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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

According to the Times. Thoughts?

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By *icketysplitsWoman over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

This was a story three days ago but it's old news now.

The interesting bit was the comparisons made to Oswald Mosley getting the same title from the Times. That and the protests made to The Times.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Time Magazine Man of the Year 1938 : Adolf Hitler

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Time Magazine Man of the Year 1938 : Adolf Hitler "

You were Time's person of the year in 2006. Go you.

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By *evaquitCouple over a year ago

Catthorpe

"Time Magazine Man of the Year 1938 : Adolf Hitler "

Ha! Beat me to it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Nigel farage just what this country needs !!!!!!!!!!!!!! People are scared of the ukip so they go on about racism ??? Check the votes the party gets ?? Getting more popular by the day xxx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Time Magazine Man of the Year 1938 : Adolf Hitler "

Kinda says it all really

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Hitler before 1939 ? What a great leader !!!

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By *its_n_piecesCouple over a year ago

"Nigel farage just what this country needs !!!!!!!!!!!!!! People are scared of the ukip so they go on about racism ??? Check the votes the party gets ?? Getting more popular by the day xxx"

all that means is there are more folks admitting to being racist

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Hitler before 1939 ? What a great leader !!!"

I beg to differ.

Strong leader, yes

Great leader, no

There is a difference

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Hitler before 1939 ? What a great leader !!!"

even when he had been responsible for crimes against humanity you think that's great..?

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By *icky999Man over a year ago

warrington

That tash was a crime against humanity

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The end of the day we live in a country with the freedom of speech , we're all entitled to our own opinion , and I think more people should vote for ukip ??

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The end of the day we live in a country with the freedom of speech , we're all entitled to our own opinion , and I think more people should vote for ukip ??"

And then again you think Hitler was a great leader

Forgive me if I don't follow your recommendation

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By *icketysplitsWoman over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"The end of the day we live in a country with the freedom of speech , we're all entitled to our own opinion , and I think more people should vote for ukip ??"

Then why pepper it with question marks - it makes you look uncertain of your opinion.

I am certain I won't be voting for UKIP.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"The end of the day we live in a country with the freedom of speech , we're all entitled to our own opinion , and I think more people should vote for ukip ??"

we do yes but with the right to the freedom of speech comes responsibility for how we say what we think..

and that right was certainly not one enjoyed by those under Hitlers rule..

ironic that you think he was great and yet he would have denied you that which you now have..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm blonde hair with blue eyes ,, I would of been loved ????????

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm blonde hair with blue eyes ,, I would of been loved ????????"

Your freedoms would have been stifled, regardless of your genetic make up.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman over a year ago

little house on the praire

I will be voting ukip

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Hitler before 1939 ? What a great leader !!!

I beg to differ.

Strong leader, yes

Great leader, no

There is a difference "
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From 1933 to 1939 he was loved by business, I mean let's face facts while everyone else was in the shite Germany was on a boom ,ford,IBM,ITT, coca cola, Dupont, general motors, general electric, standard oil, chase..... They fucking loved the guy! They couldn't get their money in there fast enough.

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By *ngel n tedCouple over a year ago

maidstone

A farage thread and the name adolf hitler appears 3 posts in, fuck me thats got to be a record, that name doesn't normally get bandied round till after at least 20 posts in

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The end of the day we live in a country with the freedom of speech , we're all entitled to our own opinion , and I think more people should vote for ukip ??"

You do? Apart from immigration and leaving Europe, could you explain their other policies?

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By *dsindyTV/TS over a year ago

East Lancashire

Free speech is all well and good, but some seem to use it to speak any twaddle they think off. As has been said, it comes with the responsibility to THINK about what you say. I will not be putting my X anywhere near ukip

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Nigel farage just what this country needs !!!!!!!!!!!!!! People are scared of the ukip so they go on about racism ??? Check the votes the party gets ?? Getting more popular by the day xxx"

I'm not scared of UKIP, I would however be scared of them running this country. I'm totally unconvinced that they'd have any clue about what they are doing. They use Immigration and Europe to get votes, as to their other policies they give us no clue! Many of their votes are votes against the government rather than actually being votes for UKIP itself.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

" Apart from immigration and leaving Europe, could you explain their other policies?

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By *etitesaraTV/TS over a year ago

rochdale

A Nazi apologist exhorting us to vote UKIP? You really couldn't make it up could you?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

How is voting to get out of Europe all of a sudden unacceptable because it makes you racist? I think you'll find the mainstream parties are using the 'if you throw enough shit some will stick' strategy because they are extremely worried how many votes UKIP will take from them. Because being in Europe serves only the rich (including politicians & their Eaton school mates)

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If the main stream parties don't address the concerns of the masses, they will seek out smaller parties who appear to addresses those concerns, which will become main stream...

That's what is happening now, you are allowed to vote for any person/party seeking election under the rules of UK democracy.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm blonde hair with blue eyes ,, I would of been loved ????????"

yea,then locked up for being on a site full of perverts

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"A farage thread and the name adolf hitler appears 3 posts in, fuck me thats got to be a record, that name doesn't normally get bandied round till after at least 20 posts in

by a ukip supporter..

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By *dsindyTV/TS over a year ago

East Lancashire

"If the main stream parties don't address the concerns of the masses, they will seek out smaller parties who appear to addresses those concerns, which will become main stream...

That's what is happening now, you are allowed to vote for any person/party seeking election under the rules of UK democracy. "

Don't think anyone is saying you cannot vote ukip (or any other party), just that they (ukip) do not seem to have anything like a manifesto after Europe and immigration. Therefore, the resounding majority here won't vote for them....and I bet that will reflect nationwide.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Free speech is all well and good, but some seem to use it to speak any twaddle they think off. As has been said, it comes with the responsibility to THINK about what you say. I will not be putting my X anywhere near ukip"
.You know why they use an x....huhhh

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

ukip are a fucking joke

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Nigel farage just what this country needs !!!!!!!!!!!!!! People are scared of the ukip so they go on about racism ??? Check the votes the party gets ?? Getting more popular by the day xxx"

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By *dsindyTV/TS over a year ago

East Lancashire

Because they cannot spell?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

British politics is in a mess.

I don't know what the answer is.

I just know it isn't UKIP.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"British politics is in a mess.

I don't know what the answer is.

I just know it isn't UKIP."

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"A farage thread and the name adolf hitler appears 3 posts in, fuck me thats got to be a record, that name doesn't normally get bandied round till after at least 20 posts in

My initial comment was not to draw a link between the two (though I can see why it would be read that way), but rather, sometimes, the press get it gloriously wrong.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"A farage thread and the name adolf hitler appears 3 posts in, fuck me thats got to be a record, that name doesn't normally get bandied round till after at least 20 posts in

My initial comment was not to draw a link between the two (though I can see why it would be read that way), but rather, sometimes, the press get it gloriously wrong.

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So why didn't you say time magazine man of the year 1939

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Is it Red, blue or yellow though? Or a mish mash of two of the three? UKIP's just as viable as any of them - and we don't have to pay billions to unelected self serving eurocrats that way, just self serving beurocrats that are actually elected instead

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By *etitesaraTV/TS over a year ago

rochdale

"Hitler before 1939 ? What a great leader !!!"

The Anti-Jewish Laws were enacted from 1933.

An ignorant UKIP supporter, who'd have thought it?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"A farage thread and the name adolf hitler appears 3 posts in, fuck me thats got to be a record, that name doesn't normally get bandied round till after at least 20 posts in

My initial comment was not to draw a link between the two (though I can see why it would be read that way), but rather, sometimes, the press get it gloriously wrong.

So why didn't you say time magazine man of the year 1939"

Because he wasn't voted Time magazine man of the year for 1939 afaik.

He was in 1938 however, though the issue in which he was lauded was published in January 39

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"A farage thread and the name adolf hitler appears 3 posts in, fuck me thats got to be a record, that name doesn't normally get bandied round till after at least 20 posts in

My initial comment was not to draw a link between the two (though I can see why it would be read that way), but rather, sometimes, the press get it gloriously wrong.

