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"What do I mean by Orgasm on command training you might ask if you haven't heard this before. it is the ability for the women to orgasm at their doms/partners command be it spoken, gesture or from a distance by text or email. I first saw an example of this at a kinky party I held from one of my Guests you know who you are Mr and a most lovely well trained submissive who came on his command (great evening was had by all) I was intrigued and looked into this further before starting training with my own little misses and after having some great success with orgasm on command training with my little misses I tried the training on others at there request to great success. When say orgasm on command I don't mean commanding "I would like you to cum" and you spend 5 minutes playing with your self to achieve orgasm I mean I give the command for you to come and you orgasm instantly with out touching or stimulation other than the command given. Their are different kinds of orgasm that are achievable once the initial training has taken place and they respond to the command, these vary from clitoral, vaginal, anal and full body orgasms. once the individual is responding to the training it is possible to mix and match the orgasms to make different options like having all 4 of the individual orgasms happen at once so the submissive is in orgasmic rapture as everything explodes. As every Submissive is different I have found that the effects can different some pick it up really quickly and are able to learn to differentiate the orgasms into different commands some respond to the training but I guess there will be submissive that will not respond still looking for the later as so far had great results. The commands can be anything a sound, a look, a gesture, a click of the fingers or a tap n the small of the neck as long as the submissive learns this is the command that is being used for the desired orgasm then it will work. I have found that with great pleasure that a spoken word can be used in text to obtain the orgasm from a submissive without being present. as long as the submissive knows that the command words may not just be spoken but also in a text the submissive should respond accordingly. With a few special submissives I have been able to give time delay commands so that after 60 breaths they will experience the orgasm so that should they be in company or work that they have time to control there breathing an make it a safe place to orgasm. after all you wouldn't want your submissive to get sacked for screaming out in pleasure sat at their desk or where they work. this is also for safety reasons if the submissive is driving they need time to pull over and the time delay of 60 breaths can give them 2 - 5 minutes easy if the submissive controls there breathing. the time delay command also heightens the orgasm as they know it is coming and so tends to explode with more vigour. In learning the technique to teach a submissive this command I found after trial and error a way to make more submissives achieve and orgasm on command and it works rather affective I have even successfully trained a lady (who after speaking to her is a switch as we would call her on here with her regular partners not full submissive, as she is not in the kinky scene but saw Sirslittlemiss demonstrating it and was amazed and asked me to teach her) her training took place over Skype and in the hour and half while we were online she was left with 4 separate commands that she loves as it means that certain people she wants can now text her any time and make her cum as requested by text. I must point out the speed that this skill is learned is down to the submissive the fastest ever being a 4 and half minute phone call which the lady was expecting and so more than a little horny but didn't know before the call I was going to try and see if it would work but agreed when I asked would she like to se if she could learn this was followed up by a few hours on Skype to bring her different commands into affect. Her favourite command that she liked was best was a time delay but instead of 60 breaths it was a slow burning orgasm that started with a tickling sensation on the end of chin that wold slowly work its way down her neck and then spiral to her left nipple around her tit before spiralling in reverse to the other nipple and then down across her belly where her clit and pussy would get all warm and fuzzy and then start to build with each breath she took till she came. also the slow build up let her enjoy it where as the other orgasms can be instant without build up just like someone flicking a light switch as she described the sensation to me afterwards instant orgasm no build up just whole body tensed and woosh as she came. With any gift like this power means responsibility as it can be great fun when your out and about and physical play is not possible, but during conversation in the presence of others the commands can be given without any one noticing and the submissive will react. they will do their best to hide the pleasure they are feeling or with a time delayed command excuse them selves to the ladies room and enjoy in private or if your feeling a little play stood in the queue at the shops can be immensely satisfying as no ones but the two of you what is happening. I guess in theory the training should work for a male sub but not having tried the training on a male Sub I cant say for sure! I'm always looking for more females to share this training with if any are interested in learning or any Dom's would like there submissives to learn then please feel free to get in touch" So basically you are saying I would orgasm more quickly than the time it took me to read your post? | |||
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"I was in the process of learning this and was quite receptive to it. The Dom assigned different sensations to numbers 1-5 so all he had to say was the number for me to feel that sensation. Was quite good fun until he then met someone and fell in love and got married ". I don't get this Dom/sub thing. Why an earth would anyone want to be above somebody else or below them.... Unless we're t talking positions in which case I wanna be under  | |||
"I was in the process of learning this and was quite receptive to it. The Dom assigned different sensations to numbers 1-5 so all he had to say was the number for me to feel that sensation. Was quite good fun until he then met someone and fell in love and got married .
I don't get this Dom/sub thing.
Why an earth would anyone want to be above somebody else or below them.... Unless we're t talking positions in which case I wanna be under "We can't get everything in the world. It's just a different attitude. I never saw myself as below him but I would submit to him. | |||
Would love to meet someone who can control my body like that. Not you though OP  hehe x | |||
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"I know this type of conditioning is possible but in a four and a half minute 'phone call? Sorry, I don't believe you. I'm very dubious it could be achieved over Skype either." Sorry post above this was for you about believing | |||
" So basically you are saying I would orgasm more quickly than the time it took me to read your post? " Yes you would of. If i picked raspberries as the word by the time the s on the end left my lips your body would already be having the orgasm. Im rely to each in turn please be patient private message for honest enquiries about training please | |||
"Basically NLP/Hypnosis." No pavilion training and conditioning a response is rewarded with pleasure the brain association between that word and the pleasure remove correct stimuli the brain respond with pleasure from just word. There are many different ways but this proves the most effective. As the person is fully aware of what is going on no hypnosis no listen my voice your feeling sleepy look at the watch rubbish. | |||
"I was in the process of learning this and was quite receptive to it. The Dom assigned different sensations to numbers 1-5 so all he had to say was the number for me to feel that sensation. Was quite good fun until he then met someone and fell in love and got married .
I don't get this Dom/sub thing.
