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"if your children started swinging, obviously this only relates to those of us who have grown up children (I still call my 21year old son a child). I know this is a double standard etc and yes im wrong in some ways as Im swinging myself, but I would be absolutely devastated if I thought my son was on a site like this one, as he would be if he knew i was swinging (he'd be shocked if he knew I was still having sex to be honest). If i feel any guilt about swinging at all, it is in relation to what my kids would think." Totally understand where you are coming from - my kids are aware and feel it is my business. They also feel that it would not be their choice of lifestyle at their age now but are aware enough to allow for the possibility that they might change their mind one day. | |||
"if your children started swinging, obviously this only relates to those of us who have grown up children (I still call my 21year old son a child). I know this is a double standard etc and yes im wrong in some ways as Im swinging myself, but I would be absolutely devastated if I thought my son was on a site like this one, as he would be if he knew i was swinging (he'd be shocked if he knew I was still having sex to be honest). If i feel any guilt about swinging at all, it is in relation to what my kids would think." Well my parents don't interfere with me or judge so i would be exactly the same  | |||
"if your children started swinging, obviously this only relates to those of us who have grown up children (I still call my 21year old son a child). I know this is a double standard etc and yes im wrong in some ways as Im swinging myself, but I would be absolutely devastated if I thought my son was on a site like this one, as he would be if he knew i was swinging (he'd be shocked if he knew I was still having sex to be honest). If i feel any guilt about swinging at all, it is in relation to what my kids would think." Can I be honest and say I really don't understand why you would be devastated. Do you not think sex is such a fabulous pleasure ? Would you want to deny your son that pleasure ? If my daughter (26) were on here then I know she was happy in her own skin and knew just how to enjoy sex to the max. Or am I just an ole perv  | |||
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"Twice I've seen mothers meet daughters in swinging clubs. Once it was, er, shall we say "unexpected" and resulted in verbals that were louder than the music, from both sides, shocked that the other was there...and the second time, a different mother / daughter, it was like they had met in a pub for the first time. wow! now either of them would have been interesting to have seen Guess there's no big pattern to what to expect." | |||
"if your children started swinging, obviously this only relates to those of us who have grown up children (I still call my 21year old son a child). I know this is a double standard etc and yes im wrong in some ways as Im swinging myself, but I would be absolutely devastated if I thought my son was on a site like this one, as he would be if he knew i was swinging (he'd be shocked if he knew I was still having sex to be honest). If i feel any guilt about swinging at all, it is in relation to what my kids would think." I feel that posts like this show a persons real attitude toward swinging. I'd question why you are doing something you consider so wrong for yourself. I am able to separate me from my childrens mother. They are in their early 30's and mid 20's I don't need their permission or approval and if they should object they are entitled to their veiwpoint. I know they'd be quite liberal about it as long as im safe. In fact the youngest knows exactly what im up to. Would I be worried if they did it and used sites like this? NO I'm pretty sure they'd exercise enough sense to stay as safe as possibe. No less safe than visiting other clubs. To be honest I think they'd be safer in some swinging clubs than in vanilla venues. To say it's not good enough for them indicates that it's viewed as something deviant or dirty and that we should all be monogomous to be acceptable. Boolicks ! | |||
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"if your children started swinging, obviously this only relates to those of us who have grown up children (I still call my 21year old son a child). I know this is a double standard etc and yes im wrong in some ways as Im swinging myself, but I would be absolutely devastated if I thought my son was on a site like this one, as he would be if he knew i was swinging (he'd be shocked if he knew I was still having sex to be honest). If i feel any guilt about swinging at all, it is in relation to what my kids would think. I feel that posts like this show a persons real attitude toward swinging. I'd question why you are doing something you consider so wrong for yourself. I am able to separate me from my childrens mother. They are in their early 30's and mid 20's I don't need their permission or approval and if they should object they are entitled to their veiwpoint. I know they'd be quite liberal about it as long as im safe. In fact the youngest knows exactly what im up to. Would I be worried if they did it and used sites like this? NO I'm pretty sure they'd exercise enough sense to stay as safe as possibe. No less safe than visiting other clubs. To be honest I think they'd be safer in some swinging clubs than in vanilla venues. To say it's not good enough for them indicates that it's viewed as something deviant or dirty and that we should all be monogomous to be acceptable. Boolicks !" totally agree with granny here I have 3 boys 17,19.21 and I know they have all had sexual relationships !!!! Sex is a good thing not something to be kept hidden away like it was back in the day lol !!!! I agree that it may be uncomfortable to meet your child in a swingers club but at the end of the day it aint as dangerous as in a vanilla club. just my take  | |||
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"if your children started swinging, obviously this only relates to those of us who have grown up children (I still call my 21year old son a child). I know this is a double standard etc and yes im wrong in some ways as Im swinging myself, but I would be absolutely devastated if I thought my son was on a site like this one, as he would be if he knew i was swinging (he'd be shocked if he knew I was still having sex to be honest). If i feel any guilt about swinging at all, it is in relation to what my kids would think. I feel that posts like this show a persons real attitude toward swinging. I'd question why you are doing something you consider so wrong for yourself. I am able to separate me from my childrens mother. They are in their early 30's and mid 20's I don't need their permission or approval and if they should object they are entitled to their veiwpoint. I know they'd be quite liberal about it as long as im safe. In fact the youngest knows exactly what im up to. Would I be worried if they did it and used sites like this? NO I'm pretty sure they'd exercise enough sense to stay as safe as possibe. No less safe than visiting other clubs. To be honest I think they'd be safer in some swinging clubs than in vanilla venues. To say it's not good enough for them indicates that it's viewed as something deviant or dirty and that we should all be monogomous to be acceptable. Boolicks !" Saved me typing a lengthy answer Granny. Spot on hon. Agree wholeheartedly | |||
" No less safe than visiting other clubs. To be honest I think they'd be safer in some swinging clubs than in vanilla venues. !" That is a really, really good point - the club scene is about like minded people with a specific interest and "goal" ... alcohol is usually consumed only in moderate amounts and the chances of getting eating up or otherwise injured are remote... | |||
