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Looks like they have found Becky Watts
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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According to BBC news body parts have been found in Bristol which looks like they could be the missing teenager Beck Watts 
So sad and i feel for her family right now |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"According to BBC news body parts have been found in Bristol which looks like they could be the missing teenager Beck Watts
So sad and i feel for her family right now "
Oh noooo |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"7 people in total arrested, 2 charged with kidnap and murder
I'd volunteer to chop their bollocks off in the town high street
I really think I would the bastards
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I have to admit i feel similar but would want them to suffer more first, im disgusted at this, that area of Bristol is a close community and this will spark retribution if its not handled well |
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"7 people in total arrested, 2 charged with kidnap and murder
I'd volunteer to chop their bollocks off in the town high street
I really think I would the bastards
I have to admit i feel similar but would want them to suffer more first, im disgusted at this, that area of Bristol is a close community and this will spark retribution if its not handled well "
You may be right
You kno know no one loves men more than me but why is it almost always young girls or women
Hardly ever men
Grrrrr
It's so awful |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I noticed there are women involved in this case, I remember when I was a kid we were always warned to stay away from strange men, noone ever told us women could hurt you too, but over the years I have noticed more and more cases of missing kids etc that have involved women, seems like it time to change who we are warning our kids to stay away from and trust
You can't even begine to imagine what her parents are going through right now |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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It really is awful, my fear is the backlash once the suspects are named particularly if they are foreign, not that it makes it any worse but i know how close that community is and it could spark serious outrage |
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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago
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"7 people in total arrested, 2 charged with kidnap and murder "
7 people arrested makes me think that there is much more to this than meets the eye. Normally one sick and twisted pervert, occasionally aided and abetted by an equally sick woman. ... But 7 people now arrested??? Odd, very odd. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I noticed there are women involved in this case, I remember when I was a kid we were always warned to stay away from strange men, noone ever told us women could hurt you too, but over the years I have noticed more and more cases of missing kids etc that have involved women, seems like it time to change who we are warning our kids to stay away from and trust
You can't even begine to imagine what her parents are going through right now "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"7 people in total arrested, 2 charged with kidnap and murder
7 people arrested makes me think that there is much more to this than meets the eye. Normally one sick and twisted pervert, occasionally aided and abetted by an equally sick woman. ... But 7 people now arrested??? Odd, very odd."
yes and I am sure it will all come out ...... and other things too I bet . |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"7 people in total arrested, 2 charged with kidnap and murder
7 people arrested makes me think that there is much more to this than meets the eye. Normally one sick and twisted pervert, occasionally aided and abetted by an equally sick woman. ... But 7 people now arrested??? Odd, very odd. yes and I am sure it will all come out ...... and other things too I bet ."
It is all a bit odd i admit |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"7 people in total arrested, 2 charged with kidnap and murder
7 people arrested makes me think that there is much more to this than meets the eye. Normally one sick and twisted pervert, occasionally aided and abetted by an equally sick woman. ... But 7 people now arrested??? Odd, very odd."
My thoughts too. Hope there aren't more revelations to come but have a nagging feeling there might |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Just been reading some of the messages on Spotted Bristol, loads calling for the death penalty but also some beautiful messages of support, seems Bristol has really come together over this |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'm shocked and disgusted at the thought that some sick twisted bastards would do this to a 16 year old girl. I hope they burn in hell for what they did to her |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Makes my fucking blood boil, poor kid. They deserve to be tortured to the brink of death yet kept alive to suffer the agony "
They did,nt fuck About in the medievil days I sometimes Wonder especially after hearing dreadful Case,s of child murder etc that going back to those times and unleashing the Same punishments on these type of evil Bastards would,nt be a bad Idea with Hung drawn and quartered at the top of the list god knows how anyone could Watch that thou, yes I do agree bring back the gallows and those their Unsure of commiting the offences lock Them up. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"7 people in total arrested, 2 charged with kidnap and murder
7 people arrested makes me think that there is much more to this than meets the eye. Normally one sick and twisted pervert, occasionally aided and abetted by an equally sick woman. ... But 7 people now arrested??? Odd, very odd. yes and I am sure it will all come out ...... and other things too I bet .
