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Male to Female ratio but why?
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" How many of these !m extra women over the age of 70? Some may even be spinsters. Could be a niche market for you. " Well I never looked into it in that much depth but if you discount that men generally die younger than women then the number would be roughly equal. It still doesn't explain the overbalanced male profiles on dating websites. | |||
"What good is a million men if none of them are your type? Guys think women have it easy on here but I'll tell you now that logging in daily and seeing 80 odd new messages off guys that aren't your type is just as frustrating as not getting any messages at all. " How true  | |||
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"What good is a million men if none of them are your type? Guys think women have it easy on here but I'll tell you now that logging in daily and seeing 80 odd new messages off guys that aren't your type is just as frustrating as not getting any messages at all. " I am happy with 1 message if lucky aday  | |||
"What good is a million men if none of them are your type? Guys think women have it easy on here but I'll tell you now that logging in daily and seeing 80 odd new messages off guys that aren't your type is just as frustrating as not getting any messages at all. " So do you think the volume of desperate men makes women stay away? | |||
"What good is a million men if none of them are your type? Guys think women have it easy on here but I'll tell you now that logging in daily and seeing 80 odd new messages off guys that aren't your type is just as frustrating as not getting any messages at all. " Amen to that!! | |||
"It's a misconception. From wikipedia "given dating site, the sex ratio is commonly unbalanced. A website may have 2 women for every man, but they may be in the 35+ range, while the men are generally under 35. Unfortunately, little is known about the sex ratio controlled for age. eHarmony's membership is about 58% female and 42% male, whereas the ratio at Match.com is about the reverse of that." This website is not typical. " Interesting I suppose that says something about the mindset of us guys! | |||
"Because men find it hard in real life to get sex so thinks that by joining a sex site, the women will fall infront of their legs, whilst women got no problem in real life to get a fuck, that's why really lol "Think you've hit it on the head! | |||
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"Because men find it hard in real life to get sex so thinks that by joining a sex site, the women will fall infront of their legs, whilst women got no problem in real life to get a fuck, that's why really lol "Think you have a point there shag. But the OP also asks two questions.... To which I would offer yes to both as far as this site (and probably others) are concerned. Yes. Way to many cheating married men posing as single....but often easily Sussed out by ladies "fakedar " Yes.... In the general public many more women are happy to stay single and are less "needy" than men. (Maybe also left with the children if separated/divorced and so have other fulfilment in their lives) | |||
"I imagine many of the extra women are over 70, you seriously see a lot more women then men of that age. I genuinely believe that women do find it easier to live on their own, especially as they often have care of the children. Many men I know (I don't mean all by any means) just seem to be unable to be on their own. I guess there are women who are the same, but in my social circle the females are happy being single . " I blame the quality of sex toys for females as the demise of the man hehe  | |||
"What good is a million men if none of them are your type? Guys think women have it easy on here but I'll tell you now that logging in daily and seeing 80 odd new messages off guys that aren't your type is just as frustrating as not getting any messages at all. So do you think the volume of desperate men makes women stay away?" I just think more men know about this place than women do, you've probably got your armed forces people that will tell everyone about it, guys are more likely to talk about sites like this with their friends so word spreads. Although some of my friends know I'm on here it's not really the sort of thing I'd discuss. Casual sex and fucking is more wahey we're the lads sort of thing! What would help is if guys realised that they'll do as well in here as they do in the real world, if they go to a nightclub and they get attention off women then chances are they'll be noticed here too. The women on here are looking for a fantasy type guy so they'll be selective and hold out for a particular type of guy. If they wanted something more meaningful then the looks and aesthetics of a man wouldn't be as important, they'd be attracted to humour and personality for example. But women are here for an experience and those experiences usually involve a big dicked Adonis. | |||
"Because men find it hard in real life to get sex so thinks that by joining a sex site, the women will fall infront of their legs, whilst women got no problem in real life to get a fuck, that's why really lol
Think you have a point there shag. But the OP also asks two questions.... To which I would offer yes to both as far as this site (and probably others) are concerned.
Yes. Way to many cheating married men posing as single....but often easily Sussed out by ladies "fakedar "
Yes.... In the general public many more women are happy to stay single and are less "needy" than men. (Maybe also left with the children if separated/divorced and so have other fulfilment in their lives)"Thanks and yes your right there too, about married men posting as singles | |||
"What good is a million men if none of them are your type? Guys think women have it easy on here but I'll tell you now that logging in daily and seeing 80 odd new messages off guys that aren't your type is just as frustrating as not getting any messages at all. I am happy with 1 message if lucky aday "
Ok, i'll behave now
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"What good is a million men if none of them are your type? Guys think women have it easy on here but I'll tell you now that logging in daily and seeing 80 odd new messages off guys that aren't your type is just as frustrating as not getting any messages at all. " | |||
"I imagine many of the extra women are over 70, you seriously see a lot more women then men of that age. I genuinely believe that women do find it easier to live on their own, especially as they often have care of the children. Many men I know (I don't mean all by any means) just seem to be unable to be on their own. I guess there are women who are the same, but in my social circle the females are happy being single . " Provided the male is hammered for the bill? | |||
"I imagine many of the extra women are over 70, you seriously see a lot more women then men of that age. I genuinely believe that women do find it easier to live on their own, especially as they often have care of the children. Many men I know (I don't mean all by any means) just seem to be unable to be on their own. I guess there are women who are the same, but in my social circle the females are happy being single . Provided the male is hammered for the bill? " How quaint and old fashioned. | |||
"Because men find it hard in real life to get sex so thinks that by joining a sex site, the women will fall infront of their legs, whilst women got no problem in real life to get a fuck, that's why really lol " | |||
"What good is a million men if none of them are your type? Guys think women have it easy on here but I'll tell you now that logging in daily and seeing 80 odd new messages off guys that aren't your type is just as frustrating as not getting any messages at all. " | |||
"I imagine many of the extra women are over 70, you seriously see a lot more women then men of that age. I genuinely believe that women do find it easier to live on their own, especially as they often have care of the children. Many men I know (I don't mean all by any means) just seem to be unable to be on their own. I guess there are women who are the same, but in my social circle the females are happy being single . I blame the quality of sex toys for females as the demise of the man hehe "Any man whose sex technique is bested by a buzzing piece of plastic doesn't deserve to get laid. | |||
"I blame the quality of sex toys for females as the demise of the man hehe "I don't know that, before discovering sex toys, I wasn't interested in sex at all. | |||
"I imagine many of the extra women are over 70, you seriously see a lot more women then men of that age. I genuinely believe that women do find it easier to live on their own, especially as they often have care of the children. Many men I know (I don't mean all by any means) just seem to be unable to be on their own. I guess there are women who are the same, but in my social circle the females are happy being single . I blame the quality of sex toys for females as the demise of the man hehe
Any man whose sex technique is bested by a buzzing piece of plastic doesn't deserve to get laid."Haha ok if you say so! | |||
"I imagine many of the extra women are over 70, you seriously see a lot more women then men of that age. I genuinely believe that women do find it easier to live on their own, especially as they often have care of the children. Many men I know (I don't mean all by any means) just seem to be unable to be on their own. I guess there are women who are the same, but in my social circle the females are happy being single . I blame the quality of sex toys for females as the demise of the man hehe
Any man whose sex technique is bested by a buzzing piece of plastic doesn't deserve to get laid."No man can maintain 5-6,000 rpm  | |||
"I imagine many of the extra women are over 70, you seriously see a lot more women then men of that age. I genuinely believe that women do find it easier to live on their own, especially as they often have care of the children. Many men I know (I don't mean all by any means) just seem to be unable to be on their own. I guess there are women who are the same, but in my social circle the females are happy being single . I blame the quality of sex toys for females as the demise of the man hehe
Any man whose sex technique is bested by a buzzing piece of plastic doesn't deserve to get laid.