So why didn't you say time magazine man of the year 1939

Because he wasn't voted Time magazine man of the year for 1939 afaik.

He was in 1938 however, though the issue in which he was lauded was published in January 39"
.Yes i know , but Joseph Stalin was 1939 just as equally as bad a character but without the Nazi connotations.... So maybe you were trying to point out the Nazi link

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"A farage thread and the name adolf hitler appears 3 posts in, fuck me thats got to be a record, that name doesn't normally get bandied round till after at least 20 posts in

My initial comment was not to draw a link between the two (though I can see why it would be read that way), but rather, sometimes, the press get it gloriously wrong.

So why didn't you say time magazine man of the year 1939

Because he wasn't voted Time magazine man of the year for 1939 afaik.

He was in 1938 however, though the issue in which he was lauded was published in January 39.Yes i know , but Joseph Stalin was 1939 just as equally as bad a character but without the Nazi connotations.... So maybe you were trying to point out the Nazi link"

I was unaware of that, but thank you for bringing a second valid example to the table

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Hitler before 1939 ? What a great leader !!!

The Anti-Jewish Laws were enacted from 1933.

An ignorant UKIP supporter, who'd have thought it?"

One who has a huge thing for black women - green arrow.

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By *iss_Samantha_LovecockTV/TS over a year ago

bmth /poole sometimes blandford

tho i think ukip had something, as they had the guts to stand up against insane immigration policy's. his support of blood sports makes me think hes a complete moron and a sadistic lunatic , i'd never vote for him in a million years now.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"A farage thread and the name adolf hitler appears 3 posts in, fuck me thats got to be a record, that name doesn't normally get bandied round till after at least 20 posts in

My initial comment was not to draw a link between the two (though I can see why it would be read that way), but rather, sometimes, the press get it gloriously wrong.

So why didn't you say time magazine man of the year 1939

Because he wasn't voted Time magazine man of the year for 1939 afaik.

I was unaware of that, but thank you for bringing a second valid example to the table "
or you could have had ayattola Khomeini from the 70s or Joseph Stalin from 43 (he got it twice).

The fact is time don't give person of the year for good deeds they give it on influence on the years events for good or bad.... So the press didn't get it wrong.

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By *etitesaraTV/TS over a year ago

rochdale

For those who say UKIP have no policies, a little light has been shone by the UKIP energy spokesman Roger Helmer MEP.

According to him (& contrary to 97% of scientific studies) man made climate change is "open to question" & therefore UKIP will repeal the Climate Change Act, and that the Big Six energy companies have been made scapegoats.

There you are people, your environment will suffer because UKIP cannot grasp science & your bills will rise because its not fair on those poor energy companies.

Keep drinking the Kool-Aid people...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Are we really so much like America now that we vote for the man/woman and not the politics of the party?

I want to vote UKIP because I have wanted out of Europe for about ten years now, finally we are starting to get the option, hell we haven't been allowed a referendum on it (because it would be lost)

Sod liking/not liking Farage, I like Britain, therefore I like UKIP

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By *etitesaraTV/TS over a year ago

rochdale

"Hitler before 1939 ? What a great leader !!!

The Anti-Jewish Laws were enacted from 1933.

An ignorant UKIP supporter, who'd have thought it?

One who has a huge thing for black women - green arrow."

I didn't say he was racist, I said he was ignorant - of historical fact.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The end of the day we live in a country with the freedom of speech , we're all entitled to our own opinion , and I think more people should vote for ukip ??

And then again you think Hitler was a great leader

Forgive me if I don't follow your recommendation"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Nigel is saying it's all about the UK. His party will change the UK from what it is and always has been to a very different and dark place.

People don't see it...man and party are a menace to society.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Careful mate. He had started killing people at that point!

As for Fararge, just part of the political elite, dictorship governing our country. I say we need a revolution!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"For those who say UKIP have no policies, a little light has been shone by the UKIP energy spokesman Roger Helmer MEP.

There you are people, your environment will suffer because UKIP cannot grasp science & your bills will rise because its not fair on those poor energy companies.

Keep drinking the Kool-Aid people..."
and exactly what country or politician has listened to the scientists then, I'm all for listening to the scientists they want to stop mass flights and cut cars by 70%... Which would mean stopping all the migrant workers flying from eastern Europe to work here!! And stopping you and lots of others on here jetting off to Barcelona for the weekend.

I'm in for that idea, you've sold me up, where do I put my X

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Nigel is saying it's all about the UK. His party will change the UK from what it is and always has been to a very different and dark place.

People don't see it...man and party are a menace to society.

The guy is a blithering idiot like all politicians. How on Earth will he be a menace? He can just about tie his own shoes but that's one up on Cameron et al

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Does anyone know who won in 2013? Or 2012?

I'm fairly indifferent to the outcry about an award no one was overly fussed about last year.

And while my _iews on Farage are well known, sadly you can't ignore what he has achieved this year.

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By *etitesaraTV/TS over a year ago

rochdale

"For those who say UKIP have no policies, a little light has been shone by the UKIP energy spokesman Roger Helmer MEP.

There you are people, your environment will suffer because UKIP cannot grasp science & your bills will rise because its not fair on those poor energy companies.

Keep drinking the Kool-Aid people...and exactly what country or politician has listened to the scientists then, I'm all for listening to the scientists they want to stop mass flights and cut cars by 70%... Which would mean stopping all the migrant workers flying from eastern Europe to work here!! And stopping you and lots of others on here jetting off to Barcelona for the weekend.

I'm in for that idea, you've sold me up, where do I put my X"

So you are happy to keep burning fossil fuels without attempting to prevent poison levels rising? Not a long term plan really is it?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Nigel is saying it's all about the UK. His party will change the UK from what it is and always has been to a very different and dark place.

People don't see it...man and party are a menace to society.

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So we didn't persecute homosexuals only 50 years or so like Turin... We've always been a wonderful light we never murdered our own citizens in Ireland or did bad deeds in foreign lands.... Oh no it's just farage that will do all that and turn the UK into mordor

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Hitler before 1939 ? What a great leader !!!

The Anti-Jewish Laws were enacted from 1933.

An ignorant UKIP supporter, who'd have thought it?

One who has a huge thing for black women - green arrow.

I didn't say he was racist, I said he was ignorant - of historical fact.

I was not suggesting you had. More that his _iews implied he was a bit confused.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"For those who say UKIP have no policies, a little light has been shone by the UKIP energy spokesman Roger Helmer MEP.

There you are people, your environment will suffer because UKIP cannot grasp science & your bills will rise because its not fair on those poor energy companies.

I'm in for that idea, you've sold me up, where do I put my X

So you are happy to keep burning fossil fuels without attempting to prevent poison levels rising? Not a long term plan really is it?"
....No Im a green party member... Have you actually read what the 97% of scientists recommended.... We've got to stop mass flights today!!! Not next year or in ten years time, how the fuck are eastern Europeans going to get here.... Walk.

Your arguments are nonsensical.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Does anyone know who won in 2013? Or 2012?

I'm fairly indifferent to the outcry about an award no one was overly fussed about last year.

And while my _iews on Farage are well known, sadly you can't ignore what he has achieved this year."

very true,and what concerns me,is how much support is based on objective factual thinking as opposed to a play on the fears of the misinformed.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan over a year ago

Widnes

"Hitler before 1939 ? What a great leader !!!"

That's hardly an advert to encourage people to vote UKIP but I'm glad you said it. Clearly shows what sort of people support UKIP

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Does anyone know who won in 2013? Or 2012?

I'm fairly indifferent to the outcry about an award no one was overly fussed about last year.

And while my _iews on Farage are well known, sadly you can't ignore what he has achieved this year.

very true,and what concerns me,is how much support is based on objective factual thinking as opposed to a play on the fears of the misinformed."

