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By *eavensent78 OP Couple over a year ago

west mids

Watching the news just seen that Darren Wilson said he has a clear conscience after shooting Michael Brown is he trying to make things worse with comments like that ?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If thats how he feels then he should be able to say that

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By *histler21Man over a year ago

Ipswich

"Watching the news just seen that Darren Wilson said he has a clear conscience after shooting Michael Brown is he trying to make things worse with comments like that ?

If he did his job according to the book - then maybe he does. Should he feel a bit guilty that someone died - I think he should.

Maybe he is someone who doesn't show emotion that well...

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By *eavensent78 OP Couple over a year ago

west mids

"If thats how he feels then he should be able to say that"

Shooting an unarmed person 12 times really

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If thats how he feels then he should be able to say that

Shooting an unarmed person 12 times really

Like I say,if thats how he feels then he should be able to say that

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By *om Tom 1969Man over a year ago

liverpool

"If thats how he feels then he should be able to say that

Shooting an unarmed person 12 times really

Like I say,if thats how he feels then he should be able to say that

Of course,,,he could choose to sayanything he wants to.....eg

I'm happy that I wasted the goddam motherf ni,,,

But surely at a time of heightened social and racial tension, he should or could have been advised to choose more carefully thought out sentiments....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I don't know what the authorities or he were thinking in going on national TV, whatever he said he was unlikely to make an already explosive situation any better.

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By *couser83Man over a year ago

Liverpool

Am sure this is going to go down well with the people.....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If thats how he feels then he should be able to say that

Shooting an unarmed person 12 times really

Like I say,if thats how he feels then he should be able to say that

Of course,,,he could choose to sayanything he wants to.....eg

I'm happy that I wasted the goddam motherf ni,,,

But surely at a time of heightened social and racial tension, he should or could have been advised to choose more carefully thought out sentiments...."

You have made more of a racial issue by using the comment mother fucking nigger

Why have you done that?

Did he say that?

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By *izzy RascallMan over a year ago

Cardiff

"If thats how he feels then he should be able to say that

Shooting an unarmed person 12 times really

Like I say,if thats how he feels then he should be able to say that

Of course,,,he could choose to sayanything he wants to.....eg

I'm happy that I wasted the goddam motherf ni,,,

But surely at a time of heightened social and racial tension, he should or could have been advised to choose more carefully thought out sentiments...."

How do you know he wasn't?

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By *eavensent78 OP Couple over a year ago

west mids

"If thats how he feels then he should be able to say that

Shooting an unarmed person 12 times really

Like I say,if thats how he feels then he should be able to say that

So is it ok for Muslim extremists to be shouting about chopping off people's heads and saying people who don't follow Islam should be killed as that's how they feel

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If thats how he feels then he should be able to say that

Shooting an unarmed person 12 times really

Like I say,if thats how he feels then he should be able to say that

So is it ok for Muslim extremists to be shouting about chopping off people's heads and saying people who don't follow Islam should be killed as that's how they feel

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If thats how he feels then he should be able to say that

Shooting an unarmed person 12 times really

Like I say,if thats how he feels then he should be able to say that

So is it ok for Muslim extremists to be shouting about chopping off people's heads and saying people who don't follow Islam should be killed as that's how they feel

Has he said that? No!

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By *izzy RascallMan over a year ago

Cardiff

Great time for that old cliche

Two wrongs dont make a right

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Gotta love how people try and make absolutely ridiculous assumptions about how people think in here

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By *eavensent78 OP Couple over a year ago

west mids

"If thats how he feels then he should be able to say that

Shooting an unarmed person 12 times really

Like I say,if thats how he feels then he should be able to say that

So is it ok for Muslim extremists to be shouting about chopping off people's heads and saying people who don't follow Islam should be killed as that's how they feel

Has he said that? No!

I'm not saying he said that but your basically saying you can say what you feel so I was using Muslim extremists as a example

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By *couser83Man over a year ago

Liverpool

"Gotta love how people try and make absolutely ridiculous assumptions about how people think in here

I think you want me.....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If thats how he feels then he should be able to say that

Shooting an unarmed person 12 times really

Like I say,if thats how he feels then he should be able to say that

So is it ok for Muslim extremists to be shouting about chopping off people's heads and saying people who don't follow Islam should be killed as that's how they feel

Has he said that? No!

I'm not saying he said that but your basically saying you can say what you feel so I was using Muslim extremists as a example

Well don't because my comment had nothing to do with muslim extremists and neither does this thread

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Gotta love how people try and make absolutely ridiculous assumptions about how people think in here

I think you want me.....

.....sod off!

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By *izzy RascallMan over a year ago

Cardiff

'Basically saying'

You should take a reply word for word and not put words in peoples mouths.

This is so annoying when having an argument in the real world. Shouldnt exist on a forum when you have a 'quote' option

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By *om Tom 1969Man over a year ago

liverpool

"If thats how he feels then he should be able to say that

Shooting an unarmed person 12 times really

Like I say,if thats how he feels then he should be able to say that

Of course,,,he could choose to sayanything he wants to.....eg

I'm happy that I wasted the goddam motherf ni,,,

But surely at a time of heightened social and racial tension, he should or could have been advised to choose more carefully thought out sentiments....

You have made more of a racial issue by using the comment mother fucking nigger

Why have you done that?

Did he say that?"

I havent made it a racial issue, it already is one. You have said that he should be allowed to say what he is thinking, so I have used an analogy that may or may not be the truth, which makes your comment naive

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By *couser83Man over a year ago

Liverpool

"Gotta love how people try and make absolutely ridiculous assumptions about how people think in here

I think you want me.....

.....sod off!"

Lol

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By *eavensent78 OP Couple over a year ago

west mids

"If thats how he feels then he should be able to say that

Shooting an unarmed person 12 times really

Like I say,if thats how he feels then he should be able to say that

So is it ok for Muslim extremists to be shouting about chopping off people's heads and saying people who don't follow Islam should be killed as that's how they feel

Has he said that? No!

I'm not saying he said that but your basically saying you can say what you feel so I was using Muslim extremists as a example

Well don't because my comment had nothing to do with muslim extremists and neither does this thread"

It's a comparison your saying the cop can say what he feels so is that the same for everyone

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Think he was wrong and should lose his position

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If thats how he feels then he should be able to say that

Shooting an unarmed person 12 times really

Like I say,if thats how he feels then he should be able to say that

Of course,,,he could choose to sayanything he wants to.....eg

I'm happy that I wasted the goddam motherf ni,,,

But surely at a time of heightened social and racial tension, he should or could have been advised to choose more carefully thought out sentiments....

You have made more of a racial issue by using the comment mother fucking nigger

Why have you done that?

Did he say that?

No it doesn't make it naive

He is not going to be prosecuted,he did what he did in the line of duty and he feels he has a clear conscience

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Their are clear rules where guns are concerned it was a child was his vision impaired

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By *anchestercubMan over a year ago

manchester & NI

He might be saying that for legal reasons. Who knows what's in his head.

As I understand it the Brown family are considering filing civil charges against him (if they haven't already decided to).

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If thats how he feels then he should be able to say that

Shooting an unarmed person 12 times really

Like I say,if thats how he feels then he should be able to say that

So is it ok for Muslim extremists to be shouting about chopping off people's heads and saying people who don't follow Islam should be killed as that's how they feel

Has he said that? No!

