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Wheeler Dealers or Top Gear???
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I don't normally watch television much but this is one programme I look forwards too. Mike Brewer and Mr Ed China. I much prefer this to Top Gear I know there two different types of programmes but who agrees? |
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"Addicted to wheeler deelers but like top gear don't know what I would do without discovery and history channels got my wife into gold rush as well "
Used to be addicted to deadliest catch when i had sky tv. I've now switched over to BT vision and don't get Discovery or history channels anymore. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Yep love to see old cars from childhood being restored. I was watching one the other day when they were restoring a Audi Quattro GT wow what a car, always wanted one when I was younger  |
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By *ipsTeaserCouple
over a year ago
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"It annoys me on WD that they don't account for labour costs.
If they were included, they'd lose money on virtually every deal."
They don't include labour as their profit is the labour costs, just like if you had done the work
Bugs |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It annoys me on WD that they don't account for labour costs.
If they were included, they'd lose money on virtually every deal.
They don't include labour as their profit is the labour costs, just like if you had done the work
Bugs"
If there is no money in it and you aren't gonna keep the car, why do it ?
Seems a hell of a lot of effort for zero return, unless of course you enjoy doing cars up for the fun if it.
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By *ipsTeaserCouple
over a year ago
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"It annoys me on WD that they don't account for labour costs.
If they were included, they'd lose money on virtually every deal.
They don't include labour as their profit is the labour costs, just like if you had done the work
Bugs
If there is no money in it and you aren't gonna keep the car, why do it ?
Seems a hell of a lot of effort for zero return, unless of course you enjoy doing cars up for the fun if it.
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Some cars you will make a few pounds, others will make a lot. My mates so this and if I was still at home, I'd be doing it. The profit being the wage
Bugs |
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By *ipsTeaserCouple
over a year ago
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"I like Wheeler Dealers. I like most things to do with engineering.
I even like that vet character who restores bikes and cars and builds planes and helicopters."
Mark Evans. Loved the stuff he did.
Bugs |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It annoys me on WD that they don't account for labour costs.
If they were included, they'd lose money on virtually every deal.
They don't include labour as their profit is the labour costs, just like if you had done the work
Bugs
If there is no money in it and you aren't gonna keep the car, why do it ?
Seems a hell of a lot of effort for zero return, unless of course you enjoy doing cars up for the fun if it.
Some cars you will make a few pounds, others will make a lot. My mates so this and if I was still at home, I'd be doing it. The profit being the wage
Bugs"
But I thought the little guy employed the tall one ?
Or do they share the proceeds ?
If a mechanic can earn £30 to £40k a year for example, you'd have to turn a hell of a lot of motors over to make an equal amount doing this instead.
I do like the programme btw |
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By *ipsTeaserCouple
over a year ago
here and there, thereabouts |
"It annoys me on WD that they don't account for labour costs.
If they were included, they'd lose money on virtually every deal.
They don't include labour as their profit is the labour costs, just like if you had done the work
Bugs
If there is no money in it and you aren't gonna keep the car, why do it ?
Seems a hell of a lot of effort for zero return, unless of course you enjoy doing cars up for the fun if it.
Some cars you will make a few pounds, others will make a lot. My mates so this and if I was still at home, I'd be doing it. The profit being the wage
Bugs
But I thought the little guy employed the tall one ?
Or do they share the proceeds ?
If a mechanic can earn £30 to £40k a year for example, you'd have to turn a hell of a lot of motors over to make an equal amount doing this instead.
I do like the programme btw "
They share the profit. This is about buying cheap and selling high. Mechanics are different in that sense of the word s they charge an hourly rate for doing a job, service for example. Rather than buy one car and do 10 thinks to it, a mechanic will do 5 things to 5 different cars but never sell them. The wheeler dealer is more like the home mechanics and all about buying, fixing and selling the cars. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It annoys me on WD that they don't account for labour costs.
If they were included, they'd lose money on virtually every deal.
They don't include labour as their profit is the labour costs, just like if you had done the work
Bugs
If there is no money in it and you aren't gonna keep the car, why do it ?
Seems a hell of a lot of effort for zero return, unless of course you enjoy doing cars up for the fun if it.
Some cars you will make a few pounds, others will make a lot. My mates so this and if I was still at home, I'd be doing it. The profit being the wage
Bugs
But I thought the little guy employed the tall one ?
Or do they share the proceeds ?
If a mechanic can earn £30 to £40k a year for example, you'd have to turn a hell of a lot of motors over to make an equal amount doing this instead.
I do like the programme btw
They share the profit. This is about buying cheap and selling high. Mechanics are different in that sense of the word s they charge an hourly rate for doing a job, service for example. Rather than buy one car and do 10 thinks to it, a mechanic will do 5 things to 5 different cars but never sell them. The wheeler dealer is more like the home mechanics and all about buying, fixing and selling the cars. "
Are the profits that high that they can sustain 2 mens wages though.
So if 2 guys are in it, could they easily net 60 to 80k a year (between them) after their outgoings ?
At £2,000 a car, that's 40 cars a year or 1 about every 10 days.
Is that achievable ?
