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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

were working class and proud of it

but it seems most people on here are professional so come on own up who else on here is working class

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I am a carpenter but _iew myself as upper class

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By *ire_bladeMan  over a year ago

Manchester

Most definitely and damn proud of it

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Not sure what the difference is - I work for a living, but that fact that I do my work at a desk wearing a shirt and tie doesn't make me better than someone who does theirs in a factory, or on a building site, or in a school, or anywhere else...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I work for a living - ergo I am working class - simples!! I do sound a teensy bit posh though - I blame my mum!! xx

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I work for a living - ergo I am working class - simples!! I do sound a teensy bit posh though - I blame my mum!! xx"

fine by me, I love a posh bird lol xx

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

One is frikkin royalty here!

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By *dventuroususCouple  over a year ago

sunderland

There are alot of people say they are professional but arent in truth, they dont actually understand what it means to actually be professional.

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By *rightonsteveMan  over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

I have to work so working class. Although I have a family coat of arms and such....very minor though.

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By *inaTitzTV/TS  over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

I used to be working class, but my butler tells me I'm now chav class.

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By *evaquitCouple  over a year ago

Catthorpe

Working class come professionals. We're proud of it too.

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By *erotic_adventureMan  over a year ago

London, Scotland & The North,


"were working class and proud of it

but it seems most people on here are professional so come on own up who else on here is working class

"

working class......There was me thinking this country had moved on. Working class is that anyone who works?

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By *B9 QueenWoman  over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"were working class and proud of it

but it seems most people on here are professional so come on own up who else on here is working class

"

I'm working class and also a professional.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'm working class

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I really am not sure about "class" differences anymore. Even when great gulfs in wealth are taken account, isn't it all down to attitude? Isn't it all a bit old fashioned now?

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By *dventuroususCouple  over a year ago

sunderland

I tend to ask anyone that messages us stating they are professional why they have that on there profile, a few have genuinely been professionals but many arent and once explained they agree but still dont take it off.

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By *uckbunnyWoman  over a year ago

mmmm guess u like to know

Im working class I work for NHS

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By *couser83Man  over a year ago

Liverpool


"I have to work so working class. Although I have a family coat of arms and such....very minor though. "

Same here!

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By *all-Eddies QosCouple  over a year ago

wirral

Professional usually equates to snobbery on here (imho)

I'm a housewife....I wiill work when I find something that suits......

Never thought of myself as anything other than normal working class....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I dislike the way the words amateur and professional are misused.

Amateur tends to be used as a term to describe someone who is either a novice or not very goid at sonething rather than the correct meaning which is simply that what it is they are doing us a hobby or unpaid i.e. Not their profession.

The word professional comes from the word profession.

Here's an example. The late, great Sir Patrick Moore was an amateur astronomer, but was a professional TV presenter. Now nobody would consider him to be unskilled at observing the stars - in fact NASA even consulted him on their Apollo program.

So you can be workibg class, middle class or even an upper class professional.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

the funniest thing I ever saw on a profile was "if you don't know what professional means, don't contact us"

so I didn't!

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By *dventuroususCouple  over a year ago

sunderland


"I dislike the way the words amateur and professional are misused.

Amateur tends to be used as a term to describe someone who is either a novice or not very goid at sonething rather than the correct meaning which is simply that what it is they are doing us a hobby or unpaid i.e. Not their profession.

The word professional comes from the word profession.

Here's an example. The late, great Sir Patrick Moore was an amateur astronomer, but was a professional TV presenter. Now nobody would consider him to be unskilled at observing the stars - in fact NASA even consulted him on their Apollo program.

So you can be workibg class, middle class or even an upper class professional."

my god lol, in this case just about anyone is a professional, nope an example of a professional is a doctor, a surgeon, or a teacher.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

My partner and I tend to describe ourselves as 'professional' and 'creative' when discussing our careers.

He works in London in tech and would be considered a professional in anything but the tightest definition (i.e. one that only accounts for Doctors, Lawyers, etc). He is a professional rather than a blue-collar, administrative or pink-collar worker.

I on the other hand am a creative, or a creative professional. I am a journalist who specialises in writing about art, and also a photographer.