" No less safe than visiting other clubs. To be honest I think they'd be safer in some swinging clubs than in vanilla venues. ! That is a really, really good point - the club scene is about like minded people with a specific interest and "goal" ... alcohol is usually consumed only in moderate amounts and the chances of getting eating up or otherwise injured are remote... " whoops Freudian slip - I meant chance of getting BEATEN up... | |||
"Well I know from previous experience Granny that you disagree with everything I have to say, but that aside, yes it is double standards, as i stated above. I want the fairytale for my son. I want him to meet a lovely girl (he has done, he is engaged and shes a beautiful and lovely person) and i want him to get married and enjoy a fantastic sex life with that one person and have children and have a good job and him to live happily ever after. the other issue is that I feel you have to express a certain maturity in relation to swinging and I dont feel he has that maturity. I do look on swinging as an adventure and i am enjoying the lifestyle at the moment. But i wouldnt tell my work colleagues what I do because I know I would be judged, do you tell everyone that you swing? Or do you hold back the information because you would be judged and does it make you just a little ashamed?" I cannot ever remember disagreeing with you ever. I have NO idea who you are. As you are so sure I will say the opposite to you - it is possible for you to write my responses for me. | |||
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"Whenever I have attended parties or socials I have NEVER had a problem with d*unks Nightclubs, jeez, they 10 a penny I know which environment I would prefer my kids to be" think the only problems WE ever had... were when you and I were together at the same event and decided to drink champagne lol... | |||
"Whenever I have attended parties or socials I have NEVER had a problem with d*unks Nightclubs, jeez, they 10 a penny I know which environment I would prefer my kids to be think the only problems WE ever had... were when you and I were together at the same event and decided to drink champagne lol..." errrr which one lol | |||
"Whenever I have attended parties or socials I have NEVER had a problem with d*unks Nightclubs, jeez, they 10 a penny I know which environment I would prefer my kids to be think the only problems WE ever had... were when you and I were together at the same event and decided to drink champagne lol... errrr which one lol" actually.... all of them  | |||
"Whenever I have attended parties or socials I have NEVER had a problem with d*unks Nightclubs, jeez, they 10 a penny I know which environment I would prefer my kids to be think the only problems WE ever had... were when you and I were together at the same event and decided to drink champagne lol... errrr which one lol actually.... all of them "Exactly and when's the next one lol  | |||
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"Whenever I have attended parties or socials I have NEVER had a problem with d*unks Nightclubs, jeez, they 10 a penny I know which environment I would prefer my kids to be think the only problems WE ever had... were when you and I were together at the same event and decided to drink champagne lol... errrr which one lol actually.... all of them
Exactly and when's the next one lol"You do know - lol | |||
"Quite a lot of double standards showing on here. And to me swing clubs are way safer than normal nightclubs." Absolutely - nice bottom !!!!! | |||
"Whenever I have attended parties or socials I have NEVER had a problem with d*unks Nightclubs, jeez, they 10 a penny I know which environment I would prefer my kids to be think the only problems WE ever had... were when you and I were together at the same event and decided to drink champagne lol... errrr which one lol actually.... all of them
Exactly and when's the next one lol
You do know - lol"Champagne at the ready | |||
"I want him to meet a lovely girl (he has done, he is engaged and shes a beautiful and lovely person) and i want him to get married and enjoy a fantastic sex life with that one person and have children and have a good job and him to live happily ever after." Most people who swing already have all that  makes it all sound like your really ashamed to be on here | |||
"I want him to meet a lovely girl (he has done, he is engaged and shes a beautiful and lovely person) and i want him to get married and enjoy a fantastic sex life with that one person and have children and have a good job and him to live happily ever after. Most people who swing already have all that makes it all sound like your really ashamed to be on here "dogmiesters I completely agree with you! i think if a couple is swinging they should be in a great relationship anyway. | |||
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However, I see the flaw in my question..... it assumes all swingers have a mature, open minded, non-judgemental attitude regarding recreational sex...... which is obviously not the case or I would not be asking the question.  | |||
" i think if a couple is swinging they should be in a great relationship anyway. " Absolutely - swinging when your relationship is good, will enhance it. If you are struggling in your relationship it will not fix the relationship. So I agree with you | |||
 ) I would hope it wouldnt cause any problems, for them, more than for me - Im an adult I can make up me own mind what I want to do.
By the time my girls are adults I would hope that I have taught them that nothing is wrong with sex and you have to be comfortable within your own skin.
All I ever want for my children is for them to be healthy and happy - if going out to a club (sex) once a week fortnight or month is what they want to do go for it HOWEVER I would be less happy if they went to the local meat market (normal club) every week fortnight or month, too many things can and do go wrong so often 
In recent years I have been to both types of clubs and tbh there is more expectation at "normal" night clubs that there is at swingers clubs, well the ones we have been to anyway.
I wouldnt go the same night as my daughters were going - save their blushes lets face it who wants to see mum and dad wandering about nakkie???
Shona
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Mum's don't have sex don't you know, and naturally they think I found them under the gooseberry bush! | |||
"My children would be absolutely devastated if they knew I was on here!
Mum's don't have sex don't you know, and naturally they think I found them under the gooseberry bush! "I think that's the way most offspring think most of the time. We dont shout to ours but if they asked we wouldn't lie to them but we wouldn't come strait out with it. | |||
"Well I know from previous experience Granny that you disagree with everything I have to say, but that aside, yes it is double standards, as i stated above. I want the fairytale for my son. I want him to meet a lovely girl (he has done, he is engaged and shes a beautiful and lovely person) and i want him to get married and enjoy a fantastic sex life with that one person and have children and have a good job and him to live happily ever after. the other issue is that I feel you have to express a certain maturity in relation to swinging and I dont feel he has that maturity. I do look on swinging as an adventure and i am enjoying the lifestyle at the moment. But i wouldnt tell my work colleagues what I do because I know I would be judged, do you tell everyone that you swing? Or do you hold back the information because you would be judged and does it make you just a little ashamed?" In a vanilla partnership or marriage you don't go around advertising your sexual activitities so no reason to do it just because you are a swinger. | |||
"My children would be absolutely devastated if they knew I was on here!
Mum's don't have sex don't you know, and naturally they think I found them under the gooseberry bush!