I'm not saying he said that but your basically saying you can say what you feel so I was using Muslim extremists as a example

Well don't because my comment had nothing to do with muslim extremists and neither does this thread

It's a comparison your saying the cop can say what he feels so is that the same for everyone "

Its not a comparison of any sort therefore pointless me getting involved with whatever agenda you want to draw me into

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Purehoneypot do you have a sexy arse yes fact ,did that copper shoot a kid holding a toy gun yes fact ,should he see that as a just act no fact

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By *organ and rob zombieCouple over a year ago

bradford

"If thats how he feels then he should be able to say that"

I agree!!!

dammed if ya do dammed If ya dont and all that

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Purehoneypot do you have a sexy arse yes fact ,did that copper shoot a kid holding a toy gun yes fact ,should he see that as a just act no fact

What are you even talking about,it has bugger all to do with this thread

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By *om Tom 1969Man over a year ago

liverpool

So there are people on here who would be happy that if there child was (stupidly) waving an imitation weapon around, that they should be shot twelve times 'all in the line of duty'

Wasnt that a similar comment that Nazis used to hide behind?

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By *eavensent78 OP Couple over a year ago

west mids

"If thats how he feels then he should be able to say that

Shooting an unarmed person 12 times really

Like I say,if thats how he feels then he should be able to say that

So is it ok for Muslim extremists to be shouting about chopping off people's heads and saying people who don't follow Islam should be killed as that's how they feel

Has he said that? No!

I'm not saying he said that but your basically saying you can say what you feel so I was using Muslim extremists as a example

Well don't because my comment had nothing to do with muslim extremists and neither does this thread

It's a comparison your saying the cop can say what he feels so is that the same for everyone

Its not a comparison of any sort therefore pointless me getting involved with whatever agenda you want to draw me into"

I want to draw you in to nothing I posted a topic you commented with your opinion I disagree with your thinking you disagree with mine call it a debate if you like

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So there are people on here who would be happy that if there child was (stupidly) waving an imitation weapon around, that they should be shot twelve times 'all in the line of duty'

Wasnt that a similar comment that Nazis used to hide behind?"

Are there? What people because I don't see any

What I do see is people possibly getting 2 very different but tragic events mixed up

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By *organ and rob zombieCouple over a year ago

bradford

"Their are clear rules where guns are concerned it was a child was his vision impaired

And just for talking sake, if it was real, and he'd shot someone else, he would have been crucified for not acting

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By *eavensent78 OP Couple over a year ago

west mids

"So there are people on here who would be happy that if there child was (stupidly) waving an imitation weapon around, that they should be shot twelve times 'all in the line of duty'

Wasnt that a similar comment that Nazis used to hide behind?"

This was another kid with the toy gun micheal brown was unarmed and shot 12 times

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It's not a racial thing a young child lost his life and the fact he feel like he is justified in his actions makes me sick basically getting away with murder everyday it happens in America to black white Mexican Indian and other folks they are turning into the military and it's coming to theses shores soon I'm kind of glad we do not arm our police but it will be happening soon.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So there are people on here who would be happy that if there child was (stupidly) waving an imitation weapon around, that they should be shot twelve times 'all in the line of duty'

Wasnt that a similar comment that Nazis used to hide behind?"

Wrong case...

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By *eavensent78 OP Couple over a year ago

west mids

"Their are clear rules where guns are concerned it was a child was his vision impaired

And just for talking sake, if it was real, and he'd shot someone else, he would have been crucified for not acting"

There is no place for ifs and buts in a debate lets just stick to facts

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Gotta love how people try and make absolutely ridiculous assumptions about how people think in here

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

In a country with do many guns, idiots & over enthusiastic law men I'm surprised it doesn't happen more often.

What is surprising is people who don't understand it will keep happening the way it is over there .

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By *histler21Man over a year ago

Ipswich

He definitely DOES have to justify his actions. On the TV. In court. Somewhere.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I wish people would actually know what they're discussing before making comments

Michael Brown was an 18 year old shot by a police officer in Ferguson

Tamir Rice was the 12 yesr old shot by a police officer in Cleveland

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By *om Tom 1969Man over a year ago

liverpool

Anyone reading this, just say out loud twelve times bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang, and imagine you had a gun pointed at an armed or unarmed person/child!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Watching the news just seen that Darren Wilson said he has a clear conscience after shooting Michael Brown is he trying to make things worse with comments like that ?

Good for him! at least he isn't acting like a pussy.

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By *anchestercubMan over a year ago

manchester & NI

I was never expecting justice for Michael Brown and I think many others thought the same.

Justice in the US is not colour blind, there are so many recent examples and statistical evidence of that.

It's really very sad when I can hear of an unarmed young man get gunned down and know that no one will be prosecuted as a matter of course.

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By *organ and rob zombieCouple over a year ago

bradford

My apologies

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Anyone reading this, just say out loud twelve times bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang, and imagine you had a gun pointed at an armed or unarmed person/child!"

You're forgetting to add that Brown had robbed a store a few moments prior, and that there was apparently a struggle between him and Wilson. It's not as clear cut as "man shoots other man". He was undoubtedly trigger happy, but it's sadly within his rights to shoot a dangerous person fleeing a crime. (Dangerous due to the previous struggle and robbery). I'm glad our police don't rely on guns.

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By *eavensent78 OP Couple over a year ago

west mids

To be a armed police officer I'm sure you have to go through some sort of gun training and to pass your shooting would have to be of high standards so to have to shoot 12 times there was only one thing on this cops mind

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By *anchestercubMan over a year ago

manchester & NI

I didn't know shoplifting was a capital offence.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Watching the news just seen that Darren Wilson said he has a clear conscience after shooting Michael Brown is he trying to make things worse with comments like that ?

Good for him! at least he isn't acting like a pussy.

It's not "acting like a pussy" to not kill people or to show remorse for the loss of a life. Jesus.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Anyone reading this, just say out loud twelve times bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang, and imagine you had a gun pointed at an armed or unarmed person/child!"

and ?

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By *eavensent78 OP Couple over a year ago

west mids

"Watching the news just seen that Darren Wilson said he has a clear conscience after shooting Michael Brown is he trying to make things worse with comments like that ?

Good for him! at least he isn't acting like a pussy.

Wow really

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Watching the news just seen that Darren Wilson said he has a clear conscience after shooting Michael Brown is he trying to make things worse with comments like that ?

Good for him! at least he isn't acting like a pussy.

It's not "acting like a pussy" to not kill people or to show remorse for the loss of a life. Jesus. "

He was doing his job, why should he feel guilty, because you think he should.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

my husband was in the army, he shot people, it was them or him, he didn't feel bad, that's life.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don't know what the authorities or he were thinking in going on national TV, whatever he said he was unlikely to make an already explosive situation any better."

The cynic in me thinks they knew exactly what they were thinking and the outcone you predict is exactly what they wanted

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By *vsnikkiTV/TS over a year ago

Limavady

"I was never expecting justice for Michael Brown and I think many others thought the same.

Justice in the US is not colour blind, there are so many recent examples and statistical evidence of that.

It's really very sad when I can hear of an unarmed young man get gunned down and know that no one will be prosecuted as a matter of course. "

In fairness to US justice (and I am no fan!), they may have a more complete picture of what actually happened than we do on Fab.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Watching the news just seen that Darren Wilson said he has a clear conscience after shooting Michael Brown is he trying to make things worse with comments like that ?

Good for him! at least he isn't acting like a pussy.

It's not "acting like a pussy" to not kill people or to show remorse for the loss of a life. Jesus.

He was doing his job, why should he feel guilty, because you think he should."

Never said he should feel guilty - I'm saying he's not a "pussy" if he did. It's your language and sentiment I have an issue with, yet again. I've already said he was within his rights according to the law. Ethically, however, he wasn't.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If the cop has a clear conscience then that his perogative.

The rest of the world knows that shooting an unarmed person 12 times is pretty much murder.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Anyone reading this, just say out loud twelve times bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang, and imagine you had a gun pointed at an armed or unarmed person/child!

