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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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its run its course ....addictive tv....but ffs its mind numbing now....nearly 10 yrs of big brother...what have we got...jade goody wannabes all over the place....why do we actors in high esteem ?....talent....so get back to plays sitcoms and tv films and get rid of this dross...you did say rant Thursday..yes ?  |
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"it will end when people stop watching. theres not enough to turn to...they are all aboard the gravy train  "
Yep! But as I said, all the time people watch, discuss and therefore make it viable in monetary terms is all the time the programme makers will assume its what people want and keep making it.
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By (user no longer on site)
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There are still plenty of other genres around, reality is a small part of the schedule. Watch what you want, ignore what you don't like. It isn't as though there is a shortage of channels to provide for everyone! |
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"its run its course ....addictive tv....but ffs its mind numbing now....nearly 10 yrs of big brother...what have we got...jade goody wannabes all over the place....why do we actors in high esteem ?....talent....so get back to plays sitcoms and tv films and get rid of this dross...you did say rant Thursday..yes ? "
Nearly 15 years actually not 10 |
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"There are still plenty of other genres around, reality is a small part of the schedule. Watch what you want, ignore what you don't like. It isn't as though there is a shortage of channels to provide for everyone!"
So many channels all show very similar pap: endless programmes and series on cooking, house-buying, display of fatties,as well as the relentless slurry of reality TV.
There is the occasional decent programme or series, but, as Amis senior put it, ..more is less. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Shit actually no! I just googled it and it was in 2000! I know I was sitting in my business studies class and me and my friend were talking about that Craig dude! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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yes these progs rule my life....mrs plans viewing ....relentless dross....ive painted 2 rooms this week....fall into bed just in time for bb bots or whatever the fuck its called its non stop....just after weeks of im a celebrity.....GET ME THE FUCK OUTA HERE.......NOW !!!!  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"There are still plenty of other genres around, reality is a small part of the schedule. Watch what you want, ignore what you don't like. It isn't as though there is a shortage of channels to provide for everyone!
So many channels all show very similar pap: endless programmes and series on cooking, house-buying, display of fatties,as well as the relentless slurry of reality TV.
There is the occasional decent programme or series, but, as Amis senior put it, ..more is less."
thing is there is plenty of decent stuff out there, BBC, Sky, ITV, C4 and even C5 all pump out some pretty decent original content. Look at this week, Broadchurch on ITV, Suspects on C5, Cyberbully tonight on C4.....etc |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I am fed up with repeats on the tv ........... B/B LIVE is fun as you just don't know .. so I cant see it stopping .. there is a place on tv for it and others like it as repeats of other things are just drive me nuts . |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"fancy the cyberbully....looks great  "
Won't appeal to everyone, same as reality, but it an original drama, produced here in the UK and will no doubt attract an audience. My point is there is plenty of new stuff out there. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I do not watch any programs that refuse to employ scriptwriters and actors. Television is for the professionals, doing them out of a job is as bad as closing the mines because miners get paid too much and have too much safety. 
Switch off the Television and they will change the programming.  |
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"its run its course ....addictive tv....but ffs its mind numbing now....nearly 10 yrs of big brother...what have we got...jade goody wannabes all over the place....why do we actors in high esteem ?....talent....so get back to plays sitcoms and tv films and get rid of this dross...you did say rant Thursday..yes ? "
You know they want to be like Jade Goody? |
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By *ugby 123Couple
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"There are still plenty of other genres around, reality is a small part of the schedule. Watch what you want, ignore what you don't like. It isn't as though there is a shortage of channels to provide for everyone!"
I have to admit I don't mind an odd bit of reality TV but there is so much of it on the telly we are being swamped by it...so turning over might just find more of it |
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"its run its course ....addictive tv....but ffs its mind numbing now....nearly 10 yrs of big brother...what have we got...jade goody wannabes all over the place....why do we actors in high esteem ?....talent....so get back to plays sitcoms and tv films and get rid of this dross...you did say rant Thursday..yes ?
You know they want to be like Jade Goody?"
The poor woman is dead, I doubt anybody wants to be like her. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"There are still plenty of other genres around, reality is a small part of the schedule. Watch what you want, ignore what you don't like. It isn't as though there is a shortage of channels to provide for everyone!
I have to admit I don't mind an odd bit of reality TV but there is so much of it on the telly we are being swamped by it...so turning over might just find more of it "
That is where iplayer, planner, on demand etc are your friends  |
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By *ugby 123Couple
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"its run its course ....addictive tv....but ffs its mind numbing now....nearly 10 yrs of big brother...what have we got...jade goody wannabes all over the place....why do we actors in high esteem ?....talent....so get back to plays sitcoms and tv films and get rid of this dross...you did say rant Thursday..yes ?