As was demonstrared earlier this week UKIP supporters cannot answer the simple question, other than immigration what UKIP policies do you support

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By *nleashedCrakenMan over a year ago

Widnes

"Nigel farage just what this country needs !!!!!!!!!!!!!! People are scared of the ukip so they go on about racism ??? Check the votes the party gets ?? Getting more popular by the day xxx

all that means is there are more folks admitting to being racist"

I personally don't think UKIP is racist. However its anti Europe, anti immigration stance, while not being necessarily racist themselves, does seem to attract those who are.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"For those who say UKIP have no policies, a little light has been shone by the UKIP energy spokesman Roger Helmer MEP.

There you are people, your environment will suffer because UKIP cannot grasp science & your bills will rise because its not fair on those poor energy companies.

I'm in for that idea, you've sold me up, where do I put my X

So you are happy to keep burning fossil fuels without attempting to prevent poison levels rising? Not a long term plan really is it?....No Im a green party member... Have you actually read what the 97% of scientists recommended.... We've got to stop mass flights today!!! Not next year or in ten years time, how the fuck are eastern Europeans going to get here.... Walk.

Your arguments are nonsensical."

Just a thought - Perhaps they'll come by train? Or hide in lorries? Or by boat? Or any combination of the above plus walking. It depends how attractive the prospects are where you're going compared to where you start, doesn't it?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Hitler before 1939 ? What a great leader !!!

That's hardly an advert to encourage people to vote UKIP but I'm glad you said it. Clearly shows what sort of people support UKIP"

Or maybe he was trying to wind someone up, joking, taking the piss.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Nigel is saying it's all about the UK. His party will change the UK from what it is and always has been to a very different and dark place.

People don't see it...man and party are a menace to society.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan over a year ago

Widnes

"Nigel farage just what this country needs !!!!!!!!!!!!!! People are scared of the ukip so they go on about racism ??? Check the votes the party gets ?? Getting more popular by the day xxx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Is that what I said...I think not...

Just wait cos both Labour and the Tories will be influenced in their policies by UKIP there is no turning back.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yes those hiding in boats and planes etc....last time I checked were illegal immigrants ? Big difference,and most parties oppose that.

Tell you what lets stop all immigration....and watch our health service collapse. The world is changing like it or not,so we can change with it or emphatically cling onto nationalistic Idealism and struggle in the future more than we are now ?

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By *nleashedCrakenMan over a year ago

Widnes

"A Nazi apologist exhorting us to vote UKIP? You really couldn't make it up could you?

I'm beginning to think that maybe he's an undercover Labour or Conservative supporter. !!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"For those who say UKIP have no policies, a little light has been shone by the UKIP energy spokesman Roger Helmer MEP.

There you are people, your environment will suffer because UKIP cannot grasp science & your bills will rise because its not fair on those poor energy companies.

I'm in for that idea, you've sold me up, where do I put my X

Your arguments are nonsensical.

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trains powered by what!! Trucks powered by what??.

They come here to earn money to send to a country where the money goes further they have to do this because the vast majority of the jobs there doing are paid pittance you certainly couldn't afford to live here on them, if the jobs paid a living wage I would suggest that perhaps we wouldn't need them as the indigenous population would do them.

And in fact the eastern Europeans could prosper in their own country improving it rather than leaving it struggling through their emigration

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By *nleashedCrakenMan over a year ago

Widnes

"How is voting to get out of Europe all of a sudden unacceptable because it makes you racist? I think you'll find the mainstream parties are using the 'if you throw enough shit some will stick' strategy because they are extremely worried how many votes UKIP will take from them. Because being in Europe serves only the rich (including politicians & their Eaton school mates) "

No one has said that wanting to leave Europe is racist. In my opinion it would be wrong and not in Britain's best interests, however I've never said or thought it to be a race issue.

What I do believe however is that UKIP's anti Europe and anti immigration stance, while not necessarily being racist themselves, does attract people who are racist.

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By *its_n_piecesCouple over a year ago

"As was demonstrared earlier this week UKIP supporters cannot answer the simple question, other than immigration what UKIP policies do you support"

ukip seem to be the ideal party to follow for all those who haven't the mental capacity for thinking about politics for longer than 1 minute

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

No one has said that wanting to leave Europe is racist. In my opinion it would be wrong and not in Britain's best interests, however I've never said or thought it to be a race issue.

What I do believe however is that UKIP's anti Europe and anti immigration stance, while not necessarily being racist themselves, does attract people who are racist.

Whether it attracts racists or not the generalisation that UKIP is a racist party is entirely wrong, those on here that are continuing to link the two need to open their eyes to the slander campaigns of the more established parties

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"As was demonstrared earlier this week UKIP supporters cannot answer the simple question, other than immigration what UKIP policies do you support

ukip seem to be the ideal party to follow for all those who haven't the mental capacity for thinking about politics for longer than 1 minute"

this made me.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"As was demonstrared earlier this week UKIP supporters cannot answer the simple question, other than immigration what UKIP policies do you support

ukip seem to be the ideal party to follow for all those who haven't the mental capacity for thinking about politics for longer than 1 minute"

I have followed politics for most of my life

I have qualifications coming out of my ears

However I class myself as a blunt to the point northerner who can see through endless bs

I support UKIP because of these three things

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"A farage thread and the name adolf hitler appears 3 posts in, fuck me thats got to be a record, that name doesn't normally get bandied round till after at least 20 posts in

My initial comment was not to draw a link between the two (though I can see why it would be read that way), but rather, sometimes, the press get it gloriously wrong.

So why didn't you say time magazine man of the year 1939

Because he wasn't voted Time magazine man of the year for 1939 afaik.

I was unaware of that, but thank you for bringing a second valid example to the table or you could have had ayattola Khomeini from the 70s or Joseph Stalin from 43 (he got it twice).

The fact is time don't give person of the year for good deeds they give it on influence on the years events for good or bad.... So the press didn't get it wrong."

So they don't just go for people that will sell magazines or papers then ?

As for not getting it wrong, if you use their terminology, then I guess not

But doesn't history tell us differently ?

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By *nleashedCrakenMan over a year ago

Widnes

"Are we really so much like America now that we vote for the man/woman and not the politics of the party?

I want to vote UKIP because I have wanted out of Europe for about ten years now, finally we are starting to get the option, hell we haven't been allowed a referendum on it (because it would be lost)

Sod liking/not liking Farage, I like Britain, therefore I like UKIP"

But I love Britain which is why I won't be voting UKIP

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"For those who say UKIP have no policies, a little light has been shone by the UKIP energy spokesman Roger Helmer MEP.

There you are people, your environment will suffer because UKIP cannot grasp science & your bills will rise because its not fair on those poor energy companies.

I'm in for that idea, you've sold me up, where do I put my X

Your arguments are nonsensical.

trains powered by what!! Trucks powered by what??.

And in fact the eastern Europeans could prosper in their own country improving it rather than leaving it struggling through their emigration"

Before you leap around onto another bandwagon, your question was how do they get here, walk? That is feasible, as is travel by boat. I'm not sure what criteria you're using to rule out electrical power for trains or other fuels for other land based transport, you were going on about flights at the time.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"As was demonstrared earlier this week UKIP supporters cannot answer the simple question, other than immigration what UKIP policies do you support

ukip seem to be the ideal party to follow for all those who haven't the mental capacity for thinking about politics for longer than 1 minute

I have followed politics for most of my life

I have qualifications coming out of my ears

However I class myself as a blunt to the point northerner who can see through endless bs

I support UKIP because of these three things"

Well said!

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By *nleashedCrakenMan over a year ago

Widnes

"Careful mate. He had started killing people at that point!

As for Fararge, just part of the political elite, dictorship governing our country. I say we need a revolution! "

It's normally those asking for revelation that are first against the wall when it comes, so good luck to you mate.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan over a year ago

Widnes

Revolution*

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Nigel farage just what this country needs !!!!!!!!!!!!!! People are scared of the ukip so they go on about racism ??? Check the votes the party gets ?? Getting more popular by the day xxx

all that means is there are more folks admitting to being racist"

Ahh the word racist being used so loosely yet again

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Are we really so much like America now that we vote for the man/woman and not the politics of the party?

