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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Hi folks hope everyones ok 
Having driven manual cars all my life i thought driving a auto would be boring, but having had the x5 with a auto box for nearly a year i wouldnt go back.
Whats your thoughts? |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
"At work i drive both every day from basic models through to top of range cars , and i love flappy paddle gear box's best of both "
What's a flappy paddle gear box?
I like manuals for a fast getaway at lights but with the stop/start stuff of new cars I wonder if it makes any difference now. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Flappy paddle gear boxes give you the control found in a standard gear box -- a stick shift -- without the necessity of a manual clutch. An automatic transmission shifts on its own accord once the engine RPMs reach a certain speed; you having no control of the process. With a flappy paddle gear box, you shift from one gear to the next, but with your thumb. The clutch is actuated by electronics when you depress the gear button or switch. While a flappy paddle gear box is not as simple to use as an automatic transmission, it is hardly more difficult and gives you considerably more control. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'm not a fan of automatics, I like the feeling of driving a manual better. However I had the privilege of driving round Silverstone in a Ferrari, with a flappy paddle semi-automatic gearbox, and it was awesome!  |
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By *ocknrollerMan
over a year ago
Glasgow/Stirlingshire |
"I'm desperately needing a gearbox for my old (and up to now) trusty 93 Pajero. . Auto box is slipping badly.
But, it's 22years old and things wear out.
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lol sorry just sounded funny, being a 22 year old car. I've driven cars from the 40's and 50's with perfect manual gearboxes at 22 its just a baby lol
They dont build em like they used to |
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By *ina75Woman
over a year ago
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"At work i drive both every day from basic models through to top of range cars , and i love flappy paddle gear box's best of both
What's a flappy paddle gear box?
I like manuals for a fast getaway at lights but with the stop/start stuff of new cars I wonder if it makes any difference now."
Flappy paddle gearboxes are sequential gearboxes like motorcycle gearboxes.
The ratios are often closer together than the traditional gated gearbox, giving better control. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Driven both...don't like auto at all...not one bit..
But then I live in the stone age....I still get pissed off with electric windows and all the other crap they insist on shoving into modern heaps. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Hi folks hope everyones ok
Having driven manual cars all my life i thought driving a auto would be boring, but having had the x5 with a auto box for nearly a year i wouldnt go back.
Whats your thoughts?"
I'm exactly the same mate. Although I got a mondeo (sorry everyone but I'm a dad first  lol) where I live Theres a lot of clutch action and after a long day it makes it so much easier driving home. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'm desperately needing a gearbox for my old (and up to now) trusty 93 Pajero. . Auto box is slipping badly.
But, it's 22years old and things wear out.
lol sorry just sounded funny, being a 22 year old car. I've driven cars from the 40's and 50's with perfect manual gearboxes at 22 its just a baby lol
They dont build em like they used to "
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How many clutch's wore out in that 22 years then!. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"At work i drive both every day from basic models through to top of range cars , and i love flappy paddle gear box's best of both
What's a flappy paddle gear box?
I like manuals for a fast getaway at lights but with the stop/start stuff of new cars I wonder if it makes any difference now.
Flappy paddle gearboxes are sequential gearboxes like motorcycle gearboxes.
The ratios are often closer together than the traditional gated gearbox, giving better control. "
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No it's just the simplicity of pushing forward for up or pulling back for down, it's just a quicker method with less chance of mistakes than with an H pattern manual.
I've raced both in my younger days, you can set the ratios for either box to suit engine. |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
"Flappy paddle gear boxes give you the control found in a standard gear box -- a stick shift -- without the necessity of a manual clutch. An automatic transmission shifts on its own accord once the engine RPMs reach a certain speed; you having no control of the process. With a flappy paddle gear box, you shift from one gear to the next, but with your thumb. The clutch is actuated by electronics when you depress the gear button or switch. While a flappy paddle gear box is not as simple to use as an automatic transmission, it is hardly more difficult and gives you considerably more control."
Thank you.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'm desperately needing a gearbox for my old (and up to now) trusty 93 Pajero. . Auto box is slipping badly.
But, it's 22years old and things wear out.
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Tried changing the filter and oil in the box? I almost made that expensive mistake with mine. Slipping and hunting gears. Changed the filter and oil and good as new. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I'm desperately needing a gearbox for my old (and up to now) trusty 93 Pajero. . Auto box is slipping badly.
But, it's 22years old and things wear out
Tried changing the filter and oil in the box? I almost made that expensive mistake with mine. Slipping and hunting gears. Changed the filter and oil and good as new."
Thats what happens in the x5 i drive, then bmw want 4k for new box  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'm desperately needing a gearbox for my old (and up to now) trusty 93 Pajero. . Auto box is slipping badly.
But, it's 22years old and things wear out
Tried changing the filter and oil in the box? I almost made that expensive mistake with mine. Slipping and hunting gears. Changed the filter and oil and good as new.
