago

Stratford on avon

im of the opinion that life goes on ,,,, im sure the deceased mans family would of preferred it that not to much fuss was made so that they wouldnt of had the newspaper men knocking on their doors but allas with all the furore that has happened it seems that his funeral will now be very well attended for all the wrong reasons

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don't see what the benefit of closing for one night would be other than to draw more attention to the fact.

I reckon that for the family and all involved the less attention the better as it would allow them to deal with it privately.

If they had mentioned the accident then they could well find people turning up to look in the same way you get people slowing down at motorway accidents.

Any death is a tragedy but not all death requires future events to be shut down unless there is a genuine health and safety risk."

Think I agree with this - especially the point about causing the least fuss / distress to the family from all the publicity.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Just read it on bbc news......tragic 1

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By *isexmistressWoman over a year ago

Prestwich

Question for all those upset the whole weekend wasnt cancelled and thus upsetting the plans of everyone else attending who travel,arranged sitter,booked hotal accom etc etc etc///

Do we expect every hotel that experiences this to boot everyone out and close up until after its sorted?

Id like to think;he went out at a swingers party( better than how many of us will bow out i suspect)

and

How brilliant of the hosts to be able to carry on without upsetting everyone..THATS professional..

Imagine, 200 people, all moaning or cpmplaining about;

The party carrying on

about the party being cancelled..

If no one knew, then no one was upset ..until after

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By *iewMan over a year ago
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Angus & Findhorn

"Question for all those upset the whole weekend wasnt cancelled and thus upsetting the plans of everyone else attending who travel,arranged sitter,booked hotal accom etc etc etc///

Do we expect every hotel that experiences this to boot everyone out and close up until after its sorted?

Id like to think;he went out at a swingers party( better than how many of us will bow out i suspect)

and

How brilliant of the hosts to be able to carry on without upsetting everyone..THATS professional..

Imagine, 200 people, all moaning or cpmplaining about;

The party carrying on

about the party being cancelled..

If no one knew, then no one was upset ..until after

I have not commented whether it should have gone on or not, but life goes on for others.

but brilliant, not so sure... they will have considered their bottom line first I would imagine.

but granted, gutsy to put aside what must have been upsetting.

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By *roy9Man over a year ago

London

Having dived in and pulled the man out, then assisted others trying to revive him, calling the emergency services, tell everyone at the Friday night party what had happened and dealing with the police, the newspapers and the ongoing enquires from the authorities including any inquest.... I think it is impossible that the party organisers were not upset by this unfortunate death. Their very proximity and efforts to save him for me make that a given. Lets please debate this subject with sensitivity all round. I know the organisers of the Friday party slightly... I have not spoken to them about these events but they are decent people who put in a lot of effort to allow others to have fun. This is not a normal swingers club but a private home in which they live. The Saturday party which had a theme of a Mad Hatters Theme party was organised by another couple but held at the house. I did talk to that couple but before I knew of the death. They are also a throughly decent couple who put a lot of work into making the party work well. I do know that they were unsure if it would go ahead until about midday on the Saturday.

What are the rights and wrongs of holding the Saturday party.... I don't know... I don't like to be judgmental but I do know both couples involved are decent caring people. If there is something that we as an adult community can do, its to discourage people at adult clubs and parties drinking to excess and take drugs. My sympathies to the deceased's friends and family.

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By *ouble CCouple over a year ago

Gran Canaria

"Having dived in and pulled the man out, then assisted others trying to revive him, calling the emergency services, tell everyone at the Friday night party what had happened and dealing with the police, the newspapers and the ongoing enquires from the authorities including any inquest.... I think it is impossible that the party organisers were not upset by this unfortunate death. Their very proximity and efforts to save him for me make that a given. Lets please debate this subject with sensitivity all round. I know the organisers of the Friday party slightly... I have not spoken to them about these events but they are decent people who put in a lot of effort to allow others to have fun. This is not a normal swingers club but a private home in which they live. The Saturday party which had a theme of a Mad Hatters Theme party was organised by another couple but held at the house. I did talk to that couple but before I knew of the death. They are also a throughly decent couple who put a lot of work into making the party work well. I do know that they were unsure if it would go ahead until about midday on the Saturday.