I want to vote UKIP because I have wanted out of Europe for about ten years now, finally we are starting to get the option, hell we haven't been allowed a referendum on it (because it would be lost)

Sod liking/not liking Farage, I like Britain, therefore I like UKIP

But I love Britain which is why I won't be voting UKIP"

It's good to disagree sometimes I suppose - all power to you (even though you're wrong lol!)

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Nigel farage just what this country needs !!!!!!!!!!!!!! People are scared of the ukip so they go on about racism ??? Check the votes the party gets ?? Getting more popular by the day xxx

all that means is there are more folks admitting to being racist

Ahh the word racist being used so loosely yet again "

Doesn't take much to be accused of being racist on here.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"For those who say UKIP have no policies, a little light has been shone by the UKIP energy spokesman Roger Helmer MEP.

There you are people, your environment will suffer because UKIP cannot grasp science & your bills will rise because its not fair on those poor energy companies.

I'm in for that idea, you've sold me up, where do I put my X

Your arguments are nonsensical.

"
.If it pleases your conscience more, vote green I do.

According to most scientific papers we need at least a 50% cut in co2 , however there's alot of peer re_iewed papers that suggest that to stabilise the foreseeable climate we need zero emissions.

Infact there was a paper in the states done not long ago that had a 10 point strategy for saving the planet.

Infrastructure upgrades

Stop all burning of coal/oil

Move close to work (real close)

One child

Increase resources in new fuels

Unplug

Be as efficient as possible

Turn vegetarian

Consume less.

Do all this and we might avoid catastrophic climate change.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan over a year ago

Widnes

"For those who say UKIP have no policies, a little light has been shone by the UKIP energy spokesman Roger Helmer MEP.

There you are people, your environment will suffer because UKIP cannot grasp science & your bills will rise because its not fair on those poor energy companies.

I'm in for that idea, you've sold me up, where do I put my X

Your arguments are nonsensical.

trains powered by what!! Trucks powered by what??.

And in fact the eastern Europeans could prosper in their own country improving it rather than leaving it struggling through their emigration"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"As was demonstrared earlier this week UKIP supporters cannot answer the simple question, other than immigration what UKIP policies do you support

ukip seem to be the ideal party to follow for all those who haven't the mental capacity for thinking about politics for longer than 1 minute"

These so called idiots don't give anything much thought.

But look what the established parties have driven them into doing - voting, that takes some doing!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"As was demonstrared earlier this week UKIP supporters cannot answer the simple question, other than immigration what UKIP policies do you support

ukip seem to be the ideal party to follow for all those who haven't the mental capacity for thinking about politics for longer than 1 minute

I have followed politics for most of my life

I have qualifications coming out of my ears

However I class myself as a blunt to the point northerner who can see through endless bs

I support UKIP because of these three things"

Not because of their policies?

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By *nleashedCrakenMan over a year ago

Widnes

No one has said that wanting to leave Europe is racist. In my opinion it would be wrong and not in Britain's best interests, however I've never said or thought it to be a race issue.

What I do believe however is that UKIP's anti Europe and anti immigration stance, while not necessarily being racist themselves, does attract people who are racist.

In this thread it was actually a person who claimed to support UKIP that made the link by also saying that he thought Hitler had been a great leader.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

They say desperate times bring desperate measurese but are we that bad we need the likes of that man not sure what is is to smug to flash or just trying to be everything to everyone but I for one dont trust him

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Nigel farage just what this country needs !!!!!!!!!!!!!! People are scared of the ukip so they go on about racism ??? Check the votes the party gets ?? Getting more popular by the day xxx"

You can just see the people of Chell Heath and Meir rubbing there hands.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan over a year ago

Widnes

"As was demonstrared earlier this week UKIP supporters cannot answer the simple question, other than immigration what UKIP policies do you support

ukip seem to be the ideal party to follow for all those who haven't the mental capacity for thinking about politics for longer than 1 minute

I have followed politics for most of my life

Same here.

I have qualifications coming out of my ears

Same here.

However I class myself as a blunt to the point northerner who can see through endless bs

Same here

I support UKIP because of these three things"

And I don't support UKIP because of these three things!!!

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By *nleashedCrakenMan over a year ago

Widnes

"For those who say UKIP have no policies, a little light has been shone by the UKIP energy spokesman Roger Helmer MEP.

There you are people, your environment will suffer because UKIP cannot grasp science & your bills will rise because its not fair on those poor energy companies.

I'm in for that idea, you've sold me up, where do I put my X

Your arguments are nonsensical.

.If it pleases your conscience more, vote green I do.

According to most scientific papers we need at least a 50% cut in co2 , however there's alot of peer re_iewed papers that suggest that to stabilise the foreseeable climate we need zero emissions.

Infact there was a paper in the states done not long ago that had a 10 point strategy for saving the planet.

Infrastructure upgrades

Stop all burning of coal/oil

Move close to work (real close)

One child

Increase resources in new fuels

Unplug

Be as efficient as possible

Turn vegetarian

Consume less.

Do all this and we might avoid catastrophic climate change.

They don't have a thumbs down button on here.

If I have to give up my roast beef in order to save the planet then I'm afraid the planets doomed.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

You don't a degree to understand were fucking the planet up on an exponential rate.... However try telling that to this woman!

I'm sure my petrol cap was on this side | NEWSBOXD: http://youtu.be/zbWuzoUHyLE

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"For those who say UKIP have no policies, a little light has been shone by the UKIP energy spokesman Roger Helmer MEP.

There you are people, your environment will suffer because UKIP cannot grasp science & your bills will rise because its not fair on those poor energy companies.

I'm in for that idea, you've sold me up, where do I put my X

Your arguments are nonsensical.

.If it pleases your conscience more, vote green I do.

According to most scientific papers we need at least a 50% cut in co2 , however there's alot of peer re_iewed papers that suggest that to stabilise the foreseeable climate we need zero emissions.

Infact there was a paper in the states done not long ago that had a 10 point strategy for saving the planet.

Infrastructure upgrades

Stop all burning of coal/oil

Move close to work (real close)

One child

Increase resources in new fuels

Unplug

Be as efficient as possible

Turn vegetarian

Consume less.

Do all this and we might avoid catastrophic climate change.

They don't have a thumbs down button on here.

If I have to give up my roast beef in order to save the planet then I'm afraid the planets doomed.

Yep, hands off my bacon sandwiches too.

Given the American position in the league tables for CO2 production (both in total and per capita) it would help if they made a real contribution to the required reduction as well as producing papers about it

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

" Doesn't take much to be accused of being racist on here.

It's not something I've ever been accused of. Nor in real life for that matter.

I guess some people's posting history makes the insinuation more likely though.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Nigel farage just what this country needs !!!!!!!!!!!!!! People are scared of the ukip so they go on about racism ??? Check the votes the party gets ?? Getting more popular by the day xxx

all that means is there are more folks admitting to being racist

Ahh the word racist being used so loosely yet again

Doesn't take much to be accused of being racist on here.

for some the phrase 'if the cap fits' is one that springs to mind..

its usually on here the most intolerant and bigoted who chuck out the same old same old..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

These threads are so biased ! I see know one has cared to mention a Labour Party Member who just happens to be a Siekh has just joined Ukip ! Or are Siekhs racist aswell ?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"These threads are so biased ! I see know one has cared to mention a Labour Party Member who just happens to be a Siekh has just joined Ukip ! Or are Siekhs racist aswell ?"

You don't think people from ethnic minorities can be racist?! How naive! The hostilities between some Jamaicans and Nigerians based on nationality alone is what, justified?!

Maybe this particular Sikh isn't from 'bongo bongo land' and therefore doesn't mind? Maybe he's rather keen to get 'women cleaning behind the fridge' again?!