Deserves to be shot for robbing a store and a struggle with a police officer hmmmm not so sure about that..... Pepper spray in the face would have done the job, 12 bullets abit extreme

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"my husband was in the army, he shot people, it was them or him, he didn't feel bad, that's life."

I don't think a soldier deployed in combat is directly comparable to the police shooting an unarmed civilian multiple times

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By *eavensent78 OP Couple over a year ago

west mids

"my husband was in the army, he shot people, it was them or him, he didn't feel bad, that's life."

The difference being in the army both sides would be armed

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"my husband was in the army, he shot people, it was them or him, he didn't feel bad, that's life."

What a strange person lol think someone needs to get back in bed and get out the right side

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By *eavensent78 OP Couple over a year ago

west mids

"my husband was in the army, he shot people, it was them or him, he didn't feel bad, that's life.

I don't think a soldier deployed in combat is directly comparable to the police shooting an unarmed civilian multiple times"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"my husband was in the army, he shot people, it was them or him, he didn't feel bad, that's life.

I don't think a soldier deployed in combat is directly comparable to the police shooting an unarmed civilian multiple times"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"my husband was in the army, he shot people, it was them or him, he didn't feel bad, that's life.

I don't think a soldier deployed in combat is directly comparable to the police shooting an unarmed civilian multiple times"

he didn't know he was unarmed though.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Anyone reading this, just say out loud twelve times bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang, and imagine you had a gun pointed at an armed or unarmed person/child!

Deserves to be shot for robbing a store and a struggle with a police officer hmmmm not so sure about that..... Pepper spray in the face would have done the job, 12 bullets abit extreme

Never said he deserved it, but legally it's okay in America due to their fleeing felon rule. Wilson was able to argue that Brown posed a serious threat.

I think it's archaic that the police are allowed guns.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"my husband was in the army, he shot people, it was them or him, he didn't feel bad, that's life.

What a strange person lol think someone needs to get back in bed and get out the right side

Strange, because you don't like my opinions, yes of course, that makes sense.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"my husband was in the army, he shot people, it was them or him, he didn't feel bad, that's life.

What a strange person lol think someone needs to get back in bed and get out the right side

Strange, because you don't like my opinions, yes of course, that makes sense."

Strange because your opinion is out of context and bears no relation to the discussion.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"my husband was in the army, he shot people, it was them or him, he didn't feel bad, that's life.

What a strange person lol think someone needs to get back in bed and get out the right side

Strange, because you don't like my opinions, yes of course, that makes sense.

Strange because your opinion is out of context and bears no relation to the discussion. "

Well I guess you must be right.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

There's shooting someone and then there's just plain psycho issues. As a trained professional you get taught as a stopping kill, two to the chest one to the head. Shooting someone twelve times is absolutely shocking. Unless you have a machine gun and th rate of fire is high. Therefore he clearly had some mental issues for him to almost empty a clip on someone. Disgraceful and unprofessional

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"my husband was in the army, he shot people, it was them or him, he didn't feel bad, that's life.

What a strange person lol think someone needs to get back in bed and get out the right side

Strange, because you don't like my opinions, yes of course, that makes sense."

Strange because you comments are irrelevant what has the army got to do with a police officer shooting an unarmed man.... Zero

So yes very strange

Not to mention your 'at least he's not a pussy' comment! In my book shooting an unarmed 18yrd old well doesn't get much more pussy than that!!

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By *anchestercubMan over a year ago

manchester & NI

"my husband was in the army, he shot people, it was them or him, he didn't feel bad, that's life.

I don't think a soldier deployed in combat is directly comparable to the police shooting an unarmed civilian multiple times

he didn't know he was unarmed though."

They can't be sure anyone is unarmed - so why aren't all suspects shot 12 times?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"my husband was in the army, he shot people, it was them or him, he didn't feel bad, that's life.

What a strange person lol think someone needs to get back in bed and get out the right side

Strange, because you don't like my opinions, yes of course, that makes sense.

Strange because you comments are irrelevant what has the army got to do with a police officer shooting an unarmed man.... Zero

So yes very strange

Not to mention your 'at least he's not a pussy' comment! In my book shooting an unarmed 18yrd old well doesn't get much more pussy than that!! "

Try thinking about it. I say to my hubby did you feel bad about shooting people? I said at least the policeman wasn't being a pussy and feeling bad about it, because why should he? because you, think he should. Do you understand that.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"my husband was in the army, he shot people, it was them or him, he didn't feel bad, that's life.

I don't think a soldier deployed in combat is directly comparable to the police shooting an unarmed civilian multiple times

he didn't know he was unarmed though.

They can't be sure anyone is unarmed - so why aren't all suspects shot 12 times? "

Because they havnt got what looks like a real gun.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"my husband was in the army, he shot people, it was them or him, he didn't feel bad, that's life.

What a strange person lol think someone needs to get back in bed and get out the right side

Strange, because you don't like my opinions, yes of course, that makes sense.

Strange because you comments are irrelevant what has the army got to do with a police officer shooting an unarmed man.... Zero

So yes very strange

Not to mention your 'at least he's not a pussy' comment! In my book shooting an unarmed 18yrd old well doesn't get much more pussy than that!!

There's many other ways to articulate what you think without saying what you've said.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"my husband was in the army, he shot people, it was them or him, he didn't feel bad, that's life.

What a strange person lol think someone needs to get back in bed and get out the right side

Strange, because you don't like my opinions, yes of course, that makes sense.

Strange because you comments are irrelevant what has the army got to do with a police officer shooting an unarmed man.... Zero

So yes very strange

Not to mention your 'at least he's not a pussy' comment! In my book shooting an unarmed 18yrd old well doesn't get much more pussy than that!!

There's many other ways to articulate what you think without saying what you've said. "

Yes, And?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"my husband was in the army, he shot people, it was them or him, he didn't feel bad, that's life.

What a strange person lol think someone needs to get back in bed and get out the right side

Strange, because you don't like my opinions, yes of course, that makes sense.

Strange because you comments are irrelevant what has the army got to do with a police officer shooting an unarmed man.... Zero

So yes very strange

Not to mention your 'at least he's not a pussy' comment! In my book shooting an unarmed 18yrd old well doesn't get much more pussy than that!!

Well your 'hubby' was in the army so if he killed an unarmed civilian then yes he should feel bad about it! But regardless if he did or not that's not what the thread is about.....

America is on tender hooks over this subject ready to kick off at any moment so the thread is about why would he come out in public and say that now you Tell me what don't YOU understand about that

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"my husband was in the army, he shot people, it was them or him, he didn't feel bad, that's life.

I don't think a soldier deployed in combat is directly comparable to the police shooting an unarmed civilian multiple times"

Dead right. Also worth noting that police ammunition is actually far more deadly than military ammunition. Another reason why 12 rounds should be considered unreasonable even if the suspect was armed, which he wasn't.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"my husband was in the army, he shot people, it was them or him, he didn't feel bad, that's life.

What a strange person lol think someone needs to get back in bed and get out the right side

Strange, because you don't like my opinions, yes of course, that makes sense.

Strange because you comments are irrelevant what has the army got to do with a police officer shooting an unarmed man.... Zero

So yes very strange

Not to mention your 'at least he's not a pussy' comment! In my book shooting an unarmed 18yrd old well doesn't get much more pussy than that!!

There's many other ways to articulate what you think without saying what you've said.

Yes, And?"

Well, that's the issue. Perhaps you should take it on board as it detracts from your point. No one will ever listen to you or take what you have to say on board if your points are diluted by inflammatory statements.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Can't believe he said that what a cunt

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By *anchestercubMan over a year ago

manchester & NI

"my husband was in the army, he shot people, it was them or him, he didn't feel bad, that's life.

