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We have a log burning stove, it's awesome this time of year. Logs can be quite costly but well worth it. It's also ideal for us as we get plenty of power cuts so can cook on it make brews etc well worth it. Oh and can't beat sex in front of it either |
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"Looking for a bit of advice
Just wondering if anyone on here fits these stoves into people's houses
Please mail me
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can i message you with details of a site with the most comprhensive advice on fitting stoves? |
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"Looking for a bit of advice
Just wondering if anyone on here fits these stoves into people's houses
Please mail me
can i message you with details of a site with the most comprhensive advice on fitting stoves? "
Can you. Thanks |
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By *umpkinMan
over a year ago
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In this world of qualifications you need advice from a HETAS qualified person now else your buildings insurance may be compromised. My brother-in-law had to have a HETAS installer put a log burner into a brand new shepherds hut. And just as well as it turned out as the provision the hut manafacturer provided was totally usuitable to the extent that it was dangerous!
But yes,if you have access to a large supply of DRY well seasoned wood, go for it! If the supply could be intermittent, go for a multi-fuel option that allows you to burn coal. If possible, go for an option to heat your water, even if it`s only the hot tank. And finally, if it`s possible, get one that you put a kettle or whatever on a hot plate! |
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"In this world of qualifications you need advice from a HETAS qualified person now else your buildings insurance may be compromised. My brother-in-law had to have a HETAS installer put a log burner into a brand new shepherds hut. And just as well as it turned out as the provision the hut manafacturer provided was totally usuitable to the extent that it was dangerous!
But yes,if you have access to a large supply of DRY well seasoned wood, go for it! If the supply could be intermittent, go for a multi-fuel option that allows you to burn coal. If possible, go for an option to heat your water, even if it`s only the hot tank. And finally, if it`s possible, get one that you put a kettle or whatever on a hot plate!"
you don't actually have to be a member of an accridited scheme such as hetas, it's quite safe to do it yourself if you involve your lga building control from the outset and you'll save yourself over a grand in cash.
in any case steve who posted the question initially lives in ireland so for him it will be different regs etc. |
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"In this world of qualifications you need advice from a HETAS qualified person now else your buildings insurance may be compromised. My brother-in-law had to have a HETAS installer put a log burner into a brand new shepherds hut. And just as well as it turned out as the provision the hut manafacturer provided was totally usuitable to the extent that it was dangerous!
But yes,if you have access to a large supply of DRY well seasoned wood, go for it! If the supply could be intermittent, go for a multi-fuel option that allows you to burn coal. If possible, go for an option to heat your water, even if it`s only the hot tank. And finally, if it`s possible, get one that you put a kettle or whatever on a hot plate!
you don't actually have to be a member of an accridited scheme such as hetas, it's quite safe to do it yourself if you involve your lga building control from the outset and you'll save yourself over a grand in cash.
in any case steve who posted the question initially lives in ireland so for him it will be different regs etc."
I have been reading about this, there is a lot of good info on the net. I am seriously thinking of going down the diy route using building control.... |
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"In this world of qualifications you need advice from a HETAS qualified person now else your buildings insurance may be compromised. My brother-in-law had to have a HETAS installer put a log burner into a brand new shepherds hut. And just as well as it turned out as the provision the hut manafacturer provided was totally usuitable to the extent that it was dangerous!
But yes,if you have access to a large supply of DRY well seasoned wood, go for it! If the supply could be intermittent, go for a multi-fuel option that allows you to burn coal. If possible, go for an option to heat your water, even if it`s only the hot tank. And finally, if it`s possible, get one that you put a kettle or whatever on a hot plate!
you don't actually have to be a member of an accridited scheme such as hetas, it's quite safe to do it yourself if you involve your lga building control from the outset and you'll save yourself over a grand in cash.
in any case steve who posted the question initially lives in ireland so for him it will be different regs etc.
I have been reading about this, there is a lot of good info on the net. I am seriously thinking of going down the diy route using building control...."
highly recommend you do ..... hetas is an unecessary expence if you're any good with tools. check out "the stove fitters manual" online. it's probably the best info you can get. |
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im built a few of these
heres a bit more info to take note of
make sure it has secondary burn built into the system as this effect gives double the heat for less wood burning
take note the new epa regulations are banning the old systems only the old cookers aga, essa, rayburn that use the heat plate reference are except as they use secondary air burning prebuilt into them from old thats why there except
rocket burner stove is based on this design and i have 2 of these and a dyno d system my design to the dyno v
im just making the central heating system to combine that into a pre existing central heating system thats already installed |
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"im built a few of these
heres a bit more info to take note of
make sure it has secondary burn built into the system as this effect gives double the heat for less wood burning
take note the new epa regulations are banning the old systems only the old cookers aga, essa, rayburn that use the heat plate reference are except as they use secondary air burning prebuilt into them from old thats why there except
rocket burner stove is based on this design and i have 2 of these and a dyno d system my design to the dyno v
im just making the central heating system to combine that into a pre existing central heating system thats already installed "
epa?