You know they want to be like Jade Goody?
The poor woman is dead, I doubt anybody wants to be like her."
I don't think he meant they want to be dead, but then I think you both must know that |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"To the OP...I am guessing it is cheap TV to make so why there is so much of it "
It isn't that cheap to produce and is difficult to sell outside of the domestic market. Whereas something like Downton Abbey for example can be sold around the world. As with all things it is a balance to cater for a broad audience. |
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By *ugby 123Couple
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"There are still plenty of other genres around, reality is a small part of the schedule. Watch what you want, ignore what you don't like. It isn't as though there is a shortage of channels to provide for everyone!
I have to admit I don't mind an odd bit of reality TV but there is so much of it on the telly we are being swamped by it...so turning over might just find more of it
That is where iplayer, planner, on demand etc are your friends "
I know, I was just answering that there is a hell of a lot of it...not that we cant find anything to watch |
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"its run its course ....addictive tv....but ffs its mind numbing now....nearly 10 yrs of big brother...what have we got...jade goody wannabes all over the place....why do we actors in high esteem ?....talent....so get back to plays sitcoms and tv films and get rid of this dross...you did say rant Thursday..yes ?
You know they want to be like Jade Goody?
The poor woman is dead, I doubt anybody wants to be like her.
I don't think he meant they want to be dead, but then I think you both must know that"
Both?
Hang on, I didnt suggest that, I just asked the OP a simple question.
Just because people sign up for 'Reality Tv' dosent mean they want to be like Jade, Jordon, Joey, or anyone else who has ever been on tv.
They probably do it due to money. |
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By *ugby 123Couple
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"To the OP...I am guessing it is cheap TV to make so why there is so much of it
It isn't that cheap to produce and is difficult to sell outside of the domestic market. Whereas something like Downton Abbey for example can be sold around the world. As with all things it is a balance to cater for a broad audience."
The concept can be sold and has been, just like normal programmes like Downton |
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"To the OP...I am guessing it is cheap TV to make so why there is so much of it
It isn't that cheap to produce and is difficult to sell outside of the domestic market. Whereas something like Downton Abbey for example can be sold around the world. As with all things it is a balance to cater for a broad audience.
The concept can be sold and has been, just like normal programmes like Downton "
Just about every country has an X factor and a 'got talent'.
Thats just two examples |
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"To the OP...I am guessing it is cheap TV to make so why there is so much of it
It isn't that cheap to produce and is difficult to sell outside of the domestic market. Whereas something like Downton Abbey for example can be sold around the world. As with all things it is a balance to cater for a broad audience.
The concept can be sold and has been, just like normal programmes like Downton "
Exactly, C5 doesn't own the BB concept so the only way it can make any money is from advertising revenue, and it won't do that well. What it will do is to help build an audience so that people stay with the channel. So last night for example they put their prime new drama Suspects on straight after CBB in order to leverage the audience. |
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By *ugby 123Couple
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Both?
Hang on, I didnt suggest that, I just asked the OP a simple question.
Just because people sign up for 'Reality Tv' dosent mean they want to be like Jade, Jordon, Joey, or anyone else who has ever been on tv.
They probably do it due to money."
One of you then.
Don't you think Jade goody did it for the money then? |
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By *ugby 123Couple
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"To the OP...I am guessing it is cheap TV to make so why there is so much of it
It isn't that cheap to produce and is difficult to sell outside of the domestic market. Whereas something like Downton Abbey for example can be sold around the world. As with all things it is a balance to cater for a broad audience.
The concept can be sold and has been, just like normal programmes like Downton
Exactly, C5 doesn't own the BB concept so the only way it can make any money is from advertising revenue, and it won't do that well. What it will do is to help build an audience so that people stay with the channel. So last night for example they put their prime new drama Suspects on straight after CBB in order to leverage the audience. "
I didn't mention BB...I said "The concept can be sold and has been" there are lots of reality shows |
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Both?
Hang on, I didnt suggest that, I just asked the OP a simple question.
Just because people sign up for 'Reality Tv' dosent mean they want to be like Jade, Jordon, Joey, or anyone else who has ever been on tv.
They probably do it due to money.
One of you then.
Don't you think Jade goody did it for the money then?"
Yes
and the famousity of it (for want of a better word).
You can go from being a 'who' to having your own show, or present stuff, a career I suppose. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"To the OP...I am guessing it is cheap TV to make so why there is so much of it
It isn't that cheap to produce and is difficult to sell outside of the domestic market. Whereas something like Downton Abbey for example can be sold around the world. As with all things it is a balance to cater for a broad audience.
