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Hope so, but I suspect if we ever discover proof of astrobiology , it'll be microbial.. which is more likely as it's hard for life to take hold, even less likely for intelligent life, but the latter would sure be interesting! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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It is believed that we are the most intelligent species on the planet and yet when our pioneers found new Land or territories on earth they invariably stole it and claimed it's resources, why would aliens be any different? |
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"Would a genuine very public irrefutable alien landing be good for humankind or bad."
Initially very, very bad. In the long term, good. There are many plausible theories by noted scientists on why aliens would visit Earth - none of them are good for humanity, but you never know  |
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"It is believed that we are the most intelligent species on the planet and yet when our pioneers found new Land or territories on earth they invariably stole it and claimed it's resources, why would aliens be any different? "
Quite so. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Hope so, but I suspect if we ever discover proof of astrobiology , it'll be microbial.. which is more likely as it's hard for life to take hold, even less likely for intelligent life, but the latter would sure be interesting!"
We don't know if it's hard for life to take hold, the multi-verse is on the balance of probability teaming with intelligent life. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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I thought some might lighten the topic with quips about immigration, don't you realise that its likely such issues and concerns would quickly become a thing of the past? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Would a genuine very public irrefutable alien landing be good for humankind or bad.
Who knows would depend upon the alien and their behaviour is not predictable x"
Very true, but what do you think our reaction would be to each other? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Would a genuine very public irrefutable alien landing be good for humankind or bad.
Who knows would depend upon the alien and their behaviour is not predictable x
Very true, but what do you think our reaction would be to each other? "
man kind being what it is we would no doubt try to kill them they cut one up to see how it works
humans are not good at co existing |
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If they are going to visit I sincerely hope they wait a couple of thousand years when hopefully we will have realised the follies of war, extremism and other shitty traits we still have are pointless and that looking after this place we all live on is more important.. |
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"It is believed that we are the most intelligent species on the planet and yet when our pioneers found new Land or territories on earth they invariably stole it and claimed it's resources, why would aliens be any different? "
We are the most intelligent species on the planet unless you have proof to refute that statement. At some point in our past our ancestors will have been both victim and perpetrators of a landgrab. But we are still evolving and it may be that we never reach the star trek level of being truly altruistic  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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man kind being what it is we would no doubt try to kill them they cut one up to see how it works
humans are not good at co existing "
True, but having travelled across galaxies their technology would probably make ours look like the technology of a slug, surely it's very unlikely that we could be any threat to them. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It is believed that we are the most intelligent species on the planet and yet when our pioneers found new Land or territories on earth they invariably stole it and claimed it's resources, why would aliens be any different? "
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Because if there intelligent enough to find a way to cross the endless bounds of space.... I hardly think there'll be short of a bit of copper  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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We're probably all being watched by aliens in some form of wildlife documentary right now. Just like we use things like disguised rock-cams and dung-cams to get right up close to the animals, the aliens could well be using 'people-cams' disguised to look like our friends and loved ones, in order to get right up close and _iew our lives, the ultimate part of these disguises being that the person themselves doesn't know that they are actually a camera, and has artificially implanted memories to fool them into thinking they are who they think they are.
In fact, you could be a person-cam and not even know it! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"We're probably all being watched by aliens in some form of wildlife documentary right now. Just like we use things like disguised rock-cams and dung-cams to get right up close to the animals, the aliens could well be using 'people-cams' disguised to look like our friends and loved ones, in order to get right up close and _iew our lives, the ultimate part of these disguises being that the person themselves doesn't know that they are actually a camera, and has artificially implanted memories to fool them into thinking they are who they think they are.
In fact, you could be a person-cam and not even know it!"
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If i was looking for a list of possible candidates for planetary extinction.
1 humans
2 the yanks
3 computers! ...
Down here right at the bottom would be ET |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If i was looking for a list of possible candidates for planetary extinction.
1 humans
2 the yanks"
Interesting that you put them in 2 different categories  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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We are the most intelligent species on the planet unless you have proof to refute that statement. At some point in our past our ancestors will have been both victim and perpetrators of a landgrab. But we are still evolving and it may be that we never reach the star trek level of being truly altruistic "
I don't need proof to tell you I don't know something, it's the other way around, you're the one making a statement of 'fact', prove it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If i was looking for a list of possible candidates for planetary extinction.
1 humans
2 the yanks
Interesting that you put them in 2 different categories "
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It was intensional obviously I don't mean all yanks...
I just meant those crazy fuckers in the middle bit |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"If they are going to visit I sincerely hope they wait a couple of thousand years when hopefully we will have realised the follies of war, extremism and other shitty traits we still have are pointless and that looking after this place we all live on is more important.."
