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When my team, west ham, won promotion to the first division in 1991, the goalkeeper, ludo miklosko, was the main reason for winning promotion. I'm convinced that without him we would have been mid table that year.
David de Gea seems to be doing the same thing this year. Without him I'm convinced that man utd would be mid table this season.
My question is, which goalkeeper, from any team and any year, has had the biggest impact on overall league position?
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"When my team, west ham, won promotion to the first division in 1991, the goalkeeper, ludo miklosko, was the main reason for winning promotion. I'm convinced that without him we would have been mid table that year.
David de Gea seems to be doing the same thing this year. Without him I'm convinced that man utd would be mid table this season.
My question is, which goalkeeper, from any team and any year, has had the biggest impact on overall league position?
Mr spicy."
Shilton, Forest double winning side, Schmeichel, United through the 90s |
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"When my team, west ham, won promotion to the first division in 1991, the goalkeeper, ludo miklosko, was the main reason for winning promotion. I'm convinced that without him we would have been mid table that year.
David de Gea seems to be doing the same thing this year. Without him I'm convinced that man utd would be mid table this season.
My question is, which goalkeeper, from any team and any year, has had the biggest impact on overall league position?
Mr spicy.
Shilton, Forest double winning side, Schmeichel, United through the 90s"
Both good keepers but would you say that they were the main reasons for the success? I would say not.
In the examples I have given I believe the teams have been over reliant on the keepers, that was certainly not the case with your two examples. |
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Was Hartson playing for WHU along with Joe cole, Lampard, Ferdinand to name a few that season or was this before then?
I was a WHU fan back then, just around when they invented the Prem.
West Ham used to play in Europe, Inter Toto I think |
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"Was Hartson playing for WHU along with Joe cole, Lampard, Ferdinand to name a few that season or was this before then?
I was a WHU fan back then, just around when they invented the Prem.
West Ham used to play in Europe, Inter Toto I think"
It was before then.The star man was Stuart slater.
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no one player is ever the reason a team achieves, over achieves or stays up by the skin of its collective teeth..
yes the keeper will have more of an effect if they are pants or perfect and lucky but without a decent defence no keeper is infallible..
hence there is no I in team..
or number 1.. |
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"Was Hartson playing for WHU along with Joe cole, Lampard, Ferdinand to name a few that season or was this before then?
I was a WHU fan back then, just around when they invented the Prem.
West Ham used to play in Europe, Inter Toto I think
It was before then.The star man was Stuart slater.
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Frank Mcavennie and Trev Morley got the goals in the promotion year. |
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"When my team, west ham, won promotion to the first division in 1991, the goalkeeper, ludo miklosko, was the main reason for winning promotion. I'm convinced that without him we would have been mid table that year.
David de Gea seems to be doing the same thing this year. Without him I'm convinced that man utd would be mid table this season.
My question is, which goalkeeper, from any team and any year, has had the biggest impact on overall league position?
Mr spicy.
Shilton, Forest double winning side, Schmeichel, United through the 90s
Both good keepers but would you say that they were the main reasons for the success? I would say not.
In the examples I have given I believe the teams have been over reliant on the keepers, that was certainly not the case with your two examples."
Brian Clough would disagree with you, he was very open about saying Shilton was without doubt his most important player and without whom he would not have won the trophies he did. The year United won the treble, would they have done so had Schmeichel not saved the penalty in the semi final against Arsenal? One player doesn't make a good team, but a bad keeper can certainly make a good team average. |
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"Both dudek and grobelaar saving or rather making people miss penalties in European cup finals .
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Grobelaar was my hero until the fake sheikh knobbled him.
He' was taking bungs to throw goals in I think, it might of been vs Villa. |
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"Both dudek and grobelaar saving or rather making people miss penalties in European cup finals.
YNWA
Grobelaar was my hero until the fake sheikh knobbled him.
He' was taking bungs to throw goals in I think, it might of been vs Villa."
How Villa could do with someone like that against them at the moment  |
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"Both dudek and grobelaar saving or rather making people miss penalties in European cup finals.
YNWA
Grobelaar was my hero until the fake sheikh knobbled him.
He' was taking bungs to throw goals in I think, it might of been vs Villa.