No man can maintain 5-6,000 rpm "A sensual technique behind a good cock and he doesn't have to. | |||
"I imagine many of the extra women are over 70, you seriously see a lot more women then men of that age. I genuinely believe that women do find it easier to live on their own, especially as they often have care of the children. Many men I know (I don't mean all by any means) just seem to be unable to be on their own. I guess there are women who are the same, but in my social circle the females are happy being single . Provided the male is hammered for the bill? " Yep I'm spending my £11.52 a week wisely . That'll buy - oh wait I think it costs more to feed a pet for a week. | |||
"I imagine many of the extra women are over 70, you seriously see a lot more women then men of that age. I genuinely believe that women do find it easier to live on their own, especially as they often have care of the children. Many men I know (I don't mean all by any means) just seem to be unable to be on their own. I guess there are women who are the same, but in my social circle the females are happy being single . I blame the quality of sex toys for females as the demise of the man hehe
Any man whose sex technique is bested by a buzzing piece of plastic doesn't deserve to get laid.
No man can maintain 5-6,000 rpm
A sensual technique behind a good cock and he doesn't have to."
This is perhaps where some of us go wrong ? I assumed interesting ladies would want more than a monotonous buzz ? | |||
"What good is a million men if none of them are your type? Guys think women have it easy on here but I'll tell you now that logging in daily and seeing 80 odd new messages off guys that aren't your type is just as frustrating as not getting any messages at all. " or more so!! | |||
"What good is a million men if none of them are your type? Guys think women have it easy on here but I'll tell you now that logging in daily and seeing 80 odd new messages off guys that aren't your type is just as frustrating as not getting any messages at all. or more so!!" Not really, you'd be complaining a lot louder if you had to purposely go looking yourself through 80 profiles who weren't your type, occasionally finding one that interests you, then never getting a reply because she interests a few thousand other single guys too - at least if there's 79 crap message in your box and one good one, if you reply to it you can count on the person on the other end actually reading it due to not being saturated with messages. | |||
"I imagine many of the extra women are over 70, you seriously see a lot more women then men of that age. I genuinely believe that women do find it easier to live on their own, especially as they often have care of the children. Many men I know (I don't mean all by any means) just seem to be unable to be on their own. I guess there are women who are the same, but in my social circle the females are happy being single . I blame the quality of sex toys for females as the demise of the man hehe
Any man whose sex technique is bested by a buzzing piece of plastic doesn't deserve to get laid." Sex toys are crap. Men are much more fun. | |||
"I imagine many of the extra women are over 70, you seriously see a lot more women then men of that age. I genuinely believe that women do find it easier to live on their own, especially as they often have care of the children. Many men I know (I don't mean all by any means) just seem to be unable to be on their own. I guess there are women who are the same, but in my social circle the females are happy being single . I blame the quality of sex toys for females as the demise of the man hehe
Any man whose sex technique is bested by a buzzing piece of plastic doesn't deserve to get laid.
Sex toys are crap. Men are much more fun."We agree on something x | |||
"I imagine many of the extra women are over 70, you seriously see a lot more women then men of that age. I genuinely believe that women do find it easier to live on their own, especially as they often have care of the children. Many men I know (I don't mean all by any means) just seem to be unable to be on their own. I guess there are women who are the same, but in my social circle the females are happy being single . I blame the quality of sex toys for females as the demise of the man hehe
Any man whose sex technique is bested by a buzzing piece of plastic doesn't deserve to get laid.
No man can maintain 5-6,000 rpm "I got my wife a vibrator for her birthday....;-) . . She's moaned ever sInce...   | |||
"What good is a million men if none of them are your type? Guys think women have it easy on here but I'll tell you now that logging in daily and seeing 80 odd new messages off guys that aren't your type is just as frustrating as not getting any messages at all. or more so!! Not really, you'd be complaining a lot louder if you had to purposely go looking yourself through 80 profiles who weren't your type, occasionally finding one that interests you, then never getting a reply because she interests a few thousand other single guys too - at least if there's 79 crap message in your box and one good one, if you reply to it you can count on the person on the other end actually reading it due to not being saturated with messages." *Claps*. | |||
"What good is a million men if none of them are your type? Guys think women have it easy on here but I'll tell you now that logging in daily and seeing 80 odd new messages off guys that aren't your type is just as frustrating as not getting any messages at all. or more so!! Not really, you'd be complaining a lot louder if you had to purposely go looking yourself through 80 profiles who weren't your type, occasionally finding one that interests you, then never getting a reply because she interests a few thousand other single guys too - at least if there's 79 crap message in your box and one good one, if you reply to it you can count on the person on the other end actually reading it due to not being saturated with messages. *Claps*." "It's so difficult, it's so hard, it rarely works". I will never understand this kind of mentality. Do you know how I know I wouldn't complain? I wouldn't put myself in a situation where I struggle. I make choices that are in my interest. Nothing will adapt to me, it's ridiculous expecting it to and whinging when it doesn't. | |||
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"What good is a million men if none of them are your type? Guys think women have it easy on here but I'll tell you now that logging in daily and seeing 80 odd new messages off guys that aren't your type is just as frustrating as not getting any messages at all. or more so!! Not really, you'd be complaining a lot louder if you had to purposely go looking yourself through 80 profiles who weren't your type, occasionally finding one that interests you, then never getting a reply because she interests a few thousand other single guys too - at least if there's 79 crap message in your box and one good one, if you reply to it you can count on the person on the other end actually reading it due to not being saturated with messages. *Claps*. "It's so difficult, it's so hard, it rarely works". I will never understand this kind of mentality. Do you know how I know I wouldn't complain? I wouldn't put myself in a situation where I struggle. I make choices that are in my interest. Nothing will adapt to me, it's ridiculous expecting it to and whinging when it doesn't. " It's not a mentality, it's a fact. It IS difficult, it IS hard, and it DOES rarely work. | |||
"What good is a million men if none of them are your type? Guys think women have it easy on here but I'll tell you now that logging in daily and seeing 80 odd new messages off guys that aren't your type is just as frustrating as not getting any messages at all. or more so!! Not really, you'd be complaining a lot louder if you had to purposely go looking yourself through 80 profiles who weren't your type, occasionally finding one that interests you, then never getting a reply because she interests a few thousand other single guys too - at least if there's 79 crap message in your box and one good one, if you reply to it you can count on the person on the other end actually reading it due to not being saturated with messages. *Claps*. "It's so difficult, it's so hard, it rarely works". I will never understand this kind of mentality. Do you know how I know I wouldn't complain? I wouldn't put myself in a situation where I struggle. I make choices that are in my interest. Nothing will adapt to me, it's ridiculous expecting it to and whinging when it doesn't. " So you're basically acknowledging that the site doesn't work particularly well for single males (well, maybe better for the ones who frequent swinging clubs, but those aren't the site), and isn't going to improve. Shame that, as these threads often betray that both males and females aren't particularly keen on the current set up - there's a big difference between 'whinging' and valid criticism. | |||
"I imagine many of the extra women are over 70, you seriously see a lot more women then men of that age. I genuinely believe that women do find it easier to live on their own, especially as they often have care of the children. Many men I know (I don't mean all by any means) just seem to be unable to be on their own. I guess there are women who are the same, but in my social circle the females are happy being single . Provided the male is hammered for the bill? " That's a very misogynist view, most peculiar | |||
"What good is a million men if none of them are your type? Guys think women have it easy on here but I'll tell you now that logging in daily and seeing 80 odd new messages off guys that aren't your type is just as frustrating as not getting any messages at all. or more so!! Not really, you'd be complaining a lot louder if you had to purposely go looking yourself through 80 profiles who weren't your type, occasionally finding one that interests you, then never getting a reply because she interests a few thousand other single guys too - at least if there's 79 crap message in your box and one good one, if you reply to it you can count on the person on the other end actually reading it due to not being saturated with messages. *Claps*. "It's so difficult, it's so hard, it rarely works". I will never understand this kind of mentality. Do you know how I know I wouldn't complain? I wouldn't put myself in a situation where I struggle. I make choices that are in my interest. Nothing will adapt to me, it's ridiculous expecting it to and whinging when it doesn't. So you're basically acknowledging that the site doesn't work particularly well for single males (well, maybe better for the ones who frequent swinging clubs, but those aren't the site), and isn't going to improve. Shame that, as these threads often betray that both males and females aren't particularly keen on the current set up - there's a big difference between 'whinging' and valid criticism." I'm saying I don't know why people allow it to be an issue. The site just doesn't work for undesirable members, it'll work fine for those that are. It's dumb to let something that is optional upset you. | |||
"I'm saying I don't know why people allow it to be an issue. The site just doesn't work for undesirable members, it'll work fine for those that are. It's dumb to let something that is optional upset you. " | |||
"Men and women are different in their attitude to sex. Men are more accepting of the concept of casual sex, this is a socital norm. This means that there are likely to be more guys on a casual sex website than girls " Maybe thirty/forty years ago!