I don't think a soldier deployed in combat is directly comparable to the police shooting an unarmed civilian multiple times

he didn't know he was unarmed though.

They can't be sure anyone is unarmed - so why aren't all suspects shot 12 times?

Because they havnt got what looks like a real gun.

Michael Brown didn't have anything that resembled a gun, he was totally unarmed.

What part of unarmed is unclear?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"my husband was in the army, he shot people, it was them or him, he didn't feel bad, that's life.

What a strange person lol think someone needs to get back in bed and get out the right side

Strange, because you don't like my opinions, yes of course, that makes sense.

Strange because you comments are irrelevant what has the army got to do with a police officer shooting an unarmed man.... Zero

So yes very strange

Not to mention your 'at least he's not a pussy' comment! In my book shooting an unarmed 18yrd old well doesn't get much more pussy than that!!

Well your 'hubby' was in the army so if he killed an unarmed civilian then yes he should feel bad about it! But regardless if he did or not that's not what the thread is about.....

America is on tender hooks over this subject ready to kick off at any moment so the thread is about why would he come out in public and say that now you Tell me what don't YOU understand about that

Because, he was doing his job, maybe?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"my husband was in the army, he shot people, it was them or him, he didn't feel bad, that's life.

I don't think a soldier deployed in combat is directly comparable to the police shooting an unarmed civilian multiple times

he didn't know he was unarmed though.

They can't be sure anyone is unarmed - so why aren't all suspects shot 12 times?

Because they havnt got what looks like a real gun.

Michael Brown didn't have anything that resembled a gun, he was totally unarmed.

What part of unarmed is unclear? "

Clearly she has no idea what anyone in here is talking about anyway

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By *anchestercubMan over a year ago

manchester & NI

"my husband was in the army, he shot people, it was them or him, he didn't feel bad, that's life.

I don't think a soldier deployed in combat is directly comparable to the police shooting an unarmed civilian multiple times

he didn't know he was unarmed though.

They can't be sure anyone is unarmed - so why aren't all suspects shot 12 times?

Because they havnt got what looks like a real gun.

Michael Brown didn't have anything that resembled a gun, he was totally unarmed.

What part of unarmed is unclear?

Clearly she has no idea what anyone in here is talking about anyway "

I'm not imagining it am I? He had no gun, no imitation gun... nothing that resembled a gun?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"my husband was in the army, he shot people, it was them or him, he didn't feel bad, that's life.

What a strange person lol think someone needs to get back in bed and get out the right side

Strange, because you don't like my opinions, yes of course, that makes sense.

Strange because you comments are irrelevant what has the army got to do with a police officer shooting an unarmed man.... Zero

So yes very strange

Not to mention your 'at least he's not a pussy' comment! In my book shooting an unarmed 18yrd old well doesn't get much more pussy than that!!

There's many other ways to articulate what you think without saying what you've said.

Yes, And?

Well, that's entirely up to them isn't it. Nobody has to like or agree with what I say.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"my husband was in the army, he shot people, it was them or him, he didn't feel bad, that's life.

I don't think a soldier deployed in combat is directly comparable to the police shooting an unarmed civilian multiple times

he didn't know he was unarmed though.

They can't be sure anyone is unarmed - so why aren't all suspects shot 12 times?

Because they havnt got what looks like a real gun.

Michael Brown didn't have anything that resembled a gun, he was totally unarmed.

What part of unarmed is unclear?

Clearly she has no idea what anyone in here is talking about anyway

I'm not imagining it am I? He had no gun, no imitation gun... nothing that resembled a gun?"

The case were talking about the guy had no weapons whatsoever, not even a handkerchief.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"my husband was in the army, he shot people, it was them or him, he didn't feel bad, that's life.

What a strange person lol think someone needs to get back in bed and get out the right side

Strange, because you don't like my opinions, yes of course, that makes sense.

Strange because you comments are irrelevant what has the army got to do with a police officer shooting an unarmed man.... Zero

So yes very strange

Not to mention your 'at least he's not a pussy' comment! In my book shooting an unarmed 18yrd old well doesn't get much more pussy than that!!

Well your 'hubby' was in the army so if he killed an unarmed civilian then yes he should feel bad about it! But regardless if he did or not that's not what the thread is about.....

America is on tender hooks over this subject ready to kick off at any moment so the thread is about why would he come out in public and say that now you Tell me what don't YOU understand about that

Because, he was doing his job, maybe?

Ok so again for you incase U missed it the first time and second..... This thread the one we are in now is 'did he really say that' so again it's about him coming out publicly and pretty much lighting the touch paper to start a riot is that doing his JOB then?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"my husband was in the army, he shot people, it was them or him, he didn't feel bad, that's life.

I don't think a soldier deployed in combat is directly comparable to the police shooting an unarmed civilian multiple times

he didn't know he was unarmed though.

They can't be sure anyone is unarmed - so why aren't all suspects shot 12 times?

Because they havnt got what looks like a real gun.

Michael Brown didn't have anything that resembled a gun, he was totally unarmed.

What part of unarmed is unclear?

Clearly she has no idea what anyone in here is talking about anyway "

Yes I do, I just don't happen to agree with you and a few others.

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By *abioMan over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

there are many different layers to the michael brown story...

one of the is "white cop shoots unarmed black teenager"

the 2nd is the incompatence of the local police/state police/ and there total mishandling of this....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"my husband was in the army, he shot people, it was them or him, he didn't feel bad, that's life.

I don't think a soldier deployed in combat is directly comparable to the police shooting an unarmed civilian multiple times

he didn't know he was unarmed though.

They can't be sure anyone is unarmed - so why aren't all suspects shot 12 times?

Because they havnt got what looks like a real gun.

Michael Brown didn't have anything that resembled a gun, he was totally unarmed.

What part of unarmed is unclear?

Clearly she has no idea what anyone in here is talking about anyway

I'm not imagining it am I? He had no gun, no imitation gun... nothing that resembled a gun?"

No gun, Brown tried to grab Wilson's and assaulted Wilson. Don't know where she got the idea that he had an imitation gun, unless she's confusing the cases.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

waw!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

so why was he shot if he was unarmed? what are the facts of the case?

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By *abioMan over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"my husband was in the army, he shot people, it was them or him, he didn't feel bad, that's life.

I don't think a soldier deployed in combat is directly comparable to the police shooting an unarmed civilian multiple times

he didn't know he was unarmed though.

They can't be sure anyone is unarmed - so why aren't all suspects shot 12 times?

Because they havnt got what looks like a real gun.

Michael Brown didn't have anything that resembled a gun, he was totally unarmed.

What part of unarmed is unclear?

Clearly she has no idea what anyone in here is talking about anyway

I'm not imagining it am I? He had no gun, no imitation gun... nothing that resembled a gun?

No gun, Brown tried to grab Wilson's and assaulted Wilson. Don't know where she got the idea that he had an imitation gun, unless she's confusing the cases. "

two different cases... the case of the 12 yr old in cleveland was waving around a toy gun in a kids playground... didn't look anything like the real thing apparently...

and in the michael brown case.. the policeman said brown was coming towards him... although there were eyewitness's who said brown was actually running away from them

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"so why was he shot if he was unarmed? what are the facts of the case?"

Wilson identified them as the robbers, tried to stop them, a fight ensued and then Wilson shot to apprehend.

"Wilson thought he had no choice but to draw his weapon, because Brown was "incredibly strong". He was unable to use pepper spray due to the close quarters, and his baton was out of reach. Brown grabbed Wilson's pistol while punching him repeatedly in the face."

