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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Do mobility scooters have to be identifiable?
They aren't really road users as they can legally ride on the footpath, but they should be plated too"
Some of them are a liablity |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Do mobility scooters have to be identifiable?
They aren't really road users as they can legally ride on the footpath, but they should be plated too
Some of them are a liablity"
Those 20th Century Foxes...
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Do mobility scooters have to be identifiable?
They aren't really road users as they can legally ride on the footpath, but they should be plated too
Some of them are a liablity"
my old girl was a fuckin' menace when she went out on hers |
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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago
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"Bad idea in my opinion, bicycle can't kill or rarely does also does not have an engine. What is needed is more bicycle lanes reason why I can't be a biker."
But there is nothing worse than getting off the bus onto the pavement to be nearly knocked down by the bloody twats! Then supposedly it's my fault! They can't have it both ways! |
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wont happen despite the necessity to clamp down on what is probably a minority of cyclists who ride like muppets..
after all having a number plate on a motorised vehicle doesn't stop the minority of drivers who act like muppets also..
what next we all have an identifiable marking to clamp down on the pedestrians who jay walk, run across roads in front of traffic etc..? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Bad idea in my opinion, bicycle can't kill or rarely does also does not have an engine. What is needed is more bicycle lanes reason why I can't be a biker."
Not having an engine doesn't come into it. They are involved in more and more "incidents" every year. They need to be identifiable. |
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"Bad idea in my opinion, bicycle can't kill or rarely does also does not have an engine. What is needed is more bicycle lanes reason why I can't be a biker."
no point in bulding more cycle lanes, most cyclists dont use them by their own admission on other threads.
apparently, they dont get swept and pedestrians get in their way |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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obviuously all car drivers pumping polution into the air and its a great form of exercise you should try it sometime.As for riding on the pavement the government encourages it due to bad drivers. |
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"Bad idea in my opinion, bicycle can't kill or rarely does also does not have an engine. What is needed is more bicycle lanes reason why I can't be a biker.
no point in bulding more cycle lanes, most cyclists dont use them by their own admission on other threads.
apparently, they dont get swept and pedestrians get in their way"
I'll use a decent facility quite happily. Most cyclepaths are far from that.
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"Bad idea in my opinion, bicycle can't kill or rarely does also does not have an engine. What is needed is more bicycle lanes reason why I can't be a biker.
no point in bulding more cycle lanes, most cyclists dont use them by their own admission on other threads.
apparently, they dont get swept and pedestrians get in their way
I'll use a decent facility quite happily. Most cyclepaths are far from that.
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that was my point, if they dont maintain the ones we got, why build new ones??? in boston at the mo, it is chaos, being caused by the building of a new cycle track that will hardly be used |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Bad idea in my opinion, bicycle can't kill or rarely does also does not have an engine. What is needed is more bicycle lanes reason why I can't be a biker.
no point in bulding more cycle lanes, most cyclists dont use them by their own admission on other threads.
apparently, they dont get swept and pedestrians get in their way
I'll use a decent facility quite happily. Most cyclepaths are far from that.
that was my point, if they dont maintain the ones we got, why build new ones??? in boston at the mo, it is chaos, being caused by the building of a new cycle track that will hardly be used"
It's not about maintenance, it's about practicality and safety. And most importantly integration.
Painting a white line down the middle of a pavement and calling it a cyclepath helps no one and achieves little more than the resentment you highlight (not said as a criticism) |
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"Bad idea in my opinion, bicycle can't kill or rarely does also does not have an engine. What is needed is more bicycle lanes reason why I can't be a biker."
I agree with the bike lane but as for killing people I don't know about that. Tuesday morning at 03:10 I was clocked at 28 mph ( by strava), on a cycle path. You step out in front of me see how well you are afterwards, I do have lights but people never look for a bike on a cycle path in Brighton.
The only place I can see where you can put a number plate is in the frame and a speed camera won't pick you up.
