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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Hello fabbers

I am here in that there London.

Sans Pooch he is staying with his best friends. Miss him.

I have noticed men down here dont stand up for ladies on the tube and give up. Their seats.

Real Men give up their seats or am i gentle welsh boy?

Ps

Wow for a guy who loves legs and a fetish for black nylon this place is heaven lol

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By *B9 QueenWoman  over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

I think the logical rule should be to stand up if someone is less able. For example, the elderly, parents with young children, the disabled, pregnant women. Women who are perfectly fit and able are quite capable of standing.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It can cause an inconvenience getting up and offering seats to people that don't need them during peak times. It's a pain when you're constantly shoved around.

Having said that, I was on crutches last year after dislocating my knee and no one offered a seat. Bastards.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

There are seats on all tube trains for the elderly, infirm or pregnant

You are well within your rights to ask someone to move

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

in london everyone seems to look after themselves on transport,or even in driving in london......

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

I cant just sit there and see a lady stand , just an old fashioned gent I guess

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman  over a year ago

little house on the praire

When I went to London for 5 days, literally every tube we got on where there where no seats people stood up to let us sit down, I did ask one man to move on a normal bus

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

thats london for you, I always offer my seat to a lady if she is standing.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I don't think their should be special rules for ladies per se.... Obviously if they're doable it's different.

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By *izzy RascallMan  over a year ago

Cardiff

Real men DO stand up, real Ladies DO stand up to fart in the bath

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

REAL ladies believe in equality and believe it's patronising to be treated as if they're disabled

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago
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"REAL ladies believe in equality and believe it's patronising to be treated as if they're disabled"

Then I'm not a real Lady,I think old fashioned chivalry is rather lovely

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Ahhh so equality goes out the window when you want a seat?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"REAL ladies believe in equality and believe it's patronising to be treated as if they're disabled

Then I'm not a real Lady,I think old fashioned chivalry is rather lovely "

I agree with you totally

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Haha

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

feeling like an old git now, but it's something I've seen change in my lifetime and still causes me to wonder if I am doing the right thing.

as a kid, it was drilled into me (from a matriarchy of extremely strong females), you stand up and offer your seat to any lady within sight,

then there was a feminist kickback, and quite rightly us hairy arsee blokes were challenged over why the hell we were treatting women like delicate China ornaments who needed special attention,

now it's had a resurgence of acceptability

as a simple guy aspiring to show his manners, it's now a dangerous judgement call!

personallly, my approach is anyone who looks to be old skool gets offered a seat.

please ladies, if we get the judgement wrong, indulge us, we are only trying to be gentlemen.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago
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"Ahhh so equality goes out the window when you want a seat?"

Don't think I said I wanted a seat?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Women have spoilt it for themselves if I get offered a seat I smile and say thank you.please do not let chivalry die

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Didn't realise having a vagina gives you some kind of higher status on public transport.

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Ahhh so equality goes out the window when you want a seat?"

on his lap........

thats whats was really go thru ya mind!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Back peddling much

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By *oobsandballsMan  over a year ago

st andrews

During rush hour I think it's everyone for themselves, but I have witnessed occasional acts of chivalry on the tube.

I do enjoy travelling by tube, you can tell I'm not a Londoner lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"When I went to London for 5 days, literally every tube we got on where there where no seats people stood up to let us sit down, I did ask one man to move on a normal bus"

You asked a man to move on the bus? Are you the Queen Mother or something?

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By *oobsandballsMan  over a year ago

st andrews


"feeling like an old git now, but it's something I've seen change in my lifetime and still causes me to wonder if I am doing the right thing.

as a kid, it was drilled into me (from a matriarchy of extremely strong females), you stand up and offer your seat to any lady within sight,

then there was a feminist kickback, and quite rightly us hairy arsee blokes were challenged over why the hell we were treatting women like delicate China ornaments who needed special attention,

now it's had a resurgence of acceptability

as a simple guy aspiring to show his manners, it's now a dangerous judgement call!

personallly, my approach is anyone who looks to be old skool gets offered a seat.

please ladies, if we get the judgement wrong, indulge us, we are only trying to be gentlemen. "

I think it's just down to basic manners really. I rarely travel by public transport, but whenever I'm on a bus I'm always watchful for the elderly, infirm, pregnant ladies etc. It should be about need, not gender.

And I always hold doors open for people

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Their isn't a woman in this thread who doesn't believe in equality in the work place..... Do the maths

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Hello fabbers

I am here in that there London.

Sans Pooch he is staying with his best friends. Miss him.

I have noticed men down here dont stand up for ladies on the tube and give up. Their seats.

Real Men give up their seats or am i gentle welsh boy?

Ps

Wow for a guy who loves legs and a fetish for black nylon this place is heaven lol "

Course they do - It's just not Cricket otherwise!!

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Hello fabbers

I am here in that there London.

Sans Pooch he is staying with his best friends. Miss him.

I have noticed men down here dont stand up for ladies on the tube and give up. Their seats.

Real Men give up their seats or am i gentle welsh boy?

Ps

Wow for a guy who loves legs and a fetish for black nylon this place is heaven lol

Course they do - It's just not Cricket otherwise!! "

Mr P a fellow gentleman,

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Nothing wrong being a gentleman

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

You can have equality or you can chivalry.... You can't have both, unless you're a hypocrite...... Or a man's a mug

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago
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"You can have equality or you can chivalry.... You can't have both, unless you're a hypocrite...... Or a man's a mug"

What a little ray of happy sunshine you are

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

im all for equality..

gents if there are no seats and i get on, you keep your bums sat down. You paid for a seat so enjoy it

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By *igeiaWoman  over a year ago

Bristol

If I'm travelling carrying a load of stuff (normally large musical instrument cases) then I appreciate the offer of a seat to ease my poor little back and shoulders. Otherwise I'll decline politely since I am capable of standing. Them again, I'll move if someone gets on that looks like they need the seat more but I always try and make it look as though I'm not moving for them in case it makes them feel awkward. Chivalry is alive and well in modern women.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago
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I don't expect a seat,I said I like old fashioned chivalry

Ill fight for a space with the rest of them on the tube or the bus,I will stand up for people that I think need the seat more than I do,I don't expect special treatment because I have a vagina though

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I will always stand for a lady or someone who is more deserving of the seat than I.

I will hold doors open for everyone, smile politely, offer my place in a queue to someone who looks like they really could do with moving forward.

I personally see it as basic politeness. I have had a lady kick off at me for offering my seat.

I do it because I want to.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

No one stands up for anyone on the tube. I was on a packed train one evening and a lady got on. She had her back to me for a couple of stops,then as people started getting off at a stop she turned and I saw her baby bump and she was wearing a TFL baby on board badge. I tapped her and said loudly would she like my seat. She looked relieved and said thank you and went to sit down. As I stood up a man the other side of me went to sit down so I positioned myself in between him and my seat so she could sit. People must have seen she was heavily pregnant before I noticed. I don't expect a man to stand for me but anyone should stand for people who obviously need the seat

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You can have equality or you can chivalry.... You can't have both, unless you're a hypocrite...... Or a man's a mug"

What a load of bull.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I think it's a bit weird and patronising to be offered a seat purely because I'm female?

