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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Do those ghosts count that appear in your carriage on that Disney ride?
Thought i saw a real life 'n appalling ghost one lap, was only a mirror image of the mrs. Phew. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I died once it's over rated, just left me with short term memory loss
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Snap. I died and was revived when I was 18. And I suffer from short term memory loss also. It makes my day-to-day hard. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I was near death when I was six. The docs told my mum I had about half hour left to live as my airway was closing. She went into the corridor crying and luckily a doctor she knew walked past. She said what was happening and he tool me to theatre and removed my tonsils which saved me.
At times my heart stopped, and at some times I was reaching up to the ceiling trying to touch someone's hand.
Another thing was that I never met my great grandfather, and I kept seeing a person by my bed I described him, my mum recognised who I was talking about and brought me in a picture of him with other family members. I picked him right out! |
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I believe when you are about to die you see loved ones that have passed over. My grandad who I went to visit in hospital and was meant to get out the following day kept on saying that my gran had visited him and sat with him during the time...she had died some years before...he died the next day |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I believe when you are about to die you see loved ones that have passed over. My grandad who I went to visit in hospital and was meant to get out the following day kept on saying that my gran had visited him and sat with him during the time...she had died some years before...he died the next day "
My grandparents were the same! but they could see their parents and brothers and sisters, and they would talk to them too! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Nope and don't want to see a ghost. Not because I don't necessary believe in them. I just know it would scare the shit out of me. "
When I see things now, I find it quite calming! I didn't like it at first though. |
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We both believe that something after death and we've both seen ghosts. Our place is haunted there is no other way to put it. We find sewing needles all over the place that look like they've been placed in position. We thought something was odd and on advice of a friend we went through the local papers archive to find our place has some history with someone dying here. We think with this, as with everything, it is essential to keep an open mind. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Life is precious but when your time comes everything you have ever hoped and dreamed of is within your grasp. That feeling of love tranquility and complete peace comes in abundance to you. Love is complete and holding your hand is such brilliance that you know understand why your time here on earth was so important. You haven't made mistakes or wrong decisions you walked the path of life. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I believe in evolution I believe we are born to reproduce and die to keep our species going, once we have given birth we have served our purpose and are just waiting to die, there is no logical reason why there would be an after life, it benefits nothing, therefore I do not believe |
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My mother had been dead about 3 years when it came to dads turn.
Shortly before he died he sat bolt upright in bed (first time he'd move in 6 days) and said "What? Yes, yes OK I'll be with you soon" and then flopped back in bed, he popped his clogs 12 hours later at 03:20 hours.
We have absolutely no doubt that he was seeing and talking to our mum... in HIS mind. So we think he went off happy.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I don't believe in ghosts. I've seen things and heard things that I myself can't explain but more than likely could be explained by someone scientific. I don't believe in heaven or hell and when you die you go to a better place. I'm quite sceptical about everything tbh. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Losing someone you love or care deeply about is very painful. You may experience all kinds of difficult emotions and it may feel like the pain and sadness you're experiencing will never let up. These are normal reactions to a significant loss. But while there is no right or wrong way to grieve, there are healthy ways to cope with the pain that, in time, can renew you and permit you to move on. Expereinces involving expressed visitation from a deceased loved one are fabrications of memory as part of the natural grieving proscess. |
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I died when I was younger too but didn't have a tunnel of light etc. Have made up for it with my tunnel of love. I don't believe there's anything after we expire, other than our brains very short term awareness that dwindles away.
So don't believe in ghosts nor seen any. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I was at rock bottom some yrs ago and my gran sat with me for few hrs... Lost my husband 3yrs ago. Bastard daren't come and sit with me..lol
But it's a funny weird subject, we all have our own beliefs |
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By (user no longer on site)
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200 years ago ,if someone had predicticted ,Internet, Bluetooth, wifi etc, they would have been called crazy.
The afterlife is unexplained, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist .
I watched a documentary about a guy who discovered the human body loses a tiny amount of weight at the exact time of death, he argued that this was the weight of the soul leaving the body.
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Watch a documentary on YouTube called "the boy who lived before", very interesting . |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I don't believe in ghosts. I've seen things and heard things that I myself can't explain but more than likely could be explained by someone scientific. I don't believe in heaven or hell and when you die you go to a better place. I'm quite sceptical about everything tbh. "
I think everything can be explained if you look deep enough
I don't believe everyone who claims to have seen a ghost is a liar though I don't believe anyone has, I think lots of people truely do think they have seen ghost because they want to believe they have, I have hear and seen a few things I can't explain which if I was that way inclined I could put down to seeing a ghost but because I haven't I have tried to figure out what it really was, everything can be explained just some people don't want to as they are happy to believe they have seen some sort of spirit or ghost
If it makes people happy I see no harm in believing we go to a better place |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Yes I do but what I'd really like to know is if someone dies after being in a coma whether they could hear you
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I beleive the soul could. A person would be in a coma because part of the physical body has shut down, the soul isn't physical .