It's just a label that people apply to themselves depending on their job. It's got nothing to do with class. You could be a working class professional quiet easily, since it often takes more than a generation to genuinely move social classes.

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By *SweetVioletxWoman  over a year ago

Liverpool

Does it really matter? It's 2014.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I don't get what they mean by professional to me its just a word to make people feel better and superior to everyone else its just media labeling

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By *iewMan  over a year ago
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Angus & Findhorn

I am a professional, I don't class myself better than others... but I conduct myself better than some

I have fucked up a few times but on the whole, the above is true

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By *aitMan  over a year ago

Plymouth

You've all got it wrong! Have a look at uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/British_class_system.

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By *imply_SensualMan  over a year ago

warrington

I am that far up the class system, you are not worthy of my answer

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By *exine xCouple  over a year ago

Leicester

As long as people are decent human beings who gives a fuck what class they are?

We have worked hard for the nice things we have but certainly wouldn't think we are above anybody.

Anyway. We have to go as the Roast Swan is nearly cooked in our Quadruple oven

Xx

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"were working class and proud of it

but it seems most people on here are professional so come on own up who else on here is working class

"

You can still be working class and professional.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I think I might be more concerned about peoples profession/jobs if I were on findmeaspouse.com rather than fab swingers! I couldn't care less what someone does for a living as long as they can hold a decent conversation and pay half if we go on a social! xx

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Professions have a self regulating body, involve individual post grad training and a requirement to be a member of the regulating body. That's what I mean when I use professional but by no means does it describe my upbringing, my politics or where I see myself in what should be a classless society.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Not really arsed what anyones' job or profession is.

Same goes for their class standing, or their perception of it.

Both are irrelevant to us.

As long as we find someone physically attractive, they communicate well and they stick to plans made, all is good.

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By *lactontogMan  over a year ago

Clacton on Sea


"were working class and proud of it

but it seems most people on here are professional so come on own up who else on here is working class

You can still be working class and professional."

Yes this is very true...we are all the same, no different and no better.

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By *B9 QueenWoman  over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"Professional usually equates to snobbery on here (imho)

I'm a housewife....I wiill work when I find something that suits......

Never thought of myself as anything other than normal working class...."

I'm far from being a snob. But I have no problem saying that I'm a professional when asked. If it makes people feel uncomfortable, I won't hide it to make them feel better.

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By *B9 QueenWoman  over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"Professions have a self regulating body, involve individual post grad training and a requirement to be a member of the regulating body. That's what I mean when I use professional but by no means does it describe my upbringing, my politics or where I see myself in what should be a classless society.

"

This describes myself.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"were working class and proud of it

but it seems most people on here are professional so come on own up who else on here is working class

"

We are working class and common as muck and very proud of it

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The one thing I would say - it's a good signifier that you might have more in common with some people.

For instance, myself. I value the ability to hold a conversation and talk passionately and in depth about an intellectual subject. Honestly, that kind of thing really turns me on about a person. So I'm more likely - statistically - to have things in common with someone who has achieved higher education of various kinds and has gone into a professional career. It's less likely I'd achieve that same level of connection with someone who is a manual worker, who is pink-collar, administrative etc.

However that's not saying that I'd *only* be interested in professionals, but that statistically they're more likely to float my boat. So putting it on their profile means I'm more likely to strike up a conversation to see what they do.

It's just sexual preference, that's all. Everyone is allowed sexual preference.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'm not from a working class background but I don't give a fuck either.

I could take it or leave it quite honestly, I left home young. Lived on my own for almost 10 years.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"were working class and proud of it

but it seems most people on here are professional so come on own up who else on here is working class

"

Baby, I come from a shithole in North London, so working class it's painful, but I've worked my nuts off to be somebody because I want my son to have a nice life, not walk around _aiting to be shot etc, so I'm kinda pretend middle class now, cause when I'm too old, which aint yet, I can't watch my boys back. I actually reached the epitome of my profession which is fucking hilarious if you knew me, I've advised some fairly major political players.... if only they knew eh

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

If we work then surely that's working class we are both just that and yes do own our own business and are busy lives but doesn't make us any better than others

