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"Oh god no, as if Glasgow need anymore bad news " exactly  | |||
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"Oh god no, as if Glasgow need anymore bad news " they say it always comes in 3's | |||
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"Oh god no, as if Glasgow need anymore bad news exactly "Its only one case though, and there are lots of other bad things that people are getting. | |||
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"Oh god no, as if Glasgow need anymore bad news exactly
Its only one case though, and there are lots of other bad things that people are getting."I think you are looking for a reaction Hilda  | |||
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"well i was only a question of time is anyone actually surprised..u cant quarantine the uk ,especially with so many sneaking in so it was just a question of time . " | |||
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"well i was only a question of time is anyone actually surprised..u cant quarantine the uk ,especially with so many sneaking in so it was just a question of time . " None of the suspected or reported cases in the UK have been from people 'sneaking in'. This case is no different; a healthcare worker just back from West Africa. | |||
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"well i was only a question of time is anyone actually surprised..u cant quarantine the uk ,especially with so many sneaking in so it was just a question of time . None of the suspected or reported cases in the UK have been from people 'sneaking in'. This case is no different; a healthcare worker just back from West Africa." | |||
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"well i was only a question of time is anyone actually surprised..u cant quarantine the uk ,especially with so many sneaking in so it was just a question of time . None of the suspected or reported cases in the UK have been from people 'sneaking in'. This case is no different; a healthcare worker just back from West Africa. "Unusually early in a thread for the bullshit, empty rhetoric to start though! | |||
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"Oh god no, as if Glasgow need anymore bad news " glasgows a big place with lots of people, so lots of bad things happening. we don't hear about half of it. | |||
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"its a virus it spreads extremly well. do u seriously think its not been passed on to others .." As far as viruses go, it's actually NOT that easily spread. Much less infectious than the common cold. | |||
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"well i was only a question of time is anyone actually surprised..u cant quarantine the uk ,especially with so many sneaking in so it was just a question of time . None of the suspected or reported cases in the UK have been from people 'sneaking in'. This case is no different; a healthcare worker just back from West Africa." Yeah but haters have to hate. And clearly a reported case of Ebola is going to be linked to immigration. Sadly comments like that, the laziness of them and the lack of any sort of compassion or understanding are as inevitable as they are pathetic | |||
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I'll give you a fiver Ebola gives up first | |||
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"well i was only a question of time is anyone actually surprised..u cant quarantine the uk ,especially with so many sneaking in so it was just a question of time . None of the suspected or reported cases in the UK have been from people 'sneaking in'. This case is no different; a healthcare worker just back from West Africa. Yeah but haters have to hate. And clearly a reported case of Ebola is going to be linked to immigration. Sadly comments like that, the laziness of them and the lack of any sort of compassion or understanding are as inevitable as they are pathetic" And this one can be given a money-grabbing, subsidised scots angle too. It's only a matter of time before someone brings up the referendum... | |||
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"Glasgow!! V Ebola .
I'll give you a fiver Ebola gives up first" | |||
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"well i was only a question of time is anyone actually surprised..u cant quarantine the uk ,especially with so many sneaking in so it was just a question of time . "I am surprised actually....if a country surrounded by water can't run their borders effectively then no country in the world can. I also think it's selfish of the Aid worker to return before being assured they won't contaminate more innocent people (the very opposite of their original intention!) | |||
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"its a virus it spreads extremly well. do u seriously think its not been passed on to others .." It's actually quite difficult to spread it as it's not airborne. It's also relatively easy to control and treat with the right procedures and protocols in place, particularly in the First World. There are far more interesting diseases out there that are fat easier to catch. | |||
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"well i was only a question of time is anyone actually surprised..u cant quarantine the uk ,especially with so many sneaking in so it was just a question of time .
I am surprised actually....if a country surrounded by water can't run their borders effectively then no country in the world can.
I also think it's selfish of the Aid worker to return before being assured they won't contaminate more innocent people (the very opposite of their original intention!)" | |||
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"well i was only a question of time is anyone actually surprised..u cant quarantine the uk ,especially with so many sneaking in so it was just a question of time . None of the suspected or reported cases in the UK have been from people 'sneaking in'. This case is no different; a healthcare worker just back from West Africa. Yeah but haters have to hate. And clearly a reported case of Ebola is going to be linked to immigration. Sadly comments like that, the laziness of them and the lack of any sort of compassion or understanding are as inevitable as they are pathetic And this one can be given a money-grabbing, subsidised scots angle too. It's only a matter of time before someone brings up the referendum..." ..We had a referendum on letting in Ebola!!. Dam that condem lot are quick | |||
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"well i was only a question of time is anyone actually surprised..u cant quarantine the uk ,especially with so many sneaking in so it was just a question of time . None of the suspected or reported cases in the UK have been from people 'sneaking in'. This case is no different; a healthcare worker just back from West Africa. Yeah but haters have to hate. And clearly a reported case of Ebola is going to be linked to immigration. Sadly comments like that, the laziness of them and the lack of any sort of compassion or understanding are as inevitable as they are pathetic And this one can be given a money-grabbing, subsidised scots angle too. It's only a matter of time before someone brings up the referendum..." It looks the only irresponsible fool to connect it to a referendum topic is you with the phrase 'money grabbing, subsidised scots'....you just let your fellow countrymen down with that but carry on regardless. | |||
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"well i was only a question of time is anyone actually surprised..u cant quarantine the uk ,especially with so many sneaking in so it was just a question of time .
I am surprised actually....if a country surrounded by water can't run their borders effectively then no country in the world can.