These days? I disagree.
I do think women aren't as likely to expect the internet to be the sole provider of sexual encounters though. Many men it seems think that it is an easy solution to a need - which couldn't be further from the truth.
I suspect many men that are unable to communicate with the opposite sex in person think that doing so virtually will solve their problems, allow them to create a persona different to the one they show in the real world and open doors. I'm sure the same is true for some women - but I suspect the percentage that believe so is significantly smaller.
Whatever the reasons the ratios will never change, shouldn't be changed to create an imaginary 'level playing field' and are no barrier to those that are capable of interacting online as they would in person.
Internet sites are just a contact tool. Not a solution to personality issues or a replacement for normal social skills.
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"I'm saying I don't know why people allow it to be an issue. The site just doesn't work for undesirable members, it'll work fine for those that are. It's dumb to let something that is optional upset you.
"Maybe 'undesirable' isn't the best word - but it's certainly true that internet contact sites are a bad idea for some (or many even!). You wouldn't keep trying a method that generated zero return, no results and did nothing but frustrate, irritate and depress, in any other aspect of life - work, social life, sporting hobby etc - so why should this site or any other like it be different? Some people will keep trying the same old technique and blaming the same issues for ever and a day, rather than accept it isn't, and never will, work for them. Their choice of course - but at some point surely it would've easier and healthier just to accept the cold, hard truth! 
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"Men and women are different in their attitude to sex. Men are more accepting of the concept of casual sex, this is a socital norm. This means that there are likely to be more guys on a casual sex website than girls Maybe thirty/forty years ago!
These days? I disagree.
I do think women aren't as likely to expect the internet to be the sole provider of sexual encounters though. Many men it seems think that it is an easy solution to a need - which couldn't be further from the truth.
I suspect many men that are unable to communicate with the opposite sex in person think that doing so virtually will solve their problems, allow them to create a persona different to the one they show in the real world and open doors. I'm sure the same is true for some women - but I suspect the percentage that believe so is significantly smaller.
Whatever the reasons the ratios will never change, shouldn't be changed to create an imaginary 'level playing field' and are no barrier to those that are capable of interacting online as they would in person.
Internet sites are just a contact tool. Not a solution to personality issues or a replacement for normal social skills.
A"Every single woman I've had sex with I have initially met through the internet, so it has served me well. | |||
"What good is a million men if none of them are your type? Guys think women have it easy on here but I'll tell you now that logging in daily and seeing 80 odd new messages off guys that aren't your type is just as frustrating as not getting any messages at all. So do you think the volume of desperate men makes women stay away?" It does not mean they are desperate just because they are not your type | |||
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"What good is a million men if none of them are your type? Guys think women have it easy on here but I'll tell you now that logging in daily and seeing 80 odd new messages off guys that aren't your type is just as frustrating as not getting any messages at all. or more so!! Not really, you'd be complaining a lot louder if you had to purposely go looking yourself through 80 profiles who weren't your type, occasionally finding one that interests you, then never getting a reply because she interests a few thousand other single guys too - at least if there's 79 crap message in your box and one good one, if you reply to it you can count on the person on the other end actually reading it due to not being saturated with messages. *Claps*. "It's so difficult, it's so hard, it rarely works". I will never understand this kind of mentality. Do you know how I know I wouldn't complain? I wouldn't put myself in a situation where I struggle. I make choices that are in my interest. Nothing will adapt to me, it's ridiculous expecting it to and whinging when it doesn't. So you're basically acknowledging that the site doesn't work particularly well for single males (well, maybe better for the ones who frequent swinging clubs, but those aren't the site), and isn't going to improve. Shame that, as these threads often betray that both males and females aren't particularly keen on the current set up - there's a big difference between 'whinging' and valid criticism. I'm saying I don't know why people allow it to be an issue. The site just doesn't work for undesirable members, it'll work fine for those that are." Interesting comment - might I ask what your criteria for 'desirable' members are? | |||
"This may have already been pointed out but this is not a dating site. Proper dating sites tend to be female heavy especially the ones that charge. Casual sex and swinging sites are the opposite because the old adage is true. Women use sex to get love and men use love to get sex "Well said! Male animals do what they do and will always be the weaker sex (stands back and puts tin hat on). The biology and psychology changes with age and post child rearing (I think) and maybe its very sad for the really older ladies not to have the pool of same age males to have fun with. | |||
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"What good is a million men if none of them are your type? Guys think women have it easy on here but I'll tell you now that logging in daily and seeing 80 odd new messages off guys that aren't your type is just as frustrating as not getting any messages at all. " can a let you into a secret ? Your "TYPE" of guy maybe does not message anyone, because they don't need to forget your inbox, hunt them down | |||
"What good is a million men if none of them are your type? Guys think women have it easy on here but I'll tell you now that logging in daily and seeing 80 odd new messages off guys that aren't your type is just as frustrating as not getting any messages at all. or more so!! Not really, you'd be complaining a lot louder if you had to purposely go looking yourself through 80 profiles who weren't your type, occasionally finding one that interests you, then never getting a reply because she interests a few thousand other single guys too - at least if there's 79 crap message in your box and one good one, if you reply to it you can count on the person on the other end actually reading it due to not being saturated with messages. *Claps*. "It's so difficult, it's so hard, it rarely works". I will never understand this kind of mentality. Do you know how I know I wouldn't complain? I wouldn't put myself in a situation where I struggle. I make choices that are in my interest. Nothing will adapt to me, it's ridiculous expecting it to and whinging when it doesn't. So you're basically acknowledging that the site doesn't work particularly well for single males (well, maybe better for the ones who frequent swinging clubs, but those aren't the site), and isn't going to improve. Shame that, as these threads often betray that both males and females aren't particularly keen on the current set up - there's a big difference between 'whinging' and valid criticism. I'm saying I don't know why people allow it to be an issue. The site just doesn't work for undesirable members, it'll work fine for those that are. Interesting comment - might I ask what your criteria for 'desirable' members are?" For me, it's being attractive, eloquent and sociable. However - I think you've missed the point I was making. | |||
"What good is a million men if none of them are your type? Guys think women have it easy on here but I'll tell you now that logging in daily and seeing 80 odd new messages off guys that aren't your type is just as frustrating as not getting any messages at all. or more so!! Not really, you'd be complaining a lot louder if you had to purposely go looking yourself through 80 profiles who weren't your type, occasionally finding one that interests you, then never getting a reply because she interests a few thousand other single guys too - at least if there's 79 crap message in your box and one good one, if you reply to it you can count on the person on the other end actually reading it due to not being saturated with messages. *Claps*. "It's so difficult, it's so hard, it rarely works". I will never understand this kind of mentality. Do you know how I know I wouldn't complain? I wouldn't put myself in a situation where I struggle. I make choices that are in my interest. Nothing will adapt to me, it's ridiculous expecting it to and whinging when it doesn't. So you're basically acknowledging that the site doesn't work particularly well for single males (well, maybe better for the ones who frequent swinging clubs, but those aren't the site), and isn't going to improve. Shame that, as these threads often betray that both males and females aren't particularly keen on the current set up - there's a big difference between 'whinging' and valid criticism. I'm saying I don't know why people allow it to be an issue. The site just doesn't work for undesirable members, it'll work fine for those that are. Interesting comment - might I ask what your criteria for 'desirable' members are? For me, it's being attractive, eloquent and sociable. However - I think you've missed the point I was making. " So you're automatically assuming that if someone has issues with the site, then it's because they're not 'attractive' (though that needs a definition in its own right), 'eloquent' and 'sociable'? Do you not think that there may well be a number of guys on here who possess just those qualities, yet rarely get a chance to express them because they're overlooked through sheer numbers? And please, lets not have any platitudinous crap about truly attractive people being able to stand out no matter the odds - even diamonds often have to be dug for. | |||
