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By *opsy Rogers OP   Woman  over a year ago

London

I hijacked the other thread far too much and I apologise.

I've just uploaded a before picture so folk can see what not eating carbs does. My current figure, the one in the avatar, is the result of a diet that's 80% saturated fat and almost non-existent vegetable and no fruit intake for the past eight years.

I hold non-diabetic numbers (I have diabetes) the lipid profile (cholesterol) that my doctor is envious of, no longer suffer from all sorts of annoying but distressing ailments and am fitter and healthier than I was in my 30's.

I have seen massive changes in my friends and family who also follow this lifestyle change, although not as obsessively as I do, but most of all, I have been set free.

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By *risky_MareWoman  over a year ago

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"I hijacked the other thread far too much and I apologise.

I've just uploaded a before picture so folk can see what not eating carbs does. My current figure, the one in the avatar, is the result of a diet that's 80% saturated fat and almost non-existent vegetable and no fruit intake for the past eight years.

I hold non-diabetic numbers (I have diabetes) the lipid profile (cholesterol) that my doctor is envious of, no longer suffer from all sorts of annoying but distressing ailments and am fitter and healthier than I was in my 30's.

I have seen massive changes in my friends and family who also follow this lifestyle change, although not as obsessively as I do, but most of all, I have been set free."

Good for you. What are you typically eating to get fats that high?

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By *ee VianteWoman  over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"I hijacked the other thread far too much and I apologise.

I've just uploaded a before picture so folk can see what not eating carbs does. My current figure, the one in the avatar, is the result of a diet that's 80% saturated fat and almost non-existent vegetable and no fruit intake for the past eight years.

I hold non-diabetic numbers (I have diabetes) the lipid profile (cholesterol) that my doctor is envious of, no longer suffer from all sorts of annoying but distressing ailments and am fitter and healthier than I was in my 30's.

I have seen massive changes in my friends and family who also follow this lifestyle change, although not as obsessively as I do, but most of all, I have been set free.

Good for you. What are you typically eating to get fats that high?"

Lard and double cream smoothies

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I hijacked the other thread far too much and I apologise.

I've just uploaded a before picture so folk can see what not eating carbs does. My current figure, the one in the avatar, is the result of a diet that's 80% saturated fat and almost non-existent vegetable and no fruit intake for the past eight years.

I hold non-diabetic numbers (I have diabetes) the lipid profile (cholesterol) that my doctor is envious of, no longer suffer from all sorts of annoying but distressing ailments and am fitter and healthier than I was in my 30's.

I have seen massive changes in my friends and family who also follow this lifestyle change, although not as obsessively as I do, but most of all, I have been set free.

Good for you. What are you typically eating to get fats that high?"

Well done x

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By *isscheekychopsWoman  over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

Well done for the weight loss etc but I'll still be chomping on my carbs

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Well done op. I eat about 400g carbs a day, love it, bulking phase I am in

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By *opsy Rogers OP   Woman  over a year ago

London


"I hijacked the other thread far too much and I apologise.

I've just uploaded a before picture so folk can see what not eating carbs does. My current figure, the one in the avatar, is the result of a diet that's 80% saturated fat and almost non-existent vegetable and no fruit intake for the past eight years.

I hold non-diabetic numbers (I have diabetes) the lipid profile (cholesterol) that my doctor is envious of, no longer suffer from all sorts of annoying but distressing ailments and am fitter and healthier than I was in my 30's.

I have seen massive changes in my friends and family who also follow this lifestyle change, although not as obsessively as I do, but most of all, I have been set free.

Good for you. What are you typically eating to get fats that high?"

Small amounts of protein smothered in butter, bullet proof coffee with coconut oil and butter, streaky bacon, and cream. It's hard to do without dairy. I had a bloody lovely meal yesterday and a real treat. Gammon ham, grated cheese and butter, wrapped in a cold iceberg lettuce leaf with a bit of spring onion on top. The green stuff is more for texture than anything else.

One of my favourites if I feel the urge to eat anything hot is chicken and mushrooms fried in ghee with a garlic and cream sauce.

Often, it will be just some fatty meat like salami and I love nuts but again, they are addictive and I can gain weight easily.

An absolute rare and mouthwatering sweet treat are two Medjool dates with Brazil nuts and a BIG lump of soft Brie and Camembert. High carbs for me but no craving, unlike tomatoes. One sniff of them and I'm fighting the urge to stuff my face.

