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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Lad in work wants to go to America but was convicted of drink driving approx 7 years ago. He thinks he won't be able to go without a visa / interview.
I say he should be okay as it's not a crime of "moral turpitude" and I do know someone that has been with no issues.
Any lawyers / others in the know on this? |
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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago
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"Lad in work wants to go to America but was convicted of drink driving approx 7 years ago. He thinks he won't be able to go without a visa / interview.
I say he should be okay as it's not a crime of "moral turpitude" and I do know someone that has been with no issues.
Any lawyers / others in the know on this?" Go on the travel state gov website, got loads of info on there. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Speak to the embassy.
"Arrests and Convictions
We recommend that anyone who have ever been arrested and/or convicted of an offense apply for a visa. In cases where the arrest resulted in a conviction, the individual may be permanently ineligible to receive a visa and in order to travel, a waiver of the permanent ineligibility is required. The Rehabilitation of Offenders Act does not apply to United States visa law. Therefore, even travelers with a spent conviction are required to declare the arrest and/or conviction and apply for a visa.
Documents relating to your arrest and/or conviction
Applicants are required to furnish an ACRO Police Certificate issued within 6 months of the date of the visa interview. Information on obtaining the police certificate is available from ACPO Criminal Records Office (ACRO) website. This Police Certificate covers the whole of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and is sent to the address provided at the time of the application.
All applicants who have been arrested should also complete the personal data form VCU1, and should provide as much detail as possible concerning their arrests/cautions/convictions, including those in a third country.
Important Notice for Applicants applying at the U.S. Embassy in London. The original police certificate will be retained on file by the Embassy. Applicants who wish to have the original document returned to them on the day of the interview should also bring a photocopy of the document and a stamped, self-addressed envelope." |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Hmmmm he's seen all this but the question on the ESTA doesn't ask about convictions other than "moral turpitude".
I'm not a lawyer though.
Personally I've told him to go through the embassy but it seems time consuming and very expensive!
Anyone had similar experience? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Hmmmm he's seen all this but the question on the ESTA doesn't ask about convictions other than "moral turpitude".
I'm not a lawyer though.
Personally I've told him to go through the embassy but it seems time consuming and very expensive!
Anyone had similar experience?"
Yes , he'll be fine. Just do the ESTA. No need for anything else. |
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"Makes my caravan holiday in Cornwall all the more appealing.
Do you tarmac driveways as well? "
No, nor do I hijack other peoples threads with inane comments. Still to the topic which is holidays. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"As the other users have saus just fill in the ESTA, it will be fine, i've been a few times, and have a spent conviction, you can fill it in online
What was your conviction for? "
Don't answer him. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"As the other users have saus just fill in the ESTA, it will be fine, i've been a few times, and have a spent conviction, you can fill it in online
What was your conviction for?
Don't answer him. "
I have no intention of lol |
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Don't listen to those saying just go you will be fine. He will have to apply for a visa. They are actually very fair in the visa processing. I'd rather not get caught and deported from the U.S. for something that I could of resolved with a visa.
From a person who has gone through the whole US immigration system |
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"As the other users have saus just fill in the ESTA, it will be fine, i've been a few times, and have a spent conviction, you can fill it in online
What was your conviction for?
Don't answer him.
I have no intention of lol"
oh. *down trodden* |
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"As the other users have saus just fill in the ESTA, it will be fine, i've been a few times, and have a spent conviction, you can fill it in online
What was your conviction for?
Don't answer him.
I have no intention of lol
oh. *down trodden* "
There are probably loads on here who have been in the slammer it's just best not to ask lol |
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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago
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"Don't listen to those saying just go you will be fine. He will have to apply for a visa. They are actually very fair in the visa processing. I'd rather not get caught and deported from the U.S. for something that I could of resolved with a visa.
From a person who has gone through the whole US immigration system "
The process is to apply for an ESTA, not a visa. You can appeal the ESTA if you fail and apply for a visa but there is no need for a visa anymore. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Don't listen to those saying just go you will be fine. He will have to apply for a visa. They are actually very fair in the visa processing. I'd rather not get caught and deported from the U.S. for something that I could of resolved with a visa.