I think that's the way most offspring think most of the time. We dont shout to ours but if they asked we wouldn't lie to them but we wouldn't come strait out with it."Perfectly put, I'd do exactly the same to anyone who asked me the are you a swinger question !!! | |||
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" Perfectly put, I'd do exactly the same to anyone who asked me the are you a swinger question !!! "Seconded - would not go around flaunting it... but then would not lie about it either. | |||
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"This is gonna come out wrong I know because its hard to put into words. Whilst I am swinging myself, part of me does acknowledge that it is seedy. Now I have an adventurous side and at the moment I want to kick out at real life, but I wouldnt want my son doing it. Whilst we do talk about sex, me and him, it is always in a question and answer session and it is never crude. We have a good relationship and he thinks of me as well just mum, without sexuality, and with a lot of respect. We are not one of those families whereby I would go out clubbing and see him also in the same club with his mates, he would be embarrassed and I keep a certain decorum in that kind of thing. I cant really describe why I think its wrong but I know I wouldnt want him involved in this world, it does have a slightly seedy edge to it doesnt it, its why we are ashamed to admit it in real life and its why, if we are single, that we dont tell prospective partners about it, unless we met them on the swinging scene. Like ive maintained, it is double standards but I dont want this life for my son. " why is it seedy? i could probably have nights out and have more sexual partners if i went to a pub or club. i wouldnt be bothered if i found my son on this site or one like it. i the site and its members are open and say how they feel,and some of the topics are very enlightening its helped me alot in making my choices. | |||
"This is gonna come out wrong I know because its hard to put into words. Whilst I am swinging myself, part of me does acknowledge that it is seedy. Now I have an adventurous side and at the moment I want to kick out at real life, but I wouldnt want my son doing it. Whilst we do talk about sex, me and him, it is always in a question and answer session and it is never crude. We have a good relationship and he thinks of me as well just mum, without sexuality, and with a lot of respect. We are not one of those families whereby I would go out clubbing and see him also in the same club with his mates, he would be embarrassed and I keep a certain decorum in that kind of thing. I cant really describe why I think its wrong but I know I wouldnt want him involved in this world, it does have a slightly seedy edge to it doesnt it, its why we are ashamed to admit it in real life and its why, if we are single, that we dont tell prospective partners about it, unless we met them on the swinging scene. Like ive maintained, it is double standards but I dont want this life for my son. " You know what?!! I can see where you're coming from. Also, I don't think there's a parent alive who isn't a hypocrite where their children are concerned. We tell them not to speak to strangers, monitor what sites they go on on the internet etc yet we go on the internet and meet strangers for sex. We warm them about the dangers of binge drinking but think nothing of getting hammered ourselves. We make sure our children have their mobiles with them, tell us where they're going and who with, but many go off to meet strangers in hotels without telling another living soul what they're doing. The list is endless, and yes, I realise we're talking adult children here, but hypocrisy is hypocrisy! Double standards without a doubt, but we are all guily of it!! | |||
"if your children started swinging, obviously this only relates to those of us who have grown up children (I still call my 21year old son a child). I know this is a double standard etc and yes im wrong in some ways as Im swinging myself, but I would be absolutely devastated if I thought my son was on a site like this one, as he would be if he knew i was swinging (he'd be shocked if he knew I was still having sex to be honest). If i feel any guilt about swinging at all, it is in relation to what my kids would think." Omg you have a 21 year old son  you dont look old enough x | |||
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"This is gonna come out wrong I know because its hard to put into words. Whilst I am swinging myself, part of me does acknowledge that it is seedy. Now I have an adventurous side and at the moment I want to kick out at real life, but I wouldnt want my son doing it. Whilst we do talk about sex, me and him, it is always in a question and answer session and it is never crude. We have a good relationship and he thinks of me as well just mum, without sexuality, and with a lot of respect. We are not one of those families whereby I would go out clubbing and see him also in the same club with his mates, he would be embarrassed and I keep a certain decorum in that kind of thing. I cant really describe why I think its wrong but I know I wouldnt want him involved in this world, it does have a slightly seedy edge to it doesnt it, its why we are ashamed to admit it in real life and its why, if we are single, that we dont tell prospective partners about it, unless we met them on the swinging scene. Like ive maintained, it is double standards but I dont want this life for my son. " No it does not have a seedy edge it has a very open, sharing and caring edge in fact. "SEEDY" is only the way YOU percieve it and this is probably due to early "female programming" of you by others so it is not even really your own perspective. If you think it is "SEEDY" you really should not get involved as it may be able to have the respect for others that they deserve. I re-iterate "In a vanilla partnership or marriage you don't go around advertising your sexual activitities so no reason to do it just because you are a swinger." | |||
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"This is gonna come out wrong I know because its hard to put into words. Whilst I am swinging myself, part of me does acknowledge that it is seedy. Now I have an adventurous side and at the moment I want to kick out at real life, but I wouldnt want my son doing it. Whilst we do talk about sex, me and him, it is always in a question and answer session and it is never crude. We have a good relationship and he thinks of me as well just mum, without sexuality, and with a lot of respect. We are not one of those families whereby I would go out clubbing and see him also in the same club with his mates, he would be embarrassed and I keep a certain decorum in that kind of thing. I cant really describe why I think its wrong but I know I wouldnt want him involved in this world, it does have a slightly seedy edge to it doesnt it, its why we are ashamed to admit it in real life and its why, if we are single, that we dont tell prospective partners about it, unless we met them on the swinging scene. Like ive maintained, it is double standards but I dont want this life for my son. " I so respect your honesty, and you should be commended for it. It's not easy to say some of the things you have in this post on a swingers site. I would suggest most active swingers do not find their lifestyle choice to be 'seedy' or wrong in any way, and with the benefit of education, life experience, tolerance and free choice - they feel a certain 'pride' that they have a more open minded and liberated approach to sex and relationships. Lets not forget that todays socially unnacceptable is tomorrows norm (in the 50's most interracial relationships were frowned upon). On the question of how I would feel if my children chose this lifestyle,I personally have no preference either way BUT to use your phrase I would be 'devastated' if they grew up with an intolerance for those who do choose the lifestyle or dismiss them as being seedy. (I don't agree with your use of the word 'ashamed' but I do agree that because of intolerance and the sad aspect of society that is quick to judge, many feel they have to keep this aspect of their lives 'seperated' from the rest). I hope the next generation have less hang-ups than many in ours do. I therefore challenge you (in a friendly way) by asking you if you would like your son to have a similar view of this scene as you in later life? | |||
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"Interesting thread but, at the end of the day I think it's human nature to not want to think of their parents / kids having sex, especially wild free mad sex." I would suggest that this is more conditioning than human nature. | |||
"Interesting thread but, at the end of the day I think it's human nature to not want to think of their parents / kids having sex, especially wild free mad sex. I would suggest that this is more conditioning than human nature." why. | |||
"Interesting thread but, at the end of the day I think it's human nature to not want to think of their parents / kids having sex, especially wild free mad sex. I would suggest that this is more conditioning than human nature. why." let u know when I've finished my thesis | |||
"Sorry, I don't buy the one partner for the rest of my life cr@p anymore. Variety is the spice of life IMHO!