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By *opsy Rogers OP   Woman  over a year ago

London


"Well done op. I eat about 400g carbs a day, love it, bulking phase I am in "

I love carbs too but they were killing me. Don't be fooled into thinking that skinny = healthy.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Well done op. I eat about 400g carbs a day, love it, bulking phase I am in

I love carbs too but they were killing me. Don't be fooled into thinking that skinny = healthy."

And your right there they do, just have it high on the training days, then lower of the days you don't do anything on.

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By *opsy Rogers OP   Woman  over a year ago

London


"Well done op. I eat about 400g carbs a day, love it, bulking phase I am in

I love carbs too but they were killing me. Don't be fooled into thinking that skinny = healthy.And your right there they do, just have it high on the training days, then lower of the days you don't do anything on."

Plenty of body builders and top athletes do not eat carbs.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman  over a year ago

little house on the praire

Well done topsy, I also got rid of all my ailments after I lost 8 stone, I lost mine with slimming world now just calorie counting. I've got a picture of the before me but dont think I will make it public

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Well done op. I eat about 400g carbs a day, love it, bulking phase I am in

I love carbs too but they were killing me. Don't be fooled into thinking that skinny = healthy.And your right there they do, just have it high on the training days, then lower of the days you don't do anything on.

Plenty of body builders and top athletes do not eat carbs. "

YEs but the famous ones do, take jay cutler for example, he eats around 1000g aday or dennis wolf, they eat truck loads.

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By *ee VianteWoman  over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Well done op. I eat about 400g carbs a day, love it, bulking phase I am in

I love carbs too but they were killing me. Don't be fooled into thinking that skinny = healthy.And your right there they do, just have it high on the training days, then lower of the days you don't do anything on.

Plenty of body builders and top athletes do not eat carbs. YEs but the famous ones do, take jay cutler for example, he eats around 1000g aday or dennis wolf, they eat truck loads."

Some can. Not everyone is sensitive to carbs the way some people are.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Well done op. I eat about 400g carbs a day, love it, bulking phase I am in

I love carbs too but they were killing me. Don't be fooled into thinking that skinny = healthy.And your right there they do, just have it high on the training days, then lower of the days you don't do anything on.

Plenty of body builders and top athletes do not eat carbs. YEs but the famous ones do, take jay cutler for example, he eats around 1000g aday or dennis wolf, they eat truck loads.

Some can. Not everyone is sensitive to carbs the way some people are."

That's a good point and yes some are to sensitive than others.

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By *opsy Rogers OP   Woman  over a year ago

London


"Well done op. I eat about 400g carbs a day, love it, bulking phase I am in

I love carbs too but they were killing me. Don't be fooled into thinking that skinny = healthy.And your right there they do, just have it high on the training days, then lower of the days you don't do anything on.

Plenty of body builders and top athletes do not eat carbs. YEs but the famous ones do, take jay cutler for example, he eats around 1000g aday or dennis wolf, they eat truck loads."

I'd rather stay alive for longer and not have muscles. All you are doing is swapping one addiction for another.

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By *risky_MareWoman  over a year ago

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"I hijacked the other thread far too much and I apologise.

I've just uploaded a before picture so folk can see what not eating carbs does. My current figure, the one in the avatar, is the result of a diet that's 80% saturated fat and almost non-existent vegetable and no fruit intake for the past eight years.

I hold non-diabetic numbers (I have diabetes) the lipid profile (cholesterol) that my doctor is envious of, no longer suffer from all sorts of annoying but distressing ailments and am fitter and healthier than I was in my 30's.

I have seen massive changes in my friends and family who also follow this lifestyle change, although not as obsessively as I do, but most of all, I have been set free.

Good for you. What are you typically eating to get fats that high?

Small amounts of protein smothered in butter, bullet proof coffee with coconut oil and butter, streaky bacon, and cream. It's hard to do without dairy. I had a bloody lovely meal yesterday and a real treat. Gammon ham, grated cheese and butter, wrapped in a cold iceberg lettuce leaf with a bit of spring onion on top. The green stuff is more for texture than anything else.

One of my favourites if I feel the urge to eat anything hot is chicken and mushrooms fried in ghee with a garlic and cream sauce.

Often, it will be just some fatty meat like salami and I love nuts but again, they are addictive and I can gain weight easily.

