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By *vsnikki OP TV/TS
over a year ago
Limavady |
I don't like them BUT they are here to stay. I can understand why UKIP is included, and sort of unewsstand the Greens but if you include SNP and Plaid Cymru why do they not include DUP. Would it not have made sense to only include the largely National party. (No party stands in all UK constituency.) |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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The answer is that because none of the uk parties have any candidates in Northern Ireland there is a plan for when the bbc and itv hold their debates, they will switch to local programming and have their own debate at the same time |
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"The answer is that because none of the uk parties have any candidates in Northern Ireland there is a plan for when the bbc and itv hold their debates, they will switch to local programming and have their own debate at the same time "
How is the health ?
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Whilst on the one hand, it's up to the broadcasters as they're the ones setting it up and airing it.
On the other hand, due to the influence, ubiquity and prevalence of television, in order for the political process to be fair, there should be regulation as to what constitutes fair and unbiased coverage of election campaigning.
I think it should be the remit of OFCOM, to determine what metrics are used (no of party members, no of MPs no MEPs etc) to determine which parties should be involved in a general televised debate. Obviously a multipartite debate will be harder to control and lack focus and clarity, thus I think we should also have debate between those who are most likely to become prime ministers - in the current climate, this being Blair and Milliband
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"Whilst on the one hand, it's up to the broadcasters as they're the ones setting it up and airing it.
On the other hand, due to the influence, ubiquity and prevalence of television, in order for the political process to be fair, there should be regulation as to what constitutes fair and unbiased coverage of election campaigning.
I think it should be the remit of OFCOM, to determine what metrics are used (no of party members, no of MPs no MEPs etc) to determine which parties should be involved in a general televised debate. Obviously a multipartite debate will be harder to control and lack focus and clarity, thus I think we should also have debate between those who are most likely to become prime ministers - in the current climate, this being Blair and Milliband
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I think that's Cameron and Milliband |
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"Its going to end up looking like 'Take me out'.
I did laugh when I heard that this morning on the tv"
To be honest I really can't see the point of having plaid cymru and the SNP in national debates.
I think at least one debate between Cameron and Miliband with per haps Nick Clegg to who, after all, does have a record in government to defend. Then at least one debate between leaders or representative of Conservative, Labour, Lib Dems, Greens and UKIP.
I also think that there is a good chance that none of these debates will go ahead. The only person who could possibly gain from them is Miliband. Why do I think that? Miliband has a very poor rating in the public eye currently. Given a good platform he may well come across as far better than he currently does. Let's face it, he could not come across as much worse. That's not to say that I personally think he's an idiot; I don't, I think he's actually quite under rated. I also think he is wrong on many things but that is another discussion. |
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By *vsnikki OP TV/TS
over a year ago
Limavady |
"The answer is that because none of the uk parties have any candidates in Northern Ireland there is a plan for when the bbc and itv hold their debates, they will switch to local programming and have their own debate at the same time "
To disagree.
Any parties standing in Northern Ireland are Uk parties.
At the last Westminster election the following Uk wide parties stood in constituencies in Northern Ireland.
Conservative Party
UKIP
Green Party
Communist party
No party has yet declared for the May election
My apologies to anyone I've missed! |
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"The answer is that because none of the uk parties have any candidates in Northern Ireland there is a plan for when the bbc and itv hold their debates, they will switch to local programming and have their own debate at the same time
To disagree.
Any parties standing in Northern Ireland are Uk parties.
At the last Westminster election the following Uk wide parties stood in constituencies in Northern Ireland.
Conservative Party
UKIP
Green Party
Communist party
No party has yet declared for the May election
My apologies to anyone I've missed!"
The Labour party does stand in northern Ireland because the SDLP takes the Labour whip in parliament.
Does the SDLP still even exist?
The Conservative (and Liberal Unionist to give it its full name) didn't use to stand in Northern Ireland because the UUP (Ulster Unionist Party) used to take the Torie whip up until about 1972ish.
Does the UUP still exist?
The Conservative party has put up candidates in Northern Ireland since the early 90s |
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By *vsnikki OP TV/TS
over a year ago
Limavady |
"The answer is that because none of the uk parties have any candidates in Northern Ireland there is a plan for when the bbc and itv hold their debates, they will switch to local programming and have their own debate at the same time
To disagree.
