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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Not being able to share pics and videos of my daughter on social networking with my friends and family who use it because there are other children in them

Proudest mum in the world ever though

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By *inaTitzTV/TS  over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

It's a pain. If you crop and pixel out other faces, the pics would look very, very strange.

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By *isscheekychopsWoman  over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

I guess it safeguards everyone you never know who is lurking about on the internet

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It's never stopped anyone I know from doing it. FB is full of nativitys and such like.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Nativity on crime watch lol

I have the same problems with my little ones nativity

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I guess it safeguards everyone you never know who is lurking about on the internet "

True but what tickles me i we all sign to give consent for the newspapers to post school pics,, we have no way of controlling who views those pics then

Luckily i got a few isolated pictures or ones with friends of hers who said its ok to post

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Nativity on crime watch lol

I have the same problems with my little ones nativity"

selfishly id love to turn around n say 'you dont like social media or anyone taking pics then dont let your child participate'

i know i sound like a right twat but i would hate a world where nothing sinister is going on and parents live in fear of the 'what ifs'..

be dammed if i get a scrap book of my child and its only pictures of her, shes happiest with friends

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It's utter crap our little ones school have banned all video and picture taking altogether. You really want to treasure these moments and because of safeguarding gone mad we aren't even allowed that. We are the parents for god sake

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By *bi HaiveMan  over a year ago
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Cheeseville, Somerset


"It's utter crap our little ones school have banned all video and picture taking altogether. You really want to treasure these moments and because of safeguarding gone mad we aren't even allowed that. We are the parents for god sake "

What's posted on the net - social media or elsewhere - is there forever.

And accessible by anyone.

I totally understand why some parents don't wish their child to be on the net, in the same way as many on Fab hide their identities.

It's personal choice and not something that should be demanded or determined by anyone but the parent of an individual child.

A

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By *issHottieBottieWoman  over a year ago

Kent


"It's utter crap our little ones school have banned all video and picture taking altogether. You really want to treasure these moments and because of safeguarding gone mad we aren't even allowed that. We are the parents for god sake

What's posted on the net - social media or elsewhere - is there forever.

And accessible by anyone.

I totally understand why some parents don't wish their child to be on the net, in the same way as many on Fab hide their identities.

It's personal choice and not something that should be demanded or determined by anyone but the parent of an individual child.

A"

I agree, back in the day people would take pics and they'd go in the family album and get shown to relatives and friends that came to visit. Sadly now due to social media anyone can access those photos. We get told not to put anything on Facebook etc by the nursery.

However I do agree with cute that it's a bit odd that the school can let the papers print the pics but the parents aren't allowed. Seems a bit unfair.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It's utter crap our little ones school have banned all video and picture taking altogether. You really want to treasure these moments and because of safeguarding gone mad we aren't even allowed that. We are the parents for god sake "

Years ago My children's school did this briefly. As a group and with The support of the PTA we argued against this and threatened to go to press and even to court. School backed down. Pics n vids of plays etc are now allowed. There is nothing pervy or untoward in a nativity pay FFS It is just more political correctness gone stupid!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It's utter crap our little ones school have banned all video and picture taking altogether. You really want to treasure these moments and because of safeguarding gone mad we aren't even allowed that. We are the parents for god sake

Years ago My children's school did this briefly. As a group and with The support of the PTA we argued against this and threatened to go to press and even to court. School backed down. Pics n vids of plays etc are now allowed. There is nothing pervy or untoward in a nativity pay FFS It is just more political correctness gone stupid!"

