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 it's things like this makes me feel lucky. | |||
But it was a horrific accident. Such a tragedy | |||
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"I heard about the M40 crash and I have a friend that lives not far from the where it happened and often uses that stretch of road. When I text them and didn't hear from them for a while my heart sank.
But it was a horrific accident. Such a tragedy "1 died there and 6 have serious injuries. 3 died at the flitwick/m1 crash. No one on the coach was injured. The coach driver was arrested. | |||
"Don't know if you're aware but a few people died in big traffic accidents on the motorways yesterday. I happened to be stuck in traffic going southbound on the m1 because of rubbernecking. The aftermath of the accident there was horrific to see and really shocked me. A car was struck by a coach when it was on the hard shoulder and the state the car was in, no one could have survived that. Remember your life expectancy dwindles to just 11 MINUTES on the hard shoulder. If you need to use it, please, please, please get out of your car ASAP and get to safety, as far away from your vehicle as possible! RIP poor souls! My thoughts are with their families and friends. And I hope those involved get over the trauma soon. " Saw it on the news whilst bowling R.I.P X | |||
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"sorry mate i didnt see you! i must here that ten times a day of bad drivers! im a cyclist "It's terrible. I'm always alert to cyclists and motorcyclists. Strange how the motorways are the safest places to drive but the hard shoulders are so deadly. | |||
"sorry mate i didnt see you! i must here that ten times a day of bad drivers! im a cyclist "I always try to be aware of cyclists and give them plenty of room as they are the most vulnerable road users. However, I have had a few near misses with people on bikes (I won't call them cyclists) who I've only seen at the last minute as they were wearing dark clothing, at night with no lights. One was even cycling towards me in the middle of a one way road (so, obviously, he was going the wrong way). Another was a young man cycling on the pavement who decided, without warning, to pop onto the road right in front of me. I've seen buses come so close alongside cyclists that I've half expected them to be crushed. | |||
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"Whilst its sad that the rtc on the M40 was a fatal, that there were 40 vehicles involved and the conditions were heavy fog tells us that it was just bad driving that led to most of them being involved.. stay safe.." . Too fast, too close. We've all seen it, people bombing along in rain and spray 35 feet from the car in front!. In fact most times I travel on the motorway I wonder how is it possible there isn't a pile up every day.  | |||
"Whilst its sad that the rtc on the M40 was a fatal, that there were 40 vehicles involved and the conditions were heavy fog tells us that it was just bad driving that led to most of them being involved.. stay safe... Too fast, too close. We've all seen it, people bombing along in rain and spray 35 feet from the car in front!. In fact most times I travel on the motorway I wonder how is it possible there isn't a pile up every day. "agreed.. and when you leave a gap some muppet undertakes.. | |||
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"Whilst its sad that the rtc on the M40 was a fatal, that there were 40 vehicles involved and the conditions were heavy fog tells us that it was just bad driving that led to most of them being involved.. stay safe... Too fast, too close. We've all seen it, people bombing along in rain and spray 35 feet from the car in front!. In fact most times I travel on the motorway I wonder how is it possible there isn't a pile up every day.
agreed..
and when you leave a gap some muppet undertakes..
"I always leave a gap. If someone undertakes it's no skin off my nose. I just drop back to a safe distance. It's not going to make much difference to my journey time. The worst is people in the inside lane who don't leave gaps at slip roads so others can merge into traffic safely. | |||
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"3 West Ham fans died on there way up to the match yesterday so guess they were in one of those incidents.... So sad" Yes the West Ham fans were the ones hit by the coach. Very sad. Minutes applause being organised for next Sunday's game at White hart lane. Most teams fans pages are paying respect. Football fans are a nice bunch. | |||
"Whilst its sad that the rtc on the M40 was a fatal, that there were 40 vehicles involved and the conditions were heavy fog tells us that it was just bad driving that led to most of them being involved.. stay safe... Too fast, too close. We've all seen it, people bombing along in rain and spray 35 feet from the car in front!. In fact most times I travel on the motorway I wonder how is it possible there isn't a pile up every day.
agreed..
and when you leave a gap some muppet undertakes..
