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By *inaTitz OP TV/TS
over a year ago
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Has anyone seen this, or is taking part?
It is a protest in Trafalgar Square (turns out not to be next to Fenchurch St according to my mate), against capitalism. They are camping out in the Square overnight and handing out food to the needy.
A friend of mine has gone down today and is coming back up here tomorrow. I've wished him good luck, but did query it with him. He's having to take 2 days off work, unpaid to do this and I told him it would be cheaper to pay his brother to go in his place. In fact, he would end up ahead on the deal. He wasn't so keen on this.
I advised him to see a show whilst he is down there. The museum of Comedy is doing a Tommy Cooper show that looks good and I thought he'd be mad to go all that way and not see it. He wasn't interested, sadly. I also asked him if he could do some Christmas shopping for me, if I gave him a list. Stuff from Harrods for a Maiden Aunt of mine and various friends of my mum's who are all of a certain age. No deal.
I did try my best to help him enjoy his anti-capitalism protest, but I suppose you can't help everyone. |
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"Has anyone seen this, or is taking part?
It is a protest in Trafalgar Square (turns out not to be next to Fenchurch St according to my mate), against capitalism. They are camping out in the Square overnight and handing out food to the needy.
A friend of mine has gone down today and is coming back up here tomorrow. I've wished him good luck, but did query it with him. He's having to take 2 days off work, unpaid to do this and I told him it would be cheaper to pay his brother to go in his place. In fact, he would end up ahead on the deal. He wasn't so keen on this.
I advised him to see a show whilst he is down there. The museum of Comedy is doing a Tommy Cooper show that looks good and I thought he'd be mad to go all that way and not see it. He wasn't interested, sadly. I also asked him if he could do some Christmas shopping for me, if I gave him a list. Stuff from Harrods for a Maiden Aunt of mine and various friends of my mum's who are all of a certain age. No deal.
I did try my best to help him enjoy his anti-capitalism protest, but I suppose you can't help everyone."
Its easy to be anti something, but what arrives in its place?  |
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Why have they chosen Guy Fawkes?
All he wanted was to install a catholic head of state in England who was loyal to the pope and the king of spain.
Hardly what I would consider an anti-capitalist hero! |
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By *inaTitz OP TV/TS
over a year ago
Titz Towers, North Notts |
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Its easy to be anti something, but what arrives in its place? "
My friend isn't sure yet; he's only just started reading 'Revolution' by Russell Brand. I did resist the urge to shout Park Life! all the time, though.  |
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Its easy to be anti something, but what arrives in its place?
My friend isn't sure yet; he's only just started reading 'Revolution' by Russell Brand. I did resist the urge to shout Park Life! all the time, though. "
I've recently bought the same book... Look forward to reading Mr brand's thoughts on the matter.. |
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Its easy to be anti something, but what arrives in its place?
My friend isn't sure yet; he's only just started reading 'Revolution' by Russell Brand. I did resist the urge to shout Park Life! all the time, though. "
Read about the Parklife thing in the paper today, lol, i'm tempted to go on twitter myself and post a "#Parklife" at the long haired Brand baffoon myself.  |
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By *inaTitz OP TV/TS
over a year ago
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"They're making an awful mess.
are you talking about the politicians, the demonstrators or both?
The demonstrators in this instance. "
I hope he disposes of the rubbish down there and doesn't wrap it and bring it back as presents for my list of peeps.  |
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"Has anyone seen this, or is taking part?
It is a protest in Trafalgar Square (turns out not to be next to Fenchurch St according to my mate), against capitalism. They are camping out in the Square overnight and handing out food to the needy.
A friend of mine has gone down today and is coming back up here tomorrow. I've wished him good luck, but did query it with him. He's having to take 2 days off work, unpaid to do this and I told him it would be cheaper to pay his brother to go in his place. In fact, he would end up ahead on the deal. He wasn't so keen on this.
I advised him to see a show whilst he is down there. The museum of Comedy is doing a Tommy Cooper show that looks good and I thought he'd be mad to go all that way and not see it. He wasn't interested, sadly. I also asked him if he could do some Christmas shopping for me, if I gave him a list. Stuff from Harrods for a Maiden Aunt of mine and various friends of my mum's who are all of a certain age. No deal.
I did try my best to help him enjoy his anti-capitalism protest, but I suppose you can't help everyone."
Should burn his number....cut him out of your life. |
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"They're making an awful mess.
are you talking about the politicians, the demonstrators or both?
The demonstrators in this instance. "
could be a problem seeing as how Bojo has relocated all the folks who keep london clean to estates in stoke, nottingham etc. |
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"They're making an awful mess.
are you talking about the politicians, the demonstrators or both?
The demonstrators in this instance.
could be a problem seeing as how Bojo has relocated all the folks who keep london clean to estates in stoke, nottingham etc."
The middle classes have been moved to stoke. They won't like that. |
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Not wishing to cause offence Tina.
But after the credit crush, sub prime miss selling, banking collapse, libor scandal, financial meltdown across Europe etc ect.. and the fact no ones been held accountable for their actions!