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By *ipsTeaserCouple
over a year ago
here and there, thereabouts |
"It annoys me on WD that they don't account for labour costs.
If they were included, they'd lose money on virtually every deal.
They don't include labour as their profit is the labour costs, just like if you had done the work
Bugs
If there is no money in it and you aren't gonna keep the car, why do it ?
Seems a hell of a lot of effort for zero return, unless of course you enjoy doing cars up for the fun if it.
Some cars you will make a few pounds, others will make a lot. My mates so this and if I was still at home, I'd be doing it. The profit being the wage
Bugs
But I thought the little guy employed the tall one ?
Or do they share the proceeds ?
If a mechanic can earn £30 to £40k a year for example, you'd have to turn a hell of a lot of motors over to make an equal amount doing this instead.
I do like the programme btw
They share the profit. This is about buying cheap and selling high. Mechanics are different in that sense of the word s they charge an hourly rate for doing a job, service for example. Rather than buy one car and do 10 thinks to it, a mechanic will do 5 things to 5 different cars but never sell them. The wheeler dealer is more like the home mechanics and all about buying, fixing and selling the cars.
Are the profits that high that they can sustain 2 mens wages though.
So if 2 guys are in it, could they easily net 60 to 80k a year (between them) after their outgoings ?
At £2,000 a car, that's 40 cars a year or 1 about every 10 days.
Is that achievable ?
See what you've started now ? "
Getting the cars at the right price would be difficult to maintain it. You're more likely to do half a dozen cars making 5k profit, or run a high turnover low profit model as a second job. I'd love to do it and if I was back home in Manc I would be with my mates |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I don't normally watch television much but this is one programme I look forwards too. Mike Brewer and Mr Ed China. I much prefer this to Top Gear I know there two different types of programmes but who agrees?"
Love my engineering so I prefare wheeler dealers just not keen on mr brewer |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Getting the cars at the right price would be difficult to maintain it. You're more likely to do half a dozen cars making 5k profit, or run a high turnover low profit model as a second job. I'd love to do it and if I was back home in Manc I would be with my mates"
Thank you for satisfying my curiosity |
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By *ipsTeaserCouple
over a year ago
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"Top Gear is fifty per cent silly, and I do think they need to add a female presenter to tone down the laddiness. I still watch it though.
I also enjoy car SOS on More4. Try it"
Car SOS is ace especially when Fuzz is either converted as a fan of what they're doing our just gets one up on Tim. Loved the RS episodes.
I don't think TG needs a lass though, fifth gear has VBH (yes please  ) but don't think TG needs a female influence, if they got it wrong, it would spoil the format I think |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Love my engineering so I prefare wheeler dealers just not keen on mr brewer "
I think the mans a idiot tbh, Ed does all the work
Anyone watch Overhaulin? |
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By *ipsTeaserCouple
over a year ago
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"Love my engineering so I prefare wheeler dealers just not keen on mr brewer
I think the mans a idiot tbh, Ed does all the work
Anyone watch Overhaulin?"
Not in a while as its all been repeated everytime I've put it on but love all the subtle stuff that chip does. |
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By *oddamnCouple
over a year ago
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Agree 100% on the RS cosworth car SOS.
However top gear is stagnant and needs something. VBH is the obvious choice, but Susie Wolff might work too. Or have Victoria Coren bossing them about. She could boss me around anytime  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Not in a while as its all been repeated everytime I've put it on but love all the subtle stuff that chip does."
Agreed, They do keep repeating season 1 but season 2 has not long started (or I have only just noticed)
Hex |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It annoys me on WD that they don't account for labour costs.
If they were included, they'd lose money on virtually every deal."
the whole point of the programme is that Edd doesn't have labour costs. He represents a DIY mechanic doing the jobs himself. On lots of the jobs he tells you how much money you'd pay for a pro to do it. |
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By *ipsTeaserCouple
over a year ago
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"Agree 100% on the RS cosworth car SOS.
However top gear is stagnant and needs something. VBH is the obvious choice, but Susie Wolff might work too. Or have Victoria Coren bossing them about. She could boss me around anytime "
Sabine Schmidt seems to do well .... Loved the sierra and the RS1600 |
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"It annoys me on WD that they don't account for labour costs.
If they were included, they'd lose money on virtually every deal.
They don't include labour as their profit is the labour costs, just like if you had done the work
Bugs
If there is no money in it and you aren't gonna keep the car, why do it ?
Seems a hell of a lot of effort for zero return, unless of course you enjoy doing cars up for the fun if it.
Some cars you will make a few pounds, others will make a lot. My mates so this and if I was still at home, I'd be doing it. The profit being the wage
Bugs
But I thought the little guy employed the tall one ?
Or do they share the proceeds ?
If a mechanic can earn £30 to £40k a year for example, you'd have to turn a hell of a lot of motors over to make an equal amount doing this instead.
I do like the programme btw
They share the profit. This is about buying cheap and selling high. Mechanics are different in that sense of the word s they charge an hourly rate for doing a job, service for example. Rather than buy one car and do 10 thinks to it, a mechanic will do 5 things to 5 different cars but never sell them. The wheeler dealer is more like the home mechanics and all about buying, fixing and selling the cars.
