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So Jihadi John is back and it again

By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Just seen sky news there jihadi john is back 2 japanese hostages taken and demanding 200milion in ransom money.I really hope special forces get to this sucmbag soon.What do people think?.

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By *oodmessMan over a year ago

yumsville

Now that we have let them become more organised (instead of going in 10 months ago when all this kicked off) and trained, they will be much harder to fight. Stupidity of the West on Pulling out of Iraq and what was an obviously credible threat.

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By *oodmessMan over a year ago

yumsville

*why do I write anything so early in the bloody day.

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By *he tactile technicianMan over a year ago

the good lands, the bad lands, the any where you may want me lands

"*why do I write anything so early in the bloody day.

"
Yeah! our sentiments entirely

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

After some of the Imans complained about the letter that was sent out by the government. I bet these people are in favour of Jihadi John. And the issue with the letter? There were focusing on Muslims! Are these people for real. 98% of terrorism is Islamic. And most likely you'll get people on here saying what about the Christians, Buddhists terrorism. Wake up and smell the Coffee.

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By *oodmessMan over a year ago

yumsville

"After some of the Imans complained about the letter that was sent out by the government. I bet these people are in favour of Jihadi John. And the issue with the letter? There were focusing on Muslims! Are these people for real. 98% of terrorism is Islamic. And most likely you'll get people on here saying what about the Christians, Buddhists terrorism. Wake up and smell the Coffee."

You should run for Thanet council.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

was hoping the cnut was dead

they are gonna find any excuse to execute what hostages they have

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I have a feeling that when these videos are released the poor hostages are murdered that very day.

Shinzo isn't going to pay $200 million to get them back, they've probably already perished anyway poor guys.

Sad for the loss of life, there is one positive from it and that is another nation that IS have pissed off. Japan have some pretty crazy ass fighters and they can and have been quite evil when fighting.

America, Britain, France, Japan, Germany, Hungary, Australia, Lebanon, Jordan, UAE, Belgium, Denmark, Netherlands, Albania, Canada, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia and whoever else is against ISIS all of these countries combined should just join together and send like a million soldiers there, armoured vehicles and tanks and just kill 'em all, kill 'em all! Air strikes ain't doing shit to stop them.

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By *ouplekinkCouple over a year ago

kink town

"Are these people for real. 98% of terrorism is Islamic"

98%?

Laughable! Did you pluck that number from thin air or can you back it up?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Apparently most terrorist attacks don't involve muslims but when they do they do iton a large scale!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Are these people for real. 98% of terrorism is Islamic

98%?

Laughable! Did you pluck that number from thin air or can you back it up? "

Yes I did pluck it up from thin air! But I'm confident im near to the point Maybe If you could tell us any different with figures? No didn't think so.

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By *ust_for_laughsCouple over a year ago

Hinckley

"Are these people for real. 98% of terrorism is Islamic

98%?

Laughable! Did you pluck that number from thin air or can you back it up?

Yes I did pluck it up from thin air! But I'm confident im near to the point Maybe If you could tell us any different with figures? No didn't think so."

All the data you need is in the post above...

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By *ust_for_laughsCouple over a year ago

Hinckley

And, to be fair, the burden of proof usually lies with the person presenting the hypothesis, not those that question it's veracity!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Are these people for real. 98% of terrorism is Islamic

98%?

Laughable! Did you pluck that number from thin air or can you back it up?

Yes I did pluck it up from thin air! But I'm confident im near to the point Maybe If you could tell us any different with figures? No didn't think so."

If you educate yourself about islamic its a peaceful religion, anyone who is a terrorist is against and out of islam, every imam says it openly, why is it people love to believe everything the media says, there are people in america who are christians but support muslims, who have educated themselfs about islam, before you say something please educate yourself and dont bring forward other peoples opinions, or something you have heard and believed without doing research yourself.

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By *ouplekinkCouple over a year ago

kink town

"Are these people for real. 98% of terrorism is Islamic

98%?

Laughable! Did you pluck that number from thin air or can you back it up?

Yes I did pluck it up from thin air! But I'm confident im near to the point Maybe If you could tell us any different with figures? No didn't think so."

Well at least you admit to making things up to suit your agenda.

You want numbers?

Just a quick search shows between 1980-2005 only 6% of terrorist attacks carried out on US soil were by Islamic extremists. Source FBI .

And Europe shows the same trends, up to 2006, 84.8% of terrorists attacks in Europe were carried out by European separatists. Source europol.

Now that was just a few minutes of 'research' so stop pulling BS out of thin air and stop believing everything you read from Britains First and groups of their ilk!

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By *ust_for_laughsCouple over a year ago

Hinckley

So, if you then decide to count 'terrorist' attacks that they carry out in their own country against 'invaders', are they actually terrorist attacks?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So, if you then decide to count 'terrorist' attacks that they carry out in their own country against 'invaders', are they actually terrorist attacks?"

Oh man i love your comment, i finally found someone with common sense,

Example if somekne came into your house and started to fight you would you stand there and not fight back??

Same thing in iraq and afghanistan who gives the usa and brition the right to invade other peoples country and then have the cheek to call people fighting to kick them out there country as terrorists, they also use OUR tax money on wars, and steal resources like oil, gold etc

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By *vsnikkiTV/TS over a year ago

Limavady

"Are these people for real. 98% of terrorism is Islamic

98%?

Laughable! Did you pluck that number from thin air or can you back it up?

Yes I did pluck it up from thin air! But I'm confident im near to the point Maybe If you could tell us any different with figures? No didn't think so."

No figures but as there is an act of Irish based terrorism nearly every day, I think you're unlikely to be right within the UK at any rate.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit. Only way to be sure

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Just seen sky news there jihadi john is back 2 japanese hostages taken and demanding 200milion in ransom money.I really hope special forces get to this sucmbag soon.What do people think?."

I think it makes no difference if they do get him, people are joining the IS from all over the world on a weekly basis there are a thousand other men ready to fill his shoes

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think it makes no difference if they do get him, people are joining the IS from all over the world on a weekly basis there are a thousand other men ready to fill his shoes "

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Its tragic for the hostages and their families but in the grand scheme Jihadi John is just a side show that helps the propaganda on BOTH sides.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Are these people for real. 98% of terrorism is Islamic

98%?

Laughable! Did you pluck that number from thin air or can you back it up?

Yes I did pluck it up from thin air! But I'm confident im near to the point Maybe If you could tell us any different with figures? No didn't think so.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So, if you then decide to count 'terrorist' attacks that they carry out in their own country against 'invaders', are they actually terrorist attacks?

Oh man i love your comment, i finally found someone with common sense,

Example if somekne came into your house and started to fight you would you stand there and not fight back??

FFS you finished your last comment with educate yourself!. before then declaring IS terrorists as freedom fighters fighting off the old infidel.

I hate to tell you this but upto now those jihadi warriors have been from every other country except Iraq and Afghanistan!, oh yeah those fighters of invading forces have upto now beheaded a journalist and a aid worker with a penknife, shot a hundred kids in a school in Afghanistan, butchered hundreds more in Africa, shot twelve unarmed cartoonists in Paris, a load of innocent people in buildings in NY,a train in Madrid, a bus in London, the nearest they've got to combat is hacking an unarmed off duty soldiers head off in London.... But in some deluded way you think this is fighting off invading forces, they aren't Mandela or Castro with some noble cause.

