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By *oodmess OP Man
over a year ago
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Recent news report about the precautions police are now having to take suggest officers are; to take alternative routes, not wear their uniform outside of hours, not wear it when travelling to/from work, and to improve station security.
Anybody else find this laughable? Where has the respectable face of 'the bobby' disappeared to?
Is this now a position of distrust? |
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over a year ago
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I'm not sure I understand any of the points you make ?
It's based on a threat to officer's from radicalised individuals wanting to murder them ?
Just as service personnel are instructed to do, the police service have to also. |
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"Recent news report about the precautions police are now having to take suggest officers are; to take alternative routes, not wear their uniform outside of hours, not wear it when travelling to/from work, and to improve station security.
Anybody else find this laughable? Where has the respectable face of 'the bobby' disappeared to?
Is this now a position of distrust?"
Is this not down to a security threat from Islamics? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Recent news report about the precautions police are now having to take suggest officers are; to take alternative routes, not wear their uniform outside of hours, not wear it when travelling to/from work, and to improve station security.
Anybody else find this laughable? Where has the respectable face of 'the bobby' disappeared to?
Is this now a position of distrust?"
I think you're missing the point. These warnings come in the wake of threats to Police officer safety that amounts to terrorism, of the sort that occurred to a serving soldier in Woolwich last year.
The problem is not the police, it's the terror threat. Today's restated guidelines are for there own, personal safety when off duty! |
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Think you need to look at the threats from terrorist organisations xx
Lots of threats to our security services which include police officers x do they really get paid enough to be under threat 24/7 I don't think so and what about the people who when convicted are forgotten about! Prison staff they've got em forever! Services cut all over nhs,police,prison,Fire service, ambulance and teachers all being squeezed for years violence crime on the rise ...... No matter what goverment gets in I don't see any change but they need our support x fire personnel on strike today good luck people just wish others were allowed to strike   |
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By *oodmess OP Man
over a year ago
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The threat is being investigated by the counter terrorism unit, but it has neither been released or confirmed that the threat is terror related. Anyone could have made the threat.
My point was more general, in all honesty. It has been years since any police officer has been located locally. |
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"Recent news report about the precautions police are now having to take suggest officers are; to take alternative routes, not wear their uniform outside of hours, not wear it when travelling to/from work, and to improve station security.
Anybody else find this laughable? Where has the respectable face of 'the bobby' disappeared to?
Is this now a position of distrust?"
The military went through the same thing during the 70s & 80, due to various terror organisations, it was that bad cadets were told don't wear your uniform outside of the cadet buildings. Nothing new on this one, just protecting the police force. |
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By *oodmess OP Man
over a year ago
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"Recent news report about the precautions police are now having to take suggest officers are; to take alternative routes, not wear their uniform outside of hours, not wear it when travelling to/from work, and to improve station security.
Anybody else find this laughable? Where has the respectable face of 'the bobby' disappeared to?
Is this now a position of distrust?
The military went through the same thing during the 70s & 80, due to various terror organisations, it was that bad cadets were told don't wear your uniform outside of the cadet buildings. Nothing new on this one, just protecting the police force."
I find it quite poor (I think I am alone on this one), when someone who is upholding the rule of law, does not have the power/respect to walk down their own street |
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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago
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"Recent news report about the precautions police are now having to take suggest officers are; to take alternative routes, not wear their uniform outside of hours, not wear it when travelling to/from work, and to improve station security.
Anybody else find this laughable? Where has the respectable face of 'the bobby' disappeared to?
Is this now a position of distrust?
The military went through the same thing during the 70s & 80, due to various terror organisations, it was that bad cadets were told don't wear your uniform outside of the cadet buildings. Nothing new on this one, just protecting the police force.
I find it quite poor (I think I am alone on this one), when someone who is upholding the rule of law, does not have the power/respect to walk down their own street"
Respect? Can you explain a little more? |
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By *oodmess OP Man
over a year ago
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"Recent news report about the precautions police are now having to take suggest officers are; to take alternative routes, not wear their uniform outside of hours, not wear it when travelling to/from work, and to improve station security.
Anybody else find this laughable? Where has the respectable face of 'the bobby' disappeared to?
Is this now a position of distrust?
The military went through the same thing during the 70s & 80, due to various terror organisations, it was that bad cadets were told don't wear your uniform outside of the cadet buildings. Nothing new on this one, just protecting the police force.
I find it quite poor (I think I am alone on this one), when someone who is upholding the rule of law, does not have the power/respect to walk down their own street
Respect? Can you explain a little more?"
Respect is having the ability to influence those around you, in this case - in a supposed positive way. If they do not have the dignity to live in the area they serve, is that not quite telling of a fear of those areas? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I don't have a lot off time for modern police espcaily the younger ones More . They need to get out from behind speed cameras and back on the beat !"
Maybe if you afforded respect you may get it back? Same applies to those who serve also.
As for the comments further above, officers are patrolling as always, there is no change. |
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Police officers are still murdered in Northern Ireland. They have to be alert. I don't see how this is any different and has nothing to do with mistrust.
Police are very vulnerable to terrorism in their day to day lives as they are so visible in the community. They and we should take all steps to protect them. |
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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago
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"Recent news report about the precautions police are now having to take suggest officers are; to take alternative routes, not wear their uniform outside of hours, not wear it when travelling to/from work, and to improve station security.
Anybody else find this laughable? Where has the respectable face of 'the bobby' disappeared to?
Is this now a position of distrust?
The military went through the same thing during the 70s & 80, due to various terror organisations, it was that bad cadets were told don't wear your uniform outside of the cadet buildings. Nothing new on this one, just protecting the police force.
I find it quite poor (I think I am alone on this one), when someone who is upholding the rule of law, does not have the power/respect to walk down their own street
Respect? Can you explain a little more?
Respect is having the ability to influence those around you, in this case - in a supposed positive way. If they do not have the dignity to live in the area they serve, is that not quite telling of a fear of those areas? "
It was my understanding that they are not allowed to work where they live for their own protection? |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"There is nothing wrong with protecting our police and this is how I see it.
Aren't they supposed to be protecting us?"