It is all a bit odd i admit "
Only 2 of those arrested have been arrested for murder, the others are for assisting an offender, that can range from allowing the offenders into their homes to helping to dispose of the body, it's possible that they unwittingly assisted them, I'm not defending anyone here but without knowing the facts we shouldn't jump to conclusions. The facts will emerge soon enough |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Sickening. What pisses me off about these child killer cases are the costs involved for the offenders upkeep. Every inmate now will want to be the one that hurts/kills or maimes these monsters and just ends up putting more strain on staff and resources. Much easier/cheaper to just remove them from society with lethal injection. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Sickening. What pisses me off about these child killer cases are the costs involved for the offenders upkeep. Every inmate now will want to be the one that hurts/kills or maimes these monsters and just ends up putting more strain on staff and resources. Much easier/cheaper to just remove them from society with lethal injection. "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Sickening. What pisses me off about these child killer cases are the costs involved for the offenders upkeep. Every inmate now will want to be the one that hurts/kills or maimes these monsters and just ends up putting more strain on staff and resources. Much easier/cheaper to just remove them from society with lethal injection. "
That I agree as we should bring back the death penalty and use lethal injection rather than life imprisonment |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Sickening. What pisses me off about these child killer cases are the costs involved for the offenders upkeep. Every inmate now will want to be the one that hurts/kills or maimes these monsters and just ends up putting more strain on staff and resources. Much easier/cheaper to just remove them from society with lethal injection. "
The cost of the appeals process which can go on for years, and the execution itself would far outweigh the cost of keeping them in prison. And you would have to have a thorough appeals process, because the risk of miscarriage of justice is so huge when you're talking about the death penalty. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Sickening. What pisses me off about these child killer cases are the costs involved for the offenders upkeep. Every inmate now will want to be the one that hurts/kills or maimes these monsters and just ends up putting more strain on staff and resources. Much easier/cheaper to just remove them from society with lethal injection. "
Humm capital punishment just does not sit well with me there has been to many miscarriages of justice for me to agree with this, if you realise you have made a fuck up after you have killed someone you can't give them their life back
I do understand that is someone is guilty then death is a cheaper option than prison but at the end of the day someone's fait is in the hands of 12 people who decide if they are guilty or innocent and I wouldn't be one of those 12 if the outcome was death based on my decision, human can be wrong |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"For the sake of the family and friends I hope the media show great restraint in the reporting of what sounds like a horrific murder.
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Agreed. It's going to be such a terrible time for them without morbid sensationalism adding to that |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Sickening. What pisses me off about these child killer cases are the costs involved for the offenders upkeep. Every inmate now will want to be the one that hurts/kills or maimes these monsters and just ends up putting more strain on staff and resources. Much easier/cheaper to just remove them from society with lethal injection.
Humm capital punishment just does not sit well with me there has been to many miscarriages of justice for me to agree with this, if you realise you have made a fuck up after you have killed someone you can't give them their life back
I do understand that is someone is guilty then death is a cheaper option than prison but at the end of the day someone's fait is in the hands of 12 people who decide if they are guilty or innocent and I wouldn't be one of those 12 if the outcome was death based on my decision, human can be wrong"
It is in fact cheaper to send someone to prison for life than to enforce the death penalty. Well it is in America where the information is easily accessed. |
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By *carineMan
over a year ago
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"I did think something was up when they removed what looked like a 45 gallon drum from the family house and it took 4 to load it into the van -just the right size for a body "
The neighbours will be pleased about the peace and quiet. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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In cases where it's clear cut 1st degree murder not talking about when the charge is reduced to manslaughter or diminished responsibility. When all the evidence, DNA or even an admission means that it is certain the person is guilty, I do believe they should be permanently removed from our society. It's the only real justice you can give to the victims family. Fuck the appeals process, I'm sure the murdered victim would love to have had a say in whether they would be murdered or not.