"What good is a million men if none of them are your type? Guys think women have it easy on here but I'll tell you now that logging in daily and seeing 80 odd new messages off guys that aren't your type is just as frustrating as not getting any messages at all. can a let you into a secret ? Your "TYPE" of guy maybe does not message anyone, because they don't need to forget your inbox, hunt them down " | |||
"For me, it's being attractive, eloquent and sociable. However - I think you've missed the point I was making. " This is true of all of us, isn't it? Or at least many of us. The problem is that often messages don't get read, then get bulk deleted (completely reasonably) so menget frustrated and act like arseholes. | |||
"What good is a million men if none of them are your type? Guys think women have it easy on here but I'll tell you now that logging in daily and seeing 80 odd new messages off guys that aren't your type is just as frustrating as not getting any messages at all. or more so!! Not really, you'd be complaining a lot louder if you had to purposely go looking yourself through 80 profiles who weren't your type, occasionally finding one that interests you, then never getting a reply because she interests a few thousand other single guys too - at least if there's 79 crap message in your box and one good one, if you reply to it you can count on the person on the other end actually reading it due to not being saturated with messages. *Claps*. "It's so difficult, it's so hard, it rarely works". I will never understand this kind of mentality. Do you know how I know I wouldn't complain? I wouldn't put myself in a situation where I struggle. I make choices that are in my interest. Nothing will adapt to me, it's ridiculous expecting it to and whinging when it doesn't. So you're basically acknowledging that the site doesn't work particularly well for single males (well, maybe better for the ones who frequent swinging clubs, but those aren't the site), and isn't going to improve. Shame that, as these threads often betray that both males and females aren't particularly keen on the current set up - there's a big difference between 'whinging' and valid criticism. I'm saying I don't know why people allow it to be an issue. The site just doesn't work for undesirable members, it'll work fine for those that are. Interesting comment - might I ask what your criteria for 'desirable' members are? For me, it's being attractive, eloquent and sociable. However - I think you've missed the point I was making. So you're automatically assuming that if someone has issues with the site, then it's because they're not 'attractive' (though that needs a definition in its own right), 'eloquent' and 'sociable'? Do you not think that there may well be a number of guys on here who possess just those qualities, yet rarely get a chance to express them because they're overlooked through sheer numbers? And please, lets not have any platitudinous crap about truly attractive people being able to stand out no matter the odds - even diamonds often have to be dug for." This couldn't be more true. I like to think my profile is eloquent and well-written, as are my messages, yet I get overlooked an overwhelming majority of the time due to sheer numbers (I can only assume). | |||
"So you're automatically assuming that if someone has issues with the site, then it's because they're not 'attractive' (though that needs a definition in its own right), 'eloquent' and 'sociable'? Do you not think that there may well be a number of guys on here who possess just those qualities, yet rarely get a chance to express them because they're overlooked through sheer numbers? And please, lets not have any platitudinous crap about truly attractive people being able to stand out no matter the odds - even diamonds often have to be dug for." Although I do think that, you've missed my point. I don't think people should complain about how difficult it is when they can remove themselves. It's easily solved. I've met several men that find it hard (so do I) but they don't whinge about it because the results of the site are a luxury. You don't stay in a bath that's too hot and cry about it, you get out. | |||
"So you're automatically assuming that if someone has issues with the site, then it's because they're not 'attractive' (though that needs a definition in its own right), 'eloquent' and 'sociable'? Do you not think that there may well be a number of guys on here who possess just those qualities, yet rarely get a chance to express them because they're overlooked through sheer numbers? And please, lets not have any platitudinous crap about truly attractive people being able to stand out no matter the odds - even diamonds often have to be dug for. Although I do think that, you've missed my point. I don't think people should complain about how difficult it is when they can remove themselves. It's easily solved. I've met several men that find it hard (so do I) but they don't whinge about it because the results of the site are a luxury. You don't stay in a bath that's too hot and cry about it, you get out. " So your point is that, despite this supposedly being a public site that's for anyone who'd like to meet like minded people for sexual fun and friendship, no attempt will be made to improve the site despite its frequently pointed out shortcomings, and if you don't like it then you can always leave? | |||
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"What good is a million men if none of them are your type? Guys think women have it easy on here but I'll tell you now that logging in daily and seeing 80 odd new messages off guys that aren't your type is just as frustrating as not getting any messages at all. Amen to that!! "same here! I am sick and tired of being mailed by women.. Fecking 100 or 200 emails a day!  | |||
"So you're automatically assuming that if someone has issues with the site, then it's because they're not 'attractive' (though that needs a definition in its own right), 'eloquent' and 'sociable'? Do you not think that there may well be a number of guys on here who possess just those qualities, yet rarely get a chance to express them because they're overlooked through sheer numbers? And please, lets not have any platitudinous crap about truly attractive people being able to stand out no matter the odds - even diamonds often have to be dug for. Although I do think that, you've missed my point. I don't think people should complain about how difficult it is when they can remove themselves. It's easily solved. I've met several men that find it hard (so do I) but they don't whinge about it because the results of the site are a luxury. You don't stay in a bath that's too hot and cry about it, you get out. So your point is that, despite this supposedly being a public site that's for anyone who'd like to meet like minded people for sexual fun and friendship, no attempt will be made to improve the site despite its frequently pointed out shortcomings, and if you don't like it then you can always leave?" Yes. The use of this site is not a right and it doesn't have to fit in with someone's ideals. Plus the whole point of this thread is the assumption that there's too many men which makes it harder for other men, which is silly. There's always going to be competitors. | |||
"I imagine many of the extra women are over 70, you seriously see a lot more women then men of that age. I genuinely believe that women do find it easier to live on their own, especially as they often have care of the children. Many men I know (I don't mean all by any means) just seem to be unable to be on their own. I guess there are women who are the same, but in my social circle the females are happy being single . I blame the quality of sex toys for females as the demise of the man hehe
Any man whose sex technique is bested by a buzzing piece of plastic doesn't deserve to get laid."silicone skin, digital motor, internal rechargeable batteries and remote control; welcome to the 21st century | |||
"I imagine many of the extra women are over 70, you seriously see a lot more women then men of that age. I genuinely believe that women do find it easier to live on their own, especially as they often have care of the children. Many men I know (I don't mean all by any means) just seem to be unable to be on their own. I guess there are women who are the same, but in my social circle the females are happy being single . I blame the quality of sex toys for females as the demise of the man hehe
Any man whose sex technique is bested by a buzzing piece of plastic doesn't deserve to get laid.