If I was heavily pregnant, struggling with young kids with no seats either or disabled then that's a fab offer. But just because I'm female?

I'm gonna start offering my seat to perfectly healthy-looking men when they get on the bus and see what weird and wonderful reactions I get.

I try and hold open doors for guys occasionally too - when I get a chance.

Surely it's about being nice to each other in general?

(And it'd be lovely if women and men got paid the same too. )

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I think the logical rule should be to stand up if someone is less able. For example, the elderly, parents with young children, the disabled, pregnant women. Women who are perfectly fit and able are quite capable of standing. "

Damn right. TRUE equality is how it should be!!

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman  over a year ago

little house on the praire


"When I went to London for 5 days, literally every tube we got on where there where no seats people stood up to let us sit down, I did ask one man to move on a normal bus

You asked a man to move on the bus? Are you the Queen Mother or something? "

no just was with someone older who wanted to sit in the seat that was designated for him and not a 30 something year old man

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By *hetalkingstoveMan  over a year ago

London

Chivalry isn't actually a particularly good thing. It's an old fashioned attitude that says that women need to be protected and aren't capable of looking after themselves.

People should give up their seat for someone who needs it, for whatever reason. But not because they just happen to have boobs.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Women have spoilt it for themselves if I get offered a seat I smile and say thank you.please do not let chivalry die"

No feminazis have spoilt it for women. I believe in equality between the sexes but I also believe feminazis dont want equality at all they want superiority!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I will always stand for a lady or someone who is more deserving of the seat than I.

I will hold doors open for everyone, smile politely, offer my place in a queue to someone who looks like they really could do with moving forward.

I personally see it as basic politeness. I have had a lady kick off at me for offering my seat.

I do it because I want to. "

do you not see how patronising, even disrespectful, your first sentence was?

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman  over a year ago

little house on the praire


"Women have spoilt it for themselves if I get offered a seat I smile and say thank you.please do not let chivalry die

No feminazis have spoilt it for women. I believe in equality between the sexes but I also believe feminazis dont want equality at all they want superiority!! "

couldn't agree more

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By *londeCazWoman  over a year ago

Arse End of the Universe, Cumbria

I'll always offer my seat to anyone who looks like they need it more than me, regardless of gender...equally, I'm happy to park my fat arse if an offer is made, but then my first statement would stand should someone looking more in need board the train or bus

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

So can chivalry and equality not co-exist?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago
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"So can chivalry and equality not co-exist?"

Not in some peoples minds

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I will always stand for a lady or someone who is more deserving of the seat than I.

I will hold doors open for everyone, smile politely, offer my place in a queue to someone who looks like they really could do with moving forward.

I personally see it as basic politeness. I have had a lady kick off at me for offering my seat.

I do it because I want to. do you not see how patronising, even disrespectful, your first sentence was?"

Actually I don't.

please explain?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Why do women deserve seats more than men?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I will always stand for a lady or someone who is more deserving of the seat than I.

I will hold doors open for everyone, smile politely, offer my place in a queue to someone who looks like they really could do with moving forward.

I personally see it as basic politeness. I have had a lady kick off at me for offering my seat.

I do it because I want to. do you not see how patronising, even disrespectful, your first sentence was?

Actually I don't.

please explain?"

you're grouping women with the old the infirmed the needy

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Why do women deserve seats more than men?"

They don't but it could be _iewed as simply a courtesy

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Why do women deserve seats more than men?

They don't but it could be _iewed as simply a courtesy "

Could you imagine if all the women started giving up their seats for men because it was just courtesy.

None of us would ever fucking sit down.

Except me, because I'm an arsehole.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Why do women deserve seats more than men?

They don't but it could be _iewed as simply a courtesy

Could you imagine if all the women started giving up their seats for men because it was just courtesy.

None of us would ever fucking sit down.

Except me, because I'm an arsehole."

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman  over a year ago

little house on the praire

Well I'm a woman that hopes men never stop being chivalrous, but sadly they will due to the reaction they now get.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So can chivalry and equality not co-exist?"
not according to todays females, considering these responses

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Well I'm a woman that hopes men never stop being chivalrous, but sadly they will due to the reaction they now get.

"

I don't think I'll stop I'm too stuck in my ways

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman  over a year ago

little house on the praire

If you put a thread up about women showing a bit of cleavage to get the car repaired cheaply see how many women would want equality then

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

You know, we use the word chivalry without actually knowing really what it means:

Thou shalt believe all that the Church teaches and thou shalt observe all its directions (Believe the Church's teachings and observe all the Church's directions).

Thou shalt defend the Church (Defend the Church).

Thou shalt respect all weaknesses, and shalt constitute thyself the defender of them (Respect and defend all weaknesses).

Thou shalt love the country in which thou wast born (Love your country).

Thou shalt not recoil before thine enemy.

Thou shalt make war against the infidel without cessation and without mercy (Show no mercy to the infidel. Do not hesitate to make war with them).

Thou shalt perform scrupulously thy feudal duties, if they be not contrary to the laws of God (Perform all your feudal duties as long as they do not conflict with the laws of God).

Thou shalt never lie, and shalt remain faithful to thy pledged word (Never lie or go back on one's word).

Thou shalt be generous, and give largesse to everyone (Be generous to everyone).

Thou shalt be everywhere and always the champion of the Right and the Good against Injustice and Evil (Always and everywhere be right and good against evil and injustice).

So according to that... be religious... don't hesitate to start wars.. don't lie (lots of guys on here are fucked then)... and be generous to EVERYONE. Nothing about being nice specifically to women at all. Unless you interpret women as a 'weakness'.

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By *ickawitchCouple  over a year ago

Away with the fairies (Liverpool to you)


"I will always stand for a lady or someone who is more deserving of the seat than I.

I will hold doors open for everyone, smile politely, offer my place in a queue to someone who looks like they really could do with moving forward.

I personally see it as basic politeness. I have had a lady kick off at me for offering my seat.

I do it because I want to. "

If I am in a bus and an older or wobbly looking person get on (regardless of their sex) I will offer my seat, same for anyone with children or pregnant women. I think it is good manners to do so. If someone gives up their seat for me I would thank them kindly. Same for if they hold a door.... I would never take it for anything other than politeness

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If you put a thread up about women showing a bit of cleavage to get the car repaired cheaply see how many women would want equality then

"

I'd be horrified if anyone ever suggested I'd do that actually. Don't judge everyone by your own standards.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

How chivalry and equality coexist...... They're polar opposites

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

*can

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You know, we use the word chivalry without actually knowing really what it means:

Thou shalt believe all that the Church teaches and thou shalt observe all its directions (Believe the Church's teachings and observe all the Church's directions).

Thou shalt defend the Church (Defend the Church).

Thou shalt respect all weaknesses, and shalt constitute thyself the defender of them (Respect and defend all weaknesses).