How Villa could do with someone like that against them at the moment "
Haha get that Sheikh back quick |
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"think the guys name was 'jimmy glass' for carlisle. scored in the 94th minute to keep them in league football... he was an on loan goalkeeper!! "
Shit yeah, last minute, in the last game of the season  |
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"think the guys name was 'jimmy glass' for carlisle. scored in the 94th minute to keep them in league football... he was an on loan goalkeeper!!
Shit yeah, last minute, in the last game of the season "
Alan Fettis once scored twice in a game for Hull City as there was a injury crisis and he ended up playing as a striker. A few of us in the know heard he was going to start up front and cleaned up at the bookies!! |
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I put a small bet on Chilivert scoring for paraguay in the WC.
The local Ladbrokes had to ring head office, 1000-1 they gave me.
He took the free kicks for Paraguay and the penalties.
The closest I came was 1st game vs Spain when Zubby zoretta (I do apologise if ol zubby is reading this) just flicked it up and over the bar.
That was the first and last free kick they had close to the opposistion goal. |
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The reverse can also be true. David James was the reason West Ham got relegated a few years later. They had a good team but he was truly awful that season and cost them many points. They would have been mid table with a half decent keeper. |
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"The reverse can also be true. David James was the reason West Ham got relegated a few years later. They had a good team but he was truly awful that season and cost them many points. They would have been mid table with a half decent keeper. "
And don't forget Alan McKnightmare! |
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"The reverse can also be true. David James was the reason West Ham got relegated a few years later. They had a good team but he was truly awful that season and cost them many points. They would have been mid table with a half decent keeper.
And don't forget Alan McKnightmare!"
The worst goalkeeper ever to play for anyone. I've heard so many rumours as to why he was shit but the simple fact is he couldn't catch a ball. |
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Ivory Coast keeper Barry Copa  in Sunday's AFCON final - 0-0 after extra time, Ivory Coast won the penalty shootout 9-8 after Barry saved two and then scored one! He was their sub keeper too 
Be a long time before he has to buy himself a drink anywhere in his country, I reckon... |
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yes peter shilton was at derby good Goalie too enjoyed a bet on the horse,s not always to his advantage thou, Colin boulton and les green before him both fine goalies, I remember boulton More when kevin hector played, and david Nish and colin todd, alan hinton and Others those were the days with brian Clough and peter taylor at the helm. |
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What about Bert Trautmann for Man City?
Breaks his neck (only realised it was broken 3 days after) in the FA Cup but still plays the last 20 minutes making key saves to help hold on for the win!!
P.S. I'm A West Ham Fan! |
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"The Arsenal goalie when they went unbeaten"
that was mad jens....
i would say it was seaman more that lehman than won us more points and more trophys... (p.s first person to say nayim gets a punch on the bifter!!!) |
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"The fella in the black and white days who broke his neck in an Fa Cup final game and was like 'Im ok, its only a scratch'.
Him."
1950,s or later ? I remember something about that guy doing That exceptional really how he pulled Through. |
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"The Arsenal goalie when they went unbeaten
that was mad jens....
i would say it was seaman more that lehman than won us more points and more trophys... (p.s first person to say nayim gets a punch on the bifter!!!) "
Poor dave got done twice didnt he, the toothed wonder Ronaldiniho did it aswell didnt he, Japan world cup I think |
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"What about Bert Trautmann for Man City?
Breaks his neck (only realised it was broken 3 days after) in the FA Cup but still plays the last 20 minutes making key saves to help hold on for the win!! I think that must be the guy mentioned Just..
P.S. I'm A West Ham Fan!"
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Half way line ?
tut tut tut.... no need.... no need!!!! "
I rushed to the pub after a game I had been to as I heard it was going into extra time. Got in there just as it left his foot. |
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"Both dudek and grobelaar saving or rather making people miss penalties in European cup finals.
YNWA
Grobelaar was my hero until the fake sheikh knobbled him.
He' was taking bungs to throw goals in I think, it 4might of been vs Villa."
As a Villa supporter I wonder are there any current keepers partial to a bung to let a few goals in.  |
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"David Marshall at Cardiff we would have been relegated in january if it wasnt for him"
I was gonna offer his name G but he couldnt of done anything more for us last season, best keeper in the world last year maybe.
Lucky to still have him I think. |
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