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"Is there such a thing? Isn't it just a fantastical way of saying having sex? If you're in love do you always make love? Personally I think its all poppycock!" No it isn't a fantastical way of saying having sex, you don't make love every time you have sex with a much loved partner but when you do its on another level entirely, there's an extra dimension to it. You couldn't sustain that level of interaction every time you have sex but it is entirely possible to "make love". | |||
"Is there such a thing? Isn't it just a fantastical way of saying having sex? If you're in love do you always make love? Personally I think its all poppycock! No it isn't a fantastical way of saying having sex, you don't make love every time you have sex with a much loved partner but when you do its on another level entirely, there's an extra dimension to it. You couldn't sustain that level of interaction every time you have sex but it is entirely possible to "make love"." | |||
"Is there such a thing? Isn't it just a fantastical way of saying having sex? If you're in love do you always make love? Personally I think its all poppycock! No it isn't a fantastical way of saying having sex, you don't make love every time you have sex with a much loved partner but when you do its on another level entirely, there's an extra dimension to it. You couldn't sustain that level of interaction every time you have sex but it is entirely possible to "make love"." So what makes it on another level? What do you do that is different? | |||
"Is there such a thing? Isn't it just a fantastical way of saying having sex? If you're in love do you always make love? Personally I think its all poppycock! No it isn't a fantastical way of saying having sex, you don't make love every time you have sex with a much loved partner but when you do its on another level entirely, there's an extra dimension to it. You couldn't sustain that level of interaction every time you have sex but it is entirely possible to "make love". So what makes it on another level? What do you do that is different?" I don't think you do anything... Its just about the emotional attachment to the person your with | |||
"Is there such a thing? Isn't it just a fantastical way of saying having sex? If you're in love do you always make love? Personally I think its all poppycock! No it isn't a fantastical way of saying having sex, you don't make love every time you have sex with a much loved partner but when you do its on another level entirely, there's an extra dimension to it. You couldn't sustain that level of interaction every time you have sex but it is entirely possible to "make love"." Nice to see we can agree on some things | |||
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"Is there such a thing? Isn't it just a fantastical way of saying having sex? If you're in love do you always make love? Personally I think its all poppycock! No it isn't a fantastical way of saying having sex, you don't make love every time you have sex with a much loved partner but when you do its on another level entirely, there's an extra dimension to it. You couldn't sustain that level of interaction every time you have sex but it is entirely possible to "make love". So what makes it on another level? What do you do that is different?" Nothing it isn't physical its emotional. So I suppose the difference is that possibly its one of the times when you are particularly intimate emotionally as well as sexually, I think that analysing it is nigh on impossible | |||
"Is there such a thing? Isn't it just a fantastical way of saying having sex? If you're in love do you always make love? Personally I think its all poppycock! No it isn't a fantastical way of saying having sex, you don't make love every time you have sex with a much loved partner but when you do its on another level entirely, there's an extra dimension to it. You couldn't sustain that level of interaction every time you have sex but it is entirely possible to "make love". Nice to see we can agree on some things " | |||
"Relationships are organic things. They evolve and grow. They go through times of extreme emotional intensity and times where you feel like housemates. Naturally the sex reflects what's going on in the relationship at the time. " Yep! | |||
"Is there such a thing? Isn't it just a fantastical way of saying having sex? If you're in love do you always make love? Personally I think its all poppycock! No it isn't a fantastical way of saying having sex, you don't make love every time you have sex with a much loved partner but when you do its on another level entirely, there's an extra dimension to it. You couldn't sustain that level of interaction every time you have sex but it is entirely possible to "make love"." | |||
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" So what makes it on another level? What do you do that is different?" It's the depth of the emotional connection, the openness, the intimacy - the totally trusting vulnerability to each other. I make love with my partners every time I fall in love, and because I am so unguarded emotionally I can make love 'in the now' sometimes with someone likeminded. I think it takes that openness for someone to do that in a casual scenario. A skillful, sensual lover can make a vague approximation of making love, but only the emotional connection makes it so. | |||
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"I would love someone to look into my eyes as he's making love to me and see how much he loves me. I wasn't allowed eye contact with my husband,says it all about my marriage " I'm sorry to hear that. | |||
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"I would love someone to look into my eyes as he's making love to me and see how much he loves me. I wasn't allowed eye contact with my husband,says it all about my marriage " wow im really shocked! | |||
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"I would love someone to look into my eyes as he's making love to me and see how much he loves me. I wasn't allowed eye contact with my husband,says it all about my marriage wow im really shocked!" Really? There must be a lot of men like him in the world. | |||