Maybe some people give a shit about how the world is and the direction money flows! What other ways are there for people to voice their opinions?
Unfortunately I'm at work tonight so make of that what you will! |
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I may be wrong but I expect the usual suspects will use this 'anti capitalism' protest to riot and cause widespread damage to private property.
And if there's no capitalism - what then?
Socialism? Communism? |
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"How does turning over every bin on regent street and Oxford street make a stand against capitalism ? "
quite possible that it does this in the same way that suffragettes smashing windows and setting fire to things got women the vote in 1928 |
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"Not wishing to cause offence Tina.
But after the credit crush, sub prime miss selling, banking collapse, libor scandal, financial meltdown across Europe etc ect.. and the fact no ones been held accountable for their actions!
Maybe some people give a shit about how the world is and the direction money flows! What other ways are there for people to voice their opinions?
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They could always vote! Isn't that the difference between democracy and chaos?
If I remember rightly, Gordon Brown WAS held accountable for expanding public spending so much that our grandkids will still be picking up the tab...
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"I may be wrong but I expect the usual suspects will use this 'anti capitalism' protest to riot and cause widespread damage to private property.
And if there's no capitalism - what then?
Socialism? Communism? "
we could try demarchism just for hell of it |
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How fortunate that they are living in a Capitalist country where protest meetings are allowed.
This sort of behaviour certainly wouldn't be permitted under a Communist regime...!!!
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"How does turning over every bin on regent street and Oxford street make a stand against capitalism ?
quite possible that it does this in the same way that suffragettes smashing windows and setting fire to things got women the vote in 1928"
...technically it was 1918 for 30 year olds and over, 1928 for 21 and over and 1969 for 18 and over...  |
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"Not wishing to cause offence Tina.
But after the credit crush, sub prime miss selling, banking collapse, libor scandal, financial meltdown across Europe etc ect.. and the fact no ones been held accountable for their actions!
Maybe some people give a shit about how the world is and the direction money flows! What other ways are there for people to voice their opinions?
They could always vote! Isn't that the difference between democracy and chaos?
If I remember rightly, Gordon Brown WAS held accountable for expanding public spending so much that our grandkids will still be picking up the tab...
Mr ddc"
Yes but the anti-capitalist Russel Brand has been telling people not to bother voting. He says he is against capitalism yet he wants to sell his booky wooky to millions of people and make millions of pounds profit in the process. He also seems to enjoy making a lot of money from comedy/stand up tours/radio shows/television appearences and personally i think he is a bit of a hypocrite. |
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"How does turning over every bin on regent street and Oxford street make a stand against capitalism ?
quite possible that it does this in the same way that suffragettes smashing windows and setting fire to things got women the vote in 1928
...technically it was 1918 for 30 year olds and over, 1928 for 21 and over and 1969 for 18 and over... "
technically it was 1928 when women had the same voting rights as men |
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"Wont see anything on the "news" as they have a media blackout on anything "anti government" regardless on how much money was used on policing. "
Been all over the news.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-29919083
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/riot-police-on-alert-ahead-of-bonfire-night-million-mask-march-by-activists-anonymous-9840520.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/million-masks-march-2014-thousands-gather-for-anticapitalist-protest-in-london-9842407.html
These media black outs ain't what they used to be eh ? |
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"Not wishing to cause offence Tina.
But after the credit crush, sub prime miss selling, banking collapse, libor scandal, financial meltdown across Europe etc ect.. and the fact no ones been held accountable for their actions!
Maybe some people give a shit about how the world is and the direction money flows! What other ways are there for people to voice their opinions?
They could always vote! Isn't that the difference between democracy and chaos?
If I remember rightly, Gordon Brown WAS held accountable for expanding public spending so much that our grandkids will still be picking up the tab...
Mr ddc
Yes but the anti-capitalist Russel Brand has been telling people not to bother voting. He says he is against capitalism yet he wants to sell his booky wooky to millions of people and make millions of pounds profit in the process. He also seems to enjoy making a lot of money from comedy/stand up tours/radio shows/television appearences and personally i think he is a bit of a hypocrite. "
....Maybe he just likes doing stand up and radio shows and writing books and making millions but paying his fair share of tax as a wealthy individual?.
Maybe he thinks voting is a waste of time because it never really changes anything anyhow, he's got a point most big societal changes came from rioting and not voting. Maybe he is a hypocrite who knows.
As far as I know and heard he pays his tax,s and works so he's as entitled to an opinion as everyone else is.
Socialism social-ism an ideology based around society.
Marxism marx-ism an ideology based around the work of Karl Marx.
Capitalism capital-ism an ideology based around money.
All these ideologies are just concepts thought up by people, like Tuesday or weekends or football or money! there not indelible like elements or mathematics, you can't find a better way of adding 2+2=4 it just is.
Concepts like all ideas can be changed for better ones.