There deluded half with idiots without two brain cells to rub together, most don't even speak Arabic fluently.

IS IT TERRORISM IF THERE FIGHTING OFF AN INVADING FORCE!!.

do me a fucking favour and educate yourself before trying to educate me.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Are these people for real. 98% of terrorism is Islamic

98%?

Laughable! Did you pluck that number from thin air or can you back it up?

Yes I did pluck it up from thin air! But I'm confident im near to the point Maybe If you could tell us any different with figures? No didn't think so.

I think you're the one who needs education. Read "Satanic Verses" by Salman Rushdie (is there still a fatwa on him?), and perhaps educate yourself a bit more about the country you live in and the multitude of other religions that exist here.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

lol you lot must live in cloud cuckoo land. Let's break this down! Since 2000 how many terrorist attacks have you heard of? And how many have been Islamic? Above 90% Im not just talking about the west I'm talking all over the world. I know not many people can talk as open as me, but why do people inbox and say "I agree totally with you"? I'm not against "Moderate" Muslims just the Jihadi John's! oh sorry maybe we should rename him to "Freedom Fighter John" in fear of offending.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So, if you then decide to count 'terrorist' attacks that they carry out in their own country against 'invaders', are they actually terrorist attacks?

Oh man i love your comment, i finally found someone with common sense,

Example if somekne came into your house and started to fight you would you stand there and not fight back??

Doesn't give anyone the right to behead people for money does it?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Should behead him and all associated with him !!!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I hope Al Qaeda and IS have a big war and kill themselves supported by Israeli weapons

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

'these people'..?

is that the vast and overwhelming majority of decent muslims who have condemned the actions of the extremists..

wake up and smell the coffee, ha...

wake up and spot the blinkered ignorance more like..

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By *ouplekinkCouple over a year ago

kink town

"lol you lot must live in cloud cuckoo land. Let's break this down! Since 2000 how many terrorist attacks have you heard of? And how many have been Islamic? Above 90% Im not just talking about the west I'm talking all over the world. I know not many people can talk as open as me, but why do people inbox and say "I agree totally with you"? I'm not against "Moderate" Muslims just the Jihadi John's! oh sorry maybe we should rename him to "Freedom Fighter John" in fear of offending."

If all you are taking note of, is what is reported in the media then there is no reasoning with you.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Islam is the religion of peace, don't believe me I'll blow you up/chop your head off/shoot you with kalashnikovs"

(That's sarcasm admin, I'm not threatening anyone!)

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

""Islam is the religion of peace, don't believe me I'll blow you up/chop your head off/shoot you with kalashnikovs"

(That's sarcasm admin, I'm not threatening anyone!)"

Who said people who blow them selfs up and behead are muslims?? By name they call themselfs muslims, but there out of islam and us muslims dont see them as muslims.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

well said that man.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So, if you then decide to count 'terrorist' attacks that they carry out in their own country against 'invaders', are they actually terrorist attacks?

Oh man i love your comment, i finally found someone with common sense,

Example if somekne came into your house and started to fight you would you stand there and not fight back??

Doesn't give anyone the right to behead people for money does it? "

I totally agree im 100% against all this beheading, iss and taliban, im muslim and we are totally against them, they are not muslim, by name yes but by actions no.

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By *ust_for_laughsCouple over a year ago

Hinckley

If you want a league table (by most victims) since 2000...

1) Tamil Tigers (Sri Lanka)

2) ISIS (Iraq)

3) Taliban (Afghanistan)

4) Shining Light (Peru)

5) Farabundo Marti National Liberation (El Slvador)

6) Nicaraguan Democratic Force (Nicaragua)

7) Al-Qaida (Iraq)

8) Taliban (Pakistan)

9) Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (Colombia)

10) Kurdistan Workers Party (Turkey)

Only four of those are Islamic terrorist organisations. And I'd guess that most people have never heard of at least another four of them!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If you want a league table (by most victims) since 2000...

1) Tamil Tigers (Sri Lanka)

2) ISIS (Iraq)

3) Taliban (Afghanistan)

4) Shining Light (Peru)

5) Farabundo Marti National Liberation (El Slvador)

6) Nicaraguan Democratic Force (Nicaragua)

7) Al-Qaida (Iraq)

8) Taliban (Pakistan)

9) Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (Colombia)

10) Kurdistan Workers Party (Turkey)

Only four of those are Islamic terrorist organisations. And I'd guess that most people have never heard of at least another four of them!

Just to correct you they aint islamic nor are they muslims.

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By *ust_for_laughsCouple over a year ago

Hinckley

If you want a league table (by most victims) since 2000...

1) Tamil Tigers (Sri Lanka)

2) ISIS (Iraq)

3) Taliban (Afghanistan)

4) Shining Light (Peru)

5) Farabundo Marti National Liberation (El Slvador)

6) Nicaraguan Democratic Force (Nicaragua)

7) Al-Qaida (Iraq)

8) Taliban (Pakistan)

9) Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (Colombia)

10) Kurdistan Workers Party (Turkey)

Only four of those are Islamic terrorist organisations. And I'd guess that most people have never heard of at least another four of them!

Just to correct you they aint islamic nor are they muslims. "

That's quite correct if we're going to go down the pedantic cul-de-sac.

But for the purposes of this conversation, not a theological one, they're classed as Islamic terrorist organisations.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

""Islam is the religion of peace, don't believe me I'll blow you up/chop your head off/shoot you with kalashnikovs"

(That's sarcasm admin, I'm not threatening anyone!)

Who said people who blow them selfs up and behead are muslims?? By name they call themselfs muslims, but there out of islam and us muslims dont see them as muslims. "

So what are they then? If they're calling themselves Muslims and saying that they're committing whatever atrocities in the name of Islam, what is their official term? If they aren't Muslims what are they and what is the correct term to describe them?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

They are the cunts that just started world war three, and get most of there funding from the stinking mosques that have sprung up in this country !!!

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By *ust_for_laughsCouple over a year ago

Hinckley

"They are the cunts that just started world war three, and get most of there funding from the stinking mosques that have sprung up in this country !!!"

Yay, we have a winner for most un-informed comment of the day!

How could a bunch of benefit-scrounging immigrants (© Britain First) fund ISIS to the £1bn+ in assets that it's estimated they currently hold?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I have a feeling that when these videos are released the poor hostages are murdered that very day.

Shinzo isn't going to pay $200 million to get them back, they've probably already perished anyway poor guys.

Unfortunately Saudi Arabia does have a questionable human rights record and follow shia law themselves ( in some strict Muslim areas) which mirrors islamic state. They be head, stone to death and lash people who they believe have gone against this law and have a morality police also. Can not see them sending any soldiers myself but where they don't actually support Islamic State not sure they will do anything to help stop it either.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Just seen sky news there jihadi john is back 2 japanese hostages taken and demanding 200milion in ransom money.I really hope special forces get to this sucmbag soon.What do people think?."

Just seen this report myself on the 6 o'clock news. Is it just me or does the actual photo look a little fake? Like the background isn't real

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Just seen sky news there jihadi john is back 2 japanese hostages taken and demanding 200milion in ransom money.I really hope special forces get to this sucmbag soon.What do people think?.