Road fund license is based on emissions, even when I was doing 40 - 50 mph my emissions from my bicycle is ZERO, so guess what no vehicle emissions tax.  |
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A lot of people are going on about Road Fund licence. There has been no such thing since 1936.
Vehicle Excise Duty is purely a tax on vehicle ownership, the roads are paid for out of your council tax, which most cyclists pay, if they work, and live in houses or apartments. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Bad idea in my opinion, bicycle can't kill or rarely does also does not have an engine. What is needed is more bicycle lanes reason why I can't be a biker.
I agree with the bike lane but as for killing people I don't know about that. Tuesday morning at 03:10 I was clocked at 28 mph ( by strava), on a cycle path. You step out in front of me see how well you are afterwards, I do have lights but people never look for a bike on a cycle path in Brighton.
The only place I can see where you can put a number plate is in the frame and a speed camera won't pick you up.
Road fund license is based on emissions, even when I was doing 40 - 50 mph my emissions from my bicycle is ZERO, so guess what no vehicle emissions tax. "
Would there be zero emissions if you suddenly had to decelerate from 40-50 mph? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Solution not bike regitration bit hi viz vest with name and postcode on it.
i followed a bicicle last week doing over35 mph didn't stop at cross road madness"
You think my name and address should be public for everyome to see? Is that so the local thieves know when my house is empty? Or to make it easy for bike thieves? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Solution not bike regitration bit hi viz vest with name and postcode on it.
i followed a bicicle last week doing over35 mph didn't stop at cross road madness
You think my name and address should be public for everyome to see? Is that so the local thieves know when my house is empty? Or to make it easy for bike thieves?"
I've heard somewhere that there's a country where the registration plates are linked to people's home addresses rather than to the car and that you can find the registration plate in a book similar to a telephone directory. Imagine how it would be used in England, someone cuts someone up on a motorway, the cutter upee looks up the cutter upper's regarding plate in a directory, finds their address and goes to knock on their door.
Yes it would be a wonderful idea 
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Bicycles with number plates to aid prosecution for silly riders whatever next big brother watching will have camera in bog next lol"
If they don't do anything wrong then nothing to worry about. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Solution not bike regitration bit hi viz vest with name and postcode on it.
i followed a bicicle last week doing over35 mph didn't stop at cross road madness
You think my name and address should be public for everyome to see? Is that so the local thieves know when my house is empty? Or to make it easy for bike thieves?
I've heard somewhere that there's a country where the registration plates are linked to people's home addresses rather than to the car and that you can find the registration plate in a book similar to a telephone directory. Imagine how it would be used in England, someone cuts someone up on a motorway, the cutter upee looks up the cutter upper's regarding plate in a directory, finds their address and goes to knock on their door.
Yes it would be a wonderful idea
crystal"
Knocking on your door would be wonderful, it's bricks through windows or nails in yer tyres around here. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Solution not bike regitration bit hi viz vest with name and postcode on it.
i followed a bicicle last week doing over35 mph didn't stop at cross road madness
You think my name and address should be public for everyome to see? Is that so the local thieves know when my house is empty? Or to make it easy for bike thieves?
I've heard somewhere that there's a country where the registration plates are linked to people's home addresses rather than to the car and that you can find the registration plate in a book similar to a telephone directory. Imagine how it would be used in England, someone cuts someone up on a motorway, the cutter upee looks up the cutter upper's regarding plate in a directory, finds their address and goes to knock on their door.
Yes it would be a wonderful idea
crystal"
I imagine people wouldn't cut people up or drive like an asshole more than once so better for the rest of us. Only someone who committed offences would have an issue and besides it would work both ways. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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The authorities could do well to make a serious start on the multitude of vehicle drivers who ignore regulations at every opportunity. "
...or we could rip up the rule book and have MAD MAX! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The authorities could do well to make a serious start on the multitude of vehicle drivers who ignore regulations at every opportunity.
...or we could rip up the rule book and have MAD MAX!"