"Ever considered that *muppets* couldn't undertake if *MUPPETS* didn't coast along in the midle lane and actually drobve to the rules? All M'Way drivers have a responsibility to prevent accidents. | |||
"Whilst its sad that the rtc on the M40 was a fatal, that there were 40 vehicles involved and the conditions were heavy fog tells us that it was just bad driving that led to most of them being involved.. stay safe... Too fast, too close. We've all seen it, people bombing along in rain and spray 35 feet from the car in front!. In fact most times I travel on the motorway I wonder how is it possible there isn't a pile up every day.
agreed..
and when you leave a gap some muppet undertakes..
Ever considered that *muppets* couldn't undertake if *MUPPETS* didn't coast along in the midle lane and actually drobve to the rules?
All M'Way drivers have a responsibility to prevent accidents. "how stupid are you..? maybe i should have clarified so you didn't have to make a gross assumption but i was talking about the outside lane.. of course i agree with your last bleedingly obvious statement, then again being an ex hgv driving instructor, efad and advanced motorist at car, bike and hgv level i would do wouldn't i.. | |||
"Whilst its sad that the rtc on the M40 was a fatal, that there were 40 vehicles involved and the conditions were heavy fog tells us that it was just bad driving that led to most of them being involved.. stay safe... Too fast, too close. We've all seen it, people bombing along in rain and spray 35 feet from the car in front!. In fact most times I travel on the motorway I wonder how is it possible there isn't a pile up every day.
agreed..
and when you leave a gap some muppet undertakes..
Ever considered that *muppets* couldn't undertake if *MUPPETS* didn't coast along in the midle lane and actually drobve to the rules?
All M'Way drivers have a responsibility to prevent accidents.
how stupid are you..?
maybe i should have clarified so you didn't have to make a gross assumption but i was talking about the outside lane..
of course i agree with your last bleedingly obvious statement, then again being an ex hgv driving instructor, efad and advanced motorist at car, bike and hgv level i would do wouldn't i..
"How stupid am i? How long have you got? Middle lane, ouside lane whatever, undertakers couldn't undertake if the vehicle they were undertaking drove to the left. Inclduing HGV drivers. | |||
"Whilst its sad that the rtc on the M40 was a fatal, that there were 40 vehicles involved and the conditions were heavy fog tells us that it was just bad driving that led to most of them being involved.. stay safe... Too fast, too close. We've all seen it, people bombing along in rain and spray 35 feet from the car in front!. In fact most times I travel on the motorway I wonder how is it possible there isn't a pile up every day.
agreed..
and when you leave a gap some muppet undertakes..
Ever considered that *muppets* couldn't undertake if *MUPPETS* didn't coast along in the midle lane and actually drobve to the rules?
All M'Way drivers have a responsibility to prevent accidents.
how stupid are you..?
maybe i should have clarified so you didn't have to make a gross assumption but i was talking about the outside lane..
of course i agree with your last bleedingly obvious statement, then again being an ex hgv driving instructor, efad and advanced motorist at car, bike and hgv level i would do wouldn't i..
How stupid am i? How long have you got?
Middle lane, ouside lane whatever, undertakers couldn't undertake if the vehicle they were undertaking drove to the left. Inclduing HGV drivers."to clarify one is in the outside lane at what one deems t be a safe distance from the vehicle in front, the traffic flow is heavy and all lanes are moving fine and one gets someone who sits up ones arse who is in a rush who then when they see a gap just enough to dive into on the inside lane does so and then cuts one up so one has to then leave another safe gap.. | |||
"sorry mate i didnt see you! i must here that ten times a day of bad drivers! im a cyclist
I always try to be aware of cyclists and give them plenty of room as they are the most vulnerable road users. However, I have had a few near misses with people on bikes (I won't call them cyclists) who I've only seen at the last minute as the
y were wearing dark clothing, at night
with no lights. One was even cycling
towards me in the middle of a one way
road (so, obviously, he was going the
wrong way). Another was a young man
cycling on the pavement who decided
, without warning, to pop onto the road
right in front of me.