silicone skin, digital motor, internal rechargeable batteries and remote control; welcome to the 21st century "Oh, and multiple programs. Now some men may be good but most cannot compete  | |||
"What good is a million men if none of them are your type? Guys think women have it easy on here but I'll tell you now that logging in daily and seeing 80 odd new messages off guys that aren't your type is just as frustrating as not getting any messages at all. or more so!! Not really, you'd be complaining a lot louder if you had to purposely go looking yourself through 80 profiles who weren't your type, occasionally finding one that interests you, then never getting a reply because she interests a few thousand other single guys too - at least if there's 79 crap message in your box and one good one, if you reply to it you can count on the person on the other end actually reading it due to not being saturated with messages. *Claps*. "It's so difficult, it's so hard, it rarely works". I will never understand this kind of mentality. Do you know how I know I wouldn't complain? I wouldn't put myself in a situation where I struggle. I make choices that are in my interest. Nothing will adapt to me, it's ridiculous expecting it to and whinging when it doesn't. So you're basically acknowledging that the site doesn't work particularly well for single males (well, maybe better for the ones who frequent swinging clubs, but those aren't the site), and isn't going to improve. Shame that, as these threads often betray that both males and females aren't particularly keen on the current set up - there's a big difference between 'whinging' and valid criticism. I'm saying I don't know why people allow it to be an issue. The site just doesn't work for undesirable members, it'll work fine for those that are. Interesting comment - might I ask what your criteria for 'desirable' members are? For me, it's being attractive, eloquent and sociable. However - I think you've missed the point I was making. So you're automatically assuming that if someone has issues with the site, then it's because they're not 'attractive' (though that needs a definition in its own right), 'eloquent' and 'sociable'? Do you not think that there may well be a number of guys on here who possess just those qualities, yet rarely get a chance to express them because they're overlooked through sheer numbers? And please, lets not have any platitudinous crap about truly attractive people being able to stand out no matter the odds - even diamonds often have to be dug for. This couldn't be more true. I like to think my profile is eloquent and well-written, as are my messages, yet I get overlooked an overwhelming majority of the time due to sheer numbers (I can only assume)." As I've said on similar threads before - if assuming your messages are being bulk deleted - rather than the possibility that someone has simply viewed your profile/message and decided that you're not for them - then that's your choice! It seems a common (and easy cop out) justification by many. Yet day in, day out, single guys are happily enjoying the site, exchanging messages and meeting. As for the "automatically assuming that if someone has issues with the site, then it's because they're not 'attractive' (though that needs a definition in its own right), 'eloquent' and 'sociable'? Do you not think that there may well be a number of guys on here who possess just those qualities, yet rarely get a chance to express them because they're overlooked through sheer numbers?" comment? I suspect you're right that there are many sociable and eloquent guys on here! However I also suspect (ok - know!) that guys that limit themselves solely to engaging via the site rather than putting the effort in to physical encounters such as socials and clubs will rarely see any change or improvement - whereas those that do.................. 
Social skills and eloquence are far better displayed in person - rather than from behind a keyboard.
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"I'm sure this question has been raised many times over but I'd like to put a different spin in it! There are 1m more women than men in the UK so why is it all dating websites are overcrowded with blokes. Unless there are lots of men with multiple wives then statistically there must be more single women than men. Are females just more content with being single? Or are their lots of cheating men crowding out us genuine singles? I'd love to know the your opinions!" Because patriarchal society is shit and still impresses onto us the idea that women shouldn't go out and look for sex, while men should. | |||
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"So you're automatically assuming that if someone has issues with the site, then it's because they're not 'attractive' (though that needs a definition in its own right), 'eloquent' and 'sociable'? Do you not think that there may well be a number of guys on here who possess just those qualities, yet rarely get a chance to express them because they're overlooked through sheer numbers? And please, lets not have any platitudinous crap about truly attractive people being able to stand out no matter the odds - even diamonds often have to be dug for. Although I do think that, you've missed my point. I don't think people should complain about how difficult it is when they can remove themselves. It's easily solved. I've met several men that find it hard (so do I) but they don't whinge about it because the results of the site are a luxury. You don't stay in a bath that's too hot and cry about it, you get out. So your point is that, despite this supposedly being a public site that's for anyone who'd like to meet like minded people for sexual fun and friendship, no attempt will be made to improve the site despite its frequently pointed out shortcomings, and if you don't like it then you can always leave? Yes. The use of this site is not a right and it doesn't have to fit in with someone's ideals." I suspect you wouldn't be championing that point of view quite so vehemently if you weren't fortunate enough to be in the most demanded group yourself. "Plus the whole point of this thread is the assumption that there's too many men which makes it harder for other men, which is silly. There's always going to be competitors. " Nor this. Healthy competition is fine, being stuck beneath a slew of 'hi/hows u/fancy a fuk' messages isn't. | |||
"So your point is that, despite this supposedly being a public site that's for anyone who'd like to meet like minded people for sexual fun and friendship, no attempt will be made to improve the site despite its frequently pointed out shortcomings, and if you don't like it then you can always leave?" The site is public, is for anyone and works for many. But it is just a website. It entitles you, or any other member to nothing - be they male, female or couple. Those that realise this seldom complain. If it doesn't work for them? They leave. Or they stay and change their approach or their expectancies. Or they continue to blame the site, the ratios, other people and their actions, the weather, geography, some all powerful deity cursing them to be ignored or anything and everything - rather than reflect on themselves. And it will never change!
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"As for the automatically assuming that if someone has issues with the site, then it's because they're not 'attractive' (though that needs a definition in its own right), 'eloquent' and 'sociable'? Do you not think that there may well be a number of guys on here who possess just those qualities, yet rarely get a chance to express them because they're overlooked through sheer numbers?comment? I suspect you're right that there are many sociable and eloquent guys on here! However I also suspect (ok - know!) that guys that limit themselves solely to engaging via the site rather than putting the effort in to physical encounters such as socials and clubs" Clubs and socials are rather a cop out as we're talking about the site, and how it doesn't work particularly well due to the sheer number of guys - mind though, I suppose if it did then clubs and socials would likely find themselves struggling | |||
"So you're automatically assuming that if someone has issues with the site, then it's because they're not 'attractive' (though that needs a definition in its own right), 'eloquent' and 'sociable'? Do you not think that there may well be a number of guys on here who possess just those qualities, yet rarely get a chance to express them because they're overlooked through sheer numbers? And please, lets not have any platitudinous crap about truly attractive people being able to stand out no matter the odds - even diamonds often have to be dug for. Although I do think that, you've missed my point. I don't think people should complain about how difficult it is when they can remove themselves. It's easily solved. I've met several men that find it hard (so do I) but they don't whinge about it because the results of the site are a luxury. You don't stay in a bath that's too hot and cry about it, you get out. So your point is that, despite this supposedly being a public site that's for anyone who'd like to meet like minded people for sexual fun and friendship, no attempt will be made to improve the site despite its frequently pointed out shortcomings, and if you don't like it then you can always leave? Yes. The use of this site is not a right and it doesn't have to fit in with someone's ideals. I suspect you wouldn't be championing that point of view quite so vehemently if you weren't fortunate enough to be in the most demanded group yourself. Plus the whole point of this thread is the assumption that there's too many men which makes it harder for other men, which is silly. There's always going to be competitors. Nor this. Healthy competition is fine, being stuck beneath a slew of 'hi/hows u/fancy a fuk' messages isn't." I've been let down/stood up several times historically, but it's the nature of the beast. I move on and get over it. I don't think whinging about something is a good trait and it probably impedes the chances of people who are prone to it. I know those who have negative updates or throw their toys out of the pram get blocked by me. Anyway, you can't choose your competition so expecting the site to do something about members with approaches you don't like is unreasonable. If members stick to the rules, then you can't say one's more worthy of meets than another. | |||
"As for the automatically assuming that if someone has issues with the site, then it's because they're not 'attractive' (though that needs a definition in its own right), 'eloquent' and 'sociable'? Do you not think that there may well be a number of guys on here who possess just those qualities, yet rarely get a chance to express them because they're overlooked through sheer numbers?comment? I suspect you're right that there are many sociable and eloquent guys on here! However I also suspect (ok - know!) that guys that limit themselves solely to engaging via the site rather than putting the effort in to physical encounters such as socials and clubs Clubs and socials are rather a cop out as we're talking about the site, and how it doesn't work particularly well due to the sheer number of guys - mind though, I suppose if it did then clubs and socials would likely find themselves struggling "Who do you think goes to clubs and socials?