Thou shalt love the country in which thou wast born (Love your country).

Thou shalt not recoil before thine enemy.

Thou shalt make war against the infidel without cessation and without mercy (Show no mercy to the infidel. Do not hesitate to make war with them).

Thou shalt perform scrupulously thy feudal duties, if they be not contrary to the laws of God (Perform all your feudal duties as long as they do not conflict with the laws of God).

Thou shalt never lie, and shalt remain faithful to thy pledged word (Never lie or go back on one's word).

Thou shalt be generous, and give largesse to everyone (Be generous to everyone).

Thou shalt be everywhere and always the champion of the Right and the Good against Injustice and Evil (Always and everywhere be right and good against evil and injustice).

So according to that... be religious... don't hesitate to start wars.. don't lie (lots of guys on here are fucked then)... and be generous to EVERYONE. Nothing about being nice specifically to women at all. Unless you interpret women as a 'weakness'."

Then again these days it could simply mean courteous behaviour rather than the mediaeval code

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Totally

And for OAP's

Mothers with children

It all good manners - there totally free and people should you them as much as the can you might be surprised what it does for ur spirit

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"How chivalry and equality coexist...... They're polar opposites"

Blending polar opposites is a particular speciality

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Then again these days it could simply mean courteous behaviour rather than the mediaeval code "

I believe it would be more courteous to treat all human beings with equal respect, than to single out one particular subsection of society based on if they reckon they might have an inney or an outey.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You know, we use the word chivalry without actually knowing really what it means:

Thou shalt believe all that the Church teaches and thou shalt observe all its directions (Believe the Church's teachings and observe all the Church's directions).

Thou shalt defend the Church (Defend the Church).

Thou shalt respect all weaknesses, and shalt constitute thyself the defender of them (Respect and defend all weaknesses).

Thou shalt love the country in which thou wast born (Love your country).

Thou shalt not recoil before thine enemy.

Thou shalt make war against the infidel without cessation and without mercy (Show no mercy to the infidel. Do not hesitate to make war with them).

Thou shalt perform scrupulously thy feudal duties, if they be not contrary to the laws of God (Perform all your feudal duties as long as they do not conflict with the laws of God).

Thou shalt never lie, and shalt remain faithful to thy pledged word (Never lie or go back on one's word).

Thou shalt be generous, and give largesse to everyone (Be generous to everyone).

Thou shalt be everywhere and always the champion of the Right and the Good against Injustice and Evil (Always and everywhere be right and good against evil and injustice).

So according to that... be religious... don't hesitate to start wars.. don't lie (lots of guys on here are fucked then)... and be generous to EVERYONE. Nothing about being nice specifically to women at all. Unless you interpret women as a 'weakness'."

Starburst moment!

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman  over a year ago

little house on the praire


"If you put a thread up about women showing a bit of cleavage to get the car repaired cheaply see how many women would want equality then

I'd be horrified if anyone ever suggested I'd do that actually. Don't judge everyone by your own standards."

I certainly wouldn't do it, but there are plenty of so called feminists on here who have admitted to doing such thing or similar or using their womanly charms and then they expect to be taken seriously

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"How chivalry and equality coexist...... They're polar opposites

Blending polar opposites is a particular speciality "

haha

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman  over a year ago

little house on the praire


"You know, we use the word chivalry without actually knowing really what it means:

Thou shalt believe all that the Church teaches and thou shalt observe all its directions (Believe the Church's teachings and observe all the Church's directions).

Thou shalt defend the Church (Defend the Church).

Thou shalt respect all weaknesses, and shalt constitute thyself the defender of them (Respect and defend all weaknesses).

Thou shalt love the country in which thou wast born (Love your country).

Thou shalt not recoil before thine enemy.

Thou shalt make war against the infidel without cessation and without mercy (Show no mercy to the infidel. Do not hesitate to make war with them).

Thou shalt perform scrupulously thy feudal duties, if they be not contrary to the laws of God (Perform all your feudal duties as long as they do not conflict with the laws of God).

Thou shalt never lie, and shalt remain faithful to thy pledged word (Never lie or go back on one's word).

Thou shalt be generous, and give largesse to everyone (Be generous to everyone).

Thou shalt be everywhere and always the champion of the Right and the Good against Injustice and Evil (Always and everywhere be right and good against evil and injustice).

So according to that... be religious... don't hesitate to start wars.. don't lie (lots of guys on here are fucked then)... and be generous to EVERYONE. Nothing about being nice specifically to women at all. Unless you interpret women as a 'weakness'."

what a load of rubbish, everyone on here is using the same meaning for chivalry on here

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"what a load of rubbish, everyone on here is using the same meaning for chivalry on here"

I'm just saying...

Is it really all that great to be proud of a kind of behaviour that has it's roots in murder, rape and defending the faith?

Or should we just be decent to all humans insteaD?

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman  over a year ago

little house on the praire


"what a load of rubbish, everyone on here is using the same meaning for chivalry on here

I'm just saying...

Is it really all that great to be proud of a kind of behaviour that has it's roots in murder, rape and defending the faith?

Or should we just be decent to all humans insteaD?"

seriously, listen to yourself

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman  over a year ago

little house on the praire


"what a load of rubbish, everyone on here is using the same meaning for chivalry on here

I'm just saying...

Is it really all that great to be proud of a kind of behaviour that has it's roots in murder, rape and defending the faith?

Or should we just be decent to all humans insteaD?"

then people wonder why the feminists don't get taken seriously

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"what a load of rubbish, everyone on here is using the same meaning for chivalry on here

I'm just saying...

Is it really all that great to be proud of a kind of behaviour that has it's roots in murder, rape and defending the faith?

Or should we just be decent to all humans insteaD?then people wonder why the feminists don't get taken seriously"

Where did feminists come into this?

You don't have to be a feminist to think that you should treat all humans equally.

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By *eithoWoman  over a year ago

Chatham


"REAL ladies believe in equality and believe it's patronising to be treated as if they're disabled"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Poor women and their pathetically weak legs

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Poor women and their pathetically weak legs "

Every time I try to drag myself out of bed in the morning I am ashamed that I cannot stand. I look in jealousy as my big strong man gets up out of the other side of the bed, while I have to drag myself about on these weak and barely functioning appendages.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman  over a year ago

little house on the praire


"REAL ladies believe in equality and believe it's patronising to be treated as if they're disabled"
isn't that irony in itself. Isn't the word lady supposed to mean the weaker sex, need looking after or haven't you had the latest list of buzz words

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I will always stand for a lady or someone who is more deserving of the seat than I.

I will hold doors open for everyone, smile politely, offer my place in a queue to someone who looks like they really could do with moving forward.

I personally see it as basic politeness. I have had a lady kick off at me for offering my seat.

I do it because I want to. do you not see how patronising, even disrespectful, your first sentence was?

Actually I don't.

please explain?

you're grouping women with the old the infirmed the needy"

You are reading what you want to see, not what I wrote.

I indicated two groups. Ladies OR those more deserving.

That is not grouping them together.