Why an earth would anyone want to be above somebody else or below them.... Unless we're t talking positions in which case I wanna be under "I'm so disappointed in your Sir for just up and leaving. Hopefully you will have found a new better one since. You can always try furthering your training so that your happy with being the best you that can be for you. | |||
"If this works then blow me down I'd happily turn sub. Where do I sign ? Mrs L" Applications via inbox | |||
"Basically NLP/Hypnosis. No pavilion training and conditioning a response is rewarded with pleasure the brain association between that word and the pleasure remove correct stimuli the brain respond with pleasure from just word. There are many different ways but this proves the most effective. As the person is fully aware of what is going on no hypnosis no listen my voice your feeling sleepy look at the watch rubbish. " If thats what you think hypnosis is then you are very ill informed and one to stay away from! | |||
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"Does anyone else find this sort of control over another human being worrying? "no | |||
"Does anyone else find this sort of control over another human being worrying? "Only when it is non-consensual. | |||
"I'd be interested in this "
Me too | |||
"For the girls who like the sound of this, have a look for "directed erotic visualisation" online. I have listened to it a bit - it is like hypnosis and weirdly it does make me cum without anyone touching me. It's also changed me when I do play - my orgasms seem to be more intense now? It's fun to try it. Well.. I enjoyed it. "Thanks for link! Will have a browse later  | |||
"Does anyone else find this sort of control over another human being worrying? "Not if all parties are in full understanding and consenting . | |||
"I know this type of conditioning is possible but in a four and a half minute 'phone call? Sorry, I don't believe you. I'm very dubious it could be achieved over Skype either. Sorry post above this was for you about believing " I know someone else who carries out this type of training. Based on that knowledge, I'm confident it can't be done in under 5 minutes by telephone. You're free to believe and claim otherwise but we'll have to agree to differ on that part of your claim. | |||
"Does anyone else find this sort of control over another human being worrying?
Only when it is non-consensual. "But surely after "conditioning" it is non-consensual?  | |||
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"I was in the process of learning this and was quite receptive to it. The Dom assigned different sensations to numbers 1-5 so all he had to say was the number for me to feel that sensation. Was quite good fun until he then met someone and fell in love and got married .
I don't get this Dom/sub thing.
Why an earth would anyone want to be above somebody else or below them.... Unless we're t talking positions in which case I wanna be under "It's a different level of trust between a dom and submissive the because of the nature of some of the play. Some people like to do as they are asked as they know they are giving the other person exactly the pleasure they want knowing they will be rewarded for there efforts knowing there appreciated and there efforts mean something because they need that. Other just like being a dirty girl and doing what ever they are asked because that way they where asked to do it they don't have to feel guilty out anything they just enjoy being what ever Sir thinks is best for them. Because being the best they can be for them selves means being the best for someone else to feel complete. This is just the most simple explication. You don't have to be a submissive to cum when commanded | |||
"Does anyone else find this sort of control over another human being worrying? "It's only possible when the controlled party is willing and open to it. Exerting mental control to the point of bringing about a physical reaction in someone unwilling is no easy task. It takes intense, long-term conditioning and may not be possible at all, depending on the subject. Even in successfully trained subjects, just deciding they no longer want to be controlled can break the training. Hypnosis won't work on a subject that is resisting relinquishing control either. | |||
"Only one guy has ever made me cum. So I very much doubt this would work for me!
Would love to meet someone who can control my body like that. Not you though OP hehe x"Your welcome no offence taken. Try it find the man who can own you the way you want. I'm not a pretty boy but then a pretty boy doesn't have the experience and training I've spent 20 years fine tuning for the pleasure of those i train. | |||
"Does anyone else find this sort of control over another human being worrying?
Only when it is non-consensual.
But surely after "conditioning" it is non-consensual? "I don't know enough to give a definitive answer but I am led to believe that if the person being "conditioned" is unwilling or doesn't want to continue once they have been trained, they can quite easily break from the conditioning. I find it a fascinating subject. I'm sure that the person must be willing for it to be effective. | |||
"Does anyone else find this sort of control over another human being worrying?
It's only possible when the controlled party is willing and open to it.
Exerting mental control to the point of bringing about a physical reaction in someone unwilling is no easy task. It takes intense, long-term conditioning and may not be possible at all, depending on the subject.
Even in successfully trained subjects, just deciding they no longer want to be controlled can break the training.
Hypnosis won't work on a subject that is resisting relinquishing control either."But if this works best on subs then are they going to have the strength of character to stop? I can imagine a woman in an important meeting about, say, child abuse, glancing at her phone and seeing "Cum now slut!" and she starts to orgasm. That is weird and scary and hardly consensual. It just seems fraught with dangers but if that is what some want so be it. | |||
"For the girls who like the sound of this, have a look for "directed erotic visualisation" online. I have listened to it a bit - it is like hypnosis and weirdly it does make me cum without anyone touching me. It's also changed me when I do play - my orgasms seem to be more intense now? It's fun to try it. Well.. I enjoyed it. "Glad you find something that works for you. These are using basic self hypnosis to allow you to feel more to reduce our side distractions and focus on the pleasure. Once your brain unstands it can cum easier stronger as it has find something new and learns these new things like learning to speak a didn't language your brain learns that is possible you find you cum harder because you can focus on it and make it stronger yourself. | |||
"I was in the process of learning this and was quite receptive to it. The Dom assigned different sensations to numbers 1-5 so all he had to say was the number for me to feel that sensation. Was quite good fun until he then met someone and fell in love and got married .
I don't get this Dom/sub thing.
Why an earth would anyone want to be above somebody else or below them.... Unless we're t talking positions in which case I wanna be under
It's a different level of trust between a dom and submissive the because of the nature of some of the play. Some people like to do as they are asked as they know they are giving the other person exactly the pleasure they want knowing they will be rewarded for there efforts knowing there appreciated and there efforts mean something because they need that.
Other just like being a dirty girl and doing what ever they are asked because that way they where asked to do it they don't have to feel guilty out anything they just enjoy being what ever Sir thinks is best for them. Because being the best they can be for them selves means being the best for someone else to feel complete. This is just the most simple explication. You don't have to be a submissive to cum when commanded "A good sub Dom relationship is built on total trust so that the sub can give up control without worry and enjoy the experience. | |||
"Does anyone else find this sort of control over another human being worrying?
It's only possible when the controlled party is willing and open to it.
Exerting mental control to the point of bringing about a physical reaction in someone unwilling is no easy task. It takes intense, long-term conditioning and may not be possible at all, depending on the subject.
