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They stand for the common man, the underdog, every crying little child, every working single mother.
They stand for freedom (cue a stirring anthem), Hope, Liberty, the ability to stand up and say 'no Europe, I dont think so sonny!'.
The stand for great British values, HP sauce, bacon rolls and lawn bowls....they stand for you! (Anthem climax).
.....actually I'm not sure what ukip stands for  |
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UK Independence Party
The UK Independence Party (UKIP, sometimes styled Ukip /'ju?k?p/) is a Eurosceptic right-wing populist political party in the United Kingdom, founded in 1993 by members of the Anti-Federalist League. The party describes itself in its constitution as a "democratic, libertarian party".
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"Even their supporters don`t know!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQStoRc5LC8
I'm sure you be able to find out if you visit their website. Good luck."
You'd think so - but the surprisingly for a political party their manifesto is conspicuous by it's absence.
That clip is cringeorthy, but let's not forget this clip when even Farage embarrassingly couldn't answer questions on his manifesto
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ek159wmiB3E |
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"Even their supporters don`t know!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQStoRc5LC8
I'm sure you be able to find out if you visit their website. Good luck.
You'd think so - but the surprisingly for a political party their manifesto is conspicuous by it's absence.
That clip is cringeorthy, but let's not forget this clip when even Farage embarrassingly couldn't answer questions on his manifesto
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ek159wmiB3E"
They are slacking then. Have all the other parties published their manifestos already? I will start reading them if so.
I find it embarrassing when politicians of any party can't answer questions, it's worse when they won't answer questions. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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there is a serious reason why people don't know what ukip stand for.... because they don't have any policies except immigration (where they want to bring in the australian based "points system") and wanting out of the EU... everything else is in their own words "up in the air"
which makes it more scary that people vote for them without knowing what their views are on the ecomony for example... or health... or schools... or a million other things |
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"Even their supporters don`t know!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQStoRc5LC8"
The laughs will be sour faces when the general election comes around and you find they have finished third behind lab/con..they will then come to power with one or the other as the lib dems sold everything they had for their 15 minutes of fame.
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"They stand for polite racism for Waitrose shoppers.
Are you telling me there are 'Kippers in my Waitrose?
Chesterfield isn't posh enough for a waitrose  "
It's got a massive tesco on legs |
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"there is a serious reason why people don't know what ukip stand for.... because they don't have any policies except immigration (where they want to bring in the australian based "points system") and wanting out of the EU... everything else is in their own words "up in the air"
which makes it more scary that people vote for them without knowing what their views are on the ecomony for example... or health... or schools... or a million other things"
I have read quite a few policies on their web site. I have read other parties policies too. |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"there is a serious reason why people don't know what ukip stand for.... because they don't have any policies except immigration (where they want to bring in the australian based "points system") and wanting out of the EU... everything else is in their own words "up in the air"
which makes it more scary that people vote for them without knowing what their views are on the ecomony for example... or health... or schools... or a million other things"
The link the OP posted just sounds like every conversation I have had with UKIP supporters. One person said that it didn't matter what their policies are as they trust them to do the right thing. When I asked what the right thing is they resorted to the immigration argument. It would seem that health, defence, education, transport and everything else will be sorted because of an immigration policy.
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"They stand for polite racism for Waitrose shoppers.
Are you telling me there are 'Kippers in my Waitrose?
Chesterfield isn't posh enough for a waitrose
It's got a massive tesco on legs "
Horrible place. |
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"there is a serious reason why people don't know what ukip stand for.... because they don't have any policies except immigration (where they want to bring in the australian based "points system") and wanting out of the EU... everything else is in their own words "up in the air"
which makes it more scary that people vote for them without knowing what their views are on the ecomony for example... or health... or schools... or a million other things"
Precisely where the SNP fell short also but 45 percent of the country still said yes.
Sometimes peoples breaking point over said issues will push them to "take that chance"as you saw in Scotland as the present system does not offer much hope for masses of hard working people |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"there is a serious reason why people don't know what ukip stand for.... because they don't have any policies except immigration (where they want to bring in the australian based "points system") and wanting out of the EU... everything else is in their own words "up in the air"
which makes it more scary that people vote for them without knowing what their views are on the ecomony for example... or health... or schools... or a million other things
I have read quite a few policies on their web site. I have read other parties policies too."
They have improved their headline statements and packaged them well into good soundbites on the website.
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"there is a serious reason why people don't know what ukip stand for.... because they don't have any policies except immigration (where they want to bring in the australian based "points system") and wanting out of the EU... everything else is in their own words "up in the air"
which makes it more scary that people vote for them without knowing what their views are on the ecomony for example... or health... or schools... or a million other things
The link the OP posted just sounds like every conversation I have had with UKIP supporters. One person said that it didn't matter what their policies are as they trust them to do the right thing. When I asked what the right thing is they resorted to the immigration argument. It would seem that health, defence, education, transport and everything else will be sorted because of an immigration policy.
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I find it all a bit scary. I genuinely wouldn't want to live here if they came into power. A lot of people I've discussed this issue with feels the same |
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"They stand for polite racism for Waitrose shoppers.
Are you telling me there are 'Kippers in my Waitrose?
Chesterfield isn't posh enough for a waitrose
It's got a massive tesco on legs
Horrible place."
