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over a year ago
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You're taking an elderly (70+) relative for their weekly shop. They are diabetic and on medication for it.
In their trolley among other things they also have cream cakes, chocolate biscuits, golden syrup, jelly babies, twix/ crunchies.
Would you say anything? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Nah, I wouldn't say anything, it'd seem condescending. I've diabetic relatives, they don't deny themselves sweets, they just take more care when eating them. |
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"You're taking an elderly (70+) relative for their weekly shop. They are diabetic and on medication for it.
In their trolley among other things they also have cream cakes, chocolate biscuits, golden syrup, jelly babies, twix/ crunchies.
Would you say anything?"
Fkin 'ell.
I hope you never come shopping with me ![](/icons/s/mrgreen.gif) |
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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago
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"You're taking an elderly (70+) relative for their weekly shop. They are diabetic and on medication for it.
In their trolley among other things they also have cream cakes, chocolate biscuits, golden syrup, jelly babies, twix/ crunchies.
Would you say anything?" Yes, neglecting diabetes for a treat every now n then is ok, but that amount I would ask questions, all too many diabetics neglect their diet and it can lead to very poor health. I tear my hair out with my mum. ![](/icons/s/confused.gif) |
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"You're taking an elderly (70+) relative for their weekly shop. They are diabetic and on medication for it.
In their trolley among other things they also have cream cakes, chocolate biscuits, golden syrup, jelly babies, twix/ crunchies.
Would you say anything?
Yes, neglecting diabetes for a treat every now n then is ok, but that amount I would ask questions, all too many diabetics neglect their diet and it can lead to very poor health. I tear my hair out with my mum. "
It's not a treat... it's the weekly shop. ![](/icons/s/sad.gif) |
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"You're taking an elderly (70+) relative for their weekly shop. They are diabetic and on medication for it.
In their trolley among other things they also have cream cakes, chocolate biscuits, golden syrup, jelly babies, twix/ crunchies.
Would you say anything?
Fkin 'ell.
I hope you never come shopping with me "
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"You're taking an elderly (70+) relative for their weekly shop. They are diabetic and on medication for it.
In their trolley among other things they also have cream cakes, chocolate biscuits, golden syrup, jelly babies, twix/ crunchies.
Would you say anything?Yes, neglecting diabetes for a treat every now n then is ok, but that amount I would ask questions, all too many diabetics neglect their diet and it can lead to very poor health. I tear my hair out with my mum. "
It's weird, really weird
I never (very rarely) ate sweet stuff
Would much sooner have a bag of crisps than a bar of chocolate
Was always a starter than a dessert person.
Then someone tells me I can't have sugar and I want it
All the time !
I would wrestle a man to the ground for a biscuit, get him in a bollock grip til he gives me his cake.
I would maim for a bag of haribos.
Now, it'd bd interesting to hear if other diabetics have had this happen to them or if it's just me being an awkward shit and not liking being told what I can and can't have ![](/icons/s/2/halo.gif) |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Firstly is it all for them ? Is some of it treats for grandchildren ? Do they bake with the syrup for others not them ?
If it's all for them , then personally I'd rather someone said to me - what you doing ? But it depends on personality , for some - telling them what to do , they will do the opposite . The Desmond eating programme is brilliant for diabetics - after going on that , you'd have a different trolley of food ! |
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over a year ago
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I would treat them the same as a child,take out the forbidden items saying you're not having that,or that,or that! Then drag them to the fresh veg aisle and say take your pick I'm buying |
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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago
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"You're taking an elderly (70+) relative for their weekly shop. They are diabetic and on medication for it.
In their trolley among other things they also have cream cakes, chocolate biscuits, golden syrup, jelly babies, twix/ crunchies.
Would you say anything?Yes, neglecting diabetes for a treat every now n then is ok, but that amount I would ask questions, all too many diabetics neglect their diet and it can lead to very poor health. I tear my hair out with my mum.