Site members. Many of them single males. Who then, having demonstrated to others their social skills and personalities miraculously seem to manage to get their messages answered and arrange meets - on the same site where you constantly claim it is impossible to so so.
So yeah - a total cop out!
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" So your point is that, despite this supposedly being a public site that's for anyone who'd like to meet like minded people for sexual fun and friendship, no attempt will be made to improve the site despite its frequently pointed out shortcomings, and if you don't like it then you can always leave?" So what improvements would you suggest? | |||
"So you're automatically assuming that if someone has issues with the site, then it's because they're not 'attractive' (though that needs a definition in its own right), 'eloquent' and 'sociable'? Do you not think that there may well be a number of guys on here who possess just those qualities, yet rarely get a chance to express them because they're overlooked through sheer numbers? And please, lets not have any platitudinous crap about truly attractive people being able to stand out no matter the odds - even diamonds often have to be dug for. Although I do think that, you've missed my point. I don't think people should complain about how difficult it is when they can remove themselves. It's easily solved. I've met several men that find it hard (so do I) but they don't whinge about it because the results of the site are a luxury. You don't stay in a bath that's too hot and cry about it, you get out. So your point is that, despite this supposedly being a public site that's for anyone who'd like to meet like minded people for sexual fun and friendship, no attempt will be made to improve the site despite its frequently pointed out shortcomings, and if you don't like it then you can always leave? Yes. The use of this site is not a right and it doesn't have to fit in with someone's ideals. I suspect you wouldn't be championing that point of view quite so vehemently if you weren't fortunate enough to be in the most demanded group yourself. Plus the whole point of this thread is the assumption that there's too many men which makes it harder for other men, which is silly. There's always going to be competitors. Nor this. Healthy competition is fine, being stuck beneath a slew of 'hi/hows u/fancy a fuk' messages isn't. I've been let down/stood up several times historically, but it's the nature of the beast. I move on and get over it." I suppose that's rather easy though when you've plenty more potential suitors ready and waiting in your inbox for your attention
"I don't think whinging about something is a good trait and it probably impedes the chances of people who are prone to it. I know those who have negative updates or throw their toys out of the pram get blocked by me." You're right in that complaining isn't an attractive quality, however, you'd have a far better understanding why we do it yourself if, as I've repeatedly pointed out, you weren't afforded the luxuries on here single females so often take for granted. "Anyway, you can't choose your competition so expecting the site to do something about members with approaches you don't like is unreasonable." And yet, the generally crap quality of single male messages on here is such an issue that it's gone beyond one of personal complaint into an entire theme - a brief read through any topic will quickly reveal the pervading attitude that a VAST number of guys on here have absolutely no idea how to talk to women. "If members stick to the rules, then you can't say one's more worthy of meets than another. " Despite the fact that you yourself have already pointed out further up that some are more attractive than others. | |||
"I initially started off meeting men. All of them, except one, were shit shags. I stopped looking to meet single men. I don't use this site for sex, I used it to get good sex. Most women give up. I prefer to change my tactics to get what I want." I'm bloody glad you changed your tactics | |||
"What good is a million men if none of them are your type? Guys think women have it easy on here but I'll tell you now that logging in daily and seeing 80 odd new messages off guys that aren't your type is just as frustrating as not getting any messages at all. How true " | |||
" So your point is that, despite this supposedly being a public site that's for anyone who'd like to meet like minded people for sexual fun and friendship, no attempt will be made to improve the site despite its frequently pointed out shortcomings, and if you don't like it then you can always leave? So what improvements would you suggest?" This I'd love to know too!
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"As for the automatically assuming that if someone has issues with the site, then it's because they're not 'attractive' (though that needs a definition in its own right), 'eloquent' and 'sociable'? Do you not think that there may well be a number of guys on here who possess just those qualities, yet rarely get a chance to express them because they're overlooked through sheer numbers?comment? I suspect you're right that there are many sociable and eloquent guys on here! However I also suspect (ok - know!) that guys that limit themselves solely to engaging via the site rather than putting the effort in to physical encounters such as socials and clubs Clubs and socials are rather a cop out as we're talking about the site, and how it doesn't work particularly well due to the sheer number of guys - mind though, I suppose if it did then clubs and socials would likely find themselves struggling
Who do you think goes to clubs and socials?
Site members."Yeah, as I said, because they're disenchanted with the site - you know, this one we're debating the number on? "Who then, having demonstrated to others their social skills and personalities miraculously seem to manage to get their messages answered and arrange meets - on the same site where you constantly claim it is impossible to so so." Though that's done via the clubs, the site is then used to simply answer messages from people, rather than as intended - ie, to meet them in the first place. "So yeah - a total cop out!
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"So you're automatically assuming that if someone has issues with the site, then it's because they're not 'attractive' (though that needs a definition in its own right), 'eloquent' and 'sociable'? Do you not think that there may well be a number of guys on here who possess just those qualities, yet rarely get a chance to express them because they're overlooked through sheer numbers? And please, lets not have any platitudinous crap about truly attractive people being able to stand out no matter the odds - even diamonds often have to be dug for. Although I do think that, you've missed my point. I don't think people should complain about how difficult it is when they can remove themselves. It's easily solved. I've met several men that find it hard (so do I) but they don't whinge about it because the results of the site are a luxury. You don't stay in a bath that's too hot and cry about it, you get out. So your point is that, despite this supposedly being a public site that's for anyone who'd like to meet like minded people for sexual fun and friendship, no attempt will be made to improve the site despite its frequently pointed out shortcomings, and if you don't like it then you can always leave? Yes. The use of this site is not a right and it doesn't have to fit in with someone's ideals. I suspect you wouldn't be championing that point of view quite so vehemently if you weren't fortunate enough to be in the most demanded group yourself. Plus the whole point of this thread is the assumption that there's too many men which makes it harder for other men, which is silly. There's always going to be competitors. Nor this. Healthy competition is fine, being stuck beneath a slew of 'hi/hows u/fancy a fuk' messages isn't. I've been let down/stood up several times historically, but it's the nature of the beast. I move on and get over it. I suppose that's rather easy though when you've plenty more potential suitors ready and waiting in your inbox for your attention
I don't think whinging about something is a good trait and it probably impedes the chances of people who are prone to it. I know those who have negative updates or throw their toys out of the pram get blocked by me.
You're right in that complaining isn't an attractive quality, however, you'd have a far better understanding why we do it yourself if, as I've repeatedly pointed out, you weren't afforded the luxuries on here single females so often take for granted.
