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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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You never look back apparently lol, So im toying with the idea of a Macbook ( for music production and graphics etc )
Im planning to dual boot it with Win 8.1 as well for best of both worlds, just wondered what the advantages are of Mac OS over windows ??
Im very very PC literate but not a huge amount of experience with Mac OS so any advice greatly received   |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I know little about what you want your mac to do , but we have had macs in this house for years and are very happy with them. We've never had a virus and they've always done what we asked them to do. We will never go down the windows route. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I know little about what you want your mac to do , but we have had macs in this house for years and are very happy with them. We've never had a virus and they've always done what we asked them to do. We will never go down the windows route. "
My friend is exactly the same and persuaded his housemate to get one, neither would go back to windows. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Do you plan to allow windows machines to access it across a network? If so drop a virus scanner on the mac. We got plagued with a few virus when we wanted to share music across all the machines in the house. Other than that its not that much different. |
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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago
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I have a MacBook and its great in terms of reliability etc . For me the main pain is inter-connectivity with work stuff where everything is Windows so its a case of having to remember to save and send docs in the right format.
Office for Mac is mainly ok but Powerpoint for Mac is a pain in the arse. All the slides etc look great at this end but when someone opens them at the other end they are all over the place.
Would probably stay with Mac though. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I bought a Mac, granted, purely on aesthetics!!
However my other half hates it with a passion I rarely see for much else.
His computer knowledge has all seemed from working with windows, his degree and masters was done on computers using windows and the Mac is just way too counter intuitive for him to get his poor little nerdy head round although for photoshop and design programmes he seems to get over the phobia
Personally I love it |
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Houses for courses.
I've always used Windows PC's, find OS-X completely counter-intuitive, have never had a virus and have just built a new PC that specification wise will blow any Mac out of the water (at a similar price point of £1100). A Mac of the same spec would have been closer to £2500.
On the other hand...damn they look pretty! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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we have an iMac after having windows for many many yrs and many many problems.had the imac 3 yrs and not one single problem with it .they do cost more but they are super reliable so no repair bills |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Once you go Mac....you'll be taking it back!
Got one of their fancy laptops
Lasted a grand total of 5 boots before it was fucked!...dead HD
NEVER had that before with pcs and laptops
Was not Impressed to say the least
However their customer service was brilliant and it was replaced...works ok now |
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Unless you're going to use Macs for dedicated Mac only software (like Final Cut) then they're great.
If you're only going to use it for internet browsing and/or documents and the occasional game then you're paying too much for it because you could get a Windows laptop/PC for under half the price.
Macs are pretty to look at, but that's about it.
Apple are very good at repackaging what's already on the market (or been on the market) and saying it's amazing now that it's in an Apple device.
With all that said, I can't fault iPads - other than the overinflated price!
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I know little about what you want your mac to do , but we have had macs in this house for years and are very happy with them. We've never had a virus and they've always done what we asked them to do. We will never go down the windows route. "
This for me too... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Macs are the greeter machine , I have a Mac book pro and and Mac ,,, but be warned running widowson them are t ideal and often have trouble with windows operating on apple ,, so I'd suggest not running windows on them |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Macs are great but be careful
Mines recently gone down with a graphics cards issue, something Apple know about but are unwilling to repair, re_iew the model your after usually the ones with the Nvidia card. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Macs are the greeter machine , I have a Mac book pro and and Mac ,,, but be warned running widowson them are t ideal and often have trouble with windows operating on apple ,, so I'd suggest not running windows on them "
I find it defeats the object putting Windows on a Mac it's like putting a Lada engine in a bmw |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Got a few macs but my main one is a dual quad core and 32 gig ram, 4 SSD drives... Runs like a dream and boots in seconds
Best bet is not to dual boot windows but if needed run it in fusions or parallels but disable outside access for it so it can't cause problems ie viruses n such
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By *eKoopleCouple
over a year ago
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Being a creative professional, my team and I use Mac. This I'll say is based on inherited usage from our Uni days. We also use Windows for running our admin solutions. Therefore, I have no argument with the old adage of Mac v Windows. To be honest, since Mr. Jobs passed, we are starting to feel Mac has become an OS for the consumer and not the pros. -Mr. |
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I'm using both Mac and PC at work but in all honesty, I always favour the PC.