It's weird, really weird
I never (very rarely) ate sweet stuff
Would much sooner have a bag of crisps than a bar of chocolate
Was always a starter than a dessert person.
Then someone tells me I can't have sugar and I want it
All the time !
I would wrestle a man to the ground for a biscuit, get him in a bollock grip til he gives me his cake.
I would maim for a bag of haribos.
Now, it'd bd interesting to hear if other diabetics have had this happen to them or if it's just me being an awkward shit and not liking being told what I can and can't have " I can be like that with most things , but I am not a diabetic on insulin injections four times a day. She gives me lip service, one day I weighed out 27grams of sugar in a bowl and said right eat that fucker, cause thsts what you just ate. Her face was a picture. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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It's weird, really weird
I never (very rarely) ate sweet stuff
Would much sooner have a bag of crisps than a bar of chocolate
Was always a starter than a dessert person.
Then someone tells me I can't have sugar and I want it
All the time !
I would wrestle a man to the ground for a biscuit, get him in a bollock grip til he gives me his cake.
I would maim for a bag of haribos.
Now, it'd bd interesting to hear if other diabetics have had this happen to them or if it's just me being an awkward shit and not liking being told what I can and can't have "
No I'm the same , if someone tells me I can't have it , I want it! Yet I sat and had a meal with friends recently , they all had desserts , I just had a coffee and I didn't bother me one bit ! At work I've resisted all the boxes of chocs and cakes recently. Fruit was the thing I've struggled to have less of, as they say only have one portion with two hrs in between . |
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The vast majority of diabetics (1, 2, MODY, LADA, juvenile, gestational and I've probably missed a few), are given the absolute bollocks advice that is the NHS eatwell plate.
All carbohydrates are digested as sugar in the body and are addictive, some more so than others. Giving them up is hugely difficult when not replacing them with another source of energy, which is the wrongly accused baddie of saturated fat.
We are also given handfuls of drugs that don't often work because of the crap diet advice and then accused of non-compliance.
I eat less than 30g of carbs a day. I am eight stones lighter with an HbA1c of 4.6 and the blood lipid profile beyond perfect.
I don't want to die in a wheelchair, bumping onto my dialysis machine. |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"I would treat them the same as a child,take out the forbidden items saying you're not having that,or that,or that! Then drag them to the fresh veg aisle and say take your pick I'm buying "
This isn't a child though.
OP, I would talk to them about replacing some items and tell them that I'm only doing it because I want them around a bit longer. But keep it light.
Older people can make their own choices and that includes about their destruction and non-compliance with medical advice. It's not easy to watch and all you can do is voice your care and concern.
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
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I would gently point out that they are buying a lot of sugar for a diabetic. It's possible they are meant as treats for others but I couldn't ignore it. My cousin died from type 1 diabetes. |
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Im diabetic an have most of the same things in my shopping basket,dont mean Im going to eat them all in one go.So your relative is 70+ I bet they the same,a little at a time if your careful wont hurt. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"You're taking an elderly (70+) relative for their weekly shop. They are diabetic and on medication for it.
In their trolley among other things they also have cream cakes, chocolate biscuits, golden syrup, jelly babies, twix/ crunchies.
Would you say anything?Yes, neglecting diabetes for a treat every now n then is ok, but that amount I would ask questions, all too many diabetics neglect their diet and it can lead to very poor health. I tear my hair out with my mum. "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I am concerned that you regard 70 as elderly. You obviously didn't watch Bette Midler on TV? "
you mean to say 70 isn't elderly, just because bette midler is good for her age. |
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By *vsnikkiTV/TS
over a year ago
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"You're taking an elderly (70+) relative for their weekly shop. They are diabetic and on medication for it.
In their trolley among other things they also have cream cakes, chocolate biscuits, golden syrup, jelly babies, twix/ crunchies.
Would you say anything?Yes, neglecting diabetes for a treat every now n then is ok, but that amount I would ask questions, all too many diabetics neglect their diet and it can lead to very poor health. I tear my hair out with my mum.