I think that is a silly question so wont bother answering.....but what I will say is, policemen and their families could be potential targets from criminals and not just terrorists, so when they are home they should feel safe.
Ok they could still be followed but the less risks they take to being followed the better |
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"There is nothing wrong with protecting our police and this is how I see it.
Aren't they supposed to be protecting us?"
I don't know if you're being serious or not.
Asking the police to be vigilant and discreet on their way to/from work is diligent common sense when they face a terror threat.
Not wearing their uniform is one of the best ways of doing this.
It has absolutely nothing to do with anything other than keeping them safe and alive. |
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Respect is having the ability to influence those around you, in this case - in a supposed positive way. If they do not have the dignity to live in the area they serve, is that not quite telling of a fear of those areas? "
respect is a two way thing, sadly a minority in the police as has been shown have acted in certain ways which even 'some of their own' accept falls short of what is expected..
on the living where they serve many police can no longer simply afford to and have to commute in as do workers in the other 2 emergency services/NHS it has little to do with 'dignity'..
its good common sense to act on what may be a credible threat to staff, on or off duty..
personally unless I learn otherwise I still have respect for their warrant even if they all look so bloody young now days..
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"Recent news report about the precautions police are now having to take suggest officers are; to take alternative routes, not wear their uniform outside of hours, not wear it when travelling to/from work, and to improve station security.
Anybody else find this laughable? Where has the respectable face of 'the bobby' disappeared to?
Is this now a position of distrust?
The military went through the same thing during the 70s & 80, due to various terror organisations, it was that bad cadets were told don't wear your uniform outside of the cadet buildings. Nothing new on this one, just protecting the police force.
I find it quite poor (I think I am alone on this one), when someone who is upholding the rule of law, does not have the power/respect to walk down their own street
Respect? Can you explain a little more?
Respect is having the ability to influence those around you, in this case - in a supposed positive way. If they do not have the dignity to live in the area they serve, is that not quite telling of a fear of those areas? "
Think you'll find officers are not allowed to work in the areas they live and this has been the case for many years. It is not just for their own safety but also the integrity of their work.
Not wanting to be put into contact with people from their daily lives. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Recent news report about the precautions police are now having to take suggest officers are; to take alternative routes, not wear their uniform outside of hours, not wear it when travelling to/from work, and to improve station security.
Anybody else find this laughable? Where has the respectable face of 'the bobby' disappeared to?
Is this now a position of distrust?"
I'll be honest I have a lot of respect for the Glasgow police and would not mess with them one bit |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The threat is being investigated by the counter terrorism unit, but it has neither been released or confirmed that the threat is terror related. Anyone could have made the threat.
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You clearly don't know the definition of terrorism |
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"Recent news report about the precautions police are now having to take suggest officers are; to take alternative routes, not wear their uniform outside of hours, not wear it when travelling to/from work, and to improve station security.
Anybody else find this laughable? Where has the respectable face of 'the bobby' disappeared to?
Is this now a position of distrust?
The military went through the same thing during the 70s & 80, due to various terror organisations, it was that bad cadets were told don't wear your uniform outside of the cadet buildings. Nothing new on this one, just protecting the police force.
I find it quite poor (I think I am alone on this one), when someone who is upholding the rule of law, does not have the power/respect to walk down their own street
Respect? Can you explain a little more?
Respect is having the ability to influence those around you, in this case - in a supposed positive way. If they do not have the dignity to live in the area they serve, is that not quite telling of a fear of those areas? It was my understanding that they are not allowed to work where they live for their own protection?"
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By *oodmess OP Man
over a year ago
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*meh.
A culture of fear within bodies that are supposed to protect us is not a good thing. It makes for reactionary and usually indiscriminate handling of cases. It creates a paradox, a sensitivity either to not act, or to over react.
Whether it is for their safety or not, it doesn't give any reason as to what happened for them to not be within the community before threats like these were made. As I say, they have not been community based for years! |
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By *oodmess OP Man
over a year ago
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"The threat is being investigated by the counter terrorism unit, but it has neither been released or confirmed that the threat is terror related. Anyone could have made the threat.
You clearly don't know the definition of terrorism"
there is no definition of terrorism |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I don't have a lot off time for modern police espcaily the younger ones More . They need to get out from behind speed cameras and back on the beat !"
Well we do have community police officers I know not the same but They have the powers to play apart or to Help out when needed.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Recent news report about the precautions police are now having to take suggest officers are; to take alternative routes, not wear their uniform outside of hours, not wear it when travelling to/from work, and to improve station security.
Anybody else find this laughable? Where has the respectable face of 'the bobby' disappeared to?
Is this now a position of distrust?"
Is this not just common sense? And standard practice? |
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By *oodmess OP Man
over a year ago
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"Recent news report about the precautions police are now having to take suggest officers are; to take alternative routes, not wear their uniform outside of hours, not wear it when travelling to/from work, and to improve station security.
Anybody else find this laughable? Where has the respectable face of 'the bobby' disappeared to?
Is this now a position of distrust?
Is this not just common sense? And standard practice? "
Common sense would be to engage with the problem, rather than 'hide' and tackle it from afar, but yes, that is why I thought it'd be worth discussion. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Anybody else find this laughable? Where has the respectable face of 'the bobby' disappeared to?
Is this now a position of distrust?"
No, I don't find it laughable at all. I don't understand why you ask if it's a position of distrust though  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Is this not down to a security threat from Islamics?"
I believe the word you are looking for there is *terrorists*. Not 'Islamics' (or rather, Muslims). |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Good to see people wheel out the old cliches!!? Speed cameras et al.
Sensible advice given to protect themselves from extremists which is widely reported in the news and people still manage to misconstrue or use this to attack them. Would anybody here want to see a member of the emergency services end up as propaganda like Lee Rigby?
Yes they have bad apples and have had a terrible year for PR but I'm glad I live in this country and am policed by consent. Look across the pond or on the continent for how bad things can be. At least here you have recourse if you shout loud enough. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Recent news report about the precautions police are now having to take suggest officers are; to take alternative routes, not wear their uniform outside of hours, not wear it when travelling to/from work, and to improve station security.