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If they are going to visit I sincerely hope they wait a couple of thousand years when hopefully we will have realised the follies of war, extremism and other shitty traits we still have are pointless and that looking after this place we all live on is more important.."
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Does anyone really think 'we'will be here in a thousand years time!.
Personally I think 20 is pushing it  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"We're probably all being watched by aliens in some form of wildlife documentary right now. Just like we use things like disguised rock-cams and dung-cams to get right up close to the animals, the aliens could well be using 'people-cams' disguised to look like our friends and loved ones, in order to get right up close and _iew our lives, the ultimate part of these disguises being that the person themselves doesn't know that they are actually a camera, and has artificially implanted memories to fool them into thinking they are who they think they are.
In fact, you could be a person-cam and not even know it!"
An interesting thought and as valid as any. |
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man kind being what it is we would no doubt try to kill them they cut one up to see how it works
humans are not good at co existing
True, but having travelled across galaxies their technology would probably make ours look like the technology of a slug, surely it's very unlikely that we could be any threat to them."
suppose that depends on the aliens, they could be a peaceful race who have no weapons of mass destruction as they have never had any need to kill or they could have the technology to blow us out the sky or the powers of mind control....who knows  |
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"Would be the first time its happened.
Just hope the Romans don't crucify the poor sod this time
Was that story real then "
Story!!!!!!!!!!
of course it was real, thought everyone knew Jesus was a spaceman
Chris DeBurgh wrote a song about it.
Probably the best Christmas song EVER |
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By *andS4funCouple
over a year ago
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Reptilians - we know people who believe in these. Google them.
I don't know about reptilians or 'aliens' for that matter. But we cannot be the only planet in the universe(s) that has or is able to sustain some kind of'life' It would be arrogant & maybe ignorant to assume we are. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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man kind being what it is we would no doubt try to kill them they cut one up to see how it works
humans are not good at co existing
True, but having travelled across galaxies their technology would probably make ours look like the technology of a slug, surely it's very unlikely that we could be any threat to them.
suppose that depends on the aliens, they could be a peaceful race who have no weapons of mass destruction as they have never had any need to kill or they could have the technology to blow us out the sky or the powers of mind control....who knows "
If they are peaceful then it means that they've been brilliant enough to discover a way to overcome their hostile tendencies, such beings of such sage wisdom would likely know not to get within striking distance of such a violent and unpredictable race as humans - at least, not without zapping Earth with the cerebral harmoniser first |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Would be the first time its happened.
Just hope the Romans don't crucify the poor sod this time
Was that story real then
Story!!!!!!!!!!
of course it was real, thought everyone knew Jesus was a spaceman
Chris DeBurgh wrote a song about it.
Probably the best Christmas song EVER"
carlsberg don't do xmas songs but.... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Reptilians - we know people who believe in these. Google them.
I don't know about reptilians or 'aliens' for that matter. But we cannot be the only planet in the universe(s) that has or is able to sustain some kind of'life' It would be arrogant & maybe ignorant to assume we are. "
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By mathematical calculation to roughly 25 billion, if I remember correctly |
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By (user no longer on site)
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We are the most intelligent species on the planet unless you have proof to refute that statement. At some point in our past our ancestors will have been both victim and perpetrators of a landgrab. But we are still evolving and it may be that we never reach the star trek level of being truly altruistic
I don't need proof to tell you I don't know something, it's the other way around, you're the one making a statement of 'fact', prove it. "
OK, given the exploration of the earth by humans and the discovery of fossils going back millions of years, we have not seen any evidence of a more intelligent species. I accept that 100% proof is difficult to show but we can be pretty close to 100% by now |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Reptilians - we know people who believe in these. Google them.
I don't know about reptilians or 'aliens' for that matter. But we cannot be the only planet in the universe(s) that has or is able to sustain some kind of'life' It would be arrogant & maybe ignorant to assume we are. "
Mathematically it is reckoned that it is certain there is life on other planets.
How advanced that life is, is another matter |
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By (user no longer on site)
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We are the most intelligent species on the planet unless you have proof to refute that statement. At some point in our past our ancestors will have been both victim and perpetrators of a landgrab. But we are still evolving and it may be that we never reach the star trek level of being truly altruistic
I don't need proof to tell you I don't know something, it's the other way around, you're the one making a statement of 'fact', prove it.
OK, given the exploration of the earth by humans and the discovery of fossils going back millions of years, we have not seen any evidence of a more intelligent species. I accept that 100% proof is difficult to show but we can be pretty close to 100% by now "
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You have to be careful how you word things on here.
