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"REAL ladies believe in equality and believe it's patronising to be treated as if they're disabled" Then I'm not a real Lady,I think old fashioned chivalry is rather lovely | |||
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"REAL ladies believe in equality and believe it's patronising to be treated as if they're disabled Then I'm not a real Lady,I think old fashioned chivalry is rather lovely " I agree with you totally | |||
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"Ahhh so equality goes out the window when you want a seat?" Don't think I said I wanted a seat? | |||
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"Ahhh so equality goes out the window when you want a seat?" on his lap........ thats whats was really go thru ya mind!!!! | |||
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"When I went to London for 5 days, literally every tube we got on where there where no seats people stood up to let us sit down, I did ask one man to move on a normal bus" You asked a man to move on the bus? Are you the Queen Mother or something? | |||
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"feeling like an old git now, but it's something I've seen change in my lifetime and still causes me to wonder if I am doing the right thing. as a kid, it was drilled into me (from a matriarchy of extremely strong females), you stand up and offer your seat to any lady within sight, then there was a feminist kickback, and quite rightly us hairy arsee blokes were challenged over why the hell we were treatting women like delicate China ornaments who needed special attention, now it's had a resurgence of acceptability as a simple guy aspiring to show his manners, it's now a dangerous judgement call! personallly, my approach is anyone who looks to be old skool gets offered a seat. please ladies, if we get the judgement wrong, indulge us, we are only trying to be gentlemen. " I think it's just down to basic manners really. I rarely travel by public transport, but whenever I'm on a bus I'm always watchful for the elderly, infirm, pregnant ladies etc. It should be about need, not gender. And I always hold doors open for people | |||
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"Hello fabbers I am here in that there London. Sans Pooch he is staying with his best friends. Miss him. I have noticed men down here dont stand up for ladies on the tube and give up. Their seats. Real Men give up their seats or am i gentle welsh boy? Ps Wow for a guy who loves legs and a fetish for black nylon this place is heaven lol " Course they do - It's just not Cricket otherwise!! | |||
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"Hello fabbers I am here in that there London. Sans Pooch he is staying with his best friends. Miss him. I have noticed men down here dont stand up for ladies on the tube and give up. Their seats. Real Men give up their seats or am i gentle welsh boy? Ps Wow for a guy who loves legs and a fetish for black nylon this place is heaven lol Course they do - It's just not Cricket otherwise!! " Mr P a fellow gentleman, | |||
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"You can have equality or you can chivalry.... You can't have both, unless you're a hypocrite...... Or a man's a mug" What a little ray of happy sunshine you are | |||
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"You can have equality or you can chivalry.... You can't have both, unless you're a hypocrite...... Or a man's a mug" What a load of bull. | |||
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"I think the logical rule should be to stand up if someone is less able. For example, the elderly, parents with young children, the disabled, pregnant women. Women who are perfectly fit and able are quite capable of standing. " Damn right. TRUE equality is how it should be!! | |||
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"When I went to London for 5 days, literally every tube we got on where there where no seats people stood up to let us sit down, I did ask one man to move on a normal bus You asked a man to move on the bus? Are you the Queen Mother or something? " no just was with someone older who wanted to sit in the seat that was designated for him and not a 30 something year old man | |||
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"Women have spoilt it for themselves if I get offered a seat I smile and say thank you.please do not let chivalry die" No feminazis have spoilt it for women. I believe in equality between the sexes but I also believe feminazis dont want equality at all they want superiority!! | |||
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"I will always stand for a lady or someone who is more deserving of the seat than I. I will hold doors open for everyone, smile politely, offer my place in a queue to someone who looks like they really could do with moving forward. I personally see it as basic politeness. I have had a lady kick off at me for offering my seat. I do it because I want to. " do you not see how patronising, even disrespectful, your first sentence was? | |||
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"Women have spoilt it for themselves if I get offered a seat I smile and say thank you.please do not let chivalry die No feminazis have spoilt it for women. I believe in equality between the sexes but I also believe feminazis dont want equality at all they want superiority!! " couldn't agree more | |||
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"So can chivalry and equality not co-exist?" Not in some peoples minds | |||
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"I will always stand for a lady or someone who is more deserving of the seat than I. I will hold doors open for everyone, smile politely, offer my place in a queue to someone who looks like they really could do with moving forward. I personally see it as basic politeness. I have had a lady kick off at me for offering my seat. I do it because I want to. do you not see how patronising, even disrespectful, your first sentence was?" Actually I don't. please explain? | |||