There are just too many quirks which annoy me with the Mac. Nothing major, just little things like not having a two button mouse as standard, re-arranging the keyboard and other minor irritations.
Personally, I would (and did) just buy a "Really Good" PC.... i7 with loads of RAM and a SSD to boot from. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Houses for courses.
I've always used Windows PC's, find OS-X completely counter-intuitive, have never had a virus and have just built a new PC that specification wise will blow any Mac out of the water (at a similar price point of £1100). A Mac of the same spec would have been closer to £2500.
On the other hand...damn they look pretty!"
But you spent all that money and then went and put windows on it, why not hachintosh it |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Are there any mac gurus on here ? I got the macbook , put a new 1tb hd in and cant install mavericks ?? Keep getting the screen with folder and question mark ?
Have tried the option key press , command r, and hold c but to no avail ? Am pretty good with computers but this is starting to do my head in lol ? |
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if you are practically minded then build yourself a hackintosh for a third of the price of a mac ..... plenty of info on how to go about this online .... the operating system is the stable part of a mac not the hard ware ..... most of the hardware is cheap crap same as in PCs .... mac as a company are only interested in looking cool and this is reflected in the questions they ask when they inter_iew you for a job. basically a mac is like a kia rebadged as ferrari but you get the stig to drive you around in it |
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"Houses for courses.
I've always used Windows PC's, find OS-X completely counter-intuitive, have never had a virus and have just built a new PC that specification wise will blow any Mac out of the water (at a similar price point of £1100). A Mac of the same spec would have been closer to £2500.
On the other hand...damn they look pretty!
But you spent all that money and then went and put windows on it, why not hachintosh it"
Because, as I said, I find OS-X completely counter-intuitive! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Learning curve for me at the moment, after much homework etc am about to try and re install the OS, not gonna bother dual booting for now just want to get the thing working lol !! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Are there any mac gurus on here ? I got the macbook , put a new 1tb hd in and cant install mavericks ?? Keep getting the screen with folder and question mark ?
Have tried the option key press , command r, and hold c but to no avail ? Am pretty good with computers but this is starting to do my head in lol ? "
Have you not got an original install disk and then upgrade to Mavericks, I did exactly the same as you |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Are there any mac gurus on here ? I got the macbook , put a new 1tb hd in and cant install mavericks ?? Keep getting the screen with folder and question mark ?
Have tried the option key press , command r, and hold c but to no avail ? Am pretty good with computers but this is starting to do my head in lol ?
Have you not got an original install disk and then upgrade to Mavericks, I did exactly the same as you"
Just tried installing original but wont work  Getting really pissed of with it now lol |
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By *icentiousCouple
over a year ago
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"Are there any mac gurus on here ? I got the macbook , put a new 1tb hd in and cant install mavericks ?? Keep getting the screen with folder and question mark ?
Have tried the option key press , command r, and hold c but to no avail ? Am pretty good with computers but this is starting to do my head in lol ?
Have you not got an original install disk and then upgrade to Mavericks, I did exactly the same as you
Just tried installing original but wont work Getting really pissed of with it now lol "
I haven't had this problem, however someone I know found they couldn't load a program if the program already existed. They had to remove the original to reload. Just a thought. |
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Once you go Mac watch the money drain from your wallet... There's two words for why Apple had the largest cash reserve in the world Marketing / Gullible customers. Buy this it will make you feel better than everyone else...
I use both as well as iPhone & Android and whilst some functions might be slightly easier on Apple it ain't worth paying the admission price IMOH |
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By *icentiousCouple
over a year ago
Up on them there hills |
"Once you go Mac watch the money drain from your wallet... There's two words for why Apple had the largest cash reserve in the world Marketing / Gullible customers. Buy this it will make you feel better than everyone else...
I use both as well as iPhone & Android and whilst some functions might be slightly easier on Apple it ain't worth paying the admission price IMOH "
Odd, when I researched the change to Apple, I didn't see this in there technical spec' or marketing.