Like saying very nearly every number contains the number 3 is OK as it's technically 99.999% and in science that's very nearly every number. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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We are the most intelligent species on the planet unless you have proof to refute that statement. At some point in our past our ancestors will have been both victim and perpetrators of a landgrab. But we are still evolving and it may be that we never reach the star trek level of being truly altruistic
I don't need proof to tell you I don't know something, it's the other way around, you're the one making a statement of 'fact', prove it.
OK, given the exploration of the earth by humans and the discovery of fossils going back millions of years, we have not seen any evidence of a more intelligent species. I accept that 100% proof is difficult to show but we can be pretty close to 100% by now .
You have to be careful how you word things on here.
Like saying very nearly every number contains the number 3 is OK as it's technically 99.999% and in science that's very nearly every number. "
Except it is unlikely that is true. One could hazard a guess and say 10% of all numbers contain the number 3 |
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By (user no longer on site)
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We are the most intelligent species on the planet unless you have proof to refute that statement. At some point in our past our ancestors will have been both victim and perpetrators of a landgrab. But we are still evolving and it may be that we never reach the star trek level of being truly altruistic
I don't need proof to tell you I don't know something, it's the other way around, you're the one making a statement of 'fact', prove it.
OK, given the exploration of the earth by humans and the discovery of fossils going back millions of years, we have not seen any evidence of a more intelligent species. I accept that 100% proof is difficult to show but we can be pretty close to 100% by now .
You have to be careful how you word things on here.
Like saying very nearly every number contains the number 3 is OK as it's technically 99.999% and in science that's very nearly every number.
Except it is unlikely that is true. One could hazard a guess and say 10% of all numbers contain the number 3 "
20% I reckon |
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It would be scary as fuck. If they have the technology for interstellar travel, which would involve warping the space time fabric, then we'd be little more than chimps to them.
We would be completely at their mercy and would have to hope they were benign in their intentions. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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We are the most intelligent species on the planet unless you have proof to refute that statement. At some point in our past our ancestors will have been both victim and perpetrators of a landgrab. But we are still evolving and it may be that we never reach the star trek level of being truly altruistic
I don't need proof to tell you I don't know something, it's the other way around, you're the one making a statement of 'fact', prove it.
OK, given the exploration of the earth by humans and the discovery of fossils going back millions of years, we have not seen any evidence of a more intelligent species. I accept that 100% proof is difficult to show but we can be pretty close to 100% by now .
You have to be careful how you word things on here.
Like saying very nearly every number contains the number 3 is OK as it's technically 99.999% and in science that's very nearly every number.
Except it is unlikely that is true. One could hazard a guess and say 10% of all numbers contain the number 3
20% I reckon "
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Lol no 99.8% of numbers contain the number 3 that's a mathematical fact. |
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It works like this 1 to 10 one number with 3 so its 10%
1 to 100 11 numbers contain the number 3 so it's 11%
1 to 1000... 271 numbers contain a three that's nearly 27%.
You keep going you get to 99.9% of numbers contain the number 3
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To be fair its not really any Aliens we need worry about ... Just humans with a bit of power, that are already living here with us!
Aliens could teach us? .. Ones here continue to make same mistakes time n time again....
Thats Life!
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"It works like this 1 to 10 one number with 3 so its 10%
1 to 100 11 numbers contain the number 3 so it's 11%
1 to 1000... 271 numbers contain a three that's nearly 27%.
You keep going you get to 99.9% of numbers contain the number 3
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Nice one |
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By (user no longer on site)
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We are the most intelligent species on the planet unless you have proof to refute that statement. At some point in our past our ancestors will have been both victim and perpetrators of a landgrab. But we are still evolving and it may be that we never reach the star trek level of being truly altruistic
I don't need proof to tell you I don't know something, it's the other way around, you're the one making a statement of 'fact', prove it.
OK, given the exploration of the earth by humans and the discovery of fossils going back millions of years, we have not seen any evidence of a more intelligent species. I accept that 100% proof is difficult to show but we can be pretty close to 100% by now "
Maybe they cleaned up after themselves better than we do? |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
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"If they are going to visit I sincerely hope they wait a couple of thousand years when hopefully we will have realised the follies of war, extremism and other shitty traits we still have are pointless and that looking after this place we all live on is more important...
Does anyone really think 'we'will be here in a thousand years time!.
Personally I think 20 is pushing it "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Depends on whether they shot to kill or the Americans did.. You reminded me of the 1980s song - "Star Trekkin"... haha"
Oh blimey I cant stop singing about Clingons now! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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I think if aliens landed it would be because they wanted something or they'd just observe us from afar, in that scenario it might not work out well for us.