From a person who has gone through the whole US immigration system "
Honesty Chop Chops an ESTA is all that is required. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Don't listen to those saying just go you will be fine. He will have to apply for a visa. They are actually very fair in the visa processing. I'd rather not get caught and deported from the U.S. for something that I could of resolved with a visa.
From a person who has gone through the whole US immigration system "
I believe the visa is called ESTA, and mer too, i even had a green card to work there, just be honest thats all id say, and you CAN apply online |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Don't listen to those saying just go you will be fine. He will have to apply for a visa. They are actually very fair in the visa processing. I'd rather not get caught and deported from the U.S. for something that I could of resolved with a visa.
From a person who has gone through the whole US immigration system
The process is to apply for an ESTA, not a visa. You can appeal the ESTA if you fail and apply for a visa but there is no need for a visa anymore."
This ^^^^^ |
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1) sweet stealing at school (caught and punished)
2) sweet stealing at the shop (never caught)
3) a bus journey and a couple of train journeys sans billet - before they had barriers (escaped the imaginary pursuit)
4) speeding (captured on cam and fined)
5) not telling check out people they have made an error in my favour (guilty by omission but not caught) |
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"Don't listen to those saying just go you will be fine. He will have to apply for a visa. They are actually very fair in the visa processing. I'd rather not get caught and deported from the U.S. for something that I could of resolved with a visa.
From a person who has gone through the whole US immigration system
The process is to apply for an ESTA, not a visa. You can appeal the ESTA if you fail and apply for a visa but there is no need for a visa anymore."
Oh ok it's a fair few years since I had to do it all |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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And if he ticks the box on the ESTA and says "No", how are the US Immigration Authorities going to know differently?
I doubt that the terrorists put on the form - "Purpose of visit - to blow something up and kill lots of innocent people", but they seem to get in to the country!
Do the UK really provide a list of all those drivers who have been convicted of drink-driving and provide it to US immigration so they can check it against a list of tourists who want to go on holiday to Florida for a fortnight?
I think they have bigger things to worry about!
I do not think that he is going to bother going to the US Embassy in London and go through all that red-tape just so he can go to Disneyland! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Why would you even ask for legal advice here?
Go to a professional"
You dont need a professional, its so simple to mdo online, and the will email you the ESTA, which by the way lasts for 6 or 12 months |
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"Why would you even ask for legal advice here?
Go to a professional"
Notwithstanding the aforementioned question which, on reflection, could have been misconstrued as a leading question designed, with malice aforethought, a feeding of my insatiable curiosity...your online free lawyer is *IN*
Share your crim records folks and no 'message in a bottle' jokes. |
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Oh I've just had a look at the ESTA form it only asks 2 questions about your criminal record so as long as you are not a drug baron or go around harming people or government officials you should be fine according to the ESTA form |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Oh I've just had a look at the ESTA form it only asks 2 questions about your criminal record so as long as you are not a drug baron or go around harming people or government officials you should be fine according to the ESTA form "
Thats what I've been saying lol, you dont need laywers etc or even to visit the Embassy lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Why would you even ask for legal advice here?
Go to a professional
You dont need a professional, its so simple to mdo online, and the will email you the ESTA, which by the way lasts for 6 or 12 months "
My last ESTA lasted 18 months. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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he'll have no problem...i travel to the US every year..its an easy form,just need to make sure you fill it in in plenty of time..you have to have actually served a custodial sentence of 2 or 3 years,cant remember which,but other than that there's no problem |
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"Oh I've just had a look at the ESTA form it only asks 2 questions about your criminal record so as long as you are not a drug baron or go around harming people or government officials you should be fine according to the ESTA form
Thats what I've been saying lol, you dont need laywers etc or even to visit the Embassy lol "
I'd never seen this form I went through the whole US thing in 2008 the ESTA was brought in 2010.,. |
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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago
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"Why would you even ask for legal advice here?
Go to a professional
You dont need a professional, its so simple to mdo online, and the will email you the ESTA, which by the way lasts for 6 or 12 months "
How long? Try again |
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