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By *lack Shoe Red SoulCouple  over a year ago

North Hampshire


"Not sure what the difference is - I work for a living, but that fact that I do my work at a desk wearing a shirt and tie doesn't make me better than someone who does theirs in a factory, or on a building site, or in a school, or anywhere else... "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"were working class and proud of it

but it seems most people on here are professional so come on own up who else on here is working class

Baby, I come from a shithole in North London, so working class it's painful, but I've worked my nuts off to be somebody because I want my son to have a nice life, not walk around _aiting to be shot etc, so I'm kinda pretend middle class now, cause when I'm too old, which aint yet, I can't watch my boys back. I actually reached the epitome of my profession which is fucking hilarious if you knew me, I've advised some fairly major political players.... if only they knew eh "

Lol and looking at the state of our politics we know how that turned out!

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By *lactontogMan  over a year ago

Clacton on Sea


"If we work then surely that's working class we are both just that and yes do own our own business and are busy lives but doesn't make us any better than others "

This is me & Kim, we are self employed in our own business, we travel all over the world but wouldn't class ourselves into a category.

I come from West Ham & Kim from Basildon so you couldn't get anymore common if you try, one day we are at a Ministers dinner party and the next at a friends for a curry and a pint...both as enjoyable.

You label yourself in life to fit in and be in a gang/group which is sad because in this day and age most people are the same, with some etiquette and a bit of spit and polish you can fit in anywhere.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Apparently we're technical Middle class

Google British class system and take the bbc test

Class systems are outdated and pointless

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Technical middle class

This is a small, distinctive and prosperous new class group. According to the Great British Class Survey results, lots of people in this group:

Mix socially with people similar to themselves

Work in research, science and technical fields

Enjoy emerging culture such as going to the gym and using social media

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

People who label themselves as professionals often lack imagination and have a desire to classify everyone they see - after all what the heck does it matter when you've got no clothes on? Im no policeman, but I've got a truncheon, Im no nurse, but it you like I have something long that'll make you feel better etc. etc.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Im the richest man in the world but live a double life.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Google British class system and take the bbc test

"

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By *dventuroususCouple  over a year ago

sunderland


"Professions have a self regulating body, involve individual post grad training and a requirement to be a member of the regulating body. That's what I mean when I use professional but by no means does it describe my upbringing, my politics or where I see myself in what should be a classless society.

"

this hits it spot on, been a professional has nothing to do with whatever class you wish to label people.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

please do not get us wrong on this its just an observation that a lot of people seem to state on here that they are professional

it makes not one bit of difference once we are all naked and getting down and dirty we are all the same

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By *entaur_UKMan  over a year ago

Cannock

I work in the building trade and drive a white van for work and i also have an England flag i hang out my window when the world cup is on or the euro championships, so yes i'm working class.....i guess that means the Labour party does'nt like me after what Emily Thornberry tweeted last week.

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By *B9 QueenWoman  over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"People who label themselves as professionals often lack imagination and have a desire to classify everyone they see - after all what the heck does it matter when you've got no clothes on? Im no policeman, but I've got a truncheon, Im no nurse, but it you like I have something long that'll make you feel better etc. etc. "

I must be unimaginative then but I feel no desire to label anyone.

And isn't stating that professed professionals have no imagination actually falling into the category of labelling someone?

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By *entaur_UKMan  over a year ago

Cannock

A also used to own and drive a Ford Capri so i could've been in the professionals.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Professions have a self regulating body, involve individual post grad training and a requirement to be a member of the regulating body. That's what I mean when I use professional but by no means does it describe my upbringing, my politics or where I see myself in what should be a classless society.

this hits it spot on, been a professional has nothing to do with whatever class you wish to label people."

We are both professionals but are very much working class.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Don't think it really matters what people call themselves, I wouldn't take offence. If they have a job they're working class and if they call themselves professional so what ? They're just trying to make an impression ? That's good...least they care what others think.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Whenever I see the word 'professional' on here I always get that tune running through my head.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

to my mind if you are working and getting paid that makes you a professional

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By *dventuroususCouple  over a year ago

sunderland

That makes you employed.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Well i got told the other day i was a benefits scrounger as i no longer work. I gave up a well paid factory job to care for my disabled mum nearly 5years ago.

