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"I can see the similarity between Farage and Brand. Both are irritating cunts who have massive egos that need to be stroked on a daily basis. Both are extraordinarily rich but claim to speak for the working man and both have their heads stuck so far up their own arses that all that happens when they open their mouths is shit pours out of it. " Succinctly put.  | |||
"I can see the similarity between Farage and Brand. Both are irritating cunts who have massive egos that need to be stroked on a daily basis. Both are extraordinarily rich but claim to speak for the working man and both have their heads stuck so far up their own arses that all that happens when they open their mouths is shit pours out of it. " | |||
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"Farage is an ex-tory and a banker. Brand is a millionaire celebrity. Hardly challenging the system. More like they are the system." | |||
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"What's your point? I didn't vote for Tony Blair either and I don't read the Daily Mail." Nor me. | |||
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"point? you have 2 guys who challenge torys and labour who are corrupt as fuck and you turn it round on their finances......a pretty petty argument....when taking into account the vast amounts being taken from us by the real villians here ....but lets keep shifting attention away from the truth and pick on a beer drinker and a waffler "Ok let's ignore their finances. They are both still irritating cunts. | |||
"point? you have 2 guys who challenge torys and labour who are corrupt as fuck and you turn it round on their finances......a pretty petty argument....when taking into account the vast amounts being taken from us by the real villians here ....but lets keep shifting attention away from the truth and pick on a beer drinker and a waffler "What truth? | |||
"point? you have 2 guys who challenge torys and labour who are corrupt as fuck and you turn it round on their finances......a pretty petty argument....when taking into account the vast amounts being taken from us by the real villians here ....but lets keep shifting attention away from the truth and pick on a beer drinker and a waffler "I seem to have stumbled into someone's completely surreal nightmare  | |||
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"point? you have 2 guys who challenge torys and labour who are corrupt as fuck and you turn it round on their finances......a pretty petty argument....when taking into account the vast amounts being taken from us by the real villians here ....but lets keep shifting attention away from the truth and pick on a beer drinker and a waffler "I mention their finances as they are both multi-multi millionaires. They are rich. Therefore; they are the system. So how can multi millionaires represent ordinary poor people exactly? | |||
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"so keep reading your daily mail and mirror for the real news....OH NO RUSSELL BRAND SAID SOMETHING1 ...AND NIGE SPOTTED WITH A MYSTERY PINT IN CLACTON ! "Why do you presume we read the daily mail ? | |||
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"point? you have 2 guys who challenge torys and labour who are corrupt as fuck and you turn it round on their finances......a pretty petty argument....when taking into account the vast amounts being taken from us by the real villians here ....but lets keep shifting attention away from the truth and pick on a beer drinker and a waffler "Who are the 'real villains' then? The only real villains are rich people like Farage and Brand for exploiting poor working class people. | |||
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""they challenge the system...ask the questions we all want answers to and are branded nutcases." There's not really a problem with that is there? All sorts of people can challenge the system. It just happens that some are nutcases." Point is rich celebrities and politicians *are* the system, they make a show of being against the system in order to gain ordinary people's support. | |||
"*tiptoes in* I like Brand. *tiptoes out*" * stomps in, tripping over the carpet * Me too * unconscious * | |||
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"I think it's very easy to criticise Russell Brand, he's a millionaire yes, but that doesn't mean he's a hypocrite. He grew up in Grays in a poor family taking hard drugs regularly , he rose from nothing, and has probably been through more difficultly than most people. The guy could quite happily retire tomorrow and never have to do an appearance or write a book again, but he realises the corruption and lies and deciet that is rife throughout the government and if he can make the regular joe public switched on to this, then who honestly cares if he's a millionaire? If he can make the blind see the truth then in my opinion he is best politican we could ever hope for, because your current one are in bed with large corporations, generating war for profits. " This is the one thing that really bugs me. He speaks the truth ? What truth ? | |||
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""they challenge the system...ask the questions we all want answers to and are branded nutcases." There's not really a problem with that is there? All sorts of people can challenge the system. It just happens that some are nutcases. Point is rich celebrities and politicians *are* the system, they make a show of being against the system in order to gain ordinary people's support." You could also read what I wrote as 'just because people challenge the system it doesn't mean they are not nutcases'. That would be my point. | |||
"Farage is an ex-tory and a banker. Brand is a millionaire celebrity. Hardly challenging the system. More like they are the system." Agreed both tossers of highest calibre Farage under investigation for allegedly misusing the mep expenses ironic he is screwibg the system he says screws uk. Brand is a joke ex druggie way he talks seems it affected the shite he spouts. | |||
"*tiptoes in* I like Brand. *tiptoes out*" tiptoes in..me too..i think brands alright..not too sure about farage though..? tiptoes out..  | |||
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"Farage is an ex-tory and a banker. Brand is a millionaire celebrity. Hardly challenging the system. More like they are the system. Agreed both tossers of highest calibre Farage under investigation for allegedly misusing the mep expenses ironic he is screwibg the system he says screws uk. Brand is a joke ex druggie way he talks seems it affected the shite he spouts. " You could also cite both of them as evidence that drinking alcohol and taking drugs kills brain cells. | |||
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"actually I get a sexual kick from the reaction I get on fabs every time I mention nigel farage......im now satisfied.....and happy that this post shall live on.....god bless nige....Russell "It takes all sorts. | |||
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"actually I get a sexual kick from the reaction I get on fabs every time I mention nigel farage......im now satisfied.....and happy that this post shall live on.....god bless nige....Russell
It takes all sorts. "It beats getting a sexual kick out of Nigel Farage. Can you imagine waking up to that face? | |||
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"noticed the new attack on Russell brand in the same vein as the farage onslaught in the media...they challenge the system...ask the questions we all want answers to and are branded nutcases.....in brands case im involved in care for alchoholics and drug addicts and found the documentary he made trying to solve issues made more common sense and insight than any politician ever.....plus he has swung so that's a bonus ! "Farage doesn't ask questions that I want answering !!! Not everyone thinks like him. Both of them are idiotic plonkers who love the sound of their own voice and only value their own opinions !!! IMO  | |||
"perhaps you did not watch the brighton docu where the police agreed with brand on how to deal with drug problem? saving us billions every year in crimes commited by addicts....it made common sense" I completely agree with what Brand says about drugs; doesn't mean I agree with his politics or think he represents me in any way. | |||
"I think it's very easy to criticise Russell Brand, he's a millionaire yes, but that doesn't mean he's a hypocrite. He grew up in Grays in a poor family taking hard drugs regularly , he rose from nothing, and has probably been through more difficultly than most people. The guy could quite happily retire tomorrow and never have to do an appearance or write a book again, but he realises the corruption and lies and deciet that is rife throughout the government and if he can make the regular joe public switched on to this, then who honestly cares if he's a millionaire? If he can make the blind see the truth then in my opinion he is best politican we could ever hope for, because your current one are in bed with large corporations, generating war for profits. This is the one thing that really bugs me. He speaks the truth ? What truth ? " He is explaining to people the corruption which takes place on a regular occurance. That the current government have no interest in the publics interests. They are purely there to serve the corporations, by passing laws to give them tax breaks, or to start wars with foreign countries in order to generate more revenue for arms dealers and then rape and pillage natural resources from those lands all in the name of "terror", they are the greatest terrorists of all, not some poor fucker who watched his mum or little sister burned to pieces in a drone strike. It's the stupidity and absolute blindness which annoys me the most, that people are far more wrspped up in Towie or the x factor than slamming on the brakes and saying, wait a minute wtf is going on here?! | |||
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"But you said 'there's not really a problem with that is there?' I was pointing out that yes; there is a problem with it." I love it when these posts get a bit forensic. The OP wrote "...they challenge the system...ask the questions we all want answers to and are branded nutcases....." Given the context, my interpretation was that the OP meant that it is wrong to brand them as nutcases because they challenge the system. I was in fact suggesting this is untrue. To put it directly, it is possible for a nutcase to challenge the system. Not all people who challenge the system are sane. Therefore either or both could be a nutcase and still challenge the system. There really is no problem with that as an idea. The OP can't rely on the assertion that they challenge the system as proving they are not nutcases. Equally, it doesn't prove that they are nutcases. Just saying... like
 I find it's just like this when I tell jokes... have to spend hours explaining the punchline | |||
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"So why would UKIP; a party primarily composed of rightist ex-tories be any different? Not that Farage (or Brand for that matter) is ever actually going to get into power, of course" They're not, Nigel Farage is just another side of the same coin, he has friends in high places which could benefit from the power he could get his hands on. He has alot of awful ideas, especially the privatisation of the NHS, which will line the pockets of many, hence why Cameron has been interested in it. We need to scrap the lot of them and establish a new form of government and monetary system, which isn't dropping us into debt created out of thin air or the click of a button. Revolution is what brand speaks of and that is what needs to happen, perhaps not in the way he invisages, but that's a damn sight better than what we currently have. | |||
"So why would UKIP; a party primarily composed of rightist ex-tories be any different? " This is a question no UKIP supporter seems capable of answering. | |||
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"So why would UKIP; a party primarily composed of rightist ex-tories be any different? This is a question no UKIP supporter seems capable of answering. " | |||
"I lost interest in Brand the minute he said he had never voted. To me, this means he has no right to be taken seriously in a political discussion."
We were told this at school, if you don't vote you can't complain about the people in power.