I also think it's selfish of the Aid worker to return before being assured they won't contaminate more innocent people (the very opposite of their original intention!)"Aid workers are selfish? | |||
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"its a virus it spreads extremly well. do u seriously think its not been passed on to others .. It's actually quite difficult to spread it as it's not airborne. It's also relatively easy to control and treat with the right procedures and protocols in place, particularly in the First World. There are far more interesting diseases out there that are fat easier to catch." Yeah but you can't blame the flu on those pesky immigrants. OR CAN YOU??????? | |||
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"well i was only a question of time is anyone actually surprised..u cant quarantine the uk ,especially with so many sneaking in so it was just a question of time . None of the suspected or reported cases in the UK have been from people 'sneaking in'. This case is no different; a healthcare worker just back from West Africa. Yeah but haters have to hate. And clearly a reported case of Ebola is going to be linked to immigration. Sadly comments like that, the laziness of them and the lack of any sort of compassion or understanding are as inevitable as they are pathetic And this one can be given a money-grabbing, subsidised scots angle too. It's only a matter of time before someone brings up the referendum... It looks the only irresponsible fool to connect it to a referendum topic is you with the phrase 'money grabbing, subsidised scots'....you just let your fellow countrymen down with that but carry on regardless." You just let your fellow countrymen down with your inability to understand that I was taking the piss....  | |||
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"its a virus it spreads extremly well. do u seriously think its not been passed on to others .. It's actually quite difficult to spread it as it's not airborne. It's also relatively easy to control and treat with the right procedures and protocols in place, particularly in the First World. There are far more interesting diseases out there that are fat easier to catch. Yeah but you can't blame the flu on those pesky immigrants. OR CAN YOU??????? "NO NOT THE FLU. | |||
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"its a virus it spreads extremly well. do u seriously think its not been passed on to others .. It's actually quite difficult to spread it as it's not airborne. It's also relatively easy to control and treat with the right procedures and protocols in place, particularly in the First World. There are far more interesting diseases out there that are fat easier to catch. Yeah but you can't blame the flu on those pesky immigrants. OR CAN YOU??????? "Spanish Flu...killed millions; dirty dago bastards! | |||
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"its a virus it spreads extremly well. do u seriously think its not been passed on to others .. It's actually quite difficult to spread it as it's not airborne. It's also relatively easy to control and treat with the right procedures and protocols in place, particularly in the First World. There are far more interesting diseases out there that are fat easier to catch. Yeah but you can't blame the flu on those pesky immigrants. OR CAN YOU??????? ". That's birds.... The feathered variety I should add  | |||
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"well i was only a question of time is anyone actually surprised..u cant quarantine the uk ,especially with so many sneaking in so it was just a question of time . None of the suspected or reported cases in the UK have been from people 'sneaking in'. This case is no different; a healthcare worker just back from West Africa. Yeah but haters have to hate. And clearly a reported case of Ebola is going to be linked to immigration. Sadly comments like that, the laziness of them and the lack of any sort of compassion or understanding are as inevitable as they are pathetic And this one can be given a money-grabbing, subsidised scots angle too. It's only a matter of time before someone brings up the referendum... It looks the only irresponsible fool to connect it to a referendum topic is you with the phrase 'money grabbing, subsidised scots'....you just let your fellow countrymen down with that but carry on regardless. You just let your fellow countrymen down with your inability to understand that I was taking the piss.... "It's such a random unrelated topic to bring up it's difficult to distinguish you being a fool or an attempt at satire. I understand your attemp now ish  | |||
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"well i was only a question of time is anyone actually surprised..u cant quarantine the uk ,especially with so many sneaking in so it was just a question of time . None of the suspected or reported cases in the UK have been from people 'sneaking in'. This case is no different; a healthcare worker just back from West Africa. Yeah but haters have to hate. And clearly a reported case of Ebola is going to be linked to immigration. Sadly comments like that, the laziness of them and the lack of any sort of compassion or understanding are as inevitable as they are pathetic And this one can be given a money-grabbing, subsidised scots angle too. It's only a matter of time before someone brings up the referendum... It looks the only irresponsible fool to connect it to a referendum topic is you with the phrase 'money grabbing, subsidised scots'....you just let your fellow countrymen down with that but carry on regardless. You just let your fellow countrymen down with your inability to understand that I was taking the piss....
It's such a random unrelated topic to bring up it's difficult to distinguish you being a fool or an attempt at satire. I understand your attemp now ish "I was kind of following on from comments of 'it's alright, I'm down south' and 'loads of bad stuff happens in Glasgow who cares' but if you want to call me a fool for mine then knock yourself out. | |||
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"A confirmed case in Glasgow oh dearie me..." Hope the poor person makes a good recovery and that they're the only case. | |||
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"A confirmed case in Glasgow oh dearie me... Hope the poor person makes a good recovery and that they're the only case. " | |||
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"aid workers and journalists who have been in contact with Ebola patients should be quarantined for a week before departure." Good luck with that, given that it can take up to 21 days for the symptoms to develop. | |||
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"A confirmed case in Glasgow oh dearie me... Hope the poor person makes a good recovery and that they're the only case. " | |||
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"aid workers and journalists who have been in contact with Ebola patients should be quarantined for a week before departure. Good luck with that, given that it can take up to 21 days for the symptoms to develop." ..So we're alright till new year then  | |||
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"aid workers and journalists who have been in contact with Ebola patients should be quarantined for a week before departure. Good luck with that, given that it can take up to 21 days for the symptoms to develop...So we're alright till new year then "Always look on the bright side. | |||
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"aid workers and journalists who have been in contact with Ebola patients should be quarantined for a week before departure. Good luck with that, given that it can take up to 21 days for the symptoms to develop...So we're alright till new year then
Always look on the bright side. "Hardly, just looking on the side of facts, up to 21 days, 8-10 on average; rendering a 7 day quarantine fairly chocolate teapot-ish. | |||
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"It's reported that the patient came to Glasgow via Heathrow late last night (presumably) not knowing s/he was infected. I can't think of a better place to spread a disease than a major international airport." If they went around swapping bodily fluids, yeah... | |||
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" Hardly, just looking on the side of facts, up to 21 days, 8-10 on average; rendering a 7 day quarantine fairly chocolate teapot-ish.[/quote Catch the disease, day finishing up work, day to the airport, day travelling, 7 days quarantine. 8-10 days perfect. "So you're going to take the average? As I said, good luck with that. | |||
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"You said chocolate teapot=useless. Infact it would catch most cases wouldnt it? " No, 21 days would catch most cases! | |||
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"aid workers and journalists who have been in contact with Ebola patients should be quarantined for a week before departure." no offence... but you do know how close someone has to be in contact with someone with ebola to actually catch it..... and I mean Close!!!! | |||
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"Oh god no, as if Glasgow need anymore bad news " That poor bloody city. | |||
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"they are saying that the nurse since she got back into glasgow has only been in contact with ONE other person.... she was on a flight coming back from sierra leone to glasgow.... and if she was on a BA london to glasgow flight last night... that means there would have stopped over twice.... they are saying she wasn't showing any symptoms at all yesterday, so the risk to anyone else is negligable..." . It's a voice of sanity.... But I fear it won't stop them arguing ..