An absolute rare and mouthwatering sweet treat are two Medjool dates with Brazil nuts and a BIG lump of soft Brie and Camembert. High carbs for me but no craving, unlike tomatoes. One sniff of them and I'm fighting the urge to stuff my face. "

Yes, I have to start with a fairly severe 'cold turkey' - no tomatoes, onions even, fruit of any kind etc. I think on Atkins, which is what I started on, they limit cheese because of the carb content of many (from the milk sugars I guess) but that was years ago, I forget now.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Well done op. I eat about 400g carbs a day, love it, bulking phase I am in

I love carbs too but they were killing me. Don't be fooled into thinking that skinny = healthy.And your right there they do, just have it high on the training days, then lower of the days you don't do anything on.

Plenty of body builders and top athletes do not eat carbs. YEs but the famous ones do, take jay cutler for example, he eats around 1000g aday or dennis wolf, they eat truck loads.

I'd rather stay alive for longer and not have muscles. All you are doing is swapping one addiction for another. "

Yes that's right like one for the other. I rather have the muscles tho.

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By *inaTitzTV/TS  over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

I like both versions of you

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By *isscheekychopsWoman  over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

As I said in a previous thread I did the no carb diet and it made me feel dire I was really Ill on it. I'd never put myself through that again

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By *opsy Rogers OP   Woman  over a year ago

London


"As I said in a previous thread I did the no carb diet and it made me feel dire I was really Ill on it. I'd never put myself through that again "

Yep, it doesn't agree with some people but being that fat was killing me so I got over the initial 'carb flu' and now I will never be obese again.

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By *opsy Rogers OP   Woman  over a year ago

London


"I like both versions of you "

Ooo, Tina, thanks. I can't say the same about you ' cos I've never seen you in drab, but I loves ya anyway.

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By *risky_MareWoman  over a year ago

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"As I said in a previous thread I did the no carb diet and it made me feel dire I was really Ill on it. I'd never put myself through that again

Yep, it doesn't agree with some people but being that fat was killing me so I got over the initial 'carb flu' and now I will never be obese again."

Yup, there is an actual withdrawl sometimes.

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By *ee VianteWoman  over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"I like both versions of you "

I thought you luffed me

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By *opsy Rogers OP   Woman  over a year ago

London


"As I said in a previous thread I did the no carb diet and it made me feel dire I was really Ill on it. I'd never put myself through that again "

Cheeky, there is no way of doing no carbs unless all you eat is fat and even then is negligible.

Full fat milk has 2.5 per 100mils and protein is broken down into sugars (I've simplified that a bit).

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By *opsy Rogers OP   Woman  over a year ago

London


"I like both versions of you

I thought you luffed me "

I think Tina keeps enough love in them Titz for everybody.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Well done lovely

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Good for you - you look great! I've done the no carb thing before - I went from a size 18 to a size 10 in just over 4 months!

But I couldn't maintain it - I love carbs - I love all food groups actually

I would rather be a bit fat than cut any of them out!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

You can all eat all the nice foods, but just have it portion controlled.

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By *opsy Rogers OP   Woman  over a year ago

London


"You can all eat all the nice foods, but just have it portion controlled."

I do eat nice food thanks, in fact my food is glorious!

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By *opsy Rogers OP   Woman  over a year ago

London


"Well done lovely "

Thank you my friend, but can I have a bum like yours please?

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By *ee VianteWoman  over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"You can all eat all the nice foods, but just have it portion controlled."

You're not really getting this are you?

It's difficult to get your head around if you don't have a problem with carbs.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You can all eat all the nice foods, but just have it portion controlled.

I do eat nice food thanks, in fact my food is glorious! "

Nice one

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By *lashnsparkleCouple  over a year ago

Pembrokeshire

Loads of FB groups re this topic, my favourite is the Big Breakfast Banting Debate group.

Carbs cause inflammation which leads to Diabetes, Obesity and Heart disease. The Innuit Eskimos survive without carbs. Our bodies happily run on ketones but cancer cells need carbs to survive if you know anyone with cancer try to convince them to go zero carb!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You can all eat all the nice foods, but just have it portion controlled.

You're not really getting this are you?

It's difficult to get your head around if you don't have a problem with carbs."

I guess your right there as well as haven't had it.

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By *ee VianteWoman  over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

There is a theory that inflammation may also be linked to depression and depression could be a symptom of that physical issue rather than "all in the head".

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By *ee VianteWoman  over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"You can all eat all the nice foods, but just have it portion controlled.