However I do agree with brands point, it's the system that's been corrupted and it's the system he's against. | |||
"I lost interest in Brand the minute he said he had never voted. To me, this means he has no right to be taken seriously in a political discussion." Why vote for something which doesn't represent your views? It's a false economy to vote for something for the sake of it just because it only has perhaps 1 or 2 things you like about it. | |||
"So why would UKIP; a party primarily composed of rightist ex-tories be any different? Not that Farage (or Brand for that matter) is ever actually going to get into power, of course They're not, Nigel Farage is just another side of the same coin, he has friends in high places which could benefit from the power he could get his hands on. He has alot of awful ideas, especially the privatisation of the NHS, which will line the pockets of many, hence why Cameron has been interested in it. We need to scrap the lot of them and establish a new form of government and monetary system, which isn't dropping us into debt created out of thin air or the click of a button. Revolution is what brand speaks of and that is what needs to happen, perhaps not in the way he invisages, but that's a damn sight better than what we currently have. " But a revolution isn't going to happen either. | |||
"I lost interest in Brand the minute he said he had never voted. To me, this means he has no right to be taken seriously in a political discussion. Why vote for something which doesn't represent your views? It's a false economy to vote for something for the sake of it just because it only has perhaps 1 or 2 things you like about it." A false economy? | |||
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"I lost interest in Brand the minute he said he had never voted. To me, this means he has no right to be taken seriously in a political discussion. Why vote for something which doesn't represent your views? It's a false economy to vote for something for the sake of it just because it only has perhaps 1 or 2 things you like about it. A false economy? "Ie: people vote for it because it's their only option and then end up regretting their choice because the other policies outweigh the one option you liked. It's the same principle just not money related | |||
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"In the news today Russell brand verbally attacked a journalist for asking the value of his London house as he was protesting about rent prices being out of reach of the working class and foreign buyers driving prices up, he told the journalist he didn't know the value of it as he rents it and that he should ask his landlord. The sun made attempts to trace his landlord which turned out to be an off shore company registered in the Virgin Islands. In my book that makes him a hypocrit. He talks shit just so he can hear the sound of his own voice " But it's the pointless shit like that which they use to discredit him. The guy want genuine change for the better, who gives a fuck what his rent costs? Does that make him a better or worse person? No. Its all just a ploy to sway public opinion, because they're scared people are starting to revolt and question the system. The media is bought and owned by the corporations, the last thing they want is people knowing this shit | |||
"In the news today Russell brand verbally attacked a journalist for asking the value of his London house as he was protesting about rent prices being out of reach of the working class and foreign buyers driving prices up, he told the journalist he didn't know the value of it as he rents it and that he should ask his landlord. The sun made attempts to trace his landlord which turned out to be an off shore company registered in the Virgin Islands. In my book that makes him a hypocrit. He talks shit just so he can hear the sound of his own voice But it's the pointless shit like that which they use to discredit him. The guy want genuine change for the better, who gives a fuck what his rent costs? Does that make him a better or worse person? No. Its all just a ploy to sway public opinion, because they're scared people are starting to revolt and question the system. The media is bought and owned by the corporations, the last thing they want is people knowing this shit " .... You think you've merely stopped a business deal. That is not the case! The Arabs have taken billions of dollars out of this country, and now they must put it back! It is ebb and flow, tidal gravity! It is ecological balance! You are an old man who thinks in terms of nations and peoples. There are no nations. There are no peoples. There are no Russians. There are no Arabs. There are no third worlds. There is no West. There is only one holistic system of systems, one vast and immane, interwoven, interacting, multivariate, multinational dominion of dollars. Petro-dollars, electro-dollars, multi-dollars, reichmarks, rins, rubles, pounds, and shekels. It is the international system of currency which determines the totality of life on this planet. That is the natural order of things today. That is the atomic and subatomic and galactic structure of things today! And YOU have meddled with the primal forces of nature, and YOU... WILL... ATONE! Am I getting through to you, Mr. Beale? You get up on your little twenty-one inch screen and howl about America and democracy. There is no America. There is no democracy. There is only IBM, and ITT, and AT&T, and DuPont, Dow, Union Carbide, and Exxon. Those are the nations of the world today. What do you think the Russians talk about in their councils of state, Karl Marx? They get out their linear programming charts, statistical decision theories, minimax solutions, and compute the price-cost probabilities of their transactions and investments, just like we do. We no longer live in a world of nations and ideologies, Mr. Beale. The world is a college of corporations, inexorably determined by the immutable bylaws of business. The world is a business, Mr. Beale. It has been since man crawled out of the slime. And our children will live, Mr. Beale, to see that... perfect world... in which there's no war or famine, oppression or brutality. One vast and ecumenical holding company, for whom all men will work to serve a common profit, in which all men will hold a share of stock. All necessities provided, all anxieties tranquilized, all boredom amused. And I have chosen you, Mr. Beale, to preach this evangel. | |||
"In the news today Russell brand verbally attacked a journalist for asking the value of his London house as he was protesting about rent prices being out of reach of the working class and foreign buyers driving prices up, he told the journalist he didn't know the value of it as he rents it and that he should ask his landlord. The sun made attempts to trace his landlord which turned out to be an off shore company registered in the Virgin Islands. In my book that makes him a hypocrit. He talks shit just so he can hear the sound of his own voice But it's the pointless shit like that which they use to discredit him. The guy want genuine change for the better, who gives a fuck what his rent costs? Does that make him a better or worse person? No. Its all just a ploy to sway public opinion, because they're scared people are starting to revolt and question the system. The media is bought and owned by the corporations, the last thing they want is people knowing this shit .... You think you've merely stopped a business deal. That is not the case! The Arabs have taken billions of dollars out of this country, and now they must put it back! It is ebb and flow, tidal gravity! It is ecological balance! You are an old man who thinks in terms of nations and peoples. There are no nations. There are no peoples. There are no Russians. There are no Arabs. There are no third worlds. There is no West. There is only one holistic system of systems, one vast and immane, interwoven, interacting, multivariate, multinational dominion of dollars. Petro-dollars, electro-dollars, multi-dollars, reichmarks, rins, rubles, pounds, and shekels. It is the international system of currency which determines the totality of life on this planet. That is the natural order of things today. That is the atomic and subatomic and galactic structure of things today! And YOU have meddled with the primal forces of nature, and YOU... WILL... ATONE! Am I getting through to you, Mr. Beale? You get up on your little twenty-one inch screen and howl about America and democracy. There is no America. There is no democracy. There is only IBM, and ITT, and AT&T, and DuPont, Dow, Union Carbide, and Exxon. Those are the nations of the world today. What do you think the Russians talk about in their councils of state, Karl Marx? They get out their linear programming charts, statistical decision theories, minimax solutions, and compute the price-cost probabilities of their transactions and investments, just like we do. We no longer live in a world of nations and ideologies, Mr. Beale. The world is a college of corporations, inexorably determined by the immutable bylaws of business. The world is a business, Mr. Beale. It has been since man crawled out of the slime. And our children will live, Mr. Beale, to see that... perfect world... in which there's no war or famine, oppression or brutality. One vast and ecumenical holding company, for whom all men will work to serve a common profit, in which all men will hold a share of stock. All necessities provided, all anxieties tranquilized, all boredom amused. And I have chosen you, Mr. Beale, to preach this evangel. " Network is a classic.. | |||
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"In the news today Russell brand verbally attacked a journalist for asking the value of his London house as he was protesting about rent prices being out of reach of the working class and foreign buyers driving prices up, he told the journalist he didn't know the value of it as he rents it and that he should ask his landlord. The sun made attempts to trace his landlord which turned out to be an off shore company registered in the Virgin Islands. In my book that makes him a hypocrit. He talks shit just so he can hear the sound of his own voice But it's the pointless shit like that which they use to discredit him. The guy want genuine change for the better, who gives a fuck what his rent costs? Does that make him a better or worse person? No. Its all just a ploy to sway public opinion, because they're scared people are starting to revolt and question the system. The media is bought and owned by the corporations, the last thing they want is people knowing this shit " I think the point is he is in effect renting his house from himself which is the sort of scam politicians get called corrupt for doing. Brand is a hypocrite BUT he does want to make a differance so should be commended for that. He will get flack. As for not voting, if you don't vote for change your supporting whoever ends up in power. | |||
"In the news today Russell brand verbally attacked a journalist for asking the value of his London house as he was protesting about rent prices being out of reach of the working class and foreign buyers driving prices up, he told the journalist he didn't know the value of it as he rents it and that he should ask his landlord. The sun made attempts to trace his landlord which turned out to be an off shore company registered in the Virgin Islands. In my book that makes him a hypocrit. He talks shit just so he can hear the sound of his own voice But it's the pointless shit like that which they use to discredit him. The guy want genuine change for the better, who gives a fuck what his rent costs? Does that make him a better or worse person? No. Its all just a ploy to sway public opinion, because they're scared people are starting to revolt and question the system. The media is bought and owned by the corporations, the last thing they want is people knowing this shit I think the point is he is in effect renting his house from himself which is the sort of scam politicians get called corrupt for doing. Brand is a hypocrite BUT he does want to make a differance so should be commended for that. He will get flack. As for not voting, if you don't vote for change your supporting whoever ends up in power." I appreciate your point, but what good is voting for change when it is just the opposite side of the same coin, that has led us to this point in time now where people are truly fed up with politics, because they realise the scam. Whatever you choose, it's always the same. | |||
"I think it's very easy to criticise Russell Brand, he's a millionaire yes, but that doesn't mean he's a hypocrite. He grew up in Grays in a poor family taking hard drugs regularly , he rose from nothing, and has probably been through more difficultly than most people. The guy could quite happily retire tomorrow and never have to do an appearance or write a book again, but he realises the corruption and lies and deciet that is rife throughout the government and if he can make the regular joe public switched on to this, then who honestly cares if he's a millionaire? If he can make the blind see the truth then in my opinion he is best politican we could ever hope for, because your current one are in bed with large corporations, generating war for profits. This is the one thing that really bugs me. He speaks the truth ? What truth ? He is explaining to people the corruption which takes place on a regular occurance. That the current government have no interest in the publics interests. They are purely there to serve the corporations, by passing laws to give them tax breaks, or to start wars with foreign countries in order to generate more revenue for arms dealers and then rape and pillage natural resources from those lands all in the name of "terror", they are the greatest terrorists of all, not some poor fucker who watched his mum or little sister burned to pieces in a drone strike. It's the stupidity and absolute blindness which annoys me the most, that people are far more wrspped up in Towie or the x factor than slamming on the brakes and saying, wait a minute wtf is going on here?!" So just the truth according to him then | |||
"In the news today Russell brand verbally attacked a journalist for asking the value of his London house as he was protesting about rent prices being out of reach of the working class and foreign buyers driving prices up, he told the journalist he didn't know the value of it as he rents it and that he should ask his landlord. The sun made attempts to trace his landlord which turned out to be an off shore company registered in the Virgin Islands. In my book that makes him a hypocrit. He talks shit just so he can hear the sound of his own voice " | |||
"I think it's very easy to criticise Russell Brand, he's a millionaire yes, but that doesn't mean he's a hypocrite. He grew up in Grays in a poor family taking hard drugs regularly , he rose from nothing, and has probably been through more difficultly than most people. The guy could quite happily retire tomorrow and never have to do an appearance or write a book again, but he realises the corruption and lies and deciet that is rife throughout the government and if he can make the regular joe public switched on to this, then who honestly cares if he's a millionaire? If he can make the blind see the truth then in my opinion he is best politican we could ever hope for, because your current one are in bed with large corporations, generating war for profits. This is the one thing that really bugs me. He speaks the truth ? What truth ? He is explaining to people the corruption which takes place on a regular occurance. That the current government have no interest in the publics interests. They are purely there to serve the corporations, by passing laws to give them tax breaks, or to start wars with foreign countries in order to generate more revenue for arms dealers and then rape and pillage natural resources from those lands all in the name of "terror", they are the greatest terrorists of all, not some poor fucker who watched his mum or little sister burned to pieces in a drone strike. It's the stupidity and absolute blindness which annoys me the most, that people are far more wrspped up in Towie or the x factor than slamming on the brakes and saying, wait a minute wtf is going on here?! So just the truth according to him then " I'm sorry but if you think that is just the truth according to him then you truly are living under a rock. Put down the daily mail and look at some credible alternative news companies which aren't bought and paid for by large corporations | |||
