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over a year ago
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I think a lot has to do with peoples perception!
Other people are just arrogant because they think they are gods gift and have a higher opinion of themselves |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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People think I'm arrogant. I think I'm fit and they should go fuck themselves. nothing wrong with being confident It's a very attractive quality that more women should have. |
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"If you meet a guy and he talks to you like he's done you a favour meeting you that's arrogant, I've met a few like that "
That sums it up well.
Confidence is belief. That's all. Belief in your self or others or a machine or anything...
Arrogance is hubris, haughtiness, self importance.
The two are very different.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"People think I'm arrogant. I think I'm fit and they should go fuck themselves. nothing wrong with being confident It's a very attractive quality that more women should have. "
I'm just gonna shove my head firmly up your backside again, Biscotti. God damn it, stop making me agree with everything you say. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"People think I'm arrogant. I think I'm fit and they should go fuck themselves. nothing wrong with being confident It's a very attractive quality that more women should have. "
But its only attractive if you don't push it to the point of arrogance  |
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"People think I'm arrogant. I think I'm fit and they should go fuck themselves. nothing wrong with being confident It's a very attractive quality that more women should have. "
Thinking you are fit is low self esteem.
Knowing you are fit is confidence.
Telling people to go fuck themselves is arrogance.
Thanks for the examples. |
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"People think I'm arrogant. I think I'm fit and they should go fuck themselves. nothing wrong with being confident It's a very attractive quality that more women should have.
But its only attractive if you don't push it to the point of arrogance "
High Four ! I've hurt my thumb. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"how do you work out the balance??
You mean figuring out if others are or being either yourself? X "
i suppose i read comments and think 'well your head is very much up your own arse..'
but to them its confidence |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"People think I'm arrogant. I think I'm fit and they should go fuck themselves. nothing wrong with being confident It's a very attractive quality that more women should have.
Thinking you are fit is low self esteem.
Knowing you are fit is confidence.
Telling people to go fuck themselves is arrogance.
Thanks for the examples. "
I don't have low self esteem thank you very much. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"People think I'm arrogant. I think I'm fit and they should go fuck themselves. nothing wrong with being confident It's a very attractive quality that more women should have. "
See that comes off as arrogant and also very immature. Being confident also means you can be humble |
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"People think I'm arrogant. I think I'm fit and they should go fuck themselves. nothing wrong with being confident It's a very attractive quality that more women should have.
Thinking you are fit is low self esteem.
Knowing you are fit is confidence.
Telling people to go fuck themselves is arrogance.
Thanks for the examples.
I don't have low self esteem thank you very much. "
You are welcome. |
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"how do you work out the balance??
You mean figuring out if others are or being either yourself? X
i suppose i read comments and think 'well your head is very much up your own arse..'
but to them its confidence"
I think it's usually easy enough to tell which people would be arrogant in real life. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If you meet a guy and he talks to you like he's done you a favour meeting you that's arrogant, I've met a few like that
That sums it up well.
Confidence is belief. That's all. Belief in your self or others or a machine or anything...
Arrogance is hubris, haughtiness, self importance.
The two are very different.
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Very good way of putting it |
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"People think I'm arrogant. I think I'm fit and they should go fuck themselves. nothing wrong with being confident It's a very attractive quality that more women should have.
See that comes off as arrogant and also very immature. Being confident also means you can be humble"
High Four ! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"People think I'm arrogant. I think I'm fit and they should go fuck themselves. nothing wrong with being confident It's a very attractive quality that more women should have.
See that comes off as arrogant and also very immature. Being confident also means you can be humble"
Maybe I am arrogant. Either way I'm happy with myself. So I don't think it matters too much. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Confident people just are
Arrogant people can't stop themselves from telling the world and anyone they think is listening that they think they're the dogs bollocks |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I am quietly confident. Unless I have been drinking, when it may tip into arrogance. One of the reasons I don't get d*unk very often, since I don't like that characteristic in myself."
id love to get you pissed to see the inner you!  |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"Confident people just are
Arrogant people can't stop themselves from telling the world and anyone they think is listening that they think they're the dogs bollocks"
I like that....... hmmmmmm  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"People think I'm arrogant. I think I'm fit and they should go fuck themselves. nothing wrong with being confident It's a very attractive quality that more women should have.