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By *inaTitzTV/TS over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

A divisive, odious figure.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan over a year ago

Widnes

"These threads are so biased ! I see know one has cared to mention a Labour Party Member who just happens to be a Siekh has just joined Ukip ! Or are Siekhs racist aswell ?"

I guess a Siekh is just as likely to be racist as anyone else.

That's not to say I think UKIP is a racist party.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"This was a story three days ago but it's old news now.

The interesting bit was the comparisons made to Oswald Mosley getting the same title from the Times. That and the protests made to The Times.

Why does it matter it was 3 days ago?

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By *carineMan over a year ago

Armthorpe, Doncaster

Has Farage won pisshead of the year yet?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"These threads are so biased ! I see know one has cared to mention a Labour Party Member who just happens to be a Siekh has just joined Ukip ! Or are Siekhs racist aswell ?

You don't think people from ethnic minorities can be racist?! How naive! The hostilities between some Jamaicans and Nigerians based on nationality alone is what, justified?!

Maybe this particular Sikh isn't from 'bongo bongo land' and therefore doesn't mind? Maybe he's rather keen to get 'women cleaning behind the fridge' again?! "
Yuve just proved my point ! And yes I know all races can be racist ! But it rather makes the people who say Ukip are look a bit silly !

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Nigel farage just what this country needs !!!!!!!!!!!!!! People are scared of the ukip so they go on about racism ??? Check the votes the party gets ?? Getting more popular by the day xxx

all that means is there are more folks admitting to being racist

Ahh the word racist being used so loosely yet again

Doesn't take much to be accused of being racist on here.

for some the phrase 'if the cap fits' is one that springs to mind..

its usually on here the most intolerant and bigoted who chuck out the same old same old.. "

yes I agree with you there.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yes but the most intolerant and Biggited people are more often than not Left Wing !

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Yes but the most intolerant and Biggited people are more often than not Left Wing !"

They certainly are.

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By *its_n_piecesCouple over a year ago

a policy that seeks to marginalise people because of their ethnicity is by default a racist policy

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"a policy that seeks to marginalise people because of their ethnicity is by default a racist policy "
.You cant marginalise people though ethnicity in the UK. It's illegal

You can't have a policy that does it because thats illegal too.

My nan is a terrible racist always has been, she's a lovely woman in every way but is from a generation that's not moved on!.

Ending racism through policy is like ending Isis through bombing... There both an ideology that can only be tackled through education and a will to change.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan over a year ago

Widnes

"Yes but the most intolerant and Biggited people are more often than not Left Wing !"

I've seen little evidence of that statement.

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By *its_n_piecesCouple over a year ago

"a policy that seeks to marginalise people because of their ethnicity is by default a racist policy .You cant marginalise people though ethnicity in the UK. It's illegal

You can't have a policy that does it because thats illegal too.

My nan is a terrible racist always has been, she's a lovely woman in every way but is from a generation that's not moved on!.

Ending racism through policy is like ending Isis through bombing... There both an ideology that can only be tackled through education and a will to change.

tell that to farage

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By *nleashedCrakenMan over a year ago

Widnes

"a policy that seeks to marginalise people because of their ethnicity is by default a racist policy .You cant marginalise people though ethnicity in the UK. It's illegal

You can't have a policy that does it because thats illegal too.

My nan is a terrible racist always has been, she's a lovely woman in every way but is from a generation that's not moved on!.

Ending racism through policy is like ending Isis through bombing... There both an ideology that can only be tackled through education and a will to change.

Yet again I find myself agreeing with you. Am I turning into a lefty. LOL

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"a policy that seeks to marginalise people because of their ethnicity is by default a racist policy .You cant marginalise people though ethnicity in the UK. It's illegal

You can't have a policy that does it because thats illegal too.

My nan is a terrible racist always has been, she's a lovely woman in every way but is from a generation that's not moved on!.

Ending racism through policy is like ending Isis through bombing... There both an ideology that can only be tackled through education and a will to change.

Yet again I find myself agreeing with you. Am I turning into a lefty. LOL "
...Either that or I'm turning into a right wing Thatcher sex toy fan...

.. Erm no it's you I hope.

I've always been weird in I believe in left wing policies but with right wing punishment.

So give people a chance and some freedom but if they fuck up enough just nail em up and move on... Fucking humans... It's not like we're short of em

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By *entaur_UKMan over a year ago

Cannock

"These threads are so biased ! I see know one has cared to mention a Labour Party Member who just happens to be a Siekh has just joined Ukip ! Or are Siekhs racist aswell ?"

There are many asian, black and mixed race high profile mebers of UKIP, Amjad Bashir, Steven Woolfe and Winston McKenzie to name just a few.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"These threads are so biased ! I see know one has cared to mention a Labour Party Member who just happens to be a Siekh has just joined Ukip ! Or are Siekhs racist aswell ?

There are many asian, black and mixed race high profile mebers of UKIP, Amjad Bashir, Steven Woolfe and Winston McKenzie to name just a few. "

Yes I know, they must be all racists though.

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By *entaur_UKMan over a year ago

Cannock

"Does anyone know who won in 2013? Or 2012?

I'm fairly indifferent to the outcry about an award no one was overly fussed about last year.

And while my _iews on Farage are well known, sadly you can't ignore what he has achieved this year.

very true,and what concerns me,is how much support is based on objective factual thinking as opposed to a play on the fears of the misinformed.

As was demonstrared earlier this week UKIP supporters cannot answer the simple question, other than immigration what UKIP policies do you support"

I posted tons of UKIP policies on UKIP threads in the past, you never listen, it goes in one ear and out the other. The information is freely available out there, instead of badgering people to copy and paste policies on here go and find them yourself. If you can't be bothered then why should anyone else?

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By *nleashedCrakenMan over a year ago

Widnes

"These threads are so biased ! I see know one has cared to mention a Labour Party Member who just happens to be a Siekh has just joined Ukip ! Or are Siekhs racist aswell ?

There are many asian, black and mixed race high profile mebers of UKIP, Amjad Bashir, Steven Woolfe and Winston McKenzie to name just a few. "

I don't think most people believe that UKIP is racist, however it's anti Europe and anti immigration policy does attract people who are racist.

Most people who oppose UKIP oppose UKIP because, like me, they believe their policies are bad for Britain.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan over a year ago

Widnes

"Does anyone know who won in 2013? Or 2012?

I'm fairly indifferent to the outcry about an award no one was overly fussed about last year.

And while my _iews on Farage are well known, sadly you can't ignore what he has achieved this year.

very true,and what concerns me,is how much support is based on objective factual thinking as opposed to a play on the fears of the misinformed.

As was demonstrared earlier this week UKIP supporters cannot answer the simple question, other than immigration what UKIP policies do you support

Unfortunately, if you want to convince people you do.

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By *picyspiregirlCouple over a year ago

chesterfield

Which policies do you believe are bad?

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By *entaur_UKMan over a year ago

Cannock

"Does anyone know who won in 2013? Or 2012?

I'm fairly indifferent to the outcry about an award no one was overly fussed about last year.

And while my _iews on Farage are well known, sadly you can't ignore what he has achieved this year.

very true,and what concerns me,is how much support is based on objective factual thinking as opposed to a play on the fears of the misinformed.

As was demonstrared earlier this week UKIP supporters cannot answer the simple question, other than immigration what UKIP policies do you support

Unfortunately, if you want to convince people you do. "

And as i said i have posted tons of UKIP policies in the past on various UKIP threads.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Does anyone know who won in 2013? Or 2012?

I'm fairly indifferent to the outcry about an award no one was overly fussed about last year.

And while my _iews on Farage are well known, sadly you can't ignore what he has achieved this year.

very true,and what concerns me,is how much support is based on objective factual thinking as opposed to a play on the fears of the misinformed.

As was demonstrared earlier this week UKIP supporters cannot answer the simple question, other than immigration what UKIP policies do you support

Tons? You quoted 2

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Does anyone know who won in 2013? Or 2012?