Just think the prison custody officers jobs would be a whole lot easier if they didn't have high risk inmates. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"In cases where it's clear cut 1st degree murder not talking about when the charge is reduced to manslaughter or diminished responsibility. When all the evidence, DNA or even an admission means that it is certain the person is guilty, I do believe they should be permanently removed from our society. It's the only real justice you can give to the victims family. Fuck the appeals process, I'm sure the murdered victim would love to have had a say in whether they would be murdered or not.
Just think the prison custody officers jobs would be a whole lot easier if they didn't have high risk inmates. "
There have been so, so many cases where the evidence has been wrong, or where confessions have been forced. Complete certainty of guilt is pretty rare. Personally I believe the chance of one innocent person being wrongly executed is too much of a risk. Fading away into obscurity through life in prison is a better alternative in my _iew.
And if there were no child killers in prison, wouldn't the prison population just focus their attention on the paedophiles? The granny muggers? Or do they all have to be executed as well, where do you draw the line and who decides where that is? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"In cases where it's clear cut 1st degree murder not talking about when the charge is reduced to manslaughter or diminished responsibility. When all the evidence, DNA or even an admission means that it is certain the person is guilty, I do believe they should be permanently removed from our society. It's the only real justice you can give to the victims family. Fuck the appeals process, I'm sure the murdered victim would love to have had a say in whether they would be murdered or not.
Just think the prison custody officers jobs would be a whole lot easier if they didn't have high risk inmates.
There have been so, so many cases where the evidence has been wrong, or where confessions have been forced. Complete certainty of guilt is pretty rare. Personally I believe the chance of one innocent person being wrongly executed is too much of a risk. Fading away into obscurity through life in prison is a better alternative in my _iew.
And if there were no child killers in prison, wouldn't the prison population just focus their attention on the paedophiles? The granny muggers? Or do they all have to be executed as well, where do you draw the line and who decides where that is? "
Paedophiles could go as well, they take up just as much time and energy. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Its awful news, im back in my home town of Bristol tomorrow
It's bloody awful z Bristol is my home town too x "
.Were just outside Bristol and it was shocking when I heard it on radio five this morning. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"In cases where it's clear cut 1st degree murder not talking about when the charge is reduced to manslaughter or diminished responsibility. When all the evidence, DNA or even an admission means that it is certain the person is guilty, I do believe they should be permanently removed from our society. It's the only real justice you can give to the victims family. Fuck the appeals process, I'm sure the murdered victim would love to have had a say in whether they would be murdered or not.
Just think the prison custody officers jobs would be a whole lot easier if they didn't have high risk inmates.
There have been so, so many cases where the evidence has been wrong, or where confessions have been forced. Complete certainty of guilt is pretty rare. Personally I believe the chance of one innocent person being wrongly executed is too much of a risk. Fading away into obscurity through life in prison is a better alternative in my _iew.
And if there were no child killers in prison, wouldn't the prison population just focus their attention on the paedophiles? The granny muggers? Or do they all have to be executed as well, where do you draw the line and who decides where that is?
Paedophiles could go as well, they take up just as much time and energy. "
An admission - or confession - is a dangerous thing to pin guilt on to someone. The Timothy Evans case involved a confession which led to his execution (involving the murder of his wife and child). A brilliant book by Ludovic Kennedy, some thirteen years after Evans' execution showed how Evans' confession was very likely to have been manufactured by the police. Indeed, his neighbour John Christie was executed a few years after Evans after it was found Christie was a serial killer. Most commentators accept that Evans was innocent though he has never been given a full pardon. So notorious was the case that it was central to the abolition of the death penalty.