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By *lligator3Man  over a year ago

Dundee


"were working class and proud of it

but it seems most people on here are professional so come on own up who else on here is working class

"

'Own up' suggests you think people might be reluctant to admit it without prompting- unsure why?

...just be proud of who you are and don't compare yourself to others

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'm a professional working class person. I come from working class stock and have a professional qualification... there is a difference between being professional and thinking you are upper class....

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By *B9 QueenWoman  over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"I'm a professional working class person. I come from working class stock and have a professional qualification... there is a difference between being professional and thinking you are upper class...."

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm a professional working class person. I come from working class stock and have a professional qualification... there is a difference between being professional and thinking you are upper class...."

OK Rupert!

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By *lligator3Man  over a year ago

Dundee

Fyi I buy hovis and throw away the heels....Middle class exuberance!

Oh and its dairylea on it NOT cheap laughing cow!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"were working class and proud of it

but it seems most people on here are professional so come on own up who else on here is working class

Baby, I come from a shithole in North London, so working class it's painful, but I've worked my nuts off to be somebody because I want my son to have a nice life, not walk around _aiting to be shot etc, so I'm kinda pretend middle class now, cause when I'm too old, which aint yet, I can't watch my boys back. I actually reached the epitome of my profession which is fucking hilarious if you knew me, I've advised some fairly major political players.... if only they knew eh

Lol and looking at the state of our politics we know how that turned out!

"

Hey, they didn't have to take the advice

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Fyi I buy hovis and throw away the heels....Middle class exuberance!

Oh and its dairylea on it NOT cheap laughing cow! "

dairylea how common nothing but philly here

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"the funniest thing I ever saw on a profile was "if you don't know what professional means, don't contact us"

so I didn't!"

Probably a professional nob head

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By *lligator3Man  over a year ago

Dundee


"Fyi I buy hovis and throw away the heels....Middle class exuberance!

Oh and its dairylea on it NOT cheap laughing cow!

dairylea how common nothing but philly here "

Yip I've been found out, a wanna be middle classer

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Professions have a self regulating body, involve individual post grad training and a requirement to be a member of the regulating body. That's what I mean when I use professional but by no means does it describe my upbringing, my politics or where I see myself in what should be a classless society.

this hits it spot on, been a professional has nothing to do with whatever class you wish to label people."

.

That's bollocks!.

Professionals require a remington shaver as a walkie talkie.

A manly chest rug.

And a fuck off smoking white Capri with stripes up the side.

And every professional knows it

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Besides who wants to be middle class, nobody ever writes great songs about them fuckers.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=njG7p6CSbCU

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

For full disclosure we are amateur swingers, some one else can pay the professionals

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By *tevelizCouple  over a year ago

northampton

i get made for the job i do. That makes me a professional. Class does not come into it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Professions have a self regulating body, involve individual post grad training and a requirement to be a member of the regulating body. That's what I mean when I use professional but by no means does it describe my upbringing, my politics or where I see myself in what should be a classless society.

"

Yep sums it up pretty well...

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By *emmefataleWoman  over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville


"were working class and proud of it

but it seems most people on here are professional so come on own up who else on here is working class

"

Isn't class a state of mind?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"were working class and proud of it

but it seems most people on here are professional so come on own up who else on here is working class

I'm working class and also a professional. "

Me too x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Dad was a shipworker on the Tyne, mam was a nurse. Grew up on a Tyneside counil estate.

Working class?

I went to St Andrews university, work in information security, have recently worked in Westminster with a government task force and have just come back from working in Brussels.

Working class?

I still live on a council estate. Class means bugger all to me.

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By *ee VianteWoman  over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

I'm in a class of my own.

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By *ce WingerMan  over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

I'm not Bodie and my friend will only play Doyle on special occasions allegedly

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By *lassyandadventurousMan  over a year ago

England and Wales

I was bottom of the class at school ....if i turned up that is.