I'm fairly indifferent to the outcry about an award no one was overly fussed about last year.

And while my _iews on Farage are well known, sadly you can't ignore what he has achieved this year.

very true,and what concerns me,is how much support is based on objective factual thinking as opposed to a play on the fears of the misinformed.

As was demonstrared earlier this week UKIP supporters cannot answer the simple question, other than immigration what UKIP policies do you support

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By *entaur_UKMan over a year ago

Cannock

"These threads are so biased ! I see know one has cared to mention a Labour Party Member who just happens to be a Siekh has just joined Ukip ! Or are Siekhs racist aswell ?

There are many asian, black and mixed race high profile mebers of UKIP, Amjad Bashir, Steven Woolfe and Winston McKenzie to name just a few.

I don't think most people believe that UKIP is racist, however it's anti Europe and anti immigration policy does attract people who are racist.

Most people who oppose UKIP oppose UKIP because, like me, they believe their policies are bad for Britain."

Many people think leaving the EU will actually be better for Britain. Take another policy which has nothing to do with Europe, scrap HS2 and save billions, much better for the environment aswel in the process, and many reports suggest it won't benefit the country that much, will just probably add to the imbalance of wealth heading into London, instead of distributing wealth accross the country.

UKIP also want to nationalise toll roads. The motorist in this country is constantly being hammered by successive governments, UKIP are actually going to tdo something for the motorist for a change. Nationalising the M6 toll in the midlands will be very popular as congestion on the m6 around birmingham is horrendous. A lot of people just refuse to pay the toll fee on the m6 toll so it has turned into something of a white elephant.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Does anyone know who won in 2013? Or 2012?

I'm fairly indifferent to the outcry about an award no one was overly fussed about last year.

And while my _iews on Farage are well known, sadly you can't ignore what he has achieved this year.

very true,and what concerns me,is how much support is based on objective factual thinking as opposed to a play on the fears of the misinformed.

As was demonstrared earlier this week UKIP supporters cannot answer the simple question, other than immigration what UKIP policies do you support

Unfortunately, if you want to convince people you do. "

The policies aren't freely available.

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By *entaur_UKMan over a year ago

Cannock

"Does anyone know who won in 2013? Or 2012?

I'm fairly indifferent to the outcry about an award no one was overly fussed about last year.

And while my _iews on Farage are well known, sadly you can't ignore what he has achieved this year.

very true,and what concerns me,is how much support is based on objective factual thinking as opposed to a play on the fears of the misinformed.

As was demonstrared earlier this week UKIP supporters cannot answer the simple question, other than immigration what UKIP policies do you support

Tons? You quoted 2"

I assume you refer to the other thread this week, lol. Ukip threads have been going on far longer. I posted many on around the european elections, (which you said they would never win, lol). I 've posted many on threads which date back before then aswel.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan over a year ago

Widnes

"Which policies do you believe are bad?"

There policy on Europe for starters. We fort two world wars to stop the Germans dominating Europe and now UKIP wants to hand it to them on a plate.

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By *picyspiregirlCouple over a year ago

chesterfield

"These threads are so biased ! I see know one has cared to mention a Labour Party Member who just happens to be a Siekh has just joined Ukip ! Or are Siekhs racist aswell ?

There are many asian, black and mixed race high profile mebers of UKIP, Amjad Bashir, Steven Woolfe and Winston McKenzie to name just a few.

I don't think most people believe that UKIP is racist, however it's anti Europe and anti immigration policy does attract people who are racist.

Most people who oppose UKIP oppose UKIP because, like me, they believe their policies are bad for Britain.

I agree with their policy on tuition fees.

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By *entaur_UKMan over a year ago

Cannock

"Does anyone know who won in 2013? Or 2012?

I'm fairly indifferent to the outcry about an award no one was overly fussed about last year.

And while my _iews on Farage are well known, sadly you can't ignore what he has achieved this year.

very true,and what concerns me,is how much support is based on objective factual thinking as opposed to a play on the fears of the misinformed.

As was demonstrared earlier this week UKIP supporters cannot answer the simple question, other than immigration what UKIP policies do you support

Unfortunately, if you want to convince people you do.

The policies aren't freely available. "

yes they are

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Careful mate. He had started killing people at that point!

As for Fararge, just part of the political elite, dictorship governing our country. I say we need a revolution! "

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By *entaur_UKMan over a year ago

Cannock

"Which policies do you believe are bad?

There policy on Europe for starters. We fort two world wars to stop the Germans dominating Europe and now UKIP wants to hand it to them on a plate."

The germans are already trying to dominate us within europe, Merkel has already slapped Cameron down on free movement of people.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"These threads are so biased ! I see know one has cared to mention a Labour Party Member who just happens to be a Siekh has just joined Ukip ! Or are Siekhs racist aswell ?

There are many asian, black and mixed race high profile mebers of UKIP, Amjad Bashir, Steven Woolfe and Winston McKenzie to name just a few.

I don't think most people believe that UKIP is racist, however it's anti Europe and anti immigration policy does attract people who are racist.

Most people who oppose UKIP oppose UKIP because, like me, they believe their policies are bad for Britain."

UKIP atteact so many racists that they screen their members to try and avoid scandal. Oh and then ignore the fact that their Kent party chair is a former National Front member because he apologised.

Those out and out nazi's Nick Griffin, Tommy Robinson and Paul Golding have all actively encouraged their supporters to back UKIP

Doesn't sound like a non-racist organisation to me

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Does anyone know who won in 2013? Or 2012?

I'm fairly indifferent to the outcry about an award no one was overly fussed about last year.

And while my _iews on Farage are well known, sadly you can't ignore what he has achieved this year.

very true,and what concerns me,is how much support is based on objective factual thinking as opposed to a play on the fears of the misinformed.

As was demonstrared earlier this week UKIP supporters cannot answer the simple question, other than immigration what UKIP policies do you support

Tons? You quoted 2

I can only remember you defending their lack of a manifesto as normal.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The end of the day we live in a country with the freedom of speech , we're all entitled to our own opinion , and I think more people should vote for ukip ??"

I'd recommend you invite your local UKIP representative for a coffee and ask them what their policies are on everything except immigration. Shouldn't take long op! But yes - you're absolutely right - we're a democracy and you can vote for whomever you choose. I just hope we all make an informed choice next year! X

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By *entaur_UKMan over a year ago

Cannock

"These threads are so biased ! I see know one has cared to mention a Labour Party Member who just happens to be a Siekh has just joined Ukip ! Or are Siekhs racist aswell ?

There are many asian, black and mixed race high profile mebers of UKIP, Amjad Bashir, Steven Woolfe and Winston McKenzie to name just a few.

I don't think most people believe that UKIP is racist, however it's anti Europe and anti immigration policy does attract people who are racist.

Most people who oppose UKIP oppose UKIP because, like me, they believe their policies are bad for Britain.

UKIP atteact so many racists that they screen their members to try and avoid scandal. Oh and then ignore the fact that their Kent party chair is a former National Front member because he apologised.

Those out and out nazi's Nick Griffin, Tommy Robinson and Paul Golding have all actively encouraged their supporters to back UKIP

Doesn't sound like a non-racist organisation to me"

The kent party chair regreats and apologised for something he did back in the 1970's. Pity the Labour party deputy leader Harriet Harman refuses to apologise for her links to the paedophile exchange back in the 1970's.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Does anyone know who won in 2013? Or 2012?

I'm fairly indifferent to the outcry about an award no one was overly fussed about last year.

And while my _iews on Farage are well known, sadly you can't ignore what he has achieved this year.

very true,and what concerns me,is how much support is based on objective factual thinking as opposed to a play on the fears of the misinformed.

As was demonstrared earlier this week UKIP supporters cannot answer the simple question, other than immigration what UKIP policies do you support

Unfortunately, if you want to convince people you do.