Even in successfully trained subjects, just deciding they no longer want to be controlled can break the training.
Hypnosis won't work on a subject that is resisting relinquishing control either.
But if this works best on subs then are they going to have the strength of character to stop?
I can imagine a woman in an important meeting about, say, child abuse, glancing at her phone and seeing "Cum now slut!" and she starts to orgasm. That is weird and scary and hardly consensual. It just seems fraught with dangers but if that is what some want so be it. "Sub does not mean weak. Far from it. Most of the subs I know are very strong people. If a sub consents to this training, it would generally be understood that the controlling party would use the power responsibly, which would mean not messaging when the controlled party might be in an important meeting. | |||
"Does anyone else find this sort of control over another human being worrying?
It's only possible when the controlled party is willing and open to it.
Exerting mental control to the point of bringing about a physical reaction in someone unwilling is no easy task. It takes intense, long-term conditioning and may not be possible at all, depending on the subject.
Even in successfully trained subjects, just deciding they no longer want to be controlled can break the training.
Hypnosis won't work on a subject that is resisting relinquishing control either.
But if this works best on subs then are they going to have the strength of character to stop?
I can imagine a woman in an important meeting about, say, child abuse, glancing at her phone and seeing "Cum now slut!" and she starts to orgasm. That is weird and scary and hardly consensual. It just seems fraught with dangers but if that is what some want so be it.
Sub does not mean weak. Far from it. Most of the subs I know are very strong people.
If a sub consents to this training, it would generally be understood that the controlling party would use the power responsibly, which would mean not messaging when the controlled party might be in an important meeting." | |||
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"Does anyone else find this sort of control over another human being worrying?
It's only possible when the controlled party is willing and open to it.
Exerting mental control to the point of bringing about a physical reaction in someone unwilling is no easy task. It takes intense, long-term conditioning and may not be possible at all, depending on the subject.
Even in successfully trained subjects, just deciding they no longer want to be controlled can break the training.
Hypnosis won't work on a subject that is resisting relinquishing control either."Hypnosis yes but as I've said not Hypnosis simple i show you how to reach a better stronger orgasm and that is achievable once you know how instantly. Till you learned to walk as a child it was impossible to think you could walk. Or using mobile smart phone for the older people it looks confusing and impossible yet half hour being shown there away with face book before you know it. Is simply training you teach your self a new way to think about it and it works. | |||
"I would love to train Scarlett in this. She is quite receptive to new things so I might look into it. She loves orgasm denial, which we practice as much as possible. As long as it doesn't end up that the only way she can orgasm is by my verbal or text command. "Your welcome to come learn how with scarlet so that your words are her commands and you can go home carry on training till like little miss and the others can enjoy your pleasure when ever you grant it for her. Plus see just where you both can take it. Pm me if your interested in talking further | |||
"Does anyone else find this sort of control over another human being worrying?
It's only possible when the controlled party is willing and open to it.
Exerting mental control to the point of bringing about a physical reaction in someone unwilling is no easy task. It takes intense, long-term conditioning and may not be possible at all, depending on the subject.
Even in successfully trained subjects, just deciding they no longer want to be controlled can break the training.
Hypnosis won't work on a subject that is resisting relinquishing control either.
But if this works best on subs then are they going to have the strength of character to stop?
I can imagine a woman in an important meeting about, say, child abuse, glancing at her phone and seeing "Cum now slut!" and she starts to orgasm. That is weird and scary and hardly consensual. It just seems fraught with dangers but if that is what some want so be it. "firstly i would hope anyone in a meeting about child abuse is focusing on the content of the meeting and not their phone  and secondly subs are not weak willed people with no strength of character. That is a big misconception. | |||
"Does anyone else find this sort of control over another human being worrying?
It's only possible when the controlled party is willing and open to it.
Exerting mental control to the point of bringing about a physical reaction in someone unwilling is no easy task. It takes intense, long-term conditioning and may not be possible at all, depending on the subject.
Even in successfully trained subjects, just deciding they no longer want to be controlled can break the training.
Hypnosis won't work on a subject that is resisting relinquishing control either.
But if this works best on subs then are they going to have the strength of character to stop?
I can imagine a woman in an important meeting about, say, child abuse, glancing at her phone and seeing "Cum now slut!" and she starts to orgasm. That is weird and scary and hardly consensual. It just seems fraught with dangers but if that is what some want so be it.
Sub does not mean weak. Far from it. Most of the subs I know are very strong people.
If a sub consents to this training, it would generally be understood that the controlling party would use the power responsibly, which would mean not messaging when the controlled party might be in an important meeting."Perhaps "strength" per se is not the right word. If they are being controlled, because they want to be controlled, then why will they break what they crave and not do what they are told? Surely the essence of being a sub is doing things you would not normally do because the Dom has instructed you to do it? I can understand the Dom being responsible but the situation is open to serious risk if this is done by phone or text. It is playing Russian roulette with your reputation!
(see what I did there? Got RR into the mix. Fab cliche No. 4) | |||
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"I was in the process of learning this and was quite receptive to it. The Dom assigned different sensations to numbers 1-5 so all he had to say was the number for me to feel that sensation. Was quite good fun until he then met someone and fell in love and got married .
I don't get this Dom/sub thing.
Why an earth would anyone want to be above somebody else or below them.... Unless we're t talking positions in which case I wanna be under
It's a different level of trust between a dom and submissive the because of the nature of some of the play. Some people like to do as they are asked as they know they are giving the other person exactly the pleasure they want knowing they will be rewarded for there efforts knowing there appreciated and there efforts mean something because they need that.
Other just like being a dirty girl and doing what ever they are asked because that way they where asked to do it they don't have to feel guilty out anything they just enjoy being what ever Sir thinks is best for them. Because being the best they can be for them selves means being the best for someone else to feel complete. This is just the most simple explication. You don't have to be a submissive to cum when commanded
A good sub Dom relationship is built on total trust so that the sub can give up control without worry and enjoy the experience. "Well said miss. The trust that a dom has in a sub to be honest and truthful at all times expecially during play because the dominant male or female needs to trust the sub and so the sub can trust them that they will always have the best interested at heart that no lasting harm will come to them during a spanking or any other play. Especially with Bondage. | |||
"It's a basic stimulus/response technique, similar to that used for breaking a phobia. " Very similar plus some of the tantric training over controlling the pleasure to make it last or more intense. | |||
"Does anyone else find this sort of control over another human being worrying?
