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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Just seen him get interviewed on a whole host of topics by Murnahan.
Came back with sensible, coherent and answered the questions!. Not like the question dodging and waffling politicians and most of all.. Not reflecting some of the histerical or tory propoganda type comments ive seen about him on here.  |
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The guy can babble on all he likes. Hes not governing the country..its easy to say things that you think people want to hear . The mans a buffoon..his party with there views will never ever be elected |
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"Just seen him get interviewed on a whole host of topics by Murnahan.
Came back with sensible, coherent and answered the questions!. Not like the question dodging and waffling politicians and most of all.. Not reflecting some of the histerical or tory propoganda type comments ive seen about him on here. "
safe to assume your a fan so hardly an objective view..
its not only some of the 'tories' on here who don't 'like him', many folks dont across the board..
its nothing personal as lets be honest none of us even die hard ukippers actually know him..
its what he represents politically and that those of the far right are attracted to that, the bigots and intolerant as exhibited on here by some.. |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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He might be as eloquent as Oscar Wilde, but his fellow party members are certainly not. I don't want my local government decisions being made by an old man who thinks women are sluts, or all immigrants should be deported back to Bongo Bongo Land.
If people think Farage isn't being coached desperately by PR men then they're deluded. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"Just seen him get interviewed on a whole host of topics by Murnahan.
Came back with sensible, coherent and answered the questions!. Not like the question dodging and waffling politicians and most of all.. Not reflecting some of the histerical or tory propoganda type comments ive seen about him on here. "
just watching the interview now.....
said there was no policies at the moment other than europe... but would be making a few speeches in the next few months
said, we pressed by murnahan there would be cuts (ahem... savings made) to the NHS budget and that medically professionals who's standard of english is poor would be sacked (so around about 10% of nurses for example at the moment) ....
so there is your first nugget of UKIP policy..... |
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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago
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"The man talks sense, just most people in this country don't want to listen "
If you know that you dont have a hope in hell of being elected to govern you can come out with populist talk. "I want my country back," is a perfect example of a somewhat simplistic soundbyte that appeals very much to those who dont want to think too much about politics and just need someone to cheer.
Unfortunately Milliband and Cameron have to answer difficult policy related questions that Farage said he would "announce in a series of speeches."
Unfortunately, real politics is a bit more difficult when you have to be accountable. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Just seen him get interviewed on a whole host of topics by Murnahan.
Came back with sensible, coherent and answered the questions!. Not like the question dodging and waffling politicians and most of all.. Not reflecting some of the histerical or tory propoganda type comments ive seen about him on here.
just watching the interview now.....
said there was no policies at the moment other than europe... but would be making a few speeches in the next few months
said, we pressed by murnahan there would be cuts (ahem... savings made) to the NHS budget and that medically professionals who's standard of english is poor would be sacked (so around about 10% of nurses for example at the moment) ....
so there is your first nugget of UKIP policy....."
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
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"Surely, it's not about liking him.
Is it not whether he is fit,able,responsible enough to lead a party,govern the country??? "
Quite. I don't vote according to popularity. I consider policies and whether those policies or parts thereof are likely to be enacted. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Just seen him get interviewed on a whole host of topics by Murnahan.
Came back with sensible, coherent and answered the questions!. Not like the question dodging and waffling politicians and most of all.. Not reflecting some of the histerical or tory propoganda type comments ive seen about him on here. "
OP- Farage has a background as a Merchant Banker and in my view will always be a total "Merchant Banker"  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"watching the interview now.....
said there was no policies at the moment other than europe... "
But their must be policies! 
On at least 2 different threads in the last week I've been shot down by the Kippers when I've tried to discuss policy. In fact I've even been told that the policies are widely available if I care to look!
Farage makes it up as he goes along as on the face if it do his followers. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Just seen him get interviewed on a whole host of topics by Murnahan.
Came back with sensible, coherent and answered the questions!. Not like the question dodging and waffling politicians and most of all.. Not reflecting some of the histerical or tory propoganda type comments ive seen about him on here.
just watching the interview now.....
said there was no policies at the moment other than europe... but would be making a few speeches in the next few months
said, we pressed by murnahan there would be cuts (ahem... savings made) to the NHS budget and that medically professionals who's standard of english is poor would be sacked (so around about 10% of nurses for example at the moment) ....
so there is your first nugget of UKIP policy.....
Scary "
Not really he'll retract it once he gets criticised. As he always does |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Out of the 3 major parties Farage seems the most confident in what he says. Had Milliband or Cameron talked like this im sure there popularity would be just the same. Give the people what they want to hear and it will make you popular! Where would UKIP be without farage there "showman"? |
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"watching the interview now.....
said there was no policies at the moment other than europe...