Thats what happens in the x5 i drive, then bmw want 4k for new box "
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BMW used to seal there auto box's. Not sure if that's still the case. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Yes apparently sealed for life although they give up at 100k miles. Filter and oil change will help solve this though"
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Well I always thought it was just a con to make the boxs go wrong more.
I've had several auto box's with over 200,000 without a problem.
It's like these new cars and vans that only need the oil changing every 3 years! Sounds great but have you seen the cost of the oil. Fuck me it's a good job it is every three years  |
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my sister used to have a daf 44 it had a constant vario drive used to change the gear ratios as it felt like i.e. on a hill it would rev up but down hill revs went down it had a great big rubber band between two pulleys that moved in and out right weird driving experience |
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"Auto very relaxing to drive but only prefer them in bigger engined cars.Small cars seem to loose to much grunt."
I agree only on bigger cars and when in the mood for a relax drive (auto). It depends on the car had a mini manual and a auto one. Manual any day of the week!!
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By (user no longer on site)
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"my sister used to have a daf 44 it had a constant vario drive used to change the gear ratios as it felt like i.e. on a hill it would rev up but down hill revs went down it had a great big rubber band between two pulleys that moved in and out right weird driving experience"
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Honda?.
The gearless gearbox.
Fandangled bloody pieces of kit  |
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By *umpkinMan
over a year ago
near the sounds of the wimborne quarter jack! |
I`m on my second Land Rover Discovery 300TDI Auto and I`d have another like a shot! With the first one I pulled a loaded trailer weighing around 4 tons (shhhh!) up the A30 Causeway into Shaftesbury without any fuss. The current one was romping around a very soft and muddy car park at the Malvern showground when all the modern Jap stuff was being yanked out by tractors! And they were the ones on aggressive off-road tyres compared to the very on-road biased tyres on my Disco!
The tractor I drive has an epicyclic (sp?) gearbox which is basically a manually controlled auto  It does have a clutch but I can drive it totally clutch-less which whilst needing some real concentration when loading a trailer with the front loader, doesn`t half save the left knee, something most tractor drivers seem to suffer from! |
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"try driving an auto truck !ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh horrible things manual every time ta
Agreed. Stupid idea. Probably invented by Tesco."
just you wait till you have an electric one no gears at all
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By (user no longer on site)
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"my sister used to have a daf 44 it had a constant vario drive used to change the gear ratios as it felt like i.e. on a hill it would rev up but down hill revs went down it had a great big rubber band between two pulleys that moved in and out right weird driving experience.
Honda?.
The gearless gearbox.
Fandangled bloody pieces of kit "
Speaking of Hondas
Would an auto work with VTEC?
Mine doesn't even wake up till 3500rpm then switches cam at 5250.
Would an auto take it to 7000rpm seen as you have to rev the bollocks off a VTEC engine for it to do anything or change gear before.....never driven an auto as you can probably tell |
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By *heOwlMan
over a year ago
Altrincham |
"Hi folks hope everyones ok
Having driven manual cars all my life i thought driving a auto would be boring, but having had the x5 with a auto box for nearly a year i wouldnt go back.
Whats your thoughts?"
The wee buggie has a semi / full auto gear box and there is no way I would buy a manual again.
My left foot is supposed to be tapping along to t' music not playing with a clutch peddle :P
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I have no choice but to drive an auto. I only past my test in an auto.
I have knee problemd and found driving manuals painful.
I drive an auto 1.4 corsa 2005 reg it gets me from A-B as only zip around town, college, and gets the kids to where they wanna/need to be. It's not as zippy as the 206 I had that would shoot off. Sometimes this one takes a while to get going.
I still leave manuals behind me at the lights when pulling away. And I don't have to worry about stalking if I have a bit of a panic if I get some nutter pulling out in me.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I have no choice but to drive an auto. I only past my test in an auto.
I have knee problemd and found driving manuals painful.
I drive an auto 1.4 corsa 2005 reg it gets me from A-B as only zip around town, college, and gets the kids to where they wanna/need to be. It's not as zippy as the 206 I had that would shoot off. Sometimes this one takes a while to get going.
I still leave manuals behind me at the lights when pulling away. And I don't have to worry about stalking if I have a bit of a panic if I get some nutter pulling out in me.
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Pulling out in yer.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"my sister used to have a daf 44 it had a constant vario drive used to change the gear ratios as it felt like i.e. on a hill it would rev up but down hill revs went down it had a great big rubber band between two pulleys that moved in and out right weird driving experience.
Honda?.
The gearless gearbox.
Fandangled bloody pieces of kit
Speaking of Hondas
Would an auto work with VTEC?
Mine doesn't even wake up till 3500rpm then switches cam at 5250.
Would an auto take it to 7000rpm seen as you have to rev the bollocks off a VTEC engine for it to do anything or change gear before.....never driven an auto as you can probably tell "
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You get an auto to hold any rev range, they just make them to change at the most economical/ driving style. |
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By *londeCazWoman
over a year ago
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I was recommended by my doctors to get an auto...got a Kuga Titanium last year n I bloody love it - I'd never go back to a manual now. Having said that I think it may be difference of cars, I've driven a coupla Astra autos and think they're shite |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Much prefer driving Auto.