The policies aren't freely available.

yes they are

Well I agree that there is a link to what was declared at their party conference. Of course as Farage contradicted one of the polices announced by the deputy leader within hours it suggests that they are exactly set in stone

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"These threads are so biased ! I see know one has cared to mention a Labour Party Member who just happens to be a Siekh has just joined Ukip ! Or are Siekhs racist aswell ?

There are many asian, black and mixed race high profile mebers of UKIP, Amjad Bashir, Steven Woolfe and Winston McKenzie to name just a few.

I don't think most people believe that UKIP is racist, however it's anti Europe and anti immigration policy does attract people who are racist.

Most people who oppose UKIP oppose UKIP because, like me, they believe their policies are bad for Britain.

UKIP atteact so many racists that they screen their members to try and avoid scandal. Oh and then ignore the fact that their Kent party chair is a former National Front member because he apologised.

Those out and out nazi's Nick Griffin, Tommy Robinson and Paul Golding have all actively encouraged their supporters to back UKIP

Doesn't sound like a non-racist organisation to me

Nice smoke screen. It's amazing how Thatcher's name isn't brought up despite the press publishing accusations of her cover ups earlier this year.

But it makes a mockery of a policy that you have repeatedly praised.

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By *entaur_UKMan over a year ago

Cannock

"These threads are so biased ! I see know one has cared to mention a Labour Party Member who just happens to be a Siekh has just joined Ukip ! Or are Siekhs racist aswell ?

There are many asian, black and mixed race high profile mebers of UKIP, Amjad Bashir, Steven Woolfe and Winston McKenzie to name just a few.

I don't think most people believe that UKIP is racist, however it's anti Europe and anti immigration policy does attract people who are racist.

Most people who oppose UKIP oppose UKIP because, like me, they believe their policies are bad for Britain.

UKIP atteact so many racists that they screen their members to try and avoid scandal. Oh and then ignore the fact that their Kent party chair is a former National Front member because he apologised.

Those out and out nazi's Nick Griffin, Tommy Robinson and Paul Golding have all actively encouraged their supporters to back UKIP

Doesn't sound like a non-racist organisation to me

Nice smoke screen. It's amazing how Thatcher's name isn't brought up despite the press publishing accusations of her cover ups earlier this year.

But it makes a mockery of a policy that you have repeatedly praised. "

Would be hard for Thatcher to defend herself or apologise now she has passed away. Harman is still very much alive, but refuses to apologise.

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By *its_n_piecesCouple over a year ago

talking about peados and harriet harperson is just a diversionary tactic to distract from the fact that kipper spokespersons, candidates, members, supporters are largely bigots,racists and homophobes who have a habbit of accidentally outing themselves for what they are and what they really stand for. there is still no conclusive manifesto as to what their policies involve apart from europe and immigration. every time a party member mentions a policy, farage moves quickly to deny what they have said. it seems they have nothing to offer at all.

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By *picyspiregirlCouple over a year ago

chesterfield

"talking about peados and harriet harperson is just a diversionary tactic to distract from the fact that kipper spokespersons, candidates, members, supporters are largely bigots,racists and homophobes who have a habbit of accidentally outing themselves for what they are and what they really stand for. there is still no conclusive manifesto as to what their policies involve apart from europe and immigration. every time a party member mentions a policy, farage moves quickly to deny what they have said. it seems they have nothing to offer at all."

No party has a manifesto yet.

If harperson apologised for her role in the P.I.E scandal, do you think it could be used as a smokescreen? The fact is that she has not apologised for what was a disgraceful period in her history, neither has her husband although Patricia Hewitt and Liberty have. Her refusal to apologise makes me wonder why.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

.... and returning to the OP....

Actually the man has shaken up politics in a very big way and led UKIP to a very respectable poll rating. He led his party to a massive victory in the Euro elections. His party has won more by-elections than anyone else since 2010 (as opposed to 'holding') and finished first or second in every election in the last 2 years.

Personally I have a very high regard for the man because he takes all the crap thrown at him by the vested interests and just comes right back in their faces. And he articulates what the man and woman in the street is thinking (i e fuck off Europe) and challenges 'perceived wisdom'.

But come May I will not vote UKIP because I am sure that in many constituencies (possibly not mu rural Suffolk one) a non vote for the Conservatives will shoe Milliband into No 10 with or without support from the SNP. In many areas in the North UKIP IS the main challenger to Labour and if the Tories have any sense they will stand aside. Just sad that so many right of centre votes are split across two parties and the current system favours labour. A 30% Labour vote sees them in power while a 30% Tory vote denies them power.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Does anyone know who won in 2013? Or 2012?

I'm fairly indifferent to the outcry about an award no one was overly fussed about last year.

And while my _iews on Farage are well known, sadly you can't ignore what he has achieved this year.

very true,and what concerns me,is how much support is based on objective factual thinking as opposed to a play on the fears of the misinformed.

As was demonstrared earlier this week UKIP supporters cannot answer the simple question, other than immigration what UKIP policies do you support

Tons? You quoted 2"
yeah but they weighed a ton each

.. What's with these imperial tons anyhow .... Are you some sort of anti European fascist

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"According to the Times. Thoughts?"

My thoughts are simply that won't be told what to think..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

You should read Ukip's proposed policies on education. They should be able to help you with your grammar and spelling - something that previous governments have obviously failed to do.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The answer is simple. She like all her Labour crony mates have a mindset that they have a right to Government regardless of what happened in the past. So why apologise? She and Milliband and all their mates play the class envy warfare game pointing at Tory 'millionaires' while there are more Labour millionaires than Tory on the Front Benches. Privileged education? See haw many went to private schools and University. Especially that two faced creep Tristram Hunt their education person.

And when a stunt backfires like the 'Feminist T Shirt' its quietly forgotten how they were exploiting slave labour women.

Sorry Harperson is an absolute disgrace, hypocrite and a typical Leftie talking the talk about 'working class families' while walking the walk of a double millionaire with her husband who was selected on a 'women only' shortlist ....

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By *abioMan over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

No party has a manifesto yet.

but all the other parties will still stand by their last manifesto... which was the 2015 european elections and the local elections...

UKIP wont do that......

they will not stand by anything that was written only 6 months ago

with the exception of immigration and leaving the EU... their official policy on everything else is they have no policy on everything else......

so for example... 6 months ago in one of the debates.... farage said ukip policy was they he was against gay marriage.....

so do you as a UKIP supporter support his stance?

12 months ago.... farage said UKIP policy was they wanted the NHS to be run like the US private healthcare system......

so do you as a UKIP supporter support his stance??

a few more....

one rate income tax for all????

"opt-in" sex education in schools???

abolish statutory maternity pay???

no more equality laws???

have to say my favourite was in the 2010 manifesto....

"restricting foreigners on football teams...."

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

No party has a manifesto yet.

but all the other parties will still stand by their last manifesto... which was the 2015 european elections and the local elections...

UKIP wont do that......

they will not stand by anything that was written only 6 months ago

with the exception of immigration and leaving the EU... their official policy on everything else is they have no policy on everything else......

so for example... 6 months ago in one of the debates.... farage said ukip policy was they he was against gay marriage.....

so do you as a UKIP supporter support his stance?

12 months ago.... farage said UKIP policy was they wanted the NHS to be run like the US private healthcare system......

so do you as a UKIP supporter support his stance??

a few more....

one rate income tax for all????

"opt-in" sex education in schools???

abolish statutory maternity pay???

no more equality laws???

have to say my favourite was in the 2010 manifesto....

"restricting foreigners on football teams...."

I think your confusing what Farage puts up for discussion (like the thing about the NHS and private involvement) and what is 'policy'. A new party will be throwing lots of new ideas out but will settle on whatever policy it is and that is what goes into the Manifesto. And UKIP haven't, like the others, produced one.

So why didn't you also point out Labour's 'change of _iew' on the Deficit or immigration.