"I think it's very easy to criticise Russell Brand, he's a millionaire yes, but that doesn't mean he's a hypocrite. He grew up in Grays in a poor family taking hard drugs regularly , he rose from nothing, and has probably been through more difficultly than most people. The guy could quite happily retire tomorrow and never have to do an appearance or write a book again, but he realises the corruption and lies and deciet that is rife throughout the government and if he can make the regular joe public switched on to this, then who honestly cares if he's a millionaire? If he can make the blind see the truth then in my opinion he is best politican we could ever hope for, because your current one are in bed with large corporations, generating war for profits. This is the one thing that really bugs me. He speaks the truth ? What truth ? He is explaining to people the corruption which takes place on a regular occurance. That the current government have no interest in the publics interests. They are purely there to serve the corporations, by passing laws to give them tax breaks, or to start wars with foreign countries in order to generate more revenue for arms dealers and then rape and pillage natural resources from those lands all in the name of "terror", they are the greatest terrorists of all, not some poor fucker who watched his mum or little sister burned to pieces in a drone strike. It's the stupidity and absolute blindness which annoys me the most, that people are far more wrspped up in Towie or the x factor than slamming on the brakes and saying, wait a minute wtf is going on here?! So just the truth according to him then I'm sorry but if you think that is just the truth according to him then you truly are living under a rock. Put down the daily mail and look at some credible alternative news companies which aren't bought and paid for by large corporations " Why do you presume I read the daily mail ? I do not , nor have I ever done. I don't read the sun either. But I can make my own mind up if that's ok with you. Just because I disagree doesn't mean I live under a rock. Maybe I have my own opinion and don't blindly follow a celebs opinion because I think they're cool. | |||
"I think it's very easy to criticise Russell Brand, he's a millionaire yes, but that doesn't mean he's a hypocrite. He grew up in Grays in a poor family taking hard drugs regularly , he rose from nothing, and has probably been through more difficultly than most people. The guy could quite happily retire tomorrow and never have to do an appearance or write a book again, but he realises the corruption and lies and deciet that is rife throughout the government and if he can make the regular joe public switched on to this, then who honestly cares if he's a millionaire? If he can make the blind see the truth then in my opinion he is best politican we could ever hope for, because your current one are in bed with large corporations, generating war for profits. This is the one thing that really bugs me. He speaks the truth ? What truth ? He is explaining to people the corruption which takes place on a regular occurance. That the current government have no interest in the publics interests. They are purely there to serve the corporations, by passing laws to give them tax breaks, or to start wars with foreign countries in order to generate more revenue for arms dealers and then rape and pillage natural resources from those lands all in the name of "terror", they are the greatest terrorists of all, not some poor fucker who watched his mum or little sister burned to pieces in a drone strike. It's the stupidity and absolute blindness which annoys me the most, that people are far more wrspped up in Towie or the x factor than slamming on the brakes and saying, wait a minute wtf is going on here?! So just the truth according to him then I'm sorry but if you think that is just the truth according to him then you truly are living under a rock. Put down the daily mail and look at some credible alternative news companies which aren't bought and paid for by large corporations Why do you presume I read the daily mail ? I do not , nor have I ever done. I don't read the sun either. But I can make my own mind up if that's ok with you. Just because I disagree doesn't mean I live under a rock. Maybe I have my own opinion and don't blindly follow a celebs opinion because I think they're cool. " I don't follow anyone blindly, I've spent enough time doing my own research and expanding my understanding of what is going on in today's world. If people can genuinely believe in today's world that politics and our monetary system is just a-okay, you're either mentally disabled or dead. | |||
"I think it's very easy to criticise Russell Brand, he's a millionaire yes, but that doesn't mean he's a hypocrite. He grew up in Grays in a poor family taking hard drugs regularly , he rose from nothing, and has probably been through more difficultly than most people. The guy could quite happily retire tomorrow and never have to do an appearance or write a book again, but he realises the corruption and lies and deciet that is rife throughout the government and if he can make the regular joe public switched on to this, then who honestly cares if he's a millionaire? If he can make the blind see the truth then in my opinion he is best politican we could ever hope for, because your current one are in bed with large corporations, generating war for profits. This is the one thing that really bugs me. He speaks the truth ? What truth ? He is explaining to people the corruption which takes place on a regular occurance. That the current government have no interest in the publics interests. They are purely there to serve the corporations, by passing laws to give them tax breaks, or to start wars with foreign countries in order to generate more revenue for arms dealers and then rape and pillage natural resources from those lands all in the name of "terror", they are the greatest terrorists of all, not some poor fucker who watched his mum or little sister burned to pieces in a drone strike. It's the stupidity and absolute blindness which annoys me the most, that people are far more wrspped up in Towie or the x factor than slamming on the brakes and saying, wait a minute wtf is going on here?! So just the truth according to him then I'm sorry but if you think that is just the truth according to him then you truly are living under a rock. Put down the daily mail and look at some credible alternative news companies which aren't bought and paid for by large corporations Why do you presume I read the daily mail ? I do not , nor have I ever done. I don't read the sun either. But I can make my own mind up if that's ok with you. Just because I disagree doesn't mean I live under a rock. Maybe I have my own opinion and don't blindly follow a celebs opinion because I think they're cool. I don't follow anyone blindly, I've spent enough time doing my own research and expanding my understanding of what is going on in today's world. If people can genuinely believe in today's world that politics and our monetary system is just a-okay, you're either mentally disabled or dead. " I think I'll leave it there as I find mocking mental illness distasteful and the trading of insults childish. | |||
"In the news today Russell brand verbally attacked a journalist for asking the value of his London house as he was protesting about rent prices being out of reach of the working class and foreign buyers driving prices up, he told the journalist he didn't know the value of it as he rents it and that he should ask his landlord. The sun made attempts to trace his landlord which turned out to be an off shore company registered in the Virgin Islands. In my book that makes him a hypocrit. He talks shit just so he can hear the sound of his own voice But it's the pointless shit like that which they use to discredit him. The guy want genuine change for the better, who gives a fuck what his rent costs? Does that make him a better or worse person? No. Its all just a ploy to sway public opinion, because they're scared people are starting to revolt and question the system. The media is bought and owned by the corporations, the last thing they want is people knowing this shit I think the point is he is in effect renting his house from himself which is the sort of scam politicians get called corrupt for doing. Brand is a hypocrite BUT he does want to make a differance so should be commended for that. He will get flack. As for not voting, if you don't vote for change your supporting whoever ends up in power. I appreciate your point, but what good is voting for change when it is just the opposite side of the same coin, that has led us to this point in time now where people are truly fed up with politics, because they realise the scam. Whatever you choose, it's always the same." So to you what's the alternative revolution?, anarchy? Both are horrendous alternatives, Rule of the masses will always prevail. The true meaning of democracy. | |||
"I think it's very easy to criticise Russell Brand, he's a millionaire yes, but that doesn't mean he's a hypocrite. He grew up in Grays in a poor family taking hard drugs regularly , he rose from nothing, and has probably been through more difficultly than most people. The guy could quite happily retire tomorrow and never have to do an appearance or write a book again, but he realises the corruption and lies and deciet that is rife throughout the government and if he can make the regular joe public switched on to this, then who honestly cares if he's a millionaire? If he can make the blind see the truth then in my opinion he is best politican we could ever hope for, because your current one are in bed with large corporations, generating war for profits. This is the one thing that really bugs me. He speaks the truth ? What truth ? He is explaining to people the corruption which takes place on a regular occurance. That the current government have no interest in the publics interests. They are purely there to serve the corporations, by passing laws to give them tax breaks, or to start wars with foreign countries in order to generate more revenue for arms dealers and then rape and pillage natural resources from those lands all in the name of "terror", they are the greatest terrorists of all, not some poor fucker who watched his mum or little sister burned to pieces in a drone strike. It's the stupidity and absolute blindness which annoys me the most, that people are far more wrspped up in Towie or the x factor than slamming on the brakes and saying, wait a minute wtf is going on here?! So just the truth according to him then I'm sorry but if you think that is just the truth according to him then you truly are living under a rock. Put down the daily mail and look at some credible alternative news companies which aren't bought and paid for by large corporations Why do you presume I read the daily mail ? I do not , nor have I ever done. I don't read the sun either. But I can make my own mind up if that's ok with you. Just because I disagree doesn't mean I live under a rock. Maybe I have my own opinion and don't blindly follow a celebs opinion because I think they're cool. I don't follow anyone blindly, I've spent enough time doing my own research and expanding my understanding of what is going on in today's world. If people can genuinely believe in today's world that politics and our monetary system is just a-okay, you're either mentally disabled or dead. I think I'll leave it there as I find mocking mental illness distasteful and the trading of insults childish. " Yes because I'm really mocking the mentally ill  | |||
"In the news today Russell brand verbally attacked a journalist for asking the value of his London house as he was protesting about rent prices being out of reach of the working class and foreign buyers driving prices up, he told the journalist he didn't know the value of it as he rents it and that he should ask his landlord. The sun made attempts to trace his landlord which turned out to be an off shore company registered in the Virgin Islands. In my book that makes him a hypocrit. He talks shit just so he can hear the sound of his own voice But it's the pointless shit like that which they use to discredit him. The guy want genuine change for the better, who gives a fuck what his rent costs? Does that make him a better or worse person? No. Its all just a ploy to sway public opinion, because they're scared people are starting to revolt and question the system. The media is bought and owned by the corporations, the last thing they want is people knowing this shit I think the point is he is in effect renting his house from himself which is the sort of scam politicians get called corrupt for doing. Brand is a hypocrite BUT he does want to make a differance so should be commended for that. He will get flack. As for not voting, if you don't vote for change your supporting whoever ends up in power. I appreciate your point, but what good is voting for change when it is just the opposite side of the same coin, that has led us to this point in time now where people are truly fed up with politics, because they realise the scam. Whatever you choose, it's always the same. So to you what's the alternative revolution?, anarchy? Both are horrendous alternatives, Rule of the masses will always prevail. The true meaning of democracy." No, who mentioned anarchy? Just because there isn't one ruling elite doesn't mean we turn into animalistic thugs. We need to remove the cancer that is the current government and actually establish genuine people into positions of power, that support the people, not the corporations . We need to do away with the current monetary system which generates money out of thin air, causing inflation, and then when the banks fail use our tax money to bail them out, and they never pay a penny to return the debt! The creation of money should be done by our Government not private banks which place debt upon it. The bank of England is a private bank, do some research people. | |||
"In the news today Russell brand verbally attacked a journalist for asking the value of his London house as he was protesting about rent prices being out of reach of the working class and foreign buyers driving prices up, he told the journalist he didn't know the value of it as he rents it and that he should ask his landlord. The sun made attempts to trace his landlord which turned out to be an off shore company registered in the Virgin Islands. In my book that makes him a hypocrit. He talks shit just so he can hear the sound of his own voice But it's the pointless shit like that which they use to discredit him. The guy want genuine change for the better, who gives a fuck what his rent costs? Does that make him a better or worse person? No. Its all just a ploy to sway public opinion, because they're scared people are starting to revolt and question the system. The media is bought and owned by the corporations, the last thing they want is people knowing this shit I think the point is he is in effect renting his house from himself which is the sort of scam politicians get called corrupt for doing. Brand is a hypocrite BUT he does want to make a differance so should be commended for that. He will get flack. As for not voting, if you don't vote for change your supporting whoever ends up in power. I appreciate your point, but what good is voting for change when it is just the opposite side of the same coin, that has led us to this point in time now where people are truly fed up with politics, because they realise the scam. Whatever you choose, it's always the same. So to you what's the alternative revolution?, anarchy? Both are horrendous alternatives, Rule of the masses will always prevail. The true meaning of democracy. No, who mentioned anarchy? Just because there isn't one ruling elite doesn't mean we turn into animalistic thugs. We need to remove the cancer that is the current government and actually establish genuine people into positions of power, that support the people, not the corporations . We need to do away with the current monetary system which generates money out of thin air, causing inflation, and then when the banks fail use our tax money to bail them out, and they never pay a penny to return the debt! The creation of money should be done by our Government not private banks which place debt upon it. The bank of England is a private bank, do some research people. " But don't you achieve all of that through voting? Vote for new thinkers, major parties don't spring up over night it's all starts at local elections. As for the monetary system, name one country where most of the monies value isn't in cyber space? | |||
"In the news today Russell brand verbally attacked a journalist for asking the value of his London house as he was protesting about rent prices being out of reach of the working class and foreign buyers driving prices up, he told the journalist he didn't know the value of it as he rents it and that he should ask his landlord. The sun made attempts to trace his landlord which turned out to be an off shore company registered in the Virgin Islands. In my book that makes him a hypocrit. He talks shit just so he can hear the sound of his own voice But it's the pointless shit like that which they use to discredit him. The guy want genuine change for the better, who gives a fuck what his rent costs? Does that make him a better or worse person? No. Its all just a ploy to sway public opinion, because they're scared people are starting to revolt and question the system. The media is bought and owned by the corporations, the last thing they want is people knowing this shit I think the point is he is in effect renting his house from himself which is the sort of scam politicians get called corrupt for doing. Brand is a hypocrite BUT he does want to make a differance so should be commended for that. He will get flack. As for not voting, if you don't vote for change your supporting whoever ends up in power. I appreciate your point, but what good is voting for change when it is just the opposite side of the same coin, that has led us to this point in time now where people are truly fed up with politics, because they realise the scam. Whatever you choose, it's always the same. So to you what's the alternative revolution?, anarchy? Both are horrendous alternatives, Rule of the masses will always prevail. The true meaning of democracy. No, who mentioned anarchy? Just because there isn't one ruling elite doesn't mean we turn into animalistic thugs. We need to remove the cancer that is the current government and actually establish genuine people into positions of power, that support the people, not the corporations . We need to do away with the current monetary system which generates money out of thin air, causing inflation, and then when the banks fail use our tax money to bail them out, and they never pay a penny to return the debt! The creation of money should be done by our Government not private banks which place debt upon it. The bank of England is a private bank, do some research people. But don't you achieve all of that through voting? Vote for new thinkers, major parties don't spring up over night it's all starts at local elections. As for the monetary system, name one country where most of the monies value isn't in cyber space?" As for your last statement, is was a chancellor that sold off most of our gold stocks and assets not the bank of England so maybe you could try some research. | |||