Id say its hysteria whipped up by the media. Especially newspapers one of which in one edition had a countdown to a fifteen years old 16th birthday so they could publish her topless pics. Double standards....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

What about if there is a child in foster care/under adoption and the photos are liked and shared amongst people who unbeknown to them may have friends / family of the birth family in the friends lists, they then find out details of where the children are.. This could be detrimental to a placement.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

we werent allowed to video or photograph at any of my kids schools events - and i totally didnt mind - when my daughter used to trampoline there was an elderly couple used to stand and watch - every week and nobody batted an eye -then we picked up the fact that occasionaly the bloke would be videoing - and then someone noticed that they never took a kid home so they were questioned and asked not to video- one thing led to another and they were bad people - they had been filming the gym.trampoline groups at the sports centre for months - shudders at the thought of that

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By *iss_tressWoman  over a year ago

London


"Not being able to share pics and videos of my daughter on social networking with my friends and family who use it because there are other children in them

Proudest mum in the world ever though "

Doesn't stop anyone I know with kids. Both my sisters just uploaded pictures/videos of their children (7, 11 and 12).

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Bad people exist, they always have. Yes in the modern age of the internet there is more scope for sharing and it is right we need to take precautions but not to the detriment of what should be a normal existence. We repress far too much nowadays and sometimes the dogooders in society do more harm than good.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"What about if there is a child in foster care/under adoption and the photos are liked and shared amongst people who unbeknown to them may have friends / family of the birth family in the friends lists, they then find out details of where the children are.. This could be detrimental to a placement. "

This is very true. Hadn't thought of this one before but my cousin has just adopted and she can't put pictures of her child on FB at all.

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By *irtylondondrMan  over a year ago

southwell

love to meet x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"What about if there is a child in foster care/under adoption and the photos are liked and shared amongst people who unbeknown to them may have friends / family of the birth family in the friends lists, they then find out details of where the children are.. This could be detrimental to a placement. "

Exactly or the mother or father has had to go into a hostel to get away from an abusive partner and because someone puts it on a social media site the ex partner finds out qwhere they are

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I think it's a good thing, nothing worse than trying to enjoy a school play with 150 people jostling for position to take photo's of their kids on their phone.

If a photograph is indeed worth a thousand words digital photography and social media to propagate it on is truly killing conversation.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan  over a year ago

Widnes

The reality is that all these banns on taking photographs of anyone have no legal bases in law.

The situation is quite simple. Any photograph belongs to the person on who's equipment it was taken and they have complete freedom to do what ever they like with it. Any one can take a copy of the photograph at which point the copy becomes the property of the person who owns the device used to make the copy (unless the original owner has claimed a copyright on it).

However there are laws about owning and possessing indecent material and material of a sexual nature relating to children.

So the choice is yours as to whether you want to take a photograph of anything and it is also yours as to what you do with that photograph after you have taken it. Any one or organisation telling you otherwise are operating outside the law and possibly illegally interfering with your rights.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

When ours were in school we werent allowed to take oucs oe videos due to sone of the littke ones being on child orotection but the school would do a vid and pics without those little ones in

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

My little ons school don't allow recording or photographs of any description, but you can buy a DVD of it for a fiver, only problem with this is you get about 3 mins of your child and the rest of other kids you don't know standing picking their noses, and the camera work is shit, they are a great bunch of teachers, but Spielberg they ain't lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"My little ons school don't allow recording or photographs of any description, but you can buy a DVD of it for a fiver, only problem with this is you get about 3 mins of your child and the rest of other kids you don't know standing picking their noses, and the camera work is shit, they are a great bunch of teachers, but Spielberg they ain't lol"

luckily the school my daughter attends is doing this also.. last year it took them about 6 months before the dvd was released though,,

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The reason they have the rule is to protect children in care and vulnerable children. There's a few children in my kids school that it's be dangerous for them and their mums to have their faces plastered over fb.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Nativity on crime watch lol

I have the same problems with my little ones nativity

selfishly id love to turn around n say 'you dont like social media or anyone taking pics then dont let your child participate'

i know i sound like a right twat "

Yes, you're right! It makes you sound like a selfish twat.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Nativity on crime watch lol

I have the same problems with my little ones nativity

selfishly id love to turn around n say 'you dont like social media or anyone taking pics then dont let your child participate'

i know i sound like a right twat

Yes, you're right! It makes you sound like a selfish twat. "

ah well lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The reason they have the rule is to protect children in care and vulnerable children. There's a few children in my kids school that it's be dangerous for them and their mums to have their faces plastered over fb. "

I don't know why anyone would put pics of their kids on the internet at all.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"The reason they have the rule is to protect children in care and vulnerable children. There's a few children in my kids school that it's be dangerous for them and their mums to have their faces plastered over fb.