Anybody else find this laughable? Where has the respectable face of 'the bobby' disappeared to?
Is this now a position of distrust?
Is this not just common sense? And standard practice?
Common sense would be to engage with the problem, rather than 'hide' and tackle it from afar, but yes, that is why I thought it'd be worth discussion."
Taking suitable personal safety precautions is not hidong away away or avoiding the problem.
I know Met officers that won't take advantage of their free travel not due to fear but because they don't want the potential drama or hassle of someone gobbing off at them |
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By *oodmess OP Man
over a year ago
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"Anybody else find this laughable? Where has the respectable face of 'the bobby' disappeared to?
Is this now a position of distrust?
No, I don't find it laughable at all. I don't understand why you ask if it's a position of distrust though "
What I see is increasing isolationism. To rationalise police being away from the community so they do not impede any potential investigation (as one poster suggested) is to me, an excuse.
What I see is Missouri, New York, Cleveland and Washington all having issues with excessive policing. Once the Police have fear, bad things can happen on multiples of scale - from resentment to over reaction.
Whether you feel this part of the same discussion or not, the report about the CIA having and their treatment of terrorists released, is absolutely explosive in their appearance to the world. This was born out of the use force to gain information, a removal of themselves from the world - rather than entering a platform of diplomacy and engagement.
It was only reported yesterday that Nils Muižnieks, a commissioner for human rights is extremely concerned and deems the mass surveillance by governments unwarranted and unjustifiable, so much so that he is expected to be called on in ECHR hearing.
Having authority both removed and 'protected' to me is not a way to govern. If someone really wanted to make their mark - they could do so quite easily, and there is nothing we could do. What is worrying to me is
that fear does not make for good enforcement. |
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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago
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"Anybody else find this laughable? Where has the respectable face of 'the bobby' disappeared to?
Is this now a position of distrust?
No, I don't find it laughable at all. I don't understand why you ask if it's a position of distrust though
What I see is increasing isolationism. To rationalise police being away from the community so they do not impede any potential investigation (as one poster suggested) is to me, an excuse.
What I see is Missouri, New York, Cleveland and Washington all having issues with excessive policing. Once the Police have fear, bad things can happen on multiples of scale - from resentment to over reaction.
Whether you feel this part of the same discussion or not, the report about the CIA having and their treatment of terrorists released, is absolutely explosive in their appearance to the world. This was born out of the use force to gain information, a removal of themselves from the world - rather than entering a platform of diplomacy and engagement.
It was only reported yesterday that Nils Muižnieks, a commissioner for human rights is extremely concerned and deems the mass surveillance by governments unwarranted and unjustifiable, so much so that he is expected to be called on in ECHR hearing.
Having authority both removed and 'protected' to me is not a way to govern. If someone really wanted to make their mark - they could do so quite easily, and there is nothing we could do. What is worrying to me is
that fear does not make for good enforcement."
But we are not in the USA, your thread is entitled the local police. |
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By *oodmess OP Man
over a year ago
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"Anybody else find this laughable? Where has the respectable face of 'the bobby' disappeared to?
Is this now a position of distrust?
No, I don't find it laughable at all. I don't understand why you ask if it's a position of distrust though
What I see is increasing isolationism. To rationalise police being away from the community so they do not impede any potential investigation (as one poster suggested) is to me, an excuse.
What I see is Missouri, New York, Cleveland and Washington all having issues with excessive policing. Once the Police have fear, bad things can happen on multiples of scale - from resentment to over reaction.
Whether you feel this part of the same discussion or not, the report about the CIA having and their treatment of terrorists released, is absolutely explosive in their appearance to the world. This was born out of the use force to gain information, a removal of themselves from the world - rather than entering a platform of diplomacy and engagement.
It was only reported yesterday that Nils Muižnieks, a commissioner for human rights is extremely concerned and deems the mass surveillance by governments unwarranted and unjustifiable, so much so that he is expected to be called on in ECHR hearing.
Having authority both removed and 'protected' to me is not a way to govern. If someone really wanted to make their mark - they could do so quite easily, and there is nothing we could do. What is worrying to me is
that fear does not make for good enforcement.But we are not in the USA, your thread is entitled the local police. "
I was giving examples of distrust |
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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago
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"Anybody else find this laughable? Where has the respectable face of 'the bobby' disappeared to?
Is this now a position of distrust?
No, I don't find it laughable at all. I don't understand why you ask if it's a position of distrust though
What I see is increasing isolationism. To rationalise police being away from the community so they do not impede any potential investigation (as one poster suggested) is to me, an excuse.
What I see is Missouri, New York, Cleveland and Washington all having issues with excessive policing. Once the Police have fear, bad things can happen on multiples of scale - from resentment to over reaction.
Whether you feel this part of the same discussion or not, the report about the CIA having and their treatment of terrorists released, is absolutely explosive in their appearance to the world. This was born out of the use force to gain information, a removal of themselves from the world - rather than entering a platform of diplomacy and engagement.
It was only reported yesterday that Nils Muižnieks, a commissioner for human rights is extremely concerned and deems the mass surveillance by governments unwarranted and unjustifiable, so much so that he is expected to be called on in ECHR hearing.
Having authority both removed and 'protected' to me is not a way to govern. If someone really wanted to make their mark - they could do so quite easily, and there is nothing we could do. What is worrying to me is
that fear does not make for good enforcement.But we are not in the USA, your thread is entitled the local police.
I was giving examples of distrust"
In the USA, not in the locality of the UK. Which is irrelevant considering we do not live in any of those states. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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What's mistrust got to do with giving safety advice to your workforce? All employers have a responsibility for health and safety if the job impacts on their home life?
All it breaks down to is personal safety.
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By *oodmess OP Man
over a year ago
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"In the USA, not in the locality of the UK. Which is irrelevant considering we do not live in any of those states."
Though we are embroiled in act first, think later policies. My point is for what reason do the Police have, to not show themselves within their own community. I have absolutely no doubt that if there is a police officer on your street, you will probably know their position. So why can they not police those same streets? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Nothing to do with mistrust! 