"In the news today Russell brand verbally attacked a journalist for asking the value of his London house as he was protesting about rent prices being out of reach of the working class and foreign buyers driving prices up, he told the journalist he didn't know the value of it as he rents it and that he should ask his landlord. The sun made attempts to trace his landlord which turned out to be an off shore company registered in the Virgin Islands. In my book that makes him a hypocrit. He talks shit just so he can hear the sound of his own voice But it's the pointless shit like that which they use to discredit him. The guy want genuine change for the better, who gives a fuck what his rent costs? Does that make him a better or worse person? No. Its all just a ploy to sway public opinion, because they're scared people are starting to revolt and question the system. The media is bought and owned by the corporations, the last thing they want is people knowing this shit I think the point is he is in effect renting his house from himself which is the sort of scam politicians get called corrupt for doing. Brand is a hypocrite BUT he does want to make a differance so should be commended for that. He will get flack. As for not voting, if you don't vote for change your supporting whoever ends up in power. I appreciate your point, but what good is voting for change when it is just the opposite side of the same coin, that has led us to this point in time now where people are truly fed up with politics, because they realise the scam. Whatever you choose, it's always the same. So to you what's the alternative revolution?, anarchy? Both are horrendous alternatives, Rule of the masses will always prevail. The true meaning of democracy. No, who mentioned anarchy? Just because there isn't one ruling elite doesn't mean we turn into animalistic thugs. We need to remove the cancer that is the current government and actually establish genuine people into positions of power, that support the people, not the corporations . We need to do away with the current monetary system which generates money out of thin air, causing inflation, and then when the banks fail use our tax money to bail them out, and they never pay a penny to return the debt! The creation of money should be done by our Government not private banks which place debt upon it. The bank of England is a private bank, do some research people. But don't you achieve all of that through voting? Vote for new thinkers, major parties don't spring up over night it's all starts at local elections. As for the monetary system, name one country where most of the monies value isn't in cyber space? As for your last statement, is was a chancellor that sold off most of our gold stocks and assets not the bank of England so maybe you could try some research." Finally you criticise the bank of England for being independant of government but say the current political system is corroupt. So who would you have running the boe? | |||
"In the news today Russell brand verbally attacked a journalist for asking the value of his London house as he was protesting about rent prices being out of reach of the working class and foreign buyers driving prices up, he told the journalist he didn't know the value of it as he rents it and that he should ask his landlord. The sun made attempts to trace his landlord which turned out to be an off shore company registered in the Virgin Islands. In my book that makes him a hypocrit. He talks shit just so he can hear the sound of his own voice But it's the pointless shit like that which they use to discredit him. The guy want genuine change for the better, who gives a fuck what his rent costs? Does that make him a better or worse person? No. Its all just a ploy to sway public opinion, because they're scared people are starting to revolt and question the system. The media is bought and owned by the corporations, the last thing they want is people knowing this shit I think the point is he is in effect renting his house from himself which is the sort of scam politicians get called corrupt for doing. Brand is a hypocrite BUT he does want to make a differance so should be commended for that. He will get flack. As for not voting, if you don't vote for change your supporting whoever ends up in power. I appreciate your point, but what good is voting for change when it is just the opposite side of the same coin, that has led us to this point in time now where people are truly fed up with politics, because they realise the scam. Whatever you choose, it's always the same. So to you what's the alternative revolution?, anarchy? Both are horrendous alternatives, Rule of the masses will always prevail. The true meaning of democracy. No, who mentioned anarchy? Just because there isn't one ruling elite doesn't mean we turn into animalistic thugs. We need to remove the cancer that is the current government and actually establish genuine people into positions of power, that support the people, not the corporations . We need to do away with the current monetary system which generates money out of thin air, causing inflation, and then when the banks fail use our tax money to bail them out, and they never pay a penny to return the debt! The creation of money should be done by our Government not private banks which place debt upon it. The bank of England is a private bank, do some research people. But don't you achieve all of that through voting? Vote for new thinkers, major parties don't spring up over night it's all starts at local elections. As for the monetary system, name one country where most of the monies value isn't in cyber space? As for your last statement, is was a chancellor that sold off most of our gold stocks and assets not the bank of England so maybe you could try some research." Exactly what is wrong, money should not be generated inside of a computer. There are laws in place which stop people generating money in physical form, which is why banks generate it electronically and call it "credit". The debt that you "borrow" from the bank has never actually existed outside of a computer, no physical money as exchanged, so how can they charge you thousands and thousands of pounds on something that doesn't actually exist, and has effectively been repaid. And also how does that rewuire that I do more research I never said that the chancellor didn't sell off our gold. The point I made is that all of our money in circulation is generated with debt. Get your facts right. | |||
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" I don't follow anyone blindly, I've spent enough time doing my own research and expanding my understanding of what is going on in today's world. If people can genuinely believe in today's world that politics and our monetary system is just a-okay, you're either mentally disabled or dead. I think I'll leave it there as I find mocking mental illness distasteful and the trading of insults childish. Yes because I'm really mocking the mentally ill "=================================== Ah I see what you're doing there to mock the other person. Do you feel that someone who is mentally disabled couldn't understand your point of view or argue with validity either for or against it? You have a huge problem there. There are a lot of very bright people who have recognised mental disabilities. Or were you implying that the other person in that exchange is mentally disabled, which would just be a particularly cheap shot because they didn't agree with you? Or have I got it wrong and you genuinely were confessing to mocking the mentally ill... or did you mean disabled... or both? I'll leave the dead to defend themselves. ====================================== | |||
" I don't follow anyone blindly, I've spent enough time doing my own research and expanding my understanding of what is going on in today's world. If people can genuinely believe in today's world that politics and our monetary system is just a-okay, you're either mentally disabled or dead. I think I'll leave it there as I find mocking mental illness distasteful and the trading of insults childish. Yes because I'm really mocking the mentally ill
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Ah I see what you're doing there to mock the other person.
Do you feel that someone who is mentally disabled couldn't understand your point of view or argue with validity either for or against it? You have a huge problem there. There are a lot of very bright people who have recognised mental disabilities.
Or were you implying that the other person in that exchange is mentally disabled, which would just be a particularly cheap shot because they didn't agree with you?
Or have I got it wrong and you genuinely were confessing to mocking the mentally ill... or did you mean disabled... or both?
I'll leave the dead to defend themselves.
======================================"Considering I've cared for my brother who is mentally handicapped since my mum passed away I think I'm pretty well entitled to comment upon handicapped people. My point being that someone who is mentally handicapped has an obscured view and difficultly on grasping concepts, so get off your high horse and pipe down. | |||
" I don't follow anyone blindly, I've spent enough time doing my own research and expanding my understanding of what is going on in today's world. If people can genuinely believe in today's world that politics and our monetary system is just a-okay, you're either mentally disabled or dead. I think I'll leave it there as I find mocking mental illness distasteful and the trading of insults childish. Yes because I'm really mocking the mentally ill
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Ah I see what you're doing there to mock the other person.
Do you feel that someone who is mentally disabled couldn't understand your point of view or argue with validity either for or against it? You have a huge problem there. There are a lot of very bright people who have recognised mental disabilities.
Or were you implying that the other person in that exchange is mentally disabled, which would just be a particularly cheap shot because they didn't agree with you?
Or have I got it wrong and you genuinely were confessing to mocking the mentally ill... or did you mean disabled... or both?
I'll leave the dead to defend themselves.
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Considering I've cared for my brother who is mentally handicapped since my mum passed away I think I'm pretty well entitled to comment upon handicapped people. My point being that someone who is mentally handicapped has an obscured view and difficultly on grasping concepts, so get off your high horse and pipe down. "I like my high horse. You're not the only person with experience of caring for disabled people. A simple apology to all the people you insulted with that ridiculous statement would have been enough. When you've got yourself in a hole it's essential that you learn when to stop digging. | |||
" I don't follow anyone blindly, I've spent enough time doing my own research and expanding my understanding of what is going on in today's world. If people can genuinely believe in today's world that politics and our monetary system is just a-okay, you're either mentally disabled or dead. I think I'll leave it there as I find mocking mental illness distasteful and the trading of insults childish. Yes because I'm really mocking the mentally ill
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Ah I see what you're doing there to mock the other person.
Do you feel that someone who is mentally disabled couldn't understand your point of view or argue with validity either for or against it? You have a huge problem there. There are a lot of very bright people who have recognised mental disabilities.
Or were you implying that the other person in that exchange is mentally disabled, which would just be a particularly cheap shot because they didn't agree with you?
Or have I got it wrong and you genuinely were confessing to mocking the mentally ill... or did you mean disabled... or both?
I'll leave the dead to defend themselves.
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Considering I've cared for my brother who is mentally handicapped since my mum passed away I think I'm pretty well entitled to comment upon handicapped people. My point being that someone who is mentally handicapped has an obscured view and difficultly on grasping concepts, so get off your high horse and pipe down.
I like my high horse. You're not the only person with experience of caring for disabled people.
A simple apology to all the people you insulted with that ridiculous statement would have been enough.
When you've got yourself in a hole it's essential that you learn when to stop digging."When I get myself in one I shall, until then suck it up buddy, we are discussing politics, not getting into silly arguments over disability. | |||
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" I don't follow anyone blindly, I've spent enough time doing my own research and expanding my understanding of what is going on in today's world. If people can genuinely believe in today's world that politics and our monetary system is just a-okay, you're either mentally disabled or dead. I think I'll leave it there as I find mocking mental illness distasteful and the trading of insults childish. Yes because I'm really mocking the mentally ill
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Ah I see what you're doing there to mock the other person.
Do you feel that someone who is mentally disabled couldn't understand your point of view or argue with validity either for or against it? You have a huge problem there. There are a lot of very bright people who have recognised mental disabilities.
Or were you implying that the other person in that exchange is mentally disabled, which would just be a particularly cheap shot because they didn't agree with you?
Or have I got it wrong and you genuinely were confessing to mocking the mentally ill... or did you mean disabled... or both?
I'll leave the dead to defend themselves.
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Considering I've cared for my brother who is mentally handicapped since my mum passed away I think I'm pretty well entitled to comment upon handicapped people. My point being that someone who is mentally handicapped has an obscured view and difficultly on grasping concepts, so get off your high horse and pipe down.
I like my high horse. You're not the only person with experience of caring for disabled people.
A simple apology to all the people you insulted with that ridiculous statement would have been enough.
When you've got yourself in a hole it's essential that you learn when to stop digging.
When I get myself in one I shall, until then suck it up buddy, we are discussing politics, not getting into silly arguments over disability. "Lol no you moved off politics and moved onto monetary systems | |||
" I don't follow anyone blindly, I've spent enough time doing my own research and expanding my understanding of what is going on in today's world. If people can genuinely believe in today's world that politics and our monetary system is just a-okay, you're either mentally disabled or dead. I think I'll leave it there as I find mocking mental illness distasteful and the trading of insults childish. Yes because I'm really mocking the mentally ill
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Ah I see what you're doing there to mock the other person.
Do you feel that someone who is mentally disabled couldn't understand your point of view or argue with validity either for or against it? You have a huge problem there. There are a lot of very bright people who have recognised mental disabilities.
Or were you implying that the other person in that exchange is mentally disabled, which would just be a particularly cheap shot because they didn't agree with you?
Or have I got it wrong and you genuinely were confessing to mocking the mentally ill... or did you mean disabled... or both?
I'll leave the dead to defend themselves.