You're not really getting this are you?

It's difficult to get your head around if you don't have a problem with carbs.I guess your right there as well as haven't had it."

I'm a carb addict. Really, an actual addict. A small amount of carbs makes me crave like an insane woman and usually have a massive binge.

It's like an alcoholic can't have just one drink.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Well done op. I eat about 400g carbs a day, love it, bulking phase I am in

I love carbs too but they were killing me. Don't be fooled into thinking that skinny = healthy.And your right there they do, just have it high on the training days, then lower of the days you don't do anything on.

Plenty of body builders and top athletes do not eat carbs. "

Lol yes they do.

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By *enninemarkMan  over a year ago

huddersfield/manchester

I don't mean to hijack this thread at all, however, I have been trying the GL diet, so only complex carbs and less of them. It was ok and lost some weight, did feel more lively too. But it was difficult to maintain.

Now Im trying tbe 5-2 diet. Only done 2 hole weeks yet but lost 5lb overall. Still using what I learned about carbs and trying to stick to mostly complex carbs.

This reportedly has lots of good effects on health eg controlling diabetes, easing arthritis etc.

I suppose its about finding a diet that works for you and is sustainable within your lifestyle!

Best of luck all ye fellow weight losers!

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By *opsy Rogers OP   Woman  over a year ago

London


"Well done op. I eat about 400g carbs a day, love it, bulking phase I am in

I love carbs too but they were killing me. Don't be fooled into thinking that skinny = healthy.And your right there they do, just have it high on the training days, then lower of the days you don't do anything on.

Plenty of body builders and top athletes do not eat carbs.

Lol yes they do. "

No they don't.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I hijacked the other thread far too much and I apologise.

I've just uploaded a before picture so folk can see what not eating carbs does. My current figure, the one in the avatar, is the result of a diet that's 80% saturated fat and almost non-existent vegetable and no fruit intake for the past eight years.

I hold non-diabetic numbers (I have diabetes) the lipid profile (cholesterol) that my doctor is envious of, no longer suffer from all sorts of annoying but distressing ailments and am fitter and healthier than I was in my 30's.

I have seen massive changes in my friends and family who also follow this lifestyle change, although not as obsessively as I do, but most of all, I have been set free."

Just fabbed your pics, look very nice indeed well done

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By *opsy Rogers OP   Woman  over a year ago

London


"I don't mean to hijack this thread at all, however, I have been trying the GL diet, so only complex carbs and less of them. It was ok and lost some weight, did feel more lively too. But it was difficult to maintain.

Now Im trying tbe 5-2 diet. Only done 2 hole weeks yet but lost 5lb overall. Still using what I learned about carbs and trying to stick to mostly complex carbs.

This reportedly has lots of good effects on health eg controlling diabetes, easing arthritis etc.

I suppose its about finding a diet that works for you and is sustainable within your lifestyle!

Best of luck all ye fellow weight losers!"

Absolutely, if it's working for you go for it, but for carb addicts it doesn't work and is not sustainable in the long term.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Well done op. I eat about 400g carbs a day, love it, bulking phase I am in

I love carbs too but they were killing me. Don't be fooled into thinking that skinny = healthy.And your right there they do, just have it high on the training days, then lower of the days you don't do anything on.

Plenty of body builders and top athletes do not eat carbs.

Lol yes they do.

No they don't."

I'm sure all the top body builders like Kai Green and Phil Heath don't eat carbs to maintain the 250lbs of weight they hold.

Ok

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Well done op. I eat about 400g carbs a day, love it, bulking phase I am in

I love carbs too but they were killing me. Don't be fooled into thinking that skinny = healthy.And your right there they do, just have it high on the training days, then lower of the days you don't do anything on.

Plenty of body builders and top athletes do not eat carbs.

Lol yes they do.

No they don't.

I'm sure all the top body builders like Kai Green and Phil Heath don't eat carbs to maintain the 250lbs of weight they hold.

Ok"

YEs its all over utube and they show as well what they eat.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You can all eat all the nice foods, but just have it portion controlled.

You're not really getting this are you?

It's difficult to get your head around if you don't have a problem with carbs.I guess your right there as well as haven't had it.

I'm a carb addict. Really, an actual addict. A small amount of carbs makes me crave like an insane woman and usually have a massive binge.

It's like an alcoholic can't have just one drink.

"

And yes I understand it better now its like an addiction thing.

