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By *ig bad OP Man
over a year ago
Up North :-) |
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20100720/tuk-man-accidentally-shot-with-taser-6323e80.html
Peter Cox, 49, is seeking legal advice over the incident which started when he was stopped on suspicion of driving a BMW without insurance.
He spotted a patrol car following him and pulled over at his friend's house in Bridgwater, Somerset, where he was doing landscaping work on July 13.
The officer pointed the Taser at him for a few seconds before lowering the weapon.
At this point, it discharged, hitting the father-of-one's groin and ankle.
Unemployed Mr Cox, who suffers from Guillain Barri syndrome, fell to the ground in agony and he was treated by paramedics on the front lawn.
He denied being aggressive and said the insurance company confirmed the car had valid insurance immediately after he was stopped.
An Avon and Somerset Police spokesman said the weapon was discharged by accident and that an investigation was under way.
Now to me that sounds like a Bobby wanting to try his new toy out! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Why can't something like that happen to me...
I've got a car battery and jump leads if you want ya nuts zapping."
Yes, but you don't have zillions of quids like the good ole British Taxpayer do you!! |
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"Why can't something like that happen to me...
I've got a car battery and jump leads if you want ya nuts zapping.
Yes, but you don't have zillions of quids like the good ole British Taxpayer do you!! "
Ahhhhhhh, but I have thought of that... does the car battery or jump leads carry a warning that they are not to be used for zapping the danglies? I think not.... so where there's blame there's a claim |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"At this point, it discharged, hitting the father-of-one's groin and ankle.
groin...ankle.
???
Either he's 2 foot tall, or got into a Yoga position as soon as he got out of the car!"
I often get out of the car in the lotus position |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"At this point, it discharged, hitting the father-of-one's groin and ankle.
groin...ankle.
???
Either he's 2 foot tall, or got into a Yoga position as soon as he got out of the car!
I often get out of the car in the lotus position "
And sometimes you don't even bother getting out the car. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"At this point, it discharged, hitting the father-of-one's groin and ankle.
groin...ankle.
???
Either he's 2 foot tall, or got into a Yoga position as soon as he got out of the car!
I often get out of the car in the lotus position
And sometimes you don't even bother getting out the car. "
Boom tish |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Peter Cox, 49, is seeking legal advice .... driving a BMW
his friend's house .... where he was doing landscaping work
Unemployed Mr Cox...
DWP also taking legal advice, one hopes!"
Why, quite a presumptuous statement there. |
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By *harpDressed ManMan
over a year ago
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"Why, quite a presumptuous statement there. "
What, unemployed people working? All I suggested was that there'll be a check.
(I'll grant you the BMW angle in the absence of further info, though...) |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Why, quite a presumptuous statement there.
What, unemployed people working? All I suggested was that there'll be a check.
(I'll grant you the BMW angle in the absence of further info, though...)"
It says unemployed, not benefit claiming.
He could be retired or well off enough to not claim which is all legal and above board. |
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By *harpDressed ManMan
over a year ago
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"Why, quite a presumptuous statement there.
What, unemployed people working? All I suggested was that there'll be a check.
(I'll grant you the BMW angle in the absence of further info, though...)
It says unemployed, not benefit claiming.
He could be retired or well off enough to not claim which is all legal and above board."
Point taken. |
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"At this point, it discharged, hitting the father-of-one's groin and ankle.
groin...ankle.
???
Either he's 2 foot tall, or got into a Yoga position as soon as he got out of the car!
I often get out of the car in the lotus position "
when i borrow my dads MR2 i virtually have to roll out - i'm such a graceful creature |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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your allowed to work up to and including 15 hours a week whilst claiming benifits as long as you declare it. be more for the pleasure than anything else though. |
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By *b430Man
over a year ago
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"At this point, it discharged, hitting the father-of-one's groin and ankle.
groin...ankle.
???
Either he's 2 foot tall, or got into a Yoga position as soon as he got out of the car!"
A taser fires out 2 separate probes connected back to the taser gun with separate wires.
So it is possible for one of them to hit his groin and the other to hit his ankle. |
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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago
glasgow |
"Yep..try throwing a ball at a copper and then saying sorry it was an accident...YOUR NICKED MY SON!
Why do you carry around balls to throw at the police?