Say, for arguments sake, 1/3 of ladies think it is patronising, 1/3 expect it as a matter of course, 1/3 aren't fussed. I'm not psychic, so I gamble. Majority of the time the gesture is appreciated.

I also said more deserving. I did not define my criteria, you put your own criteria on it.

I may be sub and everyone is more deserving than me.

I detect the whiff of White knight about your comment.

I think it is basic manners to stand for others but I may be wrong.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Poor women and their pathetically weak legs

Every time I try to drag myself out of bed in the morning I am ashamed that I cannot stand. I look in jealousy as my big strong man gets up out of the other side of the bed, while I have to drag myself about on these weak and barely functioning appendages."

So sad

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

I think it is basic manners to stand for others but I may be wrong."

But as I said, if standing for others is basic manners, then nobody would ever sit down on public transport.

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By *ourglasgowguyMan  over a year ago

Glasgow

I've been on the receiving end of the kind of sarcastic comments given here when I've offered a seat in the past, maybe twice.

However in 20 something years of being inclined to give up my seat I can put up with the 1 or 2 that take offence.

I think it also depends upon how you do it, I tend to offer it through eye contact, then stand as if I might be leaving at the next stop, I then walk away (if possible) and stand away from her so it doesn't make it look like I've given up my seat.

As for the 1 or 2 abusive reactions I've had, I've taken on the chin and thought to myself they probably felt just as patronised by me offering the seat as I was by their reaction.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Since I usually wear heels when out I love to take the weight off my feet for a few minutes! Whenever I have been on the tube ive had lovely men give up seats for me then given them a wonderful smile and had a little chat & flirt made the day much more pleasant!

Mr freddie flintoff himself let me have his seat on the tube last time i was down

I for one hate feminism.. I like men holding doors and buying dinner! Give me a gentleman anyday!

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By *ady G and GTCouple  over a year ago

Coventry


"REAL ladies believe in equality and believe it's patronising to be treated as if they're disabled

Then I'm not a real Lady,I think old fashioned chivalry is rather lovely "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"REAL ladies believe in equality and believe it's patronising to be treated as if they're disabledisn't that irony in itself. Isn't the word lady supposed to mean the weaker sex, need looking after or haven't you had the latest list of buzz words"
is that the best you can pull out of that..... I mean what a pathetic come back

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By *iewMan  over a year ago
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Angus & Findhorn

real men

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By *issHottieBottieWoman  over a year ago

Kent

It would be lovely for a chap to offer me his seat but I wouldn't take it unless I had my lad with me as that's just safer than trying to keep hold of him on a moving bus. My legs work just fine. So until they don't I can stand up

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By *iss_Samantha_LovecockTV/TS  over a year ago

bmth /poole sometimes blandford

only if their disabled or old

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By *eithoWoman  over a year ago

Chatham

Can't see how women will ever earn the same as men and be taken seriously in the work place as equals if this kind of thing persists. Say we do achieve full economic and employment equality AND we still expect to be offered seats, free meals etc I can only imagine the outcry! We already have a misogynist political party fighting back against the supposed 'feminist oppression' of men.

I'd like to be treated as an equal, at work, at home and on the tube thanks.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago
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I havn't seen a single post in this thread from a woman saying they expect to be treated differently because they're female

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Can't see how women will ever earn the same as men and be taken seriously in the work place as equals if this kind of thing persists. Say we do achieve full economic and employment equality AND we still expect to be offered seats, free meals etc I can only imagine the outcry! We already have a misogynist political party fighting back against the supposed 'feminist oppression' of men.

I'd like to be treated as an equal, at work, at home and on the tube thanks."

I will always offer my seat to someone elderly, on crutches, pregant or with kids. They nearly always accept. When I offer to an able bodied woman they nearly always refuse. I guess equality is alive and kicking in London.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

This equality lark is all a bit of a minefield isn't it, would all those who take offense at a harmless gesture insist on kipping on the floor at a mates while a guy nabs the sofa?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I havn't seen a single post in this thread from a woman saying they expect to be treated differently because they're female"

When did it become so wrong for a man to be a gentleman?

While I agree women are perfectly capable of standing.

This however does not mean that if a man who is mearly trying to be nice,shouldn't accept the offer and take the seat.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

If I was on a train /bus etc...

And there happened to be a lady standing, maybe looking a little tired from a busy day at work or stressed. I would offer her a seat.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman  over a year ago

little house on the praire

I do hope all the guys who do give up there seat on this thread don't stop and all the ladies who wouldn't take it smile and say no thank you.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago
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"I havn't seen a single post in this thread from a woman saying they expect to be treated differently because they're female

When did it become so wrong for a man to be a gentleman?

While I agree women are perfectly capable of standing.

This however does not mean that if a man who is mearly trying to be nice,shouldn't accept the offer and take the seat. "

I agree,I thinks it sad that nice gestures can't be made or recieved without cynicism or animosity

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If I was on a train /bus etc...

And there happened to be a lady standing, maybe looking a little tired from a busy day at work or stressed. I would offer her a seat. "

So would I,and for a tired looking man too;I know what it's like to be shattered with an aching body standing on a bus or train. As for real men,a real man would take me to bed and make me feel like a woman

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I obviously come from a bygone age.

I agree totally that there has to be equality, however if I offer my seat as a well intentioned gesture to others, I do not do it to opress or to stake my male dominance over the "weaker sex".

I do not force them to take the seat. I merely offer an opportunity to have a seat where otherwise there may not have been.

should I not leave a tip for female staff in restaurants, just case I am reinforcing the _iew that I am financially dominant?

I thought it was politeness. I can hear the click of block buttons already. It is simply my _iew, its something I do. I don't expect everyone to like it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"REAL ladies believe in equality and believe it's patronising to be treated as if they're disabled"

You shouldn't offer your seat because they are a female you should offer your seat because you're a gentleman.

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By *ere-for-my-convenienceWoman  over a year ago

West Midlands


"REAL ladies believe in equality and believe it's patronising to be treated as if they're disabled

You shouldn't offer your seat because they are a female you should offer your seat because you're a gentleman. "

Point well made x

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman  over a year ago

little house on the praire


"I obviously come from a bygone age.

I agree totally that there has to be equality, however if I offer my seat as a well intentioned gesture to others, I do not do it to opress or to stake my male dominance over the "weaker sex".

I do not force them to take the seat. I merely offer an opportunity to have a seat where otherwise there may not have been.

should I not leave a tip for female staff in restaurants, just case I am reinforcing the _iew that I am financially dominant?

I thought it was politeness. I can hear the click of block buttons already. It is simply my _iew, its something I do. I don't expect everyone to like it."

don't worry I come from the dinosaurs as well

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Several years ago while working in London funnily enough. I was working in a swish office doing a big refurbishment.

I had to go to the reception desk to inform the receptionist of a delivery blah blah blah...

On way through the offices I stopped to hold a door open for a lady. She was neither attractive or unattractive, early 40's I was not trying to flirt or carry favour.

Mearly holding open the door same as i would for anyone.