Are the profits that high that they can sustain 2 mens wages though.
So if 2 guys are in it, could they easily net 60 to 80k a year (between them) after their outgoings ?
At £2,000 a car, that's 40 cars a year or 1 about every 10 days.
Is that achievable ?
See what you've started now ? "
The actual profit is selling the tv show to the discovery channel.
The theme of the show, i.e flipping cars is just another production cost.
At least the cars usually pay for themselves, so it is actually a pretty cheap show to make, except for the ones where he buys cars from America! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I do enjoy Top Gear, but it is becoming staid. The Top Gear special to Patagonia was very dull. In a lot of ways, I would like it to go back to a proper car show rather than a comedy show.
I do like Wheeler Dealers, they have brought some very nice cars back to life.
Fast'n'Loud is my fav car related show at the moment.
Car SOS is a great show, I really like Fuzz and he really seems to have an eye for detail.
Counting Cars has some great hot rods.
Chip Foose does some beautiful cars on OverHaulin.
Fifth Gear is OK, but I cant stand VBH.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I like both programs, but prefer tg. Being in the motor trade I find wheeler dealers is far to set up. Never known so many old cars that come apart so easily
And someone needs to tell Ed that tee shirts go under jumpers, not on top ! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It annoys me on WD that they don't account for labour costs.
If they were included, they'd lose money on virtually every deal.
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If you read their web page it says that Ed plays the part of a home mechanic and carries out the kinds of jobs that many of us could do at home in our garages. They send the specialist jobs out to other companies and include those costs at the end. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Saw top gear where they travelled through India, a rolls royce, a mini, And a jaguar xj6 with a austin allegro Has a follow up car, at the end they Had Their 3 cars mounted on plinths over looking the mountain ranges between China and India thinking about it afterwards those cars would soon start Turning to rusting hulks surely was a Set up for the finale..  never know what to believe now days on Tv..  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Top Gear presenters just prat about , some tech. Info on cars is ok ish.. But think their top gear specials are just them arsing about.
Wheeler dealers is a lot more sensible and dont talk nonsensical shite.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Top Gear presenters just prat about , some tech. Info on cars is ok ish.. But think their top gear specials are just them arsing about.
Wheeler dealers is a lot more sensible and dont talk nonsensical shite.. "
BREWER DOES. Would never buy a car a bloke who makes himself look as thick as he does. And all that crap about the world second hand car market dealing in dollars. What a load of bollox |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Top Gear presenters just prat about , some tech. Info on cars is ok ish.. But think their top gear specials are just them arsing about.
Wheeler dealers is a lot more sensible and dont talk nonsensical shite.. I saw my first programme on Wheeler dealers on guest tv? I think, It was on this last week one gets a car for a Good deal and thee other guy converts it I,m sure it was a porsche They converted, took all the carpets out, new shock absorbers 4 of them at £500 each (they have to work to a budget) and also putting in a roll
cage around the drivers seat after Quite a bit of renervation Along with Some welding Involved they did go over Their budget in the end but they got All their costs back after the sale of The car to be used specifically on a Raceing track.. "
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By *ipsTeaserCouple
over a year ago
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"Ed China is the man. I'd love his knowledge on cars
I would have thought he had a lot of experts on hand in case he got stuck with anything. "
Google as well me thinks. No doubt he knows a lot but when Mike brings his shed back he googles for known issues and common faults/fixes. If not him the researchers do |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Ed China is the man. I'd love his knowledge on cars
I would have thought he had a lot of experts on hand in case he got stuck with anything.
Google as well me thinks. No doubt he knows a lot but when Mike brings his shed back he googles for known issues and common faults/fixes. If not him the researchers do"
Lol and who knows while Eds googling for car issues/parts Mr brewer is proberly on Fabswingers tbh I did come across a profile that said "why have a Fiesta when you can have a Rolls" and stuff like "been around a bit but plenty of miles left on the clock" the kind of things Mike says so now we know what he gets up to with that laptop his always on |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I cringe watching WD Ed comes out see with so much crap, watch the one when they buy a Suzuki jeep. Change the engine, all the suspension, axels, weld in a Roll cage to the chassis then find out when they take it for an MOT the chassis is rotten, wtf expert my ass |
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I just googled edd china. He owns a company that manufactures novelty vehicles - did you know that he built the double decker cars for top gear?
He also holds the land speed record for the fastest sofa...92 mph lol
He has a degree in engineering so I would say he does know his stuff. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Wheeler dealers for me. Top gear is too set up now. There running out of ideas and it gets worse and worse each series.
Although saying that im noticing it with wheeler dealers now too |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ed China is the man. I'd love his knowledge on cars
I would have thought he had a lot of experts on hand in case he got stuck with anything.
Google as well me thinks. No doubt he knows a lot but when Mike brings his shed back he googles for known issues and common faults/fixes. If not him the researchers do"
Edd is a fairly familiar face on various car forums, often getting advice on fixes for common faults on the cars he and Mike are working on.
It's also worth mentioning that Mike Brewer is also an excellent mechanic, something that's not mentioned on the show at all. |
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