Fear is an extremely powerful weapon to subjugate the populationMeaning? "
Meaning we should all get our tin foil hats out and await the arrival of the conspiracy theories.
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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago
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"In the USA, not in the locality of the UK. Which is irrelevant considering we do not live in any of those states.
Though we are embroiled in act first, think later policies. My point is for what reason do the Police have, to not show themselves within their own community. I have absolutely no doubt that if there is a police officer on your street, you will probably know their position. So why can they not police those same streets?"
Oh heavens above, seriously? Read the replies you have gotten already, or do you have an agenda? |
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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago
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"Nothing to do with mistrust!
Fear is an extremely powerful weapon to subjugate the populationMeaning?
Meaning we should all get our tin foil hats out and await the arrival of the conspiracy theories.
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Don't get me started on that.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"In the USA, not in the locality of the UK. Which is irrelevant considering we do not live in any of those states.
Though we are embroiled in act first, think later policies. My point is for what reason do the Police have, to not show themselves within their own community. I have absolutely no doubt that if there is a police officer on your street, you will probably know their position. So why can they not police those same streets?"
Um they do. |
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By *oodmess OP Man
over a year ago
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"What's mistrust got to do with giving safety advice to your workforce? All employers have a responsibility for health and safety if the job impacts on their home life?
All it breaks down to is personal safety.
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The average unskilled worker having a DSE, is not in the same position of supposed respect that an officer should have though?
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By *oodmess OP Man
over a year ago
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"In the USA, not in the locality of the UK. Which is irrelevant considering we do not live in any of those states.
Though we are embroiled in act first, think later policies. My point is for what reason do the Police have, to not show themselves within their own community. I have absolutely no doubt that if there is a police officer on your street, you will probably know their position. So why can they not police those same streets?
Um they do. "
They dont. They live in boroughs away from where they work. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"What's mistrust got to do with giving safety advice to your workforce? All employers have a responsibility for health and safety if the job impacts on their home life?
All it breaks down to is personal safety.
The average unskilled worker having a DSE, is not in the same position of supposed respect that an officer should have though?
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I have a lot of respect for the armed forces and would have respected Lee Rigby  that respect did not stop the people who killed him.
Respect does not stop you getting killed.
Officers on there way to and from work do not carry anything or have there protective equipment. So I fail to see how you question the safety advice given to them. |
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"Recent news report about the precautions police are now having to take suggest officers are; to take alternative routes, not wear their uniform outside of hours, not wear it when travelling to/from work, and to improve station security.
Anybody else find this laughable? Where has the respectable face of 'the bobby' disappeared to?
Is this now a position of distrust?"
Seems common sense as oppose to laughable mate. They are off duty so wear normal clothes, same applies to nurses in nhs (although diff reasons).
I'm sure if a police emergency happened while in casual wear they'd respond like any good citizen would....next problem needing solved?!!
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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago
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"In the USA, not in the locality of the UK. Which is irrelevant considering we do not live in any of those states.
Though we are embroiled in act first, think later policies. My point is for what reason do the Police have, to not show themselves within their own community. I have absolutely no doubt that if there is a police officer on your street, you will probably know their position. So why can they not police those same streets?
Um they do.
They dont. They live in boroughs away from where they work. "
This is ground hog day, are you thinking that the more you keep banging on about the same thing then people will change what they have already said? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Recent news report about the precautions police are now having to take suggest officers are; to take alternative routes, not wear their uniform outside of hours, not wear it when travelling to/from work, and to improve station security.
Anybody else find this laughable? Where has the respectable face of 'the bobby' disappeared to?
Is this now a position of distrust?"
You have a severe case of paranoia there I don't know what has caused it maybe its inhalation. As far as I know going to work in your own clothes is not a capital mistrust the fucker offence. I would just keep laughing there if I was you its the most sensible remark you have made. |
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over a year ago
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"In the USA, not in the locality of the UK. Which is irrelevant considering we do not live in any of those states.
Though we are embroiled in act first, think later policies. My point is for what reason do the Police have, to not show themselves within their own community. I have absolutely no doubt that if there is a police officer on your street, you will probably know their position. So why can they not police those same streets?Oh heavens above, seriously? Read the replies you have gotten already, or do you have an agenda?"
Dont know what kind of agenda I might be trying to push - just posting stuff I thought interesting on my day off. No need to get so het up. |
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"In the USA, not in the locality of the UK. Which is irrelevant considering we do not live in any of those states.
Though we are embroiled in act first, think later policies. My point is for what reason do the Police have, to not show themselves within their own community. I have absolutely no doubt that if there is a police officer on your street, you will probably know their position. So why can they not police those same streets?
Um they do.
They dont. They live in boroughs away from where they work. "
Ha ha no they don't. Local Officers in our area happily live I. The community in which they Police. We have some as friends. The one in my street often nips into to use the facilities in his house and parks the Po Po car outside.
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Your points are pointless op as police for as long as I can remember have never been allowed to work in the borough of which they live. They are not allowed to wear their uniform to or from work or if not on duty and it has also always been recommended that they go alternative routes to and from work.
These points for their own safety are just being reiterated for their own safety. Well more to scaremonger the public really as the threat on them has always been there hence the rules |
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"In the USA, not in the locality of the UK. Which is irrelevant considering we do not live in any of those states.
Though we are embroiled in act first, think later policies. My point is for what reason do the Police have, to not show themselves within their own community. I have absolutely no doubt that if there is a police officer on your street, you will probably know their position. So why can they not police those same streets?Oh heavens above, seriously? Read the replies you have gotten already, or do you have an agenda?
Dont know what kind of agenda I might be trying to push - just posting stuff I thought interesting on my day off. No need to get so het up. "
Lets have a wild guess......hatred of the local constabulary or authority would be my first guess. |
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over a year ago
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"In the USA, not in the locality of the UK. Which is irrelevant considering we do not live in any of those states.
Though we are embroiled in act first, think later policies. My point is for what reason do the Police have, to not show themselves within their own community. I have absolutely no doubt that if there is a police officer on your street, you will probably know their position. So why can they not police those same streets?Oh heavens above, seriously? Read the replies you have gotten already, or do you have an agenda?