Lol........ I try not to stay in the town long enough |
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"there is a serious reason why people don't know what ukip stand for.... because they don't have any policies except immigration (where they want to bring in the australian based "points system") and wanting out of the EU... everything else is in their own words "up in the air"
which makes it more scary that people vote for them without knowing what their views are on the ecomony for example... or health... or schools... or a million other things
I have read quite a few policies on their web site. I have read other parties policies too.
They have improved their headline statements and packaged them well into good soundbites on the website.
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They certainly seem to be learning fast. They also have the advantage of not having had any power so far.
It took the Labour Party 25 years from having keir hardie elected to forming a coalition government, I'm beginning to wonder if they will beat that time. |
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"there is a serious reason why people don't know what ukip stand for.... because they don't have any policies except immigration (where they want to bring in the australian based "points system") and wanting out of the EU... everything else is in their own words "up in the air"
which makes it more scary that people vote for them without knowing what their views are on the ecomony for example... or health... or schools... or a million other things
The link the OP posted just sounds like every conversation I have had with UKIP supporters. One person said that it didn't matter what their policies are as they trust them to do the right thing. When I asked what the right thing is they resorted to the immigration argument. It would seem that health, defence, education, transport and everything else will be sorted because of an immigration policy.
I find it all a bit scary. I genuinely wouldn't want to live here if they came into power. A lot of people I've discussed this issue with feels the same "
They really cannot be any worse than the last 50 years of stealing tory bastard governments or fuck up labour ones in all honesty |
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Whatever UKIP stand for, i love the following recent and concise comment by Farage :
""To sell out so that one or two people can have ministerial positions is not what UKIP's about."
Whatever UKIP are, can they fuck the country over any worse than Blair, Brown and cronies?
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"there is a serious reason why people don't know what ukip stand for.... because they don't have any policies except immigration (where they want to bring in the australian based "points system") and wanting out of the EU... everything else is in their own words "up in the air"
which makes it more scary that people vote for them without knowing what their views are on the ecomony for example... or health... or schools... or a million other things
The link the OP posted just sounds like every conversation I have had with UKIP supporters. One person said that it didn't matter what their policies are as they trust them to do the right thing. When I asked what the right thing is they resorted to the immigration argument. It would seem that health, defence, education, transport and everything else will be sorted because of an immigration policy.
I find it all a bit scary. I genuinely wouldn't want to live here if they came into power. A lot of people I've discussed this issue with feels the same They really cannot be any worse than the last 50 years of stealing tory bastard governments or fuck up labour ones in all honesty"
Except their racist idiots that want us out of europe and people like Britain first and all those twunts will be in controllable. It will be carnage |
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"there is a serious reason why people don't know what ukip stand for.... because they don't have any policies except immigration (where they want to bring in the australian based "points system") and wanting out of the EU... everything else is in their own words "up in the air"
which makes it more scary that people vote for them without knowing what their views are on the ecomony for example... or health... or schools... or a million other things
The link the OP posted just sounds like every conversation I have had with UKIP supporters. One person said that it didn't matter what their policies are as they trust them to do the right thing. When I asked what the right thing is they resorted to the immigration argument. It would seem that health, defence, education, transport and everything else will be sorted because of an immigration policy.
I find it all a bit scary. I genuinely wouldn't want to live here if they came into power. A lot of people I've discussed this issue with feels the same They really cannot be any worse than the last 50 years of stealing tory bastard governments or fuck up labour ones in all honesty
Except their racist idiots that want us out of europe and people like Britain first and all those twunts will be in controllable. It will be carnage "
You could be talking about the tories with that statement |
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"there is a serious reason why people don't know what ukip stand for.... because they don't have any policies except immigration (where they want to bring in the australian based "points system") and wanting out of the EU... everything else is in their own words "up in the air"
which makes it more scary that people vote for them without knowing what their views are on the ecomony for example... or health... or schools... or a million other things
The link the OP posted just sounds like every conversation I have had with UKIP supporters. One person said that it didn't matter what their policies are as they trust them to do the right thing. When I asked what the right thing is they resorted to the immigration argument. It would seem that health, defence, education, transport and everything else will be sorted because of an immigration policy.
I find it all a bit scary. I genuinely wouldn't want to live here if they came into power. A lot of people I've discussed this issue with feels the same They really cannot be any worse than the last 50 years of stealing tory bastard governments or fuck up labour ones in all honesty
Except their racist idiots that want us out of europe and people like Britain first and all those twunts will be in controllable. It will be carnage You could be talking about the tories with that statement"
Not really. |
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Whilst yer pondering this, can anyone really tell me what Milliband, Balls, Harman and Co actually stand for?
Their party hasn't represented the wroking person for a long time.
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Whilst yer pondering this, can anyone really tell me what Milliband, Balls, Harman and Co actually stand for?
Their party hasn't represented the wroking person for a long time.
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None of them represent the working person |
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Whilst yer pondering this, can anyone really tell me what Milliband, Balls, Harman and Co actually stand for?
Their party hasn't represented the wroking person for a long time.
None of them represent the working person"
Nor does ukip!! |
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"there is a serious reason why people don't know what ukip stand for.... because they don't have any policies except immigration (where they want to bring in the australian based "points system") and wanting out of the EU... everything else is in their own words "up in the air"
which makes it more scary that people vote for them without knowing what their views are on the ecomony for example... or health... or schools... or a million other things
The link the OP posted just sounds like every conversation I have had with UKIP supporters. One person said that it didn't matter what their policies are as they trust them to do the right thing. When I asked what the right thing is they resorted to the immigration argument. It would seem that health, defence, education, transport and everything else will be sorted because of an immigration policy.