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"I will always stand for a lady or someone who is more deserving of the seat than I. I will hold doors open for everyone, smile politely, offer my place in a queue to someone who looks like they really could do with moving forward. I personally see it as basic politeness. I have had a lady kick off at me for offering my seat. I do it because I want to. do you not see how patronising, even disrespectful, your first sentence was? Actually I don't. please explain?" you're grouping women with the old the infirmed the needy | |||
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"Why do women deserve seats more than men?" They don't but it could be _iewed as simply a courtesy | |||
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"Why do women deserve seats more than men? They don't but it could be _iewed as simply a courtesy " Could you imagine if all the women started giving up their seats for men because it was just courtesy. None of us would ever fucking sit down. Except me, because I'm an arsehole. | |||
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"Why do women deserve seats more than men? They don't but it could be _iewed as simply a courtesy Could you imagine if all the women started giving up their seats for men because it was just courtesy. None of us would ever fucking sit down. Except me, because I'm an arsehole." | |||
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"So can chivalry and equality not co-exist?" not according to todays females, considering these responses | |||
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"Well I'm a woman that hopes men never stop being chivalrous, but sadly they will due to the reaction they now get. " I don't think I'll stop I'm too stuck in my ways | |||
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"I will always stand for a lady or someone who is more deserving of the seat than I. I will hold doors open for everyone, smile politely, offer my place in a queue to someone who looks like they really could do with moving forward. I personally see it as basic politeness. I have had a lady kick off at me for offering my seat. I do it because I want to. " If I am in a bus and an older or wobbly looking person get on (regardless of their sex) I will offer my seat, same for anyone with children or pregnant women. I think it is good manners to do so. If someone gives up their seat for me I would thank them kindly. Same for if they hold a door.... I would never take it for anything other than politeness | |||
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"If you put a thread up about women showing a bit of cleavage to get the car repaired cheaply see how many women would want equality then " I'd be horrified if anyone ever suggested I'd do that actually. Don't judge everyone by your own standards. | |||
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"You know, we use the word chivalry without actually knowing really what it means: Thou shalt believe all that the Church teaches and thou shalt observe all its directions (Believe the Church's teachings and observe all the Church's directions). Thou shalt defend the Church (Defend the Church). Thou shalt respect all weaknesses, and shalt constitute thyself the defender of them (Respect and defend all weaknesses). Thou shalt love the country in which thou wast born (Love your country). Thou shalt not recoil before thine enemy. Thou shalt make war against the infidel without cessation and without mercy (Show no mercy to the infidel. Do not hesitate to make war with them). Thou shalt perform scrupulously thy feudal duties, if they be not contrary to the laws of God (Perform all your feudal duties as long as they do not conflict with the laws of God). Thou shalt never lie, and shalt remain faithful to thy pledged word (Never lie or go back on one's word). Thou shalt be generous, and give largesse to everyone (Be generous to everyone). Thou shalt be everywhere and always the champion of the Right and the Good against Injustice and Evil (Always and everywhere be right and good against evil and injustice). So according to that... be religious... don't hesitate to start wars.. don't lie (lots of guys on here are fucked then)... and be generous to EVERYONE. Nothing about being nice specifically to women at all. Unless you interpret women as a 'weakness'." Then again these days it could simply mean courteous behaviour rather than the mediaeval code | |||
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"How chivalry and equality coexist...... They're polar opposites" Blending polar opposites is a particular speciality | |||
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" Then again these days it could simply mean courteous behaviour rather than the mediaeval code " I believe it would be more courteous to treat all human beings with equal respect, than to single out one particular subsection of society based on if they reckon they might have an inney or an outey. | |||
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"You know, we use the word chivalry without actually knowing really what it means: Thou shalt believe all that the Church teaches and thou shalt observe all its directions (Believe the Church's teachings and observe all the Church's directions). Thou shalt defend the Church (Defend the Church). Thou shalt respect all weaknesses, and shalt constitute thyself the defender of them (Respect and defend all weaknesses). Thou shalt love the country in which thou wast born (Love your country). Thou shalt not recoil before thine enemy. Thou shalt make war against the infidel without cessation and without mercy (Show no mercy to the infidel. Do not hesitate to make war with them). Thou shalt perform scrupulously thy feudal duties, if they be not contrary to the laws of God (Perform all your feudal duties as long as they do not conflict with the laws of God). Thou shalt never lie, and shalt remain faithful to thy pledged word (Never lie or go back on one's word). Thou shalt be generous, and give largesse to everyone (Be generous to everyone). Thou shalt be everywhere and always the champion of the Right and the Good against Injustice and Evil (Always and everywhere be right and good against evil and injustice). So according to that... be religious... don't hesitate to start wars.. don't lie (lots of guys on here are fucked then)... and be generous to EVERYONE. Nothing about being nice specifically to women at all. Unless you interpret women as a 'weakness'." Starburst moment! | |||