Wilson gave chase, repeatedly shooting. 7 of the 12 bullets hit Brown.

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By *razedcatMan over a year ago

London / Herts

The reality is, being a police officer puts a pressure on you that is unique to the profession. Many claim the shooting was unlawful, but realistically, none of us know what we'd do in the same situation.

My concern arises from the fact that 12 shots were fired. That smacks of excess.

And if you ask me, the resulting unrest across the u.s is about something deeper than just one guy getting shot. This is general resentment of the police, the majority tired of their perceived oppressed status in society. And so much more than police policy and one dead guy come into that discussion.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It's not a racial thing a young child lost his life and the fact he feel like he is justified in his actions makes me sick basically getting away with murder everyday it happens in America to black white Mexican Indian and other folks they are turning into the military and it's coming to theses shores soon I'm kind of glad we do not arm our police but it will be happening soon."
a kid died because of a crazy gun culture in America that policeman could see he was a child surely you back off in a situation like that ,ok protect people in the area in case it is a real threat but don't kill a child for holding a toy gun ,put that same story in this country a kid is brandishing a gun do our cops go and kill him no ,that's what puts it into perspective ,the boy is dead ,the cops justifying what he did ,no that is just self preservation " I did not have sexual relations with that woman " just coz you say something and are well respected doesn't make it right

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By *dam_TinaCouple over a year ago

Hampshire

Wasnt that a similar comment that Nazis used to hide behind?"

Lols......you lose

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

i guess its mostly assumptions unless you were directly involved

i wouldnt wanna be a cop

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By *abioMan over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

it was interesting watching the press conference of the prosecutor and basically go out and discredit the victim.... it was almost like he was working for the defence... and to be honest the way he used the grand jury was like a suedo trial in itself...

people are asking lots of questions... the main one is "why not just go to trial"...

I think by announcing it at 9pm local time and giving people a good 6 hrs notice they were doing this, you could see they were almost trying to hide the decision behind the violence and uproar that was coming.....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

He was attacking the police officer, it was self defence.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"so why was he shot if he was unarmed? what are the facts of the case?

Wilson identified them as the robbers, tried to stop them, a fight ensued and then Wilson shot to apprehend.

Wilson gave chase, repeatedly shooting. 7 of the 12 bullets hit Brown. "

Which to me sounds like the red mist descended and Wilson wanted vengeance

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple over a year ago

Derbyshire

Officer was cleared by a mixed jury who heard hours of evidence, from dozens of witnesses.

Some intersting facts on Ch4 news last night, including the fact that the vast majority of gun-crime in the US is black men killing other black men, which no-one in either the black community or wider community seems to give a shit about.

Mr ddc

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"He was attacking the police officer, it was self defence."

Yep perfectly justified then..... Next time anyone squares upto me in the boozer I'm pulling out my gun

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It's not a racial thing a young child lost his life and the fact he feel like he is justified in his actions makes me sick basically getting away with murder everyday it happens in America to black white Mexican Indian and other folks they are turning into the military and it's coming to theses shores soon I'm kind of glad we do not arm our police but it will be happening soon.a kid died because of a crazy gun culture in America that policeman could see he was a child surely you back off in a situation like that ,ok protect people in the area in case it is a real threat but don't kill a child for holding a toy gun ,put that same story in this country a kid is brandishing a gun do our cops go and kill him no ,that's what puts it into perspective ,the boy is dead ,the cops justifying what he did ,no that is just self preservation " I did not have sexual relations with that woman " just coz you say something and are well respected doesn't make it right "

You're commenting on a totally different case!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Officer was cleared by a mixed jury who heard hours of evidence, from dozens of witnesses.

Mr ddc"

Good post!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"He was attacking the police officer, it was self defence.

Yep perfectly justified then..... Next time anyone squares upto me in the boozer I'm pulling out my gun

Oh you are funny.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"He was attacking the police officer, it was self defence."

2 bullets is self defence. 12 bullets is overkill and displays intent to kill.

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By *dventuroususCouple over a year ago

sunderland

"It's not a racial thing a young child lost his life and the fact he feel like he is justified in his actions makes me sick basically getting away with murder everyday it happens in America to black white Mexican Indian and other folks they are turning into the military and it's coming to theses shores soon I'm kind of glad we do not arm our police but it will be happening soon.a kid died because of a crazy gun culture in America that policeman could see he was a child surely you back off in a situation like that ,ok protect people in the area in case it is a real threat but don't kill a child for holding a toy gun ,put that same story in this country a kid is brandishing a gun do our cops go and kill him no ,that's what puts it into perspective ,the boy is dead ,the cops justifying what he did ,no that is just self preservation " I did not have sexual relations with that woman " just coz you say something and are well respected doesn't make it right "

have you read the thread, there was no gun.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"He was attacking the police officer, it was self defence.

Yep perfectly justified then..... Next time anyone squares upto me in the boozer I'm pulling out my gun

Oh you are funny.

Can't argue with stupid as the saying goes

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By *anchestercubMan over a year ago

manchester & NI

"Officer was cleared by a mixed jury who heard hours of evidence, from dozens of witnesses.

Mr ddc"

What does that have to do with anything? No one gives a shit about white on white or latino on latino gun crime either.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Officer was cleared by a mixed jury who heard hours of evidence, from dozens of witnesses.

Mr ddc

What does that have to do with anything? No one gives a shit about white on white or latino on latino gun crime either. "

It has nothing at all to do with the thread but you can't debate with these ppl cause they just go off track and turn it into there own argument

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By *anchestercubMan over a year ago

manchester & NI

It had nothing to do with self defence. Mike Brown was running away when he was shot. The officer's life was not in imminent danger.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

1 shot can kill and cops are told to aim for the middle which increases the chance of a fatal shot even more

but saying that the cop prolly was in a heightened state of whatever if he discharged 12 shots at the guy

he was getting shit kicked out of him and having his gun grabbed at beforehand if im reading this right

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Guns and the gun culture of America cost lives and many are innocent lives

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It had nothing to do with self defence. Mike Brown was running away when he was shot. The officer's life was not in imminent danger. "

Were you there? Have you told the relevant people this information? They need to know!

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By *anchestercubMan over a year ago

manchester & NI

he was getting shit kicked out of him and having his gun grabbed at beforehand if im reading this right"

The officer was in a car, he wasn't getting kicked. He got out of the car to chase Michael Brown.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"it was interesting watching the press conference of the prosecutor and basically go out and discredit the victim.... it was almost like he was working for the defence... and to be honest the way he used the grand jury was like a suedo trial in itself...

people are asking lots of questions... the main one is "why not just go to trial"...

Sadly I think you are right. I alluded to the same earlier with the timing of this latest announcement particularly when you consider tgat while last night's demonstrations were more widespread they were also generally peaceful. Yet this will inevitably stir up more anger.

But it's undeniable that civil unrest can be manipulated to create a very effective smoke screen.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It had nothing to do with self defence. Mike Brown was running away when he was shot. The officer's life was not in imminent danger.

Were you there? Have you told the relevant people this information? They need to know!"

Lol it's FACT unless now your going to say the news is telling porkies and that never came out in the court

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Pop along and read what the Courts have published. They tend to deal in facts as know. Seems a different picture of 'with issues' people are portraying. Always Sad when someone dies that didn't need to die...but, easily prevented.

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple over a year ago

Derbyshire

What does that have to do with anything? No one gives a shit about white on white or latino on latino gun crime either. "

Sorry, you missed my point, a white man killing a black man is deemed serious injustice, regardless of the facts, but the other crimes are just accepted by the community. Where are the riots against the drug-dealers, the armed robbers, the muggers, why is it always the police? Where are the community leaders working with the police to combat the problems in their communities?