It's only possible when the controlled party is willing and open to it.
Exerting mental control to the point of bringing about a physical reaction in someone unwilling is no easy task. It takes intense, long-term conditioning and may not be possible at all, depending on the subject.
Even in successfully trained subjects, just deciding they no longer want to be controlled can break the training.
Hypnosis won't work on a subject that is resisting relinquishing control either.
Hypnosis yes but as I've said not Hypnosis simple i show you how to reach a better stronger orgasm and that is achievable once you know how instantly.
Till you learned to walk as a child it was impossible to think you could walk. Or using mobile smart phone for the older people it looks confusing and impossible yet half hour being shown there away with face book before you know it.
Is simply training you teach your self a new way to think about it and it works. "Like I said, this won't work unless the trainee wants it and is open to it. Hypnosis was mentioned as another example of control which won't work unless you're open to it and want it. If you re-read my post, I clearly say hypnosis is _also_ a method that won't work unless you want it to. It was in response to the fear that this could be non-consensual and abused, to make the point that the subject must be willing. | |||
"Does anyone else find this sort of control over another human being worrying?
It's only possible when the controlled party is willing and open to it.
Exerting mental control to the point of bringing about a physical reaction in someone unwilling is no easy task. It takes intense, long-term conditioning and may not be possible at all, depending on the subject.
Even in successfully trained subjects, just deciding they no longer want to be controlled can break the training.
Hypnosis won't work on a subject that is resisting relinquishing control either.
But if this works best on subs then are they going to have the strength of character to stop?
I can imagine a woman in an important meeting about, say, child abuse, glancing at her phone and seeing "Cum now slut!" and she starts to orgasm. That is weird and scary and hardly consensual. It just seems fraught with dangers but if that is what some want so be it.
firstly i would hope anyone in a meeting about child abuse is focusing on the content of the meeting and not their phone and secondly subs are not weak willed people with no strength of character. That is a big misconception."Ah, so if a sub got the "cum now" text, and it was not appropriate, they would not cum? | |||
"Does anyone else find this sort of control over another human being worrying?
It's only possible when the controlled party is willing and open to it.
Exerting mental control to the point of bringing about a physical reaction in someone unwilling is no easy task. It takes intense, long-term conditioning and may not be possible at all, depending on the subject.
Even in successfully trained subjects, just deciding they no longer want to be controlled can break the training.
Hypnosis won't work on a subject that is resisting relinquishing control either.
But if this works best on subs then are they going to have the strength of character to stop?
I can imagine a woman in an important meeting about, say, child abuse, glancing at her phone and seeing "Cum now slut!" and she starts to orgasm. That is weird and scary and hardly consensual. It just seems fraught with dangers but if that is what some want so be it.
Sub does not mean weak. Far from it. Most of the subs I know are very strong people.
If a sub consents to this training, it would generally be understood that the controlling party would use the power responsibly, which would mean not messaging when the controlled party might be in an important meeting.
Perhaps "strength" per se is not the right word. If they are being controlled, because they want to be controlled, then why will they break what they crave and not do what they are told?
Surely the essence of being a sub is doing things you would not normally do because the Dom has instructed you to do it?
I can understand the Dom being responsible but the situation is open to serious risk if this is done by phone or text. It is playing Russian roulette with your reputation!
(see what I did there? Got RR into the mix. Fab cliche No. 4) "As no hypnosis is involved at worst the girl/guy as males have been taught by mistresses I've trained in the art. Is like a learning to ride a bike you can stop at any point nothings changed other than that you tried and enjoyed a few orgasms while trying. So the Russian roulette i doubt more like a wet tshirt contest as she's gonna get wet she's gonna cum if she land the techniques then she'll come again of not she had done great fun trying. I've not yet one that came for training leave without a smile on there faces | |||
"Does anyone else find this sort of control over another human being worrying?
It's only possible when the controlled party is willing and open to it.
Exerting mental control to the point of bringing about a physical reaction in someone unwilling is no easy task. It takes intense, long-term conditioning and may not be possible at all, depending on the subject.
Even in successfully trained subjects, just deciding they no longer want to be controlled can break the training.
Hypnosis won't work on a subject that is resisting relinquishing control either.
But if this works best on subs then are they going to have the strength of character to stop?
I can imagine a woman in an important meeting about, say, child abuse, glancing at her phone and seeing "Cum now slut!" and she starts to orgasm. That is weird and scary and hardly consensual. It just seems fraught with dangers but if that is what some want so be it.
Sub does not mean weak. Far from it. Most of the subs I know are very strong people.
If a sub consents to this training, it would generally be understood that the controlling party would use the power responsibly, which would mean not messaging when the controlled party might be in an important meeting.
Perhaps "strength" per se is not the right word. If they are being controlled, because they want to be controlled, then why will they break what they crave and not do what they are told?
Surely the essence of being a sub is doing things you would not normally do because the Dom has instructed you to do it?
I can understand the Dom being responsible but the situation is open to serious risk if this is done by phone or text. It is playing Russian roulette with your reputation!
(see what I did there? Got RR into the mix. Fab cliche No. 4) "I don't understand what you're asking. You expressed concern about the control. I pointed out it has to be consensual. If it's consensual then no, the subject won't want to break it. They want it so why would they? If it wasn't consensual and the subject didn't want it then it would be easy enough to break. I don't understand why you'd think a consenting subject would want to resist it? | |||
"I was in the process of learning this and was quite receptive to it. The Dom assigned different sensations to numbers 1-5 so all he had to say was the number for me to feel that sensation. Was quite good fun until he then met someone and fell in love and got married .
I don't get this Dom/sub thing.
Why an earth would anyone want to be above somebody else or below them.... Unless we're t talking positions in which case I wanna be under
It's a different level of trust between a dom and submissive the because of the nature of some of the play. Some people like to do as they are asked as they know they are giving the other person exactly the pleasure they want knowing they will be rewarded for there efforts knowing there appreciated and there efforts mean something because they need that.