Thats one of the reasons all of our vehicles are fitted with dash cams
I've seen buses come so close alongside cyclists that I've half expected them to be crushed." | |||
"Whilst its sad that the rtc on the M40 was a fatal, that there were 40 vehicles involved and the conditions were heavy fog tells us that it was just bad driving that led to most of them being involved.. stay safe... Too fast, too close. We've all seen it, people bombing along in rain and spray 35 feet from the car in front!. In fact most times I travel on the motorway I wonder how is it possible there isn't a pile up every day.
agreed..
and when you leave a gap some muppet undertakes..
Ever considered that *muppets* couldn't undertake if *MUPPETS* didn't coast along in the midle lane and actually drobve to the rules?
All M'Way drivers have a responsibility to prevent accidents.
how stupid are you..?
maybe i should have clarified so you didn't have to make a gross assumption but i was talking about the outside lane..
of course i agree with your last bleedingly obvious statement, then again being an ex hgv driving instructor, efad and advanced motorist at car, bike and hgv level i would do wouldn't i..
How stupid am i? How long have you got?
Middle lane, ouside lane whatever, undertakers couldn't undertake if the vehicle they were undertaking drove to the left. Inclduing HGV drivers.
to clarify one is in the outside lane at what one deems t be a safe distance from the vehicle in front, the traffic flow is heavy and all lanes are moving fine and one gets someone who sits up ones arse who is in a rush who then when they see a gap just enough to dive into on the inside lane does so and then cuts one up so one has to then leave another safe gap.."Then why doesnt one move over into the left hand lane into the same gap before the tailgater allowing the tailgater to go merrily on there way less chance of any accident and if there is it is ahead of one where one can react to it rather than one being involved with it  | |||
"Don't know if you're aware but a few people died in big traffic accidents on the motorways yesterday. I happened to be stuck in traffic going southbound on the m1 because of rubbernecking. The aftermath of the accident there was horrific to see and really shocked me. A car was struck by a coach when it was on the hard shoulder and the state the car was in, no one could have survived that. Remember your life expectancy dwindles to just 11 MINUTES on the hard shoulder. If you need to use it, please, please, please get out of your car ASAP and get to safety, as far away from your vehicle as possible! RIP poor souls! My thoughts are with their families and friends. And I hope those involved get over the trauma soon. " Havin worked and delt with fatalities in motorsport i agree completly xxx | |||
"Whilst its sad that the rtc on the M40 was a fatal, that there were 40 vehicles involved and the conditions were heavy fog tells us that it was just bad driving that led to most of them being involved.. stay safe... Too fast, too close. We've all seen it, people bombing along in rain and spray 35 feet from the car in front!. In fact most times I travel on the motorway I wonder how is it possible there isn't a pile up every day.
agreed..
and when you leave a gap some muppet undertakes..
Ever considered that *muppets* couldn't undertake if *MUPPETS* didn't coast along in the midle lane and actually drobve to the rules?
All M'Way drivers have a responsibility to prevent accidents.
how stupid are you..?
maybe i should have clarified so you didn't have to make a gross assumption but i was talking about the outside lane..
of course i agree with your last bleedingly obvious statement, then again being an ex hgv driving instructor, efad and advanced motorist at car, bike and hgv level i would do wouldn't i..
How stupid am i? How long have you got?
Middle lane, ouside lane whatever, undertakers couldn't undertake if the vehicle they were undertaking drove to the left. Inclduing HGV drivers.
to clarify one is in the outside lane at what one deems t be a safe distance from the vehicle in front, the traffic flow is heavy and all lanes are moving fine and one gets someone who sits up ones arse who is in a rush who then when they see a gap just enough to dive into on the inside lane does so and then cuts one up so one has to then leave another safe gap..Then why doesnt one move over into the left hand lane into the same gap before the tailgater allowing the tailgater to go merrily on there way less chance of any accident and if there is it is ahead of one where one can react to it rather than one being involved with it "One doesn't need to if one has loads of qualifications and is always in thr right.  | |||
"Whilst its sad that the rtc on the M40 was a fatal, that there were 40 vehicles involved and the conditions were heavy fog tells us that it was just bad driving that led to most of them being involved.. stay safe... Too fast, too close. We've all seen it, people bombing along in rain and spray 35 feet from the car in front!. In fact most times I travel on the motorway I wonder how is it possible there isn't a pile up every day.
agreed..
and when you leave a gap some muppet undertakes..