Look on the bright side, you come with nothing your going with nothing.
What you lost.... Nothing | |||
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"You said chocolate teapot=useless. Infact it would catch most cases wouldnt it? No, 21 days would catch most cases!" nope. That would catch them all. | |||
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"Are we seriously arguing about the incubation of ebola on here?" No, my argument is that it's Si difficult to spread that there's little point in quarantine in this country and if you are going to quarantine, do it properly | |||
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"Influenza kills way more people. Ans is much more communicable. Just sayin. " stop being helpful, your doing no one any favours | |||
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"Are we seriously arguing about the incubation of ebola on here? No, my argument is that it's Si difficult to spread that there's little point in quarantine in this country and if you are going to quarantine, do it properly "Pointless quarantining in this country, you quarantine before they leave. | |||
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"Influenza kills way more people. Ans is much more communicable. Just sayin. stop being helpful, your doing no one any favours "I'll get mi coat. Or my biohazard suit..... | |||
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"Influenza kills way more people. Ans is much more communicable. Just sayin. stop being helpful, your doing no one any favours
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Or my biohazard suit.....". Yeah I put mine on already I've heard that man flu has broke out in Weston super mare. Fuck it I'm off down the pub, if I'm going out I'm going out happy | |||
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"Influenza kills way more people. Ans is much more communicable. Just sayin. " that was the exact arguement I used in the last ebola scaremongering thread..... in one ear.. at the other... | |||
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"Influenza kills way more people. Ans is much more communicable. Just sayin. stop being helpful, your doing no one any favours
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Or my biohazard suit......
Yeah I put mine on already I've heard that man flu has broke out in Weston super mare.
Fuck it I'm off down the pub, if I'm gowing out I'm going out happy"In mine too! Got all my guns out of the safe now and on my way down to the docks.....gonna nick a boat and go take over an oil platform someplace.... Just in case.....you know how it is..... | |||
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"Influenza kills way more people. Ans is much more communicable. Just sayin. that was the exact arguement I used in the last ebola scaremongering thread..... in one ear.. at the other... " Just seems like common sense....be scared of the scary things...... I think its just the way folk die with Ebola...it catches the imagination more.... | |||
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"well i was only a question of time is anyone actually surprised..u cant quarantine the uk ,especially with so many sneaking in so it was just a question of time . None of the suspected or reported cases in the UK have been from people 'sneaking in'. This case is no different; a healthcare worker just back from West Africa.
Unusually early in a thread for the bullshit, empty rhetoric to start though!" | |||
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"Thousands of old people die each winter because they can't heat their homes. We don't do anything about that because you can't catch old age " | |||
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"well i was only a question of time is anyone actually surprised..u cant quarantine the uk ,especially with so many sneaking in so it was just a question of time . None of the suspected or reported cases in the UK have been from people 'sneaking in'. This case is no different; a healthcare worker just back from West Africa.
Unusually early in a thread for the bullshit, empty rhetoric to start though! "I'm shocked no one has suggested we send the infected person back to Africa yet! | |||
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"well i was only a question of time is anyone actually surprised..u cant quarantine the uk ,especially with so many sneaking in so it was just a question of time . None of the suspected or reported cases in the UK have been from people 'sneaking in'. This case is no different; a healthcare worker just back from West Africa. Yeah but haters have to hate. And clearly a reported case of Ebola is going to be linked to immigration. Sadly comments like that, the laziness of them and the lack of any sort of compassion or understanding are as inevitable as they are pathetic And this one can be given a money-grabbing, subsidised scots angle too. It's only a matter of time before someone brings up the referendum... It looks the only irresponsible fool to connect it to a referendum topic is you with the phrase 'money grabbing, subsidised scots'....you just let your fellow countrymen down with that but carry on regardless. You just let your fellow countrymen down with your inability to understand that I was taking the piss.... "It was obvious to me you were taking the piss: not everyone has a sense of humour! | |||
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"Thousands of old people die each winter because they can't heat their homes. We don't do anything about that because you can't catch old age " we do give a winter heating allowance. | |||
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"aid workers and journalists who have been in contact with Ebola patients should be quarantined for a week before departure. no offence... but you do know how close someone has to be in contact with someone with ebola to actually catch it..... and I mean Close!!!! " I drove through Glasgow once. | |||
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"that's ok im down south." Sorry to burst your bubble but the patient is being flown down to the Royal Free Hospital in London. Never mind Hilda, let's all have a laugh at some voluntary worker's misfortune and the possibility however slight that she may actually die. | |||
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"Influenza kills way more people. Ans is much more communicable. Just sayin. stop being helpful, your doing no one any favours
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Or my biohazard suit......