Other just like being a dirty girl and doing what ever they are asked because that way they where asked to do it they don't have to feel guilty out anything they just enjoy being what ever Sir thinks is best for them. Because being the best they can be for them selves means being the best for someone else to feel complete. This is just the most simple explication. You don't have to be a submissive to cum when commanded
A good sub Dom relationship is built on total trust so that the sub can give up control without worry and enjoy the experience.
Well said miss. The trust that a dom has in a sub to be honest and truthful at all times expecially during play because the dominant male or female needs to trust the sub and so the sub can trust them that they will always have the best interested at heart that no lasting harm will come to them during a spanking or any other play. Especially with Bondage. " | |||
"Does anyone else find this sort of control over another human being worrying?
It's only possible when the controlled party is willing and open to it.
Exerting mental control to the point of bringing about a physical reaction in someone unwilling is no easy task. It takes intense, long-term conditioning and may not be possible at all, depending on the subject.
Even in successfully trained subjects, just deciding they no longer want to be controlled can break the training.
Hypnosis won't work on a subject that is resisting relinquishing control either.
But if this works best on subs then are they going to have the strength of character to stop?
I can imagine a woman in an important meeting about, say, child abuse, glancing at her phone and seeing "Cum now slut!" and she starts to orgasm. That is weird and scary and hardly consensual. It just seems fraught with dangers but if that is what some want so be it.
firstly i would hope anyone in a meeting about child abuse is focusing on the content of the meeting and not their phone and secondly subs are not weak willed people with no strength of character. That is a big misconception."Your examples a little extreme the woman gives her command words to her partner they are responsible for for how they respond some are taught like little miss to have a 60 breath timer so a toilet brake is requested and they leave a meeting should they wish. Some would enjoy that they can come in a room full of people because they have been told to. Personally all nspcc workers are not allowed to take phones in to meeting concerning child abuse cases because of the confidential nature of the cases involved. If your quite finished with the scary scenarios that no serve no point other than being silly. This is a little something extra a woman can learn to enjoy herself and her partner more. How it is used is down to the people involved. Im happy to discuss this that's why I'm answering all questions in turn out trying to lol | |||
"Does anyone else find this sort of control over another human being worrying?
It's only possible when the controlled party is willing and open to it.
Exerting mental control to the point of bringing about a physical reaction in someone unwilling is no easy task. It takes intense, long-term conditioning and may not be possible at all, depending on the subject.
Even in successfully trained subjects, just deciding they no longer want to be controlled can break the training.
Hypnosis won't work on a subject that is resisting relinquishing control either.
But if this works best on subs then are they going to have the strength of character to stop?
I can imagine a woman in an important meeting about, say, child abuse, glancing at her phone and seeing "Cum now slut!" and she starts to orgasm. That is weird and scary and hardly consensual. It just seems fraught with dangers but if that is what some want so be it.
firstly i would hope anyone in a meeting about child abuse is focusing on the content of the meeting and not their phone and secondly subs are not weak willed people with no strength of character. That is a big misconception.
Ah, so if a sub got the "cum now" text, and it was not appropriate, they would not cum? "no, they would cum but i'm guessing it wouldnt be a when harry met sally moment lol one of the numbers i was assigned was to cum quietly. With all of this there is an element of trust between the Dom and the sub and an element of respect from the Dom to the sub to not use the commands at a time that would cause embarrassment or, in your example, issues with ther work life. | |||
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"Does anyone else find this sort of control over another human being worrying?
It's only possible when the controlled party is willing and open to it.
Exerting mental control to the point of bringing about a physical reaction in someone unwilling is no easy task. It takes intense, long-term conditioning and may not be possible at all, depending on the subject.
Even in successfully trained subjects, just deciding they no longer want to be controlled can break the training.
Hypnosis won't work on a subject that is resisting relinquishing control either.
But if this works best on subs then are they going to have the strength of character to stop?
I can imagine a woman in an important meeting about, say, child abuse, glancing at her phone and seeing "Cum now slut!" and she starts to orgasm. That is weird and scary and hardly consensual. It just seems fraught with dangers but if that is what some want so be it.
firstly i would hope anyone in a meeting about child abuse is focusing on the content of the meeting and not their phone and secondly subs are not weak willed people with no strength of character. That is a big misconception.
Ah, so if a sub got the "cum now" text, and it was not appropriate, they would not cum?
no, they would cum but i'm guessing it wouldnt be a when harry met sally moment lol one of the numbers i was assigned was to cum quietly. With all of this there is an element of trust between the Dom and the sub and an element of respect from the Dom to the sub to not use the commands at a time that would cause embarrassment or, in your example, issues with ther work life."You cannot make a person do something that don't want to, something that will cut across a value, even in deep hypnosis. There is a brilliant case study with Milton Erickson with highlights this.  | |||
"Does anyone else find this sort of control over another human being worrying?
It's only possible when the controlled party is willing and open to it.
Exerting mental control to the point of bringing about a physical reaction in someone unwilling is no easy task. It takes intense, long-term conditioning and may not be possible at all, depending on the subject.
Even in successfully trained subjects, just deciding they no longer want to be controlled can break the training.
Hypnosis won't work on a subject that is resisting relinquishing control either.
But if this works best on subs then are they going to have the strength of character to stop?
I can imagine a woman in an important meeting about, say, child abuse, glancing at her phone and seeing "Cum now slut!" and she starts to orgasm. That is weird and scary and hardly consensual. It just seems fraught with dangers but if that is what some want so be it.
firstly i would hope anyone in a meeting about child abuse is focusing on the content of the meeting and not their phone and secondly subs are not weak willed people with no strength of character. That is a big misconception.