Drat, I thought I had done a thorough job. |
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"Are there any mac gurus on here ? I got the macbook , put a new 1tb hd in and cant install mavericks ?? Keep getting the screen with folder and question mark ?
Have tried the option key press , command r, and hold c but to no avail ? Am pretty good with computers but this is starting to do my head in lol ?
Have you not got an original install disk and then upgrade to Mavericks, I did exactly the same as you
Just tried installing original but wont work Getting really pissed of with it now lol "
As the saying goes, the great thing about Apple products is 'they just work' |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Are there any mac gurus on here ? I got the macbook , put a new 1tb hd in and cant install mavericks ?? Keep getting the screen with folder and question mark ?
Have tried the option key press , command r, and hold c but to no avail ? Am pretty good with computers but this is starting to do my head in lol ?
Have you not got an original install disk and then upgrade to Mavericks, I did exactly the same as you
Just tried installing original but wont work Getting really pissed of with it now lol
As the saying goes, the great thing about Apple products is 'they just work'"
Or in my case "just didn't" and required a massive round trip to the Apple store to return the thing costing time and money |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Are there any mac gurus on here ? I got the macbook , put a new 1tb hd in and cant install mavericks ?? Keep getting the screen with folder and question mark ?
Have tried the option key press , command r, and hold c but to no avail ? Am pretty good with computers but this is starting to do my head in lol ?
Have you not got an original install disk and then upgrade to Mavericks, I did exactly the same as you
Just tried installing original but wont work Getting really pissed of with it now lol "
Have you gone into diskmanager and partitioned/formatted the disk? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Cant get to disk utility ?? And yes just replaced the other drive with a 1TB drive formatted in exfat ?
I cant format the drive for mac from a windows pc for some reason ? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Cant get to disk utility ?? And yes just replaced the other drive with a 1TB drive formatted in exfat ?
I cant format the drive for mac from a windows pc for some reason ? "
You wont be able to, are you booting from the cd/usb stick? |
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"Cant get to disk utility ?? And yes just replaced the other drive with a 1TB drive formatted in exfat ?
I cant format the drive for mac from a windows pc for some reason ? "
When you switch on the MacBook what are you seeing on the screen?
Did the old HD work ok?
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I have a usb and a dvd to boot from, i tried another hard drive which i formatted and the most bizarre thing i put it in macbook and it showed up as a windows 8 drive and tried to load win 8 lol ??
That aside if i put the usb in i get the efi boot option but then it just freezes up, if i put the dvd in it trys to load for 30 secs or so then ejects the disc ?? |
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Depending on how old the MacBook is you may be able to do an Internet Recovery.
As long as you have wifi available - start the MacBook and hold down Command and R.
If available it will ask you to select a wifi connection (and allow you to enter your wifi password).
Try this and see what happens...?
HTH |
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By *onyneMan
over a year ago
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For music production [especially Logic] there is nothing better...Totally tremendous and can do stuff well into professional music standard.
I can't recommend the mc highly enough...drop me a line if you want to chat about the software [though I imagine you have a good idea already].
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Depending on how old the MacBook is you may be able to do an Internet Recovery.
As long as you have wifi available - start the MacBook and hold down Command and R.
If available it will ask you to select a wifi connection (and allow you to enter your wifi password).
Try this and see what happens...?
HTH"
Tried that and no recovery options |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I use Mac and would help if I could - I just havent understood a word since the first few posts where it says that they look nice....  "
Lol aww cheers Jez x |
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"Depending on how old the MacBook is you may be able to do an Internet Recovery.
As long as you have wifi available - start the MacBook and hold down Command and R.
If available it will ask you to select a wifi connection (and allow you to enter your wifi password).
Try this and see what happens...?
HTH
Tried that and no recovery options "
then i think my best guess for this situation is to find someone who has an operating Mac so you can make a rescue disc (or usb stick) using the tools that are on their operating system.
It may even be possible (if you can put the new 1TB HDD in to some kind of USB caddy) you can then format the HDD directly from the working Mac (HSF+ format). and then be able to burn a download of Yosemite directly on to the HDD.
When you then put the HDD in to your MacBook the system should boot...
Not an immediate solution I know, but something else to think about..
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Depending on how old the MacBook is you may be able to do an Internet Recovery.