Mad Maxine would be worse. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Solution not bike regitration bit hi viz vest with name and postcode on it.
i followed a bicicle last week doing over35 mph didn't stop at cross road madness
You think my name and address should be public for everyome to see? Is that so the local thieves know when my house is empty? Or to make it easy for bike thieves?
I've heard somewhere that there's a country where the registration plates are linked to people's home addresses rather than to the car and that you can find the registration plate in a book similar to a telephone directory. Imagine how it would be used in England, someone cuts someone up on a motorway, the cutter upee looks up the cutter upper's regarding plate in a directory, finds their address and goes to knock on their door.
Yes it would be a wonderful idea
crystal
Knocking on your door would be wonderful, it's bricks through windows or nails in yer tyres around here. "
certain places in England, they will just set fire to your car. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Bad idea in my opinion, bicycle can't kill or rarely does also does not have an engine. What is needed is more bicycle lanes reason why I can't be a biker.
I agree with the bike lane but as for killing people I don't know about that. Tuesday morning at 03:10 I was clocked at 28 mph ( by strava), on a cycle path. You step out in front of me see how well you are afterwards, I do have lights but people never look for a bike on a cycle path in Brighton.
The only place I can see where you can put a number plate is in the frame and a speed camera won't pick you up.
Road fund license is based on emissions, even when I was doing 40 - 50 mph my emissions from my bicycle is ZERO, so guess what no vehicle emissions tax.
Would there be zero emissions if you suddenly had to decelerate from 40-50 mph? "
a bicycle has no emissions, as it has no engine!!!!  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Solution not bike regitration bit hi viz vest with name and postcode on it.
i followed a bicicle last week doing over35 mph didn't stop at cross road madness"
Hi Vis clothing doesn't work, I got knocked of my bike whilst wearing Hi Vis clothing.
Maybe some awareness training for car driver to spot cyclist might help, after all look at all the adds for looking out for motorbikes. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Bicycles with number plates to aid prosecution for silly riders whatever next big brother watching will have camera in bog next lol"
Actually, this could be a good idea. clone the number plate of an idiot car driver and put it on your bike, ride like a twat and the car driver gets the blame. |
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By *vsnikkiTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Solution not bike regitration bit hi viz vest with name and postcode on it.
i followed a bicicle last week doing over35 mph didn't stop at cross road madness
You think my name and address should be public for everyome to see? Is that so the local thieves know when my house is empty? Or to make it easy for bike thieves?
I've heard somewhere that there's a country where the registration plates are linked to people's home addresses rather than to the car and that you can find the registration plate in a book similar to a telephone directory. Imagine how it would be used in England, someone cuts someone up on a motorway, the cutter upee looks up the cutter upper's regarding plate in a directory, finds their address and goes to knock on their door.
Yes it would be a wonderful idea
crystal
Knocking on your door would be wonderful, it's bricks through windows or nails in yer tyres around here. "
Ah ye soft Northern b--t--d!
A bit of a good old punishment beating or a gentle kneecap never hurt anyone. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Bad idea in my opinion, bicycle can't kill or rarely does also does not have an engine. What is needed is more bicycle lanes reason why I can't be a biker."
Cause plenty though. Riding straight across crossings and red lights doing 30.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Bad idea in my opinion, bicycle can't kill or rarely does also does not have an engine. What is needed is more bicycle lanes reason why I can't be a biker.
I agree with the bike lane but as for killing people I don't know about that. Tuesday morning at 03:10 I was clocked at 28 mph ( by strava), on a cycle path. You step out in front of me see how well you are afterwards, I do have lights but people never look for a bike on a cycle path in Brighton.
The only place I can see where you can put a number plate is in the frame and a speed camera won't pick you up.
Road fund license is based on emissions, even when I was doing 40 - 50 mph my emissions from my bicycle is ZERO, so guess what no vehicle emissions tax.
Would there be zero emissions if you suddenly had to decelerate from 40-50 mph?
a bicycle has no emissions, as it has no engine!!!! "
I know, i'm a cyclist too.
Was thinking more on a personal level. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Can't understand why cyclist complain about being identifiable and insured.