"I agree totally. I didn think it was one man forever its just a shame he deicded to change his mind on that one so I had to. Variety is the spice of life and one man forever, no thanks. My parents know I swing and so do many people in my family. My kids are still at primary school so doesnt apply, but if I can be honest to my family I hope I would be able to be honest with my kids if it came apparant they needed/wanted to know or for what ever reason. I am not ashamed of my swinging life. It is everything about me and can feel totally happy when having fun. My parents know I go to my local swing club, they let me use the car and often have put petrol in for me. They have seen how this helped me out of depression and has given me sexual confidence. I am very proud of what I do. | |||
"I took my daughter to a club the first time she ever went. I am her Father and proud that she trusted me with such a task. She is 34 years old and went with 2 of her female friends, my family have always known that I worked in the lifestyle and enjoyed it's pleasures. I took them to the club, showed them round and then sat at the bar all night in case 2 of them wanted to use the jacuzzi or other facilities and the other wanted to sit with me while they did so. I introduced them to the club staff and friends, now she has seen what it is like when she goes to the club she checks with me that I am not going and goes safe in the knowledge that she will not bump into me and vice versa. I am happy that she goes to a swingers club, she is divorced with 2 small boys, I would rather she went to a swingers club than to the nightclubs in Birmingham where drugs are being taken like sweets, where fights inside and outside are common, where binge drinking is encouraged and where if she meets someone she likes she is faced with the prospect of taking a stranger to her home where my grandkids are sleeping or going to a strangers home. I know at the club she is safe to do what she want and safe from many of the dangers of the general nightclub scene." Well done you and its wonderful that you have a great close relationship with your daughter that she was able to come to you and speak openly with you about it. I do think a paretn who is a swinger should understand more about a persons choice to swing more so than a parent who isnt a swinger as the swinger parent understands the reasons why. I would never go to a vanilla club on my own as would be shit scared. I regularly go to my local club alone as I feel comfy. I hope when my boys are older I can be as open and honest as you, well done xxx | |||
"Interesting thread but, at the end of the day I think it's human nature to not want to think of their parents / kids having sex, especially wild free mad sex. I would suggest that this is more conditioning than human nature." Your right its conditioning and part of societies rules for right and wrong. Like wearing clothes in public, eating with cutlery, not looking in someone's house window. In some societies in the pacific extended families live within long houses and no privacy is afforded and its accepted they family members have sex. | |||
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"Sorry, I don't buy the one partner for the rest of my life cr@p anymore. Variety is the spice of life IMHO!
I agree totally. I didn think it was one man forever its just a shame he deicded to change his mind on that one so I had to.
Variety is the spice of life and one man forever, no thanks.
My parents know I swing and so do many people in my family. My kids are still at primary school so doesnt apply, but if I can be honest to my family I hope I would be able to be honest with my kids if it came apparant they needed/wanted to know or for what ever reason.
I am not ashamed of my swinging life. It is everything about me and can feel totally happy when having fun. My parents know I go to my local swing club, they let me use the car and often have put petrol in for me. They have seen how this helped me out of depression and has given me sexual confidence. I am very proud of what I do."Now here is a lady who knows where her towel is! (Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy, for the uninitiated!) Basically, means she is very together in her attitude (to swinging). Well done Fruit xx (Dang! She made me go all warm and cuddly! ) | |||
Come on wise up, do you grown-ups think you have the monopoly on sex life?
Had my first (straight) MMF when I was 19, we didn’t call it swinging, we called it having fun with your mates.
First MFMF or rather ‘wife swap’ when I was about 22, we didn’t call it swinging or wife swapping, we just called it having fun with your mates.
In my mid twenties I was having sex with 3 different woman, often all three in the same day, swinging? No, having fun with my mates.
Then main difference between what mature swingers do and what your children do is you call it swinging and you kids just call it sex.
Now just to give it a twist, when I was in my early teens I heard that my older sister had had a gang-bang, basically went through half a dozen blokes in the one evening. Even then I thought ‘lucky sis’ however, if that was called ‘swinging’ it would have also been called ‘a good night out’ as it was, some people when they heard about it called her a dirty rotten slag.
If someone asks me about my sex life, whoever it is including my kids there is a good chance the answer will be ‘mind your own business’ and that answer has never been any different my whole life but I’ve always been totally open in respect of talking about sex and or offering advice.
Hypocrite? NO. Do my kids know about my sex life? NO, it’s none of their business. However I do sometimes think they are missing out by (so far as I know) not being in the swinging hobby. | |||
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"This is gonna come out wrong I know because its hard to put into words. Whilst I am swinging myself, part of me does acknowledge that it is seedy. Now I have an adventurous side and at the moment I want to kick out at real life, but I wouldnt want my son doing it. Whilst we do talk about sex, me and him, it is always in a question and answer session and it is never crude. We have a good relationship and he thinks of me as well just mum, without sexuality, and with a lot of respect. We are not one of those families whereby I would go out clubbing and see him also in the same club with his mates, he would be embarrassed and I keep a certain decorum in that kind of thing. I cant really describe why I think its wrong but I know I wouldnt want him involved in this world, it does have a slightly seedy edge to it doesnt it, its why we are ashamed to admit it in real life and its why, if we are single, that we dont tell prospective partners about it, unless we met them on the swinging scene. Like ive maintained, it is double standards but I dont want this life for my son. " While I understand where you're coming from I feel I need to ask, if you found that your son was involved in this lifestyle, would you go so far as to be angry with him for it? And while I also understand that you want the fairy tale for your son, you have got to wake up and smell the coffee. That very rarely happens. I have 2 boys and while of course I want the best for them, their safety, happiness and freedom to express themselves and choose their own path in life is of upmost importance to me. Straight, gay, bi, regular sex or rampant swingers, while I may not wish to be in a club with them present (slightly sick to me) I have brought them up to respect. And by that I have to respect them. | |||
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"I also feel that many of us have been in loving, monogamous relationships and are now mature enough to want to spice our sex lives up. At 21 you shouldnt be wanting or needing to spice anything up as its all new and exciting. My son and his fiancee are in love and at that love hearts and puppy dog stage, they dont need sex with strangers at this point in their young lives. I also dont think its sensible tn do something that puts you at risk of recurrent STI's, oral sex carries a risk, if you are planning babies in a few years." But that is a different argument! If you had asked "Do you think that kids under, say 25 should be in the swing scene"... Of course all the "liberal elite would say "It's their choice" But only because they haven't thought for themselves for so long because of the politically correct society we have lived in for the last 20 years. Yes it is their choice, but I am one of those that have our own opinion on things and will post that opinion! When we were in our late teens and twenties, we were in the throes of passion for each other and thinking about kids and I have to wonder about any couple that young who start swinging this early. BTW... Before anyone picks up on Iconic's use of the phrase "Spice our sex lives up". That is what we are all doing! It is exciting and while not replacing what we have with our significant other, it does "spice it up" | |||
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"I also feel that many of us have been in loving, monogamous relationships and are now mature enough to want to spice our sex lives up. At 21 you shouldnt be wanting or needing to spice anything up as its all new and exciting. My son and his fiancee are in love and at that love hearts and puppy dog stage, they dont need sex with strangers at this point in their young lives. I also dont think its sensible tn do something that puts you at risk of recurrent STI's, oral sex carries a risk, if you are planning babies in a few years." i am disagreeing with this. i dont see this as spicing up my sex life i see it as "my sex life" this is the way i like sex, the things i do in the swingscene is normall to me and they always have been. even when i am with a partner if we keep it monogamous our sex lifes are always a little more than what you would call normall. so when you think about younger people weather it be couples or single, take into acount my other post and also take into acount that they could have always been a higher sexual being and normal has never really cut it for them (this was ment to come across in a nice way not argumentative) | |||
"Sorry, I don't buy the one partner for the rest of my life cr@p anymore. Variety is the spice of life IMHO!