Ever considered that *muppets* couldn't undertake if *MUPPETS* didn't coast along in the midle lane and actually drobve to the rules?
All M'Way drivers have a responsibility to prevent accidents.
how stupid are you..?
maybe i should have clarified so you didn't have to make a gross assumption but i was talking about the outside lane..
of course i agree with your last bleedingly obvious statement, then again being an ex hgv driving instructor, efad and advanced motorist at car, bike and hgv level i would do wouldn't i..
How stupid am i? How long have you got?
Middle lane, ouside lane whatever, undertakers couldn't undertake if the vehicle they were undertaking drove to the left. Inclduing HGV drivers.
to clarify one is in the outside lane at what one deems t be a safe distance from the vehicle in front, the traffic flow is heavy and all lanes are moving fine and one gets someone who sits up ones arse who is in a rush who then when they see a gap just enough to dive into on the inside lane does so and then cuts one up so one has to then leave another safe gap..Then why doesnt one move over into the left hand lane into the same gap before the tailgater allowing the tailgater to go merrily on there way less chance of any accident and if there is it is ahead of one where one can react to it rather than one being involved with it
One doesn't need to if one has loads of qualifications and is always in thr right. "or one is abiding by the 'congestion-stay in lane' matrix.. | |||
"Don't know if you're aware but a few people died in big traffic accidents on the motorways yesterday. I happened to be stuck in traffic going southbound on the m1 because of rubbernecking. The aftermath of the accident there was horrific to see and really shocked me. A car was struck by a coach when it was on the hard shoulder and the state the car was in, no one could have survived that. Remember your life expectancy dwindles to just 11 MINUTES on the hard shoulder. If you need to use it, please, please, please get out of your car ASAP and get to safety, as far away from your vehicle as possible! RIP poor souls! My thoughts are with their families and friends. And I hope those involved get over the trauma soon. " And they are making our motorways 'smart' by allowing traffic to use the hard shoulder as another lane when experiencing high volumes of traffic. Just where is a broken down supposed to go then? | |||
"Don't know if you're aware but a few people died in big traffic accidents on the motorways yesterday. I happened to be stuck in traffic going southbound on the m1 because of rubbernecking. The aftermath of the accident there was horrific to see and really shocked me. A car was struck by a coach when it was on the hard shoulder and the state the car was in, no one could have survived that. Remember your life expectancy dwindles to just 11 MINUTES on the hard shoulder. If you need to use it, please, please, please get out of your car ASAP and get to safety, as far away from your vehicle as possible! RIP poor souls! My thoughts are with their families and friends. And I hope those involved get over the trauma soon. And they are making our motorways 'smart' by allowing traffic to use the hard shoulder as another lane when experiencing high volumes of traffic. Just where is a broken down supposed to go then?" One would hope that sensible motorists would see them from far enough away to overtake. Also if the road is congested one would hope that people would be mindful of their speed. Agree though, that we need the hard shoulder to be kept as that. | |||
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" Ever considered that *muppets* couldn't undertake if *MUPPETS* didn't coast along in the midle lane and actually drobve to the rules? All M'Way drivers have a responsibility to prevent accidents. " hmmm ..... so because someone hogs the middle lane you seem to think that justifies undertaking .... i think you're displaying the wrong attitude to safe driving there to be fair | |||
" Ever considered that *muppets* couldn't undertake if *MUPPETS* didn't coast along in the midle lane and actually drobve to the rules? All M'Way drivers have a responsibility to prevent accidents. hmmm ..... so because someone hogs the middle lane you seem to think that justifies undertaking .... i think you're displaying the wrong attitude to safe driving there to be fair" Where do i justify it? I think you'll find that i'm justifying the hoggers moving to the left and driving safely and within the law. | |||