Well the look she gave me, then she proceeded to fly into a tirade of abuse about me being a sexiest pig.

I just let the door go, knocking her backwards.

I wonder had I been in a suit and tie and not some grotty looking oik in builder's clothing would she have treated me with such disrespect?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I havn't seen a single post in this thread from a woman saying they expect to be treated differently because they're female

When did it become so wrong for a man to be a gentleman?

While I agree women are perfectly capable of standing.

This however does not mean that if a man who is mearly trying to be nice,shouldn't accept the offer and take the seat. "

It's not a problem, as long as you would offer it to a man as well.

I like standing on trains - two weeks ago I was called an 'ungrateful feminazi bitch' because I refused a man's offer of a seat. All I had said was 'I'm fine thanks' and stayed standing where I was. I'd been sat in six hours of lectures by that point - I didn't want to sit down some more!

I noticed that he didn't offer the seat to the man also standing next to me, who looked far more shattered than myself.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Several years ago while working in London funnily enough. I was working in a swish office doing a big refurbishment.

I had to go to the reception desk to inform the receptionist of a delivery blah blah blah...

On way through the offices I stopped to hold a door open for a lady. She was neither attractive or unattractive, early 40's I was not trying to flirt or carry favour.

Mearly holding open the door same as i would for anyone.

Well the look she gave me, then she proceeded to fly into a tirade of abuse about me being a sexiest pig.

I just let the door go, knocking her backwards.

I wonder had I been in a suit and tie and not some grotty looking oik in builder's clothing would she have treated me with such disrespect? "

Good for you!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"REAL ladies believe in equality and believe it's patronising to be treated as if they're disabled

You shouldn't offer your seat because they are a female you should offer your seat because you're a gentleman. "

I knew there was a catch

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By *egasus NobMan  over a year ago

Merton


"Didn't realise having a vagina gives you some kind of higher status on public transport. "

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By *icked weaselCouple  over a year ago

Near Edinburgh..

Has Anyone ever held the door open - only to be left standing there holding the door open for dozens of people..

Happened to hubby the other week and it was so funny..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I only give up my seat for the elderly and disabled, the power of the vagina has nothing against me.........

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

You're not from round here are you, lol.

The London Underground is a little like fab - a law unto itself.

Particularly during the rush hour.

Most of the time it just isn't practical.

Imagine the scenario.

Bloke get on near empty carriage out in the suburbs. As it gets closer into the city it begins to fill up. When there are no seats left, he stands to allow a lady who's just got on to sit down. Five stops along she gets off, but he still has further to travel. A lot of pushing and squeezing for her to get off from being seated, than if she'd stood nearer the door in the first place.

It seems odd to out of towners but it works

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By *UNCHBOXMan  over a year ago

folkestone

London does have some of the rudest and ignorant people traveling on the underground/overground stations, especially the men. In the past ive seen big strapping men walk straight past an elderly woman struggling with a heavy suitcase and not offer to help lift it up the escalator(i did), or a mother who had to lift her pushchair up the stairs as there was no lift(i helped her). I always think if that was my mother/grandmother i'd like to think someone would offer to help.

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By *icketysplitsWoman  over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"Women have spoilt it for themselves if I get offered a seat I smile and say thank you.please do not let chivalry die

No feminazis have spoilt it for women. I believe in equality between the sexes but I also believe feminazis dont want equality at all they want superiority!! "

The what? What people bridle against is that in order to get equality (that is equal treatment) some has to lose their superior position.

I know a lot of feminists and I am proud to be one but not one I know wants superiority. What we want is balance. The world still isn't balanced. Even in the West.

As to the OP, I would thank you and let you sit. I go by the shoes rule as well as the less able. If someone looks like they are in uncomfortable shoes then I let them sit. If I'm feeling dizzy I try not to move too much so if I'm sitting it has to be someone less able for me to give up the seat.

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By *icketysplitsWoman  over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"Has Anyone ever held the door open - only to be left standing there holding the door open for dozens of people..

Happened to hubby the other week and it was so funny.. "

That happens to me a lot. I then have to make the decision to squeeze through and leave the door for someone else.

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By *icketysplitsWoman  over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"Since I usually wear heels when out I love to take the weight off my feet for a few minutes! Whenever I have been on the tube ive had lovely men give up seats for me then given them a wonderful smile and had a little chat & flirt made the day much more pleasant!

Mr freddie flintoff himself let me have his seat on the tube last time i was down

I for one hate feminism.. I like men holding doors and buying dinner! Give me a gentleman anyday! "

You hate feminism? Is this one of those "what's feminism ever done for me" type comments?

It's possible to be a feminist and be gracious when someone makes a nice gesture.

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By *B9 QueenWoman  over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"Women have spoilt it for themselves if I get offered a seat I smile and say thank you.please do not let chivalry die

No feminazis have spoilt it for women. I believe in equality between the sexes but I also believe feminazis dont want equality at all they want superiority!!

The what? What people bridle against is that in order to get equality (that is equal treatment) some has to lose their superior position.

I know a lot of feminists and I am proud to be one but not one I know wants superiority. What we want is balance. The world still isn't balanced. Even in the West.

As to the OP, I would thank you and let you sit. I go by the shoes rule as well as the less able. If someone looks like they are in uncomfortable shoes then I let them sit. If I'm feeling dizzy I try not to move too much so if I'm sitting it has to be someone less able for me to give up the seat.

"

And what is it with the feminazi handle? Comparing women who want equality (yes, really that is all we want) to those who tried to commit genocide against all the Jews in Europe doesn't win any arguments.

Nothing wrong with being a feminist.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Since I usually wear heels when out I love to take the weight off my feet for a few minutes! Whenever I have been on the tube ive had lovely men give up seats for me then given them a wonderful smile and had a little chat & flirt made the day much more pleasant!

Mr freddie flintoff himself let me have his seat on the tube last time i was down

I for one hate feminism.. I like men holding doors and buying dinner! Give me a gentleman anyday!

You hate feminism? Is this one of those "what's feminism ever done for me" type comments?

It's possible to be a feminist and be gracious when someone makes a nice gesture.

"

Nope its in that just from seeing these comments lots of men are put off being a gentleman for fear of abuse.. I love gentlemen and old fashioned ways!

I also hate when women tell me I shouldnt use my body to get what I want.. Screw that when theres a long queue at the bar i will use my wears to try and tempt the barman over

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Since I usually wear heels when out I love to take the weight off my feet for a few minutes! Whenever I have been on the tube ive had lovely men give up seats for me then given them a wonderful smile and had a little chat & flirt made the day much more pleasant!

Mr freddie flintoff himself let me have his seat on the tube last time i was down

I for one hate feminism.. I like men holding doors and buying dinner! Give me a gentleman anyday!

You hate feminism? Is this one of those "what's feminism ever done for me" type comments?

It's possible to be a feminist and be gracious when someone makes a nice gesture.

Nope its in that just from seeing these comments lots of men are put off being a gentleman for fear of abuse.. I love gentlemen and old fashioned ways!