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"If you put a thread up about women showing a bit of cleavage to get the car repaired cheaply see how many women would want equality then I'd be horrified if anyone ever suggested I'd do that actually. Don't judge everyone by your own standards." I certainly wouldn't do it, but there are plenty of so called feminists on here who have admitted to doing such thing or similar or using their womanly charms and then they expect to be taken seriously | |||
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"How chivalry and equality coexist...... They're polar opposites Blending polar opposites is a particular speciality " haha | |||
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"You know, we use the word chivalry without actually knowing really what it means: Thou shalt believe all that the Church teaches and thou shalt observe all its directions (Believe the Church's teachings and observe all the Church's directions). Thou shalt defend the Church (Defend the Church). Thou shalt respect all weaknesses, and shalt constitute thyself the defender of them (Respect and defend all weaknesses). Thou shalt love the country in which thou wast born (Love your country). Thou shalt not recoil before thine enemy. Thou shalt make war against the infidel without cessation and without mercy (Show no mercy to the infidel. Do not hesitate to make war with them). Thou shalt perform scrupulously thy feudal duties, if they be not contrary to the laws of God (Perform all your feudal duties as long as they do not conflict with the laws of God). Thou shalt never lie, and shalt remain faithful to thy pledged word (Never lie or go back on one's word). Thou shalt be generous, and give largesse to everyone (Be generous to everyone). Thou shalt be everywhere and always the champion of the Right and the Good against Injustice and Evil (Always and everywhere be right and good against evil and injustice). So according to that... be religious... don't hesitate to start wars.. don't lie (lots of guys on here are fucked then)... and be generous to EVERYONE. Nothing about being nice specifically to women at all. Unless you interpret women as a 'weakness'." what a load of rubbish, everyone on here is using the same meaning for chivalry on here | |||
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"what a load of rubbish, everyone on here is using the same meaning for chivalry on here" I'm just saying... Is it really all that great to be proud of a kind of behaviour that has it's roots in murder, rape and defending the faith? Or should we just be decent to all humans insteaD? | |||
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"what a load of rubbish, everyone on here is using the same meaning for chivalry on here I'm just saying... Is it really all that great to be proud of a kind of behaviour that has it's roots in murder, rape and defending the faith? Or should we just be decent to all humans insteaD?" seriously, listen to yourself | |||
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"what a load of rubbish, everyone on here is using the same meaning for chivalry on here I'm just saying... Is it really all that great to be proud of a kind of behaviour that has it's roots in murder, rape and defending the faith? Or should we just be decent to all humans insteaD?" then people wonder why the feminists don't get taken seriously | |||
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"what a load of rubbish, everyone on here is using the same meaning for chivalry on here I'm just saying... Is it really all that great to be proud of a kind of behaviour that has it's roots in murder, rape and defending the faith? Or should we just be decent to all humans insteaD?then people wonder why the feminists don't get taken seriously" Where did feminists come into this? You don't have to be a feminist to think that you should treat all humans equally. | |||
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"REAL ladies believe in equality and believe it's patronising to be treated as if they're disabled" | |||
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"Poor women and their pathetically weak legs " Every time I try to drag myself out of bed in the morning I am ashamed that I cannot stand. I look in jealousy as my big strong man gets up out of the other side of the bed, while I have to drag myself about on these weak and barely functioning appendages. | |||
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"REAL ladies believe in equality and believe it's patronising to be treated as if they're disabled" isn't that irony in itself. Isn't the word lady supposed to mean the weaker sex, need looking after or haven't you had the latest list of buzz words | |||
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"I will always stand for a lady or someone who is more deserving of the seat than I. I will hold doors open for everyone, smile politely, offer my place in a queue to someone who looks like they really could do with moving forward. I personally see it as basic politeness. I have had a lady kick off at me for offering my seat. I do it because I want to. do you not see how patronising, even disrespectful, your first sentence was? Actually I don't. please explain? you're grouping women with the old the infirmed the needy" You are reading what you want to see, not what I wrote. I indicated two groups. Ladies OR those more deserving. That is not grouping them together. Say, for arguments sake, 1/3 of ladies think it is patronising, 1/3 expect it as a matter of course, 1/3 aren't fussed. I'm not psychic, so I gamble. Majority of the time the gesture is appreciated. I also said more deserving. I did not define my criteria, you put your own criteria on it. I may be sub and everyone is more deserving than me. I detect the whiff of White knight about your comment. I think it is basic manners to stand for others but I may be wrong. | |||