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By *iverscuMan  over a year ago

Berkshire

You do look great

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By *opsy Rogers OP   Woman  over a year ago

London


"Well done op. I eat about 400g carbs a day, love it, bulking phase I am in

I love carbs too but they were killing me. Don't be fooled into thinking that skinny = healthy.And your right there they do, just have it high on the training days, then lower of the days you don't do anything on.

Plenty of body builders and top athletes do not eat carbs.

Lol yes they do.

No they don't.

I'm sure all the top body builders like Kai Green and Phil Heath don't eat carbs to maintain the 250lbs of weight they hold.

OkYEs its all over utube and they show as well what they eat."

Pointless doing the body building argument here.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Well done op. I eat about 400g carbs a day, love it, bulking phase I am in

I love carbs too but they were killing me. Don't be fooled into thinking that skinny = healthy.And your right there they do, just have it high on the training days, then lower of the days you don't do anything on.

Plenty of body builders and top athletes do not eat carbs.

Lol yes they do.

No they don't.

I'm sure all the top body builders like Kai Green and Phil Heath don't eat carbs to maintain the 250lbs of weight they hold.

OkYEs its all over utube and they show as well what they eat.

Pointless doing the body building argument here. "

But you said top bodybuilders a don't eat carbs?

You think Ronaldo doesn't eat carbs? He's a top athlete. His training burns 2000cals a day, he needs to eat 5000cals to maintain 3000 of that. If he didn't eat carbs he'd have to eat 3 or 4 whole chickens a day to get anywhere near his caloric intake required

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By *ee VianteWoman  over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Well done op. I eat about 400g carbs a day, love it, bulking phase I am in

I love carbs too but they were killing me. Don't be fooled into thinking that skinny = healthy.And your right there they do, just have it high on the training days, then lower of the days you don't do anything on.

Plenty of body builders and top athletes do not eat carbs.

Lol yes they do.

No they don't.

I'm sure all the top body builders like Kai Green and Phil Heath don't eat carbs to maintain the 250lbs of weight they hold.

OkYEs its all over utube and they show as well what they eat.

Pointless doing the body building argument here.

But you said top bodybuilders a don't eat carbs?

You think Ronaldo doesn't eat carbs? He's a top athlete. His training burns 2000cals a day, he needs to eat 5000cals to maintain 3000 of that. If he didn't eat carbs he'd have to eat 3 or 4 whole chickens a day to get anywhere near his caloric intake required "

She said some, not all.

I don't know anything about serious training whilst low carbing so these are just my thoughts.

Remember that ketosis is a totally different metabolic pathway. Energy doesn't come from carbs. Energy comes from burning fat.

He'd only have to eat whole chickens if he were trying to get his energy requirements from protein which, in ketosis, he wouldn't be.

I don't know anyone who low carbs and is a bodybuilder. However, Topsy has been low carbing for a very long time now and uses a lot of resources I don't.

If she says it's possible for athletes to low carb, I believe her.

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By *opsy Rogers OP   Woman  over a year ago

London

Thanks VV. Again, we are all concentrating on looks and not health.

Amounts such a stated here WILL cause damage in the long run. Looking 'healthy' is not the same as being in good health.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Well done lovely

Thank you my friend, but can I have a bum like yours please?"

Thank you. Years of swimming and squats

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By *UNCHBOXMan  over a year ago

folkestone


"Thanks VV. Again, we are all concentrating on looks and not health.

Amounts such a stated here WILL cause damage in the long run. Looking 'healthy' is not the same as being in good health. "

Has there been any independent peer reviewed studies down on this?.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Almost sounding like the Banting diet from Tim Noakes and I know a friend who has dropped about 4 clothes sizes in probably about the same number of months. The only thing that concerns me with this diet is that there is no long term research and its hard trying not to worry about the amount of fat eaten and what doctors have said about it clotting the arteries etc

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By *lashnsparkleCouple  over a year ago

Pembrokeshire


"Almost sounding like the Banting diet from Tim Noakes and I know a friend who has dropped about 4 clothes sizes in probably about the same number of months. The only thing that concerns me with this diet is that there is no long term research and its hard trying not to worry about the amount of fat eaten and what doctors have said about it clotting the arteries etc"

It is the Banting diet the book is called the real meal revolution.

Fat doesnt make you fat Carbs do!