Take a real good look at the world today with the insurmountable problems that accrue monthly and ask yourselves, do you think it can carry on much longer the way it is. |
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"If my friend was on snapchat, I'd have sent him pics of me nice and cosy, having a brew and eating Jaffa cakes, but he isn't, so I haven't. "
It was a storm in a tea cup anyway. A few upturned bins and nothing much else to report really. |
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By *inaTitz OP TV/TS
over a year ago
Titz Towers, North Notts |
I'm curious as to Brand's own tax arrangements and I wouldn't be surprised if these aren't being probed, as it is such a cliché - the radical who is a bit of a rogue himself (Horatio Bottomley, etc).
I hope it all gets tidied up down there. |
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"Not wishing to cause offence Tina.
But after the credit crush, sub prime miss selling, banking collapse, libor scandal, financial meltdown across Europe etc ect.. and the fact no ones been held accountable for their actions!
Maybe some people give a shit about how the world is and the direction money flows! What other ways are there for people to voice their opinions?
They could always vote! Isn't that the difference between democracy and chaos?
If I remember rightly, Gordon Brown WAS held accountable for expanding public spending so much that our grandkids will still be picking up the tab...
Mr ddc
Yes but the anti-capitalist Russel Brand has been telling people not to bother voting. He says he is against capitalism yet he wants to sell his booky wooky to millions of people and make millions of pounds profit in the process. He also seems to enjoy making a lot of money from comedy/stand up tours/radio shows/television appearences and personally i think he is a bit of a hypocrite. ....Maybe he just likes doing stand up and radio shows and writing books and making millions but paying his fair share of tax as a wealthy individual?.
Maybe he thinks voting is a waste of time because it never really changes anything anyhow, he's got a point most big societal changes came from rioting and not voting. Maybe he is a hypocrite who knows.
As far as I know and heard he pays his tax,s and works so he's as entitled to an opinion as everyone else is.
Socialism social-ism an ideology based around society.
Marxism marx-ism an ideology based around the work of Karl Marx.
Capitalism capital-ism an ideology based around money.
All these ideologies are just concepts thought up by people, like Tuesday or weekends or football or money! there not indelible like elements or mathematics, you can't find a better way of adding 2+2=4 it just is.
Concepts like all ideas can be changed for better ones.
Take a real good look at the world today with the insurmountable problems that accrue monthly and ask yourselves, do you think it can carry on much longer the way it is."
Russel Brand could donate all his fortune to charities or those less well off than himself. Maybe then i may start to take notice of anything he has to say if he practices what he preaches. |
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"How fortunate that they are living in a Capitalist country where protest meetings are allowed.
This sort of behaviour certainly wouldn't be permitted under a Communist regime...!!!
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No im sure nobody is allowed to demo in oooh lets say Hong Kong  |
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Maybe he doesn't want you to take notice of anything he says.
Maybe he does give all his money to charity, who knows except Russell brand.
But I'm guessing he was wealthy before he declared an interest in anti capitalism and he's probably making less money being anti establishment than he did before so he's not really a hypocrite as such! |
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bit of a walk to harrods for your friend, but you could let him know its only 10 minutes walk from covent garden...he could pick you up a couple of presents and also see the world famous unemployed drama students sprayed silver and standing about whilst he's there! |
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"How fortunate that they are living in a Capitalist country where protest meetings are allowed.
This sort of behaviour certainly wouldn't be permitted under a Communist regime...!!!
No im sure nobody is allowed to demo in oooh lets say Hong Kong "
Hong Kong has a different dynamic to it, those demonstrations would never have been allowed to happen in North Korea. |
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By *inaTitz OP TV/TS
over a year ago
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"bit of a walk to harrods for your friend, but you could let him know its only 10 minutes walk from covent garden...he could pick you up a couple of presents and also see the world famous unemployed drama students sprayed silver and standing about whilst he's there!"
I was hoping he'd make the most of his time. I worked out a programme for him that would have avoided the demo completely, but he thought I was missing the point. Forsooth! |
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"How fortunate that they are living in a Capitalist country where protest meetings are allowed.
This sort of behaviour certainly wouldn't be permitted under a Communist regime...!!!
No im sure nobody is allowed to demo in oooh lets say Hong Kong
Hong Kong has a different dynamic to it, those demonstrations would never have been allowed to happen in North Korea. "
that's because it's a dictatorship just like Hitler's right wing one was.
Dictatorships have nothing to do with political systems or ideologies |
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"Maybe he doesn't want you to take notice of anything he says.
Maybe he does give all his money to charity, who knows except Russell brand.
But I'm guessing he was wealthy before he declared an interest in anti capitalism and he's probably making less money being anti establishment than he did before so he's not really a hypocrite as such!"
He seemed to be enjoying all the trappings of wealth in the executive box at Upton Park last week. Not very anti establishment behaviour that us it ? |
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I think he's always been a west ham fan, and as far as I know I'm pretty sure west ham football club ain't the political establishment.
My point was if he just wanted to make money I'm sure he could make more saying the right stuff and not the stuff the establishment don't like being said.