Dont know what kind of agenda I might be trying to push - just posting stuff I thought interesting on my day off. No need to get so het up.
Lets have a wild guess......hatred of the local constabulary or authority would be my first guess."
How about an interest in that what is around us, and significantly that what can affect us most? For all your guess work. |
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"In the USA, not in the locality of the UK. Which is irrelevant considering we do not live in any of those states.
Though we are embroiled in act first, think later policies. My point is for what reason do the Police have, to not show themselves within their own community. I have absolutely no doubt that if there is a police officer on your street, you will probably know their position. So why can they not police those same streets?Oh heavens above, seriously? Read the replies you have gotten already, or do you have an agenda?
Dont know what kind of agenda I might be trying to push - just posting stuff I thought interesting on my day off. No need to get so het up.
Lets have a wild guess......hatred of the local constabulary or authority would be my first guess.
How about an interest in that what is around us, and significantly that what can affect us most? For all your guess work. "
Around you? I thought your issue was what pants plod went to work in! At least be honest stop pissing round the post making things up. |
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Around you? I thought your issue was what pants plod went to work in! At least be honest stop pissing round the post making things up."
That is the most reasoned reply on here. If absolute sense was a sport you would be the cup holder!
If you are no interest in that what is around you, then why bother replying to this thread? It is a discussion of ideas. I suppose you could always just throw in a few useless comments and try some not so much E grade psychology for your title win? |
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Around you? I thought your issue was what pants plod went to work in! At least be honest stop pissing round the post making things up.
That is the most reasoned reply on here. If absolute sense was a sport you would be the cup holder!
If you are no interest in that what is around you, then why bother replying to this thread? It is a discussion of ideas. I suppose you could always just throw in a few useless comments and try some not so much E grade psychology for your title win? "
I think the main problem here is that it's unclear what your thread is debating OP. Is it that you believe the Police in general untrustworthy, or you are bemused by the fact that they're under a credible threat and you believe their response is irrational? |
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"In the USA, not in the locality of the UK. Which is irrelevant considering we do not live in any of those states.
Though we are embroiled in act first, think later policies. My point is for what reason do the Police have, to not show themselves within their own community. I have absolutely no doubt that if there is a police officer on your street, you will probably know their position. So why can they not police those same streets?
Um they do.
They dont. They live in boroughs away from where they work. "
For the same reson most teachers don't live near schools they teach in . If you live and work in the same place you are NEVER off duty ! I live in a small town and we have a comunty police station. There are only 5 guys that work there and they do shifts but it's open 7 in morning till 9 at night . Most people in town know the guys and they go to the schools and youth groups reg . A few years back one of my children had an acedent , the officia was 1st there . He took off his coat and gave it to me and then sat with me in the rain for over an hour in just his shirt . Latter that night in hospital. He visited my son in the hospital in his own time to just see if he was ok . There are lots of community policemen and women out there . |
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"Recent news report about the precautions police are now having to take suggest officers are; to take alternative routes, not wear their uniform outside of hours, not wear it when travelling to/from work, and to improve station security.
Anybody else find this laughable? Where has the respectable face of 'the bobby' disappeared to?
Is this now a position of distrust?"
Why on earth would you distrust someone who didn't wear his uniform while travelling off duty. Its an idiotic connection at best and makes no sense at all. |
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over a year ago
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Around you? I thought your issue was what pants plod went to work in! At least be honest stop pissing round the post making things up.
That is the most reasoned reply on here. If absolute sense was a sport you would be the cup holder!
If you are no interest in that what is around you, then why bother replying to this thread? It is a discussion of ideas. I suppose you could always just throw in a few useless comments and try some not so much E grade psychology for your title win?
I think the main problem here is that it's unclear what your thread is debating OP. Is it that you believe the Police in general untrustworthy, or you are bemused by the fact that they're under a credible threat and you believe their response is irrational? "
They dont have a credible threat - that's my point. They have received a letter, that is all, yet are already being advised to take precautions where, if someone wanted to 'make a statement', they could easily find them and act as they wished.
I was asking if policing areas other than your own leads to a lack of respect/distrust or is a sign of disrespect/distrust.
I have had to expand to exaggerate the point of where over-reaction/fear/resentment can lead. Although these examples were more global examples, there are quite a few instances (say with the Met and racism) that are UK/local.
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"You have had far more attention on this thread than it deserves, I don't think you or anyone else knows what point you are trying to make."
I am not trying to make a point. I am asking a question. Thanks for allowing me to read your lack of response. |
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"In the USA, not in the locality of the UK. Which is irrelevant considering we do not live in any of those states.
Though we are embroiled in act first, think later policies. My point is for what reason do the Police have, to not show themselves within their own community. I have absolutely no doubt that if there is a police officer on your street, you will probably know their position. So why can they not police those same streets?Oh heavens above, seriously? Read the replies you have gotten already, or do you have an agenda?
Dont know what kind of agenda I might be trying to push - just posting stuff I thought interesting on my day off. No need to get so het up. "
Your own! , and it is warped as evidenced by correct replies above which you ignore.  |
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"You have had far more attention on this thread than it deserves, I don't think you or anyone else knows what point you are trying to make.
I am not trying to make a point. I am asking a question. Thanks for allowing me to read your lack of response. "
So clarify what people wear to work has to do with distrust you made it in a grammatically dire way. If you ask a question be prepared to answer one. So what has wearing a uniform to do with mistrust I am pretty sure you wont answer because it hasn't any! |
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over a year ago
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"Recent news report about the precautions police are now having to take suggest officers are; to take alternative routes, not wear their uniform outside of hours, not wear it when travelling to/from work, and to improve station security.
Anybody else find this laughable? Where has the respectable face of 'the bobby' disappeared to?
Is this now a position of distrust?
Why on earth would you distrust someone who didn't wear his uniform while travelling off duty. Its an idiotic connection at best and makes no sense at all."
An officer has a duty of law whether in or out of uniform. Simply because they are out of uniform doesn't make them any less of a target or any less culpable if they see a crime and don't act. So why not just use the uniform?