The innuit eskimo eat a diet that is 95% fat and have some of the lowest heart disease rates in the world.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Well done op. I eat about 400g carbs a day, love it, bulking phase I am in

I love carbs too but they were killing me. Don't be fooled into thinking that skinny = healthy.And your right there they do, just have it high on the training days, then lower of the days you don't do anything on.

Plenty of body builders and top athletes do not eat carbs.

Lol yes they do.

No they don't.

I'm sure all the top body builders like Kai Green and Phil Heath don't eat carbs to maintain the 250lbs of weight they hold.

OkYEs its all over utube and they show as well what they eat.

Pointless doing the body building argument here.

But you said top bodybuilders a don't eat carbs?

You think Ronaldo doesn't eat carbs? He's a top athlete. His training burns 2000cals a day, he needs to eat 5000cals to maintain 3000 of that. If he didn't eat carbs he'd have to eat 3 or 4 whole chickens a day to get anywhere near his caloric intake required

She said some, not all.

I don't know anything about serious training whilst low carbing so these are just my thoughts.

Remember that ketosis is a totally different metabolic pathway. Energy doesn't come from carbs. Energy comes from burning fat.

He'd only have to eat whole chickens if he were trying to get his energy requirements from protein which, in ketosis, he wouldn't be.

I don't know anyone who low carbs and is a bodybuilder. However, Topsy has been low carbing for a very long time now and uses a lot of resources I don't.

If she says it's possible for athletes to low carb, I believe her."

YEs its possible, but to get muscles u need to be in surplus calories and carbs. Gues for women tho can be on low carbs as thy wont get the same amount of muscles as men.

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By *opsy Rogers OP   Woman  over a year ago

London


"Well done op. I eat about 400g carbs a day, love it, bulking phase I am in

I love carbs too but they were killing me. Don't be fooled into thinking that skinny = healthy.And your right there they do, just have it high on the training days, then lower of the days you don't do anything on.

Plenty of body builders and top athletes do not eat carbs.

Lol yes they do.

No they don't.

I'm sure all the top body builders like Kai Green and Phil Heath don't eat carbs to maintain the 250lbs of weight they hold.

OkYEs its all over utube and they show as well what they eat.

Pointless doing the body building argument here.

But you said top bodybuilders a don't eat carbs?

You think Ronaldo doesn't eat carbs? He's a top athlete. His training burns 2000cals a day, he needs to eat 5000cals to maintain 3000 of that. If he didn't eat carbs he'd have to eat 3 or 4 whole chickens a day to get anywhere near his caloric intake required

She said some, not all.

I don't know anything about serious training whilst low carbing so these are just my thoughts.

Remember that ketosis is a totally different metabolic pathway. Energy doesn't come from carbs. Energy comes from burning fat.

He'd only have to eat whole chickens if he were trying to get his energy requirements from protein which, in ketosis, he wouldn't be.

I don't know anyone who low carbs and is a bodybuilder. However, Topsy has been low carbing for a very long time now and uses a lot of resources I don't.

If she says it's possible for athletes to low carb, I believe her.YEs its possible, but to get muscles u need to be in surplus calories and carbs. Gues for women tho can be on low carbs as thy wont get the same amount of muscles as men."

No Shag, women don't have the levels of testosterone that men have so they can't muscle up like you do. Don't bother giving me names of those famous female body builders, they inject testosterone.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Well done op. I eat about 400g carbs a day, love it, bulking phase I am in

I love carbs too but they were killing me. Don't be fooled into thinking that skinny = healthy.And your right there they do, just have it high on the training days, then lower of the days you don't do anything on.

Plenty of body builders and top athletes do not eat carbs.

Lol yes they do.

No they don't.

I'm sure all the top body builders like Kai Green and Phil Heath don't eat carbs to maintain the 250lbs of weight they hold.

OkYEs its all over utube and they show as well what they eat.

Pointless doing the body building argument here.

But you said top bodybuilders a don't eat carbs?

You think Ronaldo doesn't eat carbs? He's a top athlete. His training burns 2000cals a day, he needs to eat 5000cals to maintain 3000 of that. If he didn't eat carbs he'd have to eat 3 or 4 whole chickens a day to get anywhere near his caloric intake required

She said some, not all.

I don't know anything about serious training whilst low carbing so these are just my thoughts.

Remember that ketosis is a totally different metabolic pathway. Energy doesn't come from carbs. Energy comes from burning fat.