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"We are Anonymous
We are legion
We don't forgive
We don't forget
Expect us
?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ew3aEMs9XbI"
Disturbingly similar to UKIPs ideals, but at least they are willing to show their faces...(except for the hacking as far as we know!) |
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"I think he's always been a west ham fan, and as far as I know I'm pretty sure west ham football club ain't the political establishment.
My point was if he just wanted to make money I'm sure he could make more saying the right stuff and not the stuff the establishment don't like being said."
Nah, anti-establishment is the way to get noticed, and make money (15 million apparently) then start up 'tax-efficient' film schemes.
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"I think he's always been a west ham fan, and as far as I know I'm pretty sure west ham football club ain't the political establishment.
My point was if he just wanted to make money I'm sure he could make more saying the right stuff and not the stuff the establishment don't like being said.
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But by being in a box he is separating himself from the riff raff who are ok when they buy his books and DVDs but not to sit amongst.
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"I think he's always been a west ham fan, and as far as I know I'm pretty sure west ham football club ain't the political establishment.
My point was if he just wanted to make money I'm sure he could make more saying the right stuff and not the stuff the establishment don't like being said.
But by being in a box he is separating himself from the riff raff who are ok when they buy his books and DVDs but not to sit amongst.
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Well on that token surely the people buying his books and DVDs are aware of his views but chose to buy them anyway. |
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"I think he's always been a west ham fan, and as far as I know I'm pretty sure west ham football club ain't the political establishment.
My point was if he just wanted to make money I'm sure he could make more saying the right stuff and not the stuff the establishment don't like being said.
But by being in a box he is separating himself from the riff raff who are ok when they buy his books and DVDs but not to sit amongst.
Well on that token surely the people buying his books and DVDs are aware of his views but chose to buy them anyway."
Or as we say in his parlance. He's just mugging them off. |
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"But it's never enough for these people is it?
Who's "these" people"
Sorry, I thought we were talking about Russell Brand, and his current pr campaign to publicise his 'brand', to encorage investment in his new film company, to make a film about him, to make him and his fellow investers even richer, so that they can further separate themselves from the people they purport to empathise with. While minimising tax payments the rest of us make, because we believe that is what 'society' is about, not knocking over a few bins and throwing fireworks at policemen! |
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It is a genius idea though. Make multi millions from one of the most capatilist industries there is. Then denounce capitalism and make more millions by writing a book about it.
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"I think he's always been a west ham fan, and as far as I know I'm pretty sure west ham football club ain't the political establishment.
My point was if he just wanted to make money I'm sure he could make more saying the right stuff and not the stuff the establishment don't like being said.
But by being in a box he is separating himself from the riff raff who are ok when they buy his books and DVDs but not to sit amongst.
Well on that token surely the people buying his books and DVDs are aware of his views but chose to buy them anyway.
Or as we say in his parlance. He's just mugging them off. "
How can he be mugging them off by telling them he's a firm believer in a fairer tax system and that tax's should be higher for wealthy individuals like himself or that the establishment is in a constant battle to keep poor people poor.
I've just watched and read loads of his tweets and videos and not once did he say he was a communist.
As far as I can tell he's a wealthy guy who's made loads and paid his tax's and is arguing that the system is corrupted towards the wealthy and that he and they should be paying more!. |
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"I think he's always been a west ham fan, and as far as I know I'm pretty sure west ham football club ain't the political establishment.
My point was if he just wanted to make money I'm sure he could make more saying the right stuff and not the stuff the establishment don't like being said.
But by being in a box he is separating himself from the riff raff who are ok when they buy his books and DVDs but not to sit amongst.
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Would agree with that, again if he practiced what he preaches he would sit in the stands with the masses and not get himself a cosy little executive box to sit in. |
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"I think he's always been a west ham fan, and as far as I know I'm pretty sure west ham football club ain't the political establishment.
My point was if he just wanted to make money I'm sure he could make more saying the right stuff and not the stuff the establishment don't like being said.
But by being in a box he is separating himself from the riff raff who are ok when they buy his books and DVDs but not to sit amongst.
Well on that token surely the people buying his books and DVDs are aware of his views but chose to buy them anyway.
Or as we say in his parlance. He's just mugging them off.
How can he be mugging them off by telling them he's a firm believer in a fairer tax system and that tax's should be higher for wealthy individuals like himself or that the establishment is in a constant battle to keep poor people poor.
I've just watched and read loads of his tweets and videos and not once did he say he was a communist.
As far as I can tell he's a wealthy guy who's made loads and paid his tax's and is arguing that the system is corrupted towards the wealthy and that he and they should be paying more!."
He's getting wealthy by selling books telling how the system is corrupt towards the wealthy
I'd say that was mugging people off. But that's just my interpretation of it. |
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What does he preach!.
I've read lots of made up stuff about films and tax scams and private box's but I can't find one video or tweet about private box's should be outlawed or one article on any tax avoidance he's done.
And you really ought to be pretty sure when writing that as its libelous. |
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"I think he's always been a west ham fan, and as far as I know I'm pretty sure west ham football club ain't the political establishment.