Yeah I put mine on already I've heard that man flu has broke out in Weston super mare.
Fuck it I'm off down the pub, if I'm gowing out I'm going out happy
In mine too! Got all my guns out of the safe now and on my way down to the docks.....gonna nick a boat and go take over an oil platform someplace....
Just in case.....you know how it is.....". Just come back from pub but insisted on same glass, somebody dark came in and we all evacuated shouting bring out you're dead.. It was a close call but I made it home without anyone licking my chicken chow mein | |||
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"Some facts about Ebola- it's only spread via bodily fluids. When a case is suspected the patient is tested for both Ebola and malaria. This has a maximum 24 he turnaround. Then the patient is transferred to the London Ebola unit when it is confirmed. In this country we have such amazing medicines and antibiotics and we are generally a healthy nation so our bodies can fight the disease. We really do not need to worry in this country " ... Oh dear... I don't quite no how to break this to you... I'll try and be very gentle... If you get Ebola you've got a 50/50 chance with this strain. Zaire is a bit worse it's a 10/90 chance. The antibiotics are pretty much worthless with Ebola your living conditions or should I say your conditions when your ill with it are much more likely to save you.a fit person has a slightly better chance of fighting off Ebola than a not so well person but it's only a 5 % increase. But your right worrying about it won't save you. Malaria kills way more people than Ebola! And last time I looked most people in this country can't even fight man flu off never mind Ebola. | |||
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"So sad for the local area but very worrying for the UK on the whole." Awful for the person involved and their family but not particularly worrying for the UK. We have much greater threats here. | |||
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"Some facts about Ebola- it's only spread via bodily fluids. When a case is suspected the patient is tested for both Ebola and malaria. This has a maximum 24 he turnaround. Then the patient is transferred to the London Ebola unit when it is confirmed. In this country we have such amazing medicines and antibiotics and we are generally a healthy nation so our bodies can fight the disease. We really do not need to worry in this country ... Oh dear... I don't quite no how to break this to you... I'll try and be very gentle... If you get Ebola you've got a 50/50 chance with this strain. Zaire is a bit worse it's a 10/90 chance. The antibiotics are pretty much worthless with Ebola your living conditions or should I say your conditions when your ill with it are much more likely to save you.a fit person has a slightly better chance of fighting off Ebola than a not so well person but it's only a 5 % increase. But your right worrying about it won't save you. Malaria kills way more people than Ebola! And last time I looked most people in this country can't even fight man flu off never mind Ebola. " Which paper did you read this in?!!! I have discussed it at length with infection control but believe the scare mongering if you wish | |||
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"A confirmed case in Glasgow oh dearie me... Hope the poor person makes a good recovery and that they're the only case.
"Such sad news. The thread seems to have gone in a lot of directions but surely we can all agree with View. | |||
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"Some facts about Ebola- it's only spread via bodily fluids. When a case is suspected the patient is tested for both Ebola and malaria. This has a maximum 24 he turnaround. Then the patient is transferred to the London Ebola unit when it is confirmed. In this country we have such amazing medicines and antibiotics and we are generally a healthy nation so our bodies can fight the disease. We really do not need to worry in this country ... Oh dear... I don't quite no how to break this to you... I'll try and be very gentle... If you get Ebola you've got a 50/50 chance with this strain. Zaire is a bit worse it's a 10/90 chance. The antibiotics are pretty much worthless with Ebola your living conditions or should I say your conditions when your ill with it are much more likely to save you.a fit person has a slightly better chance of fighting off Ebola than a not so well person but it's only a 5 % increase. But your right worrying about it won't save you. Malaria kills way more people than Ebola! And last time I looked most people in this country can't even fight man flu off never mind Ebola. Which paper did you read this in?!!! I have discussed it at length with infection control but believe the scare mongering if you wish " . Straight from the un and CDC papers released this month, you can download them for free at the CDC website... PS I haven't bought a paper for ooooo 17 years | |||
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"Are we seriously arguing about the incubation of ebola on here?" Yes, whatever next. | |||
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"Some facts about Ebola- it's only spread via bodily fluids. When a case is suspected the patient is tested for both Ebola and malaria. This has a maximum 24 he turnaround. Then the patient is transferred to the London Ebola unit when it is confirmed. In this country we have such amazing medicines and antibiotics and we are generally a healthy nation so our bodies can fight the disease. We really do not need to worry in this country ... Oh dear... I don't quite no how to break this to you... I'll try and be very gentle... If you get Ebola you've got a 50/50 chance with this strain. Zaire is a bit worse it's a 10/90 chance. The antibiotics are pretty much worthless with Ebola your living conditions or should I say your conditions when your ill with it are much more likely to save you.a fit person has a slightly better chance of fighting off Ebola than a not so well person but it's only a 5 % increase. But your right worrying about it won't save you. Malaria kills way more people than Ebola! And last time I looked most people in this country can't even fight man flu off never mind Ebola. " | |||
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"Hope they can be successfully treated "Yes I hope so too .. Last person who had it here is now back over there working again to help save people with this . | |||
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"Rather than worrying and arguing about the incubation period, mortality rate or how close you need to be to an infected person too catch this horror, I think we should all be more concerned with the fact that we only have one treatment centre in the country and that is in the Royal Free! If you all want to worry about something worry about that!" ... How many treatment centres for Ebola do you think we should have then!. I'm guessing as I'm no medical expert that they have a small amount to treat small amounts of patient's but in a very clinical and confined way. It could be that once the numbers of any epidemic get high enough treatment would become secondary anyhow and it would be more about containment than treatment? | |||
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"Rather than worrying and arguing about the incubation period, mortality rate or how close you need to be to an infected person too catch this horror, I think we should all be more concerned with the fact that we only have one treatment centre in the country and that is in the Royal Free! If you all want to worry about something worry about that!" There is more than one treatment centre, there are suitable beds in the RVI in Newcastle among other places. She will have been flown there because it's the centre of excellence for infectious diseases or something. | |||