Just seen this report myself on the 6 o'clock news. Is it just me or does the actual photo look a little fake? Like the background isn't real "

I was thinking that meself when i seen it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So, if you then decide to count 'terrorist' attacks that they carry out in their own country against 'invaders', are they actually terrorist attacks?

Oh man i love your comment, i finally found someone with common sense,

Example if somekne came into your house and started to fight you would you stand there and not fight back??

Doesn't give anyone the right to behead people for money does it?

I totally agree im 100% against all this beheading, iss and taliban, im muslim and we are totally against them, they are not muslim, by name yes but by actions no. "

If they believe that they're muslim, they are and they interpret the koran in their own way. As do you, a muslim on a swinging site. That's the problem with any archaic belief system - interpretations vary enormously.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I have a feeling that when these videos are released the poor hostages are murdered that very day.

Shinzo isn't going to pay $200 million to get them back, they've probably already perished anyway poor guys.

Saudi Arabia have participated with air strikes and so far given $100 million to un counter terrorism centre and $500 million in humanitarian aid.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

My thoughts are with the hostages cant imagine the thoughts and fears knowing what a cruel barbaric execution awaits as for the scum doing this hope ur death is far more painfull

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Just seen sky news there jihadi john is back 2 japanese hostages taken and demanding 200milion in ransom money.I really hope special forces get to this sucmbag soon.What do people think?.

Just seen this report myself on the 6 o'clock news. Is it just me or does the actual photo look a little fake? Like the background isn't real

I was thinking that meself when i seen it."

Not sure about the high amount ransom they are asking for either. Those videos they post are usually to show us how in control they are and what barbaric acts they can do with American and British hostages. Those hostages are either all ready dead,or alive and it was staged. Or as daft as it may seem. Alive safe and in on it playing the part hoping to get the money to either barter for their lives or to fund there fucked up cause. This is only my opinion but I don't think I am alone thinking like this. What country would pay £ 200 million for two of its citizens? I find it all very puzzling myself.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

What does Jihadi John want?

He and ISIS want the West to get our military out of the middle east and leave the Arab countries to sort it out between themselves.

They're not trying to take over the West. They just want us out. Let's not kid ourselves why we're there, we are there to control their oil.

The religious element is a struggle between radical Islam and moderate Islam.

As far as the West is concerned this is about oil and money. We build up the propaganda about terror attacks to justify us being there. The terror attacks wouldn't be happening here if we weren't over there determined to control the oil.

I am in no way condoning Jihadi John's actions, but he's just a nasty little side show.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I have a feeling that when these videos are released the poor hostages are murdered that very day.

Shinzo isn't going to pay $200 million to get them back, they've probably already perished anyway poor guys.

Saudi Arabia have participated with air strikes and so far given $100 million to un counter terrorism centre and $500 million in humanitarian aid. "

I have just read that myself on the Internet after I read about their questionable human rights record . Its hard knowing what is the truth in this subject and from what sources are reliable for us all to quote . Strange though with some of their laws being exactly the same as islamic state if that is to be believed .

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Wonder what will happen too the girl frm uk who joined and now did a runner and wants back in good ole england

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Saudi Arabia have participated with air strikes and so far given $100 million to un counter terrorism centre and $500 million in humanitarian aid. "

Saudi Arabia is the most radical and extreme muslim state out there. ISIS are attempting to create a version of Saudi Arabia in Iraq and Syria.

Why do you think a non democratic country with one of the worst human rights records (by western standards) is one of our closest allies?

Saudi Arabia is proof that we are happy to do business with radical Islamic countries!

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By *aughtyinguMan over a year ago

swindon

Problem is you cant kill a idea. And they know full well the west will prop up people just as bad as them if it suited there interests.

I do wish they wouldn't be dicks about those who aren't aligned to them, and went more after Assad :/

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By *vsnikkiTV/TS over a year ago

Limavady

"Wonder what will happen too the girl frm uk who joined and now did a runner and wants back in good ole england

I suggest she travels to Ireland and then goes into the UK. No need to show her passport in the UK

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Wonder what will happen too the girl frm uk who joined and now did a runner and wants back in good ole england

shouldnt be aloud back tbh she made the choice i wouldnt allow any of them to come back if i was running the country.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I have a feeling that when these videos are released the poor hostages are murdered that very day.

Shinzo isn't going to pay $200 million to get them back, they've probably already perished anyway poor guys.

This is spot on

Blow them all up

Assholes

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Saudi Arabia have participated with air strikes and so far given $100 million to un counter terrorism centre and $500 million in humanitarian aid.

Saudi Arabia is the most radical and extreme muslim state out there. ISIS are attempting to create a version of Saudi Arabia in Iraq and Syria.

And proof that there are as many Muslims that condone extremism?

Why do you think a non democratic country with one of the worst human rights records (by western standards) is one of our closest allies?

Saudi Arabia is proof that we are happy to do business with radical Islamic countries! "

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By *nleashedCrakenMan over a year ago

Widnes

"So, if you then decide to count 'terrorist' attacks that they carry out in their own country against 'invaders', are they actually terrorist attacks?"

I'd definitely count the attacks by the IRA and Spanish ETA in the 70s, 80s and 90s as terrorist attacks. What else would you call them?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"They are the cunts that just started world war three, and get most of there funding from the stinking mosques that have sprung up in this country !!!"

vile, ignorant bigotry again..

least your consistent..

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

Saudi Arabia have participated with air strikes and so far given $100 million to un counter terrorism centre and $500 million in humanitarian aid.

Saudi Arabia is the most radical and extreme muslim state out there. ISIS are attempting to create a version of Saudi Arabia in Iraq and Syria.

Why do you think a non democratic country with one of the worst human rights records (by western standards) is one of our closest allies?

Saudi Arabia is proof that we are happy to do business with radical Islamic countries! "

this..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Are these people for real. 98% of terrorism is Islamic

98%?

Laughable! Did you pluck that number from thin air or can you back it up? "

It came bucket that says there's 100 guys to every woman on fab lol!

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By *vsnikkiTV/TS over a year ago

Limavady

"So, if you then decide to count 'terrorist' attacks that they carry out in their own country against 'invaders', are they actually terrorist attacks?

I'd definitely count the attacks by the IRA and Spanish ETA in the 70s, 80s and 90s as terrorist attacks. What else would you call them?"

You can also add the IRA in the 00s and 10s.

Incidentally are the misguided people that have gone to fight in Syria; become disillusioned and tried to return to the UK, not exactly the ex terrorists you want back in UK? (I'm no fan of terrorism!)

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By *nleashedCrakenMan over a year ago

Widnes

I think there is probably a reasonable position somewhere between believing that 90% of terrorist attacks are by Muslims and believing that Jihadi John is a freedom fighter. Don't you?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"My thoughts are with the hostages cant imagine the thoughts and fears knowing what a cruel barbaric execution awaits as for the scum doing this hope ur death is far more painfull

"
Yes quite true, also the people getting taken hostage whatever Profession they know the dangers of Being there why do they stay and chance This fate surely they have a chance or Choice to go before Any capture could happen or are they Tied into a contract to stay.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan over a year ago

Widnes

""Islam is the religion of peace, don't believe me I'll blow you up/chop your head off/shoot you with kalashnikovs"

(That's sarcasm admin, I'm not threatening anyone!)