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Considering I've cared for my brother who is mentally handicapped since my mum passed away I think I'm pretty well entitled to comment upon handicapped people. My point being that someone who is mentally handicapped has an obscured view and difficultly on grasping concepts, so get off your high horse and pipe down.
I like my high horse. You're not the only person with experience of caring for disabled people.
A simple apology to all the people you insulted with that ridiculous statement would have been enough.
When you've got yourself in a hole it's essential that you learn when to stop digging.
When I get myself in one I shall, until then suck it up buddy, we are discussing politics, not getting into silly arguments over disability. "I'm not your buddy. You used an accusation of mental disability to attempt to deride someone else on here. You can't wriggle off that particular nail by claiming that you're arguing politics. That you think you can excuse yourself by calling it a silly argument when someone challenges such a ridiculous statement speaks volumes about you. None of them positive. I'm going to join the others earlier in pointing out that you are being distasteful and insulting and leave you in your hole. | |||
"I vow never to bring up nige again...nor mr brand.....ive been xmas shopping for 4 hrs and still this debate rages.....you do have a lot to say guys....so vote....david camara face seems the safe bet red ed will ruin the country again....libs dead in the water.....ukip ? well its us oldies only way to express our rage at the last 20 yrs...labour puts country in red,then blames torys for it all...and they carry on the open border policy with no one prepared to make a stand in Europe or at home....immigration yes....but what we have here is un policed immigration.....4 murders so far this year from people who are known criminals who just walked in "... I refer you to my earlier post from the classic film network written in 1976. Some people have a vantage point, they can see a little further down the road than ourselves. | |||
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" I don't follow anyone blindly, I've spent enough time doing my own research and expanding my understanding of what is going on in today's world. If people can genuinely believe in today's world that politics and our monetary system is just a-okay, you're either mentally disabled or dead. I think I'll leave it there as I find mocking mental illness distasteful and the trading of insults childish. Yes because I'm really mocking the mentally ill
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Ah I see what you're doing there to mock the other person.
Do you feel that someone who is mentally disabled couldn't understand your point of view or argue with validity either for or against it? You have a huge problem there. There are a lot of very bright people who have recognised mental disabilities.
Or were you implying that the other person in that exchange is mentally disabled, which would just be a particularly cheap shot because they didn't agree with you?
Or have I got it wrong and you genuinely were confessing to mocking the mentally ill... or did you mean disabled... or both?
I'll leave the dead to defend themselves.
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Considering I've cared for my brother who is mentally handicapped since my mum passed away I think I'm pretty well entitled to comment upon handicapped people. My point being that someone who is mentally handicapped has an obscured view and difficultly on grasping concepts, so get off your high horse and pipe down.
I like my high horse. You're not the only person with experience of caring for disabled people.
A simple apology to all the people you insulted with that ridiculous statement would have been enough.
When you've got yourself in a hole it's essential that you learn when to stop digging.
When I get myself in one I shall, until then suck it up buddy, we are discussing politics, not getting into silly arguments over disability.
I'm not your buddy.
You used an accusation of mental disability to attempt to deride someone else on here. You can't wriggle off that particular nail by claiming that you're arguing politics.
That you think you can excuse yourself by calling it a silly argument when someone challenges such a ridiculous statement speaks volumes about you. None of them positive.
I'm going to join the others earlier in pointing out that you are being distasteful and insulting and leave you in your hole.". I find nearly everything written on this site distasteful and insulting. | |||
" I don't follow anyone blindly, I've spent enough time doing my own research and expanding my understanding of what is going on in today's world. If people can genuinely believe in today's world that politics and our monetary system is just a-okay, you're either mentally disabled or dead. I think I'll leave it there as I find mocking mental illness distasteful and the trading of insults childish. Yes because I'm really mocking the mentally ill
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Ah I see what you're doing there to mock the other person.
Do you feel that someone who is mentally disabled couldn't understand your point of view or argue with validity either for or against it? You have a huge problem there. There are a lot of very bright people who have recognised mental disabilities.
Or were you implying that the other person in that exchange is mentally disabled, which would just be a particularly cheap shot because they didn't agree with you?
Or have I got it wrong and you genuinely were confessing to mocking the mentally ill... or did you mean disabled... or both?
I'll leave the dead to defend themselves.
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Considering I've cared for my brother who is mentally handicapped since my mum passed away I think I'm pretty well entitled to comment upon handicapped people. My point being that someone who is mentally handicapped has an obscured view and difficultly on grasping concepts, so get off your high horse and pipe down.
I like my high horse. You're not the only person with experience of caring for disabled people.
A simple apology to all the people you insulted with that ridiculous statement would have been enough.
When you've got yourself in a hole it's essential that you learn when to stop digging.
When I get myself in one I shall, until then suck it up buddy, we are discussing politics, not getting into silly arguments over disability.
I'm not your buddy.
You used an accusation of mental disability to attempt to deride someone else on here. You can't wriggle off that particular nail by claiming that you're arguing politics.
That you think you can excuse yourself by calling it a silly argument when someone challenges such a ridiculous statement speaks volumes about you. None of them positive.
I'm going to join the others earlier in pointing out that you are being distasteful and insulting and leave you in your hole..
I find nearly everything written on this site distasteful and insulting."
I know that includes all the stuff I write, but you keep coming back for more. | |||
"I would have more respect for Brand if he embraced the revolution properly by creating a party and standing for election and seeking to create a groundswell of opinion that might lead to some real change. Anarchy is not going to solve anything." . I disagree, I think only anarchy produces real change. Everything else is just wishy washy bullshit that 10 years of history reduces to mediocrity. | |||
" I don't follow anyone blindly, I've spent enough time doing my own research and expanding my understanding of what is going on in today's world. If people can genuinely believe in today's world that politics and our monetary system is just a-okay, you're either mentally disabled or dead. I think I'll leave it there as I find mocking mental illness distasteful and the trading of insults childish. Yes because I'm really mocking the mentally ill
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Ah I see what you're doing there to mock the other person.
Do you feel that someone who is mentally disabled couldn't understand your point of view or argue with validity either for or against it? You have a huge problem there. There are a lot of very bright people who have recognised mental disabilities.
Or were you implying that the other person in that exchange is mentally disabled, which would just be a particularly cheap shot because they didn't agree with you?
Or have I got it wrong and you genuinely were confessing to mocking the mentally ill... or did you mean disabled... or both?
I'll leave the dead to defend themselves.
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Considering I've cared for my brother who is mentally handicapped since my mum passed away I think I'm pretty well entitled to comment upon handicapped people. My point being that someone who is mentally handicapped has an obscured view and difficultly on grasping concepts, so get off your high horse and pipe down.
I like my high horse. You're not the only person with experience of caring for disabled people.
A simple apology to all the people you insulted with that ridiculous statement would have been enough.
When you've got yourself in a hole it's essential that you learn when to stop digging.
When I get myself in one I shall, until then suck it up buddy, we are discussing politics, not getting into silly arguments over disability.
I'm not your buddy.
You used an accusation of mental disability to attempt to deride someone else on here. You can't wriggle off that particular nail by claiming that you're arguing politics.
That you think you can excuse yourself by calling it a silly argument when someone challenges such a ridiculous statement speaks volumes about you. None of them positive.
I'm going to join the others earlier in pointing out that you are being distasteful and insulting and leave you in your hole..
I find nearly everything written on this site distasteful and insulting.
I know that includes all the stuff I write, but you keep coming back for more. "Hehe  .
No I actually love the stuff you write.
It's well laid out, and thoughtful.I disagree with most of it but that's neither here nor there and at the "end of the day" it's better than apathy | |||
"I would have more respect for Brand if he embraced the revolution properly by creating a party and standing for election and seeking to create a groundswell of opinion that might lead to some real change. Anarchy is not going to solve anything.. I disagree, I think only anarchy produces real change. Everything else is just wishy washy bullshit that 10 years of history reduces to mediocrity." Lets give it a go then, abolish Parliament, tax, the army, police, religion etc and let's see what happens. | |||
" I don't follow anyone blindly, I've spent enough time doing my own research and expanding my understanding of what is going on in today's world. If people can genuinely believe in today's world that politics and our monetary system is just a-okay, you're either mentally disabled or dead. I think I'll leave it there as I find mocking mental illness distasteful and the trading of insults childish. Yes because I'm really mocking the mentally ill
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Ah I see what you're doing there to mock the other person.
Do you feel that someone who is mentally disabled couldn't understand your point of view or argue with validity either for or against it? You have a huge problem there. There are a lot of very bright people who have recognised mental disabilities.
Or were you implying that the other person in that exchange is mentally disabled, which would just be a particularly cheap shot because they didn't agree with you?
Or have I got it wrong and you genuinely were confessing to mocking the mentally ill... or did you mean disabled... or both?
I'll leave the dead to defend themselves.
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Considering I've cared for my brother who is mentally handicapped since my mum passed away I think I'm pretty well entitled to comment upon handicapped people. My point being that someone who is mentally handicapped has an obscured view and difficultly on grasping concepts, so get off your high horse and pipe down.
I like my high horse. You're not the only person with experience of caring for disabled people.
A simple apology to all the people you insulted with that ridiculous statement would have been enough.
When you've got yourself in a hole it's essential that you learn when to stop digging.
When I get myself in one I shall, until then suck it up buddy, we are discussing politics, not getting into silly arguments over disability.
I'm not your buddy.
You used an accusation of mental disability to attempt to deride someone else on here. You can't wriggle off that particular nail by claiming that you're arguing politics.
That you think you can excuse yourself by calling it a silly argument when someone challenges such a ridiculous statement speaks volumes about you. None of them positive.
I'm going to join the others earlier in pointing out that you are being distasteful and insulting and leave you in your hole."You're a broken record and quite frankly don't give a flying fuck what you think. So have a nice day and cry elsewhere | |||
" I don't follow anyone blindly, I've spent enough time doing my own research and expanding my understanding of what is going on in today's world. If people can genuinely believe in today's world that politics and our monetary system is just a-okay, you're either mentally disabled or dead. I think I'll leave it there as I find mocking mental illness distasteful and the trading of insults childish. Yes because I'm really mocking the mentally ill
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Ah I see what you're doing there to mock the other person.
Do you feel that someone who is mentally disabled couldn't understand your point of view or argue with validity either for or against it? You have a huge problem there. There are a lot of very bright people who have recognised mental disabilities.
Or were you implying that the other person in that exchange is mentally disabled, which would just be a particularly cheap shot because they didn't agree with you?
Or have I got it wrong and you genuinely were confessing to mocking the mentally ill... or did you mean disabled... or both?
I'll leave the dead to defend themselves.
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Considering I've cared for my brother who is mentally handicapped since my mum passed away I think I'm pretty well entitled to comment upon handicapped people. My point being that someone who is mentally handicapped has an obscured view and difficultly on grasping concepts, so get off your high horse and pipe down.
I like my high horse. You're not the only person with experience of caring for disabled people.
A simple apology to all the people you insulted with that ridiculous statement would have been enough.
When you've got yourself in a hole it's essential that you learn when to stop digging.
When I get myself in one I shall, until then suck it up buddy, we are discussing politics, not getting into silly arguments over disability.
I'm not your buddy.
You used an accusation of mental disability to attempt to deride someone else on here. You can't wriggle off that particular nail by claiming that you're arguing politics.
That you think you can excuse yourself by calling it a silly argument when someone challenges such a ridiculous statement speaks volumes about you. None of them positive.
I'm going to join the others earlier in pointing out that you are being distasteful and insulting and leave you in your hole.
You're a broken record and quite frankly don't give a flying fuck what you think. So have a nice day and cry elsewhere "Actually I was wrong earlier. I apologise. They didn't call you distasteful and insulting. It was distasteful and childish. Still while you're having tantrums at me it's saving us from the rest of your rants. Ta ta. Mate. | |||
" I don't follow anyone blindly, I've spent enough time doing my own research and expanding my understanding of what is going on in today's world. If people can genuinely believe in today's world that politics and our monetary system is just a-okay, you're either mentally disabled or dead. I think I'll leave it there as I find mocking mental illness distasteful and the trading of insults childish. Yes because I'm really mocking the mentally ill
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Ah I see what you're doing there to mock the other person.