Well said. 100% agree. Xx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

rip to the brother who died. people shouldnt assume he took drugs, im a trained pool lifeguard n all pools should have risk assesments, nop's and eap's in place.The very least they should have panic alarms, buoyancy aids and cameras. Im guessing this pool had non of that. these private members clubs should start taking responsibility as they are busier than most profit making businesses n r dam site more risky when they permit alcohol on premices.

sadly this wont be the last death as this and michael barrymores is one of many.

I would lifeguard at a swingers club if they gave me free entry the following night..

anyway very sad news

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"rip to the brother who died. people shouldnt assume he took drugs, im a trained pool lifeguard n all pools should have risk assesments, nop's and eap's in place.The very least they should have panic alarms, buoyancy aids and cameras. Im guessing this pool had non of that. these private members clubs should start taking responsibility as they are busier than most profit making businesses n r dam site more risky when they permit alcohol on premices.

sadly this wont be the last death as this and michael barrymores is one of many.

I would lifeguard at a swingers club if they gave me free entry the following night..

anyway very sad news"

excuse me?! You think you should be given free entry?! You should have to pay like everyone else!

If a club hires a stripper, he has to pay entry if he wants to stay, just like everyone else!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

sadly this wont be the last death as this and michael barrymores is one of many.

I would lifeguard at a swingers club if they gave me free entry the following night..

anyway very sad news

excuse me?! You think you should be given free entry?! You should have to pay like everyone else!

If a club hires a stripper, he has to pay entry if he wants to stay, just like everyone else!"

Yes, but then he would have been paid to turn up, this guy was offering to do it for free.

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By *isscheekychopsWoman over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

How do we even know he was taking drugs though? Sorry I haven't read the whole thread but was he even witnessed taking drugs?

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By *icketysplitsWoman over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"How do we even know he was taking drugs though? Sorry I haven't read the whole thread but was he even witnessed taking drugs? "

We don't know if he was taking drugs. There has been mention of alcohol, here and elsewhere.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

sadly this wont be the last death as this and michael barrymores is one of many.

I would lifeguard at a swingers club if they gave me free entry the following night..

anyway very sad news

excuse me?! You think you should be given free entry?! You should have to pay like everyone else!

If a club hires a stripper, he has to pay entry if he wants to stay, just like everyone else!

Yes, but then he would have been paid to turn up, this guy was offering to do it for free."

doesn't matter! He should still pay to get entrance like everyone else!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago
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"How do we even know he was taking drugs though? Sorry I haven't read the whole thread but was he even witnessed taking drugs? "

Absolute speculation and not a mention of drugs in any of the media reports at all that ive seen today

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By *isscheekychopsWoman over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"How do we even know he was taking drugs though? Sorry I haven't read the whole thread but was he even witnessed taking drugs?

Absolute speculation and not a mention of drugs in any of the media reports at all that ive seen today

Then why is everyone saying he was d*unk and taking drugs...he was 35 there could be a number of reasons why he died if they are saying he died of a heart attack he may of died from adult what's it name when a young person suffers a heart attack but to keep on saying he was on drugs and d*unk is not very considerate of the family espically when a cause of death has not been confirmed

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By *isscheekychopsWoman over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"How do we even know he was taking drugs though? Sorry I haven't read the whole thread but was he even witnessed taking drugs?

Absolute speculation and not a mention of drugs in any of the media reports at all that ive seen today

Sorry not everyone but some

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

sadly this wont be the last death as this and michael barrymores is one of many.

I would lifeguard at a swingers club if they gave me free entry the following night..

anyway very sad news

excuse me?! You think you should be given free entry?! You should have to pay like everyone else!

If a club hires a stripper, he has to pay entry if he wants to stay, just like everyone else!

Yes, but then he would have been paid to turn up, this guy was offering to do it for free.

doesn't matter! He should still pay to get entrance like everyone else!"

Then he should charge his hourly rate for performing his duties, I'm sure that would be more than the entry fee.

Any specific reason why you object to entry in return for services?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago
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"How do we even know he was taking drugs though? Sorry I haven't read the whole thread but was he even witnessed taking drugs?

Absolute speculation and not a mention of drugs in any of the media reports at all that ive seen today

I agree with you,I said it was disrespectful to assume he had taken drugs ages ago up in the thread

Also damaging to the party organisers reputation when there is no proof

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By *roy9Man over a year ago

London

"How do we even know he was taking drugs though? Sorry I haven't read the whole thread but was he even witnessed taking drugs?