They use the road and are capable of causing accidents. This seems to make sense to us x |
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"Bicycles with number plates to aid prosecution for silly riders whatever next big brother watching will have camera in bog next lol"
. Was nearly knocked down by one on a Zebra Crossing . Cars stopped and I saw this cyclist zooming along at high speed . Assumed he would stop or slow down . He just about managed to avoid mowing me down. Cycle handlebars can cause serious injury. At least cars have rounded bodywork and if hit at low speed you will slide on to them. Some cyclists seem to think they own the pavement . The way they undertake in heavy traffic is dangerous . I always exercise extreme caution in heavy traffic if turning right in case a cyclist is moving at full speed and undertaking in the cycle lane.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Bicycles with number plates to aid prosecution for silly riders whatever next big brother watching will have camera in bog next lol. Was nearly knocked down by one on a Zebra Crossing . Cars stopped and I saw this cyclist zooming along at high speed . Assumed he would stop or slow down . He just about managed to avoid mowing me down. Cycle handlebars can cause serious injury. At least cars have rounded bodywork and if hit at low speed you will slide on to them. Some cyclists seem to think they own the pavement . The way they undertake in heavy traffic is dangerous . I always exercise extreme caution in heavy traffic if turning right in case a cyclist is moving at full speed and undertaking in the cycle lane. "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Bicycles with number plates to aid prosecution for silly riders whatever next big brother watching will have camera in bog next lol. Was nearly knocked down by one on a Zebra Crossing . Cars stopped and I saw this cyclist zooming along at high speed . Assumed he would stop or slow down . He just about managed to avoid mowing me down. Cycle handlebars can cause serious injury. At least cars have rounded bodywork and if hit at low speed you will slide on to them. Some cyclists seem to think they own the pavement . The way they undertake in heavy traffic is dangerous . I always exercise extreme caution in heavy traffic if turning right in case a cyclist is moving at full speed and undertaking in the cycle lane. "
Too damn right you should.
If your turning right, all traffic on the other side of the road have preference over you.
Undertaking in a cycle lane? That's what they are there for. Presumably you mean passing on the inside of a car, rather than "undertaking" another cyclist.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Can't understand why cyclist complain about being identifiable and insured.
They use the road and are capable of causing accidents. This seems to make sense to us x"
The only reason they don't want to be identifiable is because with anonymity there in no need to conform to rules they can choose to do as they wish without paying for it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Cyclists should start to be made accountable (just as other transport users are). About time they at least clamped down on no helmet riders and bikes without sufficient lighting in the dark. Most around here (not all) put themselves at risk of life threatening injuries which in some cases could be avoided. |
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hang on ....a parked car in a bus lane swung a drivers door open into a cyclist and propelled him into the path of a bus who ran over him and killed him ..i dont think its a huge ask to glance into your wing mirror before swinging a door open but when it went to court the driver was not at fault for not checking wing mirror before swinging a door open onto other motorists path |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Cyclists should start to be made accountable (just as other transport users are). About time they at least clamped down on no helmet riders and bikes without sufficient lighting in the dark. Most around here (not all) put themselves at risk of life threatening injuries which in some cases could be avoided. "
Is there a requirement to wear a helmet then? |
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"Bicycles with number plates to aid prosecution for silly riders whatever next big brother watching will have camera in bog next lol. Was nearly knocked down by one on a Zebra Crossing . Cars stopped and I saw this cyclist zooming along at high speed . Assumed he would stop or slow down . He just about managed to avoid mowing me down. Cycle handlebars can cause serious injury. At least cars have rounded bodywork and if hit at low speed you will slide on to them. Some cyclists seem to think they own the pavement . The way they undertake in heavy traffic is dangerous . I always exercise extreme caution in heavy traffic if turning right in case a cyclist is moving at full speed and undertaking in the cycle lane.
Too damn right you should.
If your turning right, all traffic on the other side of the road have preference over you.
Undertaking in a cycle lane? That's what they are there for. Presumably you mean passing on the inside of a car, rather than "undertaking" another cyclist.