But their must be policies!
On at least 2 different threads in the last week I've been shot down by the Kippers when I've tried to discuss policy. In fact I've even been told that the policies are widely available if I care to look!
Farage makes it up as he goes along as on the face if it do his followers. "
The stay vague and blag it set of policies... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Farage disowning the 2010 manifesto. Doesn't come across as particularly sensible or coherent with his answers with lots of dodging and waffling.
http://youtu.be/Ek159wmiB3E |
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By (user no longer on site)
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What is most scary of all is that he's a damming indictment of the state of other main political parties. Here's a party with no clear polices or manifesto, who resemble a line up from the Muppets with antics worthy of Monty Python and they are winning seats and gaining political power.
Don't bitch about Farage and UKIP, bitch about the utter lack of coherent engagement with the electorate being shown by the big three.
They all took turns shitting in the pool, only UKIP seems to be offering the people a net...
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Feck off he's a pillock.
yet another reasoned well thought out point made by ukips opponents "
Ooh you are right.
Let me ponder why you have such an appetite for this moron.
Are you truly bereft of any doubt where his integrity and humanity is concerned?
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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"What is most scary of all is that he's a damming indictment of the state of other main political parties."
Personally I think its more a damning indictment of the inability of the electorate to be easily swayed by soundbite politics while ignoring the very real consequences of their decisions. |
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"What is most scary of all is that he's a damming indictment of the state of other main political parties.
Personally I think its more a damning indictment of the inability of the electorate to be easily swayed by soundbite politics while ignoring the very real consequences of their decisions."
They'll be self appointed bakery judges next. |
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"Just seen him get interviewed on a whole host of topics by Murnahan.
Came back with sensible, coherent and answered the questions!. Not like the question dodging and waffling politicians and most of all.. Not reflecting some of the histerical or tory propoganda type comments ive seen about him on here.
just watching the interview now.....
said there was no policies at the moment other than europe... but would be making a few speeches in the next few months
said, we pressed by murnahan there would be cuts (ahem... savings made) to the NHS budget and that medically professionals who's standard of english is poor would be sacked (so around about 10% of nurses for example at the moment) ....
so there is your first nugget of UKIP policy....."
To be fair I struggled to understand the consultant I saw at a recent appointment. I told him I hadn't a clue what he was on about so he got his registrar...couldn't understand him either, it was surreal like a comedy sketch, I'd have laughed if I wasn't so frustrated.
In the end I left, nothing resolved and they wrote to my gp saying I declined treatment! I told my doctor I could hardly decline what I didn't know was on offer as they didn't speak English!
English should be a prerequisite for medical professionals: that's not racism. |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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"What is most scary of all is that he's a damming indictment of the state of other main political parties.
Personally I think its more a damning indictment of the inability of the electorate to be easily swayed by soundbite politics while ignoring the very real consequences of their decisions.
They'll be self appointed bakery judges next. "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Feck off he's a pillock.Nothing like Boris then the pleb
Boris is many things but he is not a pleb.
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No. He's a greedy corrupt dipshit.
See what he's doing to London! |
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Can we not blame society for this one? I mean really, the electorate have a choice, and they vote for this party based on what exactly, populist bollocks from what I have heard.
Oh I do listen to what he has to say, I'm not really arsed about how people say it, more in what they have to say. |
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"What is most scary of all is that he's a damming indictment of the state of other main political parties.
Personally I think its more a damning indictment of the inability of the electorate to be easily swayed by soundbite politics while ignoring the very real consequences of their decisions.
They'll be self appointed bakery judges next.
Ooookayy "
I'm into currant affairs.... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Just seen him get interviewed on a whole host of topics by Murnahan.
Came back with sensible, coherent and answered the questions!. Not like the question dodging and waffling politicians and most of all.. Not reflecting some of the histerical or tory propoganda type comments ive seen about him on here.
just watching the interview now.....
said there was no policies at the moment other than europe... but would be making a few speeches in the next few months
said, we pressed by murnahan there would be cuts (ahem... savings made) to the NHS budget and that medically professionals who's standard of english is poor would be sacked (so around about 10% of nurses for example at the moment) ....
so there is your first nugget of UKIP policy.....
To be fair I struggled to understand the consultant I saw at a recent appointment. I told him I hadn't a clue what he was on about so he got his registrar...couldn't understand him either, it was surreal like a comedy sketch, I'd have laughed if I wasn't so frustrated.
In the end I left, nothing resolved and they wrote to my gp saying I declined treatment! I told my doctor I could hardly decline what I didn't know was on offer as they didn't speak English!
English should be a prerequisite for medical professionals: that's not racism."