They are as much or a target in it as they are out of it.
Hence my question of respect - as they have policed out of their own areas for years. |
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So clarify what people wear to work has to do with distrust you made it in a grammatically dire way. If you ask a question be prepared to answer one. So what has wearing a uniform to do with mistrust I am pretty sure you wont answer because it hasn't any!"
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"Recent news report about the precautions police are now having to take suggest officers are; to take alternative routes, not wear their uniform outside of hours, not wear it when travelling to/from work, and to improve station security.
Anybody else find this laughable? Where has the respectable face of 'the bobby' disappeared to?
Is this now a position of distrust?
Why on earth would you distrust someone who didn't wear his uniform while travelling off duty. Its an idiotic connection at best and makes no sense at all.
An officer has a duty of law whether in or out of uniform. Simply because they are out of uniform doesn't make them any less of a target or any less culpable if they see a crime and don't act. So why not just use the uniform?
They are as much or a target in it as they are out of it.
Hence my question of respect - as they have policed out of their own areas for years. "
You didn't answer my question. It was why distrust try again. |
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Around you? I thought your issue was what pants plod went to work in! At least be honest stop pissing round the post making things up.
That is the most reasoned reply on here. If absolute sense was a sport you would be the cup holder!
If you are no interest in that what is around you, then why bother replying to this thread? It is a discussion of ideas. I suppose you could always just throw in a few useless comments and try some not so much E grade psychology for your title win?
I think the main problem here is that it's unclear what your thread is debating OP. Is it that you believe the Police in general untrustworthy, or you are bemused by the fact that they're under a credible threat and you believe their response is irrational?
They dont have a credible threat - that's my point. They have received a letter, that is all, yet are already being advised to take precautions where, if someone wanted to 'make a statement', they could easily find them and act as they wished.
I was asking if policing areas other than your own leads to a lack of respect/distrust or is a sign of disrespect/distrust.
I have had to expand to exaggerate the point of where over-reaction/fear/resentment can lead. Although these examples were more global examples, there are quite a few instances (say with the Met and racism) that are UK/local.
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Ok thank you. As I'm currently hidden and thinking about to leaving the site, I'll answer as a serving Officer.
The current threat level from international terrorism is severe meaning it's highly likely that an attack will take place. It's prudent to not travel in uniform to avoid being targeted. When I worked in England, living in the city I worked I was attacked at my home twice in several years. So yes you can live in an area you work.
Community policing is on aspect of the job and there are many other roles.
Am I mistrusted ? By some yes, mainly due to actions of a few idiots which results in me being judged the minute I wear a uniform. Kind of sucks to be told I think this and do that the minute I wear it, when in 20 plus years I've never hit anyone, been fair and tried my best to do my job.
Anyway, the fact is the advice given is with reason and I follow it just like I did years ago as a young soldier.
Just remember Policing across the UK differs so please don't assume your bad experience is indicative of the service in general. |
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Ok thank you. As I'm currently hidden and thinking about to leaving the site, I'll answer as a serving Officer.
The current threat level from international terrorism is severe meaning it's highly likely that an attack will take place. It's prudent to not travel in uniform to avoid being targeted. When I worked in England, living in the city I worked I was attacked at my home twice in several years. So yes you can live in an area you work.
Community policing is on aspect of the job and there are many other roles.
Am I mistrusted ? By some yes, mainly due to actions of a few idiots which results in me being judged the minute I wear a uniform. Kind of sucks to be told I think this and do that the minute I wear it, when in 20 plus years I've never hit anyone, been fair and tried my best to do my job.
Anyway, the fact is the advice given is with reason and I follow it just like I did years ago as a young soldier.
Just remember Policing across the UK differs so please don't assume your bad experience is indicative of the service in general."
thanks! Great to have a reasoned reply on trust!
(I have had no bad experience - I was just posting a thread). |
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"Recent news report about the precautions police are now having to take suggest officers are; to take alternative routes, not wear their uniform outside of hours, not wear it when travelling to/from work, and to improve station security.
Anybody else find this laughable? Where has the respectable face of 'the bobby' disappeared to?
Is this now a position of distrust?
Why on earth would you distrust someone who didn't wear his uniform while travelling off duty. Its an idiotic connection at best and makes no sense at all.
An officer has a duty of law whether in or out of uniform. Simply because they are out of uniform doesn't make them any less of a target or any less culpable if they see a crime and don't act. So why not just use the uniform?
They are as much or a target in it as they are out of it.
Hence my question of respect - as they have policed out of their own areas for years.
You didn't answer my question. It was why distrust try again."
I am very bored now - but it's good to play, so the risk of using very lax etymology, do trust and respect not go hand in hand?
Just throwing a question back at your question about my question of a question... |
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"The threat is being investigated by the counter terrorism unit, but it has neither been released or confirmed that the threat is terror related. Anyone could have made the threat.
My point was more general, in all honesty. It has been years since any police officer has been located locally. "
what nonsense.....wherever they are they are local to there....or do they magically teleport from one station to another..... |
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I recently had to call the police and they couldn't have been more helpful. The policeman that came to my house was respectful to me and very supportive of a difficult situation.
Whether cities are different to more rural settings - I guess so. Here we generally know the officers that cover our area.
It's not a job I would choose to do and as I said I have nothing but praise from my recent experience and after all aren't they here to make us feel safe? I can only go on my personal experience. Irrespective of whether they wear their uniform on their journey to work, travel a different way etc etc ! |
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"Recent news report about the precautions police are now having to take suggest officers are; to take alternative routes, not wear their uniform outside of hours, not wear it when travelling to/from work, and to improve station security.
Anybody else find this laughable? Where has the respectable face of 'the bobby' disappeared to?
I think it's pathetic it's their job
Is this now a position of distrust?"
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"You have ABSOLUTLEY no idea what the modern police officer has to deal with. Do your fear for your life when you travel to work ? I doubt you are that important. "
Thats pretty hard to dispute then.
BUT, why should someone fear for their life if they have respect? Which just so happens to be the question in my first post - if you bother to summon any reading capability. |
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"Recent news report about the precautions police are now having to take suggest officers are; to take alternative routes, not wear their uniform outside of hours, not wear it when travelling to/from work, and to improve station security.