If though we could give them what they want without conflict, I believe it would bring humankind closer together. Religion and race wouldn't be as divisive as they are now. |
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"I think if aliens landed it would be because they wanted something or they'd just observe us from afar, in that scenario it might not work out well for us.
If though we could give them what they want without conflict, I believe it would bring humankind closer together. Religion and race wouldn't be as divisive as they are now. "
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Why would a bunch of clearly superior aliens need anything from us.
That would be the equivalent of me going 3000 miles out of my way, to get something from ants or just to stamp on their nest!.
Pointless and futile |
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"It is believed that we are the most intelligent species on the planet and yet when our pioneers found new Land or territories on earth they invariably stole it and claimed it's resources, why would aliens be any different? "
That's rather interesting.
Isn't it widely accepted that all of mankind derives from and thus emigrated from Africa?
Incidentally, who did they steal the land from?
On the whole, genuine irrefutable aliens arriving here would be a bad thing.
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"It works like this 1 to 10 one number with 3 so its 10%
1 to 100 11 numbers contain the number 3 so it's 11%
1 to 1000... 271 numbers contain a three that's nearly 27%.
You keep going you get to 99.9% of numbers contain the number 3
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Don't want to be too pedantic but I make it 19 numbers contains 3 between 1 and 100 |
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"The basis of religions would be fucked, so it can inly be a good thing "
Indeed, as was proved by the totally non fictional, well researched and factually evidenced 'god was an astronaut' booj by the acclaimed scientist, explorer, racanteur and wit, Eric Von Daniken |
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We are the most intelligent species on the planet unless you have proof to refute that statement. At some point in our past our ancestors will have been both victim and perpetrators of a landgrab. But we are still evolving and it may be that we never reach the star trek level of being truly altruistic
I don't need proof to tell you I don't know something, it's the other way around, you're the one making a statement of 'fact', prove it.
OK, given the exploration of the earth by humans and the discovery of fossils going back millions of years, we have not seen any evidence of a more intelligent species. I accept that 100% proof is difficult to show but we can be pretty close to 100% by now .
You have to be careful how you word things on here.
Like saying very nearly every number contains the number 3 is OK as it's technically 99.999% and in science that's very nearly every number.
Except it is unlikely that is true. One could hazard a guess and say 10% of all numbers contain the number 3
20% I reckon .
Lol no 99.8% of numbers contain the number 3 that's a mathematical fact."
Funnily enough, some 99.99% of all numbers do contain the number 3.
3.14159 is a number.
10.1864832 is a number.
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"It works like this 1 to 10 one number with 3 so its 10%
1 to 100 11 numbers contain the number 3 so it's 11%
1 to 1000... 271 numbers contain a three that's nearly 27%.
You keep going you get to 99.9% of numbers contain the number 3
Don't want to be too pedantic but I make it 19 numbers contains 3 between 1 and 100"
3,13,23,30,33,43,53,63,73,83,93..
Which ones did I miss |
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We are the most intelligent species on the planet unless you have proof to refute that statement. At some point in our past our ancestors will have been both victim and perpetrators of a landgrab. But we are still evolving and it may be that we never reach the star trek level of being truly altruistic
I don't need proof to tell you I don't know something, it's the other way around, you're the one making a statement of 'fact', prove it.
OK, given the exploration of the earth by humans and the discovery of fossils going back millions of years, we have not seen any evidence of a more intelligent species. I accept that 100% proof is difficult to show but we can be pretty close to 100% by now .
You have to be careful how you word things on here.
Like saying very nearly every number contains the number 3 is OK as it's technically 99.999% and in science that's very nearly every number.
Except it is unlikely that is true. One could hazard a guess and say 10% of all numbers contain the number 3
20% I reckon .
Lol no 99.8% of numbers contain the number 3 that's a mathematical fact.
Funnily enough, some 99.99% of all numbers do contain the number 3.
3.14159 is a number.
10.1864832 is a number.
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True. But 99.9% of integers do too! I was hasty saying 20% as I was just thinking of up to 100. (There are 19, in fact. Doubled up on 33!). Similarly 99.9% of integers contain 1, 2, 4 .... 9. Weird, eh? |
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"It works like this 1 to 10 one number with 3 so its 10%
1 to 100 11 numbers contain the number 3 so it's 11%
1 to 1000... 271 numbers contain a three that's nearly 27%.
You keep going you get to 99.9% of numbers contain the number 3
Don't want to be too pedantic but I make it 19 numbers contains 3 between 1 and 100
3,13,23,30,33,43,53,63,73,83,93..