Absolute speculation and not a mention of drugs in any of the media reports at all that ive seen today

This is like Chinese whispers. I'm not saying he took drugs. I am saying that as an adult community what we can do to help avoid tragic events like this, is to help discourage people drinking to excess or taking drugs at an adult club or party. I have seen both, fortunately very occasionally at one or two clubs in the past.

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By *isexmistressWoman over a year ago

Prestwich

"Question for all those upset the whole weekend wasnt cancelled and thus upsetting the plans of everyone else attending who travel,arranged sitter,booked hotal accom etc etc etc///

Do we expect every hotel that experiences this to boot everyone out and close up until after its sorted?

Id like to think;he went out at a swingers party( better than how many of us will bow out i suspect)

and

How brilliant of the hosts to be able to carry on without upsetting everyone..THATS professional..

Imagine, 200 people, all moaning or cpmplaining about;

The party carrying on

about the party being cancelled..

If no one knew, then no one was upset ..until after

I have not commented whether it should have gone on or not, but life goes on for others.

but brilliant, not so sure... they will have considered their bottom line first I would imagine.

but granted, gutsy to put aside what must have been upsetting."

Change brilliant to commendable..

Having known Janet for some years now I can tell you she would have been very upset...but she wouldnt let however upset she was on to anyone else.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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because he's wanting it for free! Why should he get free entry?! If a club hired a stripper and he wanted to free entry, he'd be told to pay, doesn't matter whether the stripper got paid for his services or not, its still the same

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By *isscheekychopsWoman over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"How do we even know he was taking drugs though? Sorry I haven't read the whole thread but was he even witnessed taking drugs?

Absolute speculation and not a mention of drugs in any of the media reports at all that ive seen today

I agree with you,I said it was disrespectful to assume he had taken drugs ages ago up in the thread

Also damaging to the party organisers reputation when there is no proof"

I saw your post then had to get back to work so didn't see much after that I was just wondering if there was any evidence. I think until the cause of death is known we should not fabricate on what happen or assume he was d*unk and on drugs

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"[Removed by poster at 30/03/15 19:24:46]

He's not wanting free entry, he is forgoing payment for his nights work in return for entry the next day.

(It is just the same as if he was paid one night and gave it back the next just without any money changing hands)

Do people lose all logic when the forums get heated?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"[Removed by poster at 30/03/15 19:24:46]

He's not wanting free entry, he is forgoing payment for his nights work in return for entry the next day.

(It is just the same as if he was paid one night and gave it back the next just without any money changing hands)

Do people lose all logic when the forums get heated?"

Yes. Yes they do. You must be new here

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think until the cause of death is known we should not fabricate on what happen or assume he was d*unk and on drugs "

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

sadly this wont be the last death as this and michael barrymores is one of many.

I would lifeguard at a swingers club if they gave me free entry the following night..

anyway very sad news"

And you're the guy that's put an avoid re_iew up, yet you haven't even been to the place!? You're "assuming" wrong about the venue! And I'm a bit disgusted by your comments and by your re_iew that was uncalled for!

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By *ouise_essexWoman over a year ago

basildon

This is very sad news... some of us will know this guy who lost his life, but ALL of us know he was part of our swinging scene, we should ALL be paying our respects to him and his family....

What I would like to know when the pool was open to the public why was the no life guard who should be supervising this area.

I used to swim for my county and by law we was never allowed to enter the water without a life guard present, if the law states as it was a private propety, I think the law should make owners of pools who lease to public to hire life guards, if there was one there this tragic accident would not of happened.

I do believe the owner was given the choice of closing the pool or shutting for saturday night, but unable to contact all guest so the pool was closed.

I think instead of this becoming a debate , lets have a little thought for his family, after all he was one of us, not just a stranger...

R.I.P

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"[Removed by poster at 30/03/15 19:24:46]

He's not wanting free entry, he is forgoing payment for his nights work in return for entry the next day.

(It is just the same as if he was paid one night and gave it back the next just without any money changing hands)

Do people lose all logic when the forums get heated?"

he said he would lifeguard events if he got free entry for the night after, um no, he should pay like everyone else.

Doesn't matter what service he's providing and whether he gets paid or not, he should still pay

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By *iewMan over a year ago
Forum Mod

Angus & Findhorn

"[Removed by poster at 30/03/15 19:24:46]

Do people lose all logic when the forums get heated?"

The very fact that you posed that question means you must be new

Welcome

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By *isscheekychopsWoman over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

sadly this wont be the last death as this and michael barrymores is one of many.