My point was if he just wanted to make money I'm sure he could make more saying the right stuff and not the stuff the establishment don't like being said.
But by being in a box he is separating himself from the riff raff who are ok when they buy his books and DVDs but not to sit amongst.
Well on that token surely the people buying his books and DVDs are aware of his views but chose to buy them anyway.
Or as we say in his parlance. He's just mugging them off.
How can he be mugging them off by telling them he's a firm believer in a fairer tax system and that tax's should be higher for wealthy individuals like himself or that the establishment is in a constant battle to keep poor people poor.
I've just watched and read loads of his tweets and videos and not once did he say he was a communist.
As far as I can tell he's a wealthy guy who's made loads and paid his tax's and is arguing that the system is corrupted towards the wealthy and that he and they should be paying more!.
He's getting wealthy by selling books telling how the system is corrupt towards the wealthy
I'd say that was mugging people off. But that's just my interpretation of it. "
I'd say if you freely hand over your money too a chap who's wrote a book declaring that, when it's already been wrote a thousand times over the last 150 years.
You need mugging off |
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"What does he preach!.
I've read lots of made up stuff about films and tax scams and private box's but I can't find one video or tweet about private box's should be outlawed or one article on any tax avoidance he's done.
And you really ought to be pretty sure when writing that as its libelous."
You can't see the hypocrisy of him trying to come across as a man of the people but as long as he doesn't have to sit amongst these people. |
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"What does he preach!.
I've read lots of made up stuff about films and tax scams and private box's but I can't find one video or tweet about private box's should be outlawed or one article on any tax avoidance he's done.
And you really ought to be pretty sure when writing that as its libelous."
Not sure anyone did say that.
I'm sure he's a little angel, just mass rioting and chaos isn't my thing, rather have a nice cup of tea.
And that bin isn't going to pick itself up... |
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"What does he preach!.
I've read lots of made up stuff about films and tax scams and private box's but I can't find one video or tweet about private box's should be outlawed or one article on any tax avoidance he's done.
And you really ought to be pretty sure when writing that as its libelous.
You can't see the hypocrisy of him trying to come across as a man of the people but as long as he doesn't have to sit amongst these people. "
Google brand sat at west ham.
There's at least 50 pictures I can find of him sat in the crowd. |
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"What does he preach!.
I've read lots of made up stuff about films and tax scams and private box's but I can't find one video or tweet about private box's should be outlawed or one article on any tax avoidance he's done.
And you really ought to be pretty sure when writing that as its libelous.
Not sure anyone did say that.
I'm sure he's a little angel, just mass rioting and chaos isn't my thing, rather have a nice cup of tea.
And that bin isn't going to pick itself up..."
So now your insinuating that hes mass rioting,causing chaos and kicking bins over. |
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"Not wishing to cause offence Tina.
But after the credit crush, sub prime miss selling, banking collapse, libor scandal, financial meltdown across Europe etc ect.. and the fact no ones been held accountable for their actions!
Maybe some people give a shit about how the world is and the direction money flows! What other ways are there for people to voice their opinions?
They could always vote! Isn't that the difference between democracy and chaos?
If I remember rightly, Gordon Brown WAS held accountable for expanding public spending so much that our grandkids will still be picking up the tab...
Mr ddc
Yes but the anti-capitalist Russel Brand has been telling people not to bother voting. He says he is against capitalism yet he wants to sell his booky wooky to millions of people and make millions of pounds profit in the process. He also seems to enjoy making a lot of money from comedy/stand up tours/radio shows/television appearences and personally i think he is a bit of a hypocrite. ....Maybe he just likes doing stand up and radio shows and writing books and making millions but paying his fair share of tax as a wealthy individual?.
Maybe he thinks voting is a waste of time because it never really changes anything anyhow, he's got a point most big societal changes came from rioting and not voting. Maybe he is a hypocrite who knows.
As far as I know and heard he pays his tax,s and works so he's as entitled to an opinion as everyone else is.
Socialism social-ism an ideology based around society.
Marxism marx-ism an ideology based around the work of Karl Marx.
Capitalism capital-ism an ideology based around money.
All these ideologies are just concepts thought up by people, like Tuesday or weekends or football or money! there not indelible like elements or mathematics, you can't find a better way of adding 2+2=4 it just is.
Concepts like all ideas can be changed for better ones.
Take a real good look at the world today with the insurmountable problems that accrue monthly and ask yourselves, do you think it can carry on much longer the way it is.
Russel Brand could donate all his fortune to charities or those less well off than himself. Maybe then i may start to take notice of anything he has to say if he practices what he preaches."
Maybe Cameron and all the other multi millionaire MP's can do the same, as well as giving up their 11% self appointed pay rise and their solid gold, ring fenced super pensions that they also voted for themselves- as after all, we're all in it together apparently?  |
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"What does he preach!.
I've read lots of made up stuff about films and tax scams and private box's but I can't find one video or tweet about private box's should be outlawed or one article on any tax avoidance he's done.