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its the secret policemans ball. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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never usually respond to these, but feel the need to, working for the police, you never know the full story, there is always a lot more to it, believe me, he wont of just been stood there like butter wouldnt melt!!! And who would be the first people you would ring if you were in trouble, dont expect you would slag them of then!!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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this has really rilled me, if you only knew the pressures, you wouldnt believe it, we work with minimum or under all the time, where is the safety in that!!!
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"And who would be the first people you would ring if you were in trouble, dont expect you would slag them of then!!!
Depends how quickly they turn up...
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If at all.
This story does illustrate that the trigger happy power mad police should not be armed as standard. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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there not, not every officer is, they go under weeks of training but told in the end to use what they have got if they feel in danger, like i said before he will not of just been standing there, i know from experience |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"there not, not every officer is, they go under weeks of training but told in the end to use what they have got if they feel in danger, like i said before he will not of just been standing there, i know from experience"
Nor should they ever be as this story illustrates. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"there not, not every officer is, they go under weeks of training but told in the end to use what they have got if they feel in danger, like i said before he will not of just been standing there, i know from experience"
They have said it went off accidentally though |
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By *harpDressed ManMan
over a year ago
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"this has really rilled me, if you only knew the pressures, you wouldnt believe it, we work with minimum or under all the time, where is the safety in that!!!
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Where's the safety in being beaten up by a customer at 5pm in front of dozens of witnesses?
I *KNOW* that individual police officers have a difficult job...but as a group, when I've needed them...they've been useless.
So you'll have to forgive me for not getting too worked up about the pressure they're under... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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fair enough, but if you feel like that dont call them, there's more deserving people who need them and who actually need them, you wouldnt believe the crap we are called out to, thats is tying up the time for the people that genuinly need them, only human, only so many hours in a day, do it cos want to make a difference, when quite frankly its impossible. sorry if going on, but close to my heart |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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personal experience of police.
read in local paper excuses why they cant attend call outs, under staffed etc.
get present and go round to show them my driving license, 4 or 5 of them sat round in front of computers doing sweet fa and that was the view from the counter, god only knows how many there were out of view.
not impressed. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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here i go again, firstly are you sure they were actually officers and not police staff, and if were officers, you would not believe the amount of paperwork thats involved, and admittely thats been looked at. you dont get breaks, you can be kept on without any notice, working a 14 hour shift is not unusual, you have no social life. Think i better shut up now |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"here i go again, firstly are you sure they were actually officers and not police staff, and if were officers, you would not believe the amount of paperwork thats involved, and admittely thats been looked at. you dont get breaks, you can be kept on without any notice, working a 14 hour shift is not unusual, you have no social life. Think i better shut up now"
Sends you a huge (((((hug))))) I think they do a great job under extreme circumstances and you have my utmost respect |
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And who would be the first people you would ring if you were in trouble,
Only because its illegal to take the law into your own hands...otherwise they smack head who burlged my daughter wouldnt be walking anymore!
I even found the guy when they were still looking for him..but I left it in their hands and lo and behold...he got away with it..
I admire the ol bill they do indeed do a very difficult and thankless..nasty job too if your in big cities....I certainly couldnt do it..but dont give it the 'we are perfect/never do anything wrong routine'...I dont know about percentages..but id hazard a guess that 95% of coppers are decent and competent..the others give you a bad name...its up to you lot to deal with them from within and shop them. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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yes cos its not like that in every profession!!! absolutly there is always a element which is wrong, which drags everybody else down, but dont drag down the people who care and do do a good job, where would we be without the police!!! and as for not going anywhere thats not the police thats the cps, trust me we would convict everybody thats done wrong. I really will shut up now |
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"here i go again, firstly are you sure they were actually officers and not police staff, and if were officers, you would not believe the amount of paperwork thats involved, and admittely thats been looked at. you dont get breaks, you can be kept on without any notice, working a 14 hour shift is not unusual, you have no social life. Think i better shut up now"
Do us a favour ...its a well paid job..no social life?..I now plenty of serving officers (friends and relations) they certainly do have a social life, no breaks?...14 hour shifts?..all for 30k a year...
Accept that most of us here and the majority of the general public have the upmost respect for the police..I have never bene in trouble, and have always helped them, always will..but please spare us the hard done by stuff..
You must have heard the phrase 'they are only human after all'...well that sums it up..they wouldnt do a job like that if they wasnt.