I would lifeguard at a swingers club if they gave me free entry the following night..

anyway very sad news

Why would someone put a re_iew up in regards to a place they have not even been too...that's s bit strange and not really fair on the club in question.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"[Removed by poster at 30/03/15 19:24:46]

He's not wanting free entry, he is forgoing payment for his nights work in return for entry the next day.

(It is just the same as if he was paid one night and gave it back the next just without any money changing hands)

Do people lose all logic when the forums get heated?

he said he would lifeguard events if he got free entry for the night after, um no, he should pay like everyone else.

Doesn't matter what service he's providing and whether he gets paid or not, he should still pay"

I'll remind work of that tomorrow then, it's supposed to be payday but apparently I shouldn't expect any kind of remuneration for doing a job.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"[Removed by poster at 30/03/15 19:24:46]

He's not wanting free entry, he is forgoing payment for his nights work in return for entry the next day.

(It is just the same as if he was paid one night and gave it back the next just without any money changing hands)

Do people lose all logic when the forums get heated?

he said he would lifeguard events if he got free entry for the night after, um no, he should pay like everyone else.

Doesn't matter what service he's providing and whether he gets paid or not, he should still pay

I'll remind work of that tomorrow then, it's supposed to be payday but apparently I shouldn't expect any kind of remuneration for doing a job. "

I mean't in terms of wanting free entry to a club

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"[Removed by poster at 30/03/15 19:24:46]

Do people lose all logic when the forums get heated?

The very fact that you posed that question means you must be new

Welcome

I'm not really new, just bored.

Sometimes I just like to sit and watch but other times I just can't control the urge to take someone's ridiculous comment and poke it full of holes.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"[Removed by poster at 30/03/15 19:24:46]

He's not wanting free entry, he is forgoing payment for his nights work in return for entry the next day.

(It is just the same as if he was paid one night and gave it back the next just without any money changing hands)

Do people lose all logic when the forums get heated?

he said he would lifeguard events if he got free entry for the night after, um no, he should pay like everyone else.

Doesn't matter what service he's providing and whether he gets paid or not, he should still pay

I'll remind work of that tomorrow then, it's supposed to be payday but apparently I shouldn't expect any kind of remuneration for doing a job.

I mean't in terms of wanting free entry to a club"

I'm pretty sure fast food places give employees free food and cinemas let them watch free films. Just a shame banks don't let them have free money.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

sadly this wont be the last death as this and michael barrymores is one of many.

I would lifeguard at a swingers club if they gave me free entry the following night..

anyway very sad news

Why would someone put a re_iew up in regards to a place they have not even been too...that's s bit strange and not really fair on the club in question. "

Not fair when they've got enough going on as it is with bad press from the scum, mirror etc..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Maybe some people should stop and think about the trauma Richard, Janet and the others guests who were there to witness the death, are going through! We know Janet and Richard personally, and we know they are going through an extremely tough time. Maybe in time they will wonder if having the party the day after was the right / wrong thing to do, but it's done! I just don't think some people who have slated them have been fair.

Like other people have stated, anyone can die anywhere.. If there's a death on a motorway, the motorway re-opens as soon as the crash is cleared.. The decision to go ahead with the party was obviously not made lightly. After advice from the police to "go ahead with the party as there was no suspicious circumstances", Radlett / Playground parties were dammed if they do and dammed if they don't. The horrible incident has caused an awful ripple effect and so many people have been effected whether it be directly or indirectly.

RIP to the man and I hope the speculation ceases soon

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"[Removed by poster at 30/03/15 19:24:46]

He's not wanting free entry, he is forgoing payment for his nights work in return for entry the next day.

(It is just the same as if he was paid one night and gave it back the next just without any money changing hands)

Do people lose all logic when the forums get heated?

he said he would lifeguard events if he got free entry for the night after, um no, he should pay like everyone else.

Doesn't matter what service he's providing and whether he gets paid or not, he should still pay

I'll remind work of that tomorrow then, it's supposed to be payday but apparently I shouldn't expect any kind of remuneration for doing a job.

I mean't in terms of wanting free entry to a club

I'm pretty sure fast food places give employees free food and cinemas let them watch free films. Just a shame banks don't let them have free money."

I know people who work at fast food places and they still pay for their food. One bloke got told off by his line manager for taking food that wasn't free so no they don't get free food, they still have to pay

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By *isscheekychopsWoman over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

Why are people arguing about entrance fee...not really the thread to do so...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"[Removed by poster at 30/03/15 19:24:46]

He's not wanting free entry, he is forgoing payment for his nights work in return for entry the next day.