I agree totally. I didn think it was one man forever its just a shame he deicded to change his mind on that one so I had to.
Variety is the spice of life and one man forever, no thanks.
My parents know I swing and so do many people in my family. My kids are still at primary school so doesnt apply, but if I can be honest to my family I hope I would be able to be honest with my kids if it came apparant they needed/wanted to know or for what ever reason.
I am not ashamed of my swinging life. It is everything about me and can feel totally happy when having fun. My parents know I go to my local swing club, they let me use the car and often have put petrol in for me. They have seen how this helped me out of depression and has given me sexual confidence. I am very proud of what I do.
Now here is a lady who knows where her towel is! (Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy, for the uninitiated!)
Basically, means she is very together in her attitude (to swinging). Well done Fruit xx (Dang! She made me go all warm and cuddly! )"Thanks hunny, made me blush. To be honest I am a crap lier too so is easier to be honest. xx | |||
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"I also feel that many of us have been in loving, monogamous relationships and are now mature enough to want to spice our sex lives up. At 21 you shouldnt be wanting or needing to spice anything up as its all new and exciting. My son and his fiancee are in love and at that love hearts and puppy dog stage, they dont need sex with strangers at this point in their young lives. I also dont think its sensible tn do something that puts you at risk of recurrent STI's, oral sex carries a risk, if you are planning babies in a few years. But that is a different argument! If you had asked "Do you think that kids under, say 25 should be in the swing scene"... Of course all the "liberal elite would say "It's their choice" But only because they haven't thought for themselves for so long because of the politically correct society we have lived in for the last 20 years. Yes it is their choice, but I am one of those that have our own opinion on things and will post that opinion! When we were in our late teens and twenties, we were in the throes of passion for each other and thinking about kids and I have to wonder about any couple that young who start swinging this early. BTW... Before anyone picks up on Iconic's use of the phrase "Spice our sex lives up". That is what we are all doing! It is exciting and while not replacing what we have with our significant other, it does "spice it up" "Yes, that is a different argument and something for couples to consider, but this is a different era. Couples may think differently. | |||
"I also feel that many of us have been in loving, monogamous relationships and are now mature enough to want to spice our sex lives up. At 21 you shouldnt be wanting or needing to spice anything up as its all new and exciting. My son and his fiancee are in love and at that love hearts and puppy dog stage, they dont need sex with strangers at this point in their young lives. I also dont think its sensible tn do something that puts you at risk of recurrent STI's, oral sex carries a risk, if you are planning babies in a few years. But that is a different argument! If you had asked "Do you think that kids under, say 25 should be in the swing scene"... Of course all the "liberal elite would say "It's their choice" But only because they haven't thought for themselves for so long because of the politically correct society we have lived in for the last 20 years. Yes it is their choice, but I am one of those that have our own opinion on things and will post that opinion! When we were in our late teens and twenties, we were in the throes of passion for each other and thinking about kids and I have to wonder about any couple that young who start swinging this early. BTW... Before anyone picks up on Iconic's use of the phrase "Spice our sex lives up". That is what we are all doing! It is exciting and while not replacing what we have with our significant other, it does "spice it up" "Thank you for thinking for me and for deciding my opinion and on what it is based, it is nice that we have some people who know everything and can make those nasty little choices for us. But hang on, I have given a lot of thought to swinging and I certainly don't live my life according to the rules of PC, and wait a minute, at 21 I had been married for 3 years and we were experimenting with 3somes and more, it was part of that growing up feeling, we felt strong and comfortable in our marriage and enjoyed the thrill of doing things differently, our first vibrator, our first game of strip poker as a couple and with friends and much more that we experimented with. We were lucky, we didn't have people looking over at us and saying "your too young to be doing that, tut tut you should be enjoying sex with each other not experimenting with others, you should do as we say not do what you think you would like to do. | |||
"This is gonna come out wrong I know because its hard to put into words. Whilst I am swinging myself, part of me does acknowledge that it is seedy. Now I have an adventurous side and at the moment I want to kick out at real life, but I wouldnt want my son doing it. Whilst we do talk about sex, me and him, it is always in a question and answer session and it is never crude. We have a good relationship and he thinks of me as well just mum, without sexuality, and with a lot of respect. We are not one of those families whereby I would go out clubbing and see him also in the same club with his mates, he would be embarrassed and I keep a certain decorum in that kind of thing. I cant really describe why I think its wrong but I know I wouldnt want him involved in this world, it does have a slightly seedy edge to it doesnt it, its why we are ashamed to admit it in real life and its why, if we are single, that we dont tell prospective partners about it, unless we met them on the swinging scene. Like ive maintained, it is double standards but I dont want this life for my son. " Speak for yourself... I am not ashamed of who I am and what I do!
