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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"A profession is something a little more than a job, it is a career for someone that wants to be part of society, who becomes competent in their chosen sector through training; maintains their skills through continuing professional development (CPD); and commits to behaving ethically, to protect the interests of the public."
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"What are we discussing?
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Alternative _iew maybe (a lot on here proscribe to) is that a professional is someone who sometimes wears a tie to work so cannot send a face pic??????
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By *londeCazWoman
over a year ago
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Therefore, the carer who works towards various NVQs, the bin man who does the same, the solicitor, the doctor, the rail worker, the shop assistant...all CPD as far as I'm concerned.
I don't bother too much about whether someone has the P word on their profile unless the attitude displayed indicates a snobbery regarding those who may not necessarily be at the same standard of living/employment  |
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"I don't bother too much about whether someone has the P word on their profile unless the attitude displayed indicates a snobbery regarding those who may not necessarily be at the same standard of living/employment "
Exactly this. Some people use the word to look down on others, which I dislike. I don't care what job they do, all I'm interested in is if they are presentable, likeable and if I'm attracted. |
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""A profession is something a little more than a job, it is a career for someone that wants to be part of society, who becomes competent in their chosen sector through training; maintains their skills through continuing professional development (CPD); and commits to behaving ethically, to protect the interests of the public."
Discuss............ "
What is there to discuss? This is quite a broad description of professional and the definition has certainly changed over time but all in all its mostly true. The bit about wanting to be part of society is rubbish since whether one likes it or not we are part of society as we take our first breath. All in my professional opinion of course  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"What are we discussing?
Alternative _iew maybe (a lot on here proscribe to) is that a professional is someone who sometimes wears a tie to work so cannot send a face pic??????
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Ah!.....that sort of professional
Shame his tie could end up preventing him from being a professional swinger |
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By *eithoWoman
over a year ago
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Alternative _iew maybe (a lot on here proscribe to) is that a professional is someone who sometimes wears a tie to work so cannot send a face pic??????
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I don't buy this rubbish. The regulatory body of my 'profession' is one of the strictest out there, always on about how we must keep our private lives very private so as not to demean the profession and compromise our integrity.  And yet I'm still on here, sending out face pics. It's just an excuse in many cases. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"What are we discussing?
Alternative _iew maybe (a lot on here proscribe to) is that a professional is someone who sometimes wears a tie to work so cannot send a face pic??????
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My grandad was a dustman and always wore a tie to work. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"So is this a thread about inverted snobbery around the use of professional or a thread about the definition of professional?"
Interested in peoples _iews as being the old lady that I am I was brought up to respect member of "the professions" because they worked hard to gain their qualifications and they had a professional body that ensured they acted in an ethical and professional manner. From the number of messages that claim to be from professionals it seems that anyone who does any sort of paid work is now a professional. The word professional is also used to differentiate between people who play sport for money rather than as amateurs, I think that's where the definition has become blurred  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think most actual professionals don't feel the need to mention it.
Those who do mention it have no idea what professional really means. They just use it to imply some sort of integrity and respectability.
If your job doesn't require you to join a professional body, you're not a professional.
There is a looser meaning about specialist training, but what job these days doesn't involve some sort of training. If that's the case we might as well scrap the word and just use 'employed'. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I think most actual professionals don't feel the need to mention it.
Those who do mention it have no idea what professional really means. They just use it to imply some sort of integrity and respectability.
If your job doesn't require you to join a professional body, you're not a professional.
There is a looser meaning about specialist training, but what job these days doesn't involve some sort of training. If that's the case we might as well scrap the word and just use 'employed'."
Agree, unless you also answer to a professional body as well as an employee its just a job? (Ducks) |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I read the word professional. Think they are probably proud of their job title then don't think about it any more. It neither impresses me nor puts me off. |
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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago
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""A profession is something a little more than a job, it is a career for someone that wants to be part of society, who becomes competent in their chosen sector through training; maintains their skills through continuing professional development (CPD); and commits to behaving ethically, to protect the interests of the public."
Discuss............ "
When back-packing; fruit pickers often described themselves as professionals, same as removalists, more currently I have had taxi drivers describe themselves as professionals. Not taking anything away from anyone in those sectors at all! Though I wouldn't describe them or see job adverts being posted for professional (as above), despite any further training they may have had? |
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"Unless they're a professional clit licker and gspot tickler I couldn't care less
Oops did I lower the tone... 
inbox meltdown alert, be prepared "
Nooo they're too busy doing their tongues and jaw exercises.. |
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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago
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Not worried about somebody being "professional" - in my native language we do not distinguish between professionals and other people trained in a particular line of work anyway -
It is about attraction, chemistry.... but for me there has to be wit and banter and intelligence otherwise I cannot maintain an erect clit  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I would love to be able to refer to myself as a professional, but I only have 30 year's worth of experience, as I don't wear a suit and tie, sit behind a desk and get filthy dirty every day helping people who are unable to help themselves by repairing their properties.
