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Right to offend, except jews
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"Any prejudice is wrong. LOVE one another. Simple. " Jolly well said we all live on this pale blue dot floating in space we have a moral obligation to be nicer to each other  | |||
"Any prejudice is wrong. LOVE one another. Simple. Jolly well said we all live on this pale blue dot floating in space we have a moral obligation to be nicer to each other "It's far easier to hate than to love. | |||
"The pm says he will fight to keep the right to offend. but then says he will stamp out anti semitic speech. So free speech, except against Jews! " Good, because he offends me in so many ways!! | |||
"The pm says he will fight to keep the right to offend. but then says he will stamp out anti semitic speech. So free speech, except against Jews! " Ahhh but dont you live in an extremist moslem community where infidels dare not go? according to fox news anyway? lol | |||
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"A very great man once said.... No one is born hating another person because of the colour of his skin, or his background, or his religion. People must learn to hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love, for love comes more naturally to the human heart than hate. " Charlie Chaplin  | |||
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"A very great man once said.... No one is born hating another person because of the colour of his skin, or his background, or his religion. People must learn to hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love, for love comes more naturally to the human heart than hate. " I love this man. | |||
"The pm says he will fight to keep the right to offend. Good, because he offends me in so many ways!!" | |||
 We are equally free to ignore you, not buy your product, not watch your programme, not listen to your broadcast, not employ you, not read your paper etc
However, we do have 'hate speech' in this country which is against the law. From wikipedia:
"Hate speech is, outside the law, speech that attacks a person or group on the basis of attributes such as gender, ethnic origin, religion, race, disability, or sexual orientation.
In law, hate speech is any speech, gesture or conduct, writing, or display which is forbidden because it may incite violence or prejudicial action against or by a protected individual or group, or because it disparages or intimidates a protected individual or group."
So basically, you can't actually not allowed to offend anyone anymore because you're technically breaking the law. Another way of viewing it is as thus; you only want to listen to something you like to hear and everything else offends you so it must be banned. Well I'm offended by the Tory Manifesto so can I have it banned as hate speech please? No? Oh well, such is the double headed sword of free speech.
For me, just because someone is racist, homophobic, anti-semitic, islamaphobic, anti-christian, whatever, means nothing. Just because they spout their shite doesn't mean I have to listen to it does it? (Personally, I turn off the Conservative Party Political Broadcast so I don't have to listen to their brand of hatred!) Doesn't matter what you say or what you ban, there will ALWAYS be people who listen, believe, follow and support such hatred. When someone is openly full of such rubbish you can use reasoned argument to counter their hatred, if they don't/won't listen then banning their opinions won't make them change their minds, it only strengthens that opinion and makes them feel hate even more.
Ban everything or ban nothing, those are your only choices. | |||
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"The pm says he will fight to keep the right to offend. but then says he will stamp out anti semitic speech. So free speech, except against Jews! " How is antisemitism free speech? | |||
"Lol Daily Mail goes for this headline, pure class: David Cameron says Pope Francis is wrong to claim people who mock Islam should 'expect a punch'. ******************************************************************************** http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_antisemitism It will be this he is against, not actual freedom of speech against jews. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/4351672/French-cartoonist-Sine-on-trial-on-charges-of-anti-Semitism-over-Sarkozy-jibe.html " The pope quote was actually 'if my friend insulted my mother he should expect a punch' (good old Mail!). The Sine case is interesting as at the time Sarkozy's son was rumoured to be converting to Judaism in advance of marriage but the cartoon was withdrawn and Sine dismissed by the publisher (who went on to become head of France's state broadcaster). | |||
"The pm says he will fight to keep the right to offend. but then says he will stamp out anti semitic speech. So free speech, except against Jews! How is antisemitism free speech? " and while I think hes complete twat his point was made after the awful events in paris 2 weeks ago,so they do actually make sense,unless of course you want to attempt to stir up a mild bit of controversy on a swinging website on a boring monday morning | |||
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"A jew, a muslim, a catholic, a budhist, a sikh, a hindu, an atheist, an agnostic and a trekkie go into a pub.. " and have a great night. Multiculturalism - isn't it great? With apologies to Bernard Righton aka John Thompson | |||
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"A jew, a muslim, a catholic, a budhist, a sikh, a hindu, an atheist, an agnostic and a trekkie go into a pub.. and have a great night. Multiculturalism - isn't it great? With apologies to Bernard Righton aka John Thompson ". Yeah the one thing that unites them all is their dislike of atheists! | |||