I work my nuts off and im now a big success....top of the class lol

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By *dventuroususCouple  over a year ago

sunderland


"i get made for the job i do. That makes me a professional. Class does not come into it."

that makes you employed, the job is what makes it professional not a class, if you have had to study, train, qualify, through independant bodies, that makes you a professional, simply because you work doesnt, a surgeon is a professional, a line worker in a chicken factory isnt.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"were working class and proud of it

but it seems most people on here are professional so come on own up who else on here is working class

"

I'm just class.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

class has more to do with one's own perception of oneself rather than that of others. I personally hate the term class, I take people as I find them, from paupers to princes.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"were working class and proud of it

but it seems most people on here are professional so come on own up who else on here is working class

"

You can be a professional and working class-

One of our group of friends we've known since school is a Barrister, and other is high up in Management while one or two are time served tradesmen.

"A profession is a vocation founded upon specialized educational training, the purpose of which is to supply objective counsel and service to others, for a direct and definite compensation, wholly apart from expectation of other business gain."

Isnt that most of us who have a job?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


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Isnt that most of us who have a job?"

No. Most people do not have specialised educational training, and most people don't supply objective counsel and service to others.

I'm a journalist and a creative - I don't do those things.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Fyi I buy hovis and throw away the heels....Middle class exuberance!

Oh and its dairylea on it NOT cheap laughing cow! "

You throw away the best bit!!! It soaks up dripping like no one's business! You don't know your born...

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By *dventuroususCouple  over a year ago

sunderland


"were working class and proud of it

but it seems most people on here are professional so come on own up who else on here is working class

You can be a professional and working class-

One of our group of friends we've known since school is a Barrister, and other is high up in Management while one or two are time served tradesmen.

"A profession is a vocation founded upon specialized educational training, the purpose of which is to supply objective counsel and service to others, for a direct and definite compensation, wholly apart from expectation of other business gain."

Isnt that most of us who have a job?"

Theres a difference between having/choosing a profession and been a professional.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"were working class and proud of it

but it seems most people on here are professional so come on own up who else on here is working class

I'm just class. "

yep, first class, judging by your pics x

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By *ultry SuccubusTV/TS  over a year ago

London


"were working class and proud of it

but it seems most people on here are professional so come on own up who else on here is working class

You can be a professional and working class-

One of our group of friends we've known since school is a Barrister, and other is high up in Management while one or two are time served tradesmen.

"A profession is a vocation founded upon specialized educational training, the purpose of which is to supply objective counsel and service to others, for a direct and definite compensation, wholly apart from expectation of other business gain."

Isnt that most of us who have a job?"

..

But professional also means getting paid for the things you do ie professional athlete, compared to amateur.

Putting "professional' in a sex site, makes me wonder if they're hinting something else.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

For us being professional in approach, manners etc maybe not in the bedroom . The actual profession is not important as it's about people. We are all born equal.

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By *ain n MableWoman  over a year ago

Milton Keynes

I aspire to be working class, I'm lower than whales shit at the moment.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I had no idea there were so many people out there who strange issues with the word professional.

There seems a slight irony in the labelling of people who use the word as judgemental, thinking they're better than others etc.

Still, another fascinating insight into the minefield of profile writing, where literally every phrase used will upset and exclude a certain group of people for one reason or another.

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By *riendly FiresCouple  over a year ago

Beverley

Box standard here.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I had no idea there were so many people out there who strange issues with the word professional.

There seems a slight irony in the labelling of people who use the word as judgemental, thinking they're better than others etc.

Still, another fascinating insight into the minefield of profile writing, where literally every phrase used will upset and exclude a certain group of people for one reason or another. "

It is easy, look at profiles that look good then ctrl+c ctrl+v.

Believe me, people do it!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I always thought I was working class but when my daughter looked it up for a project we were upper middle class!!! I always thought that was for the gentry not just because of education and career status. I was embarrassed to tell the truth and told her to put working class.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Always prefer enthusiastic amateur to a jaded professional

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By *tevelizCouple  over a year ago

northampton

one deffinition from the Oxford English Dictionary. engaged in a spacified activity as one's main paid occupation. There are other which define the qualification example.