Anybody else find this laughable? Where has the respectable face of 'the bobby' disappeared to?
I think it's pathetic it's their job
Is this now a position of distrust?"
Is your quote "I think it's pathetic, it's their job? If so how is being subject to threats their job? It's not their job to be potentially murdered by some extremists. A serving member of the police force has had creditable death threats made against them and their employers are following policies and procedures in order to safeguard their employees.
Some of these comments on this thread are however it really doesn't surprise me. |
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"You have ABSOLUTLEY no idea what the modern police officer has to deal with. Do your fear for your life when you travel to work ? I doubt you are that important.
Thats pretty hard to dispute then.
BUT, why should someone fear for their life if they have respect? Which just so happens to be the question in my first post - if you bother to summon any reading capability. "
Because some people do not respect anyone ! |
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"You have ABSOLUTLEY no idea what the modern police officer has to deal with. Do your fear for your life when you travel to work ? I doubt you are that important.
Thats pretty hard to dispute then.
BUT, why should someone fear for their life if they have respect? Which just so happens to be the question in my first post - if you bother to summon any reading capability. "
They are guided by professional bodies. The counter terrorist team. They work on information they receive. If they were to ignore it and PC plod is killed on their way to work. Who would be to blame then? The people that carry out these crimes have no respect for ANYONE !!! not even themselves. It's nothing to do with who the police respect. And yes I can read. And yes I respect the police and the laws of this county which in the main means I am going to have a safe journey to work. |
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"You have ABSOLUTLEY no idea what the modern police officer has to deal with. Do your fear for your life when you travel to work ? I doubt you are that important.
Thats pretty hard to dispute then.
BUT, why should someone fear for their life if they have respect? Which just so happens to be the question in my first post - if you bother to summon any reading capability. "
But putting another slant on this terrorists Don't have any respect for police not because of what they've done but simply because of what their uniform represent,surely? Therefore officers could not earn the respect that you are linking to this particular threat? |
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"You have ABSOLUTLEY no idea what the modern police officer has to deal with. Do your fear for your life when you travel to work ? I doubt you are that important.
Thats pretty hard to dispute then.
BUT, why should someone fear for their life if they have respect? Which just so happens to be the question in my first post - if you bother to summon any reading capability.
Because some people do not respect anyone ! "
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"Recent news report about the precautions police are now having to take suggest officers are; to take alternative routes, not wear their uniform outside of hours, not wear it when travelling to/from work, and to improve station security.
Anybody else find this laughable? Where has the respectable face of 'the bobby' disappeared to?
I think it's pathetic it's their job
Is this now a position of distrust?
Is your quote "I think it's pathetic, it's their job? If so how is being subject to threats their job? It's not their job to be potentially murdered by some extremists. A serving member of the police force has had creditable death threats made against them and their employers are following policies and procedures in order to safeguard their employees.
Some of these comments on this thread are however it really doesn't surprise me. "
I am not so shallow to poke fun at someones employment.
I don't know where you have got the idea that 'I believe being a police officer is pathetic' at all?
I find it "laughable" ... as I go on to say in my first post.... that they HAVE to do this, and ask WHY they have to do this! Have they lost respect? But no doubt I will have to re-state the question again and again, as I have been doing. I doubt people will actually stop being judgemental about what I am asking before any debate actually starts as to why it is happening.
It's a bit of a moot point now anyway - as the thread is lost both in translation and argument. Although it is something that interest me, I am not that tremendously interested in responses now.
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"The situation today is pathetic I don't mean in general
What part of the situation today is pathetic? "
Yes I don;t understand the point being made either? |
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They are the police they are there to protect and serve the public how is hiding away pretending not to be the police doing this . They are in danger everyday just like many other people in their jobs. If they ain't gonna do it we will have the army on the streets |
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"They are the police they are there to protect and serve the public how is hiding away pretending not to be the police doing this . They are in danger everyday just like many other people in their jobs. If they ain't gonna do it we will have the army on the streets "
So they should be on duty 24 hours a day?
Again I ask how is taking sensible precaution around personal security and following guidelines that are far from new 'hiding away'? |
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Woop woop this is the sounds of the police . It's all bollocks another form of control don't be fooled lol sure as shit if the shit hits the fan I will be relying on myself not the po po |
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"You have ABSOLUTLEY no idea what the modern police officer has to deal with. Do your fear for your life when you travel to work ? I doubt you are that important.
Thats pretty hard to dispute then.
BUT, why should someone fear for their life if they have respect? Which just so happens to be the question in my first post - if you bother to summon any reading capability. "
The people posing a threat respect no one as they have an idealistic message they wish to send through the medium of terror violence.
The awful be headings of charity workers demonstrate this as all of the good people on the world respect them and they still had much to fear.
It's a nice concept of not fearing anything by earning respect but sadly there has been crime and malice since the year dot and those people offer no respect to those who try and stop them. |
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"Woop woop this is the sounds of the police . It's all bollocks another form of control don't be fooled lol sure as shit if the shit hits the fan I will be relying on myself not the po po "
you have an awful lot of nothing to say on this and the other thread
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"Woop woop this is the sounds of the police . It's all bollocks another form of control don't be fooled lol sure as shit if the shit hits the fan I will be relying on myself not the po po "
Your ignorance is astounding...however all your comments are your opinions ones I don't share...carry on the good work |
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"In your opinion maybe you should go back and read my posts again then have a think do a bit of research and then make your judgement. "
No thanks I have read most of your posts and my opinion still stands |
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Just because you don't agree with me does not make me ignorant and seeing as I trained and worked the law I am actually less ignorant than most on the subject. Yes they are just opinions and I am the only one who hasn't made a personal slight against someone for disagreeing with me you are perfectly entitled to. This does not make me ignorant |
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"Just because you don't agree with me does not make me ignorant and seeing as I trained and worked the law I am actually less ignorant than most on the subject. Yes they are just opinions and I am the only one who hasn't made a personal slight against someone for disagreeing with me you are perfectly entitled to. This does not make me ignorant "
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Ha my dear boy it's the first trick in the book and I would again read and think things are not always what they appear to be I have made no false or inaccurate statements. |
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The police are trained to listen out for key swear words if you say to a copper help a women has just been fuckin ran over or a dude is getting his head fuckin kicked in their first instinct is not to do their job and help they only hear the swearing and instead ofvhelping they try and arrest you for it lol
Further to that your inaccurate sstatements that they are trained to hit people in order to leave no mark ....I can go on ? What part of law did you study ? |
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I find it "laughable" ... as I go on to say in my first post.... that they HAVE to do this, and ask WHY they have to do this! Have they lost respect? But no doubt I will have to re-state the question again and again, as I have been doing. I doubt people will actually stop being judgemental about what I am asking before any debate actually starts as to why it is happening.
