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Since when did English become the second language in the UK????
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By *awnpaulCouple
over a year ago
Hounslow |
"Same here, if we get a text like that we send it back and ask them to write it so we can read it  "
Nice idea, if we get messages full of text speak on here, it's just a delete, don't even bother reading the profile.....find it a real turn off! |
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Speaking just for myself it’s a fact that I didn’t do well at school, I just wasn’t that academic. Reading and writing was of little interest to me and it would also seem I’m a little dyslexic.
Having spent most of my working life making things, not pen pushing in an office I actually had little use for reading and writing. However in the advent of the Internet, mobile phones and PC’s becoming commonplace so to did the need for reading and writing.
Whatever intelligence, laziness or the lack of it I was born with still stands today but if you were to judge me by my English comprehension say 20 years ago the result would be something like illiterate dumb-arse. Ok so I can still be a dumb-arse at times but I can now (and for many years past) compose a letter that could stop an express train.
When people hit the swing sites, or sites of a type it could be the first time, or beginnings of a need to use written English.
I totally agree, inasmuch that I hate text-speak, its totally unnecessary in an email that doesn’t have a number of characters limit, I also find it difficult to read. But perhaps we shouldn’t be so hard on people who just don’t know any better. Its not just the English language that has been bastardised in this so-called modern society but so too has the meaning of good manners for a lot of folks. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I wasn`t refering to "txt spk", but people that don`t read your profile correctly prior to sending a message, a wink or even worse a "friends" invite. When ultimately there is no chance of meeting as both parties have no interests in common or they are clearly not what you are looking for, and is clearly stated in your profile.
I am not "knocking" folk who have dificulties or a lack of education in the subject (I myself left school with "zilch" qualifications) but those individuals who don`t read a profile before making contact, then they wonder why you reply with a "knockback", or get ignored.
Yours, Flumuxed.  |
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when i message back asking why they messaged when they are obviously not what im wanting ,the answer is ...just had to chance their arm . or my personal favorite " you dont ask you dont get !". makes me laugh as i state exactly what i think of people who do that .
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Unfortunately text speak is beginning to take over.
Is it just bad manners or laziness?"
i wouldnt say its down 2 bad manner's
as i was brought up 2 treat ppl with
respect..id say its lazyness more |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Unfortunately text speak is beginning to take over.
Is it just bad manners or laziness?
i wouldnt say its down 2 bad manner's
as i was brought up 2 treat ppl with
respect..id say its lazyness more "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I cant stand text speak. What ever happened to punctuation and grammer. God I sound just like my mother used to when I was younger."
You missed the apostrophe, question mark, comma and exclamation mark and it's grammar nor grammer.
If the mistakes were on purpose, then it's an excellent use of irony, otherwise, if you're going to make a point, try not to contradict it in the same sentence.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Unfortunately text speak is beginning to take over.
Is it just bad manners or laziness?
i wouldnt say its down 2 bad manner's
as i was brought up 2 treat ppl with
respect..id say its lazyness more
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It's a good point but,....
ppl?
down 2 bad manner?
lazyness?
I think people do it without realising these days  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It's laziness.
Anyone who thinks "2" is better than "to" or "u" is better than "you" is lazy, and unconcerned as to how they come across. Simple as that"
Why? They may be on a mobile not a pc and its not as easy to do things. Your very judgemental calling them lazy! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It's laziness.
Anyone who thinks "2" is better than "to" or "u" is better than "you" is lazy, and unconcerned as to how they come across. Simple as that
Why? They may be on a mobile not a pc and its not as easy to do things. Your very judgemental calling them lazy! "
Isn't doing the easy thing rather than the correct thing a pretty good definition of laziness? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Ok, but it is still a little lazy. I do use abbreviations occasionally.I do it because i can't be bothered to write the full word or to save time or space on a message.
If people have got a problem with people not spelling things correctly, or using improper grammar in a text or message on the Internet, then they should do so themsleves if they are going to whinge and whine about it! Who really cares as long as it is legible and doesn't need an enigma machine to dechipher..... |
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By *awnpaulCouple
over a year ago
Hounslow |
"I fink u r all mad
Ahhhhhhhh, thats better, I`ve just had a "lobotomy", can I join in now pleeeeeeeze.
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I'd sooner have a bottle if front of me than a frontal lobotomy.....
Sorry, off work and bored! |
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By *awnpaulCouple
over a year ago
Hounslow |
"Ok, but it is still a little lazy. I do use abbreviations occasionally.I do it because i can't be bothered to write the full word or to save time or space on a message.
