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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Once again, they are proving their religious philosophy of "peace and love" - let us drop some "cuddle bombs" on them, send some troops to give them some "peace and love" too.
We used to have a death cult like theirs.
They were called The Vikings.
But we all grew up and put away such childish things. |
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over a year ago
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Slaughter of an innocent aid worker. I'm not sure how that can rally support for their cause but the sad thing is though that the fanatics and followers will rejoice.
The world is fucked. Truly. |
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"Once again, they are proving their religious philosophy of "peace and love" - let us drop some "cuddle bombs" on them, send some troops to give them some "peace and love" too.
We used to have a death cult like theirs.
They were called The Vikings.
But we all grew up and put away such childish things."
Every religion has its extremists and shouldn't be judged by their standards!
Condemn the person,not the religion. |
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By *horltzMan
over a year ago
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Heart goes to the family , I truly believe that they should stop getting media coverage , for such unhumanly sickening behaviour , because without publicity , such acts would be pointless and probably stop |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Once again, they are proving their religious philosophy of "peace and love" - let us drop some "cuddle bombs" on them, send some troops to give them some "peace and love" too.
We used to have a death cult like theirs.
They were called The Vikings.
But we all grew up and put away such childish things.
Every religion has its extremists and shouldn't be judged by their standards!
Condemn the person,not the religion. "
True - I wasn't condemning the religion - I was condemning ISIS. Not all Vikings were axe wielding psychopaths either - they were skilled trades people and excellent mariners... Argue with them over semantics, however, and you might just lose your head... |
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"Sick fuckers 
But do you think they have already killed most of the hostages and post the vids at a later date 
That's what I think as well! 
Something I wondered also "
so, IF this is the case, why not risk some collateral damage and show them we are prepared to make a few sacrifices of our own and obliterate ALL their known positions??
this is a question, not saying do it |
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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago
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R.I.P. BRAVE AND SELFLESS MAN
this strikes home for us as keiths daughter is in the same tutor groups as his daughter at college such a shock all Alan wanted to do was help strangers
A bright beacon has bean extinguished |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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This just illustrates how sad and pathetic they really are. Like all extremists they will be defeated, sadly innocent people will always perish.
Leave it up to the experts to sort it, they will get them eventually.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think we can safely say that these sick people don't want any kind of reconciliation and just want to take over the world with their twisted _iew of life.
RIP Mr Henning |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Europe was no different a few hundred years ago and fueding goes on today.
It is only when religion no longer exists will we have peace,and religion will allways exist!"
Amen - you don't even need religion to fight - people will fight about *anything* |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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No words can describe these ppl ....
God bless him he was only doin what he thought was good in a country ravaged by war
How utterly brave he had to be faced with that kind of death as was the rest of those poor me
God bless his poor family also |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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That poor man and his family, a father has just appealed for his sons realise on the 10 o'clock news, another British hostage.
Sick vile people.. What has this world come too ? |
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Sick vile people who use religion as an excuse when foreigners are bringing aid to their citizens who are starving and freezing never mind anything else.
Nothing like total bastardisation of a religion, unfortunately. |
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"Europe was no different a few hundred years ago and fueding goes on today.
It is only when religion no longer exists will we have peace,and religion will allways exist!
Amen - you don't even need religion to fight - people will fight about *anything*"
 Religion is a great decoy and recruiting sergeant. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Each and every one is a despicable event.
Yet, Obama and Hague still want to arm, seriously arm, rebels and bring down Governments they don't like.
ps no thanks to Bush and Blair either. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Each and every one is a despicable event.
Yet, Obama and Hague still want to arm, seriously arm, rebels and bring down Governments they don't like.
ps no thanks to Bush and Blair either. "
Aren't Isis using weapons supplied by the west already! |
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"Each and every one is a despicable event.
Yet, Obama and Hague still want to arm, seriously arm, rebels and bring down Governments they don't like.
ps no thanks to Bush and Blair either. "
Yet so called 'intelligent' governments and indeed their populations still believe the propaganda put out and don't learn from history.