Do you feel that someone who is mentally disabled couldn't understand your point of view or argue with validity either for or against it? You have a huge problem there. There are a lot of very bright people who have recognised mental disabilities.
Or were you implying that the other person in that exchange is mentally disabled, which would just be a particularly cheap shot because they didn't agree with you?
Or have I got it wrong and you genuinely were confessing to mocking the mentally ill... or did you mean disabled... or both?
I'll leave the dead to defend themselves.
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Considering I've cared for my brother who is mentally handicapped since my mum passed away I think I'm pretty well entitled to comment upon handicapped people. My point being that someone who is mentally handicapped has an obscured view and difficultly on grasping concepts, so get off your high horse and pipe down.
I like my high horse. You're not the only person with experience of caring for disabled people.
A simple apology to all the people you insulted with that ridiculous statement would have been enough.
When you've got yourself in a hole it's essential that you learn when to stop digging.
When I get myself in one I shall, until then suck it up buddy, we are discussing politics, not getting into silly arguments over disability.
I'm not your buddy.
You used an accusation of mental disability to attempt to deride someone else on here. You can't wriggle off that particular nail by claiming that you're arguing politics.
That you think you can excuse yourself by calling it a silly argument when someone challenges such a ridiculous statement speaks volumes about you. None of them positive.
I'm going to join the others earlier in pointing out that you are being distasteful and insulting and leave you in your hole.
You're a broken record and quite frankly don't give a flying fuck what you think. So have a nice day and cry elsewhere
Actually I was wrong earlier. I apologise. They didn't call you distasteful and insulting.
It was distasteful and childish.
Still while you're having tantrums at me it's saving us from the rest of your rants.
Ta ta.
Mate."Moral high grounder of the year everyone, bravo! Twat | |||
" I don't follow anyone blindly, I've spent enough time doing my own research and expanding my understanding of what is going on in today's world. If people can genuinely believe in today's world that politics and our monetary system is just a-okay, you're either mentally disabled or dead. I think I'll leave it there as I find mocking mental illness distasteful and the trading of insults childish. Yes because I'm really mocking the mentally ill
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Ah I see what you're doing there to mock the other person.
Do you feel that someone who is mentally disabled couldn't understand your point of view or argue with validity either for or against it? You have a huge problem there. There are a lot of very bright people who have recognised mental disabilities.
Or were you implying that the other person in that exchange is mentally disabled, which would just be a particularly cheap shot because they didn't agree with you?
Or have I got it wrong and you genuinely were confessing to mocking the mentally ill... or did you mean disabled... or both?
I'll leave the dead to defend themselves.
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Considering I've cared for my brother who is mentally handicapped since my mum passed away I think I'm pretty well entitled to comment upon handicapped people. My point being that someone who is mentally handicapped has an obscured view and difficultly on grasping concepts, so get off your high horse and pipe down.
I like my high horse. You're not the only person with experience of caring for disabled people.
A simple apology to all the people you insulted with that ridiculous statement would have been enough.
When you've got yourself in a hole it's essential that you learn when to stop digging.
When I get myself in one I shall, until then suck it up buddy, we are discussing politics, not getting into silly arguments over disability.
I'm not your buddy.
You used an accusation of mental disability to attempt to deride someone else on here. You can't wriggle off that particular nail by claiming that you're arguing politics.
That you think you can excuse yourself by calling it a silly argument when someone challenges such a ridiculous statement speaks volumes about you. None of them positive.
I'm going to join the others earlier in pointing out that you are being distasteful and insulting and leave you in your hole.
You're a broken record and quite frankly don't give a flying fuck what you think. So have a nice day and cry elsewhere
Actually I was wrong earlier. I apologise. They didn't call you distasteful and insulting.
It was distasteful and childish.
Still while you're having tantrums at me it's saving us from the rest of your rants.
Ta ta.
Mate.
Moral high grounder of the year everyone, bravo!
Twat "Ah I've enjoyed playing with you, but now you are being distasteful, childish and insulting. I'm really scared pf that. | |||
"I lost interest in Brand the minute he said he had never voted. To me, this means he has no right to be taken seriously in a political discussion. Why vote for something which doesn't represent your views? It's a false economy to vote for something for the sake of it just because it only has perhaps 1 or 2 things you like about it." Some might think that by not voting they're making a stand (as Mr Brand would have us believe), but the reality is that a low voter turnout pretty much ensures that nothing will change. The ones in power and the established party faithful will always vote; ergo, they get to stay in power because not enough people bother to go out there and vote against them. There are always plenty of alternatives to vote for in an election, and even a protest vote helps to send a message to the establishment. Democracy relies on people getting off their arses once every 5 years or so. | |||
"I lost interest in Brand the minute he said he had never voted. To me, this means he has no right to be taken seriously in a political discussion. Why vote for something which doesn't represent your views? It's a false economy to vote for something for the sake of it just because it only has perhaps 1 or 2 things you like about it. Some might think that by not voting they're making a stand (as Mr Brand would have us believe), but the reality is that a low voter turnout pretty much ensures that nothing will change. The ones in power and the established party faithful will always vote; ergo, they get to stay in power because not enough people bother to go out there and vote against them. There are always plenty of alternatives to vote for in an election, and even a protest vote helps to send a message to the establishment. Democracy relies on people getting off their arses once every 5 years or so." .. Getting off their arses EVERY 5 Years!!. It'll never catch on | |||
" As for not voting, if you don't vote for change your supporting whoever ends up in power. I appreciate your point, but what good is voting for change when it is just the opposite side of the same coin, that has led us to this point in time now where people are truly fed up with politics, because they realise the scam. Whatever you choose, it's always the same." The real issue is that politicians tell us they will do one thing in their manifesto's and then either do something else or nothing, only rarely delivering their promises. The way to cure it is to have a campaign of administrative disobedience. Not completing forms, those who pay their tax under self-assessment (approx 8m people) not completing their forms, we cannot all be prosecuted they cannot cope with it. Not funding the political system is the way to bring it to account. There would be short term pain - but long term gain as those that pretend to represent us have to actually listen. If people and corporations approved of the way tax was spent they would not be so tempted to avoid it. There needs to be change! Many people have forgotten how to be self-reliant as the state is all giving. This has caused the increase in the selfish attitudes of many and the beginning of the breakdown of society. Merely the ramblings of a middle aged cynic! | |||
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should add now that everyone knows he pays rent to a tax avoiding landlord (while leading protests against tax avoidance), and claims to be anti capitalist (while selling his booky wooky and making millions of pounds profit)....#Hypocrite. | |||
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"It's a bit of a nonsense really, he's not avoiding tax but his landlord is, and he's campaigning to get this very thing changed. Where is the hypocrisy again?. It's like claiming people who have a job can't complain about employment rights. "If he knows this about his landlord and takes the high profile principled view he does, then he could easily move house and pay rent to someone less dodgy, why is he paying rent anyway, surely the money he earns he can afford to buy any house? I find the whole set up very odd for someone of his wealth. | |||
"It's a bit of a nonsense really, he's not avoiding tax but his landlord is, and he's campaigning to get this very thing changed. Where is the hypocrisy again?. It's like claiming people who have a job can't complain about employment rights.
If he knows this about his landlord and takes the high profile principled view he does, then he could easily move house and pay rent to someone less dodgy, why is he paying rent anyway, surely the money he earns he can afford to buy any house? I find the whole set up very odd for someone of his wealth. ". I don't know maybe he rents because he likes to move about. Maybe he didn't know the landlord was a tax "avoider". Maybe if he moved the next landlord would be doing exactly the same and that's why he's campaigning against it. If newscorp has had their full crew at him for a story. He must be pretty clean if that's the best they can come up with. And does that make the sun a double hypocrite.. They don't pay tax and neither does rupert Murdoch! | |||
"Did someone mention Russel Brand? #Parklife.
should add now that everyone knows he pays rent to a tax avoiding landlord (while leading protests against tax avoidance), and claims to be anti capitalist (while selling his booky wooky and making millions of pounds profit)....#Hypocrite."I doubt any author makes millions of pounds. Can you quantify that figure? | |||
"Did someone mention Russel Brand? #Parklife.
should add now that everyone knows he pays rent to a tax avoiding landlord (while leading protests against tax avoidance), and claims to be anti capitalist (while selling his booky wooky and making millions of pounds profit)....#Hypocrite.
I doubt any author makes millions of pounds. Can you quantify that figure?"Some do. Jamie Oliver, Delia Smith and Katy Price have all earned millions from book sales. I would imagine Mr Brand has the potential to be in the same league, particularly with all the air time he's getting. | |||
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"Did someone mention Russel Brand? #Parklife.
should add now that everyone knows he pays rent to a tax avoiding landlord (while leading protests against tax avoidance), and claims to be anti capitalist (while selling his booky wooky and making millions of pounds profit)....#Hypocrite.
I doubt any author makes millions of pounds. Can you quantify that figure?
Some do. Jamie Oliver, Delia Smith and Katy Price have all earned millions from book sales. I would imagine Mr Brand has the potential to be in the same league, particularly with all the air time he's getting."Went off for my dinner and you answered it before i could, JK Rowling also earned multi millions from book sales Harry Potter, etc, the lady who wrote 50 shades of Grey, E L James also made £33 million from sales of that book. | |||
"Did someone mention Russel Brand? #Parklife.
should add now that everyone knows he pays rent to a tax avoiding landlord (while leading protests against tax avoidance), and claims to be anti capitalist (while selling his booky wooky and making millions of pounds profit)....#Hypocrite." | |||
"Did someone mention Russel Brand? #Parklife.
should add now that everyone knows he pays rent to a tax avoiding landlord (while leading protests against tax avoidance), and claims to be anti capitalist (while selling his booky wooky and making millions of pounds profit)....#Hypocrite.
I doubt any author makes millions of pounds. Can you quantify that figure?
Some do. Jamie Oliver, Delia Smith and Katy Price have all earned millions from book sales. I would imagine Mr Brand has the potential to be in the same league, particularly with all the air time he's getting.
Went off for my dinner and you answered it before i could, JK Rowling also earned multi millions from book sales Harry Potter, etc, the lady who wrote 50 shades of Grey, E L James also made £33 million from sales of that book."Are you seriously suggesting that Brands book sales are comparable to some of the most popular books in recent years? Seriously? | |||
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"Did someone mention Russel Brand? #Parklife.
should add now that everyone knows he pays rent to a tax avoiding landlord (while leading protests against tax avoidance), and claims to be anti capitalist (while selling his booky wooky and making millions of pounds profit)....#Hypocrite.
I doubt any author makes millions of pounds. Can you quantify that figure?
Some do. Jamie Oliver, Delia Smith and Katy Price have all earned millions from book sales. I would imagine Mr Brand has the potential to be in the same league, particularly with all the air time he's getting.
Went off for my dinner and you answered it before i could, JK Rowling also earned multi millions from book sales Harry Potter, etc, the lady who wrote 50 shades of Grey, E L James also made £33 million from sales of that book.
Are you seriously suggesting that Brands book sales are comparable to some of the most popular books in recent years? Seriously?"You said and i quote "i doubt any author makes millions of pounds".
Other posters on this thread along with myself have pointed out to you that many authors make millions of pounds, pretty stupid of you to assume they would'nt really, lol. | |||
"Did someone mention Russel Brand? #Parklife.
should add now that everyone knows he pays rent to a tax avoiding landlord (while leading protests against tax avoidance), and claims to be anti capitalist (while selling his booky wooky and making millions of pounds profit)....#Hypocrite.
I doubt any author makes millions of pounds. Can you quantify that figure?
Some do. Jamie Oliver, Delia Smith and Katy Price have all earned millions from book sales. I would imagine Mr Brand has the potential to be in the same league, particularly with all the air time he's getting.