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By *dventuroususCouple  over a year ago

sunderland


"one deffinition from the Oxford English Dictionary. engaged in a spacified activity as one's main paid occupation. There are other which define the qualification example.

"

thats the definition of "profession".

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I don't consider myself a professional. I drive a large van for a living. Most of my friends are teachers or in the medical profession so I sometimes feel a bit inadequate when they are talking about work but I love driving for a living so it makes up for it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

i work - end of - dont care

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I know my place.......

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Working class here but professional hitman on my days off

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I know my place....... "

Where?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Morning all I am an upper class carpenter and proud

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Morning all I am an upper class carpenter and proud "

Does that mean you only work above ground floor ?

Professional is a strange term - I've never understood the need to put letters after your name. To me the proof is in the pudding - it's how they conduct themselves. That holds for me here and in the real world.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Acting in a professional manner, in my _iew, is what I would hope for, at all times, in all aspects of life.

Plenty of people who regard themselves as Working Class, by their job or trade, or their origins or social background - or political allegiances, can still act completely 'professionally'.

Being a 'member' of a Profession doesn't magickally confer Professional actions, unfortunately....

In case you are wondering - I am nominally Professional and do have a collection of letters after my name, including CEng. But I am politically centre to left wing, liberal thinking - and generally vote Labour. I work in Engineering, My parents were not Professional. So what am I...?? Just me...

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By *ndym12Man  over a year ago

Ivybridge

I'm professionally working class

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I am amused by the ones who describe themselves as "professionals" and at the same time seem incapable of proper spelling, punctuation or expression in what they write.

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By *eKoopleCouple  over a year ago

Germany / Manchester

In this modern world, money dictates and people presume a persons social standing. Having a professional career is nothing more than being paid for what we do and is often confused with the class of which we were born.

A child being sent to Eton doesn't always mean their from an elite linage but merely their parents can afford.

Let's not forget etiquette, there are a few on here striving to part of an elite group by attempting to flaunt they're professional but forget there are specific rules to be played in that elite world and are not practiced.

Maybe it's time we concentrate on being professional human beings first, and worry about the detail of class after. -Mr.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Morning all I am an upper class carpenter and proud

Does that mean you only work above ground floor ?

Professional is a strange term - I've never understood the need to put letters after your name. To me the proof is in the pudding - it's how they conduct themselves. That holds for me here and in the real world. "

yes beautiful I always take the lift to my higher echelons

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Maybe it's time we concentrate on being Professional Human Beings first, and worry about the detail of class after. -Mr."

Very succinct. Fully agree. This is Real Life.

At times, I do wonder if I am back in the School Playground - on the Internet generally.

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By *eMontresMan  over a year ago

Halesowen


"Professions have a self regulating body, involve individual post grad training and a requirement to be a member of the regulating body. That's what I mean when I use professional but by no means does it describe my upbringing, my politics or where I see myself in what should be a classless society.

"

This

It has nothing to do with class or wealth. In this sense it is being used as a noun.

It can also be used as an adjective, as in, a professional window cleaner/footballer/painter. In this sense it means that one pursues that profession as one's main source of income.

Many people confuse the two uses of the word, and often _iew its use in the first context as implying superiority or snobbery.

I've even seen people use the inverted snobbery of stating that they won't meet anyone who describes themselves as a professional.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Can"t be arsed to read the thread.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Yay me too..... I'm a stress analyst and perform Finite Element Analysis most days when saving the planet in my fantastic job

I'm a leftie though...and class neutral

I love the .. We are a 'professional couple' types on here.....

oh you are both prostitutes? Cool... Worts yer rates, we could rent you out

Oh, sorry, you meant 'snobs', sorry my mistake!

X

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Oops

Meant for fellow CEng dude bro above

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By *dventuroususCouple  over a year ago

sunderland


"I am amused by the ones who describe themselves as "professionals" and at the same time seem incapable of proper spelling, punctuation or expression in what they write."

what on earth has that got to do with anything, it is quite easy to be a proffesional and not be able to spell, for eg, wayne rooney is a professional footballer but has the intelligence of a pea, you are mistaking been a professional with class and/or intelligence they have nothing to do with each other.