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"Poor women and their pathetically weak legs Every time I try to drag myself out of bed in the morning I am ashamed that I cannot stand. I look in jealousy as my big strong man gets up out of the other side of the bed, while I have to drag myself about on these weak and barely functioning appendages." So sad | |||
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" I think it is basic manners to stand for others but I may be wrong." But as I said, if standing for others is basic manners, then nobody would ever sit down on public transport. | |||
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"REAL ladies believe in equality and believe it's patronising to be treated as if they're disabled Then I'm not a real Lady,I think old fashioned chivalry is rather lovely " | |||
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"REAL ladies believe in equality and believe it's patronising to be treated as if they're disabledisn't that irony in itself. Isn't the word lady supposed to mean the weaker sex, need looking after or haven't you had the latest list of buzz words" is that the best you can pull out of that..... I mean what a pathetic come back | |||
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"Can't see how women will ever earn the same as men and be taken seriously in the work place as equals if this kind of thing persists. Say we do achieve full economic and employment equality AND we still expect to be offered seats, free meals etc I can only imagine the outcry! We already have a misogynist political party fighting back against the supposed 'feminist oppression' of men. I'd like to be treated as an equal, at work, at home and on the tube thanks." I will always offer my seat to someone elderly, on crutches, pregant or with kids. They nearly always accept. When I offer to an able bodied woman they nearly always refuse. I guess equality is alive and kicking in London. | |||
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"I havn't seen a single post in this thread from a woman saying they expect to be treated differently because they're female" When did it become so wrong for a man to be a gentleman? While I agree women are perfectly capable of standing. This however does not mean that if a man who is mearly trying to be nice,shouldn't accept the offer and take the seat. | |||
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"I havn't seen a single post in this thread from a woman saying they expect to be treated differently because they're female When did it become so wrong for a man to be a gentleman? While I agree women are perfectly capable of standing. This however does not mean that if a man who is mearly trying to be nice,shouldn't accept the offer and take the seat. " I agree,I thinks it sad that nice gestures can't be made or recieved without cynicism or animosity | |||
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"If I was on a train /bus etc... And there happened to be a lady standing, maybe looking a little tired from a busy day at work or stressed. I would offer her a seat. " So would I,and for a tired looking man too;I know what it's like to be shattered with an aching body standing on a bus or train. As for real men,a real man would take me to bed and make me feel like a woman | |||
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"REAL ladies believe in equality and believe it's patronising to be treated as if they're disabled" You shouldn't offer your seat because they are a female you should offer your seat because you're a gentleman. | |||
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"REAL ladies believe in equality and believe it's patronising to be treated as if they're disabled You shouldn't offer your seat because they are a female you should offer your seat because you're a gentleman. " Point well made x | |||
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"I obviously come from a bygone age. I agree totally that there has to be equality, however if I offer my seat as a well intentioned gesture to others, I do not do it to opress or to stake my male dominance over the "weaker sex". I do not force them to take the seat. I merely offer an opportunity to have a seat where otherwise there may not have been. should I not leave a tip for female staff in restaurants, just case I am reinforcing the _iew that I am financially dominant? I thought it was politeness. I can hear the click of block buttons already. It is simply my _iew, its something I do. I don't expect everyone to like it." don't worry I come from the dinosaurs as well | |||
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"I havn't seen a single post in this thread from a woman saying they expect to be treated differently because they're female When did it become so wrong for a man to be a gentleman? While I agree women are perfectly capable of standing. This however does not mean that if a man who is mearly trying to be nice,shouldn't accept the offer and take the seat. " It's not a problem, as long as you would offer it to a man as well. I like standing on trains - two weeks ago I was called an 'ungrateful feminazi bitch' because I refused a man's offer of a seat. All I had said was 'I'm fine thanks' and stayed standing where I was. I'd been sat in six hours of lectures by that point - I didn't want to sit down some more! I noticed that he didn't offer the seat to the man also standing next to me, who looked far more shattered than myself. | |||
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"Several years ago while working in London funnily enough. I was working in a swish office doing a big refurbishment. I had to go to the reception desk to inform the receptionist of a delivery blah blah blah... On way through the offices I stopped to hold a door open for a lady. She was neither attractive or unattractive, early 40's I was not trying to flirt or carry favour. Mearly holding open the door same as i would for anyone. Well the look she gave me, then she proceeded to fly into a tirade of abuse about me being a sexiest pig. I just let the door go, knocking her backwards. I wonder had I been in a suit and tie and not some grotty looking oik in builder's clothing would she have treated me with such disrespect? " Good for you!! | |||