Ah, so if a sub got the "cum now" text, and it was not appropriate, they would not cum?
no, they would cum but i'm guessing it wouldnt be a when harry met sally moment lol one of the numbers i was assigned was to cum quietly. With all of this there is an element of trust between the Dom and the sub and an element of respect from the Dom to the sub to not use the commands at a time that would cause embarrassment or, in your example, issues with ther work life."Exactly not every orgasm had to take the roof some nearly flush the chest and make the pussy twine as it's so gentle | |||
"For the girls who like the sound of this, have a look for "directed erotic visualisation" online. I have listened to it a bit - it is like hypnosis and weirdly it does make me cum without anyone touching me. It's also changed me when I do play - my orgasms seem to be more intense now? It's fun to try it. Well.. I enjoyed it. " sounds like fun. Thanks for the info. | |||
" I don't understand what you're asking. You expressed concern about the control. I pointed out it has to be consensual. If it's consensual then no, the subject won't want to break it. They want it so why would they? If it wasn't consensual and the subject didn't want it then it would be easy enough to break. I don't understand why you'd think a consenting subject would want to resist it?" Maybe I need to put the question another way. I understand that a text, word, touch etc. can make the Sub unconsciously and involuntarily cum because of their conditioning. Is that the case? If the Dom exercised the trigger at a time the Sub did not want it to be exercised, can the sub totally prevent the cum happening? If a Dom and Sub fall out can the Dom still trigger any response from the Sub? | |||
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"Only one guy has ever made me cum. So I very much doubt this would work for me!
Would love to meet someone who can control my body like that. Not you though OP hehe x
Your welcome no offence taken. Try it find the man who can own you the way you want.
I'm not a pretty boy but then a pretty boy doesn't have the experience and training I've spent 20 years fine tuning for the pleasure of those i train. "it was 15 yrs futher up the page? | |||
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" I don't understand what you're asking. You expressed concern about the control. I pointed out it has to be consensual. If it's consensual then no, the subject won't want to break it. They want it so why would they? If it wasn't consensual and the subject didn't want it then it would be easy enough to break. I don't understand why you'd think a consenting subject would want to resist it? Maybe I need to put the question another way. I understand that a text, word, touch etc. can make the Sub unconsciously and involuntarily cum because of their conditioning. Is that the case? If the Dom exercised the trigger at a time the Sub did not want it to be exercised, can the sub totally prevent the cum happening? If a Dom and Sub fall out can the Dom still trigger any response from the Sub? " The sub gives the power to submit and the consensual acceptance that the command works when they revoke the trust and the will to submit the command will not work because they don't trust the person. It's their command thier orgasms each person is different. Little miss can deny a command to say i would rather not then if little miss reason for rather not is viable then little miss will not respond if Sir says other wise then she will respond. Because she understands that Sir must be obeyed. Like i said this is not hypnosis is about better understanding your own body to be able to achieve this by using a few different methods from tantric training to organs denial like i said not hypnosis | |||
"Only one guy has ever made me cum. So I very much doubt this would work for me!
Would love to meet someone who can control my body like that. Not you though OP hehe x
Your welcome no offence taken. Try it find the man who can own you the way you want.
I'm not a pretty boy but then a pretty boy doesn't have the experience and training I've spent 20 years fine tuning for the pleasure of those i train.
it was 15 yrs futher up the page? "I stated i started fine tuning this technique over the lady 15 years. I've been a Dom for over 20 like i Say i saw this happen at a party and i asked the dom to teach me because i still learn new things with each sub i train because every journey into there submission is different some come to learn to be dominate so learn first what it is to submit so that they can truly understand what they will be doing. They understand the trust the there subs will give them they will learn how to Show support aftercare they learn by trying all the kinks they like and ones that of they like that i know will enjoy so that they when training there subs will have empathy so be able to better read the sub and so be able to explain show train them in a way that they learn best to be the best they can be. I wouldn't ask anything of a sub i wouldn't stand there and let some one do to me first when it comes to pain play so that they see it can be done they can see what is happening so they know what to expect. Im asking then to trust me to do it when they should know i wouldn't ask it if i didn't know they knew to safe word amber of its getting to much it red if it's a full stop not easy it back and talk it through before trying again if they are sure to carry on. They trust we know what is right for them. Be that a punishment for an error for a reward for extra effort that was appreciated. In answer to a few of the questions in one go | |||
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"Does anyone else find this sort of control over another human being worrying?
Only when it is non-consensual.
But surely after "conditioning" it is non-consensual? "Does kind of make it sound like a sub is forced to be one doesn't it but I don't think that's what he meant | |||
"I appreciate it's late and all, and that you've taken time to reply, and it is reasonably difficult to explain all the intricacies - though, if they are getting to know you, and you them ... then what you have just said does not fit in to this 5 minutes of conditioning to cum on command. " The 4 n half minutes i refer to is with a sub I've played with before so a level of trust was there she was horny as had not played together in over a year and she had never come for this type of play just for amazing sex but wanted help as he current partner was just not quite getting her where she needed to be and I've if the girls had experience and knowledge so explained what to expect and her trust in my training her in other things she Followed the exercises and picked it up really fast so that on the first command she came then each time it became easier as she understands what her body is doing so doesn't reacted startled it's like hiccups the first one you notice give you a jolt one you realise you stop clenching and just let it happen. Similar here there mind created the pleasure her brain had a hollow where the stimulus should be it goes hold on. Once she learnt that the pleasure didn't always come from the stimulation her brain doesn't have a hollow where the stimulation should be It's accepts that the pleasure can exist in its own and so can be controlled once they learn how. Like i did say not hypnosis is just learning a new skill | |||