And you really ought to be pretty sure when writing that as its libelous.
You can't see the hypocrisy of him trying to come across as a man of the people but as long as he doesn't have to sit amongst these people.
Google brand sat at west ham.
There's at least 50 pictures I can find of him sat in the crowd."
Sitting next to Trevor Brooking does not constitute sitting in the crowd. |
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"What does he preach!.
I've read lots of made up stuff about films and tax scams and private box's but I can't find one video or tweet about private box's should be outlawed or one article on any tax avoidance he's done.
And you really ought to be pretty sure when writing that as its libelous.
Not sure anyone did say that.
I'm sure he's a little angel, just mass rioting and chaos isn't my thing, rather have a nice cup of tea.
And that bin isn't going to pick itself up...
So now your insinuating that hes mass rioting,causing chaos and kicking bins over."
He's said on record there needs to be a revolution in this country. Revolutions seldom seem to be peaceful affairs now do they? |
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So now your insinuating that hes mass rioting,causing chaos and kicking bins over."
No, I'm insinuating I'm bored, I've said my piece, and I'm going to bed because I have work in the morning.
(Someone has to provide these Capitalists with calorie-rich cat-food)
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"Not wishing to cause offence Tina.
But after the credit crush, sub prime miss selling, banking collapse, libor scandal, financial meltdown across Europe etc ect.. and the fact no ones been held accountable for their actions!
Maybe some people give a shit about how the world is and the direction money flows! What other ways are there for people to voice their opinions?
They could always vote! Isn't that the difference between democracy and chaos?
If I remember rightly, Gordon Brown WAS held accountable for expanding public spending so much that our grandkids will still be picking up the tab...
Mr ddc
Yes but the anti-capitalist Russel Brand has been telling people not to bother voting. He says he is against capitalism yet he wants to sell his booky wooky to millions of people and make millions of pounds profit in the process. He also seems to enjoy making a lot of money from comedy/stand up tours/radio shows/television appearences and personally i think he is a bit of a hypocrite. ....Maybe he just likes doing stand up and radio shows and writing books and making millions but paying his fair share of tax as a wealthy individual?.
Maybe he thinks voting is a waste of time because it never really changes anything anyhow, he's got a point most big societal changes came from rioting and not voting. Maybe he is a hypocrite who knows.
As far as I know and heard he pays his tax,s and works so he's as entitled to an opinion as everyone else is.
Socialism social-ism an ideology based around society.
Marxism marx-ism an ideology based around the work of Karl Marx.
Capitalism capital-ism an ideology based around money.
All these ideologies are just concepts thought up by people, like Tuesday or weekends or football or money! there not indelible like elements or mathematics, you can't find a better way of adding 2+2=4 it just is.
Concepts like all ideas can be changed for better ones.
Take a real good look at the world today with the insurmountable problems that accrue monthly and ask yourselves, do you think it can carry on much longer the way it is.
Russel Brand could donate all his fortune to charities or those less well off than himself. Maybe then i may start to take notice of anything he has to say if he practices what he preaches.
Maybe Cameron and all the other multi millionaire MP's can do the same, as well as giving up their 11% self appointed pay rise and their solid gold, ring fenced super pensions that they also voted for themselves- as after all, we're all in it together apparently? "
One key difference which you missed, Cameron and many other MP's don't claim to be anti capitalist like Russel Brand does. |
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"What does he preach!.
I've read lots of made up stuff about films and tax scams and private box's but I can't find one video or tweet about private box's should be outlawed or one article on any tax avoidance he's done.
And you really ought to be pretty sure when writing that as its libelous.
You can't see the hypocrisy of him trying to come across as a man of the people but as long as he doesn't have to sit amongst these people.
Google brand sat at west ham.
There's at least 50 pictures I can find of him sat in the crowd.
Sitting next to Trevor Brooking does not constitute sitting in the crowd. "
I've found at least 50 of him sat/jumping/chanting with everyday fans with one simple Google search.
Maybe the time you saw him in that private box was a birthday treat or a gift from someone or a present from the club he's been a life long fan off.
In fact there could be lots of reasons but it shows more about your presumptions than his. |
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"What does he preach!.
I've read lots of made up stuff about films and tax scams and private box's but I can't find one video or tweet about private box's should be outlawed or one article on any tax avoidance he's done.
And you really ought to be pretty sure when writing that as its libelous.
You can't see the hypocrisy of him trying to come across as a man of the people but as long as he doesn't have to sit amongst these people.
Google brand sat at west ham.
There's at least 50 pictures I can find of him sat in the crowd.
Sitting next to Trevor Brooking does not constitute sitting in the crowd. I've found at least 50 of him sat/jumping/chanting with everyday fans with one simple Google search.
Maybe the time you saw him in that private box was a birthday treat or a gift from someone or a present from the club he's been a life long fan off.
In fact there could be lots of reasons but it shows more about your presumptions than his."