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"REAL ladies believe in equality and believe it's patronising to be treated as if they're disabled You shouldn't offer your seat because they are a female you should offer your seat because you're a gentleman. " I knew there was a catch | |||
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"Didn't realise having a vagina gives you some kind of higher status on public transport. " | |||
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"Women have spoilt it for themselves if I get offered a seat I smile and say thank you.please do not let chivalry die No feminazis have spoilt it for women. I believe in equality between the sexes but I also believe feminazis dont want equality at all they want superiority!! " The what? What people bridle against is that in order to get equality (that is equal treatment) some has to lose their superior position. I know a lot of feminists and I am proud to be one but not one I know wants superiority. What we want is balance. The world still isn't balanced. Even in the West. As to the OP, I would thank you and let you sit. I go by the shoes rule as well as the less able. If someone looks like they are in uncomfortable shoes then I let them sit. If I'm feeling dizzy I try not to move too much so if I'm sitting it has to be someone less able for me to give up the seat. | |||
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"Has Anyone ever held the door open - only to be left standing there holding the door open for dozens of people.. Happened to hubby the other week and it was so funny.. " That happens to me a lot. I then have to make the decision to squeeze through and leave the door for someone else. | |||
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"Since I usually wear heels when out I love to take the weight off my feet for a few minutes! Whenever I have been on the tube ive had lovely men give up seats for me then given them a wonderful smile and had a little chat & flirt made the day much more pleasant! Mr freddie flintoff himself let me have his seat on the tube last time i was down I for one hate feminism.. I like men holding doors and buying dinner! Give me a gentleman anyday! " You hate feminism? Is this one of those "what's feminism ever done for me" type comments? It's possible to be a feminist and be gracious when someone makes a nice gesture. | |||
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"Women have spoilt it for themselves if I get offered a seat I smile and say thank you.please do not let chivalry die No feminazis have spoilt it for women. I believe in equality between the sexes but I also believe feminazis dont want equality at all they want superiority!! The what? What people bridle against is that in order to get equality (that is equal treatment) some has to lose their superior position. I know a lot of feminists and I am proud to be one but not one I know wants superiority. What we want is balance. The world still isn't balanced. Even in the West. As to the OP, I would thank you and let you sit. I go by the shoes rule as well as the less able. If someone looks like they are in uncomfortable shoes then I let them sit. If I'm feeling dizzy I try not to move too much so if I'm sitting it has to be someone less able for me to give up the seat. " And what is it with the feminazi handle? Comparing women who want equality (yes, really that is all we want) to those who tried to commit genocide against all the Jews in Europe doesn't win any arguments. Nothing wrong with being a feminist. | |||
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"Since I usually wear heels when out I love to take the weight off my feet for a few minutes! Whenever I have been on the tube ive had lovely men give up seats for me then given them a wonderful smile and had a little chat & flirt made the day much more pleasant! Mr freddie flintoff himself let me have his seat on the tube last time i was down I for one hate feminism.. I like men holding doors and buying dinner! Give me a gentleman anyday! You hate feminism? Is this one of those "what's feminism ever done for me" type comments? It's possible to be a feminist and be gracious when someone makes a nice gesture. " Nope its in that just from seeing these comments lots of men are put off being a gentleman for fear of abuse.. I love gentlemen and old fashioned ways! I also hate when women tell me I shouldnt use my body to get what I want.. Screw that when theres a long queue at the bar i will use my wears to try and tempt the barman over | |||
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"Since I usually wear heels when out I love to take the weight off my feet for a few minutes! Whenever I have been on the tube ive had lovely men give up seats for me then given them a wonderful smile and had a little chat & flirt made the day much more pleasant! Mr freddie flintoff himself let me have his seat on the tube last time i was down I for one hate feminism.. I like men holding doors and buying dinner! Give me a gentleman anyday! You hate feminism? Is this one of those "what's feminism ever done for me" type comments? It's possible to be a feminist and be gracious when someone makes a nice gesture. Nope its in that just from seeing these comments lots of men are put off being a gentleman for fear of abuse.. I love gentlemen and old fashioned ways! I also hate when women tell me I shouldnt use my body to get what I want.. Screw that when theres a long queue at the bar i will use my wears to try and tempt the barman over " Now there speaks a proper Bird, Know what you got and use it Gimp | |||