"Is there such a thing? Isn't it just a fantastical way of saying having sex? If you're in love do you always make love? Personally I think its all poppycock! No it isn't a fantastical way of saying having sex, you don't make love every time you have sex with a much loved partner but when you do its on another level entirely, there's an extra dimension to it. You couldn't sustain that level of interaction every time you have sex but it is entirely possible to "make love"." | |||
"I would love someone to look into my eyes as he's making love to me and see how much he loves me. I wasn't allowed eye contact with my husband,says it all about my marriage wow im really shocked! Really? There must be a lot of men like him in the world. " but never to have had that intimacy? I feel for you i really do and theres a lot of men who would love to make love to you im certain x | |||
"I would love someone to look into my eyes as he's making love to me and see how much he loves me. I wasn't allowed eye contact with my husband,says it all about my marriage wow im really shocked! Really? There must be a lot of men like him in the world. but never to have had that intimacy? I feel for you i really do and theres a lot of men who would love to make love to you im certain x" You can only make love when you're in love though,so probably not. Lust doesn't count | |||
"I would love someone to look into my eyes as he's making love to me and see how much he loves me. I wasn't allowed eye contact with my husband,says it all about my marriage " so so true..the eyes tells so much | |||
"I would love someone to look into my eyes as he's making love to me and see how much he loves me. I wasn't allowed eye contact with my husband,says it all about my marriage wow im really shocked! Really? There must be a lot of men like him in the world. but never to have had that intimacy? I feel for you i really do and theres a lot of men who would love to make love to you im certain x You can only make love when you're in love though,so probably not. Lust doesn't count " not true! Ive made love to many women and although at the time i love their body and the sensual seduction the tenderness and the passion, i wasnt in love with any of them. | |||
"I would love someone to look into my eyes as he's making love to me and see how much he loves me. I wasn't allowed eye contact with my husband,says it all about my marriage wow im really shocked! Really? There must be a lot of men like him in the world. but never to have had that intimacy? I feel for you i really do and theres a lot of men who would love to make love to you im certain x You can only make love when you're in love though,so probably not. Lust doesn't count not true! Ive made love to many women and although at the time i love their body and the sensual seduction the tenderness and the passion, i wasnt in love with any of them. " So you don't have to be in love to make love? | |||
"Relationships are organic things. They evolve and grow. They go through times of extreme emotional intensity and times where you feel like housemates. Naturally the sex reflects what's going on in the relationship at the time. " Wise woman | |||
"I would love someone to look into my eyes as he's making love to me and see how much he loves me. I wasn't allowed eye contact with my husband,says it all about my marriage wow im really shocked! Really? There must be a lot of men like him in the world. but never to have had that intimacy? I feel for you i really do and theres a lot of men who would love to make love to you im certain x You can only make love when you're in love though,so probably not. Lust doesn't count not true! Ive made love to many women and although at the time i love their body and the sensual seduction the tenderness and the passion, i wasnt in love with any of them. So you don't have to be in love to make love? " I think you do ...at the time. It does all depend on how you define "make love" though. | |||
"I would love someone to look into my eyes as he's making love to me and see how much he loves me. I wasn't allowed eye contact with my husband,says it all about my marriage wow im really shocked! Really? There must be a lot of men like him in the world. but never to have had that intimacy? I feel for you i really do and theres a lot of men who would love to make love to you im certain x You can only make love when you're in love though,so probably not. Lust doesn't count not true! Ive made love to many women and although at the time i love their body and the sensual seduction the tenderness and the passion, i wasnt in love with any of them. So you don't have to be in love to make love? I think you do ...at the time. It does all depend on how you define "make love" though. " I think you do too - even if it could be a little bit of unreality, you need to have that freely exchanged giving and receiving of emotion at the time. | |||
"I would love someone to look into my eyes as he's making love to me and see how much he loves me. I wasn't allowed eye contact with my husband,says it all about my marriage wow im really shocked! Really? There must be a lot of men like him in the world. but never to have had that intimacy? I feel for you i really do and theres a lot of men who would love to make love to you im certain x You can only make love when you're in love though,so probably not. Lust doesn't count not true! Ive made love to many women and although at the time i love their body and the sensual seduction the tenderness and the passion, i wasnt in love with any of them. So you don't have to be in love to make love? I think you do ...at the time. It does all depend on how you define "make love" though. I think you do too - even if it could be a little bit of unreality, you need to have that freely exchanged giving and receiving of emotion at the time." Its an interesting subject and I suspect that peoples answers will be coloured by their life experiences and expectations. | |||