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" How many will die if it gets out of the Royal Free and into London? To take such a totally unnecessary risk strikes me as total hubris! " OMG. Millions. I'd leave now if I was you. | |||
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"Rather than worrying and arguing about the incubation period, mortality rate or how close you need to be to an infected person too catch this horror, I think we should all be more concerned with the fact that we only have one treatment centre in the country and that is in the Royal Free! If you all want to worry about something worry about that! There is more than one treatment centre, there are suitable beds in the RVI in Newcastle among other places. She will have been flown there because it's the centre of excellence for infectious diseases or something. "A massive two beds set aside  | |||
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"Am I really the only one that sees the elephant in the room? Ebola is extremely infectious and has a MINIMUM FATALITY rate of 50% so rather than set up isolation and treatment centres in isolated and secure places like the CDE Porton Down we set up our treatment centres in hospitals (where there are plenty of potential hosts with immune systems already compromised), and the treatment centre of choice is one of the largest hospitals in the largest city in the UK! How many will die if it gets out of the Royal Free and into London? To take such a totally unnecessary risk strikes me as total hubris! " Where are you getting your facts from? It is NOT extremely infectious, as viruses go. And the death rate you're quoting is based on outbreaks in countries which sadly have much poorer healthcare systems and infection control procedures than Britain does. Get a grip! | |||
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"We can't stop immigration to and from areas that are rife with Ebola cuz it's racist and data worse than anything else in da world eva! " That post is so bad it's given me Ebola | |||
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"Rather than worrying and arguing about the incubation period, mortality rate or how close you need to be to an infected person too catch this horror, I think we should all be more concerned with the fact that we only have one treatment centre in the country and that is in the Royal Free! If you all want to worry about something worry about that! There is more than one treatment centre, there are suitable beds in the RVI in Newcastle among other places. She will have been flown there because it's the centre of excellence for infectious diseases or something. A massive two beds set aside "There are more than two, I just can't remember where the others are. They haven't exactly been queuing around the block for them so far, so 2 seems reasonable at present anyway | |||
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"Only a racist would want to stop Ebola! Even though it's a deadly disease it is vibrant, diverse and multicultural" Not forgetting their are much worst thngs you can get. | |||
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"Some facts about Ebola- it's only spread via bodily fluids. When a case is suspected the patient is tested for both Ebola and malaria. This has a maximum 24 he turnaround. Then the patient is transferred to the London Ebola unit when it is confirmed. In this country we have such amazing medicines and antibiotics and we are generally a healthy nation so our bodies can fight the disease. We really do not need to worry in this country " Here's my question,,,,, you are about to get on a plane and the stewardess says to you " by the way we have someone suffering from ebola on the plane today " would you get on the plane ???? me not a fucking chance !!!! Is the infected person going to London by public transport or in an air ambulance with carers dressed in bio hazard outfits ???? | |||
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"Only a racist would want to stop Ebola! Even though it's a deadly disease it is vibrant, diverse and multicultural Not forgetting their are much worst thngs you can get." Sit down this isn't a help group session | |||
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" To take such a totally unnecessary risk strikes me as total hubris! " Hubris
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"Some facts about Ebola- it's only spread via bodily fluids. When a case is suspected the patient is tested for both Ebola and malaria. This has a maximum 24 he turnaround. Then the patient is transferred to the London Ebola unit when it is confirmed. In this country we have such amazing medicines and antibiotics and we are generally a healthy nation so our bodies can fight the disease. We really do not need to worry in this country Here's my question,,,,, you are about to get on a plane and the stewardess says to you " by the way we have someone suffering from ebola on the plane today " would you get on the plane ???? me not a fucking chance !!!! Is the infected person going to London by public transport or in an air ambulance with carers dressed in bio hazard outfits ???? " She went via the £1 Megabus | |||
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"I saw a news story on Christmas eve about English nurses saying how they wouldn't be spending Christmas with their family because they were in Africa helping Ebola victims who " deserve so much help" I thought that was lovely, to put you immediate family and country in danger because of people several thousand miles away you have never met. Lovely touching logic for Christmas. Made me feel all smug and satisfied." Is this a joke? How are they putting their immediate family and country in danger? I think they deserve the utmost respect, I know I wouldn't be brave enough to do it. This thread is so depressing. Think I'd best go back to the Father Ted one instead. | |||
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"I saw a news story on Christmas eve about English nurses saying how they wouldn't be spending Christmas with their family because they were in Africa helping Ebola victims who " deserve so much help" I thought that was lovely, to put you immediate family and country in danger because of people several thousand miles away you have never met. Lovely touching logic for Christmas. Made me feel all smug and satisfied." Exactly. Bloody foreign diseases coming over here using our NHS. My blood is boiling - which may be Ebola symptom. Best get checked  | |||
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"I saw a news story on Christmas eve about English nurses saying how they wouldn't be spending Christmas with their family because they were in Africa helping Ebola victims who " deserve so much help" I thought that was lovely, to put you immediate family and country in danger because of people several thousand miles away you have never met. Lovely touching logic for Christmas. Made me feel all smug and satisfied. Is this a joke? How are they putting their immediate family and country in danger? I think they deserve the utmost respect, I know I wouldn't be brave enough to do it. This thread is so depressing. Think I'd best go back to the Father Ted one instead. " At least you're good for a cup of tea over there | |||
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"I saw a news story on Christmas eve about English nurses saying how they wouldn't be spending Christmas with their family because they were in Africa helping Ebola victims who " deserve so much help" I thought that was lovely, to put you immediate family and country in danger because of people several thousand miles away you have never met. Lovely touching logic for Christmas. Made me feel all smug and satisfied. Exactly. Bloody foreign diseases coming over here using our NHS. My blood is boiling - which may be Ebola symptom. Best get checked "Yes yes exactly and another thing I noticed from this.....most of these nurses were White English yet the NHS is going out to Africa to employ African nurses to come and work in England.....bloody silly diversity contradictory circumstances. They be confusing to my little simple mind. Must be those complexities papers like The Guardian keep taking about that's beyond my Ken. | |||