I find it all a bit scary. I genuinely wouldn't want to live here if they came into power. A lot of people I've discussed this issue with feels the same They really cannot be any worse than the last 50 years of stealing tory bastard governments or fuck up labour ones in all honesty
Except their racist idiots that want us out of europe and people like Britain first and all those twunts will be in controllable. It will be carnage You could be talking about the tories with that statement
Not really."
OMG the Tories have been anti Europe for two decades or longer!!...they screwed their chances of governing up by arguing amongst each other whilst the best Tory ever (mr Blair) took labour to victory!! |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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Not really.OMG the Tories have been anti Europe for two decades or longer!!...they screwed their chances of governing up by arguing amongst each other whilst the best Tory ever (mr Blair) took labour to victory!! "
I agree that Anthony Blair was a very, very good Tory. Blue with a red rose. |
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Whilst yer pondering this, can anyone really tell me what Milliband, Balls, Harman and Co actually stand for?
Their party hasn't represented the wroking person for a long time.
None of them represent the working person
Nor does ukip!!"
So, who should i vote for, because the Greens sure as hell don't? |
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Whilst yer pondering this, can anyone really tell me what Milliband, Balls, Harman and Co actually stand for?
Their party hasn't represented the wroking person for a long time.
None of them represent the working person"
UKIP want to take away holiday pay, maternity pay and sick pay. They represent the working person a hell of a lot less than the others. |
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Whilst yer pondering this, can anyone really tell me what Milliband, Balls, Harman and Co actually stand for?
Their party hasn't represented the wroking person for a long time.
None of them represent the working person
UKIP want to take away holiday pay, maternity pay and sick pay. They represent the working person a hell of a lot less than the others."
Where are those policies written? I can't find them. |
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over a year ago
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Rabble-rousing, soap box standing, "here-here" snake oil salesmen of the worst kind, are already in government and opposition.
UKIP look fun.
Mr. Toad of Toad Hall for Prime Minister! |
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"Rabble-rousing, soap box standing, "here-here" snake oil salesmen of the worst kind, are already in government and opposition.
UKIP look fun.
Mr. Toad of Toad Hall for Prime Minister!"
Didn't Mr Toad fail spectacularly as PM after a total fuck up of being "the world's best" Chancellor? |
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"Rabble-rousing, soap box standing, "here-here" snake oil salesmen of the worst kind, are already in government and opposition.
UKIP look fun.
Mr. Toad of Toad Hall for Prime Minister!
Didn't Mr Toad fail spectacularly as PM after a total fuck up of being "the world's best" Chancellor? "
...wasnt his fault, there's too many damn weasels... weasels, weasels. Of course, there are ermin too, but they are stoat-ally different... |
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I'll give an example if I may?
After the 2012 local elections, UKIP's City spokesman was interviewed on TV.
He was asked why UKIP had changed their immigration policy from allowing 50,000 immigrants into the country to 100,000 immigrants per year.
His direct answer (I was glad he was clear and direct) was that after party leaders of UKIP had met with heads of British businesses, business had made it clear that 50,000 immigrants was not enough to keep a steady supply of employees in a buoyant market for employers.
So UKIP changed their immigration numbers to double the previous figure, to 100,000 on the back of the demands of big business.
Now why would they do this? Considering how they often talk about too much job competition coming from immigrants it was very strange indeed.
That is not opinion, that is fact, I can try to source the clip if anyone wants to dispute it. |
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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago
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History and life experience tells us that bitching about "them" makes you far more popular than loving them.
Promoting division and blame is always going to be more popular than being pragmatic and logical and this is the strength of UKIP.
The reality is that we have not had vis a requirements with Europe for 40/50 years and no matter if we are in or out of Europe visas will not be coming back if we are planning to keep close trading associations with our near neighbours. I worked for five years in Greece and Spain pre EU and there will still be movement in Europe whether we are in and out. As for illegal immigrants - this is irrelevant UKIP or otherwise because illegal immigrants tend not to care what is illegal and what is not and the last I heard, Farage was not planning to man the cliffs of Dover with machine guns. |
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Good job Scotland didn't leave the union then ain't it. UKIP indeed.
It wouldn't do for a mainstream political party to mislead us electorate now would it?
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No-one will read the manifesto.
Nigel Farage has a dossier on the back of a beermat.
We're fucked. We're fucked.
Know why?
Its an emotive vote only.
Farage and Boris are geniuses at looking like bumbling fools. Cameron will be out. Farage and Johnson, super rightwing Britain making life hell for froggies and woggies.
God Help Us! |
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"No-one will read the manifesto.
Nigel Farage has a dossier on the back of a beermat.
We're fucked. We're fucked.
Know why?
Its an emotive vote only.
Farage and Boris are geniuses at looking like bumbling fools. Cameron will be out. Farage and Johnson, super rightwing Britain making life hell for froggies and woggies.
God Help Us!"
Did you really just say froggies?
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"History and life experience tells us that bitching about "them" makes you far more popular than loving them.
Promoting division and blame is always going to be more popular than being pragmatic and logical and this is the strength of UKIP.