Who said people who blow them selfs up and behead are muslims?? By name they call themselfs muslims, but there out of islam and us muslims dont see them as muslims. "

THIS. Of ALL the Muslims I know every one of them has said the same. They can't all be lying.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

""Islam is the religion of peace, don't believe me I'll blow you up/chop your head off/shoot you with kalashnikovs"

(That's sarcasm admin, I'm not threatening anyone!)

Who said people who blow them selfs up and behead are muslims?? By name they call themselfs muslims, but there out of islam and us muslims dont see them as muslims.

THIS. Of ALL the Muslims I know every one of them has said the same. They can't all be lying."
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How many Muslims do you know?

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By *isscheekychopsWoman over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

What isn't sitting well with me is that countries such as France and Italy are paying the Ransom money. I just think this adds fuel to the fire and they will contuine with taking hostages because they know countries will pay. They are also adding to the money pot and will able to buy more guns etc

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

""Islam is the religion of peace, don't believe me I'll blow you up/chop your head off/shoot you with kalashnikovs"

(That's sarcasm admin, I'm not threatening anyone!)

Who said people who blow them selfs up and behead are muslims?? By name they call themselfs muslims, but there out of islam and us muslims dont see them as muslims.

THIS. Of ALL the Muslims I know every one of them has said the same. They can't all be lying."

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

""Islam is the religion of peace, don't believe me I'll blow you up/chop your head off/shoot you with kalashnikovs"

(That's sarcasm admin, I'm not threatening anyone!)

Who said people who blow them selfs up and behead are muslims?? By name they call themselfs muslims, but there out of islam and us muslims dont see them as muslims.

All 10 lol

THIS. Of ALL the Muslims I know every one of them has said the same. They can't all be lying."

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Send them to Scotland! They would either be eaten alive by neds or freeze to death

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By *nleashedCrakenMan over a year ago

Widnes

""Islam is the religion of peace, don't believe me I'll blow you up/chop your head off/shoot you with kalashnikovs"

(That's sarcasm admin, I'm not threatening anyone!)

Who said people who blow them selfs up and behead are muslims?? By name they call themselfs muslims, but there out of islam and us muslims dont see them as muslims.

How about calling them what they are, terrorist, extortionist and murderers who are know more true Muslims than members of the IRA or UDF are true Christians.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan over a year ago

Widnes

"They are the cunts that just started world war three, and get most of there funding from the stinking mosques that have sprung up in this country !!!"

I think you'll find that most of their money, when sourced back, will turn out to have come from Saudi Arabia. I've seen no evidence that large amounts of money have been donated from mosques in this country.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

""Islam is the religion of peace, don't believe me I'll blow you up/chop your head off/shoot you with kalashnikovs"

(That's sarcasm admin, I'm not threatening anyone!)

Who said people who blow them selfs up and behead are muslims?? By name they call themselfs muslims, but there out of islam and us muslims dont see them as muslims.

How about calling them what they are, terrorist, extortionist and murderers who are know more true Muslims than members of the IRA or UDF are true Christians."
the IRA or UDF did not act or claim to act in the name of religion

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

""Islam is the religion of peace, don't believe me I'll blow you up/chop your head off/shoot you with kalashnikovs"

(That's sarcasm admin, I'm not threatening anyone!)

Who said people who blow them selfs up and behead are muslims?? By name

they call themselfs muslims, but there out of islam and us muslims dont see

them as muslims.

Look at you tube Winston Churchill muslims

How about calling them what they are, terrorist, extortionist and murderers who are know more true Muslims than members of the IRA or UDF are true Christians."

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"They are the cunts that just started world war three, and get most of there funding from the stinking mosques that have sprung up in this country !!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"They are the cunts that just started world war three, and get most of there funding from the stinking mosques that have sprung up in this country !!!

So this Muslim country where millions pay homage to their God every year impose and condones barbaric punishments that all on this sight would receive for their life style does not represent a major part of Islam ?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"They are the cunts that just started world war three, and get most of there funding from the stinking mosques that have sprung up in this country !!!

define major..?

by numbers..?

think there about 1.4 billion people who are members of the Islamic faith..

population of Saudi is..?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"They are the cunts that just started world war three, and get most of there funding from the stinking mosques that have sprung up in this country !!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"They are the cunts that just started world war three, and get most of there funding from the stinking mosques that have sprung up in this country !!!

define major..?

by numbers..?

think there about 1.4 billion people who are members of the Islamic faith..

population of Saudi is..?"

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"They are the cunts that just started world war three, and get most of there funding from the stinking mosques that have sprung up in this country !!!

its 28.83 million..

hardly major..

totally agree its a barbaric regime though..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"What does Jihadi John want?

He and ISIS want the West to get our military out of the middle east and leave the Arab countries to sort it out between themselves.

They're not trying to take over the West. They just want us out. Let's not kid ourselves why we're there, we are there to control their oil.

The religious element is a struggle between radical Islam and moderate Islam.

I am in no way condoning Jihadi John's actions, but he's just a nasty little side show."

My cousin died during operation Teliq in Iraq in 2005 he was 22 and I remember having the oil and money conversation with him about 18 months before, he told me then that the place was in a shit state, children couldn't go to school civilians couldn't do fuck all. I said to him he's putting his life in danger just because we want their oil but he said he wouldn't risk his life for that and if I'd seen what they do out there I wouldn't be saying that. He believed he was helping them. Nevermind.

I'd be all for pulling all our troops out of the shit hole countries that they have to go to, none of them want to be there.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"They are the cunts that just started world war three, and get most of there funding from the stinking mosques that have sprung up in this country !!!

I think you will find it substantial

Want numbers look it up !!!!

Take any individualal country numbers could be seen as low

define major..?

by numbers..?

think there about 1.4 billion people who are members of the Islamic faith..

population of Saudi is..?"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"They are the cunts that just started world war three, and get most of there funding from the stinking mosques that have sprung up in this country !!!

I think you will find it substantial

Want numbers look it up !!!!

Take any individualal country numbers could be seen as low

define major..?

by numbers..?

think there about 1.4 billion people who are members of the Islamic faith..

population of Saudi is..?"

use the quote and reply thingie..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"They are the cunts that just started world war three, and get most of there funding from the stinking mosques that have sprung up in this country !!!

I think you will find it substantial

Want numbers look it up !!!!

Take any individualal country numbers could be seen as low

define major..?

by numbers..?

think there about 1.4 billion people who are members of the Islamic faith..

population of Saudi is..?

use the quote and reply thingie.."

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit. Only way to be sure

Proper quote, nice one! Lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"They are the cunts that just started world war three, and get most of there funding from the stinking mosques that have sprung up in this country !!!

I think you will find it substantial

Want numbers look it up !!!!

Take any individualal country numbers could be seen as low

define major..?

by numbers..?

think there about 1.4 billion people who are members of the Islamic faith..

population of Saudi is..?

use the quote and reply thingie.."

I am abroad on wifi and it's not working to well being a smart ass don't umpress !

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"They are the cunts that just started world war three, and get most of there funding from the stinking mosques that have sprung up in this country !!!