Went off for my dinner and you answered it before i could, JK Rowling also earned multi millions from book sales Harry Potter, etc, the lady who wrote 50 shades of Grey, E L James also made £33 million from sales of that book.
Are you seriously suggesting that Brands book sales are comparable to some of the most popular books in recent years? Seriously?
You said and i quote "i doubt any author makes millions of pounds".
Other posters on this thread along with myself have pointed out to you that many authors make millions of pounds, pretty stupid of you to assume they would'nt really, lol. "Actually it was a typo and should have said many. That said, it's pretty obvious that when I asked if you could quantify it, 'it' was clearly relating to the claim in your post and unlikely to be refering to my own | |||
"Did someone mention Russel Brand? #Parklife.
should add now that everyone knows he pays rent to a tax avoiding landlord (while leading protests against tax avoidance), and claims to be anti capitalist (while selling his booky wooky and making millions of pounds profit)....#Hypocrite.
I doubt any author makes millions of pounds. Can you quantify that figure?
Some do. Jamie Oliver, Delia Smith and Katy Price have all earned millions from book sales. I would imagine Mr Brand has the potential to be in the same league, particularly with all the air time he's getting.
Went off for my dinner and you answered it before i could, JK Rowling also earned multi millions from book sales Harry Potter, etc, the lady who wrote 50 shades of Grey, E L James also made £33 million from sales of that book.
Are you seriously suggesting that Brands book sales are comparable to some of the most popular books in recent years? Seriously?
You said and i quote "i doubt any author makes millions of pounds".
Other posters on this thread along with myself have pointed out to you that many authors make millions of pounds, pretty stupid of you to assume they would'nt really, lol.
Actually it was a typo and should have said many.
That said, it's pretty obvious that when I asked if you could quantify it, 'it' was clearly relating to the claim in your post and unlikely to be refering to my own "Yeah, yeah, we believe you. | |||
"Did someone mention Russel Brand? #Parklife.
should add now that everyone knows he pays rent to a tax avoiding landlord (while leading protests against tax avoidance), and claims to be anti capitalist (while selling his booky wooky and making millions of pounds profit)....#Hypocrite.
I doubt any author makes millions of pounds. Can you quantify that figure?
Some do. Jamie Oliver, Delia Smith and Katy Price have all earned millions from book sales. I would imagine Mr Brand has the potential to be in the same league, particularly with all the air time he's getting.
Went off for my dinner and you answered it before i could, JK Rowling also earned multi millions from book sales Harry Potter, etc, the lady who wrote 50 shades of Grey, E L James also made £33 million from sales of that book.
Are you seriously suggesting that Brands book sales are comparable to some of the most popular books in recent years? Seriously?
You said and i quote "i doubt any author makes millions of pounds".
Other posters on this thread along with myself have pointed out to you that many authors make millions of pounds, pretty stupid of you to assume they would'nt really, lol.
Actually it was a typo and should have said many.
That said, it's pretty obvious that when I asked if you could quantify it, 'it' was clearly relating to the claim in your post and unlikely to be refering to my own
Yeah, yeah, we believe you. "Yet you still seem reluctant to quantify your claim that Brand earns millions from book sales? | |||
"I think it's very easy to criticise Russell Brand, he's a millionaire yes, but that doesn't mean he's a hypocrite. He grew up in Grays in a poor family taking hard drugs regularly , he rose from nothing, and has probably been through more difficultly than most people. The guy could quite happily retire tomorrow and never have to do an appearance or write a book again, but he realises the corruption and lies and deciet that is rife throughout the government and if he can make the regular joe public switched on to this, then who honestly cares if he's a millionaire? If he can make the blind see the truth then in my opinion he is best politican we could ever hope for, because your current one are in bed with large corporations, generating war for profits. " Doesn't stop him being an irritating cunt with an ego bigger than Norfolk. He is about as funny as a fart in a spacesuit.....which sounds funny until I tell you it's your spacesuit! Anyway no-one was having a go at what he said (and it wasn't the daily mail, it was the campaign for clear English). The point they made was that no-one can understand the utter bollocks that cones out of his mouth. Don't think he does half the time. I remember seeing him on question time a while back....never heard so much bollocks in my life.....until I read some of the posts on here! | |||
"I think it's very easy to criticise Russell Brand, he's a millionaire yes, but that doesn't mean he's a hypocrite. He grew up in Grays in a poor family taking hard drugs regularly , he rose from nothing, and has probably been through more difficultly than most people. The guy could quite happily retire tomorrow and never have to do an appearance or write a book again, but he realises the corruption and lies and deciet that is rife throughout the government and if he can make the regular joe public switched on to this, then who honestly cares if he's a millionaire? If he can make the blind see the truth then in my opinion he is best politican we could ever hope for, because your current one are in bed with large corporations, generating war for profits. Doesn't stop him being an irritating cunt with an ego bigger than Norfolk. He is about as funny as a fart in a spacesuit.....which sounds funny until I tell you it's your spacesuit! Anyway no-one was having a go at what he said (and it wasn't the daily mail, it was the campaign for clear English). The point they made was that no-one can understand the utter bollocks that cones out of his mouth. Don't think he does half the time. I remember seeing him on question time a while back....never heard so much bollocks in my life.....until I read some of the posts on here!" cones ? | |||
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"Did someone mention Russel Brand? #Parklife.
should add now that everyone knows he pays rent to a tax avoiding landlord (while leading protests against tax avoidance), and claims to be anti capitalist (while selling his booky wooky and making millions of pounds profit)....#Hypocrite.
I doubt any author makes millions of pounds. Can you quantify that figure?
Some do. Jamie Oliver, Delia Smith and Katy Price have all earned millions from book sales. I would imagine Mr Brand has the potential to be in the same league, particularly with all the air time he's getting.
Went off for my dinner and you answered it before i could, JK Rowling also earned multi millions from book sales Harry Potter, etc, the lady who wrote 50 shades of Grey, E L James also made £33 million from sales of that book.
Are you seriously suggesting that Brands book sales are comparable to some of the most popular books in recent years? Seriously?
You said and i quote "i doubt any author makes millions of pounds".
Other posters on this thread along with myself have pointed out to you that many authors make millions of pounds, pretty stupid of you to assume they would'nt really, lol.
Actually it was a typo and should have said many.
That said, it's pretty obvious that when I asked if you could quantify it, 'it' was clearly relating to the claim in your post and unlikely to be refering to my own
Yeah, yeah, we believe you.
Yet you still seem reluctant to quantify your claim that Brand earns millions from book sales?"He has apparently sold 600,000 copies at £8.95 a pop, so about £6m in sales, not sure how much goes to the publisher but it is still a decent profit for the author. Fair play to him in my view, but if he genuinely wants to rage against the establishment then use the cash in a way that supports his cause. | |||
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"Did someone mention Russel Brand? #Parklife.
should add now that everyone knows he pays rent to a tax avoiding landlord (while leading protests against tax avoidance), and claims to be anti capitalist (while selling his booky wooky and making millions of pounds profit)....#Hypocrite.
I doubt any author makes millions of pounds. Can you quantify that figure?
Some do. Jamie Oliver, Delia Smith and Katy Price have all earned millions from book sales. I would imagine Mr Brand has the potential to be in the same league, particularly with all the air time he's getting.
Went off for my dinner and you answered it before i could, JK Rowling also earned multi millions from book sales Harry Potter, etc, the lady who wrote 50 shades of Grey, E L James also made £33 million from sales of that book.
Are you seriously suggesting that Brands book sales are comparable to some of the most popular books in recent years? Seriously?
You said and i quote "i doubt any author makes millions of pounds".
Other posters on this thread along with myself have pointed out to you that many authors make millions of pounds, pretty stupid of you to assume they would'nt really, lol.
Actually it was a typo and should have said many.
That said, it's pretty obvious that when I asked if you could quantify it, 'it' was clearly relating to the claim in your post and unlikely to be refering to my own
Yeah, yeah, we believe you.
Yet you still seem reluctant to quantify your claim that Brand earns millions from book sales?
He has apparently sold 600,000 copies at £8.95 a pop, so about £6m in sales, not sure how much goes to the publisher but it is still a decent profit for the author. Fair play to him in my view, but if he genuinely wants to rage against the establishment then use the cash in a way that supports his cause."A friend of mine has had a few books published and he gets 10p a copy sold. Maybe celebs get more, I have no idea. | |||
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"I find it odd that people on here denigrate the likes of Farage and Brand for the wealth they have, who / what they are or stand for, that they're liars, etc, etc, etc. But don't say the same about any of the others... Brown, Blair, Cameron, Clegg, Militant, et al." It might be down to the fact that this thread is about Brand & Farage. | |||
"I find it odd that people on here denigrate the likes of Farage and Brand for the wealth they have, who / what they are or stand for, that they're liars, etc, etc, etc. But don't say the same about any of the others... Brown, Blair, Cameron, Clegg, Militant, et al. They also then really have a go at them for being part of 'The System' or the 'Establishment', saying that Farage, Brand etc have no interest in changing anything that they are a part of. These are generally the same people who say we should stay in the EU because ' we can only change it if we're part of it'..... The hypocrisy of it amazes me." Nope; I think Cameron, Clegg, Milliband et al. are in exactly the same camp. And no; I don't think we should be in the EU either. | |||
I'll be tuning in to watch it next thursday 11th December, maybe fun to watch them have a pop at each other, lol. | |||
"It said at the end of question time on BBC 1 last night that on next weeks panel will be Russel Brand and Nigel Farage.
I'll be tuning in to watch it next thursday 11th December, maybe fun to watch them have a pop at each other, lol."Great plug for the show - squeezed all the details in!! I don't often watch it - but may catch it on iPlayer at some point. | |||
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"Odd headline from the Sun - claiming that Russel Brand pays his rent (76k pa) to a landlord - who happens to be a tax dodger... I'm wondering, what exactly is he being accused of? I pay rent to a landlord....a very rich one... he may be a tax dodger too...hmmm.." Haven't read it but isn't he protesting about the system of rich, tax dodging landlords whilst basically supporting such a system through his actions? | |||
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"Personally I agree with Johnny Lydon's opinion of Brand "Russel brands eyes | |||
"Odd headline from the Sun - claiming that Russel Brand pays his rent (76k pa) to a landlord - who happens to be a tax dodger... I'm wondering, what exactly is he being accused of? I pay rent to a landlord....a very rich one... he may be a tax dodger too...hmmm.." The Sun seem very selective about who they criticise for tax avoidance. | |||
"Odd headline from the Sun - claiming that Russel Brand pays his rent (76k pa) to a landlord - who happens to be a tax dodger... I'm wondering, what exactly is he being accused of? I pay rent to a landlord....a very rich one... he may be a tax dodger too...hmmm.. The Sun seem very selective about who they criticise for tax avoidance. " why do you think that is? | |||
"Odd headline from the Sun - claiming that Russel Brand pays his rent (76k pa) to a landlord - who happens to be a tax dodger... I'm wondering, what exactly is he being accused of? I pay rent to a landlord....a very rich one... he may be a tax dodger too...hmmm.. Haven't read it but isn't he protesting about the system of rich, tax dodging landlords whilst basically supporting such a system through his actions?"
As the reporter in the snidegate video asked Brand are you part of the problem you are campaigning against?
Then Brand goes on to call him a snide, usually a sign someone is losing an argument when they resort to name calling. | |||
"Odd headline from the Sun - claiming that Russel Brand pays his rent (76k pa) to a landlord - who happens to be a tax dodger... I'm wondering, what exactly is he being accused of? I pay rent to a landlord....a very rich one... he may be a tax dodger too...hmmm.. Haven't read it but isn't he protesting about the system of rich, tax dodging landlords whilst basically supporting such a system through his actions?
As the reporter in the snidegate video asked Brand are you part of the problem you are campaigning against?