The reality is that we have not had vis a requirements with Europe for 40/50 years and no matter if we are in or out of Europe visas will not be coming back if we are planning to keep close trading associations with our near neighbours. I worked for five years in Greece and Spain pre EU and there will still be movement in Europe whether we are in and out. As for illegal immigrants - this is irrelevant UKIP or otherwise because illegal immigrants tend not to care what is illegal and what is not and the last I heard, Farage was not planning to man the cliffs of Dover with machine guns."
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"there is a serious reason why people don't know what ukip stand for.... because they don't have any policies except immigration (where they want to bring in the australian based "points system") and wanting out of the EU... everything else is in their own words "up in the air"
which makes it more scary that people vote for them without knowing what their views are on the ecomony for example... or health... or schools... or a million other things
The link the OP posted just sounds like every conversation I have had with UKIP supporters. One person said that it didn't matter what their policies are as they trust them to do the right thing. When I asked what the right thing is they resorted to the immigration argument. It would seem that health, defence, education, transport and everything else will be sorted because of an immigration policy.
I find it all a bit scary. I genuinely wouldn't want to live here if they came into power. A lot of people I've discussed this issue with feels the same They really cannot be any worse than the last 50 years of stealing tory bastard governments or fuck up labour ones in all honesty
Except their racist idiots that want us out of europe and people like Britain first and all those twunts will be in controllable. It will be carnage "
Why is it racist to want out of EU/europe?
If you look at the results of the european elections all over europe you will find anti EU parties are on the rise and gaining more share of the vote everywhere in europe, not just Britain. |
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"there is a serious reason why people don't know what ukip stand for.... because they don't have any policies except immigration (where they want to bring in the australian based "points system") and wanting out of the EU... everything else is in their own words "up in the air"
which makes it more scary that people vote for them without knowing what their views are on the ecomony for example... or health... or schools... or a million other things
The link the OP posted just sounds like every conversation I have had with UKIP supporters. One person said that it didn't matter what their policies are as they trust them to do the right thing. When I asked what the right thing is they resorted to the immigration argument. It would seem that health, defence, education, transport and everything else will be sorted because of an immigration policy.
I find it all a bit scary. I genuinely wouldn't want to live here if they came into power. A lot of people I've discussed this issue with feels the same They really cannot be any worse than the last 50 years of stealing tory bastard governments or fuck up labour ones in all honesty
Except their racist idiots that want us out of europe and people like Britain first and all those twunts will be in controllable. It will be carnage
Why is it racist to want out of EU/europe?
If you look at the results of the european elections all over europe you will find anti EU parties are on the rise and gaining more share of the vote everywhere in europe, not just Britain. "
Its not racist but people love to wield the racist stick if they can as it has the biggest spikes.  |
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"there is a serious reason why people don't know what ukip stand for.... because they don't have any policies except immigration (where they want to bring in the australian based "points system") and wanting out of the EU... everything else is in their own words "up in the air"
which makes it more scary that people vote for them without knowing what their views are on the ecomony for example... or health... or schools... or a million other things
The link the OP posted just sounds like every conversation I have had with UKIP supporters. One person said that it didn't matter what their policies are as they trust them to do the right thing. When I asked what the right thing is they resorted to the immigration argument. It would seem that health, defence, education, transport and everything else will be sorted because of an immigration policy.
I find it all a bit scary. I genuinely wouldn't want to live here if they came into power. A lot of people I've discussed this issue with feels the same They really cannot be any worse than the last 50 years of stealing tory bastard governments or fuck up labour ones in all honesty
Except their racist idiots that want us out of europe and people like Britain first and all those twunts will be in controllable. It will be carnage
Why is it racist to want out of EU/europe?
If you look at the results of the european elections all over europe you will find anti EU parties are on the rise and gaining more share of the vote everywhere in europe, not just Britain.
Its not racist but people love to wield the racist stick if they can as it has the biggest spikes. "
Just getting really fed up with the name calling on here.  |
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Why don't the UKIP party just state they are the UKIPP. Preference Party.
Or rename themselves UKIP Rebels or Freedom Fighters. That way they'd get US and UK arms to bring down the government. That should work. |
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"there is a serious reason why people don't know what ukip stand for.... because they don't have any policies except immigration (where they want to bring in the australian based "points system") and wanting out of the EU... everything else is in their own words "up in the air"
which makes it more scary that people vote for them without knowing what their views are on the ecomony for example... or health... or schools... or a million other things
The link the OP posted just sounds like every conversation I have had with UKIP supporters. One person said that it didn't matter what their policies are as they trust them to do the right thing. When I asked what the right thing is they resorted to the immigration argument. It would seem that health, defence, education, transport and everything else will be sorted because of an immigration policy.
I find it all a bit scary. I genuinely wouldn't want to live here if they came into power. A lot of people I've discussed this issue with feels the same They really cannot be any worse than the last 50 years of stealing tory bastard governments or fuck up labour ones in all honesty
Except their racist idiots that want us out of europe and people like Britain first and all those twunts will be in controllable. It will be carnage
Why is it racist to want out of EU/europe?
If you look at the results of the european elections all over europe you will find anti EU parties are on the rise and gaining more share of the vote everywhere in europe, not just Britain.
Its not racist but people love to wield the racist stick if they can as it has the biggest spikes.