Which ones did I miss "
30, 31, 32 .... 39 |
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"It works like this 1 to 10 one number with 3 so its 10%
1 to 100 11 numbers contain the number 3 so it's 11%
1 to 1000... 271 numbers contain a three that's nearly 27%.
You keep going you get to 99.9% of numbers contain the number 3
Don't want to be too pedantic but I make it 19 numbers contains 3 between 1 and 100
3,13,23,30,33,43,53,63,73,83,93..
Which ones did I miss
30, 31, 32 .... 39"
Exactly |
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"It works like this 1 to 10 one number with 3 so its 10%
1 to 100 11 numbers contain the number 3 so it's 11%
1 to 1000... 271 numbers contain a three that's nearly 27%.
You keep going you get to 99.9% of numbers contain the number 3
Don't want to be too pedantic but I make it 19 numbers contains 3 between 1 and 100
3,13,23,30,33,43,53,63,73,83,93..
Which ones did I miss
30, 31, 32 .... 39
Exactly "
Oh, and |
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"It works like this 1 to 10 one number with 3 so its 10%
1 to 100 11 numbers contain the number 3 so it's 11%
1 to 1000... 271 numbers contain a three that's nearly 27%.
You keep going you get to 99.9% of numbers contain the number 3
Don't want to be too pedantic but I make it 19 numbers contains 3 between 1 and 100
3,13,23,30,33,43,53,63,73,83,93..
Which ones did I miss
30, 31, 32 .... 39
Exactly "
13 x 3 is exactly 39 |
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"It works like this 1 to 10 one number with 3 so its 10%
1 to 100 11 numbers contain the number 3 so it's 11%
1 to 1000... 271 numbers contain a three that's nearly 27%.
You keep going you get to 99.9% of numbers contain the number 3
Don't want to be too pedantic but I make it 19 numbers contains 3 between 1 and 100
3,13,23,30,33,43,53,63,73,83,93..
Which ones did I miss
30, 31, 32 .... 39
Exactly
13 x 3 is exactly 39"
Coincidentally 39 divided by 3 is 13... spooky eh |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ohhh numptyness.
It's always the bleedin obvious.
31,32,33,34,35 lol.
Numberphile on YouTube, always entertaining while bored"
Learn something new every day! Indeed, your maths figures have taken over the threads!
Of course, it is the idea of infinity that makes mathematicians say it is almost certain that there is intelligent life on (an)other planet(s).
Whether they would want to know us though, I doubt! Any form of life capable of travelling here would almost certainly steer clear of us, surely? |
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A quirky maths problem :
Which of these two arithmetic series to infinity contain the greatest amount of numbers, Is it
a) 2,4,6,8,10,12 .......
b) 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12 ..... |
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A quirky maths problem :
Which of these two arithmetic series to infinity contain the greatest amount of numbers, Is it
a) 2,4,6,8,10,12 .......
b) 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12 ....."
The same, I'm guessing |
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Why would a bunch of clearly superior aliens need anything from us.
That would be the equivalent of me going 3000 miles out of my way, to get something from ants or just to stamp on their nest!.
Pointless and futile"
Resources are finite. It's not about wanting something from us, it's about wanting something from Earth. It could be argued that the USA went more than 3000 miles to the less developed middle east to secure its oil supply.
When we as humankind devour the rainforests for its resources we don't always show too much concern about indigenous species living in the rainforests. You could say we are superior to them.
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Why would a bunch of clearly superior aliens need anything from us.
That would be the equivalent of me going 3000 miles out of my way, to get something from ants or just to stamp on their nest!.
Pointless and futile
Resources are finite. It's not about wanting something from us, it's about wanting something from Earth. It could be argued that the USA went more than 3000 miles to the less developed middle east to secure its oil supply.
When we as humankind devour the rainforests for its resources we don't always show too much concern about indigenous species living in the rainforests. You could say we are superior to them.
Pointless and futile? "
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Yeah but surely that's just because we're really a high primate, who haven't quite evolved enough.
So presuming these aliens come from our galaxy, were still taking anywhere between 50 to 30,000 lights years travel, so realistically there going to be bending space-time to get here!.
Now I'm no expert and this is just a hunch but, I reckon bending space with huge gravity to enable you to travel anywhere is probably harder than rearranging elements to give you any material you'd need, and seen as the elements are abundant throughout the galaxy, we really wouldn't have anything they need.
So I'd guess that any arrival would be merely out of curiosity, than of any grand we are here to conquer sci-fi film nonsense.
To be fair we've been broadcasting our position in the galaxy for over 30 years without anyone taking us up on it. So there's probably no one in the near vicinity anyhow  |
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