I think you will find it substantial

Want numbers look it up !!!!

Take any individualal country numbers could be seen as low

define major..?

by numbers..?

think there about 1.4 billion people who are members of the Islamic faith..

population of Saudi is..?

use the quote and reply thingie..

I am abroad on wifi and it's not working to well being a smart ass don't umpress ! "
im fucking press even lol

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By *nleashedCrakenMan over a year ago

Widnes

"What does Jihadi John want?

He and ISIS want the West to get our military out of the middle east and leave the Arab countries to sort it out between themselves.

They're not trying to take over the West. They just want us out. Let's not kid ourselves why we're there, we are there to control their oil.

The religious element is a struggle between radical Islam and moderate Islam.

I am in no way condoning Jihadi John's actions, but he's just a nasty little side show."

On this point I totally disagree with you. ISIS is a fundamentalist group that will not tolerate any belief other than their own. They are no different than Boko Haram in Nigeria or some of the extreme Christian fundamentalist in N.America. These people are not fighting for anyone's freedom they are fighting to enslave ALL of us in a world of ignorance and fear and ALL if us who cherish our freedom have to oppose them and not excuse their actions in anyway whatsoever.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"They are the cunts that just started world war three, and get most of there funding from the stinking mosques that have sprung up in this country !!!

I think you will find it substantial

Want numbers look it up !!!!

Take any individualal country numbers could be seen as low

define major..?

by numbers..?

think there about 1.4 billion people who are members of the Islamic faith..

population of Saudi is..?

use the quote and reply thingie..

I am abroad on wifi and it's not working to well being a smart ass don't umpress ! "

its impress..

and how is anyone reminding someone to use a site tool in order to facilitate a clearer exchange of opinion being 'smart'..

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By *nleashedCrakenMan over a year ago

Widnes

"Problem is you cant kill a idea. And they know full well the west will prop up people just as bad as them if it suited there interests.

I do wish they wouldn't be dicks about those who aren't aligned to them, and went more after Assad :/"

Fundamentalists do not tolerate dissent, you are either with them or you're against them. They have no middle ground.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"They are the cunts that just started world war three, and get most of there funding from the stinking mosques that have sprung up in this country !!!

I think you will find it substantial

Want numbers look it up !!!!

Take any individualal country numbers could be seen as low

define major..?

by numbers..?

think there about 1.4 billion people who are members of the Islamic faith..

population of Saudi is..?

use the quote and reply thingie..

I am abroad on wifi and it's not working to well being a smart ass don't umpress !

its impress..

and how is anyone reminding someone to use a site tool in order to facilitate a clearer exchange of opinion being 'smart'..

"
Are you denying Saudia Arabia is not a major part of the Islamic world ?

Do you think pettiness makes your point any better

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"They are the cunts that just started world war three, and get most of there funding from the stinking mosques that have sprung up in this country !!!

its 28.83 million..

hardly major..

totally agree its a barbaric regime though.."
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Were all Germans Nazis?

Were all catholics in n/Ireland ira members.

No of course not, but at the same time it would be stupid and ignorant to say they had no following from moderate people.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan over a year ago

Widnes

""Islam is the religion of peace, don't believe me I'll blow you up/chop your head off/shoot you with kalashnikovs"

(That's sarcasm admin, I'm not threatening anyone!)

Who said people who blow them selfs up and behead are muslims?? By name they call themselfs muslims, but there out of islam and us muslims dont see them as muslims.

THIS. Of ALL the Muslims I know every one of them has said the same. They can't all be lying..

How many Muslims do you know?"

I don't keep a record but probably a lot more than most who aren't muslim themselves. How many would be enough to count, 2, 10, 50, 100?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"They are the cunts that just started world war three, and get most of there funding from the stinking mosques that have sprung up in this country !!!

I think you will find it substantial

Want numbers look it up !!!!

Take any individualal country numbers could be seen as low

define major..?

by numbers..?

think there about 1.4 billion people who are members of the Islamic faith..

population of Saudi is..?

use the quote and reply thingie..

I am abroad on wifi and it's not working to well being a smart ass don't umpress !

its impress..

and how is anyone reminding someone to use a site tool in order to facilitate a clearer exchange of opinion being 'smart'..

Are you denying Saudia Arabia is not a major part of the Islamic world ?

Do you think pettiness makes your point any better "
.Unless somebody picks Mecca up and moves it to the isle of Mann, the centre of Islam will always be Saudi Arabia

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

""Islam is the religion of peace, don't believe me I'll blow you up/chop your head off/shoot you with kalashnikovs"

(That's sarcasm admin, I'm not threatening anyone!)

Who said people who blow them selfs up and behead are muslims?? By name they call themselfs muslims, but there out of islam and us muslims dont see them as muslims.

THIS. Of ALL the Muslims I know every one of them has said the same. They can't all be lying..

How many Muslims do you know?

I don't keep a record but probably a lot more than most who aren't muslim themselves. How many would be enough to count, 2, 10, 50, 100?"
750 million... At least we need confirmation it's a majority

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"They are the cunts that just started world war three, and get most of there funding from the stinking mosques that have sprung up in this country !!!

its 28.83 million..

hardly major..

totally agree its a barbaric regime though...

Were all Germans Nazis?

Were all catholics in n/Ireland ira members.

No of course not, but at the same time it would be stupid and ignorant to say they had no following from moderate people.

think for a change that you've gone off on a tangent..

the question isn't about moderates in relation to a barbaric regime and its 'alleged' support for extremists..

one or two extremely rich and powerful people is sufficient..

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"They are the cunts that just started world war three, and get most of there funding from the stinking mosques that have sprung up in this country !!!

I think you will find it substantial

Want numbers look it up !!!!

Take any individualal country numbers could be seen as low

define major..?

by numbers..?

think there about 1.4 billion people who are members of the Islamic faith..

population of Saudi is..?

use the quote and reply thingie..

I am abroad on wifi and it's not working to well being a smart ass don't umpress !

its impress..

and how is anyone reminding someone to use a site tool in order to facilitate a clearer exchange of opinion being 'smart'..

Are you denying Saudia Arabia is not a major part of the Islamic world ?

Do you think pettiness makes your point any better "

good to see your wifi is better..

pettiness..

there's ironic..

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By *nleashedCrakenMan over a year ago

Widnes

""Islam is the religion of peace, don't believe me I'll blow you up/chop your head off/shoot you with kalashnikovs"

(That's sarcasm admin, I'm not threatening anyone!)

Who said people who blow them selfs up and behead are muslims?? By name they call themselfs muslims, but there out of islam and us muslims dont see them as muslims.

How about calling them what they are, terrorist, extortionist and murderers who are know more true Muslims than members of the IRA or UDF are true Christians.the IRA or UDF did not act or claim to act in the name of religion"

Well some did but ok, was the UDF representative of the true Unionists community or the IRA truly representative of the Republican community. In the same way ISIS is not representative of the Muslim community.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

""Islam is the religion of peace, don't believe me I'll blow you up/chop your head off/shoot you with kalashnikovs"

(That's sarcasm admin, I'm not threatening anyone!)