Just getting really fed up with the name calling on here. "
Its getting a bit monotonous you get people who don't like something so choose the biggest club they can to hammer their point across. I just have to smile at all the UKIP rhetoric as the biggest support this end is from the affluent Asians and the ones with their own businesses. I guess someone should tell them them they shouldn't support them. |
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"there is a serious reason why people don't know what ukip stand for.... because they don't have any policies except immigration (where they want to bring in the australian based "points system") and wanting out of the EU... everything else is in their own words "up in the air"
which makes it more scary that people vote for them without knowing what their views are on the ecomony for example... or health... or schools... or a million other things
The link the OP posted just sounds like every conversation I have had with UKIP supporters. One person said that it didn't matter what their policies are as they trust them to do the right thing. When I asked what the right thing is they resorted to the immigration argument. It would seem that health, defence, education, transport and everything else will be sorted because of an immigration policy.
I find it all a bit scary. I genuinely wouldn't want to live here if they came into power. A lot of people I've discussed this issue with feels the same They really cannot be any worse than the last 50 years of stealing tory bastard governments or fuck up labour ones in all honesty
Except their racist idiots that want us out of europe and people like Britain first and all those twunts will be in controllable. It will be carnage
Why is it racist to want out of EU/europe?
If you look at the results of the european elections all over europe you will find anti EU parties are on the rise and gaining more share of the vote everywhere in europe, not just Britain. "
It may not be racist to want out of Europe but it is incredibly misleading to suggest that by being out of Europe all of our problems will be solved. Getting out of Europe will not mean that we have to go back to having cleaning staff that turn up when they want and builders who only turn up after 10am. If we want to be part of any trading association with our near neighbours then we live with and accept free movement of people - in or out of the EU.
The anti EU is simply misleading and as with most UKIP messages, an attempt to deliver a simple solution to simple people when in fact the issue is far more deep rooted than The simple solution would suggest. |
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It will be funny to see the right wing try to say business won't be affected if we leave the EU, despite the fact that they cried Armageddon to Scotland if it decided to leave the UK.
Obviously 'Better Together' is a pick and choose state of mind!
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"there is a serious reason why people don't know what ukip stand for.... because they don't have any policies except immigration (where they want to bring in the australian based "points system") and wanting out of the EU... everything else is in their own words "up in the air"
which makes it more scary that people vote for them without knowing what their views are on the ecomony for example... or health... or schools... or a million other things
The link the OP posted just sounds like every conversation I have had with UKIP supporters. One person said that it didn't matter what their policies are as they trust them to do the right thing. When I asked what the right thing is they resorted to the immigration argument. It would seem that health, defence, education, transport and everything else will be sorted because of an immigration policy.
I find it all a bit scary. I genuinely wouldn't want to live here if they came into power. A lot of people I've discussed this issue with feels the same They really cannot be any worse than the last 50 years of stealing tory bastard governments or fuck up labour ones in all honesty
Except their racist idiots that want us out of europe and people like Britain first and all those twunts will be in controllable. It will be carnage
Why is it racist to want out of EU/europe?
If you look at the results of the european elections all over europe you will find anti EU parties are on the rise and gaining more share of the vote everywhere in europe, not just Britain.
It may not be racist to want out of Europe but it is incredibly misleading to suggest that by being out of Europe all of our problems will be solved. Getting out of Europe will not mean that we have to go back to having cleaning staff that turn up when they want and builders who only turn up after 10am. If we want to be part of any trading association with our near neighbours then we live with and accept free movement of people - in or out of the EU.
The anti EU is simply misleading and as with most UKIP messages, an attempt to deliver a simple solution to simple people when in fact the issue is far more deep rooted than The simple solution would suggest."
Errm, i'm an english builder and i always turn up to work before 10am. Listing stereotypes like the ones you just did really does'nt help. If people bothered to look at other UKIP policies besides wanting controlled immigration and leaving the EU, they may agree with other things, such as scrapping HS2 and nationalising toll roads instead such as the M6 Toll. |
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"there is a serious reason why people don't know what ukip stand for.... because they don't have any policies except immigration (where they want to bring in the australian based "points system") and wanting out of the EU... everything else is in their own words "up in the air"
which makes it more scary that people vote for them without knowing what their views are on the ecomony for example... or health... or schools... or a million other things
The link the OP posted just sounds like every conversation I have had with UKIP supporters. One person said that it didn't matter what their policies are as they trust them to do the right thing. When I asked what the right thing is they resorted to the immigration argument. It would seem that health, defence, education, transport and everything else will be sorted because of an immigration policy.
I find it all a bit scary. I genuinely wouldn't want to live here if they came into power. A lot of people I've discussed this issue with feels the same They really cannot be any worse than the last 50 years of stealing tory bastard governments or fuck up labour ones in all honesty
Except their racist idiots that want us out of europe and people like Britain first and all those twunts will be in controllable. It will be carnage
Why is it racist to want out of EU/europe?
If you look at the results of the european elections all over europe you will find anti EU parties are on the rise and gaining more share of the vote everywhere in europe, not just Britain.
It may not be racist to want out of Europe but it is incredibly misleading to suggest that by being out of Europe all of our problems will be solved. Getting out of Europe will not mean that we have to go back to having cleaning staff that turn up when they want and builders who only turn up after 10am. If we want to be part of any trading association with our near neighbours then we live with and accept free movement of people - in or out of the EU.
The anti EU is simply misleading and as with most UKIP messages, an attempt to deliver a simple solution to simple people when in fact the issue is far more deep rooted than The simple solution would suggest."