Very strange! I find this very hard to believe, that a consultant working in England wouldn't be able to speak in English to a extent where one of his patience wouldn't be able to understand. Fair enough I don't understand scousers to well but can still make out a few words. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"What is most scary of all is that he's a damming indictment of the state of other main political parties.
Personally I think its more a damning indictment of the inability of the electorate to be easily swayed by soundbite politics while ignoring the very real consequences of their decisions.
They'll be self appointed bakery judges next.
Ooookayy
I'm into currant affairs.... "
The right honorable member for Chorleywood? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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There is no doubt that UKIP will spoil the party for the tories and labour but that shows none of them are capable of doing a good job for us! Seems like a babbling buffoon is a qualification needed to become a party leader. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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If you got the gift of the gab you'll go far. Having said that you can fool some of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time. |
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"If you got the gift of the gab you'll go far. Having said that you can fool some of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time. "
Trouble is, sometimes it seems you only need to fool a third of the people for a week or two in order to get elected. And that comment goes equally well with any of them, sadly!
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Just seen him get interviewed on a whole host of topics by Murnahan.
Came back with sensible, coherent and answered the questions!. Not like the question dodging and waffling politicians and most of all.. Not reflecting some of the histerical or tory propoganda type comments ive seen about him on here.
just watching the interview now.....
said there was no policies at the moment other than europe... but would be making a few speeches in the next few months
said, we pressed by murnahan there would be cuts (ahem... savings made) to the NHS budget and that medically professionals who's standard of english is poor would be sacked (so around about 10% of nurses for example at the moment) ....
so there is your first nugget of UKIP policy.....
To be fair I struggled to understand the consultant I saw at a recent appointment. I told him I hadn't a clue what he was on about so he got his registrar...couldn't understand him either, it was surreal like a comedy sketch, I'd have laughed if I wasn't so frustrated.
In the end I left, nothing resolved and they wrote to my gp saying I declined treatment! I told my doctor I could hardly decline what I didn't know was on offer as they didn't speak English!
English should be a prerequisite for medical professionals: that's not racism.
Very strange! I find this very hard to believe, that a consultant working in England wouldn't be able to speak in English to a extent where one of his patience wouldn't be able to understand. Fair enough I don't understand scousers to well but can still make out a few words."
How would you have felt if the scouser you couldn't understand had misrepresented your consultation by informing your GP treatment had been declined rather than the truth, a breakdown in communication ?
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"Just seen him get interviewed on a whole host of topics by Murnahan.
Came back with sensible, coherent and answered the questions!. Not like the question dodging and waffling politicians and most of all.. Not reflecting some of the histerical or tory propoganda type comments ive seen about him on here.
just watching the interview now.....
said there was no policies at the moment other than europe... but would be making a few speeches in the next few months
said, we pressed by murnahan there would be cuts (ahem... savings made) to the NHS budget and that medically professionals who's standard of english is poor would be sacked (so around about 10% of nurses for example at the moment) ....
so there is your first nugget of UKIP policy.....
To be fair I struggled to understand the consultant I saw at a recent appointment. I told him I hadn't a clue what he was on about so he got his registrar...couldn't understand him either, it was surreal like a comedy sketch, I'd have laughed if I wasn't so frustrated.
In the end I left, nothing resolved and they wrote to my gp saying I declined treatment! I told my doctor I could hardly decline what I didn't know was on offer as they didn't speak English!
English should be a prerequisite for medical professionals: that's not racism.
Very strange! I find this very hard to believe, that a consultant working in England wouldn't be able to speak in English to a extent where one of his patience wouldn't be able to understand. Fair enough I don't understand scousers to well but can still make out a few words.
How would you have felt if the scouser you couldn't understand had misrepresented your consultation by informing your GP treatment had been declined rather than the truth, a breakdown in communication ?
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Are you telling me that out of the two people none of them spoke a bit of English? I would also take from this that they would not be able to speak to any other English speaking person??? Being in England off the top of my head Id say 90% would be English speaking patience, how can this be? |
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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago
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"Just seen him get interviewed on a whole host of topics by Murnahan.
Came back with sensible, coherent and answered the questions!. Not like the question dodging and waffling politicians and most of all.. Not reflecting some of the histerical or tory propoganda type comments ive seen about him on here.
just watching the interview now.....
said there was no policies at the moment other than europe... but would be making a few speeches in the next few months
said, we pressed by murnahan there would be cuts (ahem... savings made) to the NHS budget and that medically professionals who's standard of english is poor would be sacked (so around about 10% of nurses for example at the moment) ....
so there is your first nugget of UKIP policy.....