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By *anchestercubMan over a year ago

manchester & NI

"It had nothing to do with self defence. Mike Brown was running away when he was shot. The officer's life was not in imminent danger.

Were you there? Have you told the relevant people this information? They need to know!"

The eye witnesses and video footage are already known. The step by step account has been widely reported as a result.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-30189966... Hope I can post a link to the BBC story... should satisfy the DM haters

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It had nothing to do with self defence. Mike Brown was running away when he was shot. The officer's life was not in imminent danger.

Were you there? Have you told the relevant people this information? They need to know!

Lol it's FACT unless now your going to say the news is telling porkies and that never came out in the court "

All I know is a grand jury who listend to 70 hrs of evidence from 60 witnesses and decided that that there was no need to prosecute know more about what happened than any of us

Some people that have made comments in this thread don't even know what incident they're talking about but have jumped on some sort of bandwagon anyway

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

What does that have to do with anything? No one gives a shit about white on white or latino on latino gun crime either.

'Their' communities says it all really.... The bottoms line is a policeman shot an unarmed man regardless of colour regardless wether blk on blk gun crime is rife in America he had NO gun he fired 12 rounds..... How is that justice wtf is wrong with ppl something tells me if that was your son U'd have a whole different view!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It had nothing to do with self defence. Mike Brown was running away when he was shot. The officer's life was not in imminent danger.

Were you there? Have you told the relevant people this information? They need to know!

The eye witnesses and video footage are already known. The step by step account has been widely reported as a result. "

But were you there?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If thats how he feels then he should be able to say that

Shooting an unarmed person 12 times really

Like I say,if thats how he feels then he should be able to say that

Some people are just "button pushers"!...some just love to keep up with the "holier than thou" appearance....note I used the word appearance....because I am not deceived... Ugly and vulgar people.

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By *iblackMan over a year ago

Leeds

He's a cunt.

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By *anchestercubMan over a year ago

manchester & NI

"It had nothing to do with self defence. Mike Brown was running away when he was shot. The officer's life was not in imminent danger.

Were you there? Have you told the relevant people this information? They need to know!

The eye witnesses and video footage are already known. The step by step account has been widely reported as a result.

But were you there?"

No, and I don't need to have been.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If thats how he feels then he should be able to say that

Shooting an unarmed person 12 times really

Like I say,if thats how he feels then he should be able to say that

Some people are just "button pushers"!...some just love to keep up with the "holier than thou" appearance....note I used the word appearance....because I am not deceived... Ugly and vulgar people."

Who exactly is your comment directed at?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

This is the USA, not UK, a inherently racist country. Just look at the prison population...

Really End of any arguments.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It had nothing to do with self defence. Mike Brown was running away when he was shot. The officer's life was not in imminent danger.

Were you there? Have you told the relevant people this information? They need to know!

The eye witnesses and video footage are already known. The step by step account has been widely reported as a result.

But were you there?"

So as you keep saying 'but we're you there' were you in the courtroom how you know the witnesses are credible witnesses were you there when they round the witnesses up? We're u there? Pretty petty respone but was u there almost childish

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If thats how he feels then he should be able to say that

Shooting an unarmed person 12 times really

Like I say,if thats how he feels then he should be able to say that

Some people are just "button pushers"!...some just love to keep up with the "holier than thou" appearance....note I used the word appearance....because I am not deceived... Ugly and vulgar people.

Who exactly is your comment directed at?"

To anyone who recognises this as applying to themselves, so if you were wondering if it were about you, then perhaps it applies...therefore it could be you.

Take it as you like.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Heavensent78 hornets nest of a thread xxxx

and very sexy butt

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple over a year ago

Derbyshire

In that state a police officer is permitted to shoot at a person fleeing from arrest. Self-defence doesn't come into it.

The jury of 9 white and 3 black people agreed he had no case to answer, yet still you say I am being unreasonable and trying to twist the facts.

My son? somehow I doubt he will ever be shot by a policeman of any colour. Is that because he is white, or is it because he has been brought up not to attact an armed policeman?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It had nothing to do with self defence. Mike Brown was running away when he was shot. The officer's life was not in imminent danger.

Were you there? Have you told the relevant people this information? They need to know!

The eye witnesses and video footage are already known. The step by step account has been widely reported as a result.

But were you there?

I disagree with you,people are acting like a grand jury themselves and I find that childish too

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

What does that have to do with anything? No one gives a shit about white on white or latino on latino gun crime either.

Good post

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It had nothing to do with self defence. Mike Brown was running away when he was shot. The officer's life was not in imminent danger.

Were you there? Have you told the relevant people this information? They need to know!

The eye witnesses and video footage are already known. The step by step account has been widely reported as a result.

But were you there?

I disagree with you,people are acting like a grand jury themselves and I find that childish too"

Then perhaps you need to take a break and have a coffee. You know full well that your retorts will result in comments from others. Button Pusher

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It had nothing to do with self defence. Mike Brown was running away when he was shot. The officer's life was not in imminent danger.

Were you there? Have you told the relevant people this information? They need to know!

The eye witnesses and video footage are already known. The step by step account has been widely reported as a result.

But were you there?

I disagree with you,people are acting like a grand jury themselves and I find that childish too"

No people are stating FACTS that have come out after court.....pretty simple so the public has a right to there own opinions on wether it was right or wrong regardless of what the jurors thought

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If thats how he feels then he should be able to say that

Shooting an unarmed person 12 times really

Like I say,if thats how he feels then he should be able to say that

Some people are just "button pushers"!...some just love to keep up with the "holier than thou" appearance....note I used the word appearance....because I am not deceived... Ugly and vulgar people.

Who exactly is your comment directed at?

To anyone who recognises this as applying to themselves, so if you were wondering if it were about you, then perhaps it applies...therefore it could be you.

Take it as you like."

I don't recognise that as me but wanted clarification so I could respond correctly

Thanks

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

What does that have to do with anything? No one gives a shit about white on white or latino on latino gun crime either.

Good post

You think any post on here with something to do with race or black and white is a good comment lol

This thread has NOTHING to do with race!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It had nothing to do with self defence. Mike Brown was running away when he was shot. The officer's life was not in imminent danger.

Were you there? Have you told the relevant people this information? They need to know!

The eye witnesses and video footage are already known. The step by step account has been widely reported as a result.

But were you there?

I disagree with you,people are acting like a grand jury themselves and I find that childish too

Then perhaps you need to take a break and have a coffee. You know full well that your retorts will result in comments from others. Button Pusher

Ill do what I like thank you

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"In that state a police officer is permitted to shoot at a person fleeing from arrest. Self-defence doesn't come into it.

The jury of 9 white and 3 black people agreed he had no case to answer, yet still you say I am being unreasonable and trying to twist the facts.

My son? somehow I doubt he will ever be shot by a policeman of any colour. Is that because he is white, or is it because he has been brought up not to attact an armed policeman?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

None of us will ever really know what happened here. The different groups (police, protesters, politicians and press) will all put their own slant on the situation and seek to address their own agenda.

What I do know for a fact is that America is one mixed up country that needs to take a good, long, hard look at itself

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

i can see how it could be deemed unjustified and justified by both sides

1 side says he was unarmed and fleeing so why shoot him

the other saying he was attacking the cop and then tried to flee afterwards and got a clip emptied at him

wouldnt wanna be a cop

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By *anchestercubMan over a year ago

manchester & NI

The jury of 9 white and 3 black people agreed he had no case to answer, yet still you say I am being unreasonable and trying to twist the facts.

The grand jury verdict relied on the evidence presented by the prosecutor.