It's a bit of a moot point now anyway - as the thread is lost both in translation and argument. Although it is something that interest me, I am not that tremendously interested in responses now.
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Are you not interested in the responses because they weren't what you wanted to hear? I've re-read your posts and I'm still confused about whether you're suggesting the police have lost the respect of the public, or that they themselves have no respect for their office?
I'm not convinced you know what the fuck you're talking about anyway, but it might help clear things up. |
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"Just because you don't agree with me does not make me ignorant and seeing as I trained and worked the law I am actually less ignorant than most on the subject. Yes they are just opinions and I am the only one who hasn't made a personal slight against someone for disagreeing with me you are perfectly entitled to. This does not make me ignorant "
I haven't called anyone ignorant in here. But just to add another twist to this, this warning will be extended to all of the emergency services fireman, nurses, custom officers, army, airforce etc Etc. Why should these people be not be able to be proud of their profession and the jobs they do to give us all the freedom we enjoy in this fine country,.....and be able to walk to work in thier uniforms head held high and chest out....like I said earlier, the people that cause this fear of being killed now prevent this because THEY DONT RESPECT the marvellous people that keep the wheels of this country turning
Getting boring now, so this is my lay post on this subject. Dinner time |
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Mate just because in your day to day role you have had no knowledge of such things does not make it false these are very real things are you in charge of all the forces in the country I very much doubt it you are blankly saying it's inaccurate because you are unaware of it . Such an argument with no evidence would get laughed out of court |
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"Mate just because in your day to day role you have had no knowledge of such things does not make it false these are very real things are you in charge of all the forces in the country I very much doubt it you are blankly saying it's inaccurate because you are unaware of it . Such an argument with no evidence would get laughed out of court "
it is inaccurate and a complete load of rubbish
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"Mate just because in your day to day role you have had no knowledge of such things does not make it false these are very real things are you in charge of all the forces in the country I very much doubt it you are blankly saying it's inaccurate because you are unaware of it . Such an argument with no evidence would get laughed out of court "
You made the blanket statement that it's taught per se and you haven't explained what aspect of law you're qualified in, in order to back up your statements ? |
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In your opinion remember it's just opinions and yours has no more validity than the next person And I am still the only one not making asuptions or throwing insults around and the lawyers are supposed to be the horrible ones |
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"In your opinion remember it's just opinions and yours has no more validity than the next person And I am still the only one not making asuptions or throwing insults around and the lawyers are supposed to be the horrible ones "
lol are you trying to insinuate your a lawyer |
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"In your opinion remember it's just opinions and yours has no more validity than the next person And I am still the only one not making asuptions or throwing insults around and the lawyers are supposed to be the horrible ones "
You're a Lawyer !!! ???
Before you make assumptions. I am not a copper !! Lol.
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I find it "laughable" ... as I go on to say in my first post.... that they HAVE to do this, and ask WHY they have to do this! Have they lost respect? But no doubt I will have to re-state the question again and again, as I have been doing. I doubt people will actually stop being judgemental about what I am asking before any debate actually starts as to why it is happening.
It's a bit of a moot point now anyway - as the thread is lost both in translation and argument. Although it is something that interest me, I am not that tremendously interested in responses now.
Are you not interested in the responses because they weren't what you wanted to hear? I've re-read your posts and I'm still confused about whether you're suggesting the police have lost the respect of the public, or that they themselves have no respect for their office?
I'm not convinced you know what the fuck you're talking about anyway, but it might help clear things up. "
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I find it "laughable" ... as I go on to say in my first post.... that they HAVE to do this, and ask WHY they have to do this! Have they lost respect? But no doubt I will have to re-state the question again and again, as I have been doing. I doubt people will actually stop being judgemental about what I am asking before any debate actually starts as to why it is happening.
It's a bit of a moot point now anyway - as the thread is lost both in translation and argument. Although it is something that interest me, I am not that tremendously interested in responses now.
Are you not interested in the responses because they weren't what you wanted to hear? I've re-read your posts and I'm still confused about whether you're suggesting the police have lost the respect of the public, or that they themselves have no respect for their office?
I'm not convinced you know what the fuck you're talking about anyway, but it might help clear things up. "
Why not just make your reply to whichever you consider relevant? It's not University challenge - opinions are just that - make one.
Thats as polite as I can be given your response. |
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I find it "laughable" ... as I go on to say in my first post.... that they HAVE to do this, and ask WHY they have to do this! Have they lost respect? But no doubt I will have to re-state the question again and again, as I have been doing. I doubt people will actually stop being judgemental about what I am asking before any debate actually starts as to why it is happening.
It's a bit of a moot point now anyway - as the thread is lost both in translation and argument. Although it is something that interest me, I am not that tremendously interested in responses now.
Are you not interested in the responses because they weren't what you wanted to hear? I've re-read your posts and I'm still confused about whether you're suggesting the police have lost the respect of the public, or that they themselves have no respect for their office?
I'm not convinced you know what the fuck you're talking about anyway, but it might help clear things up.
Why not just make your reply to whichever you consider relevant? It's not University challenge - opinions are just that - make one.
Thats as polite as I can be given your response. "
Absolutely, if it was University Challenge I probably would have known the answer.
Well done on being polite, since you won't clarify your question, I won't bother answering and will assume my initial instinct was right (am sure you're gutted). |
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