I'm just gonna shove my head firmly up your backside again, Biscotti. God damn it, stop making me agree with everything you say. "
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By *londeCazWoman
over a year ago
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"Confident people just are
Arrogant people can't stop themselves from telling the world and anyone they think is listening that they think they're the dogs bollocks"
High Six (I'm Cumbrian and all of my thumbs are ok) |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Confident people just are
Arrogant people can't stop themselves from telling the world and anyone they think is listening that they think they're the dogs bollocks"
I also see that as insecurity
When people bang on about how great they are I just wonder who exactly they are trying to convince |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think confidence comes with increasing self awareness and self acceptance. Whereas arrogance is born out of a lack of self awareness, a feeling of superiority often linked with an overinflated fragile ego. Or something like that lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Confident people just are
Arrogant people can't stop themselves from telling the world and anyone they think is listening that they think they're the dogs bollocks
High Six (I'm Cumbrian and all of my thumbs are ok) "
its good to have spares |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Confident people just are
Arrogant people can't stop themselves from telling the world and anyone they think is listening that they think they're the dogs bollocks
I also see that as insecurity
When people bang on about how great they are I just wonder who exactly they are trying to convince "
I agree with that too,it won't be me they're convincing though,Ill be long gone,Im not here to pander to insecurities and mahoooooosive egos |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"Confident people just are
Arrogant people can't stop themselves from telling the world and anyone they think is listening that they think they're the dogs bollocks
I also see that as insecurity
When people bang on about how great they are I just wonder who exactly they are trying to convince "
over-compensating for things that are missing so to speak..... or saying it over and over again to convince themselves.... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Confident people just are
Arrogant people can't stop themselves from telling the world and anyone they think is listening that they think they're the dogs bollocks
I also see that as insecurity
When people bang on about how great they are I just wonder who exactly they are trying to convince "
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"Confident people just are
Arrogant people can't stop themselves from telling the world and anyone they think is listening that they think they're the dogs bollocks
High Six (I'm Cumbrian and all of my thumbs are ok) "
Any tentacles on those there digits ? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"People think I'm arrogant. I think I'm fit and they should go fuck themselves. nothing wrong with being confident It's a very attractive quality that more women should have. "
Fit in what way? X |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"People think I'm arrogant. I think I'm fit and they should go fuck themselves. nothing wrong with being confident It's a very attractive quality that more women should have.
Fit in what way? X"
Hot. Not physically fit, I'm not delusional. |
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Confidence is attractive.
Arrogance is not.
It's a fine line but I'd have to agree with the shouting loudest/trying to convince someone/insecurities. That won't apply to everyone though... some are just wankers without an excuse.
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"Confidence is attractive.
Arrogance is not.
It's a fine line but I'd have to agree with the shouting loudest/trying to convince someone/insecurities. That won't apply to everyone though... some are just wankers without an excuse.
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Helloooooooooooooo there. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'm arrogant. Well apparently I am. Because going to the gym means im arrogant accord to some people "
If trying to better yourself is arrogant then I'm the most insecure arrogant person going |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'm arrogant. Well apparently I am. Because going to the gym means im arrogant accord to some people
That depends.
On?
Your attitude/intentions etc."
True. But assuming I'm arrogant simply because of a few pictures, that well that's just ignorate. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'm arrogant. Well apparently I am. Because going to the gym means im arrogant accord to some people
That depends.
On?
Your attitude/intentions etc.
True. But assuming I'm arrogant simply because of a few pictures, that well that's just ignorate. "
How can you make an assumption of someone personality based on pictures?  |
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Confidence in my book is being sure of your own ability and worth and not needing to shout about it or compare yourself to anyone to be validated.
Arrogance is often born out of a compensation for low self-esteem deep down, and gives rise to a need to 'claim' superiority over others to feel OK with yourself.
Or it could just be born out of conceit - pride and ego. |
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Helloooooooooooooo there.
Wotcha Granny! 
How the hell are you?
/hijack
I'm confidently arrogant thank you. Hashtag Imustworkoutwhatahashtagis."
Well it's better than being arrogantly confident right?! 
#oneismoreattractivethantheother
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'm a bit of a mixed bag, I know I'm attractive on the outside but I also know I'm messed up inside, is that arrogance to know I'm attractive?
Also confidence, when I'm with my friends going to a bar or somewhere they'll always get me to walk in first, my ex would always get me to do the complaining or take clothes back to shops for him because I didn't care about things like that. In work I can speak in front of a room full of adult male criminals and command their attention.