I don't know why anyone would put pics of their kids on the internet at all. "

Because theres nothing sinister about the images, im proud as punch, its a facility where i can go back 5 years to a set date and see exactly what we were doing then, and ive family and friends all over the world.

personal choice though.

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By *bi HaiveMan  over a year ago
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Cheeseville, Somerset


"The reason they have the rule is to protect children in care and vulnerable children. There's a few children in my kids school that it's be dangerous for them and their mums to have their faces plastered over fb.

I don't know why anyone would put pics of their kids on the internet at all.

Because theres nothing sinister about the images, im proud as punch, its a facility where i can go back 5 years to a set date and see exactly what we were doing then, and ive family and friends all over the world.

personal choice though. "

So can pics/vids not be emailed to specific people? Family and friends you know and trust - rather than anyone?

Personal memories are simple to keep private without having to put on social media.

A

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By *emmefataleWoman  over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville


"The reason they have the rule is to protect children in care and vulnerable children. There's a few children in my kids school that it's be dangerous for them and their mums to have their faces plastered over fb.

I don't know why anyone would put pics of their kids on the internet at all. "

I'm in agreement on this although I can see what Sassy is trying to say, I also never see why people, mention on a site like this about their kids, but again it's a personal choice, we live in an age where people struggle to keep things private.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

What a load of shite,I just saw in the local paper the school choir with young kids in it,also there's always kids in the papers.

Think it's not just weirdos into kids its weirdos that complain too..

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By *emmefataleWoman  over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville


"What a load of shite,I just saw in the local paper the school choir with young kids in it,also there's always kids in the papers.

Think it's not just weirdos into kids its weirdos that complain too.."

So you are saying that people who complain about kids images being on social network are the same as Paedophiles? Really?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"What a load of shite,I just saw in the local paper the school choir with young kids in it,also there's always kids in the papers.

Think it's not just weirdos into kids its weirdos that complain too..So you are saying that people who complain about kids images being on social network are the same as Paedophiles? Really? "

No you got that wrong...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Good points raised about child placement. I started a thread about filming kids rather than watching them . I use my memory . .not my memory card. . Pics help. . But just of my kids . . Not a group . I guess schools have to check the placement situation before doing a year or class pic ? Frightening times we live in really

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It's utter crap our little ones school have banned all video and picture taking altogether. You really want to treasure these moments and because of safeguarding gone mad we aren't even allowed that. We are the parents for god sake "

The school my daughter went to said if you don't want your child photographed they can't be involved in any events.

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By *emmefataleWoman  over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville


"What a load of shite,I just saw in the local paper the school choir with young kids in it,also there's always kids in the papers.

Think it's not just weirdos into kids its weirdos that complain too..So you are saying that people who complain about kids images being on social network are the same as Paedophiles? Really?

No you got that wrong... "

Maybe if you explain your point a little more articulately I wouldn't?

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By *bi HaiveMan  over a year ago
Forum Mod

Cheeseville, Somerset


"What a load of shite,I just saw in the local paper the school choir with young kids in it,also there's always kids in the papers.

Think it's not just weirdos into kids its weirdos that complain too.."

Parents have the option to remove children from group shots prior to pictures being taken by press or other parents.

We do.

Hardly weird or a 'load of shite'.

A

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

My opinion has totally changed on this. First I thought what's the harm in taking photos of children and sharing them amongst friends. Then after the posts about adoption/fostering and children who are estranged from violent parents I can understand it now. We won't know the circumstances of every child in the class so their privacy should be respected. The peadophile viewing the pics doesn't really enter into it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"What a load of shite,I just saw in the local paper the school choir with young kids in it,also there's always kids in the papers.