Think of it this way, the body is like a car, the soul is the driver. The car will eventually break down and be scrapped, the driver goes and buys another car. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Went on a ghost hunt and some stuff defo happened even got a picture of one, didn't think a lot had happened on the actual night but then when talking about it later I realized quite a few strange thinks happened and it wasn't scary at all. |
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"I believe once you're dead, it's game over. There's nothing at the other end, and I'm OK with that
It's the final couple of minutes of life that scare me more. "
I think we should all live as if there is nothing afterwards |
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By (user no longer on site)
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If we all thought that this is it , nothing else , no repercussions or consequences then surely the world would be a far worse place than it already is ?
Stephen Fry has made it clear he has no belief in a God who is so cruel .
But even by taking religion out of the mix , wouldnt more people simply run amok if there were no thoughts of the possible ramifications in the afterlife or next time round ?
There is something inherently there within us all that gives us the opportunity to understand right from wrong . If we ignore this and steal / hurt / damage etc.... by believing there's nothing else but this life it doesn't really stop this behaviour .
So I believe in karma and reincarnation as it helps me understand much of what happens in the world which would otherwise be inexplicable .
And no , I don't have any religious beliefs as such , just the cause and effect of actions and thoughts . |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"They had been something that bothers me.
If ghosts exist, why had no one ever seen a ghost T Rex? "
Give it a few mins, someone will come along and claim to have  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If we all thought that this is it , nothing else , no repercussions or consequences then surely the world would be a far worse place than it already is ?
Stephen Fry has made it clear he has no belief in a God who is so cruel .
But even by taking religion out of the mix , wouldnt more people simply run amok if there were no thoughts of the possible ramifications in the afterlife or next time round ?
There is something inherently there within us all that gives us the opportunity to understand right from wrong . If we ignore this and steal / hurt / damage etc.... by believing there's nothing else but this life it doesn't really stop this behaviour .
So I believe in karma and reincarnation as it helps me understand much of what happens in the world which would otherwise be inexplicable .
And no , I don't have any religious beliefs as such , just the cause and effect of actions and thoughts ."
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I believe the opposite, were all born inherently good, I don't think having no afterlife would make people run amok as you put it. I'm an atheist and so are millions of others, we just go about our day same as any believer.
In fact I would say knowing that the life you lead now is finite with nothing after it would only make you a better person.
How many atheist suicide bombers do you see |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I died once it's over rated, just left me with short term memory loss
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Ooh, this is interesting because i believe the memory is life. What if the memory loss was because some of your soul passed over to the other side? Not sure where or what the other side is btw.
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"I died once it's over rated, just left me with short term memory loss
Ooh, this is interesting because i believe the memory is life. What if the memory loss was because some of your soul passed over to the other side? Not sure where or what the other side is btw.
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Odd how brain damage is illustrated time and time and time again to affect memory
I see zero data to suggest a soul exists or that memory is life that can "pass" |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I died once it's over rated, just left me with short term memory loss
Ooh, this is interesting because i believe the memory is life. What if the memory loss was because some of your soul passed over to the other side? Not sure where or what the other side is btw.
Odd how brain damage is illustrated time and time and time again to affect memory
I see zero data to suggest a soul exists or that memory is life that can "pass""
You don't believe in human consciousness? Interesting, sometimes i think the same thing, but more in that we can't perceive everything there is out there and have to take reality as it can be perceived at the time.
I'm open to all kinds of possibilities as well though. We know literally nothing of everything, so yeah- schrodingers cat...
I don't think our body will be aware of it's death when it happens, because it ceases to function and i do believe you need a vessel to hold 'yourself/your soul' in (basic idea but many people feel the same way), but you can't really know until that happens. It's not for comfort or religious reasons either, i just like to wonder what else is out there apart from what we perceive right now. Yeah too much time on my hands and that. |
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"I died once it's over rated, just left me with short term memory loss
Ooh, this is interesting because i believe the memory is life. What if the memory loss was because some of your soul passed over to the other side? Not sure where or what the other side is btw.
Odd how brain damage is illustrated time and time and time again to affect memory
I see zero data to suggest a soul exists or that memory is life that can "pass"
You don't believe in human consciousness? Interesting, sometimes i think the same thing, but more in that we can't perceive everything there is out there and have to take reality as it can be perceived at the time.
I'm open to all kinds of possibilities as well though. We know literally nothing of everything, so yeah- schrodingers cat...
I don't think our body will be aware of it's death when it happens, because it ceases to function and i do believe you need a vessel to hold 'yourself/your soul' in (basic idea but many people feel the same way), but you can't really know until that happens. It's not for comfort or religious reasons either, i just like to wonder what else is out there apart from what we perceive right now. Yeah too much time on my hands and that."
you said soul which has out of body ethereal overtones
Consciousness to my mind is no more than the program code that runs on our neurons
Sadly millions of brain experiments give huge weight to this idea and very little credibility to the concept of seperate transient transferable soul
However memes are fact and evidenced at personality trait transfer amongst humans
Eg religions
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By (user no longer on site)
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"you said soul which has out of body ethereal overtones
Consciousness to my mind is no more than the program code that runs on our neurons
Sadly millions of brain experiments give huge weight to this idea and very little credibility to the concept of seperate transient transferable soul
However memes are fact and evidenced at personality trait transfer amongst humans
Eg religions
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Not my fault you chose to have a different meaning for soul than i have? Although me saying afterlife didn't help i guess, but i did say i don't know what that is. The after life can be a physical place or transcendal, i know the physical is real and we can sense it. But, i often wonder why we believe in the transcendal if it isn't real, because i do believe that people cannot imagine anything that doesn't already exist. I also wonder why we have an imagination though so it's still confusing to me anyway, a little.