A similar, notorious case was the Guildford Four where a confession was extorted after police allegedly put guns in the accused's mouths. The sentencing judge said, when giving life sentences, that he would have given the death penalty if he could. Of course, all four were cleared later.
While I accept that there is no good reason to keep someone alive who could kill and dismember a young girl, the justice system is so flawed that the death penalty being reinstated would certainly see innocent people put to death. The introduction of DNA has seen many people released from death row in America in recent years |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Sickening. What pisses me off about these child killer cases are the costs involved for the offenders upkeep. Every inmate now will want to be the one that hurts/kills or maimes these monsters and just ends up putting more strain on staff and resources. Much easier/cheaper to just remove them from society with lethal injection.
Humm capital punishment just does not sit well with me there has been to many miscarriages of justice for me to agree with this, if you realise you have made a fuck up after you have killed someone you can't give them their life back
I do understand that is someone is guilty then death is a cheaper option than prison but at the end of the day someone's fait is in the hands of 12 people who decide if they are guilty or innocent and I wouldn't be one of those 12 if the outcome was death based on my decision, human can be wrong"
if prison was more basic it wouldnt cost so damn much - |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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"Sickening. What pisses me off about these child killer cases are the costs involved for the offenders upkeep. Every inmate now will want to be the one that hurts/kills or maimes these monsters and just ends up putting more strain on staff and resources. Much easier/cheaper to just remove them from society with lethal injection.
Humm capital punishment just does not sit well with me there has been to many miscarriages of justice for me to agree with this, if you realise you have made a fuck up after you have killed someone you can't give them their life back
I do understand that is someone is guilty then death is a cheaper option than prison but at the end of the day someone's fait is in the hands of 12 people who decide if they are guilty or innocent and I wouldn't be one of those 12 if the outcome was death based on my decision, human can be wrong
if prison was more basic it wouldnt cost so damn much - "
I think the biggest cost is wages. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Only 16 not much of a life she looked so nice on the news its such a shame to end your life like this,God bless her,hope the family get through this as best as they can,"
Daily mail said she was 21 |
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"Does anyone know how she died ? "
No.
No one knows yet. Not even the police.
We know she's dead but we don't know if she was murdered or died some other way.
We know the body is in parts.
We know two people have been arrested on suspicion of murder.
No murder is proven and nor is any sexual assault.
It's sad but these threads get out of hand with all the 'outrage' about things we know nothing about.
It's all very sad but we know nothing. |
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"Only 16 not much of a life she looked so nice on the news its such a shame to end your life like this,God bless her,hope the family get through this as best as they can,
Daily mail said she was 21"
The woman suspect is 21. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Only 16 not much of a life she looked so nice on the news its such a shame to end your life like this,God bless her,hope the family get through this as best as they can,
Daily mail said she was 21"
She was 16. The woman arrested is 21. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Only 16 not much of a life she looked so nice on the news its such a shame to end your life like this,God bless her,hope the family get through this as best as they can,
Daily mail said she was 21
The woman suspect is 21."
It showed a pic of a woman that went missing 21 days ago |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Update, I did delete the earlier post as wasn't 100% but it has been confirmed that Beckys step brother and girlfriend are the ones under arrest for her murder, the police have until this afternoon to charge them formally, so so sad
Am down in Bristol and the amount if support is phenomenal!! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Isn't the people arrested the girls step brother and girlfriend?"
Yep as I just said above, will know if they have been charged later, apparently the girlfriend has been taken to hospital |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"How demented do you have to be to dismember a 16 yr old girl, that will torture her poor parents forever. "
Agreed, if they are charged and found guilty at least they can be given life now as in the rest of their lives in prison not 25yrs |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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prison is not for them,to be fed and clothed,they all deserve hanging,while that poor little girls life has been taken away,its hard to imagine how or if she suffered,and to be dismembered,to lose a daughter so young,i feel for the family...... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Sickening. What pisses me off about these child killer cases are the costs involved for the offenders upkeep. Every inmate now will want to be the one that hurts/kills or maimes these monsters and just ends up putting more strain on staff and resources. Much easier/cheaper to just remove them from society with lethal injection.