Think it's not just weirdos into kids its weirdos that complain too.."

if our school did anything that was going to be published - in a newspaper or school programme - website we had to sign to say was ok for them to be there -

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The reason they have the rule is to protect children in care and vulnerable children. There's a few children in my kids school that it's be dangerous for them and their mums to have their faces plastered over fb.

I don't know why anyone would put pics of their kids on the internet at all.

Because theres nothing sinister about the images, im proud as punch, its a facility where i can go back 5 years to a set date and see exactly what we were doing then, and ive family and friends all over the world.

personal choice though. "

Yes it's absolutely personal choice and up to you. If it was me I'd email them directly that's all. Photo's have the date recorded on them anyway, so easy to see when they were taken.

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By *ust_for_laughsCouple  over a year ago

Hinckley


"The reality is that all these banns on taking photographs of anyone have no legal bases in law.

The situation is quite simple. Any photograph belongs to the person on who's equipment it was taken and they have complete freedom to do what ever they like with it. Any one can take a copy of the photograph at which point the copy becomes the property of the person who owns the device used to make the copy (unless the original owner has claimed a copyright on it).

However there are laws about owning and possessing indecent material and material of a sexual nature relating to children.

So the choice is yours as to whether you want to take a photograph of anything and it is also yours as to what you do with that photograph after you have taken it. Any one or organisation telling you otherwise are operating outside the law and possibly illegally interfering with your rights."

The bit about copyright is rubbish. As a photographer, if I take a photo, I don't have to 'claim' copyright, it already belongs to me. Copy my picture and you've already breached my copyright, let alone now claiming ownership as you owned the copying equipment!

Apart from that, if photos were taken in a public place, no one can stop you publishing them, wherever you wish. However, I don't know how this works legally if the school have given you permission to shoot on their property but I am allowed to do anything I wish with wedding photos taken on private property with the permission of the owners (permission to shoot, that is), so unless the photos of children were obscene, there doesn't seem to be a lot that anyone can do to prevent their publication.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"My opinion has totally changed on this. First I thought what's the harm in taking photos of children and sharing them amongst friends. Then after the posts about adoption/fostering and children who are estranged from violent parents I can understand it now. We won't know the circumstances of every child in the class so their privacy should be respected. The peadophile viewing the pics doesn't really enter into it. "

There's a story in the news today about this. A mother posted a video of her daughter in the school nativity on Facebook but she's been asked to take it down. There are children at the school with court orders to protect their identity- having the video on fb could put them at risk. Yet the mother is bitching a fit about having to remove the video.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"My opinion has totally changed on this. First I thought what's the harm in taking photos of children and sharing them amongst friends. Then after the posts about adoption/fostering and children who are estranged from violent parents I can understand it now. We won't know the circumstances of every child in the class so their privacy should be respected. The peadophile viewing the pics doesn't really enter into it.

There's a story in the news today about this. A mother posted a video of her daughter in the school nativity on Facebook but she's been asked to take it down. There are children at the school with court orders to protect their identity- having the video on fb could put them at risk. Yet the mother is bitching a fit about having to remove the video. "

That's just really selfish. Why does she think her child is more important than the others ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"My opinion has totally changed on this. First I thought what's the harm in taking photos of children and sharing them amongst friends. Then after the posts about adoption/fostering and children who are estranged from violent parents I can understand it now. We won't know the circumstances of every child in the class so their privacy should be respected. The peadophile viewing the pics doesn't really enter into it.

There's a story in the news today about this. A mother posted a video of her daughter in the school nativity on Facebook but she's been asked to take it down. There are children at the school with court orders to protect their identity- having the video on fb could put them at risk. Yet the mother is bitching a fit about having to remove the video.

That's just really selfish. Why does she think her child is more important than the others ? "

Exactly.

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