Who said people who blow them selfs up and behead are muslims?? By name they call themselfs muslims, but there out of islam and us muslims dont see them as muslims.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Are these people for real. 98% of terrorism is Islamic

98%?

Laughable! Did you pluck that number from thin air or can you back it up?

Yes I did pluck it up from thin air! But I'm confident im near to the point Maybe If you could tell us any different with figures? No didn't think so.

we don't need to do any more research we seen the videos of heads being chopped off, children and women being kidnapped, trains and busses blown up, twin towers falling down, the recent acts in france.... need l go on.

for a peaceful religion they don't half do a lot of innocent killing in the name of Allah or whatever his name is. imans are all talk,talk,talk but do they do anything to out the bad apples ? l would guess sod all

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By *nleashedCrakenMan over a year ago

Widnes

"They are the cunts that just started world war three, and get most of there funding from the stinking mosques that have sprung up in this country !!!

I don't believe the Saudi government represents the Saudi people but whatever the government or people of Saudi Arabia believe or do I don't see what that has to do British people in this country who happen to be muslim, especially as most Muslims in this country have no connection with Saudi Arabia or even the middle east.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

""Islam is the religion of peace, don't believe me I'll blow you up/chop your head off/shoot you with kalashnikovs"

(That's sarcasm admin, I'm not threatening anyone!)

Who said people who blow them selfs up and behead are muslims?? By name they call themselfs muslims, but there out of islam and us muslims dont see them as muslims.

How about calling them what they are, terrorist, extortionist and murderers who are know more true Muslims than members of the IRA or UDF are true Christians."

For anyone genuinely interested, from the Islamic perspective, groups like ISIS are referred to as "Khawarij"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"They are the cunts that just started world war three, and get most of there funding from the stinking mosques that have sprung up in this country !!!

its 28.83 million..

hardly major..

totally agree its a barbaric regime though...

Were all Germans Nazis?

Were all catholics in n/Ireland ira members.

No of course not, but at the same time it would be stupid and ignorant to say they had no following from moderate people.

think for a change that you've gone off on a tangent..

the question isn't about moderates in relation to a barbaric regime and its 'alleged' support for extremists..

one or two extremely rich and powerful people is sufficient.."
.

Hey I posted openly on the forum months ago exactly where I think Isis get their funding, I wrote a very long post about the links for Bandar bin sultan and Isis, I've agreed with blackspice and yourself many times about where the extremism comes from, but I'm just saying look at history.

The minority always control the majority, to deny there's moderate Muslims that think it's a noble cause is just stupid, there's thousand's of them.

The propaganda bs on both sides is at full speed.

Contrary to popular belief I can be realistic and left wing.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

""Islam is the religion of peace, don't believe me I'll blow you up/chop your head off/shoot you with kalashnikovs"

(That's sarcasm admin, I'm not threatening anyone!)

Who said people who blow them selfs up and behead are muslims?? By name they call themselfs muslims, but there out of islam and us muslims dont see them as muslims.

THIS. Of ALL the Muslims I know every one of them has said the same. They can't all be lying..

How many Muslims do you know?

I don't keep a record but probably a lot more than most who aren't muslim themselves. How many would be enough to count, 2, 10, 50, 100?"

A reply that suited a stupid question perfectly

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"They are the cunts that just started world war three, and get most of there funding from the stinking mosques that have sprung up in this country !!!

You do know Mecca the birthplace of Muhammed is in Saudi and that all Muslims must make the trip at least once in their life!! But preferably annular

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"They are the cunts that just started world war three, and get most of there funding from the stinking mosques that have sprung up in this country !!!

its 28.83 million..

hardly major..

totally agree its a barbaric regime though...

Were all Germans Nazis?

Were all catholics in n/Ireland ira members.

No of course not, but at the same time it would be stupid and ignorant to say they had no following from moderate people.

think for a change that you've gone off on a tangent..

the question isn't about moderates in relation to a barbaric regime and its 'alleged' support for extremists..

one or two extremely rich and powerful people is sufficient...

The minority always control the majority, to deny there's moderate Muslims that think it's a noble cause is just stupid, there's thousand's of them.

The propaganda bs on both sides is at full speed.

Contrary to popular belief I can be realistic and left wing."

point taken and your right, apologies..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Send them to Scotland! They would either be eaten alive by neds or freeze to death

better still why not send Scotland to them lol

would of saved us having a referendum

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"They are the cunts that just started world war three, and get most of there funding from the stinking mosques that have sprung up in this country !!!

Or does that not suit your view

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By *nleashedCrakenMan over a year ago

Widnes

"Are these people for real. 98% of terrorism is Islamic

98%?

Laughable! Did you pluck that number from thin air or can you back it up?

Yes I did pluck it up from thin air! But I'm confident im near to the point Maybe If you could tell us any different with figures? No didn't think so.

I think they probably do, apart from talking, telling their congregations that such acts are anti-Islam and condemning those that perpetrate them, what more bo you suggest these inmans do?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

You do know Mecca the birthplace of Muhammed is in Saudi and that all Muslims must make the trip at least once in their life!! But preferably annular"

It's also true that most muslim scholars outside of Saudi reject the legitimacy of the House of Saud and their control of that region... Such is the distrust that Sunni Muslims (the majority) who pray at Mecca during the pilgrimage often repeat their ALL their daily prayers when they return home...additionally they annually dispute the moon sightings from Saudi and choose to celebrate Eid or begin Fasting based on sightings in other countries.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

You do know Mecca the birthplace of Muhammed is in Saudi and that all Muslims must make the trip at least once in their life!! But preferably annular

I wouldn't know they don't let non Muslims in to Mecca

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

There a really tolerant religion like that!

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By *nleashedCrakenMan over a year ago

Widnes

"They are the cunts that just started world war three, and get most of there funding from the stinking mosques that have sprung up in this country !!!

You do know Mecca the birthplace of Muhammed is in Saudi and that all Muslims must make the trip at least once in their life!! But preferably annular"

Many British Catholics make pilgrimage to Rome; it does not make them any more Italian than any other British person.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Just like to say thanks to everyone posted on the thread and it wasnt even hyjacked once fair play.

some really great comments there i dont normally post on the english forum as i use the irish one thanks again everyone.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"They are the cunts that just started world war three, and get most of there funding from the stinking mosques that have sprung up in this country !!!

You do know Mecca the birthplace of Muhammed is in Saudi and that all Muslims must make the trip at least once in their life!! But preferably annular

Many British Catholics make pilgrimage to Rome; it does not make them any more Italian than any other British person."
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Yeah but you don't have to make the pilgrimage and if you did have to I would conclude they have some say over a Catholics life.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan over a year ago

Widnes

"They are the cunts that just started world war three, and get most of there funding from the stinking mosques that have sprung up in this country !!!

Or does that not suit your view "

I'm mostly concerned about what's happening to British people but I speak from my experience of all people I know from around the world. Unfortunately I don't know that many from Saudi Arabia so can't speak with any authority on what the people of that country really think. I can only say that I do not believe that its repressive government truly represents its people. As for Muslims I do know from other countries I do not see in them any of the hatred or will to kill either me or anyone else that you seem to believe they all have.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"They are the cunts that just started world war three, and get most of there funding from the stinking mosques that have sprung up in this country !!!