The concept can be sold and has been, just like normal programmes like Downton
Exactly, C5 doesn't own the BB concept so the only way it can make any money is from advertising revenue, and it won't do that well. What it will do is to help build an audience so that people stay with the channel. So last night for example they put their prime new drama Suspects on straight after CBB in order to leverage the audience.
I didn't mention BB...I said "The concept can be sold and has been" there are lots of reality shows "
Most reality shows are owned by independent productions companies like Endemol and sold around the world. My point is that there will always be a market for this, it is expensive for channels to broadcast, but forms part of a schedule with some content that they own and can monetise (Broadchurch, Downton, etc etc) and some which they buy in at relatively high cost but drive large audiences and allow them to invest in better quality drama,comedy etc.
So in a long winded way, what I am trying to say (badly) is that yes there is reality, but it is a means to an end and I think the UK broadcasting/production industry does a great job creating loads of brilliant original content on a regular basis. |
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By *ugby 123Couple
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Both?
Hang on, I didnt suggest that, I just asked the OP a simple question.
Just because people sign up for 'Reality Tv' dosent mean they want to be like Jade, Jordon, Joey, or anyone else who has ever been on tv.
They probably do it due to money.
One of you then.
Don't you think Jade goody did it for the money then?
Yes
and the famousity of it (for want of a better word).
You can go from being a 'who' to having your own show, or present stuff, a career I suppose."
I am guessing after seeing how some of them including Jade make a profitable life for themselves out of being on a reality show that there are lots of them who hope to follow the same path. I think that's what the OP was getting at. |
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"To the OP...I am guessing it is cheap TV to make so why there is so much of it "
Exactly this, its cheap TV that gets people watching. I refuse to watch anything like it.
I want to be engaged and intrigued, I certainly don't want to watch what is fed for the lowest common denominator. If I want to watch people having drama I'll go and sit in wetherspoons on giro day |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"To the OP...I am guessing it is cheap TV to make so why there is so much of it
Exactly this, its cheap TV that gets people watching. I refuse to watch anything like it.
I want to be engaged and intrigued, I certainly don't want to watch what is fed for the lowest common denominator. If I want to watch people having drama I'll go and sit in wetherspoons on giro day"
Note to self - must contact C5 about new reality show.....Wetherspoons on Giro day.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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You don't have to watch any particular program on the TV. No viewers for a particular program = no more showing.
Just watch what you like, or commission your own programs
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By *ugby 123Couple
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"To the OP...I am guessing it is cheap TV to make so why there is so much of it
It isn't that cheap to produce and is difficult to sell outside of the domestic market. Whereas something like Downton Abbey for example can be sold around the world. As with all things it is a balance to cater for a broad audience.
The concept can be sold and has been, just like normal programmes like Downton
Exactly, C5 doesn't own the BB concept so the only way it can make any money is from advertising revenue, and it won't do that well. What it will do is to help build an audience so that people stay with the channel. So last night for example they put their prime new drama Suspects on straight after CBB in order to leverage the audience.
I didn't mention BB...I said "The concept can be sold and has been" there are lots of reality shows
Most reality shows are owned by independent productions companies like Endemol and sold around the world. My point is that there will always be a market for this, it is expensive for channels to broadcast, but forms part of a schedule with some content that they own and can monetise (Broadchurch, Downton, etc etc) and some which they buy in at relatively high cost but drive large audiences and allow them to invest in better quality drama,comedy etc.
So in a long winded way, what I am trying to say (badly) is that yes there is reality, but it is a means to an end and I think the UK broadcasting/production industry does a great job creating loads of brilliant original content on a regular basis. "
Sadly I don't think we see enough of it though. Don't get me wrong, I love the likes of Strictly etc but I love it when ITV and BBC have a run of dramas going on, although I think I must be the only person who couldn't get into Downton Abbey. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Biggest problem I have with it , it's not reality. It's contrived and staged . People are chosen because they'll play up to the cameras. How is that realistic ? The original concept was interesting . A group of people thrown together and observed . Now it's become it's own parody . The only one I think still has merit is i'm a celeb . Because it doesn't take itself in the least bit seriously. It knows it's stupid and silly . |
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"To the OP...I am guessing it is cheap TV to make so why there is so much of it
It isn't that cheap to produce and is difficult to sell outside of the domestic market. Whereas something like Downton Abbey for example can be sold around the world. As with all things it is a balance to cater for a broad audience.