Anyway, you can't choose your competition so expecting the site to do something about members with approaches you don't like is unreasonable.
And yet, the generally crap quality of single male messages on here is such an issue that it's gone beyond one of personal complaint into an entire theme - a brief read through any topic will quickly reveal the pervading attitude that a VAST number of guys on here have absolutely no idea how to talk to women.
If members stick to the rules, then you can't say one's more worthy of meets than another.
Despite the fact that you yourself have already pointed out further up that some are more attractive than others."Riiiight, your not getting replies is much worse than my being stood up. I'll comfort myself with that thought the next time it happens. To be honest, I think you're just wallowing in self pity and not understanding that it's you. I don't understand why you'd put yourself through it, it's like self flagellation. You've misquoted me there, I'm not going to fuck people I'm not attracted to to restore your faith. I wouldn't meet them, it doesn't mean that they should be removed to give you more of a chance. | |||
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"As for the automatically assuming that if someone has issues with the site, then it's because they're not 'attractive' (though that needs a definition in its own right), 'eloquent' and 'sociable'? Do you not think that there may well be a number of guys on here who possess just those qualities, yet rarely get a chance to express them because they're overlooked through sheer numbers?comment? I suspect you're right that there are many sociable and eloquent guys on here! However I also suspect (ok - know!) that guys that limit themselves solely to engaging via the site rather than putting the effort in to physical encounters such as socials and clubs Clubs and socials are rather a cop out as we're talking about the site, and how it doesn't work particularly well due to the sheer number of guys - mind though, I suppose if it did then clubs and socials would likely find themselves struggling
Who do you think goes to clubs and socials?
Site members.
Yeah, as I said, because they're disenchanted with the site - you know, this one we're debating the number on?
Who then, having demonstrated to others their social skills and personalities miraculously seem to manage to get their messages answered and arrange meets - on the same site where you constantly claim it is impossible to so so.
Though that's done via the clubs, the site is then used to simply answer messages from people, rather than as intended - ie, to meet them in the first place.
So yeah - a total cop out!
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Thanks for agreeing with me - your post supported my argument beautifully."Club goers are disenchanted with the site? 
Really??
Since when? Most use both happily and as a combined approach rather than relying in one or the other.
As for your second point? Club/social attendees often find that their attendance leads to veri's highlighting their personal qualities and character - which when viewed by others on the site work in their favour! Why do you think the common advice to single guys is to get out from behind their keyboards and show themselves in the real world?
Supported your argument? I don't think so. And trust me - the chances of us ever agreeing on anything are slim to none. There's more chance of women outnumbering men on Fab!
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"So you're automatically assuming that if someone has issues with the site, then it's because they're not 'attractive' (though that needs a definition in its own right), 'eloquent' and 'sociable'? Do you not think that there may well be a number of guys on here who possess just those qualities, yet rarely get a chance to express them because they're overlooked through sheer numbers? And please, lets not have any platitudinous crap about truly attractive people being able to stand out no matter the odds - even diamonds often have to be dug for. Although I do think that, you've missed my point. I don't think people should complain about how difficult it is when they can remove themselves. It's easily solved. I've met several men that find it hard (so do I) but they don't whinge about it because the results of the site are a luxury. You don't stay in a bath that's too hot and cry about it, you get out. So your point is that, despite this supposedly being a public site that's for anyone who'd like to meet like minded people for sexual fun and friendship, no attempt will be made to improve the site despite its frequently pointed out shortcomings, and if you don't like it then you can always leave? Yes. The use of this site is not a right and it doesn't have to fit in with someone's ideals. I suspect you wouldn't be championing that point of view quite so vehemently if you weren't fortunate enough to be in the most demanded group yourself. Plus the whole point of this thread is the assumption that there's too many men which makes it harder for other men, which is silly. There's always going to be competitors. Nor this. Healthy competition is fine, being stuck beneath a slew of 'hi/hows u/fancy a fuk' messages isn't. I've been let down/stood up several times historically, but it's the nature of the beast. I move on and get over it. I suppose that's rather easy though when you've plenty more potential suitors ready and waiting in your inbox for your attention
I don't think whinging about something is a good trait and it probably impedes the chances of people who are prone to it. I know those who have negative updates or throw their toys out of the pram get blocked by me.
You're right in that complaining isn't an attractive quality, however, you'd have a far better understanding why we do it yourself if, as I've repeatedly pointed out, you weren't afforded the luxuries on here single females so often take for granted.
Anyway, you can't choose your competition so expecting the site to do something about members with approaches you don't like is unreasonable.
And yet, the generally crap quality of single male messages on here is such an issue that it's gone beyond one of personal complaint into an entire theme - a brief read through any topic will quickly reveal the pervading attitude that a VAST number of guys on here have absolutely no idea how to talk to women.
If members stick to the rules, then you can't say one's more worthy of meets than another.
Despite the fact that you yourself have already pointed out further up that some are more attractive than others.
Riiiight, your not getting replies is much worse than my being stood up. I'll comfort myself with that thought the next time it happens."You say that as though single males don't get stood up as well? My point was its far easier for you to try again, as you're given more chances than we are. "To be honest, I think you're just wallowing in self pity and not understanding that it's you." There's a big difference between airing a valid complaint, and self pity. "I don't understand why you'd put yourself through it, it's like self flagellation." Hence why more people should complain and raise issues with the site (so long as it's done in a relevant fashion - many guys I see complain on here have crap profiles, and I strongly suspect their messages are of a similar quality) as it's the only way to improve it. "You've misquoted me there, I'm not going to fuck people I'm not attracted to to restore your faith. I wouldn't meet them, it doesn't mean that they should be removed to give you more of a chance. " Do you think others would meet them, honestly? Is that what you think to the overall quality of your inbox, I'm not interested but someone else might be? | |||
" Hence why more people should complain and raise issues with the site as it's the only way to improve it. " How? | |||
" So your point is that, despite this supposedly being a public site that's for anyone who'd like to meet like minded people for sexual fun and friendship, no attempt will be made to improve the site despite its frequently pointed out shortcomings, and if you don't like it then you can always leave? So what improvements would you suggest?" As I've suggested in the past, multiple categories for single males - 'standard' for newcomers, 'established' for those who've already been around a while, taken the time to write good profiles, post good pics, have good verifications etc. As these categories are separate, blocking one doesn't block the other, and allows women more flexibility in who they allow messages from. | |||
" So your point is that, despite this supposedly being a public site that's for anyone who'd like to meet like minded people for sexual fun and friendship, no attempt will be made to improve the site despite its frequently pointed out shortcomings, and if you don't like it then you can always leave? So what improvements would you suggest? As I've suggested in the past, multiple categories for single males - 'standard' for newcomers, 'established' for those who've already been around a while, taken the time to write good profiles, post good pics, have good verifications etc. As these categories are separate, blocking one doesn't block the other, and allows women more flexibility in who they allow messages from." What if some of the 'established' ones are worse (in terms of behaviour, attitude and personality) than the new guys? Length of time on site is no guarantee of anything - and what if someone uses advice, feedback or just plain copies a profile? What if a pro photographer joins? Is he not disadvantaging the others? And who decides? You? A committee? Admin? A public vote? You do realise this is a free site? A | |||
" So your point is that, despite this supposedly being a public site that's for anyone who'd like to meet like minded people for sexual fun and friendship, no attempt will be made to improve the site despite its frequently pointed out shortcomings, and if you don't like it then you can always leave? So what improvements would you suggest? As I've suggested in the past, multiple categories for single males - 'standard' for newcomers, 'established' for those who've already been around a while, taken the time to write good profiles, post good pics, have good verifications etc. As these categories are separate, blocking one doesn't block the other, and allows women more flexibility in who they allow messages from. What if some of the 'established' ones are worse (in terms of behaviour, attitude and personality) than the new guys?" They probably won't have many/any verifications then - one of the criteria I pointed out
"and what if someone uses advice, feedback or just plain copies a profile? " If they use advice and feedback then it shows they're making an attempt to improve themselves as swingers, that obviously should be encouraged. As for copying a profile, that gets them deleted - much as it is now. "What if a pro photographer joins? Is he not disadvantaging the others?" If he's taken the time to learn how to take good pics, why shouldn't that be an advantage?