Or does that not suit your view

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

You do know Mecca the birthplace of Muhammed is in Saudi and that all Muslims must make the trip at least once in their life!! But preferably annular

I wouldn't know they don't let non Muslims in to Mecca"

Now you know...

Have a look at moonlighting.com or visit most UK mosques before the fasting period and you'll soon learn how frustrated non Wahhabi muslims are that the Saudi family are custodians of the two shrines.

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By *vsnikkiTV/TS over a year ago

Limavady

Just to clarify for you, I have never heard of the UDF as a terrorist organisation , but I assume that you mean the UDA and UVF. You could also add the UFF and Red Hand Commandos on the loyalist side and the INLA on the Republican side. There are numerous others, especially nowadays. None of them claimed/claim to fight for a religious point of view but for political belief. With the ways that political views have developed in Northern Ireland these political views largely mirror religious beliefs. It's just been easier for the media to represent it in religious only ways. Fairly similar around the whole World.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan over a year ago

Widnes

"They are the cunts that just started world war three, and get most of there funding from the stinking mosques that have sprung up in this country !!!

You do know Mecca the birthplace of Muhammed is in Saudi and that all Muslims must make the trip at least once in their life!! But preferably annular

Many British Catholics make pilgrimage to Rome; it does not make them any more Italian than any other British person..

Yeah but you don't have to make the pilgrimage and if you did have to I would conclude they have some say over a Catholics life."

I Don't? I wish someone had told me that before I went.

Many Catholics believe pilgrimage to Rome is a duty they should try to forefill, very similar to Muslims and mecca. And if course a persons religion has a say over their lives.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

You do know Mecca the birthplace of Muhammed is in Saudi and that all Muslims must make the trip at least once in their life!! But preferably annular

I wouldn't know they don't let non Muslims in to Mecca

Now you know...

I actually knew that, sorry I'm in a bad mood from the green thread lol.

My dad spent 20 years working in Saudi in jeddah and Riyadh, he loves Saudis and loved his time there, we disagree on the place but not the people!.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan over a year ago

Widnes

"They are the cunts that just started world war three, and get most of there funding from the stinking mosques that have sprung up in this country !!!

Or does that not suit your view

You know people from these countries and they have told you personally that they want to kill you and everyone else?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

does anybody know how many dolphins died in the Indian Ocean last year?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I worship the phallous, I worship mars ice creams and I worship menthol fags.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan over a year ago

Widnes

"I worship the phallous, I worship mars ice creams and I worship menthol fags. "

Does that mean that you want to kill people who don't worship those things?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Sterling Menthol Superkings - fags of the gods ! x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Athena - we worship your arse lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I worship the phallous, I worship mars ice creams and I worship menthol fags.

Does that mean that you want to kill people who don't worship those things?"

Nope and if someone was on a diet I wouldn't eat my mars infront of them and if they didn't smoke I wouldn't smoke anywhere near them.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan over a year ago

Widnes

So, because some Muslim leaders have complained about a letter written by a government minister that means they're terrorists or terrorist supporters. I think you guys need to go buy some coffee and take a good long sniff.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan over a year ago

Widnes

"I worship the phallous, I worship mars ice creams and I worship menthol fags.

Does that mean that you want to kill people who don't worship those things?

Nope and if someone was on a diet I wouldn't eat my mars infront of them and if they didn't smoke I wouldn't smoke anywhere near them.

How about if they had their own phallus?

he he

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Let's stop all this smell the coffee nonsense. Never in my lifetime has there been such a troublesome lot - I have grown up with Poles, Ukrainians, West Indians etc etc - all of whom have integrated and inter-married - the Muslims will not - and that is the root of the problem - they are utterly separatist and will not be happy until everyone is converted to Islam - full stop.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan over a year ago

Widnes

"Let's stop all this smell the coffee nonsense. Never in my lifetime has there been such a troublesome lot - I have grown up with Poles, Ukrainians, West Indians etc etc - all of whom have integrated and inter-married - the Muslims will not - and that is the root of the problem - they are utterly separatist and will not be happy until everyone is converted to Islam - full stop.

The only ones I've seen like that are on the TV the ones I know are not.

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By *HaRiFMan over a year ago

Beyond the shadows.

possibly but but i think they have been smelling the coffee for a long time as its also true that 95% of the victims of it are also from the same religious background.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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Now just because a small minority do honour killings of their daughters doesn't mean there all nuts.

No I shouldnt poke fun, they really are a small minority but this constant denial from the typically British thing to do of apologising for everything is certainly not helping anything.

As somebody once said the first step to solving anything is admitting the problem in the first place.

And that is there is a sizable minority of Muslims that hold very suspect beliefs sustained from their religion.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"They are the cunts that just started world war three, and get most of there funding from the stinking mosques that have sprung up in this country !!!

Or does that not suit your view

You know people from these countries and they have told you personally that they want to kill you and everyone else?"
i am not worried about them trying to kill me because thay are to busy killing fellow Muslims

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The only ones I've seen like that are on the TV the ones I know are not. "
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I suggest you visit Blackburn!

That's not to suggest blame but just a fact that multiculturalism hasn't worked for some specific cultures.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The only ones I've seen like that are on the TV the ones I know are not. .

I suggest you visit Blackburn!

That's not to suggest blame but just a fact that multiculturalism hasn't worked for some specific cultures."
or Birmingham

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

A Muslim man (counted him as a friend actually) said to me 30 years ago in Manchester that it was the wish of every Muslim to ensure that one day Britain was an Islamic State. He explained that they would eventually take over the newspapers, councils and other forms of influence and Sharia Law would eventually rule. He wasn't violent or anything but quite open that every single Muslim in this country was committed to this cause - that's what I mean - as a non-believer you are not even classed as a second class citizen - as the book says "take neither a Christian nor a Jew as your friend" - I considered him to be one but did he consider me as one ? I have no idea - anyway enough said - a very emotive issue - peace to all men

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"What does Jihadi John want?

He and ISIS want the West to get our military out of the middle east and leave the Arab countries to sort it out between themselves.

They're not trying to take over the West. They just want us out. Let's not kid ourselves why we're there, we are there to control their oil.

The religious element is a struggle between radical Islam and moderate Islam.

I am in no way condoning Jihadi John's actions, but he's just a nasty little side show.

Boko Haram along with the other extremist you've mentioned are not specifically targeting and killing westerners, they're not attempting or encouraging acts of terror in the UK. If you are right and they are no different, why aren't they terrorising us?

I know they are all fundamentalists, I have never excused any of their actions including ISIS in any way.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"A Muslim man (counted him as a friend actually) said to me 30 years ago in Manchester that it was the wish of every Muslim to ensure that one day Britain was an Islamic State. He explained that they would eventually take over the newspapers, councils and other forms of influence and Sharia Law would eventually rule. He wasn't violent or anything but quite open that every single Muslim in this country was committed to this cause - that's what I mean - as a non-believer you are not even classed as a second class citizen "
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You could actually take this bit of your post and replace Muslim for Jewish and you'd be a little bit nearer the truth but just as politically incorrect

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Maybe - but our local council is now made up of 40% Muslims - I don't see many Jewish etc councillors ?