I am not a professional.
Just a mere tradesman
You see I have had discussions regarding your worth in society.
Personally I judge myself like this.
In the event of an apocalyptic eevent,what could I contribute to rebuilding the world in the aftermath.
I see what I can do as very important in that respect.
Same as farmers, doctors, mothers, nurse's, cooks, hunters. And other job's vital to the rebuild.
We can do without solicitors, it experts, accountancy, hr etc.
So while I may not be a professional, neither is a mother or a farmer.
Got nothing else to say really |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think most actual professionals don't feel the need to mention it.
Those who do mention it have no idea what professional really means. They just use it to imply some sort of integrity and respectability.
If your job doesn't require you to join a professional body, you're not a professional.
There is a looser meaning about specialist training, but what job these days doesn't involve some sort of training. If that's the case we might as well scrap the word and just use 'employed'."
In a work context I agree with this. On here, it's not something I really care about - I do seek people with intelligence, ambition and a bit of curiosity about the world, but that's not necessarily synonymous with being a professional. I'm a professional because I have to pay loads of sodding money to a professional body every month to be allowed to call myself qualified, but that has no relevance to my profile on here so it's not a word I'd use. I don't wear a tie though |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Good point. Although I hope that is directed more at those who claim to be professionals though not, because its those actions which devalue tradesmens skills, rather than genuine professionals.
Teachers and medical professionals, though professionals, will fit into your post apocalyptic usefulness scenario too. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I think its quite naive to think we won't need professionals post apocalypse. Yes we will need skilled artisans of course, but we will need doctors,midwives, nurses, architects (no point building something unless it will stay upright and function), surveyors (ditto) and accountants (do we have the resources, is it a good way to spend our recourses?). Eventually we would as well need lawyers to mediate in disputes, judges to make laws and police to uphold laws. Pretty much what we have now we will need post apocalypse |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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We describe ourselves as professionals because we are. The fact it pisses off people that we likely have no in is just a bonus.
The inverted snobbery in these threads is as hilarious as the threads are frequent. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think its quite naive to think we won't need professionals post apocalypse. Yes we will need skilled artisans of course, but we will need doctors,midwives, nurses, architects (no point building something unless it will stay upright and function), surveyors (ditto) and accountants (do we have the resources, is it a good way to spend our recourses?). Eventually we would as well need lawyers to mediate in disputes, judges to make laws and police to uphold laws. Pretty much what we have now we will need post apocalypse "
You wouldn't need me in the immediate aftermath of an apocalypse (although I'm sure I could help kill zombies, or make cups of tea or something), but sooner or later you'd wish I was there |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think most actual professionals don't feel the need to mention it.
Those who do mention it have no idea what professional really means. They just use it to imply some sort of integrity and respectability."
Exactly this.
I used to be an Amateur film maker, but am now a professional as I now get paid for my work.
The classic example is Torvill and Dean.
When they won gold with the Bolero, they were amateurs - as was the criteria for competing in the Olympics back then.
Following their success, they turned professional.
Neither I nor they changed in any way as people |
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By (user no longer on site)
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So far I have seen no real snobbery, inverted or otherwise. I think your opinion has coloured your perceptions of the thread.
And to the op, certainly post apocalypse, its useful to have certain skills and to be able to rebuild certain structures and systems, rather than start from scratch.
However the more immediate concerns would be met by trades, 'skilled workers' and also by the unskilled graft of all the survivors, regardless of the occipations we each had pre apocalypse.
Perhaps some areas of society would be better built from scratch though, to avoid repeating the same mistakes. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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""A profession is something a little more than a job, it is a career for someone that wants to be part of society, who becomes competent in their chosen sector through training; maintains their skills through continuing professional development (CPD); and commits to behaving ethically, to protect the interests of the public."
Discuss............ "
Yes - all correct |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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""A profession is something a little more than a job, it is a career for someone that wants to be part of society, who becomes competent in their chosen sector through training; maintains their skills through continuing professional development (CPD); and commits to behaving ethically, to protect the interests of the public."
Discuss............
Yes - all correct "
And as it should be |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Exactly this.
I used to be an Amateur film maker, but am now a professional as I now get paid for my work.
The classic example is Torvill and Dean.
When they won gold with the Bolero, they were amateurs - as was the criteria for competing in the Olympics back then.
Following their success, they turned professional.
Neither I nor they changed in any way as people"
Actually I meant almost the exact opposite of that. The sporting professional vs amateur is a different meaning. In these cases they have moved from paid from prize money to employed/funded.
As a professional film maker, who pays you, do you have an employer, or are you commissioned work and self employed? |
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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago
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"A bit heavy for tea time 
Sorry will post a big tits/small tits thread tomorrow xxxx"
I've had my tea, so I'm feeling more up for this, now.