"I would love someone to look into my eyes as he's making love to me and see how much he loves me. I wasn't allowed eye contact with my husband,says it all about my marriage wow im really shocked! Really? There must be a lot of men like him in the world. but never to have had that intimacy? I feel for you i really do and theres a lot of men who would love to make love to you im certain x You can only make love when you're in love though,so probably not. Lust doesn't count not true! Ive made love to many women and although at the time i love their body and the sensual seduction the tenderness and the passion, i wasnt in love with any of them. So you don't have to be in love to make love? I think you do ...at the time. It does all depend on how you define "make love" though. I think you do too - even if it could be a little bit of unreality, you need to have that freely exchanged giving and receiving of emotion at the time. Its an interesting subject and I suspect that peoples answers will be coloured by their life experiences and expectations." When I make love I want to feel the love he feels for me. I've had sensual sex but knowing they don't love me makes it sex,not making love. | |||
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"I've never been in love, and never made love. The closest I have ever been to it is with my current lover, who is very dominant. But last time when we met up, we had a very intense, passionate, close but gentle reconnect sexually before anything else. Absolutely amazing." Hmm, I'd enjoy that enormously too, lol!! But tell me, why do you call him a lover if you are not in love? | |||
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"I've never been in love, and never made love. The closest I have ever been to it is with my current lover, who is very dominant. But last time when we met up, we had a very intense, passionate, close but gentle reconnect sexually before anything else. Absolutely amazing. Hmm, I'd enjoy that enormously too, lol!! But tell me, why do you call him a lover if you are not in love?" Because its the closest definition that works for us both... we are more than Fbs and friends with benefits. And he is more than just my dominant. We hold each other in very high regard, and care for one another deeply. But for one reason or another, neither of us want to be in love. | |||
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"I've never been in love, and never made love. The closest I have ever been to it is with my current lover, who is very dominant. But last time when we met up, we had a very intense, passionate, close but gentle reconnect sexually before anything else. Absolutely amazing. Hmm, I'd enjoy that enormously too, lol!! But tell me, why do you call him a lover if you are not in love? Because its the closest definition that works for us both... we are more than Fbs and friends with benefits. And he is more than just my dominant. We hold each other in very high regard, and care for one another deeply. But for one reason or another, neither of us want to be in love." I can relate to that. The 'high regard' is important too. | |||
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"Is there such a thing? Isn't it just a fantastical way of saying having sex? If you're in love do you always make love? Personally I think its all poppycock! No it isn't a fantastical way of saying having sex, you don't make love every time you have sex with a much loved partner but when you do its on another level entirely, there's an extra dimension to it. You couldn't sustain that level of interaction every time you have sex but it is entirely possible to "make love". Nice to see we can agree on some things " Exactly! You don't set out to "make love". You start at sex and it evolves because your mind is open to any possibility that the next few hours might bring, physically AND emotionally. If the sex you have is linear and prescriptive, it's unlikely you'd get to a place where it felt like making love rather than sex. | |||
"Is there such a thing? Isn't it just a fantastical way of saying having sex? If you're in love do you always make love? Personally I think its all poppycock! No it isn't a fantastical way of saying having sex, you don't make love every time you have sex with a much loved partner but when you do its on another level entirely, there's an extra dimension to it. You couldn't sustain that level of interaction every time you have sex but it is entirely possible to "make love". Nice to see we can agree on some things Exactly! You don't set out to "make love". You start at sex and it evolves because your mind is open to any possibility that the next few hours might bring, physically AND emotionally. If the sex you have is linear and prescriptive, it's unlikely you'd get to a place where it felt like making love rather than sex. " | |||
"Is there such a thing? Isn't it just a fantastical way of saying having sex? If you're in love do you always make love? Personally I think its all poppycock!" If you ever find your soulmate you will then know what making love is. One may be married and enjoy sex with ones husband or wife but that does not compare with the complete immersion one feels with ones soulmate. This is from someone who never believed in love. | |||
"I've never been in love, and never made love. The closest I have ever been to it is with my current lover, who is very dominant. But last time when we met up, we had a very intense, passionate, close but gentle reconnect sexually before anything else. Absolutely amazing. Hmm, I'd enjoy that enormously too, lol!! But tell me, why do you call him a lover if you are not in love? Because its the closest definition that works for us both... we are more than Fbs and friends with benefits. And he is more than just my dominant. We hold each other in very high regard, and care for one another deeply. But for one reason or another, neither of us want to be in love. I can relate to that. The 'high regard' is important too." The high regard is the backbone of our whole relationship. We work in similar fields of work - him in a larger organisation and at a much higher grade than me, but we talk lots about work, life, football, books and music (although we have vastly different tastes) He is also 11 years my senior. If it all continues to develop the way it does, in time, he could be the one I would allow myself to feel more for... but thats a very long way off yet. | |||
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"Is there such a thing? Isn't it just a fantastical way of saying having sex? If you're in love do you always make love? Personally I think its all poppycock!" You're too far away or else I'd show you | |||