It's weird, really weird
I never (very rarely) ate sweet stuff
Would much sooner have a bag of crisps than a bar of chocolate
Was always a starter than a dessert person.
Then someone tells me I can't have sugar and I want it
All the time !
I would wrestle a man to the ground for a biscuit, get him in a bollock grip til he gives me his cake.
I would maim for a bag of haribos.
Now, it'd bd interesting to hear if other diabetics have had this happen to them or if it's just me being an awkward shit and not liking being told what I can and can't have "
I'll give you a deep fried cream egg if you'll wrestle me to the ground! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I am concerned that you regard 70 as elderly. You obviously didn't watch Bette Midler on TV?
you mean to say 70 isn't elderly, just because bette midler is good for her age.
70 is the new 50 "
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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"I would treat them the same as a child,take out the forbidden items saying you're not having that,or that,or that! Then drag them to the fresh veg aisle and say take your pick I'm buying
This isn't a child though.
OP, I would talk to them about replacing some items and tell them that I'm only doing it because I want them around a bit longer. But keep it light.
Older people can make their own choices and that includes about their destruction and non-compliance with medical advice. It's not easy to watch and all you can do is voice your care and concern.
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Make sure the pensioner knows what s/he's doing and, if they are - leave them to it. |
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If he was blind I might mention the fact that his diet might put him slightly over the BMI, otherwise I wouldn't be too overly concerned to be honest.
*courtesy of the clueless information department* |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I don't eat biscuits, cakes , sweets or pizzas but they are often in my trolley.
I have visitors who do like them."
Absolutely a fair point but this person doesn't have visitors.
Thank you all. Interesting thread. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"You're taking an elderly (70+) relative for their weekly shop. They are diabetic and on medication for it.
In their trolley among other things they also have cream cakes, chocolate biscuits, golden syrup, jelly babies, twix/ crunchies.
Would you say anything?Yes, neglecting diabetes for a treat every now n then is ok, but that amount I would ask questions, all too many diabetics neglect their diet and it can lead to very poor health. I tear my hair out with my mum. "
A friend of mine, in her thirties, ignored the doctors advice, went into diabetic coma and died - so yes I would hun - though as tactfully as possible! Xx |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I am concerned that you regard 70 as elderly. You obviously didn't watch Bette Midler on TV?
45+ is elderly.
You should know."
Not yet.
Anyway I was joking. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I don't eat biscuits, cakes , sweets or pizzas but they are often in my trolley.
I have visitors who do like them.
Absolutely a fair point but this person doesn't have visitors.
Thank you all. Interesting thread. "
Older people can get confused and forgetful, doesn't hurt to remind them about things. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I would treat them the same as a child,take out the forbidden items saying you're not having that,or that,or that! Then drag them to the fresh veg aisle and say take your pick I'm buying
This isn't a child though.
OP, I would talk to them about replacing some items and tell them that I'm only doing it because I want them around a bit longer. But keep it light.
Older people can make their own choices and that includes about their destruction and non-compliance with medical advice. It's not easy to watch and all you can do is voice your care and concern.
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I know 70 isn't a child but if someone wasn't behaving like an adult I would treat them like a child. I wouldn't stand aside and let a child kill themselves from a diabetic coma |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"I would treat them the same as a child,take out the forbidden items saying you're not having that,or that,or that! Then drag them to the fresh veg aisle and say take your pick I'm buying
This isn't a child though.
OP, I would talk to them about replacing some items and tell them that I'm only doing it because I want them around a bit longer. But keep it light.
Older people can make their own choices and that includes about their destruction and non-compliance with medical advice. It's not easy to watch and all you can do is voice your care and concern.
I know 70 isn't a child but if someone wasn't behaving like an adult I would treat them like a child. I wouldn't stand aside and let a child kill themselves from a diabetic coma"
Working with older people earlier this year the one gripe they all had was being treated like children and being talked down to. One woman, aged 82, was very forceful (and ripe) in her language to make her point. She was non-compliant on her drug regime too but made it clear in her inter_iew with me that she wants to make her own choices.