(It is just the same as if he was paid one night and gave it back the next just without any money changing hands)

Do people lose all logic when the forums get heated?

he said he would lifeguard events if he got free entry for the night after, um no, he should pay like everyone else.

Doesn't matter what service he's providing and whether he gets paid or not, he should still pay

I'll remind work of that tomorrow then, it's supposed to be payday but apparently I shouldn't expect any kind of remuneration for doing a job.

I mean't in terms of wanting free entry to a club

I'm pretty sure fast food places give employees free food and cinemas let them watch free films. Just a shame banks don't let them have free money.

I think you misunderstood, they have an allowance of food, if they want more than that they have to pay. A friend who has a friend who once went to a fast food place told me that.

I'm very sorry, I don't mean to antagonise but your response to the poor guy offering to be a life guard for free was so vicious.

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By *allipygousMan over a year ago

Leicester

"[Removed by poster at 30/03/15 19:24:46]

He's not wanting free entry, he is forgoing payment for his nights work in return for entry the next day.

(It is just the same as if he was paid one night and gave it back the next just without any money changing hands)

Do people lose all logic when the forums get heated?

he said he would lifeguard events if he got free entry for the night after, um no, he should pay like everyone else.

Doesn't matter what service he's providing and whether he gets paid or not, he should still pay

I'll remind work of that tomorrow then, it's supposed to be payday but apparently I shouldn't expect any kind of remuneration for doing a job.

I mean't in terms of wanting free entry to a club"

You'd be in big trouble if money all of a sudden lost its value and we had to return to bartering.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"[Removed by poster at 30/03/15 19:24:46]

He's not wanting free entry, he is forgoing payment for his nights work in return for entry the next day.

(It is just the same as if he was paid one night and gave it back the next just without any money changing hands)

Do people lose all logic when the forums get heated?

he said he would lifeguard events if he got free entry for the night after, um no, he should pay like everyone else.

Doesn't matter what service he's providing and whether he gets paid or not, he should still pay

I'll remind work of that tomorrow then, it's supposed to be payday but apparently I shouldn't expect any kind of remuneration for doing a job.

I mean't in terms of wanting free entry to a club

I'm pretty sure fast food places give employees free food and cinemas let them watch free films. Just a shame banks don't let them have free money.

I think you misunderstood, they have an allowance of food, if they want more than that they have to pay. A friend who has a friend who once went to a fast food place told me that.

I'm very sorry, I don't mean to antagonise but your response to the poor guy offering to be a life guard for free was so vicious."

I wasn't being vicious at all, i simply asked why should he get free entry whether he gets paid to lifeguard or not? He should pay like everyone else

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By *isscheekychopsWoman over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

[Removed by poster at 30/03/15 19:51:13]

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Why are people arguing about entrance fee...not really the thread to do so...

coz some idiot said as long as he can lifeguard at the events, he wants free entry for the next night, read up ^

I've read it but come on there is a time and place to have a bloody argument about entrance fee...and this thread is not the place. Someone has died and while he may be a complete stranger to most he is still dead.."

Exactly, I only asked a simple question and people start jumping on my back.

If people wanna debate about this then take it to message or something

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago
Forum Mod

"Why are people arguing about entrance fee...not really the thread to do so...

coz some idiot said as long as he can lifeguard at the events, he wants free entry for the next night, read up ^

Exactly, I only asked a simple question and people start jumping on my back.

If people wanna debate about this then take it to message or something"

Best idea you have had all thread

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Why are people arguing about entrance fee...not really the thread to do so...

coz some idiot said as long as he can lifeguard at the events, he wants free entry for the next night, read up ^

Exactly, I only asked a simple question and people start jumping on my back.

If people wanna debate about this then take it to message or something

Best idea you have had all thread

haha thank you!

I'm not having people antagonising me and debating on a thread of a poor bloke who has lost his life, its not on!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"[Removed by poster at 30/03/15 19:24:46]

He's not wanting free entry, he is forgoing payment for his nights work in return for entry the next day.

(It is just the same as if he was paid one night and gave it back the next just without any money changing hands)

Do people lose all logic when the forums get heated?

he said he would lifeguard events if he got free entry for the night after, um no, he should pay like everyone else.