To be fair I struggled to understand the consultant I saw at a recent appointment. I told him I hadn't a clue what he was on about so he got his registrar...couldn't understand him either, it was surreal like a comedy sketch, I'd have laughed if I wasn't so frustrated.
In the end I left, nothing resolved and they wrote to my gp saying I declined treatment! I told my doctor I could hardly decline what I didn't know was on offer as they didn't speak English!
English should be a prerequisite for medical professionals: that's not racism.
Very strange! I find this very hard to believe, that a consultant working in England wouldn't be able to speak in English to a extent where one of his patience wouldn't be able to understand. Fair enough I don't understand scousers to well but can still make out a few words.
How would you have felt if the scouser you couldn't understand had misrepresented your consultation by informing your GP treatment had been declined rather than the truth, a breakdown in communication ?
Are you telling me that out of the two people none of them spoke a bit of English? I would also take from this that they would not be able to speak to any other English speaking person??? Being in England off the top of my head Id say 90% would be English speaking patience, how can this be? "
Are you suggesting that someone on an anonymous forum might actually make up a story to support their point of view?? OMG?? How very dare you.......  |
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"Just seen him get interviewed on a whole host of topics by Murnahan.
Came back with sensible, coherent and answered the questions!. Not like the question dodging and waffling politicians and most of all.. Not reflecting some of the histerical or tory propoganda type comments ive seen about him on here.
just watching the interview now.....
said there was no policies at the moment other than europe... but would be making a few speeches in the next few months
said, we pressed by murnahan there would be cuts (ahem... savings made) to the NHS budget and that medically professionals who's standard of english is poor would be sacked (so around about 10% of nurses for example at the moment) ....
so there is your first nugget of UKIP policy.....
To be fair I struggled to understand the consultant I saw at a recent appointment. I told him I hadn't a clue what he was on about so he got his registrar...couldn't understand him either, it was surreal like a comedy sketch, I'd have laughed if I wasn't so frustrated.
In the end I left, nothing resolved and they wrote to my gp saying I declined treatment! I told my doctor I could hardly decline what I didn't know was on offer as they didn't speak English!
English should be a prerequisite for medical professionals: that's not racism.
Very strange! I find this very hard to believe, that a consultant working in England wouldn't be able to speak in English to a extent where one of his patience wouldn't be able to understand. Fair enough I don't understand scousers to well but can still make out a few words."
I can assure I'm not making this up and I'm a child of immigrants! As I said it was almost comical, especially when he got the other doctor who was as bad as him!
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"Just seen him get interviewed on a whole host of topics by Murnahan.
Came back with sensible, coherent and answered the questions!. Not like the question dodging and waffling politicians and most of all.. Not reflecting some of the histerical or tory propoganda type comments ive seen about him on here.
just watching the interview now.....
said there was no policies at the moment other than europe... but would be making a few speeches in the next few months
said, we pressed by murnahan there would be cuts (ahem... savings made) to the NHS budget and that medically professionals who's standard of english is poor would be sacked (so around about 10% of nurses for example at the moment) ....
so there is your first nugget of UKIP policy.....
To be fair I struggled to understand the consultant I saw at a recent appointment. I told him I hadn't a clue what he was on about so he got his registrar...couldn't understand him either, it was surreal like a comedy sketch, I'd have laughed if I wasn't so frustrated.
In the end I left, nothing resolved and they wrote to my gp saying I declined treatment! I told my doctor I could hardly decline what I didn't know was on offer as they didn't speak English!
English should be a prerequisite for medical professionals: that's not racism.
Very strange! I find this very hard to believe, that a consultant working in England wouldn't be able to speak in English to a extent where one of his patience wouldn't be able to understand. Fair enough I don't understand scousers to well but can still make out a few words.
I can assure I'm not making this up and I'm a child of immigrants! As I said it was almost comical, especially when he got the other doctor who was as bad as him!
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If you're unable to understand your nurse/doctor you have the legal right to have a translator present. A medical professional using the wrong, or incomprehensible language is no different to them using the wrong piece of medical equipment, or giving you the wrong drug. It is simply unacceptable and you should have complained to PALS. |
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"Just seen him get interviewed on a whole host of topics by Murnahan.
Came back with sensible, coherent and answered the questions!. Not like the question dodging and waffling politicians and most of all.. Not reflecting some of the histerical or tory propoganda type comments ive seen about him on here.
just watching the interview now.....
said there was no policies at the moment other than europe... but would be making a few speeches in the next few months
said, we pressed by murnahan there would be cuts (ahem... savings made) to the NHS budget and that medically professionals who's standard of english is poor would be sacked (so around about 10% of nurses for example at the moment) ....
so there is your first nugget of UKIP policy.....