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"Has Anyone ever held the door open - only to be left standing there holding the door open for dozens of people.. Happened to hubby the other week and it was so funny.. That happens to me a lot. I then have to make the decision to squeeze through and leave the door for someone else. " It was really Funny.. someone actually tipped him 50p.. He didn't look like a Door person dressed in jeans.. But the people just flowed thru lol | |||
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"There are seats on all tube trains for the elderly, infirm or pregnant You are well within your rights to ask someone to move" Rules are for people not capable of making decisions for themselves, - gezz, it's hardly rocket science ........... to most | |||
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"Real men DO stand up, real Ladies DO stand up to fart in the bath" But that spoils the fun! | |||
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"REAL ladies believe in equality and believe it's patronising to be treated as if they're disabled Then I'm not a real Lady,I think old fashioned chivalry is rather lovely " | |||
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"REAL ladies believe in equality and believe it's patronising to be treated as if they're disabled Then I'm not a real Lady,I think old fashioned chivalry is rather lovely " Tips hat to you and waits for you to exit train first | |||
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"REAL ladies believe in equality and believe it's patronising to be treated as if they're disabled Then I'm not a real Lady,I think old fashioned chivalry is rather lovely Tips hat to you and waits for you to exit train first " See! Thats just completely charming,I have never had that happen to me from a man under the age of 70 but when it happens it melts my heart | |||
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"thats london for you, I always offer my seat to a lady if she is standing." The trouble here is its not London thats being discussed its a north south thing,having lived there for 15 yrs i noticed the people of the south were all for themselves and did not give a flying fuck about others. The north is mainly a total reversal...London is a rotten place really and only good for work | |||
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"thats london for you, I always offer my seat to a lady if she is standing.The trouble here is its not London thats being discussed its a north south thing,having lived there for 15 yrs i noticed the people of the south were all for themselves and did not give a flying fuck about others. The north is mainly a total reversal...London is a rotten place really and only good for work " You probably don't mean it this way but London doesn't represent the entire south. | |||
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"thats london for you, I always offer my seat to a lady if she is standing.The trouble here is its not London thats being discussed its a north south thing,having lived there for 15 yrs i noticed the people of the south were all for themselves and did not give a flying fuck about others. The north is mainly a total reversal...London is a rotten place really and only good for work " Many Londoners would disagree with that Gimp | |||
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"thats london for you, I always offer my seat to a lady if she is standing.The trouble here is its not London thats being discussed its a north south thing,having lived there for 15 yrs i noticed the people of the south were all for themselves and did not give a flying fuck about others. The north is mainly a total reversal...London is a rotten place really and only good for work " What a load of bollocks, I've never heard so much shit in all my life. | |||
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"Good morning fabbers Blimey Charlie I have seemed to have opens a massive can of worms ! I will still stand for ladies on the tube, but I can appreciate that we are all equal . X" Would you be offended if the woman refused, or offered it to someone more in need? | |||
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"thats london for you, I always offer my seat to a lady if she is standing.The trouble here is its not London thats being discussed its a north south thing,having lived there for 15 yrs i noticed the people of the south were all for themselves and did not give a flying fuck about others. The north is mainly a total reversal...London is a rotten place really and only good for work " I found Oxford to be much, much worse than London for that sort of thing. But then I adore London, and am not sure why not offering a tube seat to a fit and healthy woman is the epitome of bad manners. | |||
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"I think the logical rule should be to stand up if someone is less able. For example, the elderly, parents with young children, the disabled, pregnant women. Women who are perfectly fit and able are quite capable of standing. " | |||
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"thats london for you, I always offer my seat to a lady if she is standing.The trouble here is its not London thats being discussed its a north south thing,having lived there for 15 yrs i noticed the people of the south were all for themselves and did not give a flying fuck about others. The north is mainly a total reversal...London is a rotten place really and only good for work " And the award for sweeping stamement of the thread goes to ^^ personally I'm more than happy to accept a seat on the tube if one is offered, likewise I'll give mine up if need be. | |||
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" The Tube is a complex system It's a wonderful city and friendly if you but engage with people and don't judge it based on somewhere with 1 million people or under. " Complex? complete poppycock, the Underground is simple; even a Blind Man with a dog can get around it!!! | |||
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" The Tube is a complex system It's a wonderful city and friendly if you but engage with people and don't judge it based on somewhere with 1 million people or under. Complex? complete poppycock, the Underground is simple; even a Blind Man with a dog can get around it!!! " Tbh I found the tube very easy to navigate | |||