Makes me wonder really why us british in general aren't big fans though - especially guven our love of labour saving gadgets.
Autos are popular in the states. Why not have the car do the job of changing gear for you - allows you to concentrate more on the road. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I have no choice but to drive an auto. I only past my test in an auto.
I have knee problemd and found driving manuals painful.
I drive an auto 1.4 corsa 2005 reg it gets me from A-B as only zip around town, college, and gets the kids to where they wanna/need to be. It's not as zippy as the 206 I had that would shoot off. Sometimes this one takes a while to get going.
I still leave manuals behind me at the lights when pulling away. And I don't have to worry about stalking if I have a bit of a panic if I get some nutter pulling out in me.
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Pulling out in yer. "
Oh it's my predictive text on my phone. I always look like a knob like this lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I was recommended by my doctors to get an auto...got a Kuga Titanium last year n I bloody love it - I'd never go back to a manual now. Having said that I think it may be difference of cars, I've driven a coupla Astra autos and think they're shite"
I have a manual Kuga and love it!  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I was recommended by my doctors to get an auto...got a Kuga Titanium last year n I bloody love it - I'd never go back to a manual now. Having said that I think it may be difference of cars, I've driven a coupla Astra autos and think they're shite"
I want an astra  I learnt in a yaris I loved driving that. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I wanted to learn to drive an automatic car but everyone kept telling me to do a manual I d be driving now if I stuck to what I wanted"
Go back to trying an auto. I've tried many times in a manual but due to probs with my knees I was in too much pain. It took my 5months to pass in an auto and passed first time. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Auto every time,Having Driven since i was 12 and been blessed with the opportunity to drive most vehicles from an AC to a Veyron i cannot understand why anyone would pick a modern manual car..As for flappy Paddles Helllooo..Leave it in auto the computer can react quicker.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I've driven both most of my life,I do prefer my auto now with the mmt gearbox,has paddle shift on the steering wheel,and cruise control,so can't get much lazier than that........... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I've driven both most of my life,I do prefer my auto now with the mmt gearbox,has paddle shift on the steering wheel,and cruise control,so can't get much lazier than that..........."
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I make the wife drive!
I think you'll find that is both the laziest and craziest solution. |
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Having driven both I would say for the ultimate driving experience you want a manual car (I don't know of any racing cars with auto boxes).
But for relaxed cruising or blowjobs on the move auto is the way to go! The only drawback I can see is there is no vibrating gearknob for that special horsepower thrill when parked up in the dark in a quiet carpark surrounded by eager watchers flashing lights and hoping for a response! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Racing Cars arnt built for day to day Driving, Every Supercar comes with Auto as standard simply because the Computer can change gear quicker than any regular Joe |
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"Racing Cars arnt built for day to day Driving, Every Supercar comes with Auto as standard simply because the Computer can change gear quicker than any regular Joe"
Agreed about racing cars not being built for day to day driving (although there are some that use racing cars on the road every day). However I will have to disagree with you about all super-cars having having auto box computer options. Although all SAT (semi automatic (clutchless) transmissions) have this option not all super-cars are fitted with these transmissions. Two that have fully manual gearboxes that I know of are the 911 and the Gallardo. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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There's a lot of fabbers on this thread that need to get down to their GP's and tell him/her that they've lost all feeling in their right foot. Because I can select any gear I want with said right foot when driving an auto. Assuming that you wouldn't actually WANT to select 1st gear at 50+ mph of course.
You manual drivers are all in denial. Even the Formula one boys have had to concede. It's no contest! |
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By *jandjbCouple
over a year ago
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I believe I have the best of both worlds. I drive a 2litre automatic convertible Beetle. It looks really girly but drives like shit off a shovel! It has a tiptronic gear box which means I can drive it like a geared car without a clutch. I can zoom away whenever I want. But the best is driving it in sports mode on country roads. I can drive a geared car (and do) but I wouldn't swap my car for the world.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Auto every time for me.
Same here , really can't see the point of manual "
Maybe its more about the car as I feel I can leave people standing at traffic lights in a manual (some cars better than others) more than I can in my automatic (golf was poor, peugeot slightly better). As to cruising down the motorway, yes automatic is good and I'm quite surprised at how good my cheap little peugeot is but I once cruised at 90 mph in a vectra without realising it but couldn't do it in the proton. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Depends on the car:
Had a 2.8 BMW with semi-auto / auto gearbox and that just wafted along, so auto was perfect.
Currently have a civic with manual and while accelerating the vtec kicks in and you stay in gear, the revs hit 5k and you still don't change... You hit the red line, change up and hit the vtec range...
The right gearbox is the car's choice, not yours! |
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I think automatics need banning.
Ban the damn things