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"Where's the joy in that, I want her to cum all over my cock as it slides in and out of her, or to taste her cum as I tease her clit with my lips tongue and fingers, I don't want her cumming in her knickers without my involvement just because I've clicked my fingers. This is exactly why I have no desire to own, control or otherwise a woman outside of the bedroom. I did once train my dog to sit with a treat on his nose though. Eventually got it to about 5 seconds. "I'd last 4 seconds with a bar of chocolate | |||
"I know some people who's partners claimed this was happening. Actually they were faking it. I think most men who claim to be able to do this are either talking shit or just don't realise their partners are faking it." I was thinking the same thing. Women wanting to please a man and play their part. It's like roleplaying to me. Unless they are being hypnotised and to me that doesn't sound particularly satisfying. I want something to happen naturally not in my mind. | |||
"Where's the joy in that, I want her to cum all over my cock as it slides in and out of her, or to taste her cum as I tease her clit with my lips tongue and fingers, I don't want her cumming in her knickers without my involvement just because I've clicked my fingers. This is exactly why I have no desire to own, control or otherwise a woman outside of the bedroom. I did once train my dog to sit with a treat on his nose though. Eventually got it to about 5 seconds. "The joy comes from the power and the need to please. The man wants the power and the woman needs to please him to get her rewards. A kiss from a man can make me have a little o moment. That's more my kind of pleasure | |||
"I know some people who's partners claimed this was happening. Actually they were faking it. I think most men who claim to be able to do this are either talking shit or just don't realise their partners are faking it." I agree. I know of one case in which I'm certain the conditioning is genuine. The Dom is in his 50's and has been training his slave for many years. I've known them both for a long time. I've talked to them at length - I've been to visit them a few times - and I've seen (and tried) his kit. He has several toys which use light, sound and other sensory stimulation to help bring about an altered state of mind. This can be used to make suitable parties more susceptible to conditioning. He's studied various techniques in depth. He'd be the first to tell you it takes time and ongoing training and reinforcement to achieve this type of conditioning. He'd laugh his arse off over the suggestion it could be achieved in four and a half minutes over the 'phone, or by Skype, even with someone you've played with before. I think a lot of Dominants underestimate the extent to which submissives want to please them and how far they'll go to achieve that sometimes. It's funny in a lot of cases because Doms can wax lyrical about how this or that needs complete honesty and trust, when the sub is acting out what they know the Dom wants in order to make them happy. It's a funny old world. | |||
"There no way that would work for me, having an orgasum without stimulation....no chance " I'd love to be able to come more easily but it wouldn't work for me either. Quite apart from anything else, nobody is going to be allowed to mess around in my head and rewire anything and the chance of me giving someone else control over me is low to absolutely not going to happen. | |||
"I would love to train Scarlett in this. She is quite receptive to new things so I might look into it. She loves orgasm denial, which we practice as much as possible. As long as it doesn't end up that the only way she can orgasm is by my verbal or text command. "No but little miss must always ask permission to cum and will not without it. But i do give her permission to cum as she wishes after the first few orgasm as her asking every few minutes once i slip inside her and start fucking her properly can get a bit distracting but then can the pile of orgasmic flesh that is left quivering of she is left to just keep coming again and again till I'm finished Like i said it's not hypnosis is just teaching them a knew way to look at orgasms in there head | |||
"Sounds like you're talking about trigger terms. Is that wise? " I haven't given any body's single commands apart from in example and triggers terms! Triggers from a bdsm standpoint are what set off a bad emotional response in someone who had had a bad experience in the past. As I've repeatly said I'd this isn't hypnosis this is about a person learning how to organs mentally with out stimulation. Like an illerate person leaning sudoku first they have to learn to cunt to ten and then see the pattern. Most girls by 18 already have a pattern in there had the way they play with themselves and how they come by 30 they have generally find a slow rythem day rythem and I'll come right now as i need this now rythem. Other than that they let the guy try and when he's fine and gone sleep they sort them selves out. If that was a surprise then hold on to your hat your in for bumpy ride. Is not hypnosis simple understand there pleasure and how they can own it. But like most people when was the last time you learned something new when was the lady time a parnter in bed did something so different you just exploded all over them and when you wtf was that they go i realised if i pull gently down on your balls as your a they start to bunch up right just before you come that the gentle pulling made you pull them up harder before you came and that Made you spunk twice as hard Twice as long. The next time you would ask them to try it again and you would be taking notice. The next time you was wanking you would have to try and see if it worked for you the same as it worked for her. (Ladies listen up slipping you some good here if you didn't already know) If you can understand the mechanical biological physical psychological of the orgasm on the human body you can understand what elements can be used to produce a super orgasm or simply make the ones they have better. So the male body reaction is pull up the testi prior to orgasm and prime the sperm ready for ejaculation if the balls are being gently pulled down and are not allowed to rose tight into the scrotum then the body will apply more fluid to the muscles that retract the testi this increases the pressure on them causing them to swell so when when the male orgasms the added fluid in the pumped up muscles mean that the prostrate is pumpef up more than normal so when it squeeses add the man cums it is squashing the same amount of slunk thriving a tighter hole so it cums out a lot faster the sensation is more intense and where the slunk is held for ejaculation doesn't empty as fast so tells the brain to keep coming till all the spunks gone if the pleasurable stimulation hasn't stopped. Is just a new experience that till you feel it you don't understand it | |||
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"Where's the joy in that, I want her to cum all over my cock as it slides in and out of her, or to taste her cum as I tease her clit with my lips tongue and fingers, I don't want her cumming in her knickers without my involvement just because I've clicked my fingers. This is exactly why I have no desire to own, control or otherwise a woman outside of the bedroom. I did once train my dog to sit with a treat on his nose though. Eventually got it to about 5 seconds.