There were serious, but ignored, concerns that the prosecutor was biased in favour of the police department, from previous experience.

The community and local politicians called for an independent prosecutor to be used but that didn't happen.

So until we know how much of the available evidence was presented we don't know how 'fair' the verdict has been.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It had nothing to do with self defence. Mike Brown was running away when he was shot. The officer's life was not in imminent danger.

Were you there? Have you told the relevant people this information? They need to know!

The eye witnesses and video footage are already known. The step by step account has been widely reported as a result.

But were you there?

I disagree with you,people are acting like a grand jury themselves and I find that childish too

Then perhaps you need to take a break and have a coffee. You know full well that your retorts will result in comments from others. Button Pusher

Ill do what I like thank you"

Then appreciate and respect that others will do and say what they wish, this forum is not owned by you, nor it this a place for people to ask your permission to have a view and, luckily, we are not all the same as you and nor do we feel the same.

Thanks in advance for the block, like telling a snake it will never walk again. Enjoy.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It had nothing to do with self defence. Mike Brown was running away when he was shot. The officer's life was not in imminent danger.

Were you there? Have you told the relevant people this information? They need to know!

The eye witnesses and video footage are already known. The step by step account has been widely reported as a result.

But were you there?

I disagree with you,people are acting like a grand jury themselves and I find that childish too

Then perhaps you need to take a break and have a coffee. You know full well that your retorts will result in comments from others. Button Pusher

Ill do what I like thank you

Thanks in advance for the block, like telling a snake it will never walk again. Enjoy."

ok whoever you are

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By *inaTitzTV/TS over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

It's a bit messy.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It's a bit messy. "

You're not wrong

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"In that state a police officer is permitted to shoot at a person fleeing from arrest. Self-defence doesn't come into it.

The jury of 9 white and 3 black people agreed he had no case to answer, yet still you say I am being unreasonable and trying to twist the facts.

My son? somehow I doubt he will ever be shot by a policeman of any colour. Is that because he is white, or is it because he has been brought up not to attact an armed policeman?

And you know this to be a fact? Without sounding too rude but I'm sure the young boy from Leeds that went into his class room and stabbed a teacher was brought up correctly or am I missing the point? Just because your brought up right never rule these things out AND secondly are you assuming because he's a young blk American man he wasn't brought up not to assault a police officer?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It had nothing to do with self defence. Mike Brown was running away when he was shot. The officer's life was not in imminent danger.

Were you there? Have you told the relevant people this information? They need to know!

The eye witnesses and video footage are already known. The step by step account has been widely reported as a result.

But were you there?

I disagree with you,people are acting like a grand jury themselves and I find that childish too

Then perhaps you need to take a break and have a coffee. You know full well that your retorts will result in comments from others. Button Pusher

Ill do what I like thank you

Thanks in advance for the block, like telling a snake it will never walk again. Enjoy.

ok whoever you are"

Suppose that's the problem when you upset alot of people...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It had nothing to do with self defence. Mike Brown was running away when he was shot. The officer's life was not in imminent danger.

Were you there? Have you told the relevant people this information? They need to know!

The eye witnesses and video footage are already known. The step by step account has been widely reported as a result.

But were you there?

I disagree with you,people are acting like a grand jury themselves and I find that childish too

Then perhaps you need to take a break and have a coffee. You know full well that your retorts will result in comments from others. Button Pusher

Ill do what I like thank you

Thanks in advance for the block, like telling a snake it will never walk again. Enjoy.

ok whoever you are

Suppose that's the problem when you upset alot of people... "

Its not a problem to me

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"My son? somehow I doubt he will ever be shot by a policeman of any colour. Is that because he is white, or is it because he has been brought up not to attact an armed policeman?

Do you think Ian Tomlinsons parents thought tge same as you? Or Jean Charles de Menezes?

The police do kill innocent people.

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple over a year ago

Derbyshire

This thread has NOTHING to do with race! "

Really? Race played no part in any of this? Is it just an anti-police thread then?

Sorry, my bad.

In that case: I like the police, they generally do a very hard job far better than I could, and I hope they don't shoot me next time I do 32 in a 30 zone (though I doubt they will

)

Is that opinion acceptable?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

why are people trying to bait the race angle on this after claiming it has nothing to do with it lol

this is the problem with people in general these days. they get shit twisted

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

This thread has NOTHING to do with race!

Really? Race played no part in any of this? Is it just an anti-police thread then?

Sorry, my bad.

In that case: I like the police, they generally do a very hard job far better than I could, and I hope they don't shoot me next time I do 32 in a 30 zone (though I doubt they will

)

Is that opinion acceptable?

No it hasn't the thread started as 'did he really say that' so basically is he that stupid to come out in public knowing it could start riots.... Sooooo Nope nothing to do with race and nothing to do with disliking the police

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

and if you attack an armed cop you should expect to get blown away tbh

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By *abioMan over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

the purpose of a grand jury isn't too adminsister guilt or innocence, as they dont hear any defense arguements at all.... it is to determine if there is enough evidence for it to go to trial

now... if the prosecutors present over 60 hours of evidence.... would that suugest there is enough?

the interesting thing is this case, is that this is the first time i can remember, where the prosecuter has a press conference and then rips everything about the witness's and the victim's case, thus making it almost impossible for his decision to be reversed....

and the person who said it was a mixed grand jury....

the population in the county in question is 90% black........ the grand jury was made up of 9 white people and 3 black people..... they have refused to disclose the number of the result....

now if it was lets say 12-0 in favour of every decision.... don't you think that would have made that known?

no murder charge, no manslaughter charge.... no nothing!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"and if you attack an armed cop you should expect to get blown away tbh"

Yeah, its not rocket science is it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"and if you attack an armed cop you should expect to get blown away tbh

Yeah, its not rocket science is it.

Aaaaaaaand again for the ones who have not looked into this case I.e you two he was fleeing when he was shot how hard is that to grasp?! Lol

And no I wasn't there but these are facts heard by the court

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"and if you attack an armed cop you should expect to get blown away tbh

Yeah, its not rocket science is it.

Aaaaaaaand again for the ones who have not looked into this case I.e you two he was fleeing when he was shot how hard is that to grasp?! Lol

And no I wasn't there but these are facts heard by the court

he was fleeing after he`d fcuk the officer up. it was the only time he could draw his weapon

far as i know he didnt draw and fire before the assault

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By *its_n_piecesCouple over a year ago

"the purpose of a grand jury isn't too adminsister guilt or innocence, as they dont hear any defense arguements at all.... it is to determine if there is enough evidence for it to go to trial

now... if the prosecutors present over 60 hours of evidence.... would that suugest there is enough?

and the person who said it was a mixed grand jury....

the population in the county in question is 90% black........ the grand jury was made up of 9 white people and 3 black people..... they have refused to disclose the number of the result....

now if it was lets say 12-0 in favour of every decision.... don't you think that would have made that known?

no murder charge, no manslaughter charge.... no nothing!"

it's of little surprise really when the post of Distrct Attorney and Chief of Police are both political offices in america ..... that is to say that they are not independently appointed positions but posts that are usually filled by career politicians who are endorsed by the elected mayor. the nature of the case meant that effectively the state itself could find itself on trial and so the state saw the need to defend itself ... otherwise these politicians could find their careers comming to an abrupt end

one of the troubling elements is prosecutor Robert P. McCullough's relationship with Ferguson police department and St. Louis County police department. His Father, Mother, Brother and his Uncle all work for the Police. His father was allegedly killed responding to a call in the community of Ferguson Missouri.

it would seem fair to say that he was hardly in a position to carry out the role of public prosecuter in an objective way.

the state senator,amongst many others called for an independent prosecutor to conduct proceedings, the senator is quoted as saying, " This racially charged climate demands an independent investigation, and to be perfectly blunt, the African-American community has no confidence that your office can carry out an impartial investigation and prosecution.”