As long as you have wifi available - start the MacBook and hold down Command and R.
If available it will ask you to select a wifi connection (and allow you to enter your wifi password).
Try this and see what happens...?
HTH
Tried that and no recovery options
then i think my best guess for this situation is to find someone who has an operating Mac so you can make a rescue disc (or usb stick) using the tools that are on their operating system.
It may even be possible (if you can put the new 1TB HDD in to some kind of USB caddy) you can then format the HDD directly from the working Mac (HSF+ format). and then be able to burn a download of Yosemite directly on to the HDD.
When you then put the HDD in to your MacBook the system should boot...
Not an immediate solution I know, but something else to think about..
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Yeh cool cheers thanks for advice |
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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago
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I dont want to sound thick but....if youve only just bought it why aren't you letting the geeks (or whatever trendy name they call themselves) in the Apple shop do it for you? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I dont want to sound thick but....if youve only just bought it why aren't you letting the geeks (or whatever trendy name they call themselves) in the Apple shop do it for you?"
Bought it second hand |
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"Are there any mac gurus on here ? I got the macbook , put a new 1tb hd in and cant install mavericks ?? Keep getting the screen with folder and question mark ?
Have tried the option key press , command r, and hold c but to no avail ? Am pretty good with computers but this is starting to do my head in lol ? "
Watch this video, makes changing hard drives over easy as pie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hndx9AJRz5M |
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As for "Once you go Mac" it's pretty much spot on.
I use Mac's and PC's and much prefer my Mac's.
Granted the outlay at first is costly but if you upgrade every 3 years they sort of make sense as you end up getting a fair bit back on resell value and from there for the cost of a basic PC you can have a brand new Mac, where a the resell value of a 3 year old windows PC is not worth that much! |
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the technique in the youtube video will not work in this case, as it is based on the user already having OSX installed on a working mac. Also in the video it mentions the new HDD needs to already be pre-formatted to MAC OS Extended (Journaled) - which for these guys is not the case, as it is a brand new HDD. And you can only format to MAC OS Extended from an operating Mac system.
However, if it helps, I have made a bootable Yosemite Installer drive for you. As I understand it, all you need to do is put the stick in your mac usb port, turn the mac on while holding down the Option key and then select the USB drive with the installer on.
From there you can format the new HDD correctly, and put a fresh installation of OS Yosemite on.
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"the technique in the youtube video will not work in this case, as it is based on the user already having OSX installed on a working mac. Also in the video it mentions the new HDD needs to already be pre-formatted to MAC OS Extended (Journaled) - which for these guys is not the case, as it is a brand new HDD. And you can only format to MAC OS Extended from an operating Mac system.
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I was just thinking that if he has the old hard to put that back in and use the new as a external hard drive and format it from there, then use the transfer program.
I've done it a couple of times with my old MBP's and never had a problem |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"the technique in the youtube video will not work in this case, as it is based on the user already having OSX installed on a working mac. Also in the video it mentions the new HDD needs to already be pre-formatted to MAC OS Extended (Journaled) - which for these guys is not the case, as it is a brand new HDD. And you can only format to MAC OS Extended from an operating Mac system.
However, if it helps, I have made a bootable Yosemite Installer drive for you. As I understand it, all you need to do is put the stick in your mac usb port, turn the mac on while holding down the Option key and then select the USB drive with the installer on.
From there you can format the new HDD correctly, and put a fresh installation of OS Yosemite on.
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Wow thats really cool of you many thanks !! Hopefully it will work and yes once i have an OS on i can format the 1TB and chuck that back in, or may just opt for an SSD instead lol !!
We are based in west brom if you wanna drop us a pm thats cool and thanks again |
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Stick with it - I used Macs on my last degree to run Final cut, Logic and Pro Tools. There's a reason that practically every audio/Film/TV studio in the world uses Macs. The O/S, being Unix based is far superior to Windoze for real time compute intensive operations, and is much more stable/resilient. Most people these days by Mac just to be seen to be cool. Frankly, for document creation, admin and interweb, the Windoze user interface is far better and the platform is better supported and patronised by software authors.
Horses for courses, I use both |
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