He'd only have to eat whole chickens if he were trying to get his energy requirements from protein which, in ketosis, he wouldn't be.

I don't know anyone who low carbs and is a bodybuilder. However, Topsy has been low carbing for a very long time now and uses a lot of resources I don't.

If she says it's possible for athletes to low carb, I believe her.YEs its possible, but to get muscles u need to be in surplus calories and carbs. Gues for women tho can be on low carbs as thy wont get the same amount of muscles as men.

No Shag, women don't have the levels of testosterone that men have so they can't muscle up like you do. Don't bother giving me names of those famous female body builders, they inject testosterone. "

That's right they don't have the test that men does and I know the pros inject as well x.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

There was a Swedish clinical trial published last year that says a high fat low carb diet is the way to go... just thought I would through that in the mix.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Almost sounding like the Banting diet from Tim Noakes and I know a friend who has dropped about 4 clothes sizes in probably about the same number of months. The only thing that concerns me with this diet is that there is no long term research and its hard trying not to worry about the amount of fat eaten and what doctors have said about it clotting the arteries etc

It is the Banting diet the book is called the real meal revolution.

Fat doesnt make you fat Carbs do!

The innuit eskimo eat a diet that is 95% fat and have some of the lowest heart disease rates in the world."

I'm guessing that the Innuit have a totally different lifestyle (to us) to contend with.

No slouching on the settee wondering what's on after East Enders. No stressing that the rush hour traffic is crawling along at 3mph and that pedestrians appear to be passing them.

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By *ee VianteWoman  over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Almost sounding like the Banting diet from Tim Noakes and I know a friend who has dropped about 4 clothes sizes in probably about the same number of months. The only thing that concerns me with this diet is that there is no long term research and its hard trying not to worry about the amount of fat eaten and what doctors have said about it clotting the arteries etc

It is the Banting diet the book is called the real meal revolution.

Fat doesnt make you fat Carbs do!

The innuit eskimo eat a diet that is 95% fat and have some of the lowest heart disease rates in the world.

I'm guessing that the Innuit have a totally different lifestyle (to us) to contend with.

No slouching on the settee wondering what's on after East Enders. No stressing that the rush hour traffic is crawling along at 3mph and that pedestrians appear to be passing them.

"

More active you mean?

Goodness how to they cope without carbs to give them energy...

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By *ee VianteWoman  over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

do, not to

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By *lashnsparkleCouple  over a year ago

Pembrokeshire

http://www.examiner.com/article/low-carb-ketogenic-diet-beats-chemo-for-most-cancers-says-dr-thomas-seyfried

another advantage

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Almost sounding like the Banting diet from Tim Noakes and I know a friend who has dropped about 4 clothes sizes in probably about the same number of months. The only thing that concerns me with this diet is that there is no long term research and its hard trying not to worry about the amount of fat eaten and what doctors have said about it clotting the arteries etc

It is the Banting diet the book is called the real meal revolution.

Fat doesnt make you fat Carbs do!

The innuit eskimo eat a diet that is 95% fat and have some of the lowest heart disease rates in the world."

Its the idea of cooking with ghee and frying foods in lard and goose fat, that is what's worrying after all surely they are not good for you? Maybe its what we have been brought up to believe?

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By *lashnsparkleCouple  over a year ago

Pembrokeshire


"Almost sounding like the Banting diet from Tim Noakes and I know a friend who has dropped about 4 clothes sizes in probably about the same number of months. The only thing that concerns me with this diet is that there is no long term research and its hard trying not to worry about the amount of fat eaten and what doctors have said about it clotting the arteries etc

It is the Banting diet the book is called the real meal revolution.

Fat doesnt make you fat Carbs do!

The innuit eskimo eat a diet that is 95% fat and have some of the lowest heart disease rates in the world.

Its the idea of cooking with ghee and frying foods in lard and goose fat, that is what's worrying after all surely they are not good for you? Maybe its what we have been brought up to believe?"

Yep big business is brainwashing us margarine is only one chemical component away from paint it was invented to feed turkeys but when the turkeys started dying they added a yellow colour ( it's normally black) and put in a tub and claimed it was healthy!

The same with all corns bread snacks cereal it is cheap to produce so they are making a fortune by making us sick..

Within 6weeks of LCHF you body becomes fat adapted and learns to run on fat no carb addiction or inflammation. More and more athletes are using it to great effect.

In the decades before the 1970 low fat culture people ate real foods not processed and were much healthier.

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