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"Having lived and worked in London for 20 years I have noticed the following ,queuing is now almost non existent bus stops are a free for all. I will off a seat on a train,bus and tube provided they clearly need it, mostly people dont this. You hold a door open for someone mostly they do say thank you but that usually from British people who have been brought up that way the foreign business suits think your just a door stop. Unfortunately London is just full of rude people you just hope they are as rude in bed as they are in person." If I hold a door for someone and they dont say anything I usually very loudly say 'The word is thank you' if they are going to be ignorant I will embarass them | |||
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"thats london for you, I always offer my seat to a lady if she is standing.The trouble here is its not London thats being discussed its a north south thing,having lived there for 15 yrs i noticed the people of the south were all for themselves and did not give a flying fuck about others. The north is mainly a total reversal...London is a rotten place really and only good for work " thats bollocks.. im a northener and have been darn sarf for over 25 years and worked in many parts of London in that time.. have also lived in the south west, north Yorks, abroad and was born and raised in the north west.. places are what you make it, people by and large are people the world over and you will get what you give with them and you will get out of a place more when you dont go there with misconceptions perhaps.. London is no different.. | |||
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"We all have our own opinions and experiences. I was brought up down South and lived up north for only 4 years. Give me the North any day much more friendlier and considerate." trouble is you don't have such a fabulous underground like there is in London | |||
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" The Tube is a complex system It's a wonderful city and friendly if you but engage with people and don't judge it based on somewhere with 1 million people or under. Complex? complete poppycock, the Underground is simple; even a Blind Man with a dog can get around it!!! " And yet people stop at the end of the escalators and get on the wrong trains. | |||
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"thats london for you, I always offer my seat to a lady if she is standing.The trouble here is its not London thats being discussed its a north south thing,having lived there for 15 yrs i noticed the people of the south were all for themselves and did not give a flying fuck about others. The north is mainly a total reversal...London is a rotten place really and only good for work What a load of bollocks, I've never heard so much shit in all my life. " *see All Men Are Bastards thread. | |||
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"Hands up who likes to change at Baker street?" No one likes to change at Baker Street. Plus the inevitable, interminable wait just outside the station, which is only exceeded by the one at Paddington and leads to you missing your train to Exeter. | |||
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"You know, we use the word chivalry without actually knowing really what it means: Thou shalt believe all that the Church teaches and thou shalt observe all its directions (Believe the Church's teachings and observe all the Church's directions). Thou shalt defend the Church (Defend the Church). Thou shalt respect all weaknesses, and shalt constitute thyself the defender of them (Respect and defend all weaknesses). Thou shalt love the country in which thou wast born (Love your country). Thou shalt not recoil before thine enemy. Thou shalt make war against the infidel without cessation and without mercy (Show no mercy to the infidel. Do not hesitate to make war with them). Thou shalt perform scrupulously thy feudal duties, if they be not contrary to the laws of God (Perform all your feudal duties as long as they do not conflict with the laws of God). Thou shalt never lie, and shalt remain faithful to thy pledged word (Never lie or go back on one's word). Thou shalt be generous, and give largesse to everyone (Be generous to everyone). Thou shalt be everywhere and always the champion of the Right and the Good against Injustice and Evil (Always and everywhere be right and good against evil and injustice). So according to that... be religious... don't hesitate to start wars.. don't lie (lots of guys on here are fucked then)... and be generous to EVERYONE. Nothing about being nice specifically to women at all. Unless you interpret women as a 'weakness'." did you google that | |||
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"Haha i will get slated for this but i find most Southerners are not thoughtful in that way. I travel to London a lot and men and women have seen me struggle at the tube/train station with cases and bags and just barge pass me. However Manchester and other Northern Cities I get offered help all the time. X" But as a former Londoner I'm sure you must have realised that if no one rushed past people struggling suitcases & offered to give a hand, in a city with mass tourism, the tube just wouldn't work; it would slow the whole network down & even the network of walkways would come to a standstill. It's always easier & people have more time in smaller towns & cities wherever you live around the world, - that's just the nature of the big city-beast! | |||
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" did you google that " Yes, I googled the exact wording of that reproduction of the chivalric code, however I've studied the subject too. Do you think that Googling stuff to find out the exact wording is a problem for some reason? I find it rather helpful in circumstances like this. Far quicker than walking up three floors to find my book on it. | |||