And we have had huge investigations into voting fraud - all in Muslim seats - tends to back up what he said to me ? x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Terrifying stuff eh? However, Muslims only constitute around 4.5% of the UK population so it'll will be a long time, sorry, never, for Britain to become an Islamic State.

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By *rown_cock_edinMan over a year ago

edinburgh

"Are these people for real. 98% of terrorism is Islamic

98%?

Laughable! Did you pluck that number from thin air or can you back it up? "

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Maybe - but our local council is now made up of 40% Muslims - I don't see many Jewish etc councillors ?

And we have had huge investigations into voting fraud - all in Muslim seats - tends to back up what he said to me ? x"
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Rotherham, Blackburn, Leeds or bury?.

I'm afraid from my substantial amount of dealings with local councillors the one thing that unites them regardless of colour or creed is there down right corruptness.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The Nazi's once comprised 2% of Germany - look what happened very quickly !

Anyway the answer is easy - ban all religion - everyone convert to swinging - happy world !!

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By *nleashedCrakenMan over a year ago

Widnes

Now just because a small minority do honour killings of their daughters doesn't mean there all nuts.

No I shouldnt poke fun, they really are a small minority but this constant denial from the typically British thing to do of apologising for everything is certainly not helping anything.

As somebody once said the first step to solving anything is admitting the problem in the first place.

And that is there is a sizable minority of Muslims that hold very suspect beliefs sustained from their religion."

I'm no apologist for any form of extreme behaviour whether from Muslims, Christians or any other group. If we really want to defeat this threat then we have to keep ALL reasonable people on the same page and constantly oppose extreme views wherever they come from. It is only by standing firm against all intolerance that we can defeat the radicals.

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By *HaRiFMan over a year ago

Beyond the shadows.

Terrifying stuff eh? However, Muslims only constitute around 4.5% of the UK population so it'll will be a long time, sorry, never, for Britain to become an Islamic State."

Very true, but if you read the papers and watch the news. They have you believe otherwise.

Capitalism needs an enemy, and with communism almost dead in the water. Who you gonna call?

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By *nleashedCrakenMan over a year ago

Widnes

"They are the cunts that just started world war three, and get most of there funding from the stinking mosques that have sprung up in this country !!!

Or does that not suit your view

You know people from these countries and they have told you personally that they want to kill you and everyone else?i am not worried about them trying to kill me because thay are to busy killing fellow Muslims

So that's a no then.

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By *vsnikkiTV/TS over a year ago

Limavady

You could actually take this bit of your post and replace Muslim for Jewish and you'd be a little bit nearer the truth but just as politically incorrect

or Roman Catholic, or Mormon, or Atheist, or members of the Church of Scientology or Jedi (sorry I made the last one up but you get the point)

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Send the SAS in and kill the cunt

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Ever read the old testament? You'll find many similarities there!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Time to close the thread?

We are all united via swinging - aren't we ? x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Terrifying stuff eh? However, Muslims only constitute around 4.5% of the UK population so it'll will be a long time, sorry, never, for Britain to become an Islamic State.

Very true, but if you read the papers and watch the news. They have you believe otherwise.

Capitalism needs an enemy, and with communism almost dead in the water. Who you gonna call?

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..ghostbusters

Some time soon I think capitalism will join it.

How bad it gets after that, who knows but one things for sure religion won't help..... It's gods way I tell yer

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"What does Jihadi John want?

He and ISIS want the West to get our military out of the middle east and leave the Arab countries to sort it out between themselves.

They're not trying to take over the West. They just want us out. Let's not kid ourselves why we're there, we are there to control their oil.

The religious element is a struggle between radical Islam and moderate Islam.

I am in no way condoning Jihadi John's actions, but he's just a nasty little side show.

I'd be all for pulling all our troops out of the shit hole countries that they have to go to, none of them want to be there.

I'm sorry to hear about the loss of your cousin. I'm happy he believed his sacrifice was for a noble cause.

I believe completely that our foreign policy over the last few decades has been based on our need to influence the flow of oil.

Why aren't we active in Nigeria against Boko Haram. The recent Sudan conflicts, I can list many more, all of which stronger arguments could be made to justify a noble war.

The bottom line is that Iraq has 10% of the world's oil reserves. When Saddam briefly held Kuwait he controlled 20% of the total known world oil revenues at the time.

That was enough to be able to hold western economies to ransom.

It will never be allowed to happen again.

ISIS are religious extremists but it's definitely not all about religion and has very little to do with normal British Muslims trying to live a peaceful life in the UK.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan over a year ago

Widnes

The only ones I've seen like that are on the TV the ones I know are not. .

I suggest you visit Blackburn!

That's not to suggest blame but just a fact that multiculturalism hasn't worked for some specific cultures."

I've never believed in multiculturalism and

I don't think multiculturalism has worked anywhere particularly well but that does not mean that we should try total intolerance instead.

I'm sure if I go looking for intolerant Muslims I'll find them. I'm also pretty sure I could find pretty intolerant people from other communities if I went looking for them. But in my normal life, meeting people I normally meet, I have not found Muslims to be particularly intolerant and in many ways more tolerant than many others. I speak only from my own personal experience.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

You could actually take this bit of your post and replace Muslim for Jewish and you'd be a little bit nearer the truth but just as politically incorrect

or Roman Catholic, or Mormon, or Atheist, or members of the Church of Scientology or Jedi (sorry I made the last one up but you get the point)"
well not Roman catholic or Christan based faiths as there the defacto religion, they can't covertly take over what they already run!. No you'd have to go to the third world to see Christianity sneaking in the back door.

Mormons and scientologist get laughed and derided for their stupid religion openly by everyone, I hardly ever notice people getting upset about offending jedi's either or pagans.

Ahhh yes they've got the wrong skin colour for people to be offended for.

Humans were so pathetic I sometimes hope we don't make it

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Terrifying stuff eh? However, Muslims only constitute around 4.5% of the UK population so it'll will be a long time, sorry, never, for Britain to become an Islamic State."

In my town (I don't really live in Swansea that's just my nearest city) anyway I just looked at the stats for my town and it showed 96.8% are white welsh, 1% English, 0.6% Republic of Ireland, 1.2% outside the EU, 0.4%EU countries and 0.4% Scottish!

I could probably name who is outside the EU, mr and mrs sung and their children from my Chinese, makesh and his family that own the coca cola newsagents and mr khaliq and his family that own the bigger off licence and shop. Then you've got Shazad, one of the sons of the people that own the Raj tandoori, you've got the polish family that live by my auntie and the mother works in the hairdressers and that's about all I know.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"They are the cunts that just started world war three, and get most of there funding from the stinking mosques that have sprung up in this country !!!

Or does that not suit your view

So that's a no then."
so muslims are not been killed by fellow Muslims world wide for various reasons that are indefensible ,,,,, I think that's a big yes

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Oldham - over 50,000 - almost a quarter of the population of the Metropolitan Borough - and by far the fastest growing sector of the population. It has caused conflict - an awful lot in the town - I have no idea how it will ever be solved simply because (as I have said) the Muslims do not want to integrate. Many primary schools now have a very large % of children whose first language is not English - where does that take us eventually?

Repeat the same for many northern industrial or ex textile towns.

It's one of the biggest problems we face - how to integrate when one side does not seem to have the desire to do so ?

Doubt we'll find the answers on here though