To be fair I struggled to understand the consultant I saw at a recent appointment. I told him I hadn't a clue what he was on about so he got his registrar...couldn't understand him either, it was surreal like a comedy sketch, I'd have laughed if I wasn't so frustrated.
In the end I left, nothing resolved and they wrote to my gp saying I declined treatment! I told my doctor I could hardly decline what I didn't know was on offer as they didn't speak English!
English should be a prerequisite for medical professionals: that's not racism.
Very strange! I find this very hard to believe, that a consultant working in England wouldn't be able to speak in English to a extent where one of his patience wouldn't be able to understand. Fair enough I don't understand scousers to well but can still make out a few words.
I can assure I'm not making this up and I'm a child of immigrants! As I said it was almost comical, especially when he got the other doctor who was as bad as him!
If you're unable to understand your nurse/doctor you have the legal right to have a translator present. A medical professional using the wrong, or incomprehensible language is no different to them using the wrong piece of medical equipment, or giving you the wrong drug. It is simply unacceptable and you should have complained to PALS. "
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You should have a legal right to a health care professional who can speak coherently in the language of the country they work in. "
Sadly, the white knights' power at the moment is such that many will probably die due to misunderstanding vital medical information before this problem is looked at. Until then, anyone questioning a foreign clinician's poor use of English will be branded a racist. |
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"Just seen him get interviewed on a whole host of topics by Murnahan.
Came back with sensible, coherent and answered the questions!. Not like the question dodging and waffling politicians and most of all.. Not reflecting some of the histerical or tory propoganda type comments ive seen about him on here.
just watching the interview now.....
said there was no policies at the moment other than europe... but would be making a few speeches in the next few months
said, we pressed by murnahan there would be cuts (ahem... savings made) to the NHS budget and that medically professionals who's standard of english is poor would be sacked (so around about 10% of nurses for example at the moment) ....
so there is your first nugget of UKIP policy.....
To be fair I struggled to understand the consultant I saw at a recent appointment. I told him I hadn't a clue what he was on about so he got his registrar...couldn't understand him either, it was surreal like a comedy sketch, I'd have laughed if I wasn't so frustrated.
In the end I left, nothing resolved and they wrote to my gp saying I declined treatment! I told my doctor I could hardly decline what I didn't know was on offer as they didn't speak English!
English should be a prerequisite for medical professionals: that's not racism.
Very strange! I find this very hard to believe, that a consultant working in England wouldn't be able to speak in English to a extent where one of his patience wouldn't be able to understand. Fair enough I don't understand scousers to well but can still make out a few words.
I can assure I'm not making this up and I'm a child of immigrants! As I said it was almost comical, especially when he got the other doctor who was as bad as him!
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I am not at all suggestion your making this up, but this situation can cause loss of life so I would think it's your moral obligation to report this or complain. And where I'm confused is that what about all the other people that are seeing this consultant? This consultant and his sidekick have the potential to be very dangerous. |
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You should have a legal right to a health care professional who can speak coherently in the language of the country they work in.
Sadly, the white knights' power at the moment is such that many will probably die due to misunderstanding vital medical information before this problem is looked at. Until then, anyone questioning a foreign clinician's poor use of English will be branded a racist. "
Everytime I'm at the doctors waiting room and my name gets called. I always hear remarks like "how come they get seen first" is it really white peoples mentality that Asians can que jump? I wish lol |
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Everytime I'm at the doctors waiting room and my name gets called. I always hear remarks like "how come they get seen first" is it really white peoples mentality that Asians can que jump? I wish lol"
That's a very racist generalisation. Do you think it's ok for you to say it because you're Asian? |
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You should have a legal right to a health care professional who can speak coherently in the language of the country they work in.
Sadly, the white knights' power at the moment is such that many will probably die due to misunderstanding vital medical information before this problem is looked at. Until then, anyone questioning a foreign clinician's poor use of English will be branded a racist.
Everytime I'm at the doctors waiting room and my name gets called. I always hear remarks like "how come they get seen first" is it really white peoples mentality that Asians can que jump? I wish lol"
I've never heard that. Ever. You must have been very unlucky. |
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"Just seen him get interviewed on a whole host of topics by Murnahan.
Came back with sensible, coherent and answered the questions!. Not like the question dodging and waffling politicians and most of all.. Not reflecting some of the histerical or tory propoganda type comments ive seen about him on here.
just watching the interview now.....
said there was no policies at the moment other than europe... but would be making a few speeches in the next few months
said, we pressed by murnahan there would be cuts (ahem... savings made) to the NHS budget and that medically professionals who's standard of english is poor would be sacked (so around about 10% of nurses for example at the moment) ....
so there is your first nugget of UKIP policy.....