" No it isn't a fantastical way of saying having sex, you don't make love every time you have sex with a much loved partner but when you do its on another level entirely, there's an extra dimension to it. You couldn't sustain that level of interaction every time you have sex but it is entirely possible to "make love"." This for me. We often have great sex and regularly make love. It's that extra special something that you just can't describe. | |||
"Is there such a thing? Isn't it just a fantastical way of saying having sex? If you're in love do you always make love? Personally I think its all poppycock! If you ever find your soulmate you will then know what making love is. One may be married and enjoy sex with ones husband or wife but that does not compare with the complete immersion one feels with ones soulmate. This is from someone who never believed in love. " This a 1000 times over and I count my blessings each and every day to be married to mine. Mrs xx | |||
"I've never felt like a man has made love to me ever. Even during my 30 years with my husband it never felt that intimate. I've had sensual sex with men I don't love that was lovely and became intense,but the emotional side wasn't there." It's very sad to here that in 30 years of marriage.you never felt your husband made love to you. I hope some day you experience that beautiful feeling .. everybody should at some stage of there life.. | |||
"I've never felt like a man has made love to me ever. Even during my 30 years with my husband it never felt that intimate. I've had sensual sex with men I don't love that was lovely and became intense,but the emotional side wasn't there. It's very sad to here that in 30 years of marriage.you never felt your husband made love to you. I hope some day you experience that beautiful feeling .. everybody should at some stage of there life.." For 27 of those years he didn't kiss me. I wanted that more than anything else | |||
"Is there such a thing? Isn't it just a fantastical way of saying having sex? If you're in love do you always make love? Personally I think its all poppycock!" Totally in agreement...utter piffle. | |||
"I've never felt like a man has made love to me ever. Even during my 30 years with my husband it never felt that intimate. I've had sensual sex with men I don't love that was lovely and became intense,but the emotional side wasn't there. It's very sad to here that in 30 years of marriage.you never felt your husband made love to you. I hope some day you experience that beautiful feeling .. everybody should at some stage of there life.. For 27 of those years he didn't kiss me. I wanted that more than anything else " You should have kicked him out | |||
"I've never felt like a man has made love to me ever. Even during my 30 years with my husband it never felt that intimate. I've had sensual sex with men I don't love that was lovely and became intense,but the emotional side wasn't there. It's very sad to here that in 30 years of marriage.you never felt your husband made love to you. I hope some day you experience that beautiful feeling .. everybody should at some stage of there life.. For 27 of those years he didn't kiss me. I wanted that more than anything else You should have kicked him out " I did | |||
"I've never felt like a man has made love to me ever. Even during my 30 years with my husband it never felt that intimate. I've had sensual sex with men I don't love that was lovely and became intense,but the emotional side wasn't there. It's very sad to here that in 30 years of marriage.you never felt your husband made love to you. I hope some day you experience that beautiful feeling .. everybody should at some stage of there life.. For 27 of those years he didn't kiss me. I wanted that more than anything else You should have kicked him out I did " Good for u. But pity u didn't do it 27 years ago | |||
" So what makes it on another level? What do you do that is different? It's the depth of the emotional connection, the openness, the intimacy - the totally trusting vulnerability to each other. I make love with my partners every time I fall in love, and because I am so unguarded emotionally I can make love 'in the now' sometimes with someone likeminded. I think it takes that openness for someone to do that in a casual scenario. A skillful, sensual lover can make a vague approximation of making love, but only the emotional connection makes it so. " This is very close to my view too. I have described my love to a partner as a gift of a horcrux, some smaller, some larger, pieces of me that are shared with lovers. Sure, occasionally sex with a partner happens without that, but I much prefer when a connection is made, intimacy is desired by both partners, and the physical encounter has an amazing intensity. (Horcruxes for those without kids or an interest in Harry Potter are parts of Voldemort's soul) | |||
" So what makes it on another level? What do you do that is different? It's the depth of the emotional connection, the openness, the intimacy - the totally trusting vulnerability to each other. I make love with my partners every time I fall in love, and because I am so unguarded emotionally I can make love 'in the now' sometimes with someone likeminded. I think it takes that openness for someone to do that in a casual scenario. A skillful, sensual lover can make a vague approximation of making love, but only the emotional connection makes it so. This is very close to my view too. I have described my love to a partner as a gift of a horcrux, some smaller, some larger, pieces of me that are shared with lovers. Sure, occasionally sex with a partner happens without that, but I much prefer when a connection is made, intimacy is desired by both partners, and the physical encounter has an amazing intensity. (Horcruxes for those without kids or an interest in Harry Potter are parts of Voldemort's soul)" I know exactly what you mean, I said the same once about a past love - I gave him a gift, it was part of me, and that stayed given even though I moved on. | |||
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"I need to feel that higher level of intensity....I think I've been close but maybe I'm not quite letting go... Hmm such a thought provoking read this thread has been. " Yes, it's about the loss of control, choosing to let go the end. I've been thinking about it too, may put up a thread later. | |||
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