"And who decides? You? A committee? Admin? A public vote?" Once the overall 'rules' had been ironed out, established status would be awarded automatically once a single male has been on the site for a particular length of time, their pics have accrued so many fabs, their profiles contain a minimum number of words, and they have a number of verifications. " Predictable 'but what if these are fake verifications?' response" Then the profile, and all the people who left them are instantly deleted. | |||
" So your point is that, despite this supposedly being a public site that's for anyone who'd like to meet like minded people for sexual fun and friendship, no attempt will be made to improve the site despite its frequently pointed out shortcomings, and if you don't like it then you can always leave? So what improvements would you suggest? As I've suggested in the past, multiple categories for single males - 'standard' for newcomers, 'established' for those who've already been around a while, taken the time to write good profiles, post good pics, have good verifications etc. As these categories are separate, blocking one doesn't block the other, and allows women more flexibility in who they allow messages from. What if some of the 'established' ones are worse (in terms of behaviour, attitude and personality) than the new guys? Length of time on site is no guarantee of anything - and what if someone uses advice, feedback or just plain copies a profile? What if a pro photographer joins? Is he not disadvantaging the others? And who decides? You? A committee? Admin? A public vote? You do realise this is a free site? A" To be fair, they're kind of already in existence. You can block unverified, you can block those without photos, and you can block new members. It still hasnt changed the whinging. | |||
" So your point is that, despite this supposedly being a public site that's for anyone who'd like to meet like minded people for sexual fun and friendship, no attempt will be made to improve the site despite its frequently pointed out shortcomings, and if you don't like it then you can always leave? So what improvements would you suggest? As I've suggested in the past, multiple categories for single males - 'standard' for newcomers, 'established' for those who've already been around a while, taken the time to write good profiles, post good pics, have good verifications etc. As these categories are separate, blocking one doesn't block the other, and allows women more flexibility in who they allow messages from. What if some of the 'established' ones are worse (in terms of behaviour, attitude and personality) than the new guys? They probably won't have many/any verifications then - one of the criteria I pointed out
and what if someone uses advice, feedback or just plain copies a profile?
If they use advice and feedback then it shows they're making an attempt to improve themselves as swingers, that obviously should be encouraged. As for copying a profile, that gets them deleted - much as it is now.
What if a pro photographer joins? Is he not disadvantaging the others?
If he's taken the time to learn how to take good pics, why shouldn't that be an advantage?
And who decides? You? A committee? Admin? A public vote?
Once the overall 'rules' had been ironed out, established status would be awarded automatically once a single male has been on the site for a particular length of time, their pics have accrued so many fabs, their profiles contain a minimum number of words, and they have a number of verifications.
Predictable 'but what if these are fake verifications?' response
Then the profile, and all the people who left them are instantly deleted. "Over complicated, unworkable and unnecessary. Why not just ban all single guys apart from you? Would be easier! A | |||
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"This thread makes depressing reading. Sometimes, maybe we're just not that into each other. Single men, maybe your messages are not being replied to or you're not meeting who you want to meet because those people just don't want to fuck you. It's not because us poor maidens are drowning in messages from men, so you can't possibly get through, that is total bullshit. I could get a thousand messages or I could get one. I'm still only going to meet the person I want to meet, other men have absolutely no impact on my decision about an individual. The same applies to women and couples. If you're not interested, you're not interested. If you are interested, you'll reply. Everyone is very fixated on here with what everyone else does and how that affects their 'chances'; it's quite bizarre. "
Sometimes men tell me I'm not going to get what I am looking for and they are the best I could do, so I should meet them.
They don't get that I'm not here for the best I can get, (even if that's what they are), if it's not what I want.
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"Because men find it hard in real life to get sex so thinks that by joining a sex site, the women will fall infront of their legs, whilst women got no problem in real life to get a fuck, that's why really lol "True | |||
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"This thread makes depressing reading. Sometimes, maybe we're just not that into each other. Single men, maybe your messages are not being replied to or you're not meeting who you want to meet because those people just don't want to fuck you. It's not because us poor maidens are drowning in messages from men, so you can't possibly get through, that is total bullshit. I could get a thousand messages or I could get one. I'm still only going to meet the person I want to meet, other men have absolutely no impact on my decision about an individual. The same applies to women and couples. If you're not interested, you're not interested. If you are interested, you'll reply. Everyone is very fixated on here with what everyone else does and how that affects their 'chances'; it's quite bizarre.
Sometimes men tell me I'm not going to get what I am looking for and they are the best I could do, so I should meet them.
They don't get that I'm not here for the best I can get, (even if that's what they are), if it's not what I want.
I think a lot of guys will take what they can get and can't understand that women are not necessarily the same." I didn't used to think so, but I now do believe there really is a huge difference between how (generalising here) men and women approach sex. Both the imbalance in numbers and the approach of most men and most women on here certainly suggest there is. | |||
"What good is a million men if none of them are your type? Guys think women have it easy on here but I'll tell you now that logging in daily and seeing 80 odd new messages off guys that aren't your type is just as frustrating as not getting any messages at all. " Make that 81. | |||
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"If more people took this site with a pinch of salt and didn't have their sex lives depending on it... Then there would be alot less disappointed people. "Exactly. There was a world out there before the Internet and there was a world out there before swinger's clubs; people still managed to have sex The Internet is a good place to use as an add-on, not as a replacement for the real world | |||
"If more people took this site with a pinch of salt and didn't have their sex lives depending on it... Then there would be alot less disappointed people.
Exactly. There was a world out there before the Internet and there was a world out there before swinger's clubs; people still managed to have sex
The Internet is a good place to use as an add-on, not as a replacement for the real world" | |||
"What good is a million men if none of them are your type? Guys think women have it easy on here but I'll tell you now that logging in daily and seeing 80 odd new messages off guys that aren't your type is just as frustrating as not getting any messages at all. Make that 81. "Theres nothing in my box from you!? | |||
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"If more people took this site with a pinch of salt and didn't have their sex lives depending on it... Then there would be alot less disappointed people. "Well said | |||
"If more people took this site with a pinch of salt and didn't have their sex lives depending on it... Then there would be alot less disappointed people.
Well said "Thanks..... By the way u never replied to my message hehe (joke) | |||
"If more people took this site with a pinch of salt and didn't have their sex lives depending on it... Then there would be alot less disappointed people. "I just use this site for the forum and my sex life is outside fab | |||
"What good is a million men if none of them are your type? Guys think women have it easy on here but I'll tell you now that logging in daily and seeing 80 odd new messages off guys that aren't your type is just as frustrating as not getting any messages at all. Make that 81.
Theres nothing in my box from you!?"Check again. | |||
"Men and women are different in their attitude to sex. Men are more accepting of the concept of casual sex, this is a socital norm. This means that there are likely to be more guys on a casual sex website than girls Maybe thirty/forty years ago!
These days? I disagree.
"All you have to do is go on any normal dating site to prove my point Majority of women on these state they don't want one night stands, casual encounters or fuck buddies. I'm betting even tho a lot of guys don't state it in thier profiles that they are very much interested in these things. Fab is a place where women who want casual relationships go, the news has got out so a lot of guys want some of that action. I know I do. | |||