To be fair I struggled to understand the consultant I saw at a recent appointment. I told him I hadn't a clue what he was on about so he got his registrar...couldn't understand him either, it was surreal like a comedy sketch, I'd have laughed if I wasn't so frustrated.
In the end I left, nothing resolved and they wrote to my gp saying I declined treatment! I told my doctor I could hardly decline what I didn't know was on offer as they didn't speak English!
English should be a prerequisite for medical professionals: that's not racism.
Very strange! I find this very hard to believe, that a consultant working in England wouldn't be able to speak in English to a extent where one of his patience wouldn't be able to understand. Fair enough I don't understand scousers to well but can still make out a few words.
How would you have felt if the scouser you couldn't understand had misrepresented your consultation by informing your GP treatment had been declined rather than the truth, a breakdown in communication ?
Are you telling me that out of the two people none of them spoke a bit of English? I would also take from this that they would not be able to speak to any other English speaking person??? Being in England off the top of my head Id say 90% would be English speaking patience, how can this be? "
I know from my own personal experience that this does indeed happen.
My doctor of near twenty years retired and was replaced with an Asian female doctor, during my visit I could not understand what she was trying to tell me, I took the prescription and left.
Before leaving the surgery I spoke with reception informing them of my difficulty, I was informed that others had made the same complaint and that they (receptionist) could not understand her. Weeks later this doctor had been replaced.
As to your suggestion that people should eventually find a person that could translate. It can be embarrassing speaking with the doctor about you health issue, I'm not going to cause myself further embarrassment involving others unnecessarily. |
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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago
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"The guy can babble on all he likes. Hes not governing the country..its easy to say things that you think people want to hear . The mans a buffoon..his party with there views will never ever be elected "
And what are their views or policies? |
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"Just seen him get interviewed on a whole host of topics by Murnahan.
Came back with sensible, coherent and answered the questions!. Not like the question dodging and waffling politicians and most of all.. Not reflecting some of the histerical or tory propoganda type comments ive seen about him on here. "
Just look at this clip here of Tory MP Paul Uppal, typical of how Lib/Lab/Con MP's regularly dodge or refuse to answer simple straight forward questions. Its been in the news that labour party activists have been told to change the subject when asked on the doorstep about immigration. By contrast Doug Carswell in the clip and Nigel Farage on the whole answer questions in a straight forward manner and talk common sense ordinary folk can relate to. The kind of behaviour demonstrated in this clip by Paul Uppal is exactly the kind of behaviour that annoys the public.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnrggQ07D3w |
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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago
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"Just seen him get interviewed on a whole host of topics by Murnahan.
Came back with sensible, coherent and answered the questions!. Not like the question dodging and waffling politicians and most of all.. Not reflecting some of the histerical or tory propoganda type comments ive seen about him on here.
just watching the interview now.....
said there was no policies at the moment other than europe... but would be making a few speeches in the next few months
said, we pressed by murnahan there would be cuts (ahem... savings made) to the NHS budget and that medically professionals who's standard of english is poor would be sacked (so around about 10% of nurses for example at the moment) ....
so there is your first nugget of UKIP policy.....
Scary "
I was once treated by someone with a poor standard of english...there was a definite communication problem... was prescribed the wrong drugs and ended up very ill in hospital.... |
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"Just seen him get interviewed on a whole host of topics by Murnahan.
Came back with sensible, coherent and answered the questions!. Not like the question dodging and waffling politicians and most of all.. Not reflecting some of the histerical or tory propoganda type comments ive seen about him on here.
Just look at this clip here of Tory MP Paul Uppal, typical of how Lib/Lab/Con MP's regularly dodge or refuse to answer simple straight forward questions. Its been in the news that labour party activists have been told to change the subject when asked on the doorstep about immigration. By contrast Doug Carswell in the clip and Nigel Farage on the whole answer questions in a straight forward manner and talk common sense ordinary folk can relate to. The kind of behaviour demonstrated in this clip by Paul Uppal is exactly the kind of behaviour that annoys the public.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnrggQ07D3w"
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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago
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"Just seen him get interviewed on a whole host of topics by Murnahan.
Came back with sensible, coherent and answered the questions!. Not like the question dodging and waffling politicians and most of all.. Not reflecting some of the histerical or tory propoganda type comments ive seen about him on here.
just watching the interview now.....
said there was no policies at the moment other than europe... but would be making a few speeches in the next few months
said, we pressed by murnahan there would be cuts (ahem... savings made) to the NHS budget and that medically professionals who's standard of english is poor would be sacked (so around about 10% of nurses for example at the moment) ....
so there is your first nugget of UKIP policy.....