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. If undertaking in heavy traffic and when all other traffic is stationery you would expect cyclists to approach junctions with a degree of caution , not bomb along at maximum speed and showing no consideration for other road users . Maybe ban cyclists from undertaking within two hundred yards of a junction. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"hang on ....a parked car in a bus lane swung a drivers door open into a cyclist and propelled him into the path of a bus who ran over him and killed him ..i dont think its a huge ask to glance into your wing mirror before swinging a door open but when it went to court the driver was not at fault for not checking wing mirror before swinging a door open onto other motorists path "
Is this the guy in Holloway? Horrible incident. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Bicycles with number plates to aid prosecution for silly riders whatever next big brother watching will have camera in bog next lol. Was nearly knocked down by one on a Zebra Crossing . Cars stopped and I saw this cyclist zooming along at high speed . Assumed he would stop or slow down . He just about managed to avoid mowing me down. Cycle handlebars can cause serious injury. At least cars have rounded bodywork and if hit at low speed you will slide on to them. Some cyclists seem to think they own the pavement . The way they undertake in heavy traffic is dangerous . I always exercise extreme caution in heavy traffic if turning right in case a cyclist is moving at full speed and undertaking in the cycle lane.
Too damn right you should.
If your turning right, all traffic on the other side of the road have preference over you.
Undertaking in a cycle lane? That's what they are there for. Presumably you mean passing on the inside of a car, rather than "undertaking" another cyclist.
. If undertaking in heavy traffic and when all other traffic is stationery you would expect cyclists to approach junctions with a degree of caution , not bomb along at maximum speed and showing no consideration for other road users . Maybe ban cyclists from undertaking within two hundred yards of a junction. "
How would that work then? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Cyclists should start to be made accountable (just as other transport users are). About time they at least clamped down on no helmet riders and bikes without sufficient lighting in the dark. Most around here (not all) put themselves at risk of life threatening injuries which in some cases could be avoided.
Is there a requirement to wear a helmet then? "
no |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Horses most dangerous things on the road"
As horse owners would totally disagree. It's the idiots who don't slow down for horses or try to overtake them without giving sufficient room. All our horses are insured and my wife wears hi viz also the horse wears a hi viz so there's no excuse for not seeing them. The most dangerous thing on the road is man itself. Whether it be in car or on bike or on horse you will always get idiots who ruin it for everyone else. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"obviuously all car drivers pumping polution into the air and its a great form of exercise you should try it sometime.As for riding on the pavement the government encourages it due to bad drivers."
Rubbish, people who ride bikes can be just as bad as car drivers |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Mobility scooter drivers are twats round here! They play chicken and never lose.
I've even seen some on the roads."
Same here but my understanding is that some scooters are allowed on the road |
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By (user no longer on site)
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The authorities could do well to make a serious start on the multitude of vehicle drivers who ignore regulations at every opportunity. "
Make sure you add the cyclists who run red lights to that then or pull out at turnings without looking |
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By (user no longer on site)
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We need some way to identify dangerous cyclist. While most are fine there are some who don't seem to care about other road users..
I don't think this is a big brother issue.
Problem is license plates seem pretty un-enforcable.
But who knows perhaps it could work. |
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"Horses most dangerous things on the road
No they are not, the rider is responsible for the horse
Well said. "
. Always find horse owners to be considerate and in control of their animals . Quite often they thank you for passing slowly and giving a wide berth. |
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"Bicycles with number plates to aid prosecution for silly riders whatever next big brother watching will have camera in bog next lol. Was nearly knocked down by one on a Zebra Crossing . Cars stopped and I saw this cyclist zooming along at high speed . Assumed he would stop or slow down . He just about managed to avoid mowing me down. Cycle handlebars can cause serious injury. At least cars have rounded bodywork and if hit at low speed you will slide on to them. Some cyclists seem to think they own the pavement . The way they undertake in heavy traffic is dangerous . I always exercise extreme caution in heavy traffic if turning right in case a cyclist is moving at full speed and undertaking in the cycle lane.