For the last 21 years I've done martial arts and I'm p5 grade in Krav Maga, hold a green belt in jujitsu, 2nd dan black belt in kickboxing so I know I'm physically strong, fast and could fuck someone up pretty badly in a fight, though I could never use those skills as I'd lose all my licences and have a pretty heavy jail sentence, however it gives me a sense of confidence, then on the other hand I'm massively insecure and struggle with my emotions. So I dunno how I'd be described, a mess would sum it up! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'm a bit of a mixed bag, I know I'm attractive on the outside but I also know I'm messed up inside, is that arrogance to know I'm attractive?
Also confidence, when I'm with my friends going to a bar or somewhere they'll always get me to walk in first, my ex would always get me to do the complaining or take clothes back to shops for him because I didn't care about things like that. In work I can speak in front of a room full of adult male criminals and command their attention.
For the last 21 years I've done martial arts and I'm p5 grade in Krav Maga, hold a green belt in jujitsu, 2nd dan black belt in kickboxing so I know I'm physically strong, fast and could fuck someone up pretty badly in a fight, though I could never use those skills as I'd lose all my licences and have a pretty heavy jail sentence, however it gives me a sense of confidence, then on the other hand I'm massively insecure and struggle with my emotions. So I dunno how I'd be described, a mess would sum it up! "
Only you and those closest to you know what you are.
Going off track abit here... (I think we feel the same about the Bulger killers) if I had all those skills you have I would use them, on them!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'm arrogant. Well apparently I am. Because going to the gym means im arrogant accord to some people
That depends.
On?
Your attitude/intentions etc.
True. But assuming I'm arrogant simply because of a few pictures, that well that's just ignorate.
How can you make an assumption of someone personality based on pictures? "
Well you can assume in a stereotypical way I suppose. A lot of things are assumed on here on a daily basis! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'm arrogant. Well apparently I am. Because going to the gym means im arrogant accord to some people
That depends.
On?
Your attitude/intentions etc.
True. But assuming I'm arrogant simply because of a few pictures, that well that's just ignorate.
How can you make an assumption of someone personality based on pictures?
Well you can assume in a stereotypical way I suppose. A lot of things are assumed on here on a daily basis! "
I'm assuming you came to that assumption by presuming others' assumptions??
S x |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'm arrogant. Well apparently I am. Because going to the gym means im arrogant accord to some people
That depends.
On?
Your attitude/intentions etc.
True. But assuming I'm arrogant simply because of a few pictures, that well that's just ignorate.
How can you make an assumption of someone personality based on pictures?
Well you can assume in a stereotypical way I suppose. A lot of things are assumed on here on a daily basis! "
Really 
I hadn't noticed  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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some cases are cut n dry. others you need to spend some time around and get to know a bit better
its personal opinion and perception at the end of the day. you can get it wrong sometimes |
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By *londeCazWoman
over a year ago
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"Confident people just are
Arrogant people can't stop themselves from telling the world and anyone they think is listening that they think they're the dogs bollocks
High Six (I'm Cumbrian and all of my thumbs are ok)
Any tentacles on those there digits ?"
Nope, but the webbing comes in handy for swimming |
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By *bi HaiveMan
over a year ago
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I've never lacked confidence. I'm pretty sure I've been guilty of a fair bit of arrogance in my youth over one thing or another but these days I don't see it and whilst I've been accused of being arrogant on here (particularly in relation to forum posts) I prefer to _iew myself as 'opinionated' rather than arrogant. If I have strong beliefs I'll argue them to the death.
To me that's confidence in my beliefs and that's not arrogance.
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*others may disagree of course which is their preogative. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I've never lacked confidence. I'm pretty sure I've been guilty of a fair bit of arrogance in my youth over one thing or another but these days I don't see it and whilst I've been accused of being arrogant on here (particularly in relation to forum posts) I prefer to _iew myself as 'opinionated' rather than arrogant. If I have strong beliefs I'll argue them to the death.
To me that's confidence in my beliefs and that's not arrogance.
A
*others may disagree of course which is their preogative. "
I can be quite arrogant at work, I know my job well and I don't like sloppy workers, when I'm right I know I'm right and I won't take any shit from anyone who thinks they know better than me, because most don't lol
When it comes to myself, as in personal looks I don't even posses confidence never mind arrogance
You can't be confident and arrogant in some ways but that does not always mean it spreads across the whole of your personality |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'm arrogant. Well apparently I am. Because going to the gym means im arrogant accord to some people
That depends.
On?
Your attitude/intentions etc.
True. But assuming I'm arrogant simply because of a few pictures, that well that's just ignorate.
How can you make an assumption of someone personality based on pictures?
Well you can assume in a stereotypical way I suppose. A lot of things are assumed on here on a daily basis!