I'd last 4 seconds with a bar of chocolate "Know the feeling | |||
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"I'm a firm believer in live and let live, and I'm not criticizing, I'm just trying to understand. I just don't get why a man needs power, is it an inadequacy thing? For me, sex is a very mutual thing, on the occasions that I've taken part in a little bondage, or bdsm, its been at her request, and for her pleasure, I'd rather just have good old filthy sex, where we give each other a 'run for our money' so to speak. I would get no pleasure from knowing I had made her cum, without using my body, and her rewards are a given because we please each other. I have been told I'm dominant, and the more I learn, the more I realise, there are fundamental differences between that and what people would class as a Dom. I like to take the lead and to be in control, I like to tell her what to do, and I like to be very physical, but I'm incredibly conscious of her reactions and response, because, I wouldn't want her to engage in anything she had reservations about (hair pulling, neck holding, pinning her down etc), and more than anything, I want to leave both of us satisfied and fulfilled. Anyhow, I think I just a slightly kinky, very physical, but considerate person. I'll leave all the mind games and unusual stuff to the true 'Dom's and the 'Slaves' they 'Own'. FFS, am I vanilla??? "Trust me when i say this is nothing to do with penis size see the pics of stamina see singles and couples profile verifications lol. Sex is sex but when your half round the world for a month or simply 10 miles away and i think she's been good and deserves a little something nice. I can simply give her the exact amount of pleasure i think she deserves. Why because she's mine and why does cum because she loves being mine. Had done for the last two years. Those that don't understand the subtle similarities between a normal boy girl relationship and a d/s relationship is that in one there is complete honesty complete trust and in the other is a boy and girl. Because of the trust and honesty is so strong there is no secrecy so fantasies can be talked about and lived not just wanked over while she's in the bath or he's at work. With that trust and openess all pleasures can be looked at and tried so polygamy works if a dom has 2 subs living there they all understand the situation and get on. There will always be exceptions to the rule. But if it works and people are happy then enjoy. If fucking lots of different woman. Every night is the game or being monogamous then it's what ever you need to get you through the day live it. The problem is 50 Shades came out the is the worst example of bdsm mummy porn going but with it comes the girls that to try a little more and the guys who think spanking an arse and tying her hands to the bed posts so they get there cocks sucked and fucked by some young girl. Are a joke as they don't understand half what have seen and so people get hurt mentally and physically. But hey its life we are all here to have fun. Some just try not to do it at the expense of others. Each to there own lol | |||
"I'm a firm believer in live and let live, and I'm not criticizing, I'm just trying to understand. I just don't get why a man needs power, is it an inadequacy thing? For me, sex is a very mutual thing, on the occasions that I've taken part in a little bondage, or bdsm, its been at her request, and for her pleasure, I'd rather just have good old filthy sex, where we give each other a 'run for our money' so to speak. I would get no pleasure from knowing I had made her cum, without using my body, and her rewards are a given because we please each other. I have been told I'm dominant, and the more I learn, the more I realise, there are fundamental differences between that and what people would class as a Dom. I like to take the lead and to be in control, I like to tell her what to do, and I like to be very physical, but I'm incredibly conscious of her reactions and response, because, I wouldn't want her to engage in anything she had reservations about (hair pulling, neck holding, pinning her down etc), and more than anything, I want to leave both of us satisfied and fulfilled. Anyhow, I think I just a slightly kinky, very physical, but considerate person. I'll leave all the mind games and unusual stuff to the true 'Dom's and the 'Slaves' they 'Own'. FFS, am I vanilla???
Trust me when i say this is nothing to do with penis size see the pics of stamina see singles and couples profile verifications lol.
Sex is sex but when your half round the world for a month or simply 10 miles away and i think she's been good and deserves a little something nice. I can simply give her the exact amount of pleasure i think she deserves. Why because she's mine and why does cum because she loves being mine. Had done for the last two years.
Those that don't understand the subtle similarities between a normal boy girl relationship and a d/s relationship is that in one there is complete honesty complete trust and in the other is a boy and girl. Because of the trust and honesty is so strong there is no secrecy so fantasies can be talked about and lived not just wanked over while she's in the bath or he's at work.
With that trust and openess all pleasures can be looked at and tried so polygamy works if a dom has 2 subs living there they all understand the situation and get on. There will always be exceptions to the rule. But if it works and people are happy then enjoy.
If fucking lots of different woman. Every night is the game or being monogamous then it's what ever you need to get you through the day live it.
The problem is 50 Shades came out the is the worst example of bdsm mummy porn going but with it comes the girls that to try a little more and the guys who think spanking an arse and tying her hands to the bed posts so they get there cocks sucked and fucked by some young girl. Are a joke as they don't understand half what have seen and so people get hurt mentally and physically.
But hey its life we are all here to have fun. Some just try not to do it at the expense of others.
Each to there own lol" | |||
" Anyhow, I think I just a slightly kinky, very physical, but considerate person. I'll leave all the mind games and unusual stuff to the true 'Dom's and the 'Slaves' they 'Own'. FFS, am I vanilla??? "Nothing wrong with vanilla You are what you are if you think your a dominate and play as one then learn read don't just want kinky porn. You can never know everything like i said each sub i train is different as how they react learn. There are better sites to be in to learn as well if your interested lol. | |||
"I'm a firm believer in live and let live, and I'm not criticizing, I'm just trying to understand. I just don't get why a man needs power, is it an inadequacy thing? For me, sex is a very mutual thing, on the occasions that I've taken part in a little bondage, or bdsm, its been at her request, and for her pleasure, I'd rather just have good old filthy sex, where we give each other a 'run for our money' so to speak. I would get no pleasure from knowing I had made her cum, without using my body, and her rewards are a given because we please each other. I have been told I'm dominant, and the more I learn, the more I realise, there are fundamental differences between that and what people would class as a Dom. I like to take the lead and to be in control, I like to tell her what to do, and I like to be very physical, but I'm incredibly conscious of her reactions and response, because, I wouldn't want her to engage in anything she had reservations about (hair pulling, neck holding, pinning her down etc), and more than anything, I want to leave both of us satisfied and fulfilled. Anyhow, I think I just a slightly kinky, very physical, but considerate person. I'll leave all the mind games and unusual stuff to the true 'Dom's and the 'Slaves' they 'Own'. FFS, am I vanilla???
Trust me when i say this is nothing to do with penis size see the pics of stamina see singles and couples profile verifications lol.
Sex is sex but when your half round the world for a month or simply 10 miles away and i think she's been good and deserves a little something nice. I can simply give her the exact amount of pleasure i think she deserves. Why because she's mine and why does cum because she loves being mine. Had done for the last two years.
Those that don't understand the subtle similarities between a normal boy girl relationship and a d/s relationship is that in one there is complete honesty complete trust and in the other is a boy and girl. Because of the trust and honesty is so strong there is no secrecy so fantasies can be talked about and lived not just wanked over while she's in the bath or he's at work.
With that trust and openess all pleasures can be looked at and tried so polygamy works if a dom has 2 subs living there they all understand the situation and get on. There will always be exceptions to the rule. But if it works and people are happy then enjoy.
If fucking lots of different woman. Every night is the game or being monogamous then it's what ever you need to get you through the day live it.
The problem is 50 Shades came out the is the worst example of bdsm mummy porn going but with it comes the girls that to try a little more and the guys who think spanking an arse and tying her hands to the bed posts so they get there cocks sucked and fucked by some young girl. Are a joke as they don't understand half what have seen and so people get hurt mentally and physically.
But hey its life we are all here to have fun. Some just try not to do it at the expense of others.
Each to there own lol"Absolutely, I've seen and read a lot of things that I struggle to understand on here, and I get curious. Understand the halfway around the world thing, makes sense. My thing is to have friends with benefits, because I have found these types of relationships to be very open and honest. I'm not very prolific, because I'm very specific in my requirements. As you say, each to their own. | |||
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