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"Coming back from a meeting (work not Fab) on the tube this evening and I saw the sweetest thing. It wasn't a packed carriage (after 9pm on a Monday) but there was only one seat left and two young people (early 20s) got on through different doors and headed for the seat. He offered her the seat and she declined. He sat down and thanked her. Some people got off and three seats became vacant. She sat in the one next to him and for the next six stops they chatted, flirted and giggled. Then he had to get off and he thanked her for making his day. She spent the rest of the journey grinning like the Cheshire Cat. I really hope they track each other down somehow as they really looked like they match each other (even their woolly hats were similar). " Aww lovely that made me smile.too | |||
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"Well im currently pregnant and there was a very frail eldery gentleman that got on my bus this morning zimmer frame in tow and i was the only one to offer him a seat he refused to take it from me given my condition, even though i insisted. There were many other able bodied people that could have offered to do so for him but they didnt i felt so sorry for him " Doncaster isn't London - it can't have happened! All you could do was offer and you did that. | |||
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"Well im currently pregnant and there was a very frail eldery gentleman that got on my bus this morning zimmer frame in tow and i was the only one to offer him a seat he refused to take it from me given my condition, even though i insisted. There were many other able bodied people that could have offered to do so for him but they didnt i felt so sorry for him " Doesn't surprise me. | |||
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"Well im currently pregnant and there was a very frail eldery gentleman that got on my bus this morning zimmer frame in tow and i was the only one to offer him a seat he refused to take it from me given my condition, even though i insisted. There were many other able bodied people that could have offered to do so for him but they didnt i felt so sorry for him " Doncaster is north I believe so it can't be true. You're all so friendly up there. Or was this a bus full of southerners ? Well done for offering. I'm sure he appreciated the gesture. | |||
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"Well im currently pregnant and there was a very frail eldery gentleman that got on my bus this morning zimmer frame in tow and i was the only one to offer him a seat he refused to take it from me given my condition, even though i insisted. There were many other able bodied people that could have offered to do so for him but they didnt i felt so sorry for him Doncaster is north I believe so it can't be true. You're all so friendly up there. Or was this a bus full of southerners ? Well done for offering. I'm sure he appreciated the gesture. " Evidently not everyone is. At the end of the day you get your good and your bad in all places | |||
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"Coming back from a meeting (work not Fab) on the tube this evening and I saw the sweetest thing. It wasn't a packed carriage (after 9pm on a Monday) but there was only one seat left and two young people (early 20s) got on through different doors and headed for the seat. He offered her the seat and she declined. He sat down and thanked her. Some people got off and three seats became vacant. She sat in the one next to him and for the next six stops they chatted, flirted and giggled. Then he had to get off and he thanked her for making his day. She spent the rest of the journey grinning like the Cheshire Cat. I really hope they track each other down somehow as they really looked like they match each other (even their woolly hats were similar). " I used to be a tube driver and I once had sex with someone I bumped into at work. . . . I didn't get a blowjob though as I couldn't find their head. | |||
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"Coming back from a meeting (work not Fab) on the tube this evening and I saw the sweetest thing. It wasn't a packed carriage (after 9pm on a Monday) but there was only one seat left and two young people (early 20s) got on through different doors and headed for the seat. He offered her the seat and she declined. He sat down and thanked her. Some people got off and three seats became vacant. She sat in the one next to him and for the next six stops they chatted, flirted and giggled. Then he had to get off and he thanked her for making his day. She spent the rest of the journey grinning like the Cheshire Cat. I really hope they track each other down somehow as they really looked like they match each other (even their woolly hats were similar). I used to be a tube driver and I once had sex with someone I bumped into at work. . . . I didn't get a blowjob though as I couldn't find their head. " That's a terrible tube driver joke. I haven't heard that one in years. | |||
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"Meh... This is all indicative of a society where we have all been trained to be afraid of each other... Men don't want to approch women out of context... For fear of a whole load of ball ache. Peopl don't want to say anything to people with disabilities... For fear of pitying them. Watch as you are beaten half to death and people just watch the show..." That's a very sad, gloomy picture. We don't all walk on the other side of the road. | |||
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"It's the world we asked for... Now we have it... sad, but true... I used to live in LA and people there compliment you randomly all the time, so you do the same... And it's kinda cool... You just pick something about the next person you see, that you like and fire away... They smile, you smile and moe on... But it's not something I would ever do here, especially not on the tube and especially not to a woman... Your just asking for trouble." | |||
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