To be fair I struggled to understand the consultant I saw at a recent appointment. I told him I hadn't a clue what he was on about so he got his registrar...couldn't understand him either, it was surreal like a comedy sketch, I'd have laughed if I wasn't so frustrated.
In the end I left, nothing resolved and they wrote to my gp saying I declined treatment! I told my doctor I could hardly decline what I didn't know was on offer as they didn't speak English!
English should be a prerequisite for medical professionals: that's not racism.
Very strange! I find this very hard to believe, that a consultant working in England wouldn't be able to speak in English to a extent where one of his patience wouldn't be able to understand. Fair enough I don't understand scousers to well but can still make out a few words.
How would you have felt if the scouser you couldn't understand had misrepresented your consultation by informing your GP treatment had been declined rather than the truth, a breakdown in communication ?
Are you telling me that out of the two people none of them spoke a bit of English? I would also take from this that they would not be able to speak to any other English speaking person??? Being in England off the top of my head Id say 90% would be English speaking patience, how can this be?
I know from my own personal experience that this does indeed happen.
My doctor of near twenty years retired and was replaced with an Asian female doctor, during my visit I could not understand what she was trying to tell me, I took the prescription and left.
Before leaving the surgery I spoke with reception informing them of my difficulty, I was informed that others had made the same complaint and that they (receptionist) could not understand her. Weeks later this doctor had been replaced.
As to your suggestion that people should eventually find a person that could translate. It can be embarrassing speaking with the doctor about you health issue, I'm not going to cause myself further embarrassment involving others unnecessarily. "
I once had to take an English exam, 20 minutes of it was conversational... the person testing me was 1st generation asian, I had great difficulty understanding her, to the point that I thought I had failed...
When I asked about this, I was told it was because the exam I was taking was the same exam for immigrants into the UK, and they understand 'Asian English' better.... go figure that one... |
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You should have a legal right to a health care professional who can speak coherently in the language of the country they work in.
Sadly, the white knights' power at the moment is such that many will probably die due to misunderstanding vital medical information before this problem is looked at. Until then, anyone questioning a foreign clinician's poor use of English will be branded a racist.
Everytime I'm at the doctors waiting room and my name gets called. I always hear remarks like "how come they get seen first" is it really white peoples mentality that Asians can que jump? I wish lol
I've never heard that. Ever. You must have been very unlucky."
Around my area it's very common. Most White ppl seem to have a bee in there bonnet about Asians mainly Asian Muslims but because we are Indian we get caught up in the cross fire. In the 60s it was the blacks 70s and 80s the Irish now it's the Asians turns, but looking at things the future in England is looking colourful so maybe Mr Farage and co has got something to worry about. |
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Before anyone gets on there high horse, I have White friends, my kids are mixed race, just before some throw the race card out *yawns* and what's this Asian English? Never heard of that language before? I think someone's had a few to many. |
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"Before anyone gets on there high horse, I have White friends, my kids are mixed race, just before some throw the race card out *yawns* and what's this Asian English? Never heard of that language before? I think someone's had a few to many. "
Who mentionned "race"?
Well i never. |
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What a choice...."Call me Dave" (Eton Pillock), The Ed Miller Band (Never liked his singing voice), Nick "I may keep a promise next time" Clegg (Clueless twat) and Nigel "I am not racist, I just want a ban on anyone else who isn't British"Farage (Married to a German and is still allied to the City of London)
God/Allah/Other (insert deity here) help us
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Just seen him get interviewed on a whole host of topics by Murnahan.
Came back with sensible, coherent and answered the questions!. Not like the question dodging and waffling politicians and most of all.. Not reflecting some of the histerical or tory propoganda type comments ive seen about him on here.
safe to assume your a fan so hardly an objective view..
its not only some of the 'tories' on here who don't 'like him', many folks dont across the board..
its nothing personal as lets be honest none of us even die hard ukippers actually know him..
its what he represents politically and that those of the far right are attracted to that, the bigots and intolerant as exhibited on here by some.."
actually, no it isnt safe for you to assume.. All i said was he doesnt waffle and dodge questions which is refreshing. Yes i agree with you in opposition things can be said without recourse, i listen to all politicians to hear what they say.. Even force myself to hear cameron's views. That way i hear what they say and not what othere peolpe say what he/she said. |
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"He does come across well tbh but his parties policies or rather views are abhorrent "
depends where you heard the views. If it was directly from him then i would agree with you.
The problem i see is that others give out second hand opinions of what others said or interperated second hand hearsay so cannot hardly be accurate.
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"What a choice...."Call me Dave" (Eton Pillock), The Ed Miller Band (Never liked his singing voice), Nick "I may keep a promise next time" Clegg (Clueless twat) and Nigel "I am not racist, I just want a ban on anyone else who isn't British"Farage (Married to a German and is still allied to the City of London)
God/Allah/Other (insert deity here) help us
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well yes they all are dodgy.. Just out of curiosity, hows he against foreigners if he married a german?