The concept can be sold and has been, just like normal programmes like Downton
Exactly, C5 doesn't own the BB concept so the only way it can make any money is from advertising revenue, and it won't do that well. What it will do is to help build an audience so that people stay with the channel. So last night for example they put their prime new drama Suspects on straight after CBB in order to leverage the audience.
I didn't mention BB...I said "The concept can be sold and has been" there are lots of reality shows
Most reality shows are owned by independent productions companies like Endemol and sold around the world. My point is that there will always be a market for this, it is expensive for channels to broadcast, but forms part of a schedule with some content that they own and can monetise (Broadchurch, Downton, etc etc) and some which they buy in at relatively high cost but drive large audiences and allow them to invest in better quality drama,comedy etc.
So in a long winded way, what I am trying to say (badly) is that yes there is reality, but it is a means to an end and I think the UK broadcasting/production industry does a great job creating loads of brilliant original content on a regular basis.
Sadly I don't think we see enough of it though. Don't get me wrong, I love the likes of Strictly etc but I love it when ITV and BBC have a run of dramas going on, although I think I must be the only person who couldn't get into Downton Abbey."
I'm not a fan or Downton either, but we have had loads of good stuff in recent years, Spooks, Call the Midwife, Broadchurch, Endeavour, Silk, Law & Order, Misfits - all original content, all aimed at slightly different audiences, all critically acclaimed and exported around the world. We can always ask for more, but I think we output quite a lot of really good stuff. |
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Both?
Hang on, I didnt suggest that, I just asked the OP a simple question.
Just because people sign up for 'Reality Tv' dosent mean they want to be like Jade, Jordon, Joey, or anyone else who has ever been on tv.
They probably do it due to money.
One of you then.
Don't you think Jade goody did it for the money then?
Yes
and the famousity of it (for want of a better word).
You can go from being a 'who' to having your own show, or present stuff, a career I suppose.
I am guessing after seeing how some of them including Jade make a profitable life for themselves out of being on a reality show that there are lots of them who hope to follow the same path. I think that's what the OP was getting at."
If thats the case I think its a fair comment to make, but perhaps it could of been worded better/maybe I was the only one confused. |
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"its run its course ....addictive tv....but ffs its mind numbing now....nearly 10 yrs of big brother...what have we got...jade goody wannabes all over the place....why do we actors in high esteem ?....talent....so get back to plays sitcoms and tv films and get rid of this dross...you did say rant Thursday..yes ?
You know they want to be like Jade Goody?
The poor woman is dead, I doubt anybody wants to be like her.
I don't think he meant they want to be dead, but then I think you both must know that"
T'was only me who said about her being dead. |
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By *ugby 123Couple
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"its run its course ....addictive tv....but ffs its mind numbing now....nearly 10 yrs of big brother...what have we got...jade goody wannabes all over the place....why do we actors in high esteem ?....talent....so get back to plays sitcoms and tv films and get rid of this dross...you did say rant Thursday..yes ?
You know they want to be like Jade Goody?
The poor woman is dead, I doubt anybody wants to be like her.
I don't think he meant they want to be dead, but then I think you both must know that
T'was only me who said about her being dead. "
I know.
It has been explained by the other user that I assumed wrong further up ^^ |
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According to a young lady I met yesterday in the course of my work all TV is reality. Apparently Cat and Alfie Moon really do live on Albert Square in Walford and King Kong is the largest animal on earth! |
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"According to a young lady I met yesterday in the course of my work all TV is reality. Apparently Cat and Alfie Moon really do live on Albert Square in Walford and King Kong is the largest animal on earth! "
I do know someone who was genuinely shocked to discover that a Pushmepullyou wasn't a real animal. |
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"According to a young lady I met yesterday in the course of my work all TV is reality. Apparently Cat and Alfie Moon really do live on Albert Square in Walford and King Kong is the largest animal on earth!
I do know someone who was genuinely shocked to discover that a Pushmepullyou wasn't a real animal. "
Shocking!
So there isn't really a guy who can talk to the animals then? |
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"According to a young lady I met yesterday in the course of my work all TV is reality. Apparently Cat and Alfie Moon really do live on Albert Square in Walford and King Kong is the largest animal on earth!
I do know someone who was genuinely shocked to discover that a Pushmepullyou wasn't a real animal. "
It is in fact a double ended dildo also known as a Dr Dolittle. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Big brother has been going longer than 10 years.
Channel 4 took too long to axe it itand I have no idea what Channel 5 were thinking when they picked it up.
It's just crap! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Big brother has been going longer than 10 years.
Channel 4 took too long to axe it itand I have no idea what Channel 5 were thinking when they picked it up.
It's just crap!"
In your opinion!
They obviously get the viewing figures and advertising revenue to justify it continuing |
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