If people have got a problem with people not spelling things correctly, or using improper grammar in a text or message on the Internet, then they should do so themsleves if they are going to whinge and whine about it! Who really cares as long as it is legible and doesn't need an enigma machine to dechipher..... "
'Dechipher'?? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It's laziness.
Anyone who thinks "2" is better than "to" or "u" is better than "you" is lazy, and unconcerned as to how they come across. Simple as that
Why? They may be on a mobile not a pc and its not as easy to do things. Your very judgemental calling them lazy!
Isn't doing the easy thing rather than the correct thing a pretty good definition of laziness?"
I just think at times some people just make assumptions. There are many reasons why people shorten things. Is it wrong? If so why? Spelling has changed for words over the century's and so has grammar. We don't all spend hours sat behind a pc screen some people log in on mobiles while doing other things. To call them lazy is unfair in my book. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Typing error, not a spelling mistake, or is that not allowed either?"
I really don't see why people pull others up over a typo. Its a very negative thing to do. When i see it in the forums it is just not necessary. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Typing error, not a spelling mistake, or is that not allowed either?"
You can usually tell the difference. A typing error will often involve swapping adjacent letters of a qwerty keyboard or on a cellphone keypad.
In the case of laziness (as opposed to lazyness) the i and the z are a good distance apart. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Typing error, not a spelling mistake, or is that not allowed either?
You can usually tell the difference. A typing error will often involve swapping adjacent letters of a qwerty keyboard or on a cellphone keypad.
In the case of laziness (as opposed to lazyness) the i and the z are a good distance apart. "
Does it really matter? Will god come down and strike you down? Will the pits of hell open and swallow you? |
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By *uss PussWoman
over a year ago
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"Typing error, not a spelling mistake, or is that not allowed either?
You can usually tell the difference. A typing error will often involve swapping adjacent letters of a qwerty keyboard or on a cellphone keypad.
In the case of laziness (as opposed to lazyness) the i and the z are a good distance apart.
Does it really matter? Will god come down and strike you down? Will the pits of hell open and swallow you? "
will anybody swallow? him |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Typing error, not a spelling mistake, or is that not allowed either?
You can usually tell the difference. A typing error will often involve swapping adjacent letters of a qwerty keyboard or on a cellphone keypad.
In the case of laziness (as opposed to lazyness) the i and the z are a good distance apart.
Does it really matter? Will god come down and strike you down? Will the pits of hell open and swallow you?
will anybody swallow? him"
Is it me or do others get an image of the typing correctly police being a middle aged man who folds his socks and large unfaltering Y fronts and places them carefully on a chair before going to bed? |
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By *awnpaulCouple
over a year ago
Hounslow |
"I cant stand text speak. What ever happened to punctuation and grammer. God I sound just like my mother used to when I was younger.
You missed the apostrophe, question mark, comma and exclamation mark and it's grammar nor grammer.
If the mistakes were on purpose, then it's an excellent use of irony, otherwise, if you're going to make a point, try not to contradict it in the same sentence. "
Just pointing it out......  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Unfortuantly we are seeing an evolution in the English language as others did 100's of years ago. Think back when everyone used thee's and thou's did they say the same thing amongst themselves?
Just for the record I detest "text speech" to such an extent I wont even use it giving its proper title. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It's laziness.
Anyone who thinks "2" is better than "to" or "u" is better than "you" is lazy, and unconcerned as to how they come across. Simple as that
Why? They may be on a mobile not a pc and its not as easy to do things. Your very judgemental calling them lazy! "
Yes, I am, why shouldn't I be? I expect to be measured by the same ruler I measure others with, in fact.
Besides, I'm fairly certain that a good definition of "lazy" is doing things the easy way as opposed to making an effort. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Is it me or do others get an image of the typing correctly police being a middle aged man who folds his socks and large unfaltering Y fronts and places them carefully on a chair before going to bed? "
Well you can see my photo right there, I'm the female.
So your image, whilst amusing, can be said not to be a generalisation.
Perhaps I value English more than most of you as it's not my mother tongue and I had to actually learn it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Personally I don't read messages that are written in text speak. I don't like it even on the telephone, but that's me, an old fuddy duddy!
What does have me in stiches though are comments on threads about immigrants not speaking English, when the very people complaining haven't mastered their own language!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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In the job I did, it was important to speak correctly so that you could be understood.
Sadly our youth culture does not feel the need to communicate in this way, as it is quicker and easier to shorten words or use numbers instead.
The use of correct language is, it appears, Dead.
We live in a multi-cultural country, with a divese, range of languages. Some of them use the english language better than some of our indiginous population. |
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By *awnpaulCouple
over a year ago
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"Unfortuantly we are seeing an evolution in the English language as others did 100's of years ago. Think back when everyone used thee's and thou's did they say the same thing amongst themselves?