Builders have always been on the job early granted they could earn more then but there were less cowboy jobs done by slap it up merchants as people had a pride in their work so that one is a pile of piss. As for cleaning staff well pre migration the the UK cleaning stall had a pretty hard time as the majority were in service so that one goes down the urinal too. No being out of Europe won't solve things but it will stop Brussels force legislation that is good for Europe but less good for the UK and with border control we might actually be able to raise wages at the bottom end and get many of the disillusioned youth here into work. |
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"there is a serious reason why people don't know what ukip stand for.... because they don't have any policies except immigration (where they want to bring in the australian based "points system") and wanting out of the EU... everything else is in their own words "up in the air"
which makes it more scary that people vote for them without knowing what their views are on the ecomony for example... or health... or schools... or a million other things
The link the OP posted just sounds like every conversation I have had with UKIP supporters. One person said that it didn't matter what their policies are as they trust them to do the right thing. When I asked what the right thing is they resorted to the immigration argument. It would seem that health, defence, education, transport and everything else will be sorted because of an immigration policy.
I find it all a bit scary. I genuinely wouldn't want to live here if they came into power. A lot of people I've discussed this issue with feels the same They really cannot be any worse than the last 50 years of stealing tory bastard governments or fuck up labour ones in all honesty
Except their racist idiots that want us out of europe and people like Britain first and all those twunts will be in controllable. It will be carnage
Why is it racist to want out of EU/europe?
If you look at the results of the european elections all over europe you will find anti EU parties are on the rise and gaining more share of the vote everywhere in europe, not just Britain.
Its not racist but people love to wield the racist stick if they can as it has the biggest spikes.
Just getting really fed up with the name calling on here.
Its getting a bit monotonous you get people who don't like something so choose the biggest club they can to hammer their point across. I just have to smile at all the UKIP rhetoric as the biggest support this end is from the affluent Asians and the ones with their own businesses. I guess someone should tell them them they shouldn't support them. "
And why can't I use 'my biggest club'? Sorry I don't agree with you but there's no need to be patronising. People feel strongly about different things and racism is something I feel strongly about. People can support who they like but don't try and belittle me just because I don't agree with you. Or am I just a 'slut'? Maybe the old boys in ukip would prefer if the little ladies lost the right to vote |
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"Maybe the old boys in ukip would prefer if the little ladies lost the right to vote"
They do what to bring back 'traditional' values, so who knows?
Wouldn't surprise me if they bring back chemical castration for gay people too. |
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"there is a serious reason why people don't know what ukip stand for.... because they don't have any policies except immigration (where they want to bring in the australian based "points system") and wanting out of the EU... everything else is in their own words "up in the air"
which makes it more scary that people vote for them without knowing what their views are on the ecomony for example... or health... or schools... or a million other things
The link the OP posted just sounds like every conversation I have had with UKIP supporters. One person said that it didn't matter what their policies are as they trust them to do the right thing. When I asked what the right thing is they resorted to the immigration argument. It would seem that health, defence, education, transport and everything else will be sorted because of an immigration policy.
I find it all a bit scary. I genuinely wouldn't want to live here if they came into power. A lot of people I've discussed this issue with feels the same They really cannot be any worse than the last 50 years of stealing tory bastard governments or fuck up labour ones in all honesty
Except their racist idiots that want us out of europe and people like Britain first and all those twunts will be in controllable. It will be carnage
Why is it racist to want out of EU/europe?
If you look at the results of the european elections all over europe you will find anti EU parties are on the rise and gaining more share of the vote everywhere in europe, not just Britain.
Its not racist but people love to wield the racist stick if they can as it has the biggest spikes.
Just getting really fed up with the name calling on here.
Its getting a bit monotonous you get people who don't like something so choose the biggest club they can to hammer their point across. I just have to smile at all the UKIP rhetoric as the biggest support this end is from the affluent Asians and the ones with their own businesses. I guess someone should tell them them they shouldn't support them.
And why can't I use 'my biggest club'? Sorry I don't agree with you but there's no need to be patronising. People feel strongly about different things and racism is something I feel strongly about. People can support who they like but don't try and belittle me just because I don't agree with you. Or am I just a 'slut'? Maybe the old boys in ukip would prefer if the little ladies lost the right to vote"
You can't because its not true and you are cynically trying to make a square page fit in a round hole. And now you are using your patronising stick! If you spout crap be prepared to have it pointed out!   |
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"Maybe the old boys in ukip would prefer if the little ladies lost the right to vote
They do what to bring back 'traditional' values, so who knows?
Wouldn't surprise me if they bring back chemical castration for gay people too. "
Get in the real world for fucks sake next you will be saying they are going to kill everyone over 70 and force the unemployed to clean the roads with tooth brushes. If you are going to scaremonger make it credible at least. |
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"there is a serious reason why people don't know what ukip stand for.... because they don't have any policies except immigration (where they want to bring in the australian based "points system") and wanting out of the EU... everything else is in their own words "up in the air"
which makes it more scary that people vote for them without knowing what their views are on the ecomony for example... or health... or schools... or a million other things
The link the OP posted just sounds like every conversation I have had with UKIP supporters. One person said that it didn't matter what their policies are as they trust them to do the right thing. When I asked what the right thing is they resorted to the immigration argument. It would seem that health, defence, education, transport and everything else will be sorted because of an immigration policy.