I think you get more professional as you spend time in a job, learning the tricks. However, you can become very blasé about it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Exactly this.
I used to be an Amateur film maker, but am now a professional as I now get paid for my work.
The classic example is Torvill and Dean.
When they won gold with the Bolero, they were amateurs - as was the criteria for competing in the Olympics back then.
Following their success, they turned professional.
Neither I nor they changed in any way as people
Actually I meant almost the exact opposite of that. The sporting professional vs amateur is a different meaning. In these cases they have moved from paid from prize money to employed/funded.
As a professional film maker, who pays you, do you have an employer, or are you commissioned work and self employed?"
Self Employed |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I like it when a professional man behaves unprofessional towards me in bed
Now you're talking "
Especially a doctor,they know how to give the best internals and there's something very sexy when he says you have a lovely vagina my dear |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I understand it as having worked to a set educational standard (usually degree level and higher) to have reached a certain height in their chosen career, ie Doctor, Nurse, Teacher, Solicitor, traditionally people held in high esteem and in positions of authority.
I find those who have to tell you they are professionals are generally just professional twats and the rest of us are just mere plebs...including the millionaire footballers! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I understand it as having worked to a set educational standard (usually degree level and higher) to have reached a certain height in their chosen career, ie Doctor, Nurse, Teacher, Solicitor, traditionally people held in high esteem and in positions of authority.
I find those who have to tell you they are professionals are generally just professional twats and the rest of us are just mere plebs...including the millionaire footballers! "
Ha ha bang on |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I tend to assume people use 'professional' to mean 'not a dole bludger'.
I'm a secretary and have been for 18 years. Does that make me a professional?
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Own my own business...cant be arsed with lowly professionals |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I understand it as having worked to a set educational standard (usually degree level and higher) to have reached a certain height in their chosen career, ie Doctor, Nurse, Teacher, Solicitor, traditionally people held in high esteem and in positions of authority.
I find those who have to tell you they are professionals are generally just professional twats and the rest of us are just mere plebs...including the millionaire footballers! "
Experience doesn't equal Professional.
Degree qualifications do.
Years in a job mean just that - years.
Professional is something different entirely.
It doesn't mean better though. My OH is 'middle class' and a Teacher, I'm 'lowly working class' but guess who has the upper hand in our relationship
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By (user no longer on site)
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""A profession is something a little more than a job, it is a career for someone that wants to be part of society, who becomes competent in their chosen sector through training; maintains their skills through continuing professional development (CPD); and commits to behaving ethically, to protect the interests of the public."
Discuss............ "
A profession is a vocation founded upon specialized educational training, the purpose of which is to supply objective counsel and service to others, for a direct and definite compensation.
Yep, I was professional. However, after 26 years, I have reverted to unemployment for a change |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I like it when a professional man behaves unprofessional towards me in bed
Now you're talking
Especially a doctor,they know how to give the best internals and there's something very sexy when he says you have a lovely vagina my dear "
I do like surgical scrubs too |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Exactly this.
I used to be an Amateur film maker, but am now a professional as I now get paid for my work.
The classic example is Torvill and Dean.
When they won gold with the Bolero, they were amateurs - as was the criteria for competing in the Olympics back then.
Following their success, they turned professional.
Neither I nor they changed in any way as people
Actually I meant almost the exact opposite of that. The sporting professional vs amateur is a different meaning. In these cases they have moved from paid from prize money to employed/funded.
As a professional film maker, who pays you, do you have an employer, or are you commissioned work and self employed?
Self Employed"
As far as I am aware there is no professional body for those who are self employed, perhaps architects and similar, but not in creative industries. So you may well be a professional as opposed to an amateur, but like sporting professionals, thus is a different meaning to being a member if a profession.
No disrespect intended to anyone creative, even amateurs.
When signing a passport photo, non related 'professionals peope' are required to verify it is genuine. This is not only due to the standards that professionals are supposed to uphold, but for many crimes, professionals can be struck off by their professional body, even if they are unrelated to the profession. This is not to say that professionals do not have those qualities, just that there is no obligation to from their employment.
No disrespect intended to anyone not in a profession, plumbing, building, mechanics, electricians are all highly skilled people doing very valued trades.
But getting 'Susan from sales' to sign your passport will likely result in it being sent back. |
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"So is this a thread about inverted snobbery around the use of professional or a thread about the definition of professional?
Interested in peoples _iews as being the old lady that I am I was brought up to respect member of "the professions" because they worked hard to gain their qualifications and they had a professional body that ensured they acted in an ethical and professional manner. From the number of messages that claim to be from professionals it seems that anyone who does any sort of paid work is now a professional. The word professional is also used to differentiate between people who play sport for money rather than as amateurs, I think that's where the definition has become blurred "
I'm of a similar vintage and always thought of professionals as medical practitioners, legal practitioners etc and I agree the definition has broadened to include many more careers. I don't think it's a bad thing just a development |
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