I'm assuming you came to that assumption by presuming others' assumptions??
S x"
Hahahahaha you assumed correctly!! x |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I'm arrogant, I don't understand why arrogance is seen as a bad trait to have? Being rude and arrogant is bad cut you can be arrogant and still be co alright person? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'm arrogant, I don't understand why arrogance is seen as a bad trait to have? Being rude and arrogant is bad cut you can be arrogant and still be co alright person?"
I don't believe that there are any good traits that come from arrogance |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'm arrogant, I don't understand why arrogance is seen as a bad trait to have? Being rude and arrogant is bad cut you can be arrogant and still be co alright person?
I don't believe that there are any good traits that come from arrogance"
nor me |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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In my work life I can come accross arrogant but at times I have no choice to have to get people into work and sometimes it's not nice.
I can be confident but of late its gone thanks to being ill and being honest low.
But its starting to come bk |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'm arrogant, I don't understand why arrogance is seen as a bad trait to have? Being rude and arrogant is bad cut you can be arrogant and still be co alright person?
I don't believe that there are any good traits that come from arrogance"
Really not 1? I'm determined strong willed. Stand up for what I think is right no matter what other people say? Stand up for my friends despite what other people's _iews of them, all this because I am arrogant and won't be swayed from my opinion |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'm arrogant, I don't understand why arrogance is seen as a bad trait to have? Being rude and arrogant is bad cut you can be arrogant and still be co alright person?
I don't believe that there are any good traits that come from arrogance
Really not 1? I'm determined strong willed. Stand up for what I think is right no matter what other people say? Stand up for my friends despite what other people's _iews of them, all this because I am arrogant and won't be swayed from my opinion"
None of those things sound like arrogance to me. I do those things too, but it's not because I'm arrogant. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I've been told by friends and family that I'm too shy and I need to 'grow a pair' and stop being so nice to women. It's not in my nature though!"
the shyness isn't always a bad thing |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Arrogance 'I'm better than everyone else'
Confidence 'No one else is better than me'
Many people often say that arrogant people are so in order to cover up their insecurities, however, its also true that insecure people are quick to label others as arrogant. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think arrogant people put others down in order to feel important.
Confident people have a sense of self worth but also value the worth of those around them. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'm arrogant, I don't understand why arrogance is seen as a bad trait to have? Being rude and arrogant is bad cut you can be arrogant and still be co alright person?
I don't believe that there are any good traits that come from arrogance
Really not 1? I'm determined strong willed. Stand up for what I think is right no matter what other people say? Stand up for my friends despite what other people's _iews of them, all this because I am arrogant and won't be swayed from my opinion"
That's not my interpretation of arrogant |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think arrogant people put others down in order to feel important.
Confident people have a sense of self worth but also value the worth of those around them."
Yep, and confident people don't give a shit about who thinks they're arrogant - I notice that people get accused of arrogance or 'entitlement' a lot on here though, both words are often thrown around as a get out clause, used by people when their points in whatever debate start to crumble. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'm arrogant, I don't understand why arrogance is seen as a bad trait to have? Being rude and arrogant is bad cut you can be arrogant and still be co alright person?
I don't believe that there are any good traits that come from arrogance
Really not 1? I'm determined strong willed. Stand up for what I think is right no matter what other people say? Stand up for my friends despite what other people's _iews of them, all this because I am arrogant and won't be swayed from my opinion"
The dictionary definition of arrogant is very different to your interpretation |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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For me it comes down to the perception of you by others. You are who you are, some may _iew you as shy, confident, arrogant or a complete arsehole. Ultimately if you are happy being who you are does it matter? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Try to put my opinion without getting in trouble again.... confidence is something deep down inside and knowing your truly happy with you.
Arrogance is knowing deep down inside you dont and are subconcciously worried others will see it so over compensate. My opinion only. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Confidence is not needing anyone elses validation. I don't actually think anybody is truly confident unless they're also arrogant.
People tend to get called arrogant when they shove their confidence in other peoples faces and piss them off, whereas confident people just go about being arrogant silently so don't annoy anyone. |
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"I'm arrogant, I don't understand why arrogance is seen as a bad trait to have? Being rude and arrogant is bad cut you can be arrogant and still be co alright person?"
Mmmmmmmmmmm there are no positive attributes of arrogance. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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In the late 80's, pre motherhood, I did some modelling!
Nowhere is there more arrogance - caused mainly by insecurity, self-conciousness and jealousy! It was a very strange world which, I hope, I left with confidence but not arrogance. Xx |
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