She cited several reasons for this lack of confidence, including McCullochs’ failure to bring charges against police officers accused of killing two men in 2000 – even in the face of the findings from an independent U.S. Attorney Office investigation that those officers had lied about their behavior and fired 20 shots into the unarmed victims’ vehicle."

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By *anchestercubMan over a year ago

manchester & NI

"and if you attack an armed cop you should expect to get blown away tbh

Yeah, its not rocket science is it.

Aaaaaaaand again for the ones who have not looked into this case I.e you two he was fleeing when he was shot how hard is that to grasp?! Lol

And no I wasn't there but these are facts heard by the court

he was fleeing after he`d fcuk the officer up. it was the only time he could draw his weapon

far as i know he didnt draw and fire before the assault "

One eye witness says Michael Brown didn't punch the officer. But there was evidence of bruising to his face that may have been caused by a punch.

I don't know what the definition of 'fucking up' is.

Michael Brown was shot in the arm by the officer from within the car. Then ran away, that's when the officer got out of the car and shot at him.

That officer must have been really mad, it wouldn't be a surprise if he was seeing red and thirsty for revenge.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"and if you attack an armed cop you should expect to get blown away tbh

Yeah, its not rocket science is it.

Aaaaaaaand again for the ones who have not looked into this case I.e you two he was fleeing when he was shot how hard is that to grasp?! Lol

And no I wasn't there but these are facts heard by the court

he was fleeing after he`d fcuk the officer up. it was the only time he could draw his weapon

far as i know he didnt draw and fire before the assault "

but that's as far as you know like u said and that's wrong because that's not what happened he did fire as the assault was happening and again when he was fleeing

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"and if you attack an armed cop you should expect to get blown away tbh

Yeah, its not rocket science is it.

Aaaaaaaand again for the ones who have not looked into this case I.e you two he was fleeing when he was shot how hard is that to grasp?! Lol

And no I wasn't there but these are facts heard by the court

he was fleeing after he`d fcuk the officer up. it was the only time he could draw his weapon

far as i know he didnt draw and fire before the assault

but that's as far as you know like u said and that's wrong because that's not what happened he did fire as the assault was happening and again when he was fleeing "

Oh and as far as 'fcuk the officer up' he had a red mark on his cheek wouldn't even call it a bruise

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"and if you attack an armed cop you should expect to get blown away tbh

Yeah, its not rocket science is it.

Aaaaaaaand again for the ones who have not looked into this case I.e you two he was fleeing when he was shot how hard is that to grasp?! Lol

And no I wasn't there but these are facts heard by the court

he was fleeing after he`d fcuk the officer up. it was the only time he could draw his weapon

far as i know he didnt draw and fire before the assault

but that's as far as you know like u said and that's wrong because that's not what happened he did fire as the assault was happening and again when he was fleeing "

yeh and isnt it justified when an assault is happening. Its the same in security, you cant use any excessive force until your being lamped basically lol

And why didnt he have a load of bullets in his back if he was fleeing when he got shot

Ive read the report just now. The officer attempted to get out of the vehicle, brown prevented this and started punching him through the open window, was also going for his gun, cop shoots and hits him in the hand/arm, brown flees, cop pursues, brown turns and rushes the cop while the cops telling him to stop and cop unloads a clip in him

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"and if you attack an armed cop you should expect to get blown away tbh

Yeah, its not rocket science is it.

Aaaaaaaand again for the ones who have not looked into this case I.e you two he was fleeing when he was shot how hard is that to grasp?! Lol

And no I wasn't there but these are facts heard by the court

he was fleeing after he`d fcuk the officer up. it was the only time he could draw his weapon

far as i know he didnt draw and fire before the assault

but that's as far as you know like u said and that's wrong because that's not what happened he did fire as the assault was happening and again when he was fleeing

yeh and isnt it justified when an assault is happening. Its the same in security, you cant use any excessive force until your being lamped basically lol

And why didnt he have a load of bullets in his back if he was fleeing when he got shot

Good post.

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By *anchestercubMan over a year ago

manchester & NI

Several eyewitnesses have said that Brown didn't rush towards Wilson.

He had already been shot before moving towards Wilson which one eye witness said was him surrendering.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Several eyewitnesses have said that Brown didn't rush towards Wilson.

He had already been shot before moving towards Wilson which one eye witness said was him surrendering."

Maybe they were lying.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Several eyewitnesses have said that Brown didn't rush towards Wilson.

He had already been shot before moving towards Wilson which one eye witness said was him surrendering."

several eye witnesses out of how many eye witnesses and how many different accounts

which one you believe is up to you

see what am saying?

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By *eavensent78 OP Couple over a year ago

west mids

What was the officers intentions while shooting the gun ?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"and if you attack an armed cop you should expect to get blown away tbh

Yeah, its not rocket science is it.

Aaaaaaaand again for the ones who have not looked into this case I.e you two he was fleeing when he was shot how hard is that to grasp?! Lol

And no I wasn't there but these are facts heard by the court

he was fleeing after he`d fcuk the officer up. it was the only time he could draw his weapon

far as i know he didnt draw and fire before the assault

but that's as far as you know like u said and that's wrong because that's not what happened he did fire as the assault was happening and again when he was fleeing

yeh and isnt it justified when an assault is happening. Its the same in security, you cant use any excessive force until your being lamped basically lol

And why didnt he have a load of bullets in his back if he was fleeing when he got shot

There were a number of eye witnesses who said he stopped and turned with his hands in the air I knw who I believe

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By *anchestercubMan over a year ago

manchester & NI

"Several eyewitnesses have said that Brown didn't rush towards Wilson.

He had already been shot before moving towards Wilson which one eye witness said was him surrendering.

several eye witnesses out of how many eye witnesses and how many different accounts

which one you believe is up to you

see what am saying?

Half of the eyewitnesses, those called to give evidence at the grand jury corroborated Wilson's side of the story. The prosecutor called the other witnesses liars and cast doubt on them at the press conference after the verdict was known. Highlighting how many thought he was biased from the start.

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By *abioMan over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"the purpose of a grand jury isn't too adminsister guilt or innocence, as they dont hear any defense arguements at all.... it is to determine if there is enough evidence for it to go to trial

now... if the prosecutors present over 60 hours of evidence.... would that suugest there is enough?

and the person who said it was a mixed grand jury....

the population in the county in question is 90% black........ the grand jury was made up of 9 white people and 3 black people..... they have refused to disclose the number of the result....

now if it was lets say 12-0 in favour of every decision.... don't you think that would have made that known?

no murder charge, no manslaughter charge.... no nothing!

it would seem fair to say that he was hardly in a position to carry out the role of public prosecuter in an objective way.

glad someone actually knows a lot about this case....

which is why they wanted the DOJ to look into it..... and in the case like the Treyvon martin case, wanted the federal government to take over the case from the state...

but that needs state's approval.....

the problem is that the government could turn it into a federal case... but because there burden of proof is much higher than the legal case at state level... the DA has basically crushed that option by what he said in the press conference....

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple over a year ago

Derbyshire

You're right Fabio, there are many elements about this case that don't seem to add up in the cold light of day, including why the guy was initially stopped, the resulting conversation and scuffle, and whether or not it should have ended in the way it did, whether the investigation should have been independent, and whether the officer could have been advised not to make any statements which might further inflame the situation.

As always I believe neither side, but suspect the truth lies somewhere in the middle. However it is equally sad that some will use it to incite riots, and others will use those riots to further reinforce their prejudices.

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