He used to sit in the crowd , I would see him every Saturday. I could tell you exactly where he sat. I've spoke to him at football on a few occasions. He has not sat in the crowd for ages but prefers to hob nob it in the players lounge. |
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"Not wishing to cause offence Tina.
But after the credit crush, sub prime miss selling, banking collapse, libor scandal, financial meltdown across Europe etc ect.. and the fact no ones been held accountable for their actions!
Maybe some people give a shit about how the world is and the direction money flows! What other ways are there for people to voice their opinions?
They could always vote! Isn't that the difference between democracy and chaos?
If I remember rightly, Gordon Brown WAS held accountable for expanding public spending so much that our grandkids will still be picking up the tab...
Mr ddc
Yes but the anti-capitalist Russel Brand has been telling people not to bother voting. He says he is against capitalism yet he wants to sell his booky wooky to millions of people and make millions of pounds profit in the process. He also seems to enjoy making a lot of money from comedy/stand up tours/radio shows/television appearences and personally i think he is a bit of a hypocrite. ....Maybe he just likes doing stand up and radio shows and writing books and making millions but paying his fair share of tax as a wealthy individual?.
Maybe he thinks voting is a waste of time because it never really changes anything anyhow, he's got a point most big societal changes came from rioting and not voting. Maybe he is a hypocrite who knows.
As far as I know and heard he pays his tax,s and works so he's as entitled to an opinion as everyone else is.
Socialism social-ism an ideology based around society.
Marxism marx-ism an ideology based around the work of Karl Marx.
Capitalism capital-ism an ideology based around money.
All these ideologies are just concepts thought up by people, like Tuesday or weekends or football or money! there not indelible like elements or mathematics, you can't find a better way of adding 2+2=4 it just is.
Concepts like all ideas can be changed for better ones.
Take a real good look at the world today with the insurmountable problems that accrue monthly and ask yourselves, do you think it can carry on much longer the way it is.
Russel Brand could donate all his fortune to charities or those less well off than himself. Maybe then i may start to take notice of anything he has to say if he practices what he preaches.
Maybe Cameron and all the other multi millionaire MP's can do the same, as well as giving up their 11% self appointed pay rise and their solid gold, ring fenced super pensions that they also voted for themselves- as after all, we're all in it together apparently?
One key difference which you missed, Cameron and many other MP's don't claim to be anti capitalist like Russel Brand does. "
But they do like to bang on about how they're so connected to the public, how they're just the same- yet they voted themselves a large pay rise while all the 'normal' civil servants were given below inflation or bugger all. They seem to be able to commit fraud with their expenses claims and if they get caught they just pay it back and say 'sorry, administration error' yet the rest of us would face prison, they want to monitor our every move under the guise of 'anti-terrorism', yet at the same time they're passing laws to keep everything they do secret. they bury bad news, manipulate figures, disguise corruption and control the press.
I really don't give a shit if Brand makes some more money from spouting off about it all as long as people start to notice what an absolute shower of shit this current lot are. |
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Seems like indifference wins the day again. No point in raising awareness to anything because it just gets ignored.
When it comes to corporate greed and poor practices of some of the wealthiest company's/financial institutions... it's probably best to let them people in Westminster take control because they do a damn good job of it. 
They all go out to dinner together and party's... so they know each other really well! |
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last anti-capitalist demo I went to I got kettled  I've always felt going to these things was not so much a declaration of some grand alternative... just merely a gathering with others who also think 'there must be something better than this'. In that sense these things are really just emotional events rather than anything like a political movement imo |
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"Not wishing to cause offence Tina.
But after the credit crush, sub prime miss selling, banking collapse, libor scandal, financial meltdown across Europe etc ect.. and the fact no ones been held accountable for their actions!
Maybe some people give a shit about how the world is and the direction money flows! What other ways are there for people to voice their opinions?
They could always vote! Isn't that the difference between democracy and chaos?
If I remember rightly, Gordon Brown WAS held accountable for expanding public spending so much that our grandkids will still be picking up the tab...
Mr ddc
Yes but the anti-capitalist Russel Brand has been telling people not to bother voting. He says he is against capitalism yet he wants to sell his booky wooky to millions of people and make millions of pounds profit in the process. He also seems to enjoy making a lot of money from comedy/stand up tours/radio shows/television appearences and personally i think he is a bit of a hypocrite. ....Maybe he just likes doing stand up and radio shows and writing books and making millions but paying his fair share of tax as a wealthy individual?.
Maybe he thinks voting is a waste of time because it never really changes anything anyhow, he's got a point most big societal changes came from rioting and not voting. Maybe he is a hypocrite who knows.
As far as I know and heard he pays his tax,s and works so he's as entitled to an opinion as everyone else is.
Socialism social-ism an ideology based around society.
Marxism marx-ism an ideology based around the work of Karl Marx.
Capitalism capital-ism an ideology based around money.
All these ideologies are just concepts thought up by people, like Tuesday or weekends or football or money! there not indelible like elements or mathematics, you can't find a better way of adding 2+2=4 it just is.
Concepts like all ideas can be changed for better ones.