I find it all a bit scary. I genuinely wouldn't want to live here if they came into power. A lot of people I've discussed this issue with feels the same They really cannot be any worse than the last 50 years of stealing tory bastard governments or fuck up labour ones in all honesty
Except their racist idiots that want us out of europe and people like Britain first and all those twunts will be in controllable. It will be carnage
Why is it racist to want out of EU/europe?
If you look at the results of the european elections all over europe you will find anti EU parties are on the rise and gaining more share of the vote everywhere in europe, not just Britain.
Its not racist but people love to wield the racist stick if they can as it has the biggest spikes.
Just getting really fed up with the name calling on here.
Its getting a bit monotonous you get people who don't like something so choose the biggest club they can to hammer their point across. I just have to smile at all the UKIP rhetoric as the biggest support this end is from the affluent Asians and the ones with their own businesses. I guess someone should tell them them they shouldn't support them.
And why can't I use 'my biggest club'? Sorry I don't agree with you but there's no need to be patronising. People feel strongly about different things and racism is something I feel strongly about. People can support who they like but don't try and belittle me just because I don't agree with you. Or am I just a 'slut'? Maybe the old boys in ukip would prefer if the little ladies lost the right to vote
You can't because its not true and you are cynically trying to make a square page fit in a round hole. And now you are using your patronising stick! If you spout crap be prepared to have it pointed out! "
And if you can't have a mature discussion about something without dismissing everything you don't agree with as crap then don't expect anyone to take you and your views seriously. Just saying. But of course that will be crap too of course. |
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"They stand for the common man, the underdog, every crying little child, every working single mother.
They stand for freedom (cue a stirring anthem), Hope, Liberty, the ability to stand up and say 'no Europe, I dont think so sonny!'.
The stand for great British values, HP sauce, bacon rolls and lawn bowls....they stand for you! (Anthem climax).
.....actually I'm not sure what ukip stands for "
Lol - they're far right Tory's so, they stand for the complete opposite of what you just said - apart from the EU bit!! |
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Not sure if they still stand for this, or if it's old forgotten policies but there was talk of a flat income tax rate of 31% , building more prisons to cater for approximately double the current prison population, increasing the armed forces and building more battle ships, and of course pulling out of Europe.
Not sure I want any of that. |
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"UKIP = Fascist, right wingers, xenophobic, uneducated and illiterate.
opinions opinions"
I've followed orders and have brought your comment to the forefront from the private messaging. Over to you as to why you think my comment is an opinion. |
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"Not sure if they still stand for this, or if it's old forgotten policies but there was talk of a flat income tax rate of 31% , building more prisons to cater for approximately double the current prison population, increasing the armed forces and building more battle ships, and of course pulling out of Europe.
Not sure I want any of that."
That sounds something like I would expect, tbh, - ukip = even bigger bastard Tory's, & the saddest thing as things stand is, they'll probably hold the balance of power - guess who they'll side with???????  |
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By *oo hotCouple
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"UKIP = Fascist, right wingers, xenophobic, uneducated and illiterate.
opinions opinions
I've followed orders and have brought your comment to the forefront from the private messaging. Over to you as to why you think my comment is an opinion."
Being a pedant, surely it is obvious that your comment is in fact your opinion?  |
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"UKIP = Fascist, right wingers, xenophobic, uneducated and illiterate.
opinions opinions
I've followed orders and have brought your comment to the forefront from the private messaging. Over to you as to why you think my comment is an opinion.
Being a pedant, surely it is obvious that your comment is in fact your opinion? "
You're absolutely right...It is a comment purely based on my opinion of what I am observing. They are a bunch of radical nationalists with little moustaches. The future is created by the past. |
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By *WcplCouple
over a year ago
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UKIP were devised by the conservative party, knowing that once they were in power and the took away any chance if a decent life for hard working folk whilst giving the millionaires tax breaks to further increase their wealth, the Country would turn against them and look for an alternative vote. That alternative vote historically be Labour or the Lib Dems. As the CONDEM coslition as desimated the Country, nobody will go there again ... So enter UKIP, the new partners in crime to form a coaltion in 2015.... We are all doomed |
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"there is a serious reason why people don't know what ukip stand for.... because they don't have any policies except immigration (where they want to bring in the australian based "points system") and wanting out of the EU... everything else is in their own words "up in the air"
which makes it more scary that people vote for them without knowing what their views are on the ecomony for example... or health... or schools... or a million other things
The link the OP posted just sounds like every conversation I have had with UKIP supporters. One person said that it didn't matter what their policies are as they trust them to do the right thing. When I asked what the right thing is they resorted to the immigration argument. It would seem that health, defence, education, transport and everything else will be sorted because of an immigration policy.
I find it all a bit scary. I genuinely wouldn't want to live here if they came into power. A lot of people I've discussed this issue with feels the same They really cannot be any worse than the last 50 years of stealing tory bastard governments or fuck up labour ones in all honesty
Except their racist idiots that want us out of europe and people like Britain first and all those twunts will be in controllable. It will be carnage
Why is it racist to want out of EU/europe?
If you look at the results of the european elections all over europe you will find anti EU parties are on the rise and gaining more share of the vote everywhere in europe, not just Britain. "
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By *oo hotCouple
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"UKIP were devised by the conservative party, knowing that once they were in power and the took away any chance if a decent life for hard working folk whilst giving the millionaires tax breaks to further increase their wealth, the Country would turn against them and look for an alternative vote. That alternative vote historically be Labour or the Lib Dems. As the CONDEM coslition as desimated the Country, nobody will go there again ... So enter UKIP, the new partners in crime to form a coaltion in 2015.... We are all doomed"
That is one hell of a conspiracy theory and a great deal of generalisation. The conservatives would always be my choice to vote - just on general principles but UKIP are not my cup of tea at all.