"Any prejudice is wrong. LOVE one another. Simple. " | |||
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"The pm says he will fight to keep the right to offend. but then says he will stamp out anti semitic speech. So free speech, except against Jews! How is antisemitism free speech? and while I think hes complete twat his point was made after the awful events in paris 2 weeks ago,so they do actually make sense,unless of course you want to attempt to stir up a mild bit of controversy on a swinging website on a boring monday morning"It wasn't an attempt to stir anything. But thanks for that. | |||
"Lol Daily Mail goes for this headline, pure class: David Cameron says Pope Francis is wrong to claim people who mock Islam should 'expect a punch'. ******************************************************************************** http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_antisemitism It will be this he is against, not actual freedom of speech against jews. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/4351672/French-cartoonist-Sine-on-trial-on-charges-of-anti-Semitism-over-Sarkozy-jibe.html The pope quote was actually 'if my friend insulted my mother he should expect a punch' (good old Mail!). The Sine case is interesting as at the time Sarkozy's son was rumoured to be converting to Judaism in advance of marriage but the cartoon was withdrawn and Sine dismissed by the publisher (who went on to become head of France's state broadcaster)." I didn't click the link, refuse to look at the Daily Mail. Yeah that Sine article came up while i was looking for the wiki on anti-semitism. Found it interesting myself, not surte if what he committed was hate crime or racist though? | |||
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"A very great man once said.... No one is born hating another person because of the colour of his skin, or his background, or his religion. People must learn to hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love, for love comes more naturally to the human heart than hate. " South Pacific...Rogers and Hammerstein (yes he was Jewish). "You've Got to be Carefully Taught". Check the lyrics. | |||
" South Pacific...Rogers and Hammerstein (yes he was Jewish). "You've Got to be Carefully Taught". Check the lyrics." How true... | |||
"A very great man once said.... No one is born hating another person because of the colour of his skin, or his background, or his religion. People must learn to hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love, for love comes more naturally to the human heart than hate. South Pacific...Rogers and Hammerstein (yes he was Jewish). "You've Got to be Carefully Taught". Check the lyrics." . Lol it's a great musical! Seen it many times at amateur productions. | |||
"A very great man once said.... No one is born hating another person because of the colour of his skin, or his background, or his religion. People must learn to hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love, for love comes more naturally to the human heart than hate. Charlie Chaplin "Or not lol,reads similar to his speech in The Dictator I thought...nevermind | |||
"A very great man once said.... No one is born hating another person because of the colour of his skin, or his background, or his religion. People must learn to hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love, for love comes more naturally to the human heart than hate. Charlie Chaplin
Or not lol,reads similar to his speech in The Dictator I thought...nevermind ".No Rich men love giving speech's about how we can all live together, there's hundreds of them! | |||
"A jew, a muslim, a catholic, a budhist, a sikh, a hindu, an atheist, an agnostic and a trekkie go into a pub.. " How dare you ridicule Jedi Knights by leaving them out! | |||
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"A jew, a muslim, a catholic, a budhist, a sikh, a hindu, an atheist, an agnostic and a trekkie go into a pub.. and have a great night. Multiculturalism - isn't it great? With apologies to Bernard Righton aka John Thompson " | |||
"A jew, a muslim, a catholic, a budhist, a sikh, a hindu, an atheist, an agnostic and a trekkie go into a pub.. How dare you ridicule Jedi Knights by leaving them out!" Jedi Knights.. splitters.. oops wrong film.. fuck that's a religio satirical tome.. | |||
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"Everyone has the right to offend everyone. Loads of things offend me but I just put up with it. The law bans incitement to violence or a threat to violence. That is how it should be. Ideas and debate is free and it should be." Not entirely true. That mam who criticised israeli on tv had to resign. | |||
"The pm says he will fight to keep the right to offend. but then says he will stamp out anti semitic speech. So free speech, except against Jews! " Sounds good to me. | |||
"The pm says he will fight to keep the right to offend. but then says he will stamp out anti semitic speech. So free speech, except against Jews! " Phew, so I can still slag off Catholics?  | |||
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"The pm says he will fight to keep the right to offend. but then says he will stamp out anti semitic speech. So free speech, except against Jews! Phew, so I can still slag off Catholics? "Leave us Catholics alone or I will punch you in the face, the Pope says that's ok!!  | |||
"The pm says he will fight to keep the right to offend. but then says he will stamp out anti semitic speech. So free speech, except against Jews! Phew, so I can still slag off Catholics? "Nope, that's illegal too, in parts of the UK | |||
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