Just for the record I detest "text speech" to such an extent I wont even use it giving its proper title."
All languages evolve, they always have, always will, whether that be due to new inventions, discoveries, ideas or just simple ease of use, evolve they will.
The difference with the way the language is changing nowadays in comparison with the past is that, in my opinion, it is becoming far less expressive and beautiful rather than more so. Evolution, by definition, should be a progression forwards, not backwards.......innit? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"In the job I did, it was important to speak correctly so that you could be understood.
Sadly our youth culture does not feel the need to communicate in this way, as it is quicker and easier to shorten words or use numbers instead.
The use of correct language is, it appears, Dead.
We live in a multi-cultural country, with a divese, range of languages. Some of them use the english language better than some of our indiginous population. "
Youth culture?!!
I'm talking about the old codgers on here that have difficulty stringing two words together and blame it on having to leave school to work "down pit" to earn a crust to feed the family. I wouldn't mind...but they're the same age as me!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"In the job I did, it was important to speak correctly so that you could be understood.
Sadly our youth culture does not feel the need to communicate in this way, as it is quicker and easier to shorten words or use numbers instead.
The use of correct language is, it appears, Dead.
We live in a multi-cultural country, with a divese, range of languages. Some of them use the english language better than some of our indiginous population.
Youth culture?!!
I'm talking about the old codgers on here that have difficulty stringing two words together and blame it on having to leave school to work "down pit" to earn a crust to feed the family. I wouldn't mind...but they're the same age as me!!"
Here we go with the north/south divide. You are bringing in colloquial and regional differences.
The point was that people do not use our language correctly, not every one is a cheeky Del Boy or a pig thick idiot.
I think the thread was about people not reading profiles, if they were written in text speak as well as plain English maybe the message would get through a bit better, |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"What north/south divide...you are talking bollox mate."
Actual I was reffering to the wording in the origional post!
As a quantity of the North of England was mining areas, and how the origional post was worded, it would by definition, point to an assumption that people from the north are not able to articulate correctly. "work down pit". |
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By *uss PussWoman
over a year ago
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"What north/south divide...you are talking bollox mate.
Actual I was reffering to the wording in the origional post!
As a quantity of the North of England was mining areas, and how the origional post was worded, it would by definition, point to an assumption that people from the north are not able to articulate correctly. "work down pit"."
Wales had pits. Next please |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Or is it just me that reads profiles and forum posts thoroughly before hitting the keyboard?
I do read the profile, if it only says couples or women, then I don't message
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Gander. "
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Or is it just me that reads profiles and forum posts thoroughly before hitting the keyboard?since the government fefused to listen to Enoch Powell
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Gander. "
UHHHHHH |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"In the job I did, it was important to speak correctly so that you could be understood.
Sadly our youth culture does not feel the need to communicate in this way, as it is quicker and easier to shorten words or use numbers instead.
The use of correct language is, it appears, Dead.
We live in a multi-cultural country, with a divese, range of languages. Some of them use the english language better than some of our indiginous population.
Youth culture?!!
I'm talking about the old codgers on here that have difficulty stringing two words together and blame it on having to leave school to work "down pit" to earn a crust to feed the family. I wouldn't mind...but they're the same age as me!!
Here we go with the north/south divide. You are bringing in colloquial and regional differences.
The point was that people do not use our language correctly, not every one is a cheeky Del Boy or a pig thick idiot.
I think the thread was about people not reading profiles, if they were written in text speak as well as plain English maybe the message would get through a bit better, "
Er, actually this topic crops up EVERY week, and one of the common retorts have been people saying they've had to literally work "down pit" hence their lack of education!
If you wish to see it as some north/south divide comment nothing I can do about that as it wasn't the intention! |
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By *uss PussWoman
over a year ago
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"[Removed by poster at 04/08/10 13:13:41]
Sorry, was trying to multi-task - should have read North of watford, my, bad, lol"
Sorry no mistakes allowed on this thread else you get an ass whoooopin |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"[Removed by poster at 04/08/10 13:13:41]
Sorry, was trying to multi-task - should have read North of watford, my, bad, lol
Sorry no mistakes allowed on this thread else you get an ass whoooopin "
I should be so lucky |
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Since when did English become the second language in the UK????
Since we started educating kids in school but provided them with an interpreter cos they cant speaka da ingeesh innit?
My answer.....
Picture the scene, Johnny foreigner arrives on our fair shores, and heads for a phone to make his claim for benefits.
He gets an automated system.....
"Welcome to the United Kingdom Benefits agency helpline, listen to the following options.
Press 1 if you speak English.
Press 2 to be disconected until you do.
Problem solved!! |
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