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By *riskygaz OP   Man  over a year ago

birmingham

Well I have avoided it for a few years now, but they got me in the end, I don't want the job but it's mine regardless lol, the boss has decided pat testing 4,500 ish items around the school is now my job, booked on a course in November, So who has done the course ? is it interesting or will I die of boredom lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Zzzzzzzzzzzz

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz "

Megga Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

check the fuse the cable, general condition, plug it into the test press button see what tester tells you unplug

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By *riskygaz OP   Man  over a year ago

birmingham


"Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Megga Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

check the fuse the cable, general condition, plug it into the test press button see what tester tells you unplug "

Mmm that what I thought lol, oh well guess I will just have to grin and bare it lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I think I would perhaps prefer that to my job!

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By *its_n_piecesCouple  over a year ago


"Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Megga Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

check the fuse the cable, general condition, plug it into the test press button see what tester tells you unplug "

you forgot to mention the bit about filling out the little sticky label with tiny writing ..... and if you're really, really lucky .... cutting off the flex if it fails (this usually provokes abuse and ill feeling if it's someones heater or desk fan etc)

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I originally thought this was a "how to recognise you are Irish" thread

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

boring as fuck

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By *riskygaz OP   Man  over a year ago

birmingham


"Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Megga Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

check the fuse the cable, general condition, plug it into the test press button see what tester tells you unplug

you forgot to mention the bit about filling out the little sticky label with tiny writing ..... and if you're really, really lucky .... cutting off the flex if it fails (this usually provokes abuse and ill feeling if it's someones heater or desk fan etc)"

lol yes the guy that used to do it, got a bit of stick for cutting plugs of things

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Pat testing is the most boring job on earth ...if indeed its earthed properly.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Megga Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

check the fuse the cable, general condition, plug it into the test press button see what tester tells you unplug

you forgot to mention the bit about filling out the little sticky label with tiny writing ..... and if you're really, really lucky .... cutting off the flex if it fails (this usually provokes abuse and ill feeling if it's someones heater or desk fan etc)"

Bugger thats a fail lol

I own a guest house and we bought one to pa all our stuff there and as its a pass/fail meter the course was 10 mins on line!!!

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By *inaTitzTV/TS  over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

You'll love it!

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By *ust RachelTV/TS  over a year ago

Horsham

You will die of boredom for all but half of practical, still it adds a bit more to your CV though.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

We used to give pat testing to the guys who pissed us off the most.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

You could always liven it up (no pun intended)by pat testing the female staff derriere's? And/or sixth fromers.

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By *avebi48Man  over a year ago

Lordswood


"Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Megga Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

check the fuse the cable, general condition, plug it into the test press button see what tester tells you unplug

you forgot to mention the bit about filling out the little sticky label with tiny writing ..... and if you're really, really lucky .... cutting off the flex if it fails (this usually provokes abuse and ill feeling if it's someones heater or desk fan etc)"

just make sure you/they haven't absentmindedly plugged it back in before you cut it tho

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

If you die of boredom in the first hour then you will be relieved. 4500 items is not too bad though stick some music on your MP3 player and dig in.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Frank Butcher is a qualified Pat Tester

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By *my-blackTV/TS  over a year ago

Poole

And dont forget to have a big pair of pliers handy to bend the pins on the plug so if found cannot be plugged in with bare wires cutoff

As for the course, yes the meters are pass/fail but there is still an element of common sense and you are trying to make sure a piece of kit is safe for use.

Yes, I know people will then bang on about its like an MOT and only as good as when its tested but I have seen some very scary electrical wiring and equipment and stand amazed sometimes wondering how nobody has ever been killed by a particular bit of kit.

It can be humdrum and might seem ott at times but there are some fun times, like its quite astonishing what you find under some peoples desks

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

at least you are working mate, be thankful for that

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By *heWolfMan  over a year ago

warwickshire

I did the C&G course and as a qualified electrician it was seriously boring, I learned absolutely nothing and could have taken the multiple choice test straight away and still passed (I got 98% and dropped one question, for which I actually complained to City & Guilds because of the poor syntax in the question - namely the use of "should" instead of "must". Just another example of educational and proof-reading standards going down the pan...).

However, the poor "maintenance" chaps from BMW who were doing the course were having real problems, they had no idea what they were doing.

PAT testing is easy, any idiot can do it, UNDERSTANDING what it is you are testing, and why, is quite another. You obviously know all about Earth Loop Impedance and Fault Paths, Earth Continuity etc, don't you, because you won't understand PAT otherwise?

The maintenance guys I spoke of above didn't, they hadn't a clue, and subsequently failed the exam, despite myself,the instructor and a plumber who was there spending the morning trying to explain the basics of Earthing.

Remember that you don't need one of these courses and certs to PAT, you just need to be "competent", it's a way of proving that you are. If you are going to be accepting responsibility as the "competent person" doing PAT, you should have a basic knowledge of electrical principles.

Yes, anyone can do a 10 minute on-line course and press GO on an Auto-test, but in the event of an accident and the HSE stepping in, I think you'd be in serious shit if you couldn't explain basic Earthing. It's going to happen one day, trust me, industry bodies are actively trying to see the end of these companies who offer 100% pass rates to people who don't understand what they are testing for. That doesn't make anyone safer.

Buy "The Code of Practice for In-Service Inspection & Testing of Electrical Equipment" published by the IET, it has all the info you need. If it reads like Double Dutch, you might want to tell your boss you aren't the man for the job!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Mr wolf you know your stuff x

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By *not69Man  over a year ago

Lancashire


"I did the C&G course and as a qualified electrician it was seriously boring, I learned absolutely nothing and could have taken the multiple choice test straight away and still passed (I got 98% and dropped one question, for which I actually complained to City & Guilds because of the poor syntax in the question - namely the use of "should" instead of "must". Just another example of educational and proof-reading standards going down the pan...).

However, the poor "maintenance" chaps from BMW who were doing the course were having real problems, they had no idea what they were doing.

PAT testing is easy, any idiot can do it, UNDERSTANDING what it is you are testing, and why, is quite another. You obviously know all about Earth Loop Impedance and Fault Paths, Earth Continuity etc, don't you, because you won't understand PAT otherwise?

The maintenance guys I spoke of above didn't, they hadn't a clue, and subsequently failed the exam, despite myself,the instructor and a plumber who was there spending the morning trying to explain the basics of Earthing.

Remember that you don't need one of these courses and certs to PAT, you just need to be "competent", it's a way of proving that you are. If you are going to be accepting responsibility as the "competent person" doing PAT, you should have a basic knowledge of electrical principles.

Yes, anyone can do a 10 minute on-line course and press GO on an Auto-test, but in the event of an accident and the HSE stepping in, I think you'd be in serious shit if you couldn't explain basic Earthing. It's going to happen one day, trust me, industry bodies are actively trying to see the end of these companies who offer 100% pass rates to people who don't understand what they are testing for. That doesn't make anyone safer.

Buy "The Code of Practice for In-Service Inspection & Testing of Electrical Equipment" published by the IET, it has all the info you need. If it reads like Double Dutch, you might want to tell your boss you aren't the man for the job! "

As an electrician who has also done the C&G course I agree with everything he said.

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