Take a real good look at the world today with the insurmountable problems that accrue monthly and ask yourselves, do you think it can carry on much longer the way it is.
Russel Brand could donate all his fortune to charities or those less well off than himself. Maybe then i may start to take notice of anything he has to say if he practices what he preaches."
He does his fair share of giving back...eg.https://www.looktothestars.org/celebrity/russell-brand |
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Some people take action by posting on forums, other people protest in the street.
Companies are earning record profits in many cases, the implication that there is no money around simply isn't true, it's just being held at the top.
I don't see anything wrong in what the protesters are saying.
Newspapers campaign to inflame public sentiment which in turn makes politicians take positions they may not have otherwise taken. So when they say Murdoch runs the country I think they have a point. |
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By *xpresMan
over a year ago
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Capitalism is GREAT, I love money, I love spending my money on what I like. From guns to music to movies electical goods good food spoiling my lads I love it love it love it....
Im not evil to like money when I work fucking hard to get it n I can't take it with me when I'm gone so spend spend soend |
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"How does turning over every bin on regent street and Oxford street make a stand against capitalism ?
quite possible that it does this in the same way that suffragettes smashing windows and setting fire to things got women the vote in 1928"
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By *arry247Couple
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But they do like to bang on about how they're so connected to the public, how they're just the same- yet they voted themselves a large pay rise while all the 'normal' civil servants were given below inflation or bugger all. "
You should get your facts straight, MPs did not vote themselves a pay rise.
Since 24 May 2011 the Independent Parliamentary Standards Authority (IPSA) was made responsible for determining MPs' pay and setting the level of any increase in their salary. |
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But they do like to bang on about how they're so connected to the public, how they're just the same- yet they voted themselves a large pay rise while all the 'normal' civil servants were given below inflation or bugger all.
You should get your facts straight, MPs did not vote themselves a pay rise.
Since 24 May 2011 the Independent Parliamentary Standards Authority (IPSA) was made responsible for determining MPs' pay and setting the level of any increase in their salary. "
Shush. You'll set off all the communists, Marxists and anti-capitalismists again.
Who was it that said if you are not a communist by 20, you have no heart. If you are still one by 30, you have no brain? Or something along those lines.
Russell Brand is simply a twat |
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Roll cage fitted.
side windows replaced with perspex.
1000 watt spotlamps installed.
5 point harness safety checked.
The cooper is ready. Where is the rally again? |
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But they do like to bang on about how they're so connected to the public, how they're just the same- yet they voted themselves a large pay rise while all the 'normal' civil servants were given below inflation or bugger all.
You should get your facts straight, MPs did not vote themselves a pay rise.
Since 24 May 2011 the Independent Parliamentary Standards Authority (IPSA) was made responsible for determining MPs' pay and setting the level of any increase in their salary.
Shush. You'll set off all the communists, Marxists and anti-capitalismists again.
Who was it that said if you are not a communist by 20, you have no heart. If you are still one by 30, you have no brain? Or something along those lines.
Russell Brand is simply a twat"
That was Churchill, and your description of the Brand monster is spot on. |
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But they do like to bang on about how they're so connected to the public, how they're just the same- yet they voted themselves a large pay rise while all the 'normal' civil servants were given below inflation or bugger all.
You should get your facts straight, MPs did not vote themselves a pay rise.
Since 24 May 2011 the Independent Parliamentary Standards Authority (IPSA) was made responsible for determining MPs' pay and setting the level of any increase in their salary. "
spot on..
they also abolished the same independence for other public sector workers ..
austerity seems to end at the unreal world of the subsidised eateries of the palace of Westminster..
suppose we are all in it together though.. |
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But they do like to bang on about how they're so connected to the public, how they're just the same- yet they voted themselves a large pay rise while all the 'normal' civil servants were given below inflation or bugger all.
You should get your facts straight, MPs did not vote themselves a pay rise.
Since 24 May 2011 the Independent Parliamentary Standards Authority (IPSA) was made responsible for determining MPs' pay and setting the level of any increase in their salary. "
I'm fully aware it was 'forced on them' by IPSA, exactly how independent they really are is a whole different subject |
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"I may be wrong but I expect the usual suspects will use this 'anti capitalism' protest to riot and cause widespread damage to private property.
And if there's no capitalism - what then?
Socialism? Communism? "
We're already a socialist country.
NHS, state education for all children, pensions etc etc etc
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By *oo hotCouple
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This kind of thing tickles me it really does. All this complaining about the flow of money by the poor and oppressed.
Here is an idea, focus your energies on looking after yourselves and suddenly the system will not appear to be quite so overbearing. I guess the anti capitalist view is to just give more money to people for doing nothing? Clever. |
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"I may be wrong but I expect the usual suspects will use this 'anti capitalism' protest to riot and cause widespread damage to private property.
And if there's no capitalism - what then?
Socialism? Communism?
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Oh yes communism. Try asking the East Germans if they would like Hoeniker back. You might even get an answer, just before they lynch you.  |
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