So what does everyone think about this?
Made me laugh that the woman from the school thinks it is more important to exclude her pupils based on petty uniform rules but couldn't manage to use correct grammar on BBC NEWS.
She used the word less when she should have used the word fewer.
It is a very minor thing but I found it odd that she would be such a pedant about uniform but not about grammar.
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The news clip stated that an entire uniform could be had for less than £50. Very reasonable. Only specified a standard, rather than a sole supplier.
Rules are rules, society would be anarchic if not for rules. |
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I don't think enforcing school rules is petty. 'designer label' bullying has been reported in the past and uniform can combat this, uniform helps instil a team spirit and sense of belonging and identity and the 'rules is rules' mentality is good when there is so much petty crime. I'm a great supporter of school uniform. |
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The news clip stated that an entire uniform could be had for less than £50. Very reasonable. Only specified a standard, rather than a sole supplier.
Rules are rules, society would be anarchic if not for rules. "
I agree with there being rules but it seemed as though people were being turned away for items which met the requirements! |
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"I don't think enforcing school rules is petty. 'designer label' bullying has been reported in the past and uniform can combat this, uniform helps instil a team spirit and sense of belonging and identity and the 'rules is rules' mentality is good when there is so much petty crime. I'm a great supporter of school uniform. "
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Both my children went to Hanson and i can assure u the cost of the uniform is at least 3 times the amount stated, blazer alone was £45, p.e kit in total was in excess of £30..and that's before trousers, shirts shoes etc. |
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The news clip stated that an entire uniform could be had for less than £50. Very reasonable. Only specified a standard, rather than a sole supplier.
Rules are rules, society would be anarchic if not for rules. "
Thats true and the parents have been warned about this for over a month its not unreasonable for people to conform to the rules starting with the uniform and following on with behaviour. Assuming the head teacher is doing it for the sake of it just shouts a naive attitude and a lack of understanding. Knowing you have to follow the rules from the start is re-enforced by a strict uniform and you then get less disruption in the classroom. |
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The news clip stated that an entire uniform could be had for less than £50. Very reasonable. Only specified a standard, rather than a sole supplier.
Rules are rules, society would be anarchic if not for rules. "
My daughter went there for a year and uniform costed more than that...Hanson also has a very high rate of bullying as well which the school should focus more on dealing with than uniforms |
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I agree, she should concentrate on her grammar, though also agree with uniform enforcement. So many primary and secondary school teachers have woefully inadequate levels of numeracy and literacy, yet they earn stupid money for a part time job, which they'd never be able to match in the private sector.
On the uniform issue specifically, it should be possible to specify a cost effective uniform, the only specialist requirement being a blazer badge, to be sewn on the breast pocket. I'd be in favour of one standard uniform throughout the UK, which could be bought in its entirety, apart from the badge, from any major supermarket. |
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I looked at the uniform rules and they didn't seem that strict. So long as parents and students know what's expected then it's fine to enforce it and should be encouraged in my view |
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"I agree, she should concentrate on her grammar, though also agree with uniform enforcement. So many primary and secondary school teachers have woefully inadequate levels of numeracy and literacy, yet they earn stupid money for a part time job, which they'd never be able to match in the private sector.
On the uniform issue specifically, it should be possible to specify a cost effective uniform, the only specialist requirement being a blazer badge, to be sewn on the breast pocket. I'd be in favour of one standard uniform throughout the UK, which could be bought in its entirety, apart from the badge, from any major supermarket."
While I agree about the literacy and numeracy bit - it is not a part time job (unless they actually work part-time and are paid accordingly) |
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That uniform does seem expensive but so are most senior schools, my sons pe kit was £56 then his uniform was on top. But it's a priority expense that we saved up for and save up throughout the year for. To send kids to school with incorrect uniform teaches the kids not to follow rules. My sons school send them home if they don't have everything correct but it's classed as a outstanding no nonsense school for that reason. |
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What a load of fuss about nothing. It's not like the need to buy school uniform came as a surprise is it? As a previous poster mentioned, save for it over the year and it's not a nasty bulk expense.
I've just read two articles about the same story, one on the BBC and one on the DM. The DM makes it sound like the children were being stoned to death for not turning up in the correct attire (big surprise there).
I wish more schools made a fuss about school uniform to be honest. My children think I'm a bit of a meanie sometimes for making them wear proper school shoes when half the children in their classes are wearing trainers and sandals. |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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There was a piece in The Guardian about another school two years ago. The parent who started that row damned the practice as petty and bullying by the school.
I didn't agree with her then and I would support the Hanson School for their stance.
My reason for this is that I have seen a turnaround in schools where these "petty" rules are enforced in this way. It makes parents participate in addressing the issues of their children choosing not to wear the uniform and shows the children that the rules apply even if their parents are lax about rules.
Discipline in the school is then instilled and attitudes can be more relaxed with everyone trusting that the rules are known and to be followed.
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"I agree, she should concentrate on her grammar, though also agree with uniform enforcement. So many primary and secondary school teachers have woefully inadequate levels of numeracy and literacy, yet they earn stupid money for a part time job, which they'd never be able to match in the private sector.
On the uniform issue specifically, it should be possible to specify a cost effective uniform, the only specialist requirement being a blazer badge, to be sewn on the breast pocket. I'd be in favour of one standard uniform throughout the UK, which could be bought in its entirety, apart from the badge, from any major supermarket."
I had to stop at stupid money and part time job as I was laughing so much. |
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"I don't think enforcing school rules is petty. 'designer label' bullying has been reported in the past and uniform can combat this, uniform helps instil a team spirit and sense of belonging and identity and the 'rules is rules' mentality is good when there is so much petty crime. I'm a great supporter of school uniform. "
Have you read the report on poverty in childhood
Even with uniform this is a big problem especially at secondary level
I grew up in poverty my uniforms were handed down from friends ect and never really fitted
I was bullied badly because of it
Luckily I've always been a strong person
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@foxy blonde vixen: bullying is awful no matter the reason and I'm glad you got through it. My point was that a uniform helps combat what I've termed 'designer label' bullying - uniform will not prevent bullying but it can work towards reducing it. |
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But it still happens in uniform level unless it's really strict
As in only brought though the school
My daughter goes to a special school so different rules apply
If she could wear she can't though the School sweatshirts they would cost £30 a time and she would need due to her issues about 7
This wouldn't be a problem for me now
But if I was a parent on benefits
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"Does anyone agree with the teachers wearing a uniform too?
I think so and some of the outfits my grandchildrens teachers wear are very inappropriate  "
I visited a school in New York where the teachers wear a uniform of black business suits.
Hanson Academy say their teachers dress in business wear.
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Was interesting to note that the Principal appears well attired in copious amounts of jewelry (sp?). I wonder what the school policy on that is?
Secondly, two simple questions for the *single* parent/mother who is quoted as saying she can't afford the correct shoes for her daughter :
a) could you not buy suitable shoes from the £20 a week child BENEFIT you receive, and
b) can the other parent not buy her some shoes?
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To suspend a child due to a parent not being able to afford a uniform is disgraceful.
However if a child refuses to wear it due to sensory issues e.g. ASD that is disability discrimination. School should be dragged to tribunal asap.
Child merely refusing to wear uniform to assert independence, fair enough. |
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"Does anyone agree with the teachers wearing a uniform too?
I think so and some of the outfits my grandchildrens teachers wear are very inappropriate "
There was a dress code for teachers at both the schools my children attended.
There was also a massive sale at the end of every school year when parents could buy heavily discounted school uniform. Some was second hand but most of it was new. You couldn't get in the door at these sales it was so busy. |
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