I am totally honest and upfront with anyone who has any business to know about my sex life.
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"As for those who think swinging is seedy, perhaps you should change the way you go about swinging, nothing Sasha or I do is seedy, nor will it ever be. We are clean, honest and open about what we do, our families know and our friends know, we don't sneak about doing it and we don't blatantly do it in public. Neither do we do the lovely non-swinging activities like binge drinking and showing our bits as we come out of the nightclub, fall around d*unk or start fights, vomit in public, have sex in alleyways and cars or sware in the kebab shop. "be worse if you eat the stuff that comes out of kebab shop!!!
but your judgin the vanilla lifestyle so isnt that just as bad?? me personally couldnt give a shit how anyone gets their thrills its nothin to do with me xx | |||
"Interesting thread but, at the end of the day I think it's human nature to not want to think of their parents / kids having sex, especially wild free mad sex. I would suggest that this is more conditioning than human nature. why." May be because nature drives our sexual desires and it is nurture which puts all the restrictions on it. | |||
"yes it is double standards, as i stated above. I want the fairytale for my son. I want him to meet a lovely girl (he has done, he is engaged and shes a beautiful and lovely person) and i want him to get married and enjoy a fantastic sex life with that one person and have children and have a good job and him to live happily ever after. " You say you want what you consider to be perfect for your son.....so why are you here? You obviously don't think that your relationship comes anywhere near this ?? You should only be swinging if you have a strong, happy and stable relationship to begin with. If your relationship is less than this you shouldn't be here till you have sorted out what is happening at home. If I came upon my daughter at a swinging club or on here it wouldn't faze me as we talk about every detail of our lives and have a good friendship. As long as she was happy, safe and having as much fun as she can I would be happy! | |||
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"So in conclusion swinging is for old people fed up with their husband/wife and needing to 'spice things up'? I'll leave now then yeah..." No No No.... stay.... as long as you feel suitably ashamed of yourselves later. | |||
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"So in conclusion swinging is for old people fed up with their husband/wife and needing to 'spice things up'? I'll leave now then yeah..." Nope its for happy people with an experimental streak who want to add to what they already have, after all, 2 people cannot have a 3sum or 4sum no matter how hard they try | |||
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"So in conclusion swinging is for old people fed up with their husband/wife and needing to 'spice things up'? I'll leave now then yeah..." No, it is for everybody - especially sweet people like you! | |||
"actually not judging the vanilla lifestyle simply pointing out that even that has it's seedy side as do many lifestyles." Think the so called vanilla is possibly seedier because it is under hand... not open ? | |||
"I think it's the idea that swinging is only for when your fed up with your partner that gives swinging a bad name. I resent the implication that for some reason young people shouldn't be here they should be enjoying each other. Can't we do both?" So... It has gone from "spice things up" to "Fed up with partner"!! I have not seen anyone post that they swing because they are fed up with their partner or that they believe that! Indeed, if they were then they shouldn't be swinging! So tell me, why do you swing? Just because you can or because you enjoy it? I suspect you might just enjoy it and if that is the case does it mean you are fed up with your partner? No and nor is that the case with us. Like us, you probably find it exciting and as such it adds a bit of spice to your lives! Please correct me if I am wrong! Meeting new people, making friends and playing with them is great. being able to do that does give us more excitement in our lives, different to the normal holidays, weekends away and vanilla friends. If it didn't and we were just being mechanical about it, we would stop! | |||
"actually not judging the vanilla lifestyle simply pointing out that even that has it's seedy side as do many lifestyles." exactly! one persons seedy is one persons normal! if there is such a thing! x | |||
"actually not judging the vanilla lifestyle simply pointing out that even that has it's seedy side as do many lifestyles. Think the so called vanilla is possibly seedier because it is under hand... not open ? " When we were "outed" (a very fraught time for us) we were ridiculed by almost everyone at work. But who is the worst? We were playing with others with each others consent. At least three of those people who were nasty went off to their lovers at somepoint during the week! (2 men and 1 lady) | |||
"actually not judging the vanilla lifestyle simply pointing out that even that has it's seedy side as do many lifestyles. Think the so called vanilla is possibly seedier because it is under hand... not open ? When we were "outed" (a very fraught time for us) we were ridiculed by almost everyone at work. But who is the worst? We were playing with others with each others consent. At least three of those people who were nasty went off to their lovers at somepoint during the week! (2 men and 1 lady)" exactly!! its terrible when live and let live goes right out the window. what you are doin doesnt hurt anyone, what your collegues are doin does hurt someone xx | |||
Altough personally that phrase conjurs up images of middle aged people writingn into Dear Dedrie looking for suggestions on how to spice up a boring sex life - but again that might just be me. | |||
"You're right, no one has said they are here becuase they are fed up with their partner. I'm reffering to the implication seen in your post, among others, that young couples should be too busy with each other to swing. Logical thinking, might just be me mind, translates that as once you've done as much as you can with your partner, then, and only then, are you meant to swing." If that was the impression you got, perhaps I didn't phrase it very well. We have been married for over 30 years and we are still finding our sex life exiting, even without involving anyone else. "I swing becuase we're living out some fantasies (some we had before meeting, some we've 'developed' together) and because it turns us on and enhances our sex life. 'Spices it up' if you must ."Yep! That is what I meant "Altough personally that phrase conjurs up images of middle aged people writingn into Dear Dedrie looking for suggestions on how to spice up a boring sex life - but again that might just be me." Enhance: to raise to a higher degree; intensify; magnify (or to "spice up") Whether it is your interpretation or not, that quote from an online dictionary is what I was alluding to.. But anyway, being middle aged, I had better go off and pen a few lines to "Dear Dedrie" | |||
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I certainly dont swing cos im fed up with my guy, nothing could be further from the truth, I think if you were to pull most of my threads you would see how I rave about him, he is absolutely gorgeous and I adore him, no way am i fed up.