Doesn't matter what service he's providing and whether he gets paid or not, he should still pay

I'll remind work of that tomorrow then, it's supposed to be payday but apparently I shouldn't expect any kind of remuneration for doing a job.

I mean't in terms of wanting free entry to a club

I'm pretty sure fast food places give employees free food and cinemas let them watch free films. Just a shame banks don't let them have free money.

I think you misunderstood, they have an allowance of food, if they want more than that they have to pay. A friend who has a friend who once went to a fast food place told me that.

I'm very sorry, I don't mean to antagonise but your response to the poor guy offering to be a life guard for free was so vicious.

I wasn't being vicious at all, i simply asked why should he get free entry whether he gets paid to lifeguard or not? He should pay like everyone else"

As a woman do you not receive free or heavily discounted entry to most clubs?

If this guy spent all night keeping you safe would you still want him to pay the full rate single male charge?

If you feel so strongly about equality do you always offer to pay the male entry fee, so you are the same too?

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By *ouise_essexWoman over a year ago

basildon

This is very sad news... some of us will know this guy who lost his life, but ALL of us know he was part of our swinging scene, we should ALL be paying our respects to him and his family....

What I would like to know when the pool was open to the public why was the no life guard who should be supervising this area.

I do believe the owner was given the choice of closing the pool or shutting for saturday night, but unable to contact all guest so the pool was closed.

I think instead of this becoming a debate , lets have a little thought for his family, after all he was one of us, not just a stranger...

R.I.P

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"[Removed by poster at 30/03/15 19:24:46]

He's not wanting free entry, he is forgoing payment for his nights work in return for entry the next day.

(It is just the same as if he was paid one night and gave it back the next just without any money changing hands)

Do people lose all logic when the forums get heated?

he said he would lifeguard events if he got free entry for the night after, um no, he should pay like everyone else.

Doesn't matter what service he's providing and whether he gets paid or not, he should still pay

I'll remind work of that tomorrow then, it's supposed to be payday but apparently I shouldn't expect any kind of remuneration for doing a job.

I mean't in terms of wanting free entry to a club

I'm pretty sure fast food places give employees free food and cinemas let them watch free films. Just a shame banks don't let them have free money.

I think you misunderstood, they have an allowance of food, if they want more than that they have to pay. A friend who has a friend who once went to a fast food place told me that.

I'm very sorry, I don't mean to antagonise but your response to the poor guy offering to be a life guard for free was so vicious.

I wasn't being vicious at all, i simply asked why should he get free entry whether he gets paid to lifeguard or not? He should pay like everyone else

As a woman do you not receive free or heavily discounted entry to most clubs?

If this guy spent all night keeping you safe would you still want him to pay the full rate single male charge?

If you feel so strongly about equality do you always offer to pay the male entry fee, so you are the same too?"

Not the time, nor the place! Take it privately..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

haha it was meant as a joke. most clubs would prefer that as a way of payment, avoids the tax man and would work out cheaper than paying me the minimum wage. 8 hours x 6.50 so work it out!!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"[Removed by poster at 30/03/15 19:24:46]

He's not wanting free entry, he is forgoing payment for his nights work in return for entry the next day.

(It is just the same as if he was paid one night and gave it back the next just without any money changing hands)

Do people lose all logic when the forums get heated?

he said he would lifeguard events if he got free entry for the night after, um no, he should pay like everyone else.

Doesn't matter what service he's providing and whether he gets paid or not, he should still pay

I'll remind work of that tomorrow then, it's supposed to be payday but apparently I shouldn't expect any kind of remuneration for doing a job.

I mean't in terms of wanting free entry to a club

I'm pretty sure fast food places give employees free food and cinemas let them watch free films. Just a shame banks don't let them have free money.

I think you misunderstood, they have an allowance of food, if they want more than that they have to pay. A friend who has a friend who once went to a fast food place told me that.

I'm very sorry, I don't mean to antagonise but your response to the poor guy offering to be a life guard for free was so vicious.

I wasn't being vicious at all, i simply asked why should he get free entry whether he gets paid to lifeguard or not? He should pay like everyone else

As a woman do you not receive free or heavily discounted entry to most clubs?

If this guy spent all night keeping you safe would you still want him to pay the full rate single male charge?

If you feel so strongly about equality do you always offer to pay the male entry fee, so you are the same too?"

yes i would want him to pay full single men prices if he were keeping me safe

I'm ending this, not having this stupid debate on a thread like this.