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By *eMontresMan  over a year ago

Halesowen


"I am amused by the ones who describe themselves as "professionals" and at the same time seem incapable of proper spelling, punctuation or expression in what they write.

what on earth has that got to do with anything, it is quite easy to be a proffesional and not be able to spell, for eg, wayne rooney is a professional footballer but has the intelligence of a pea, you are mistaking been a professional with class and/or intelligence they have nothing to do with each other."

No they aren't. You're confusing its use as an adjective, with its use as a noun. Even if the the noun being described is missing, as in "he's a professional" (footballer), the noun footballer is implicit from the context, and thus the word "professional" is being used as an adjective. The posts above explain it clearly.

When used as a noun, it implies a level of education, which would at the very least, suggest they could use a spell checker

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

i suppose i am middle class now.... lol i've gone up in the world....

skinny latte's here i come!!!

I draw the line at edamame beans......

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By *dventuroususCouple  over a year ago

sunderland


"I am amused by the ones who describe themselves as "professionals" and at the same time seem incapable of proper spelling, punctuation or expression in what they write.

what on earth has that got to do with anything, it is quite easy to be a proffesional and not be able to spell, for eg, wayne rooney is a professional footballer but has the intelligence of a pea, you are mistaking been a professional with class and/or intelligence they have nothing to do with each other.

No they aren't. You're confusing its use as an adjective, with its use as a noun. Even if the the noun being described is missing, as in "he's a professional" (footballer), the noun footballer is implicit from the context, and thus the word "professional" is being used as an adjective. The posts above explain it clearly.

When used as a noun, it implies a level of education, which would at the very least, suggest they could use a spell checker"

when used on a profile they are referring to there job status not intelligence, or at least the many I have had conversation with are referring to that, please read the whole thread to understand where my posts are coming from, class/intelligence has nothing to do with been a proffesional, however it has a lot to do with been professional.

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By *eMontresMan  over a year ago

Halesowen


"I am amused by the ones who describe themselves as "professionals" and at the same time seem incapable of proper spelling, punctuation or expression in what they write.

what on earth has that got to do with anything, it is quite easy to be a proffesional and not be able to spell, for eg, wayne rooney is a professional footballer but has the intelligence of a pea, you are mistaking been a professional with class and/or intelligence they have nothing to do with each other.

No they aren't. You're confusing its use as an adjective, with its use as a noun. Even if the the noun being described is missing, as in "he's a professional" (footballer), the noun footballer is implicit from the context, and thus the word "professional" is being used as an adjective. The posts above explain it clearly.

When used as a noun, it implies a level of education, which would at the very least, suggest they could use a spell checker

when used on a profile they are referring to there job status not intelligence, or at least the many I have had conversation with are referring to that, please read the whole thread to understand where my posts are coming from, class/intelligence has nothing to do with been a proffesional, however it has a lot to do with been professional. "

I think you should read the posts properly and do some research into the meaning and usage of the word

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By *illyrocCouple  over a year ago

north west

There's a few professional bullshitters on this site too lol

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By *dventuroususCouple  over a year ago

sunderland


"I am amused by the ones who describe themselves as "professionals" and at the same time seem incapable of proper spelling, punctuation or expression in what they write.

what on earth has that got to do with anything, it is quite easy to be a proffesional and not be able to spell, for eg, wayne rooney is a professional footballer but has the intelligence of a pea, you are mistaking been a professional with class and/or intelligence they have nothing to do with each other.

No they aren't. You're confusing its use as an adjective, with its use as a noun. Even if the the noun being described is missing, as in "he's a professional" (footballer), the noun footballer is implicit from the context, and thus the word "professional" is being used as an adjective. The posts above explain it clearly.

When used as a noun, it implies a level of education, which would at the very least, suggest they could use a spell checker

when used on a profile they are referring to there job status not intelligence, or at least the many I have had conversation with are referring to that, please read the whole thread to understand where my posts are coming from, class/intelligence has nothing to do with been a proffesional, however it has a lot to do with been professional.