I also hate when women tell me I shouldnt use my body to get what I want.. Screw that when theres a long queue at the bar i will use my wears to try and tempt the barman over "

Now there speaks a proper Bird, Know what you got and use it

Gimp

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By *icked weaselCouple  over a year ago

Near Edinburgh..


"Has Anyone ever held the door open - only to be left standing there holding the door open for dozens of people..

Happened to hubby the other week and it was so funny..

That happens to me a lot. I then have to make the decision to squeeze through and leave the door for someone else.

"

It was really Funny.. someone actually tipped him 50p..

He didn't look like a Door person dressed in jeans..

But the people just flowed thru lol

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By *ophieslutTV/TS  over a year ago

Central

Offer your support for others if they look like they need it, including your sear. I appreciate gentlemen offering their seat to me, it's a nice touch.

When I was younger it was a cast iron rule that kids gave their seats to adults on public transport. I don't see this too often now.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I give up the seats. I hold the doors. I carry the bags.

I'm still a Londoner. I may be just old fashioned then.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There are seats on all tube trains for the elderly, infirm or pregnant

You are well within your rights to ask someone to move"

Rules are for people not capable of making decisions for themselves, - gezz, it's hardly rocket science ........... to most

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By *edsBonkingMan  over a year ago

Near MK

I'm always a gent. Traditional values and would always give up my seat

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Having pretty much come back from a trip to London this week I was amazed at the amount of people that use the tube. I loved it! If a man had offered me his seat I would have thanked him and took it and then chatted to said man. Nothing wrong with being gentlemenly. I dont know why people get so offended by nice gestures. Yes I can stand up but why not accept someone's kindness. If a man holds a door open do you say no thanks I have arms? I love being treat by a gentleman.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Real men DO stand up, real Ladies DO stand up to fart in the bath"

But that spoils the fun!

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By *radleyandRavenCouple  over a year ago

Herts

I don't expect it if I don't need it, however, when I was heavily pregnant and on crutches I was surprised at just how many people sat there and watched you trying to manoeuvre to stay upright rather than offer help or offer a seat. I often had to ask.

But then again, I've had plenty of arguments on public transport when people have jumped into priority seats while elderly people are stood there trying not to fall over.

London is a very selfish place.

- Amy. x

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By *he tactile technicianMan  over a year ago

the good lands, the bad lands, the any where you may want me lands

Marshall makes his way straight to the priority seat and sticks his wet nose right up their crotch ready for me to follow by either poking the person in the eyes or giving them an accidental fondle, they quickly fly up out of the seat with embarrassment and scuttle off down the carriage all red faced and sheepish works everytime, I then sit down, pull the Metro out of my bag and start reading Hahahahahahhahahaha

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"REAL ladies believe in equality and believe it's patronising to be treated as if they're disabled

Then I'm not a real Lady,I think old fashioned chivalry is rather lovely "

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By *he tactile technicianMan  over a year ago

the good lands, the bad lands, the any where you may want me lands


"REAL ladies believe in equality and believe it's patronising to be treated as if they're disabled

Then I'm not a real Lady,I think old fashioned chivalry is rather lovely "

Tips hat to you and waits for you to exit train first

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago
Forum Mod


"REAL ladies believe in equality and believe it's patronising to be treated as if they're disabled

Then I'm not a real Lady,I think old fashioned chivalry is rather lovely

Tips hat to you and waits for you to exit train first "

See! Thats just completely charming,I have never had that happen to me from a man under the age of 70 but when it happens it melts my heart

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I go n sit down next to the Driver..After all i dont want to be back in the Carriage with the Chavs n RiffRaff do i

Gimp

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"thats london for you, I always offer my seat to a lady if she is standing."
The trouble here is its not London thats being discussed its a north south thing,having lived there for 15 yrs i noticed the people of the south were all for themselves and did not give a flying fuck about others.

The north is mainly a total reversal...London is a rotten place really and only good for work

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
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East Sussex


"thats london for you, I always offer my seat to a lady if she is standing.The trouble here is its not London thats being discussed its a north south thing,having lived there for 15 yrs i noticed the people of the south were all for themselves and did not give a flying fuck about others.

The north is mainly a total reversal...London is a rotten place really and only good for work "

You probably don't mean it this way but London doesn't represent the entire south.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"thats london for you, I always offer my seat to a lady if she is standing.The trouble here is its not London thats being discussed its a north south thing,having lived there for 15 yrs i noticed the people of the south were all for themselves and did not give a flying fuck about others.

The north is mainly a total reversal...London is a rotten place really and only good for work "

Many Londoners would disagree with that

Gimp

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple  over a year ago

Derbyshire

It's all too tricky for me, old-style values firmly taught by my Gran, but at the same time understanding the whole equality/patronising thing.

And don't even start on what happens when a man offers his seat to a pregnant lady only to discover that she isn't (regularly hear of that in the paper)

So I solve it by standing all the time unless the tube is less than half full.

Much less confrontational

Mr ddc

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Good morning fabbers

Blimey Charlie I have seemed to have opens a massive can of worms !

I will still stand for ladies on the tube, but I can appreciate that we are all equal .

X

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"thats london for you, I always offer my seat to a lady if she is standing.The trouble here is its not London thats being discussed its a north south thing,having lived there for 15 yrs i noticed the people of the south were all for themselves and did not give a flying fuck about others.

The north is mainly a total reversal...London is a rotten place really and only good for work "

What a load of bollocks, I've never heard so much shit in all my life.

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By *yrdwomanWoman  over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"Good morning fabbers

Blimey Charlie I have seemed to have opens a massive can of worms !

I will still stand for ladies on the tube, but I can appreciate that we are all equal .

X"

Would you be offended if the woman refused, or offered it to someone more in need?

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

London is lovely and the people here are jolly friendly .

I am from the North Of Wales.

I am in London on a break and every one here has been really kind and helpful.

North / south stereotyping doesn't help . We should all respect each other

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By *yrdwomanWoman  over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"thats london for you, I always offer my seat to a lady if she is standing.The trouble here is its not London thats being discussed its a north south thing,having lived there for 15 yrs i noticed the people of the south were all for themselves and did not give a flying fuck about others.

The north is mainly a total reversal...London is a rotten place really and only good for work "

I found Oxford to be much, much worse than London for that sort of thing. But then I adore London, and am not sure why not offering a tube seat to a fit and healthy woman is the epitome of bad manners.

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By *icketysplitsWoman  over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

It has been touched on earlier on this thread but people should understand London has 10 million people sloshing around at any one time.

Not all of them are Londoners. When you visit from elsewhere in the country you are applying a standard based on somewhere smaller, less densely occupied on a day to day level and with fewer visitors.

The Tube is a complex system and those on regular journeys understand how THEY negotiate it for their own comfort and peace of mind. I always stand in the middle of the carriage because I am less likely to be squashed against an armpit. That creates a problem when I need to get off but it works best for me.

A tourist may not have the same norms (most don't understand that we walk down the escalators on the left and only stand on the right or that stopping when you step off creates an accident) and see a seat they are in as their right.