Farage and UKIP are worrying a lot of vested interests and so the crap is pushed out. And gross misrepresentations as well. I actually listened to Farage's conference speech. In full. And what that Labour loving twat Nick Robinson reported on the BBC after was never said in that speech. The big boys don't like a new boy. especially one that has a bit of street 'nous' about him, has a actually worked for a living and has created a huge swing of opinion for him and against them. Politics is a dirty game and we are seeing it at its worst with all the crap being foisted on UKIP.

You make sarccy remarks about foreign footballers in British teams so I guess you are equally happy that all these foreign players are keeping good British talent out of the Premier League and therefore our National team plays like a bunch of twats and makes our Country look stupid? You see no problem but he sees a problem and comes up with a solution.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

a few more....

one rate income tax for all????

"opt-in" sex education in schools???

abolish statutory maternity pay???

no more equality laws???

have to say my favourite was in the 2010 manifesto....

"restricting foreigners on football teams........

So I get my income tax lowered!

My wife has to cook more dinners than me!

And utd get back to proper players like Beckham, scholes, Neville, Cole, Bruce, Robson, giggs.... Id have missed cantona though

Where do I sign up again

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

UKIP atteact so many racists that they screen their members to try and avoid scandal. Oh and then ignore the fact that their Kent party chair is a former National Front member because he apologised.

Those out and out nazi's Nick Griffin, Tommy Robinson and Paul Golding have all actively encouraged their supporters to back UKIP

Doesn't sound like a non-racist organisation to me"

OKaaayyy .. so a bloke in his teens joins the National Front for a few months. That bars him from all political activity ever again? And why not mention he was a Tory activist for 30 years and no one said a bloody word about him until he joined UKIP!! Hypocrisy is alive and well I see.

How on earth can you slag off a Party and its members because another completely disassociated party says 'vote for UKIP'? Hellooo? So its not OK for the SNP to say 'vote for anyone except Conservative' then? And not OK for the Liberals to say 'vote Labour if you can't vote Liberal'?

Again hypocrisy is alive and well ...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

So I get my income tax lowered!

Where do I sign up again

Your tax has already been lowered. Bloody Tories and Liberals...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

UKIP atteact so many racists that they screen their members to try and avoid scandal. Oh and then ignore the fact that their Kent party chair is a former National Front member because he apologised.

Those out and out nazi's Nick Griffin, Tommy Robinson and Paul Golding have all actively encouraged their supporters to back UKIP

Doesn't sound like a non-racist organisation to me

I never said that. I just find it laughable that a party that made such a big deal about screening it's members clearly doesn't. And i find it even more laughable that kippers on here who have banged on about the policy repeatedly throughout this year whenever anyone dared accuse UKIP of being racist just shrug it off shrug off.

No other party has that policy (again somethiat the kippers drone on about) because they accept people change. UKIP, needed that policy asthe only way to stop the paarty being flooded by extremists and to maintain it's facade of not being extremist

But hey the party who's only MP's are tory defectors and who lie and are hypocrites are offering something new and different

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If the main stream parties don't address the concerns of the masses, they will seek out smaller parties who appear to addresses those concerns, which will become main stream...

That's what is happening now, you are allowed to vote for any person/party seeking election under the rules of UK democracy. "
Very true.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

You should read Ukip's proposed policies on education. They should be able to help you with your grammar and spelling - something that previous governments have obviously failed to do.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

You should read Ukip's proposed policies on education. They should be able to help you with your grammar and spelling - something that previous governments have obviously failed to do.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

UKIP atteact so many racists that they screen their members to try and avoid scandal. Oh and then ignore the fact that their Kent party chair is a former National Front member because he apologised.

Those out and out nazi's Nick Griffin, Tommy Robinson and Paul Golding have all actively encouraged their supporters to back UKIP

Doesn't sound like a non-racist organisation to me

But hey the party who's only MP's are tory defectors and who lie and are hypocrites are offering something new and different"
I don't think most who will vote ukip are under any illusion that they are something new and different but more like myself who will vote for them as they are the only party who want to leave the E U !

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

You should read Ukip's proposed policies on education. They should be able to help you with your grammar and spelling - something that previous governments have obviously failed to do.

Out of interest, what are there policies on education ?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

* their policies

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By *iewMan over a year ago
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Angus & Findhorn

tomorrow's chip paper......

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I suspect if we left the E U they would disband so a lot of Thier _iews and policies are irrelevant ! They are a means to an end and a new beginning !

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I suspect if we left the E U they would disband so a lot of Thier _iews and policies are irrelevant ! They are a means to an end and a new beginning !"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I suspect if we left the E U they would disband so a lot of Thier _iews and policies are irrelevant ! They are a means to an end and a new beginning !

C'mon Hilda, admit it

He's only gettin your vote cos you'd like to shag him

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"tomorrow's chip paper......

"
...Chips today but under ukip you could afford fish as well

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By *iewMan over a year ago
Forum Mod

Angus & Findhorn

"tomorrow's chip paper......

...Chips today but under ukip you could afford fish as well

I can afford it today

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"* their policies "
..

I never realised thumbing meant shagging

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

UKIP atteact so many racists that they screen their members to try and avoid scandal. Oh and then ignore the fact that their Kent party chair is a former National Front member because he apologised.

Those out and out nazi's Nick Griffin, Tommy Robinson and Paul Golding have all actively encouraged their supporters to back UKIP

Doesn't sound like a non-racist organisation to me

But hey the party who's only MP's are tory defectors and who lie and are hypocrites are offering something new and different I don't think most who will vote ukip are under any illusion that they are something new and different but more like myself who will vote for them as they are the only party who want to leave the E U ! "

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"tomorrow's chip paper......

...Chips today but under ukip you could afford fish as well

I can afford it today

"
..

Tory fucker

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By *iewMan over a year ago
Forum Mod

Angus & Findhorn

"tomorrow's chip paper......

...Chips today but under ukip you could afford fish as well

I can afford it today

Tory fucker

yup, bullseye

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I suspect if we left the E U they would disband so a lot of Thier _iews and policies are irrelevant ! They are a means to an end and a new beginning !

C'mon Hilda, admit it

He's only gettin your vote cos you'd like to shag him

"
do you mean Farage ? Can't be me she's blocked me a while back lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"* their policies ..

I never realised thumbing meant shagging

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"* their policies ..

I never realised thumbing meant shagging

You should try it more often

Works wonders for the soul

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm blonde hair with blue eyes ,, I would of been loved ????????"

Well your photo don't show you with blonde hair, looks more dark brown to me !

I won't be voting ukip ever, never ever

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"* their policies ..

I never realised thumbing meant shagging

You should try it more often

Works wonders for the soul

Oops. Almost forgot

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"* their policies ..

I never realised thumbing meant shagging

You should try it more often

Works wonders for the soul

"
...I tried it once... I got a lift off a lorry driver to St Ives

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I suspect if we left the E U they would disband so a lot of Thier _iews and policies are irrelevant ! They are a means to an end and a new beginning !

C'mon Hilda, admit it

He's only gettin your vote cos you'd like to shag him

do you mean Farage ? Can't be me she's blocked me a while back lol

Yup Farage

I think she has succumbed to his sauve demeanour and fancies Farage for a bit of foraging

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Ahhhh the thread got to big just as I was getting my thumb into gear

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By *coutin4girlzMan over a year ago

Moo-Moo land :-)

"Hitler before 1939 ? What a great leader !!!

even when he had been responsible for crimes against humanity you think that's great..? "
Checkout Saudi Arabia on the net while your on about crimes against Humanity, I wouldn't wanna be a woman over there, or anything else for that matter lol Point is we suck up to them not drag them into court coz they got vast wealth....what a hypocritical bunch we are...As for Farage at least he cares about the man/woman in the once proud streets....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I could drool on for hours about MP's and parties, but whats the point ?

We live in a democracy, and we have freedom of speech (debatable). So it matters not, who each personal preferences are, because we will still have the same faces, in power making the same mistakes, and who will annually give THEMSELVES a pay rise without our consent.

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