I do have a lot of scientific info so consciousness holds some deeper meaning to me that can be studied, and philosophically there are so many unproved but theoretical possibilities based on what little we do know.
I base my idea of a soul on the fact that there are things we can feel, emotions for instance, that we think are real. Fundamentally they are reactions based on chemistry, they mirror what we've been through ourselves and how our physical make-up reacted to that, but we feel them all the same.
We are also born with instincts, we naturally know how to do certain things from the moment of birth. I do think that our DNA holds memories, or is changed because of the way our body reacts to situations, and it's necessary for our survival. Just thought it would be interesting to think about if any of these memories can escape to somewhere else.
Just explaining what i mean by a soul, even though i'm not sure if i'm right or not, i just base it on all the info i have in my head and memory and it makes sense to me. |
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I've been in a chemically enduced coma twice for 6 weeks both times
I've no memory of either event
Also I've been hospitalised for overdoses so many times in twelve months and yet again Thankfully no memory of it |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I've been in a chemically enduced coma twice for 6 weeks both times
I've no memory of either event
Also I've been hospitalised for overdoses so many times in twelve months and yet again Thankfully no memory of it "
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That's interesting and goes along with what I've always said, speak to people who've had operations under general, they had no concept of time, just a close of the eyes and then an opening of them. Nothing in between, no dreams, no tunnels, no nothing. |
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"Irenic
You said
" do believe that people cannot imagine anything that doesn't already exist"
I think humans are very good at imagining many things that do not and cannot exist
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You mean Harry Potter isn't true! Tell me it isn't so! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Irenic
You said
" do believe that people cannot imagine anything that doesn't already exist"
I think humans are very good at imagining many things that do not and cannot exist
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Give me one example then? I don't think you understood what i said though.
You cannot imagine anything that doesn't exist.
God, for example, portrayed as a human in human form. Aeroplanes invented because things can fly. Dinosaurs, based on what things living in a similar environment would look like (yeah i know they exist but nobody knew what their skin looks like when they first drew them). Satan has goat feet. Ghosts look like whisps. etc.
Unless you've perceived something then you can't understand it, you can't create anything from something unknown. If you have other info then of course i would love to hear it because i am open minded and accept other possibilities- if i understand them. |
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By *gNeMan
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"Irenic
You said
" do believe that people cannot imagine anything that doesn't already exist"
I think humans are very good at imagining many things that do not and cannot exist
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It's been said that the human mind cannot generate an entirely 'new' concept.
Also I think what Irenec is saying is that we cannot comprehend something which exists outside of our sense of sight, sound, taste, touch or smell. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Irenic
You said
" do believe that people cannot imagine anything that doesn't already exist"
I think humans are very good at imagining many things that do not and cannot exist
It's been said that the human mind cannot generate an entirely 'new' concept.
Also I think what Irenec is saying is that we cannot comprehend something which exists outside of our sense of sight, sound, taste, touch or smell."
It's can be hard to understand the concept of things because of our senses yeah. |
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"I died once it's over rated, just left me with short term memory loss
Ooh, this is interesting because i believe the memory is life. What if the memory loss was because some of your soul passed over to the other side? Not sure where or what the other side is btw.
Odd how brain damage is illustrated time and time and time again to affect memory
I see zero data to suggest a soul exists or that memory is life that can "pass"
You don't believe in human consciousness? Interesting, sometimes i think the same thing, but more in that we can't perceive everything there is out there and have to take reality as it can be perceived at the time.
I'm open to all kinds of possibilities as well though. We know literally nothing of everything, so yeah- schrodingers cat...
I don't think our body will be aware of it's death when it happens, because it ceases to function and i do believe you need a vessel to hold 'yourself/your soul' in (basic idea but many people feel the same way), but you can't really know until that happens. It's not for comfort or religious reasons either, i just like to wonder what else is out there apart from what we perceive right now. Yeah too much time on my hands and that."
This is my beliefs too. We are energy, and I believe energy/sub conscious just moves on when a person passes.  |
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Personally I dont really believe in death...
At present I have this organic vehicle that I use to transport me through this section of time, just as in the past I have had cars and bikes to transport me around the physical space I now inhabit.
My body like some cars I have owned will eventually suffer an unrepairable breakdown and will be stripped down for parts. however just because my body gets scrapped does not mean I cease to exist just as I did not die when any of my cars or bikes were scrapped...
Don't know if this will make sense to anyone else but it does to me... |
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