Too damn right you should.
If your turning right, all traffic on the other side of the road have preference over you.
Undertaking in a cycle lane? That's what they are there for. Presumably you mean passing on the inside of a car, rather than "undertaking" another cyclist.
. If undertaking in heavy traffic and when all other traffic is stationery you would expect cyclists to approach junctions with a degree of caution , not bomb along at maximum speed and showing no consideration for other road users . Maybe ban cyclists from undertaking within two hundred yards of a junction.
How would that work then?"
Would remove the risk of cyclists which approach junctions at maximum speed with no intention of stopping of slowing down. If you are turning right and there is a long queue of stationery oncoming traffic it can be difficult to see any cyclists on the inside , especially if they are hidden by a high sided vehicle. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Horses most dangerous things on the road
No they are not, the rider is responsible for the horse
Well said. . Always find horse owners to be considerate and in control of their animals . Quite often they thank you for passing slowly and giving a wide berth. "
Out if interest do you show the same courtesy to cyclists and pass them wide and slowly |
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"We need some way to identify dangerous cyclist. While most are fine there are some who don't seem to care about other road users..
I don't think this is a big brother issue.
Problem is license plates seem pretty un-enforcable.
But who knows perhaps it could work. "
There's an easy way to identify dangerous motorists but that does relatively little to eliminate dangerous driving. |
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"Bicycles with number plates to aid prosecution for silly riders whatever next big brother watching will have camera in bog next lol. Was nearly knocked down by one on a Zebra Crossing . Cars stopped and I saw this cyclist zooming along at high speed . Assumed he would stop or slow down . He just about managed to avoid mowing me down. Cycle handlebars can cause serious injury. At least cars have rounded bodywork and if hit at low speed you will slide on to them. Some cyclists seem to think they own the pavement . The way they undertake in heavy traffic is dangerous . I always exercise extreme caution in heavy traffic if turning right in case a cyclist is moving at full speed and undertaking in the cycle lane.
Too damn right you should.
If your turning right, all traffic on the other side of the road have preference over you.
Undertaking in a cycle lane? That's what they are there for. Presumably you mean passing on the inside of a car, rather than "undertaking" another cyclist.
. If undertaking in heavy traffic and when all other traffic is stationery you would expect cyclists to approach junctions with a degree of caution , not bomb along at maximum speed and showing no consideration for other road users . Maybe ban cyclists from undertaking within two hundred yards of a junction.
How would that work then? Would remove the risk of cyclists which approach junctions at maximum speed with no intention of stopping of slowing down. If you are turning right and there is a long queue of stationery oncoming traffic it can be difficult to see any cyclists on the inside , especially if they are hidden by a high sided vehicle."
Am I reading this right? You turn right across oncoming traffic that has the right away unsure it is safe to do so and you are blaming the oncoming traffic fir the inherent danger in your manoeuvre? |
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The Boris Bikes in London sum up the problem with Bicycles to me, The only control is a Credit Card.
Pissed up Tarquin can hook his Laptop n Backpack over the Handlebars and go wobbling across Park Lane at 7pm while rabbiting on the phone 
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"Horses most dangerous things on the road
No they are not, the rider is responsible for the horse
Well said. . Always find horse owners to be considerate and in control of their animals . Quite often they thank you for passing slowly and giving a wide berth. "
I think anybody who uses the road should be insured be it car,bike,horse or mobility scooter. Legally we don't have to be insured to ride our horses on the road but like any competent horse owner we choose to do so. |
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"Bad idea in my opinion, bicycle can't kill or rarely does also does not have an engine. What is needed is more bicycle lanes reason why I can't be a biker.
Cause plenty though. Riding straight across crossings and red lights doing 30.
Licensing and insurance is long overdue. "
Oh so agree. My daughter was hit by a cyclist that didn't stop at a crossing. Okay only cuts and bruises but it still hurt and frightened her. I have had cyclists behave like utter idiots. One drove straight through red lights and I only just missed them.