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over a year ago
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One last question once you ve have ur stove in and before it's fitted get ur chimney cleaned.
How do u clean ur chimney a year or on after in been installed ?
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epa is usa standered format for air pollution
The federal Environmental Protection Agency
ours is
air quality action plan also smoke control, list of exempt appliances on the DEFRA website.
which is the government site
Defra - Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs.
it is coming over quite soon where old systems are being banned to protect the enviroment of air pollution here within the uk |
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"One last question once you ve have ur stove in and before it's fitted get ur chimney cleaned.
How do u clean ur chimney a year or on after in been installed ?
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do you mean how do you clean it every year after installation? i think this means just cleaning the inside of the flue liner not the chimney itself |
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By *umpkinMan
over a year ago
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"One last question once you ve have ur stove in and before it's fitted get ur chimney cleaned.
How do u clean ur chimney a year or on after in been installed ?
do you mean how do you clean it every year after installation? i think this means just cleaning the inside of the flue liner not the chimney itself"
Special access chamber put into the flue. |
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By *umpkinMan
over a year ago
near the sounds of the wimborne quarter jack! |
"In this world of qualifications you need advice from a HETAS qualified person now else your buildings insurance may be compromised. My brother-in-law had to have a HETAS installer put a log burner into a brand new shepherds hut. And just as well as it turned out as the provision the hut manafacturer provided was totally usuitable to the extent that it was dangerous!
But yes,if you have access to a large supply of DRY well seasoned wood, go for it! If the supply could be intermittent, go for a multi-fuel option that allows you to burn coal. If possible, go for an option to heat your water, even if it`s only the hot tank. And finally, if it`s possible, get one that you put a kettle or whatever on a hot plate!
you don't actually have to be a member of an accridited scheme such as hetas, it's quite safe to do it yourself if you involve your lga building control from the outset and you'll save yourself over a grand in cash.
in any case steve who posted the question initially lives in ireland so for him it will be different regs etc.
I have been reading about this, there is a lot of good info on the net. I am seriously thinking of going down the diy route using building control....
highly recommend you do ..... hetas is an unecessary expence if you're any good with tools. check out "the stove fitters manual" online. it's probably the best info you can get."
But you should still seek the ADVICE of a HETAS engineer as I stated. Mark my words. Just as GAS SAFE, part whatever it is now for sparks have become law, so will HETAS, like it or not.  |
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"But you should still seek the ADVICE of a HETAS engineer as I stated. Mark my words. Just as GAS SAFE, part whatever it is now for sparks have become law, so will HETAS, like it or not. "
no point if you work directly with your lga building control. contrary to popular myth, any competant person may undertake electric work in their home so long as they inform the lga building control prior to the comencement of work, fulfil the requirements of part p of the building regs and comply with BS7671 (17th edition latest ammendments). |
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By (user no longer on site)
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One thing a lot of people underestimate is how much ventilation the room needs not to let fumes out but to let good old oxygen in to replace the oxygen the fire is using. Can be fairly dangerous I believe |
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if you want to take the risk of losing your house insurance i would advise checking with them first before installing them
as someone on another site found out chimney fires caused by Creosote build up from wood fires can destroy your home
as i was saying secondary air within a wood burner is much more efficient than just a normal wood burner using 50%/70% less wood than a normal wood burner
check on youtube type this
secondary burn conversion
what secondary air burning does is 2 things gives you clean burn as well as double the heat output per load
try a view at the new one wittus wood twinfire
try chimneysweeponline.com
if you want to know actual real life heat outputs for a wood stove not fake company heating stats they bend them to there own liking just for a sale |
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if you live in a smoke control area such as sheffield for instance then a stove must be a defra approved tertiary burn system. secondary burn wouldn't be good enough to comply. a list of stove which comply can be found on the defra website. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I've got two, ones made by aga the other by morso.
There both around 4kw both multi burners coal or wood (there's not much difference except a grate at the bottom).
Both cost about 500£ 8 years ago.
I have class 1 chimneys in my house so I just knocked out my hearth slotted it in and put a single walled flue pipe from burner up chimney about 4ft then rammed loft inflation around gap to seal it, hey pesto.
When I want to clean my chimney I just pull pipe out, pull out burner from harth and rod chimney.
Never bothered with a monoxide tester, you can see the smoke pretty easy if it's leaking. |
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"4kw ... no need for external ventilation neither ... which is nice.  "
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I've found them about right.. I think if it was bigger than 4kw you'd need a pretty big room or secondary water otherwise it would boil the room alive.
The morso is very nice and takes slightly larger logs about 12in compared to 10in in the aga but I like the aga.. It's less fiddly..
Oh I think it's important to get a cast iron one, there a little bit more expensive than the steel ones but more robust and probably hold the heat a little bit longer |
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