Glam you need to chill a bit...you cant defend who whole of the UK's police force...personally im glad their are people like you out there who are passionate and consciencious...but slow down mrs your going to be heading for a breakdown..just carry on doing your job well..thats all you can do..x |
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By *b430Man
over a year ago
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"here i go again, firstly are you sure they were actually officers and not police staff, and if were officers, you would not believe the amount of paperwork thats involved, and admittely thats been looked at. you dont get breaks, you can be kept on without any notice, working a 14 hour shift is not unusual, you have no social life. Think i better shut up now
Do us a favour ...its a well paid job..no social life?..I now plenty of serving officers (friends and relations) they certainly do have a social life, no breaks?...14 hour shifts?..all for 30k a year...
Accept that most of us here and the majority of the general public have the upmost respect for the police..I have never bene in trouble, and have always helped them, always will..but please spare us the hard done by stuff..
You must have heard the phrase 'they are only human after all'...well that sums it up..they wouldnt do a job like that if they wasnt.
Glam you need to chill a bit...you cant defend who whole of the UK's police force...personally im glad their are people like you out there who are passionate and consciencious...but slow down mrs your going to be heading for a breakdown..just carry on doing your job well..thats all you can do..x"
She may not be the only one that needs to chill! (smiley didn't work in last version) |
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By *harpDressed ManMan
over a year ago
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"fair enough, but if you feel like that dont call them, there's more deserving people who need them and who actually need them, "
1. I didn't call them, one of my staff did
2. Of course I fuckin needed them! I was getting beaten up by two druggies!
3. Who the fuck do you suggest I called?
As stated, I respect the individuals, but as a force, it's failing. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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really dont need to be patronised!!!, and trust me i am chilled but pisses me off people who slag the police but wouldnt think twice in calling them, yes there is a social life, bloody deserved, the majority of officers do the job cos they do care, but like any walk in life there is the minority that lets everybody else down, but to be slagged off cos you've had one bad experience doesnt put faith into the ones that actually care!!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"fair enough, but if you feel like that dont call them, there's more deserving people who need them and who actually need them,
1. I didn't call them, one of my staff did
2. Of course I fuckin needed them! I was getting beaten up by two druggies!
3. Who the fuck do you suggest I called?
As stated, I respect the individuals, but as a force, it's failing. "
blimey less of the agression
you're taking your issue out on one individual that had nothing to do with what happened to you |
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By *harpDressed ManMan
over a year ago
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" blimey less of the agression
you're taking your issue out on one individual that had nothing to do with what happened to you"
I perceived myself being referred to as an "undeserving" case. I stand by the content, but apologise for the tone. |
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So now you dont like compliments or criticism?
Certainy not a case of patronising you...just giving credit actually..
But isnt it the same in any walk of life?..all solicitors are money grabbing leaches who dont care about anyone but themselves..
All builders are dodgy
All social workers are incapable hippies
All MP's fiddle their ex's
All manual workers only eat chips..etc etc etc..
Noone was suggesting that the whole of the police force are useless etc..
Honest guv |
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By *b430Man
over a year ago
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"Right i give in, whats the point, dont know what else to say (sure i'll think of something) police are crap, what are there here for, lets get rid!!!"
No they are not - some just have had a bad experience (or not) and like to take it out on somebody without actually thinking about what they are saying. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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i agree, i work my a*** off and get more abuse than thanks but i do it cos i want to do it, but everybody is entitled to their opinion, even though i might not agree and sorry to everybody for having a rant but some things are just personal |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"no it hasn't, some things are a bit just to close to home, but know everybody is entitled to their opinion, hold no grudges"
We've played with a policeman off here already, but never a policewoman .. now I'm picturing Starkers & Crutch in our living room hmmmm |
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By *heWolfMan
over a year ago
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"really dont need to be patronised!!!, and trust me i am chilled but pisses me off people who slag the police but wouldnt think twice in calling them"
I'll slag the police off, and call them when I need them and see no contradiction, seeing as I'm paying their wages with my hard-earned taxes. They are there to serve the public, not that most of them realise it.
Glam, I hope you type your paperwork to the CPS better than you do here, you know, capitals, punctuation, line breaks, spelling etc? So much easier to get convictions when the paperwork is in legible English!!
(And don't go off on one either, I'm only gently taking the piss, not having a go. I'm here for the tits, not the tit-heads. Deep breath aaaaand smile!) |
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