It's a wonderful city and friendly if you but engage with people and don't judge it based on somewhere with 1 million people or under.

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By *ancs MinxWoman  over a year ago

Burnley


"I think the logical rule should be to stand up if someone is less able. For example, the elderly, parents with young children, the disabled, pregnant women. Women who are perfectly fit and able are quite capable of standing. "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"thats london for you, I always offer my seat to a lady if she is standing.The trouble here is its not London thats being discussed its a north south thing,having lived there for 15 yrs i noticed the people of the south were all for themselves and did not give a flying fuck about others.

The north is mainly a total reversal...London is a rotten place really and only good for work "

And the award for sweeping stamement of the thread goes to ^^

personally I'm more than happy to accept a seat on the tube if one is offered, likewise I'll give mine up if need be.

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By *he tactile technicianMan  over a year ago

the good lands, the bad lands, the any where you may want me lands


"

The Tube is a complex system

It's a wonderful city and friendly if you but engage with people and don't judge it based on somewhere with 1 million people or under.

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Complex? complete poppycock, the Underground is simple; even a Blind Man with a dog can get around it!!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

The Tube is a complex system

It's a wonderful city and friendly if you but engage with people and don't judge it based on somewhere with 1 million people or under.

Complex? complete poppycock, the Underground is simple; even a Blind Man with a dog can get around it!!! "

Tbh I found the tube very easy to navigate

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Oh dear

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I thought the tube was easy to use. And I'm an idiot when it comes to maps and stuff. Also I understand what the other poster said in regards to friendliness. You can't seem to strike up a conversation on the bus or have banter on a night out where up north you talk to everyone. Though when I did ask for directions etc the southerners were very helpful. And as I said earlier. if a man wants to be a gentleman and give me his seat. I'm goin. to let him

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Having lived and worked in London for 20 years I have noticed the following ,queuing is now almost non existent bus stops are a free for all. I will off a seat on a train,bus and tube provided they clearly need it, mostly people dont this. You hold a door open for someone mostly they do say thank you but that usually from British people who have been brought up that way the foreign business suits think your just a door stop. Unfortunately London is just full of rude people you just hope they are as rude in bed as they are in person.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Having lived and worked in London for 20 years I have noticed the following ,queuing is now almost non existent bus stops are a free for all. I will off a seat on a train,bus and tube provided they clearly need it, mostly people dont this. You hold a door open for someone mostly they do say thank you but that usually from British people who have been brought up that way the foreign business suits think your just a door stop. Unfortunately London is just full of rude people you just hope they are as rude in bed as they are in person."

If I hold a door for someone and they dont say anything I usually very loudly say 'The word is thank you' if they are going to be ignorant I will embarass them

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By *elkel1979Woman  over a year ago

Cumbria

Haha i will get slated for this but i find most Southerners are not thoughtful in that way. I travel to London a lot and men and women have seen me struggle at the tube/train station with cases and bags and just barge pass me. However Manchester and other Northern Cities I get offered help all the time. X

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"thats london for you, I always offer my seat to a lady if she is standing.The trouble here is its not London thats being discussed its a north south thing,having lived there for 15 yrs i noticed the people of the south were all for themselves and did not give a flying fuck about others.

The north is mainly a total reversal...London is a rotten place really and only good for work "

thats bollocks..

im a northener and have been darn sarf for over 25 years and worked in many parts of London in that time..

have also lived in the south west, north Yorks, abroad and was born and raised in the north west..

places are what you make it, people by and large are people the world over and you will get what you give with them and you will get out of a place more when you dont go there with misconceptions perhaps..

London is no different..

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By *elkel1979Woman  over a year ago

Cumbria

We all have our own opinions and experiences. I was brought up down South and lived up north for only 4 years. Give me the North any day much more friendlier and considerate.

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By *he tactile technicianMan  over a year ago

the good lands, the bad lands, the any where you may want me lands


"We all have our own opinions and experiences. I was brought up down South and lived up north for only 4 years. Give me the North any day much more friendlier and considerate."
trouble is you don't have such a fabulous underground like there is in London

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By *elkel1979Woman  over a year ago

Cumbria

Haha i dont need an underground and certainly dont miss it ?? x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Hands up who likes to change at Baker street?

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By *icketysplitsWoman  over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"

The Tube is a complex system

It's a wonderful city and friendly if you but engage with people and don't judge it based on somewhere with 1 million people or under.

Complex? complete poppycock, the Underground is simple; even a Blind Man with a dog can get around it!!! "

And yet people stop at the end of the escalators and get on the wrong trains.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"thats london for you, I always offer my seat to a lady if she is standing.The trouble here is its not London thats being discussed its a north south thing,having lived there for 15 yrs i noticed the people of the south were all for themselves and did not give a flying fuck about others.

The north is mainly a total reversal...London is a rotten place really and only good for work

What a load of bollocks, I've never heard so much shit in all my life. "

*see All Men Are Bastards thread.

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By *icketysplitsWoman  over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"Hands up who likes to change at Baker street?"

No one likes to change at Baker Street. Plus the inevitable, interminable wait just outside the station, which is only exceeded by the one at Paddington and leads to you missing your train to Exeter.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You know, we use the word chivalry without actually knowing really what it means:

Thou shalt believe all that the Church teaches and thou shalt observe all its directions (Believe the Church's teachings and observe all the Church's directions).

Thou shalt defend the Church (Defend the Church).

Thou shalt respect all weaknesses, and shalt constitute thyself the defender of them (Respect and defend all weaknesses).

Thou shalt love the country in which thou wast born (Love your country).

Thou shalt not recoil before thine enemy.

Thou shalt make war against the infidel without cessation and without mercy (Show no mercy to the infidel. Do not hesitate to make war with them).

Thou shalt perform scrupulously thy feudal duties, if they be not contrary to the laws of God (Perform all your feudal duties as long as they do not conflict with the laws of God).

Thou shalt never lie, and shalt remain faithful to thy pledged word (Never lie or go back on one's word).

Thou shalt be generous, and give largesse to everyone (Be generous to everyone).

Thou shalt be everywhere and always the champion of the Right and the Good against Injustice and Evil (Always and everywhere be right and good against evil and injustice).

So according to that... be religious... don't hesitate to start wars.. don't lie (lots of guys on here are fucked then)... and be generous to EVERYONE. Nothing about being nice specifically to women at all. Unless you interpret women as a 'weakness'."

did you google that

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Haha i will get slated for this but i find most Southerners are not thoughtful in that way. I travel to London a lot and men and women have seen me struggle at the tube/train station with cases and bags and just barge pass me. However Manchester and other Northern Cities I get offered help all the time. X"

But as a former Londoner I'm sure you must have realised that if no one rushed past people struggling suitcases & offered to give a hand, in a city with mass tourism, the tube just wouldn't work; it would slow the whole network down & even the network of walkways would come to a standstill.

It's always easier & people have more time in smaller towns & cities wherever you live around the world, - that's just the nature of the big city-beast!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


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did you google that "

Yes, I googled the exact wording of that reproduction of the chivalric code, however I've studied the subject too.