Conservative philosophy is supposed to be about smaller government, lower taxes and more freedoms and opportunities to look after yourself. Socialist philosophy is more about big government, higher taxes and more spending. I prefer the former as a general philosophy but I do not at all believe in UKIP division rhetoric. |
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They had a range of strong policies which were recently abandoned including;
Making sure the circle line was circle again
Opt in sex education and
Abolishing statutory maternity pay
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After todays news its clear what the Labour party stand for. The Labour party are saying they will boycott talks about proposed english votes for english laws, so shows they are more concerned with the party interest rather than fairness in our political system. Why should scottish MP's be voting on english matters when english MP's can't vote on Scottish matters in the scottish parliament?
Miliband and the Labour party treat the english electorate with contempt, hope this will lead to more people realising what Labour are about and decide not to vote for them in future. They are putting the party interest before the interest of the english people. |
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"No-one will read the manifesto.
Nigel Farage has a dossier on the back of a beermat.
We're fucked. We're fucked.
Know why?
Its an emotive vote only.
Farage and Boris are geniuses at looking like bumbling fools. Cameron will be out. Farage and Johnson, super rightwing Britain making life hell for froggies and woggies.
God Help Us!
Did you really just say froggies?
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In a satirical context, taking the kind of UKIP jolly hockey sticks, Daily Express colonial world view from the 1950s... |
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Whilst yer pondering this, can anyone really tell me what Milliband, Balls, Harman and Co actually stand for?
Their party hasn't represented the wroking person for a long time.
None of them represent the working person
UKIP want to take away holiday pay, maternity pay and sick pay. They represent the working person a hell of a lot less than the others."
I find that hard to believe...didnt read that in the sun did you? |
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"After todays news its clear what the Labour party stand for. The Labour party are saying they will boycott talks about proposed english votes for english laws, so shows they are more concerned with the party interest rather than fairness in our political system. Why should scottish MP's be voting on english matters when english MP's can't vote on Scottish matters in the scottish parliament?
Miliband and the Labour party treat the english electorate with contempt, hope this will lead to more people realising what Labour are about and decide not to vote for them in future. They are putting the party interest before the interest of the english people."
Still sitting, still watching, still smiling |
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"UKIP = Fascist, right wingers, xenophobic, uneducated and illiterate.
opinions opinions
I've followed orders and have brought your comment to the forefront from the private messaging. Over to you as to why you think my comment is an opinion."
Because it is your opinion thats why,its not my opinion which is why i stated opinions opinions!,I did not want to have to deal with you through my inbox!!!! you know with work and all that.
Where does it say they are Fascist uneducated and Illiterate ? as im sure most of the ukip mps are none of those so therefore opinions opinions!! |
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"It stands for UK's Idiotic Pricks
No thats the SNP."
Or the simpletons nationalist party.....now if your talking racist theres a party to highlight as they absolutely despise the English and 45 per cent of our kilted cousins voted for them with no currency and no bloody policies except the idea of oil money |
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Whilst yer pondering this, can anyone really tell me what Milliband, Balls, Harman and Co actually stand for?
Their party hasn't represented the wroking person for a long time.
None of them represent the working person
UKIP want to take away holiday pay, maternity pay and sick pay. They represent the working person a hell of a lot less than the others.I find that hard to believe...didnt read that in the sun did you? "
Like it or not UKIP are further to the right than the conservatives and therefore will naturally adopt more right wing policies than socialist lovey dovey policies.
You can realistically expect greater austerity, more cuts to government and more freedoms for business. Whether that translates into the specifics mentioned is another matter but broadly the philosophy is more right wing than the conservatives. |
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"It stands for UK's Idiotic Pricks
No thats the SNP. Or the simpletons nationalist party.....now if your talking racist theres a party to highlight as they absolutely despise the English and 45 per cent of our kilted cousins voted for them with no currency and no bloody policies except the idea of oil money"
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"It stands for UK's Idiotic Pricks
No thats the SNP. Or the simpletons nationalist party.....now if your talking racist theres a party to highlight as they absolutely despise the English and 45 per cent of our kilted cousins voted for them with no currency and no bloody policies except the idea of oil money
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Fascinating thread. Put Farage into all the pre-election televised debates, let him face the scrutiny on his manifesto and answer the questions of the great British public. And then let people decide for themselves. It is what I think people refer to as democracy  |
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"Fascinating thread. Put Farage into all the pre-election televised debates, let him face the scrutiny on his manifesto and answer the questions of the great British public. And then let people decide for themselves. It is what I think people refer to as democracy "
Farage beat Clegg in the televised debates they had so i would love to see Farage in the televised debates before the general election. |
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"Fascinating thread. Put Farage into all the pre-election televised debates, let him face the scrutiny on his manifesto and answer the questions of the great British public. And then let people decide for themselves. It is what I think people refer to as democracy
Farage beat Clegg in the televised debates they had so i would love to see Farage in the televised debates before the general election. "
Will be interesting to see how he performs when he has to discuss a broader range of policies which will be required in a general election debate. |
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