Then Brand goes on to call him a snide, usually a sign someone is losing an argument when they resort to name calling. ". No he was well known to him and had tried to do a hatchet job on him before. I've said it before.... If they've put all their best men onto him and all they can find is that trivial shitty bit of gossip, he must be a pretty clean living fella | |||
" Haven't read it but isn't he protesting about the system of rich, tax dodging landlords whilst basically supporting such a system through his actions?" I think it was more rich landlords raising rent and driving people out - because they can't afford to pay.... Brand pays all his rent via an estate agent as do many people... The tax dodging that other people do such as his landlord...can't really be a tenants problem. My own landlord may be dodging tax- how would I know? I just pay him some money so my family and I have a place to stay while we save for a place of our own. | |||
"Farage is an ex-tory and a banker. Brand is a millionaire celebrity. Hardly challenging the system. More like they are the system." | |||
"point? you have 2 guys who challenge torys and labour who are corrupt as fuck and you turn it round on their finances......a pretty petty argument....when taking into account the vast amounts being taken from us by the real villians here ....but lets keep shifting attention away from the truth and pick on a beer drinker and a waffler
I mention their finances as they are both multi-multi millionaires. They are rich. Therefore; they are the system.
So how can multi millionaires represent ordinary poor people exactly?"I don't agree with either of them but your point seems to be that anyone who is a position to have their voice heard is part of the system. So who can speak for anyone. Or do the poor, deprived, disposest or just dissatisfied have to learn to speak for themselves. I honestly wish that we could just forget the personalities and concentrate on what they are saying and fight them on that alone. After all a policy or an idea is either a good or bad regales of who or where it originates from. | |||
"I find it odd that people on here denigrate the likes of Farage and Brand for the wealth they have, who / what they are or stand for, that they're liars, etc, etc, etc. But don't say the same about any of the others... Brown, Blair, Cameron, Clegg, Militant, et al. It might be down to the fact that this thread is about Brand & Farage. " And they do to. It seems no one can talk about politics on here with out trying to totally discredit those that disagree with them. The reality of that is it always ends up in a name calling, mud slinging contest and know one knows anything more about what anyone is trying to say than before the thread started. It such a shame really when there are real issues that could and should be discussed. | |||
"They also then really have a go at them for being part of 'The System' or the 'Establishment', saying that Farage, Brand etc have no interest in changing anything that they are a part of. These are generally the same people who say we should stay in the EU because ' we can only change it if we're part of it'..... The hypocrisy of it amazes me." Well I don't say they have no interest, I have no idea what their real interest are so I'll give them the respect that what they say they are fighting for is what their interest are. I've also never denigrated Farage, Brand, Cameron, Glegg, Brown, Blair or Milliband. What's the point of denigrating any of them. It's not like there is some shining white night just waiting to take other and make the world perfect. I have, on the other hand, argued against Farage's policy on the EU and other things because I think they are wrong. And, when I've read Brand's comments, I may argue against them to. | |||
"I find it odd that people on here denigrate the likes of Farage and Brand for the wealth they have, who / what they are or stand for, that they're liars, etc, etc, etc. But don't say the same about any of the others... Brown, Blair, Cameron, Clegg, Militant, et al. It might be down to the fact that this thread is about Brand & Farage. And they do to. It seems no one can talk about politics on here with out trying to totally discredit those that disagree with them. The reality of that is it always ends up in a name calling, mud slinging contest and know one knows anything more about what anyone is trying to say than before the thread started. It such a shame really when there are real issues that could and should be discussed." The article was NOT denigrating Brand for WHAT he was trying to say....it was the fact that he has a very poor grasp of the English language and no-one could understand wtf he was actually saying unless they had in interpreter. His English is about as good as Del Boys French. | |||
" The article was NOT denigrating Brand for WHAT he was trying to say....it was the fact that he has a very poor grasp of the English language and no-one could understand wtf he was actually saying unless they had in interpreter. His English is about as good as Del Boys French." There was the article on the front page of the sun that called him a hypocrite because he was renting (via an estate agent) off a landlord who was quite possibly a tax dodger. I don't think Brand's English is particularly bad at all - though perhaps at times he can sound very pretentious. Generally speaking his messages about the causes he supports get through without losing too much of their meaning. | |||
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"I don't rate Brand in terms of what he puts out as his job, it's just not my humour. But I find it wildly hypocritical of the Sun and other right wing media to try and silence Brand or brow beat him to shut up because they don't like what he is saying. After all the fuss they kicked up about press regulation attacking freedom of the press it's a bit rich to have then try to shut down Russell Brand. I don't see that anything Brand has said is untrue. The Sun and other media just hate the fact that they're not controlling the story as they usually do. Newspapers are not newspapers they are the mechanisms for political campaigning and propaganda with a bit of news thrown in. We need more people like Brand to speak up. " Is'nt it the same with Farage though? The left wing media, BBC and the guardian newspaper trying to brow beat him to shut up because they don't like what he is saying. Is'nt what Farage said just basic common sense, in that businesses could act in curtain circumstances if they get complains? As you said newspapers are not newspapers they are mechanisms for political campaigning and propoganda with a bit of news thrown in. | |||
"I don't rate Brand in terms of what he puts out as his job, it's just not my humour. But I find it wildly hypocritical of the Sun and other right wing media to try and silence Brand or brow beat him to shut up because they don't like what he is saying. After all the fuss they kicked up about press regulation attacking freedom of the press it's a bit rich to have then try to shut down Russell Brand. I don't see that anything Brand has said is untrue. The Sun and other media just hate the fact that they're not controlling the story as they usually do. Newspapers are not newspapers they are the mechanisms for political campaigning and propaganda with a bit of news thrown in. We need more people like Brand to speak up. Is'nt it the same with Farage though? The left wing media, BBC and the guardian newspaper trying to brow beat him to shut up because they don't like what he is saying. Is'nt what Farage said just basic common sense, in that businesses could act in curtain circumstances if they get complains? As you said newspapers are not newspapers they are mechanisms for political campaigning and propoganda with a bit of news thrown in. " *certain circumstances not curtain, lol. | |||
" Is'nt it the same with Farage though? The left wing media, BBC and the guardian newspaper trying to brow beat him to shut up because they don't like what he is saying. Is'nt what Farage said just basic common sense, in that businesses could act in curtain circumstances if they get complains? As you said newspapers are not newspapers they are mechanisms for political campaigning and propoganda with a bit of news thrown in. " In terms of what happened at Claridge's then yes Farage was totally taken out of context. But that happens to all politicians. It's no more true of Farage than it is of Clegg. I dispute the assumption that the BBC is left wing. I don't see that at all. I think they've been much too easy on the Tories over the past 4 years. As for the Guardian, they make no bones about the fact that it's a left wing newspaper but the quality of reporting is far superior than most newspapers. You might not like the opinion they take but they often present the data in their articles and then go on to critique it with their opinion, they don't pick the bits out that best suit their argument and leave out the rest in my opinion. What happened with Brand was that certain newspapers didn't like what he was saying and so they resorted to the most childish personal attacks to try to belittle and shame him. The Guardian and BBC don't do that to Farage on the same level. I don't think you can equate Brand to Farage in the case of how the media treat them. It's the wrong comparison to make. | |||
" Is'nt it the same with Farage though? The left wing media, BBC and the guardian newspaper trying to brow beat him to shut up because they don't like what he is saying. Is'nt what Farage said just basic common sense, in that businesses could act in curtain circumstances if they get complains? As you said newspapers are not newspapers they are mechanisms for political campaigning and propoganda with a bit of news thrown in. In terms of what happened at Claridge's then yes Farage was totally taken out of context. But that happens to all politicians. It's no more true of Farage than it is of Clegg. I dispute the assumption that the BBC is left wing. I don't see that at all. I think they've been much too easy on the Tories over the past 4 years. As for the Guardian, they make no bones about the fact that it's a left wing newspaper but the quality of reporting is far superior than most newspapers. You might not like the opinion they take but they often present the data in their articles and then go on to critique it with their opinion, they don't pick the bits out that best suit their argument and leave out the rest in my opinion. What happened with Brand was that certain newspapers didn't like what he was saying and so they resorted to the most childish personal attacks to try to belittle and shame him. The Guardian and BBC don't do that to Farage on the same level. I don't think you can equate Brand to Farage in the case of how the media treat them. It's the wrong comparison to make. " Michael Portillo now works for the BBC and he said himself on the "This week" programme on thursday night that he thought the BBC had a left of centre agenda. | |||
" Is'nt it the same with Farage though? The left wing media, BBC and the guardian newspaper trying to brow beat him to shut up because they don't like what he is saying. Is'nt what Farage said just basic common sense, in that businesses could act in curtain circumstances if they get complains? As you said newspapers are not newspapers they are mechanisms for political campaigning and propoganda with a bit of news thrown in. In terms of what happened at Claridge's then yes Farage was totally taken out of context. But that happens to all politicians. It's no more true of Farage than it is of Clegg. I dispute the assumption that the BBC is left wing. I don't see that at all. I think they've been much too easy on the Tories over the past 4 years. As for the Guardian, they make no bones about the fact that it's a left wing newspaper but the quality of reporting is far superior than most newspapers. You might not like the opinion they take but they often present the data in their articles and then go on to critique it with their opinion, they don't pick the bits out that best suit their argument and leave out the rest in my opinion. What happened with Brand was that certain newspapers didn't like what he was saying and so they resorted to the most childish personal attacks to try to belittle and shame him. The Guardian and BBC don't do that to Farage on the same level. I don't think you can equate Brand to Farage in the case of how the media treat them. It's the wrong comparison to make. Michael Portillo now works for the BBC and he said himself on the "This week" programme on thursday night that he thought the BBC had a left of centre agenda." That doesn't mean to say he's objective - just that there are a number of conflicts of interest. Papers like the Telegraph and Guardian have clear lines drawn... the BBC flip flops like a confused politician. | |||
" Is'nt it the same with Farage though? The left wing media, BBC and the guardian newspaper trying to brow beat him to shut up because they don't like what he is saying. Is'nt what Farage said just basic common sense, in that businesses could act in curtain circumstances if they get complains? As you said newspapers are not newspapers they are mechanisms for political campaigning and propoganda with a bit of news thrown in. In terms of what happened at Claridge's then yes Farage was totally taken out of context. But that happens to all politicians. It's no more true of Farage than it is of Clegg. I dispute the assumption that the BBC is left wing. I don't see that at all. I think they've been much too easy on the Tories over the past 4 years. As for the Guardian, they make no bones about the fact that it's a left wing newspaper but the quality of reporting is far superior than most newspapers. You might not like the opinion they take but they often present the data in their articles and then go on to critique it with their opinion, they don't pick the bits out that best suit their argument and leave out the rest in my opinion. What happened with Brand was that certain newspapers didn't like what he was saying and so they resorted to the most childish personal attacks to try to belittle and shame him. The Guardian and BBC don't do that to Farage on the same level. I don't think you can equate Brand to Farage in the case of how the media treat them. It's the wrong comparison to make. Michael Portillo now works for the BBC and he said himself on the "This week" programme on thursday night that he thought the BBC had a left of centre agenda." I would add that The Sun went with Brands story on their front page and the Guardian went with the Farage story on their front page. If its good for one side then it has to be good for the other. | |||
" Michael Portillo now works for the BBC and he said himself on the "This week" programme on thursday night that he thought the BBC had a left of centre agenda." I don't care what Michael Portillo thinks. I go on what I observe myself and not what other people want me to believe. He's a Tory, he would say that. He also said that the BBC shouldn't capitulate so easily into apologising for being critical of the Tory government. He certainly has no problem being paid by the BBC. | |||
" I would add that The Sun went with Brands story on their front page and the Guardian went with the Farage story on their front page. If its good for one side then it has to be good for the other. " If you equate an outspoken celebrity to the leader of a political party who is canvassing for votes then that's your choice but I don't buy that comparison. | |||