Any parties standing in Northern Ireland are Uk parties.
At the last Westminster election the following Uk wide parties stood in constituencies in Northern Ireland.
Conservative Party
UKIP
Green Party
Communist party
No party has yet declared for the May election
My apologies to anyone I've missed!
The Labour party does stand in northern Ireland because the SDLP takes the Labour whip in parliament.
Does the SDLP still even exist?
The Conservative (and Liberal Unionist to give it its full name) didn't use to stand in Northern Ireland because the UUP (Ulster Unionist Party) used to take the Torie whip up until about 1972ish.
Does the UUP still exist?
The Conservative party has put up candidates in Northern Ireland since the early 90s"
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As far as I'm aware the SDLP do not take anyone's whip. Seems unlikely they would have done so in the 70s and 80's considering their policies.
The UUP was renamed as the Unionist Party.
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"The answer is that because none of the uk parties have any candidates in Northern Ireland there is a plan for when the bbc and itv hold their debates, they will switch to local programming and have their own debate at the same time
To disagree.
Any parties standing in Northern Ireland are Uk parties.
At the last Westminster election the following Uk wide parties stood in constituencies in Northern Ireland.
Conservative Party
UKIP
Green Party
Communist party
No party has yet declared for the May election
My apologies to anyone I've missed!
The Labour party does stand in northern Ireland because the SDLP takes the Labour whip in parliament.
Does the SDLP still even exist?
The Conservative (and Liberal Unionist to give it its full name) didn't use to stand in Northern Ireland because the UUP (Ulster Unionist Party) used to take the Torie whip up until about 1972ish.
Does the UUP still exist?
The Conservative party has put up candidates in Northern Ireland since the early 90s
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As far as I'm aware the SDLP do not take anyone's whip. Seems unlikely they would have done so in the 70s and 80's considering their policies.
The UUP was renamed as the Unionist Party.
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http://labourlist.org/2012/09/a-labour-party-for-the-whole-union/
They could vote for the Ulster Unionists, who had a slightly difficult link-up with the Conservative Party. Or they could vote for the SDLP, who unofficially take the Labour whip. But for those on the left, the SDLP may not necessarily be palpable.
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I think that's Cameron and Milliband
Of course, whatever was I thinking  "
If it's 'him' - Anyone can a mistake.
If it's 'her' - With a body and arse as hot and sexy as yours I don't really care if your right or wrong.  !! |
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By *vsnikki OP TV/TS
over a year ago
Limavady |
"The answer is that because none of the uk parties have any candidates in Northern Ireland there is a plan for when the bbc and itv hold their debates, they will switch to local programming and have their own debate at the same time
To disagree.
Any parties standing in Northern Ireland are Uk parties.
At the last Westminster election the following Uk wide parties stood in constituencies in Northern Ireland.
Conservative Party
UKIP
Green Party
Communist party
No party has yet declared for the May election
My apologies to anyone I've missed!
The Labour party does stand in northern Ireland because the SDLP takes the Labour whip in parliament.
Does the SDLP still even exist?
The Conservative (and Liberal Unionist to give it its full name) didn't use to stand in Northern Ireland because the UUP (Ulster Unionist Party) used to take the Torie whip up until about 1972ish.
Does the UUP still exist?
The Conservative party has put up candidates in Northern Ireland since the early 90s
In answer
As far as I'm aware the SDLP do not take anyone's whip. Seems unlikely they would have done so in the 70s and 80's considering their policies.
The UUP was renamed as the Unionist Party.
quote from
http://labourlist.org/2012/09/a-labour-party-for-the-whole-union/
They could vote for the Ulster Unionists, who had a slightly difficult link-up with the Conservative Party. Or they could vote for the SDLP, who unofficially take the Labour whip. But for those on the left, the SDLP may not necessarily be palpable.
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Suspect that it's the other way round! Labour policy is that, while the majority of the population of Northern Ireland want to remain British, Northern Ireland should be in the UK. The less democratic SDLP just want a United ireland. Not very compatible. |
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