Yes car drivers are often idiots too but there is come back. And cyclists on pavements are a danger to small kids too |
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"Horses most dangerous things on the road
No they are not, the rider is responsible for the horse
Well said. . Always find horse owners to be considerate and in control of their animals . Quite often they thank you for passing slowly and giving a wide berth.
Out if interest do you show the same courtesy to cyclists and pass them wide and slowly"
Yes I do and moped/motorcyclists too, and I wait until I have space to pass them too even if I have a long queue of traffic behind me |
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"Horses most dangerous things on the road
No they are not, the rider is responsible for the horse
Well said. . Always find horse owners to be considerate and in control of their animals . Quite often they thank you for passing slowly and giving a wide berth.
I think anybody who uses the road should be insured be it car,bike,horse or mobility scooter. Legally we don't have to be insured to ride our horses on the road but like any competent horse owner we choose to do so. "
Which is also the same for many cyclists. British Cycling announced this week a membership of 100000 and they are far from the only organisation offering insurance |
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"Horses most dangerous things on the road
No they are not, the rider is responsible for the horse
Well said. . Always find horse owners to be considerate and in control of their animals . Quite often they thank you for passing slowly and giving a wide berth.
Out if interest do you show the same courtesy to cyclists and pass them wide and slowly"
Yes , leave a minimum space of six feet when passing and have also completed an advanced driving test . |
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"Horses most dangerous things on the road
No they are not, the rider is responsible for the horse
Well said. . Always find horse owners to be considerate and in control of their animals . Quite often they thank you for passing slowly and giving a wide berth.
I think anybody who uses the road should be insured be it car,bike,horse or mobility scooter. Legally we don't have to be insured to ride our horses on the road but like any competent horse owner we choose to do so.
Which is also the same for many cyclists. British Cycling announced this week a membership of 100000 and they are far from the only organisation offering insurance"
I think the point I'm trying to make is there is a small minority in each field that is giving every other sensible road user a bad name and everyone being tarnished with the same brush. |
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"Can't understand why cyclist complain about being identifiable and insured.
They use the road and are capable of causing accidents. This seems to make sense to us x"
We have liability insurance that covers us on the roads, also if you are a member of the BIG or other group you get liability insurance with that. |
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"Cyclists should start to be made accountable (just as other transport users are). About time they at least clamped down on no helmet riders and bikes without sufficient lighting in the dark. Most around here (not all) put themselves at risk of life threatening injuries which in some cases could be avoided. "
I agree with you on the lights front, but the helmets at times don't stop much damage. Yes they absorb some energy but you still get riders getting serious head injuries from collisions with cars. |
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"Can't understand why cyclist complain about being identifiable and insured.
They use the road and are capable of causing accidents. This seems to make sense to us x
We have liability insurance that covers us on the roads, also if you are a member of the BIG or other group you get liability insurance with that."
But it's not compulsory, that is an issue, all cyclists should be insured if riding on the road, not just those cyclist who are thoughtful enough to do it voluntarily. |
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"Flatten the lot, unless they keep to their cycle paths"
Tell that to the family and friends of the people who have been killed when riding a bicycle on public roads, see what reaction you get from them. I certainly hope no one you know has an accident on a bike, as these words might come back to haunt you from some one else. |
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"Bicycles with number plates to aid prosecution for silly riders whatever next big brother watching will have camera in bog next lol. Was nearly knocked down by one on a Zebra Crossing . Cars stopped and I saw this cyclist zooming along at high speed . Assumed he would stop or slow down . He just about managed to avoid mowing me down. Cycle handlebars can cause serious injury. At least cars have rounded bodywork and if hit at low speed you will slide on to them. Some cyclists seem to think they own the pavement . The way they undertake in heavy traffic is dangerous . I always exercise extreme caution in heavy traffic if turning right in case a cyclist is moving at full speed and undertaking in the cycle lane.
Too damn right you should.
If your turning right, all traffic on the other side of the road have preference over you.