Btw cleggs a spineless trecherous git! So disapointed in him.. Just my opinion
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You should have a legal right to a health care professional who can speak coherently in the language of the country they work in.
Sadly, the white knights' power at the moment is such that many will probably die due to misunderstanding vital medical information before this problem is looked at. Until then, anyone questioning a foreign clinician's poor use of English will be branded a racist.
Everytime I'm at the doctors waiting room and my name gets called. I always hear remarks like "how come they get seen first" is it really white peoples mentality that Asians can que jump? I wish lol"
Blimy how often do you have up go to the Dr's? And are you really Asian? Or are you British? If you weren't born in Asia, then you're just as bad as Farage! |
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You should have a legal right to a health care professional who can speak coherently in the language of the country they work in.
Sadly, the white knights' power at the moment is such that many will probably die due to misunderstanding vital medical information before this problem is looked at. Until then, anyone questioning a foreign clinician's poor use of English will be branded a racist.
Everytime I'm at the doctors waiting room and my name gets called. I always hear remarks like "how come they get seen first" is it really white peoples mentality that Asians can que jump? I wish lol
I've never heard that. Ever. You must have been very unlucky.
Around my area it's very common. Most White ppl seem to have a bee in there bonnet about Asians mainly Asian Muslims but because we are Indian we get caught up in the cross fire. In the 60s it was the blacks 70s and 80s the Irish now it's the Asians turns, but looking at things the future in England is looking colourful so maybe Mr Farage and co has got something to worry about."
You really have been very very unfortunate. I have not experienced any of that at all anywhere. You paint a picture that I just don't recognise.
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Around my area it's very common. Most White ppl seem to have a bee in there bonnet about Asians mainly Asian Muslims but because we are Indian we get caught up in the cross fire. In the 60s it was the blacks 70s and 80s the Irish now it's the Asians turns, but looking at things the future in England is looking colourful so maybe Mr Farage and co has got something to worry about."
Yes, but most Asian people are liars, so your second sentence is probably a lie.
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Did you feel offended by my statement? You should do - I would if a generalised derogatory statement based on my race or culture was made by somebody not of my race or culture with no evidence or proof to back it up. But that's what you did, wasn't it?
"Most White ppl seem to have a bee in there bonnet about Asians"
I'm white, and there are no bees in my bonnet about medical care priorities, nor do any of my white friends or colleagues - I believe in the NHS triage system which treats people in order of medical need. The white knights often forget that the principles of "equality" are still quite pertinent to the race issue. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"Just seen him get interviewed on a whole host of topics by Murnahan.
Came back with sensible, coherent and answered the questions!. Not like the question dodging and waffling politicians and most of all.. Not reflecting some of the histerical or tory propoganda type comments ive seen about him on here. "
since you threw the grenade in .... I'll throw one back at you...
since you obviously watched the interview... you would know the majority of it was about the NHS and spending levels....
the conservatives would "ringfence" NHS spending at present levels... as was said and agreed in the interview...
the labour party would increase NHS spending from present levels.... as was said and agreed in the interview....
and when asked what UKIP's Position was on NHS Spending, Farage said they would cut NHS spending... and make savings...
so do YOU agree with UKIP Policy????? |
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Race and immigration always seem t get tangled together.
It's not about race. There's black, asian and other races who are uk citizens who will also be effected by policies made.
I've overheard ethnic minorities say its going to far, plus a muslim guy who was annoyed about some council saying to call christmas a winter holiday.. He was trying to explain he wasnt offended calling it christmas and getting frustrated. |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Don't you just love it when people say Farage talks 'common sense' when they simply mean they agree with his views.
No that is not true,it is he does not hsve political dogma of the tory and labour parties
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"The man talks sense, just most people in this country don't want to listen
If you know that you dont have a hope in hell of being elected to govern you can come out with populist talk. "I want my country back," is a perfect example of a somewhat simplistic soundbyte that appeals very much to those who dont want to think too much about politics and just need someone to cheer.
Unfortunately Milliband and Cameron have to answer difficult policy related questions that Farage said he would "announce in a series of speeches."
Unfortunately, real politics is a bit more difficult when you have to be accountable."
I don't mean to sound flippant, but when has any government ever been truly accountable? They just wait ten years for everything to blow over and come back when all is forgotten ( in actual fact its when the other lot fuck up but in their own sweet day). Farage knows he won't get in power, it wouldn't surprise me if its not the far right of the Tory party using him like supermarkets use loss leaders. |
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