Humm capital punishment just does not sit well with me there has been to many miscarriages of justice for me to agree with this, if you realise you have made a fuck up after you have killed someone you can't give them their life back
I do understand that is someone is guilty then death is a cheaper option than prison but at the end of the day someone's fait is in the hands of 12 people who decide if they are guilty or innocent and I wouldn't be one of those 12 if the outcome was death based on my decision, human can be wrong
if prison was more basic it wouldnt cost so damn much -
I think the biggest cost is wages."
Yeah it's staff wages mainly. Category d open prison it's about 27k cat c is around 31k. Category B male adult prison like where I work costs around 36k a year to keep one inmate. It's more to keep female prisoners. A category A prison is around 47k a year per inmate, again it's more for women. Women are harder work than men, with men you can sense when shits gonna kick off but with women they can look cool and calm as anything but then next thing you know someone's been stabbed in the neck with a spork! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Sickening. What pisses me off about these child killer cases are the costs involved for the offenders upkeep. Every inmate now will want to be the one that hurts/kills or maimes these monsters and just ends up putting more strain on staff and resources. Much easier/cheaper to just remove them from society with lethal injection.
Humm capital punishment just does not sit well with me there has been to many miscarriages of justice for me to agree with this, if you realise you have made a fuck up after you have killed someone you can't give them their life back
I do understand that is someone is guilty then death is a cheaper option than prison but at the end of the day someone's fait is in the hands of 12 people who decide if they are guilty or innocent and I wouldn't be one of those 12 if the outcome was death based on my decision, human can be wrong
if prison was more basic it wouldnt cost so damn much -
I think the biggest cost is wages.
Yeah it's staff wages mainly. Category d open prison it's about 27k cat c is around 31k. Category B male adult prison like where I work costs around 36k a year to keep one inmate. It's more to keep female prisoners. A category A prison is around 47k a year per inmate, again it's more for women. Women are harder work than men, with men you can sense when shits gonna kick off but with women they can look cool and calm as anything but then next thing you know someone's been stabbed in the neck with a spork! "
So based on that if the 28 yr old is convicted and given life ( lets say he lives another 60 yrs ) that would work out to nearly 3 million quid in tax payers money !!  |
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So based on that if the 28 yr old is convicted and given life ( lets say he lives another 60 yrs ) that would work out to nearly 3 million quid in tax payers money !! "
He wouldn't get 60 years though life in the uk is usually between 17-25 years ranging to 30 for the worst cases. (All cases of murder should be worst cases!)
If he's found to have killed and dismembered her body and providing he's of clear mind when he's convicted he'll probably go to a dispersal prison which is a category A prison which is about 47k a year, after he's done so many years he could be allowed in a category C prison, all depends on his behaviour and response. Because of the dismembering of her body he'll probably have between 19 and 22 years life sentence due to the age of his victim. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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So based on that if the 28 yr old is convicted and given life ( lets say he lives another 60 yrs ) that would work out to nearly 3 million quid in tax payers money !!
He wouldn't get 60 years though life in the uk is usually between 17-25 years ranging to 30 for the worst cases. (All cases of murder should be worst cases!)
If he's found to have killed and dismembered her body and providing he's of clear mind when he's convicted he'll probably go to a dispersal prison which is a category A prison which is about 47k a year, after he's done so many years he could be allowed in a category C prison, all depends on his behaviour and response. Because of the dismembering of her body he'll probably have between 19 and 22 years life sentence due to the age of his victim. "
Pretty sure the law changed recently ( the Lee Rigby murder ) that a sentence of life can now mean life and never to be released ? |
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