Undertaking in a cycle lane? That's what they are there for. Presumably you mean passing on the inside of a car, rather than "undertaking" another cyclist.
. If undertaking in heavy traffic and when all other traffic is stationery you would expect cyclists to approach junctions with a degree of caution , not bomb along at maximum speed and showing no consideration for other road users . Maybe ban cyclists from undertaking within two hundred yards of a junction.
How would that work then? Would remove the risk of cyclists which approach junctions at maximum speed with no intention of stopping of slowing down. If you are turning right and there is a long queue of stationery oncoming traffic it can be difficult to see any cyclists on the inside , especially if they are hidden by a high sided vehicle.
Am I reading this right? You turn right across oncoming traffic that has the right away unsure it is safe to do so and you are blaming the oncoming traffic fir the inherent danger in your manoeuvre? "
You are reading this correctly. I use extreme caution when turning right against oncoming stationery traffic just in case a cyclist is undertaking at maximum speed and cannot be seen. This issue would not arise if cyclists were prohibited from undertaking in cycle lanes or at junctions . Some cyclists seem to be totally lacking in common sense . |
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"Bicycles with number plates to aid prosecution for silly riders whatever next big brother watching will have camera in bog next lol. Was nearly knocked down by one on a Zebra Crossing . Cars stopped and I saw this cyclist zooming along at high speed . Assumed he would stop or slow down . He just about managed to avoid mowing me down. Cycle handlebars can cause serious injury. At least cars have rounded bodywork and if hit at low speed you will slide on to them. Some cyclists seem to think they own the pavement . The way they undertake in heavy traffic is dangerous . I always exercise extreme caution in heavy traffic if turning right in case a cyclist is moving at full speed and undertaking in the cycle lane.
Too damn right you should.
If your turning right, all traffic on the other side of the road have preference over you.
Undertaking in a cycle lane? That's what they are there for. Presumably you mean passing on the inside of a car, rather than "undertaking" another cyclist.
. If undertaking in heavy traffic and when all other traffic is stationery you would expect cyclists to approach junctions with a degree of caution , not bomb along at maximum speed and showing no consideration for other road users . Maybe ban cyclists from undertaking within two hundred yards of a junction.
How would that work then? Would remove the risk of cyclists which approach junctions at maximum speed with no intention of stopping of slowing down. If you are turning right and there is a long queue of stationery oncoming traffic it can be difficult to see any cyclists on the inside , especially if they are hidden by a high sided vehicle.
Am I reading this right? You turn right across oncoming traffic that has the right away unsure it is safe to do so and you are blaming the oncoming traffic fir the inherent danger in your manoeuvre? You are reading this correctly. I use extreme caution when turning right against oncoming stationery traffic just in case a cyclist is undertaking at maximum speed and cannot be seen. This issue would not arise if cyclists were prohibited from undertaking in cycle lanes or at junctions . Some cyclists seem to be totally lacking in common sense . "
So are some car drivers as well, judging by what has happened to me over the years. |
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"They aren't really road users as they can legally ride on the footpath, but they should be plated too"
Actually, that is not true.
It is illegal to ride a push bike on the pavement - Section 72 of the 1935 Highways Act. |
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I know what would help a a awareness of cyclists.
When a car driver is caught speeding driving dangerously or whatever. Don't give them a nice easy awareness course, make them pay £150 give them a bike, a helmet and hi vis clothing make them ride on the roads for a week. They might be a bit more careful around cyclists after being one for a bit. A s it seems so .any peo People pass judgement o my something they know nothing about. |
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"We need some way to identify dangerous cyclist. While most are fine there are some who don't seem to care about other road users..
I don't think this is a big brother issue.
Problem is license plates seem pretty un-enforcable.
But who knows perhaps it could work.
There's an easy way to identify dangerous motorists but that does relatively little to eliminate dangerous driving. "
I agree. Unfortunately no matter what we do there will always be irresponsible drivers, cyclist and even pedestrians.
This won't prevent accidents only make them easy to resolve.
The damage at that point is done so prosecution is no real consellation |
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