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"Where are you getting your facts from? It is NOT extremely infectious, as viruses go. And the death rate you're quoting is based on outbreaks in countries which sadly have much poorer healthcare systems and infection control procedures than Britain does. Get a grip! " Have a look at the Ebola advice published by WHO, I have and that is where I take my facts from, you may also want to log on to the Foreign Office travel advice site and read what they have to say about travel to Sierra Leone... As for Ebola not being extremely infectious, are you truly so naive that you believe the government when it tells you that there is minimal risk of infection while transferring to woman the who has Ebola by special isolation ambulance to a special complete isolation unit (remember the news footage last summer of the bed in a clear plastic isolation igloo) in the Royal Free? As for the comments about the number of beds required, I am not saying that we need more, I am saying that none of them should be in cities, they should be in isolated places where risks can be better managed. | |||
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"I saw a news story on Christmas eve about English nurses saying how they wouldn't be spending Christmas with their family because they were in Africa helping Ebola victims who " deserve so much help" I thought that was lovely, to put you immediate family and country in danger because of people several thousand miles away you have never met. Lovely touching logic for Christmas. Made me feel all smug and satisfied." what an absolute arse but not surprising considering other posts made. They've put their lives on the line to help stop the spread of a disease that if not halted would wipe out 70% of the human populace Fact!!! They should thought of in much the same way as the soldiers who give their lives in foreign countries to protect our freedom | |||
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"Where are you getting your facts from? It is NOT extremely infectious, as viruses go. And the death rate you're quoting is based on outbreaks in countries which sadly have much poorer healthcare systems and infection control procedures than Britain does. Get a grip! Have a look at the Ebola advice published by WHO, I have and that is where I take my facts from, you may also want to log on to the Foreign Office travel advice site and read what they have to say about travel to Sierra Leone... As for Ebola not being extremely infectious, are you truly so naive that you believe the government when it tells you that there is minimal risk of infection while transferring to woman the who has Ebola by special isolation ambulance to a special complete isolation unit (remember the news footage last summer of the bed in a clear plastic isolation igloo) in the Royal Free? As for the comments about the number of beds required, I am not saying that we need more, I am saying that none of them should be in cities, they should be in isolated places where risks can be better managed." So you don't believe the government but trust the advice from the Foreign Office. Right I see where you're coming from now. | |||
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"I saw a news story on Christmas eve about English nurses saying how they wouldn't be spending Christmas with their family because they were in Africa helping Ebola victims who " deserve so much help" I thought that was lovely, to put you immediate family and country in danger because of people several thousand miles away you have never met. Lovely touching logic for Christmas. Made me feel all smug and satisfied. what an absolute arse but not surprising considering other posts made. They've put their lives on the line to help stop the spread of a disease that if not halted would wipe out 70% of the human populace Fact!!! They should thought of in much the same way as the soldiers who give their lives in foreign countries to protect our freedom" So what about all these " highly trained" nurses already in Africa? The NHS for years has been recruiting nurses from Africa to come to the UK to work so why aren't these " highly trained" African nurses not enough to do the job? Given Africa's massive population you'd think they have enough of them right? | |||
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"Where are you getting your facts from? It is NOT extremely infectious, as viruses go. And the death rate you're quoting is based on outbreaks in countries which sadly have much poorer healthcare systems and infection control procedures than Britain does. Get a grip! Have a look at the Ebola advice published by WHO, I have and that is where I take my facts from, you may also want to log on to the Foreign Office travel advice site and read what they have to say about travel to Sierra Leone... As for Ebola not being extremely infectious, are you truly so naive that you believe the government when it tells you that there is minimal risk of infection while transferring to woman the who has Ebola by special isolation ambulance to a special complete isolation unit (remember the news footage last summer of the bed in a clear plastic isolation igloo) in the Royal Free? As for the comments about the number of beds required, I am not saying that we need more, I am saying that none of them should be in cities, they should be in isolated places where risks can be better managed." They are taking precautions and minimising risk to anyone else as much as possible. As they absolutely should do. The risk may be minimal but it's still there. That doesn't change the fact that it is still relatively difficult to become infected with Ebola. The travel advice is about minimising risk to yourself. The treatment centre being within a hospital makes perfect sense, because that's where patients can receive the best possible care from a range of trained staff - it's not just about isolating them and leaving them to it. And major hospitals are naturally within big cities. Keep test tubes of viruses etc under serious lockdown at Porton Down absolutely, but Ebola isn't an airborne virus so I don't really see the benefit of treating someone in the middle of nowhere. They will still need care from the same number of people. I have considered the facts for myself and made my own mind up - how does that make me naive? | |||
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"I saw a news story on Christmas eve about English nurses saying how they wouldn't be spending Christmas with their family because they were in Africa helping Ebola victims who " deserve so much help" I thought that was lovely, to put you immediate family and country in danger because of people several thousand miles away you have never met. Lovely touching logic for Christmas. Made me feel all smug and satisfied. Is this a joke? How are they putting their immediate family and country in danger? I think they deserve the utmost respect, I know I wouldn't be brave enough to do it. This thread is so depressing. Think I'd best go back to the Father Ted one instead. At least you're good for a cup of tea over there" I hope I don't catch Ebola from it though... | |||