Both my grandfathers died of diabetic complications and I don't wish a coma on anyone but after you have told an adult what they risk I think it is fair to let them make their own decisions.
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My 76 year old mate who lives in a stylish home and takes walking holidays, from one end of the country to another, and still has a very active a fruity sex life, would tell you to fuck off and mind your own damn business. |
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"My 76 year old mate who lives in a stylish home and takes walking holidays, from one end of the country to another, and still has a very active a fruity sex life, would tell you to fuck off and mind your own damn business. "
Im impressed, doesn't mean they don't get forgetful though does it? |
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"My 76 year old mate who lives in a stylish home and takes walking holidays, from one end of the country to another, and still has a very active a fruity sex life, would tell you to fuck off and mind your own damn business.
Im impressed, doesn't mean they don't get forgetful though does it?"
'They'? I don't get what you're saying. She is a fit, healthy and active woman who travels extensively, teaches and entertains prolifically. She just happens to be 76. I'm forgetful sometimes and I'm 53! |
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"My 76 year old mate who lives in a stylish home and takes walking holidays, from one end of the country to another, and still has a very active a fruity sex life, would tell you to fuck off and mind your own damn business.
Im impressed, doesn't mean they don't get forgetful though does it?
'They'? I don't get what you're saying. She is a fit, healthy and active woman who travels extensively, teaches and entertains prolifically. She just happens to be 76. I'm forgetful sometimes and I'm 53!"
She's a diabetic who buys lots of sugary products ? |
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"You're taking an elderly (70+) relative for their weekly shop. They are diabetic and on medication for it.
In their trolley among other things they also have cream cakes, chocolate biscuits, golden syrup, jelly babies, twix/ crunchies.
Would you say anything?Yes, neglecting diabetes for a treat every now n then is ok, but that amount I would ask questions, all too many diabetics neglect their diet and it can lead to very poor health. I tear my hair out with my mum. "
I'm with you on this one Feme.. Constant battle with my OH!
"Its ok ill just compensate with some more insulin"
We both know it doesn't bloody work that way! ![](/icons/s/2/eh.gif) |
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"My 76 year old mate who lives in a stylish home and takes walking holidays, from one end of the country to another, and still has a very active a fruity sex life, would tell you to fuck off and mind your own damn business.
Im impressed, doesn't mean they don't get forgetful though does it?
'They'? I don't get what you're saying. She is a fit, healthy and active woman who travels extensively, teaches and entertains prolifically. She just happens to be 76. I'm forgetful sometimes and I'm 53!"
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"You're taking an elderly (70+) relative for their weekly shop. They are diabetic and on medication for it.
In their trolley among other things they also have cream cakes, chocolate biscuits, golden syrup, jelly babies, twix/ crunchies.
Would you say anything?"
Possibly; is it for themselves, or for Christmas gifts for family and neighbors?
I would never jump to conclusions.
If it is a regular occurrence then I might be inclined to discuss, in a roundabout way, the importance of dietary intake and health.
That said, to put it into context, would you withhold a cigarette from a relative dying from lung cancer or an alcoholic dying from cirrhosis?
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"You're taking an elderly (70+) relative for their weekly shop. They are diabetic and on medication for it.
In their trolley among other things they also have cream cakes, chocolate biscuits, golden syrup, jelly babies, twix/ crunchies.
Would you say anything?"
Is it your mum? I'd say something if it was my mum, just in an "I'm worried about you" sort of way ![](/icons/s/biggrin.gif) |
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I would make sure I was in their will, get them some life insurance and then start slipping some chocolate and haribo in the trolley too.....bit of Kendal mint cake for good measure.....mwahahahaha! ![](/icons/s/biggrin.gif) |
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By (user no longer on site)
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How many of the 70 years have been as a diabetic? If it's quite a few then I would say nothing. The diet is obviously ok for them, if it's new then try to educate gently. |
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