I swing because Im living out a fantasy, I feel im doing something naughty, I always wanted to know what it was like having two guys touching me etc, and I wanted to do it before I get too old to and just in case the menopause kicked in and stole my libido (thats a joke by the way, its not an insult about menopausal women)
For my son, hes young, hes in love, he has an idealistic view of life because hes been sheltered and had a pretty ok life up to now. Its not i dislike the siwnging scene, hey im here and I have to say that during the 10months i have been swinging, ive never met so many absolutely lovely and down to earth people, but swinging is about sex without love, we can all agree that cant we. its about lust, its about fantasy, well it is to me, im not looking for romance whilst swinging, I have a guy who give me that. I want my son to experience sex with love, with passion, I want his experiences to be fumbled not knowing what to do and learning and experimenting with his girlfriend, i dont want his sexual experience to be in a swinging club, where his only view of sex would be soulless and sex without love. Most of us have been in love and we all have experienced what sex in a loving relationship can be like. All im saying is that I want him to have this experience, to have meaningful sex, rather than meaningless. When hes older and more mature maybe he will want to find out what fantasy sex is all about, but at the moment I want the fairytale for him, thats why I would be devastated if he was swinging.
In my home, whilst I would talk to my son about sex, its always in a discussion type of way, ill answer anything he wants to ask me, but i would never discuss my own sex life with him or joke or be crude about sex, its just not how I bring my children up. Theres a definite parent/child boundary, but we all do whats best for us
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"First of all Im definitely gonna have "spice up your sex life" as my catchphrase, loving it lol
I certainly dont swing cos im fed up with my guy, nothing could be further from the truth, I think if you were to pull most of my threads you would see how I rave about him, he is absolutely gorgeous and I adore him, no way am i fed up.
I swing because Im living out a fantasy, I feel im doing something naughty, I always wanted to know what it was like having two guys touching me etc, and I wanted to do it before I get too old to and just in case the menopause kicked in and stole my libido (thats a joke by the way, its not an insult about menopausal women)
For my son, hes young, hes in love, he has an idealistic view of life because hes been sheltered and had a pretty ok life up to now. Its not i dislike the siwnging scene, hey im here and I have to say that during the 10months i have been swinging, ive never met so many absolutely lovely and down to earth people, but swinging is about sex without love, we can all agree that cant we. its about lust, its about fantasy, well it is to me, im not looking for romance whilst swinging, I have a guy who give me that. I want my son to experience sex with love, with passion, I want his experiences to be fumbled not knowing what to do and learning and experimenting with his girlfriend, i dont want his sexual experience to be in a swinging club, where his only view of sex would be soulless and sex without love. Most of us have been in love and we all have experienced what sex in a loving relationship can be like. All im saying is that I want him to have this experience, to have meaningful sex, rather than meaningless. When hes older and more mature maybe he will want to find out what fantasy sex is all about, but at the moment I want the fairytale for him, thats why I would be devastated if he was swinging.
In my home, whilst I would talk to my son about sex, its always in a discussion type of way, ill answer anything he wants to ask me, but i would never discuss my own sex life with him or joke or be crude about sex, its just not how I bring my children up. Theres a definite parent/child boundary, but we all do whats best for us
"I was a bit of a late starter so to speak so maybe my comments won't be too relevant. I understand exactly where your coming from Iconic HOWEVER I think this is a woman's point of view (forgive me if I am wrong) the reason I say that is this My stepson hit 16 and did his best to shag any girl he could talk into opening her legs, he was not interested in a long lasting relationship he just wanted to get his end away. He is now 38 and since his teenage years I think things have changed, I believe the girls are now just as keen for fantastic pleasurable sex and nothing else as much as the boys. There is so much more information on the net, telly in schools etc the "mystery" the used to surround sex has long been smashed to bits. Although it would never happen I wonder what your son's view would be ? | |||
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"Ok I'm back out now. Why should the younger swingers out there be put in a position where they are basically being told there must be something missing from their lives if they choose to swing? And who the heck NEEDS to swing?
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"First of all Im definitely gonna have "spice up your sex life" as my catchphrase, loving it lol
I certainly dont swing cos im fed up with my guy, nothing could be further from the truth, I think if you were to pull most of my threads you would see how I rave about him, he is absolutely gorgeous and I adore him, no way am i fed up.
I swing because Im living out a fantasy, I feel im doing something naughty, I always wanted to know what it was like having two guys touching me etc, and I wanted to do it before I get too old to and just in case the menopause kicked in and stole my libido (thats a joke by the way, its not an insult about menopausal women)
For my son, hes young, hes in love, he has an idealistic view of life because hes been sheltered and had a pretty ok life up to now. Its not i dislike the siwnging scene, hey im here and I have to say that during the 10months i have been swinging, ive never met so many absolutely lovely and down to earth people, but swinging is about sex without love, we can all agree that cant we. its about lust, its about fantasy, well it is to me, im not looking for romance whilst swinging, I have a guy who give me that. I want my son to experience sex with love, with passion, I want his experiences to be fumbled not knowing what to do and learning and experimenting with his girlfriend, i dont want his sexual experience to be in a swinging club, where his only view of sex would be soulless and sex without love. Most of us have been in love and we all have experienced what sex in a loving relationship can be like. All im saying is that I want him to have this experience, to have meaningful sex, rather than meaningless. When hes older and more mature maybe he will want to find out what fantasy sex is all about, but at the moment I want the fairytale for him, thats why I would be devastated if he was swinging.