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"I saw a news story on Christmas eve about English nurses saying how they wouldn't be spending Christmas with their family because they were in Africa helping Ebola victims who " deserve so much help" I thought that was lovely, to put you immediate family and country in danger because of people several thousand miles away you have never met. Lovely touching logic for Christmas. Made me feel all smug and satisfied. Is this a joke? How are they putting their immediate family and country in danger? I think they deserve the utmost respect, I know I wouldn't be brave enough to do it. This thread is so depressing. Think I'd best go back to the Father Ted one instead. At least you're good for a cup of tea over there I hope I don't catch Ebola from it though... "You'll be grand unless Mrs Doyle spat in it of course | |||
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"So you don't believe the government but trust the advice from the Foreign Office. Right I see where you're coming from now." I don't believe government spokes-wo/men when they tell the country we are not at risk of a killer when it first arrives in this country but advise me not to travel to other countries because of the danger posed by the same killer. Remember the keep calm and carry on posters Auntie had made up in case the Germans invaded in 1940? Anyone think that there just might be a bit of the same going on now and that someone has decided that setting up isolation units in uninhabited areas might 'send out the wrong message', and therefore risking the virus escaping into high density population centres is an acceptable risk? | |||
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"So you don't believe the government but trust the advice from the Foreign Office. Right I see where you're coming from now. I don't believe government spokes-wo/men when they tell the country we are not at risk of a killer when it first arrives in this country but advise me not to travel to other countries because of the danger posed by the same killer. Remember the keep calm and carry on posters Auntie had made up in case the Germans invaded in 1940? Anyone think that there just might be a bit of the same going on now and that someone has decided that setting up isolation units in uninhabited areas might 'send out the wrong message', and therefore risking the virus escaping into high density population centres is an acceptable risk?" Time to let your tinfoil hat out a bit, seems to be a tad tight today | |||
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"So you don't believe the government but trust the advice from the Foreign Office. Right I see where you're coming from now. I don't believe government spokes-wo/men when they tell the country we are not at risk of a killer when it first arrives in this country but advise me not to travel to other countries because of the danger posed by the same killer. Remember the keep calm and carry on posters Auntie had made up in case the Germans invaded in 1940? Anyone think that there just might be a bit of the same going on now and that someone has decided that setting up isolation units in uninhabited areas might 'send out the wrong message', and therefore risking the virus escaping into high density population centres is an acceptable risk?" good point. Actually maybe Ebola is a plot hatched by a "nazi death cult" to take over the world! | |||
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"Where are you getting your facts from? It is NOT extremely infectious, as viruses go. And the death rate you're quoting is based on outbreaks in countries which sadly have much poorer healthcare systems and infection control procedures than Britain does. Get a grip! Have a look at the Ebola advice published by WHO, I have and that is where I take my facts from, you may also want to log on to the Foreign Office travel advice site and read what they have to say about travel to Sierra Leone... As for Ebola not being extremely infectious, are you truly so naive that you believe the government when it tells you that there is minimal risk of infection while transferring to woman the who has Ebola by special isolation ambulance to a special complete isolation unit (remember the news footage last summer of the bed in a clear plastic isolation igloo) in the Royal Free? As for the comments about the number of beds required, I am not saying that we need more, I am saying that none of them should be in cities, they should be in isolated places where risks can be better managed. They are taking precautions and minimising risk to anyone else as much as possible. As they absolutely should do. The risk may be minimal but it's still there. That doesn't change the fact that it is still relatively difficult to become infected with Ebola. The travel advice is about minimising risk to yourself. The treatment centre being within a hospital makes perfect sense, because that's where patients can receive the best possible care from a range of trained staff - it's not just about isolating them and leaving them to it. And major hospitals are naturally within big cities. Keep test tubes of viruses etc under serious lockdown at Porton Down absolutely, but Ebola isn't an airborne virus so I don't really see the benefit of treating someone in the middle of nowhere. They will still need care from the same number of people. I have considered the facts for myself and made my own mind up - how does that make me naive? " Really, you have considered the facts... Keep the test tubes completely locked down in CDE, but keep infectious Ebola factories in city hospitals because that's where the doctors, nurses and health workers are. You are a genius! Me not being in your intellectual league, I would have set up the isolation unit in the CDE where they have the infrastructure and decades of experience of safely handling killer bugs and viruses. Then, when required, I would move those medics with the required skill sets to treat the patients in a place where they could be kept in secure isolation. | |||
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"I saw a news story on Christmas eve about English nurses saying how they wouldn't be spending Christmas with their family because they were in Africa helping Ebola victims who " deserve so much help" I thought that was lovely, to put you immediate family and country in danger because of people several thousand miles away you have never met. Lovely touching logic for Christmas. Made me feel all smug and satisfied." sad and ignorant to boot.. the sickening lack of humanity and empathy is ever present.. | |||
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" How many will die if it gets out of the Royal Free and into London? To take such a totally unnecessary risk strikes me as total hubris! how will it 'get out'..? its not airborne.." Shh quiet! The all knowing wise one has spoken. He knows things about stuff | |||
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" How many will die if it gets out of the Royal Free and into London? To take such a totally unnecessary risk strikes me as total hubris! how will it 'get out'..? its not airborne.. Shh quiet! The all knowing wise one has spoken. He knows things about stuff" messages that no one else can hear straight from conspiracy central.. look out.. they're behind you.. | |||
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" How many will die if it gets out of the Royal Free and into London? To take such a totally unnecessary risk strikes me as total hubris! how will it 'get out'..? its not airborne.. Shh quiet! The all knowing wise one has spoken. He knows things about stuff" No, that's me! I'm a genius, he said so! | |||
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" How many will die if it gets out of the Royal Free and into London? To take such a totally unnecessary risk strikes me as total hubris! how will it 'get out'..? its not airborne.. Shh quiet! The all knowing wise one has spoken. He knows things about stuff No, that's me! I'm a genius, he said so! " I don't believe you, you're a government mole sent to hoodwink us gullible fools | |||