Do you think that Googling stuff to find out the exact wording is a problem for some reason? I find it rather helpful in circumstances like this. Far quicker than walking up three floors to find my book on it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

always offer my seat to a lady on a bus, train etc - was brought up that way

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By *icketysplitsWoman  over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

Coming back from a meeting (work not Fab) on the tube this evening and I saw the sweetest thing.

It wasn't a packed carriage (after 9pm on a Monday) but there was only one seat left and two young people (early 20s) got on through different doors and headed for the seat.

He offered her the seat and she declined. He sat down and thanked her. Some people got off and three seats became vacant. She sat in the one next to him and for the next six stops they chatted, flirted and giggled. Then he had to get off and he thanked her for making his day.

She spent the rest of the journey grinning like the Cheshire Cat.

I really hope they track each other down somehow as they really looked like they match each other (even their woolly hats were similar).

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Coming back from a meeting (work not Fab) on the tube this evening and I saw the sweetest thing.

It wasn't a packed carriage (after 9pm on a Monday) but there was only one seat left and two young people (early 20s) got on through different doors and headed for the seat.

He offered her the seat and she declined. He sat down and thanked her. Some people got off and three seats became vacant. She sat in the one next to him and for the next six stops they chatted, flirted and giggled. Then he had to get off and he thanked her for making his day.

She spent the rest of the journey grinning like the Cheshire Cat.

I really hope they track each other down somehow as they really looked like they match each other (even their woolly hats were similar).

"

Aww lovely that made me smile.too

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Hands up who likes to change at Baker street?"

Pink to brown...

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By *urvymamaWoman  over a year ago

Doncaster

Well im currently pregnant and there was a very frail eldery gentleman that got on my bus this morning zimmer frame in tow and i was the only one to offer him a seat he refused to take it from me given my condition, even though i insisted. There were many other able bodied people that could have offered to do so for him but they didnt i felt so sorry for him

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By *icketysplitsWoman  over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"Well im currently pregnant and there was a very frail eldery gentleman that got on my bus this morning zimmer frame in tow and i was the only one to offer him a seat he refused to take it from me given my condition, even though i insisted. There were many other able bodied people that could have offered to do so for him but they didnt i felt so sorry for him "

Doncaster isn't London - it can't have happened!

All you could do was offer and you did that.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan  over a year ago

here


"Well im currently pregnant and there was a very frail eldery gentleman that got on my bus this morning zimmer frame in tow and i was the only one to offer him a seat he refused to take it from me given my condition, even though i insisted. There were many other able bodied people that could have offered to do so for him but they didnt i felt so sorry for him "

Doesn't surprise me.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

There are some ridiculous "all southerners are horrible" statements coming through on this thread, but there's also some really patronising stuff from those who live in London about how the rest of us just don't understand because we're from small places. People can be arseholes in the North and arseholes in the South, there's nothing magic about London that either causes or excuses it.

I never take a seat if offered (in London or elsewhere) because I'm young and fit and don't need it more than anyone else. I'm certainly not affronted by being offered one though, it's just in some men's list of habits they've been brought up with.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Well im currently pregnant and there was a very frail eldery gentleman that got on my bus this morning zimmer frame in tow and i was the only one to offer him a seat he refused to take it from me given my condition, even though i insisted. There were many other able bodied people that could have offered to do so for him but they didnt i felt so sorry for him "

Doncaster is north I believe so it can't be true. You're all so friendly up there. Or was this a bus full of southerners ?

Well done for offering. I'm sure he appreciated the gesture.

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By *urvymamaWoman  over a year ago

Doncaster


"Well im currently pregnant and there was a very frail eldery gentleman that got on my bus this morning zimmer frame in tow and i was the only one to offer him a seat he refused to take it from me given my condition, even though i insisted. There were many other able bodied people that could have offered to do so for him but they didnt i felt so sorry for him

Doncaster is north I believe so it can't be true. You're all so friendly up there. Or was this a bus full of southerners ?

Well done for offering. I'm sure he appreciated the gesture. "

Evidently not everyone is. At the end of the day you get your good and your bad in all places

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Coming back from a meeting (work not Fab) on the tube this evening and I saw the sweetest thing.

It wasn't a packed carriage (after 9pm on a Monday) but there was only one seat left and two young people (early 20s) got on through different doors and headed for the seat.

He offered her the seat and she declined. He sat down and thanked her. Some people got off and three seats became vacant. She sat in the one next to him and for the next six stops they chatted, flirted and giggled. Then he had to get off and he thanked her for making his day.

She spent the rest of the journey grinning like the Cheshire Cat.

I really hope they track each other down somehow as they really looked like they match each other (even their woolly hats were similar).

"

I used to be a tube driver and I once had sex with someone I bumped into at work.

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I didn't get a blowjob though as I couldn't find their head.

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By *icketysplitsWoman  over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"Coming back from a meeting (work not Fab) on the tube this evening and I saw the sweetest thing.

It wasn't a packed carriage (after 9pm on a Monday) but there was only one seat left and two young people (early 20s) got on through different doors and headed for the seat.

He offered her the seat and she declined. He sat down and thanked her. Some people got off and three seats became vacant. She sat in the one next to him and for the next six stops they chatted, flirted and giggled. Then he had to get off and he thanked her for making his day.

She spent the rest of the journey grinning like the Cheshire Cat.

I really hope they track each other down somehow as they really looked like they match each other (even their woolly hats were similar).

I used to be a tube driver and I once had sex with someone I bumped into at work.

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I didn't get a blowjob though as I couldn't find their head. "

That's a terrible tube driver joke. I haven't heard that one in years.

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By *eliciouslyNastyMan  over a year ago

London

Meh... This is all indicative of a society where we have all been trained to be afraid of each other...

Men don't want to approch women out of context... For fear of a whole load of ball ache.

Peopl don't want to say anything to people with disabilities... For fear of pitying them.

Watch as you are beaten half to death and people just watch the show...

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By *icketysplitsWoman  over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"Meh... This is all indicative of a society where we have all been trained to be afraid of each other...

Men don't want to approch women out of context... For fear of a whole load of ball ache.

Peopl don't want to say anything to people with disabilities... For fear of pitying them.

Watch as you are beaten half to death and people just watch the show..."

That's a very sad, gloomy picture. We don't all walk on the other side of the road.

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By *eliciouslyNastyMan  over a year ago

London

It's the world we asked for... Now we have it...

sad, but true...

I used to live in LA and people there compliment you randomly all the time, so you do the same...

And it's kinda cool... You just pick something about the next person you see, that you like and fire away...

They smile, you smile and moe on...

But it's not something I would ever do here, especially not on the tube and especially not to a woman...

Your just asking for trouble.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It's the world we asked for... Now we have it...

sad, but true...

I used to live in LA and people there compliment you randomly all the time, so you do the same...

And it's kinda cool... You just pick something about the next person you see, that you like and fire away...

They smile, you smile and moe on...

But it's not something I would ever do here, especially not on the tube and especially not to a woman...

Your just asking for trouble."

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