In my home, whilst I would talk to my son about sex, its always in a discussion type of way, ill answer anything he wants to ask me, but i would never discuss my own sex life with him or joke or be crude about sex, its just not how I bring my children up. Theres a definite parent/child boundary, but we all do whats best for us
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"So you need swinging as a social life? I see the differnece now. We have a social life outside of swinging. We have a social life together and seperatly and don't rely on swinging events to provide us with that. We really enjoy the social side of swinging as well and it's a great part of this but its not our only social life and we don't 'need' swinging to provide us with that. All you said just cements the idea portrayed that swinging is only for when something is lacking somewhere which I don't agree with." Not sure whether you are being deliberately obtuse or you really just don’t get it! I believe when people talk about the “need” they aren’t talking about need as when people need a drug or need money to pay a due bill. I believe needing to swing is about making friends and having a social life after the normal activities of life gets in the way of friendships in your 20’s and 30’s. Let me explain from my perspective… Like most people our age, we had a tough time starting to build a home and buying our house. Then along came children who took up just about all our time. Money was always short while we started our first business, so yes, we did neglect our friends and lost most of them over the years. As has been alluded to in an earlier post, I also found it difficult to relate to strangers (make friends) once I realised what had happened and although I had business friends, I realised that I also had a business mentality. I was dealing with people on the same lines as my business acquaintances. So I needed to get involved with a clubs or societies to kick start my old self. So, what did I have? Religion, the largest club of all. I believe the reason most people are religious is that sense of belonging, but certainly not for me. The Rotary Club? No, it is not an inclusive club, wouldn’t find many ordinary people there (And yes, I did know most of our local members!) There are other interest groups I loved. Motor racing in some form, but again mainly people with money. Local historical society… excuse to sit in their private bar and be insular! Then we discovered swinging! People from all walks of life. People with opinions, even if I don’t agree with them. People of all shapes and sizes. People with many and varied wants and needs… All things to all men (and women) and a bloody good place to be. So yes, I need swinging because it is MY social club and despite my sometimes outspoken ways, I do have more friends within the scene than I or many other have outside. I don’t know whether you have had children yet or whether you have started a business or indeed have had to move away from you home area away from your school friends. I suspect not. Tired of lying in the sunshine Staying home to watch the rain And you are young and life is long And there is time to kill today And then one day you find Ten years have got behind you No one told you when to run You missed the starting gun (Time: Dark Side of the Moon. Pink Floyd 1973) That kinda sums it up for us. Missed out on all those great times we hope you will have and now (for the last 12 years) trying to claw it back. Good luck to you x | |||
"So you need swinging as a social life? I see the differnece now. We have a social life outside of swinging. We have a social life together and seperatly and don't rely on swinging events to provide us with that. We really enjoy the social side of swinging as well and it's a great part of this but its not our only social life and we don't 'need' swinging to provide us with that. All you said just cements the idea portrayed that swinging is only for when something is lacking somewhere which I don't agree with. Not sure whether you are being deliberately obtuse or you really just don’t get it! I believe when people talk about the “need” they aren’t talking about need as when people need a drug or need money to pay a due bill. I believe needing to swing is about making friends and having a social life after the normal activities of life gets in the way of friendships in your 20’s and 30’s. Let me explain from my perspective… Like most people our age, we had a tough time starting to build a home and buying our house. Then along came children who took up just about all our time. Money was always short while we started our first business, so yes, we did neglect our friends and lost most of them over the years. As has been alluded to in an earlier post, I also found it difficult to relate to strangers (make friends) once I realised what had happened and although I had business friends, I realised that I also had a business mentality. I was dealing with people on the same lines as my business acquaintances. So I needed to get involved with a clubs or societies to kick start my old self. So, what did I have? Religion, the largest club of all. I believe the reason most people are religious is that sense of belonging, but certainly not for me. The Rotary Club? No, it is not an inclusive club, wouldn’t find many ordinary people there (And yes, I did know most of our local members!) There are other interest groups I loved. Motor racing in some form, but again mainly people with money. Local historical society… excuse to sit in their private bar and be insular! Then we discovered swinging! People from all walks of life. People with opinions, even if I don’t agree with them. People of all shapes and sizes. People with many and varied wants and needs… All things to all men (and women) and a bloody good place to be. So yes, I need swinging because it is MY social club and despite my sometimes outspoken ways, I do have more friends within the scene than I or many other have outside. I don’t know whether you have had children yet or whether you have started a business or indeed have had to move away from you home area away from your school friends. I suspect not. Tired of lying in the sunshine Staying home to watch the rain And you are young and life is long And there is time to kill today And then one day you find Ten years have got behind you No one told you when to run You missed the starting gun (Time: Dark Side of the Moon. Pink Floyd 1973) That kinda sums it up for us. Missed out on all those great times we hope you will have and now (for the last 12 years) trying to claw it back. Good luck to you x " my respect for u has just multiplied ten fold!! away to lie down in a darkened room.....xx | |||
"my respect for u has just multiplied ten fold!! away to lie down in a darkened room.....xx "So, my cunning plan is working, Baldrick! Just have to find where this "Darkened Room" is... My lord, I think I have it! Yes Baldrick, I can smell it from here.. No My Lord, I think what you are looking for is in the yard, I have seen a (whispers) Dark Hen down there... It must have a room? THWAK! | |||
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" "I maybe just don't get it." "Ok so you don’t get it... what I don’t get is why you seem to misconstrued things into something that sounds derogative! Such phraseology as ‘Swinging is only required when something is lacking’!!! Ok, so I’ve just got in from work, got a bit of time spare before I go pick the misses up from work. There is nothing that needs doing in the house so I’ve got time to fill. There is sod all on the telly that is of interest to me, net result is I have some spare time that I ‘need’ to fill else the next 45 minutes will feel like a week. The swinging hobby right at this point in time is fulfilling a ‘need’ I NEED to occupy myself for 43 minutes and so I ‘need’ the swinging hobby just now. I can’t think of anything else I’d rather be doing, don’t want to phone my big sister just to hear all about her latest illnesses. I don’t want to go talk to a neighbour just to hear a load of shite about other neighbours, neither do I wish to chat about the price of carrots at ASDA compared to Tesco. Haven’t got enough time to wash the car or the dog, I haven’t got time to fix the leaking gutter etc. Do I want to go to the pub to create a social life? NO not my thing now. Do I want to join a gun club to create a social life? NO been there done that. Do I want to join a motorcycle club to create a social life? NO been there done that. Are you getting it now? Swinging... The social life comes to me via my PC/Internet/Phone. Get a few minutes spare, well I can reply to emails, write some emails, read some forums, post on some forums. Over the next few months we have parties to attend and while there we will meet a great diversity of people from all walks of life, from road sweeper to business owner and so it goes on. Do we ‘need’ this swinging hobby ‘YES’ because it suits us, pretty much every other form of creating and maintaining a social life that we can think of doesn’t suit us or doesn’t interest us and the crap that goes with most other forms of social life we really can do without. So ‘does swinging fulfil something that was lacking in our life?’ YES. Actually it fulfils a hell of a lot of things that were lacking in our life. Least of which is sex, we have a great sex life that stands up on its own and NOTHING we have experienced sexually in swing has come anywhere close to what we have together. Am I fed up/bored with my misses NO, is she with me NO, not sexually, emotionally or in any other way. Did either of us ‘need’ swinging sub-30’s-40’s NO, there was no need or time for it. Do we understand why younger people might want to swing? NO, sorry we don’t, never went short of anything that might be gained from the swinging hobby. Because of the fact of youth and limited experience EVERYTHING was more interesting, we had more time, we had more disposable income... tomorrow didn’t seem to matter so much as it was so far away with plenty of time. You, like anyone else has a life that is unique to you as is your perception of life. NO ONE is saying, NO ONE has said there is anything wrong with that although perhaps your perception is telling you something different and maybe that’s where your life/perception and my life/perception divide into different directions. | |||
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