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" How many will die if it gets out of the Royal Free and into London? To take such a totally unnecessary risk strikes me as total hubris! how will it 'get out'..? its not airborne.. Shh quiet! The all knowing wise one has spoken. He knows things about stuff" Maybe the same way as it got out of that US hospital, maybe some other way, but I am willing to bet that the isolation unit is not as secure as those in the CDE... By the way, its a virus, viruses mutate and as has been said already in this forum on another thread (by a micro biologist I believe) the virus is the correct size to become airborne. So maybe you should correct your statements to 'it is not airborne yet' and, 'Shh, I'm not listening, and dont want to know stuff'. | |||
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" How many will die if it gets out of the Royal Free and into London? To take such a totally unnecessary risk strikes me as total hubris! how will it 'get out'..? its not airborne.. Shh quiet! The all knowing wise one has spoken. He knows things about stuff No, that's me! I'm a genius, he said so! I don't believe you, you're a government mole sent to hoodwink us gullible fools" Shit! Busted.... | |||
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"I saw a news story on Christmas eve about English nurses saying how they wouldn't be spending Christmas with their family because they were in Africa helping Ebola victims who " deserve so much help" I thought that was lovely, to put you immediate family and country in danger because of people several thousand miles away you have never met. Lovely touching logic for Christmas. Made me feel all smug and satisfied. sad and ignorant to boot.. the sickening lack of humanity and empathy is ever present.." What an emotional response loaded with ad hominems. Of course, lets put the whole planet at risk again because Africans can't stop eating disease ridden creatures from the bush. Close the borders at let nature take its course. Oh I forgot we can't do that because "dat be racist" and that's the worst thing that can ever happen in the history of the universe from now to infinity. Only a horrid bigot would say something so mean. | |||
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" How many will die if it gets out of the Royal Free and into London? To take such a totally unnecessary risk strikes me as total hubris! how will it 'get out'..? its not airborne.. Shh quiet! The all knowing wise one has spoken. He knows things about stuff Maybe the same way as it got out of that US hospital, maybe some other way, but I am willing to bet that the isolation unit is not as secure as those in the CDE... By the way, its a virus, viruses mutate and as has been said already in this forum on another thread (by a micro biologist I believe) the virus is the correct size to become airborne. So maybe you should correct your statements to 'it is not airborne yet' and, 'Shh, I'm not listening, and dont want to know stuff'." No, its not airborne.. end of, as we speak.. what may happen may happen and till it does then it hasn't.. | |||
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" Only a horrid bigot would say something so mean. " i rest my case and stand by what i said.. that you are happy to let people who because of poverty and many other reasons die whilst 'we' can help speaks volumes.. | |||
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" What an emotional response loaded with ad hominems. Of course, lets put the whole planet at risk again because Africans can't stop eating disease ridden creatures from the bush. Close the borders at let nature take its course. Oh I forgot we can't do that because "dat be racist" and that's the worst thing that can ever happen in the history of the universe from now to infinity. Only a horrid bigot would say something so mean. " I agree but really you should be s hard on yourself.... after-all...you are what you are !,,,, | |||
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" What an emotional response loaded with ad hominems. Of course, lets put the whole planet at risk again because Africans can't stop eating disease ridden creatures from the bush. Close the borders at let nature take its course. Oh I forgot we can't do that because "dat be racist" and that's the worst thing that can ever happen in the history of the universe from now to infinity. Only a horrid bigot would say something so mean. I agree but really you should be s hard on yourself.... after-all...you are what you are !,,,, " | |||
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" Only a horrid bigot would say something so mean. i rest my case and stand by what i said.. that you are happy to let people who because of poverty and many other reasons die whilst 'we' can help speaks volumes.. " And now you present the old "poverty" red herring lol. Yes ALL of Africa is just like those guilt tripping adverts we see 24/7 on television. | |||
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"Rather than worrying and arguing about the incubation period, mortality rate or how close you need to be to an infected person too catch this horror, I think we should all be more concerned with the fact that we only have one treatment centre in the country and that is in the Royal Free! If you all want to worry about something worry about that! There is more than one treatment centre, there are suitable beds in the RVI in Newcastle among other places. She will have been flown there because it's the centre of excellence for infectious diseases or something. A massive two beds set aside
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"She is now in a critical condition.... God bless her xxx" yes god bless her and I hope she get over this .. But not looking good its really taken hold. | |||
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"She is now in a critical condition.... God bless her xxxyes god bless her and I hope she get over this .. But not looking good its really taken hold." No not looking good at all is it. | |||
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"well i was only a question of time is anyone actually surprised..u cant quarantine the uk ,especially with so many sneaking in so it was just a question of time .
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"She (Pauline) said: "As I was beginning to recover, I listened to lots of music when I was in the HLIU and that was a massive help. "I also had lots of Irn-Bru to help me through!" Gaun yersel' lass!" Lol, good for her (although not entirely sure it helped her recovery ) | |||
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"well i was only a question of time is anyone actually surprised..u cant quarantine the uk ,especially with so many sneaking in so it was just a question of time .
I am surprised actually....if a country surrounded by water can't run their borders effectively then no country in the world can.
I also think it's selfish of the Aid worker to return before being assured they won't contaminate more innocent people (the very opposite of their original intention!)
How would you suggest they gain that assurance then? One can only assume they were not exhibiting symptoms or else he or she would've been quarantined on their flight home."God is this thread still going strong!...well to reply to the above question- easy peasy answer.... Anyone heading home is decanted for 21 days to a centre (say within the grounds of the airport they fly from) specifically only for monitoring people to fly home....details could easily be ironed out to keep it a controlled environment. Any other problems needing solved??- my next solution in tomorrow's paper 'world peace- a 2step solution' | |||
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"Pauline Cafferkey is back in hospital in a 'serious condition'. "what a shame good luck to her | |||
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