" Ever considered that *muppets* couldn't undertake if *MUPPETS* didn't coast along in the midle lane and actually drobve to the rules? All M'Way drivers have a responsibility to prevent accidents. hmmm ..... so because someone hogs the middle lane you seem to think that justifies undertaking .... i think you're displaying the wrong attitude to safe driving there to be fair Where do i justify it? I think you'll find that i'm justifying the hoggers moving to the left and driving safely and within the law. " in your post .... which i quoted  | |||
" Ever considered that *muppets* couldn't undertake if *MUPPETS* didn't coast along in the midle lane and actually drobve to the rules? All M'Way drivers have a responsibility to prevent accidents. hmmm ..... so because someone hogs the middle lane you seem to think that justifies undertaking .... i think you're displaying the wrong attitude to safe driving there to be fair Where do i justify it? I think you'll find that i'm justifying the hoggers moving to the left and driving safely and within the law. in your post .... which i quoted "Yeah, so which part precisely does it say where i justify it? It says it couldn't even occur if *MUPPETS* didn't allow. If you want safer M'ways you'd be better off educating the *MUPPETS*. | |||
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"that's exactly what i'm doing "oh really | |||
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"Whilst its sad that the rtc on the M40 was a fatal, that there were 40 vehicles involved and the conditions were heavy fog tells us that it was just bad driving that led to most of them being involved.. stay safe... I would have to say, it is down to luck more than driving skill. Too fast, too close. We've all seen it, people bombing along in rain and spray 35 feet from the car in front!. In fact most times I travel on the motorway I wonder how is it possible there isn't a pile up every day. " | |||
"Don't know if you're aware but a few people died in big traffic accidents on the motorways yesterday. I happened to be stuck in traffic going southbound on the m1 because of rubbernecking. The aftermath of the accident there was horrific to see and really shocked me. A car was struck by a coach when it was on the hard shoulder and the state the car was in, no one could have survived that. Remember your life expectancy dwindles to just 11 MINUTES on the hard shoulder. If you need to use it, please, please, please get out of your car ASAP and get to safety, as far away from your vehicle as possible! RIP poor souls! My thoughts are with their families and friends. And I hope those involved get over the trauma soon. And they are making our motorways 'smart' by allowing traffic to use the hard shoulder as another lane when experiencing high volumes of traffic. Just where is a broken down supposed to go then? One would hope that sensible motorists would see them from far enough away to overtake. Also if the road is congested one would hope that people would be mindful of their speed. Agree though, that we need the hard shoulder to be kept as that. " There is a lot of hope in that statement! | |||
"Don't know if you're aware but a few people died in big traffic accidents on the motorways yesterday. I happened to be stuck in traffic going southbound on the m1 because of rubbernecking. The aftermath of the accident there was horrific to see and really shocked me. A car was struck by a coach when it was on the hard shoulder and the state the car was in, no one could have survived that. Remember your life expectancy dwindles to just 11 MINUTES on the hard shoulder. If you need to use it, please, please, please get out of your car ASAP and get to safety, as far away from your vehicle as possible! RIP poor souls! My thoughts are with their families and friends. And I hope those involved get over the trauma soon. And they are making our motorways 'smart' by allowing traffic to use the hard shoulder as another lane when experiencing high volumes of traffic. Just where is a broken down supposed to go then? One would hope that sensible motorists would see them from far enough away to overtake. Also if the road is congested one would hope that people would be mindful of their speed. Agree though, that we need the hard shoulder to be kept as that. There is a lot of hope in that statement!" I do try to remain hopeful! | |||
"Whilst its sad that the rtc on the M40 was a fatal, that there were 40 vehicles involved and the conditions were heavy fog tells us that it was just bad driving that led to most of them being involved.. stay safe... Too fast, too close. We've all seen it, people bombing along in rain and spray 35 feet from the car in front!. In fact most times I travel on the motorway I wonder how is it possible there isn't a pile up every day.
agreed..
and when you leave a gap some muppet undertakes..
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