I think you should read the posts properly and do some research into the meaning and usage of the word"

I have read the posts from the beginning thank you, and I fully understand what the word means, you could just simply understand that its a fun forum on a swingers site, and people will have differing _iews on subjects, whether you like them or not it doesnt make your _iew any more valid or correct than someone elses, its not your way or no way.

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By *dventuroususCouple  over a year ago

sunderland


"There's a few professional bullshitters on this site too lol"

This unfortunately can be true.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Correct me if I'm wrong. I don't seem to grasp the point of this post. What difference does "class" have anything to do with anything the line is very blurred anyway and last I looked I didn't need to sleep in my class nor communicate only with a sector of the population.

I prefer chat with people who are different from me. More fun!

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By *dventuroususCouple  over a year ago

sunderland


"Correct me if I'm wrong. I don't seem to grasp the point of this post. What difference does "class" have anything to do with anything the line is very blurred anyway and last I looked I didn't need to sleep in my class nor communicate only with a sector of the population.

I prefer chat with people who are different from me. More fun!"

it doesnt thats the whole point.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Correct me if I'm wrong. I don't seem to grasp the point of this post. What difference does "class" have anything to do with anything the line is very blurred anyway and last I looked I didn't need to sleep in my class nor communicate only with a sector of the population.

I prefer chat with people who are different from me. More fun!

it doesnt thats the whole point."

Fair play hence me asking

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"were working class and proud of it

but it seems most people on here are professional so come on own up who else on here is working class

"

Read our profile ref: claiming to be professional puts us off

Working class and damn proud

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"were working class and proud of it

but it seems most people on here are professional so come on own up who else on here is working class

Read our profile ref: claiming to be professional puts us off

Working class and damn proud "

So how about a Professional Engineer....?? A member of a professional body, yet working in engineering...??

I don't think labels like Working Class or similar, really work, these days.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"were working class and proud of it

but it seems most people on here are professional so come on own up who else on here is working class

Read our profile ref: claiming to be professional puts us off

Working class and damn proud

So how about a Professional Engineer....?? A member of a professional body, yet working in engineering...??

I don't think labels like Working Class or similar, really work, these days."

What about them? Does there job effect who they are? No. The only reason for putting it on your profile is the snobbish belief that it makes you a better person. Its that snobbery that puts us off. Drop that claim to being a different class and we are more than happy to meet without expecting them to look down their nose at us

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By *riendly FiresCouple  over a year ago

Beverley

Well really. The difference between us and them, you and us is the odd grammatical error, spelling mistake, a few zeros on or off a bank balance, second home or the odd peerage or two. Our needs tend to be the same and regardless of, we all remain good people, all good, good people under this skin.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Professions have a self regulating body, involve individual post grad training and a requirement to be a member of the regulating body. That's what I mean when I use professional but by no means does it describe my upbringing, my politics or where I see myself in what should be a classless society.

"

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By *iewMan  over a year ago
Forum Mod

Angus & Findhorn

thank goodness for these types of threads, the thought of the different classes having sexual relations with each other scares the bejesus out of me....

smelling salts anyone ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"thank goodness for these types of threads, the thought of the different classes having sexual relations with each other scares the bejesus out of me....

smelling salts anyone ?"

Depends... are they from Harrods or the pound shop?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"were working class and proud of it

but it seems most people on here are professional so come on own up who else on here is working class

"

Dont really believe in class as thats just a way for people to think they are better than others. But if we had to be pigeon holed we are definately very working class

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By *iewMan  over a year ago
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Angus & Findhorn


"thank goodness for these types of threads, the thought of the different classes having sexual relations with each other scares the bejesus out of me....

smelling salts anyone ?

Depends... are they from Harrods or the pound shop?"

Galeries Lafayette, Paris, have you been in Harrods lately... good lord, they were selling laminated type shopping bags for the masses...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"thank goodness for these types of threads, the thought of the different classes having sexual relations with each other scares the bejesus out of me....

smelling salts anyone ?

Depends... are they from Harrods or the pound shop?

Galeries Lafayette, Paris, have you been in Harrods lately... good lord, they were selling laminated type shopping bags for the masses...

"

(shakes head in disgust)

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