The only 'winner's' are arms companies. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"oh no this is absolutely shocking his poor wife and family been asking for his release so recent what bastards they are"
Yes i hope when they get these vile individuals that they give
them no burial there not worthy of
That infact there not worthy of anything Show the world for what they are and
Treat any followers just the same or
dump them in the pig swill for the
Pigs to eat. |
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By *bi HaiveMan
over a year ago
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"Sick fuckers
But do you think they have already killed most of the hostages and post the vids at a later date
Yeah I think that too "
Apparently references in the video prove it to be no more than a week old at most.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Sick fuckers
But do you think they have already killed most of the hostages and post the vids at a later date
Yeah I think that too
Apparently references in the video prove it to be no more than a week old at most.
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Well in my opinion they should stop fucking about and put 1000s of boots on the ground and wipe the bastards out |
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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago
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"Slaughter of an innocent aid worker. I'm not sure how that can rally support for their cause but the sad thing is though that the fanatics and followers will rejoice.
The world is fucked. Truly."
they do not want to rally support to their cause they want to provoke us ( the western powers ) into a ground war with the intent of starting a muslim v christian war that can only end in our annihilation and their victory these people cannot be reasoned with and cannot be appeased they have one ideal and that is the total annihilation of anyone who does not adhere to there way of life the only thing they respect is strength and then they will continue to fight against it until they are dead or victorious . collateral damage is a cost worth taking for them as its costs them nothing in fighting strength and serves only as a propaganda tool against us and our sensitivity's the only way to defeat them will be all out total war and untill the people in charge realise this they will continue to prevail |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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Remember that IS released two videos today... The one of Alan henning and another one of a British jahadi goading western allies to put forces on the ground....
They want people to feel vengeful enough to say "fuck it!" And want people to go in...
Where all the other people had some tie to government...Alan Henning didn't, he just went out to help people... When you get the like of Al-quieda saying he should have been released tells you how extreme IS is..
This one will be felt in the uk, the U.S.greatly...
The next one shown is an American again...I don have much faith for him as he was a former soldier in Iraq
Pressure is going to increase on Saudi, turkey, Qatar and others in the region to do more...
It looks like they want us to fight their war... Whereas we want them to fight our war... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The dirty tricks of war whether in your face or subtle are never palatable, however my feelings on this are not negotiable, IS and all they stand for are inhumane, sub human and not acceptable to a peaceful planet.
Therefore measures must be taken to protect our humanity, unfortunately those measures may go against the grain of our existence
RIP Alan Henning my thoughts go to your family. |
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May the British man who did this and other beheadings rot in hell before his god!
Wonder if this murdering bastard will have the balls to not cover his face if he believes that strongly in what he does?
Wonder if this murdering shitbag who hides his face has an equally proud family or even if they are aware of his cowardice? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Wise words, so many agent provocateurs.
Maybe we should let Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Iraq and Iran sort it out.
I think we should allow more Buddhists into our own country... Do they have fundamentalist Buddhists? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"This stuff really makes me cry...I cannot comprehend what these guys who have got murdered went through...they are now saying that there are going to be more Lee Rigby style killings.."
This is why i try my hardest not to think too much about it |
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I also read that British IS fighters are asking the British government if they can come home as they believe that IS is too extreme...from what I understand wasn't something passed that these fighters had their British passport taken off them? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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ISIS will do what they do until they are beaten, there was never any chance they would do anything else, cowards every one of them, tie a guys hands and kill him, cowards and scum |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Sick fuckers
But do you think they have already killed most of the hostages and post the vids at a later date "
Videos like that tend to have a point of reference in order to show the people they're threatening that it is a current video. The UK and the U.S. have a strict policy not to negotiate with terrorists under any costs. If IS weren't able to show they had hostages alive at a certain point in time, they would simply bomb the shit out of them, which is was IS are trying to stop by holding hostages in the first place. It makes no sense from their point of _iew to just kill them all. |
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Talk about playing into right wing shit like the BNP too.
I would feel very uncomfortable being a Muslim now in this country with so many loons ready to do their cowardly attacks too.
I was just listening to R5 Live and a couple of Muslims who spoke where absolutely horrified as they also mentioned that the fact Mr Hemming was delivering aid, was a more Muslim behaviour than the cowards who kidnapped and beheaded him. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I also read that British IS fighters are asking the British government if they can come home as they believe that IS is too extreme...from what I understand wasn't something passed that these fighters had their British passport taken off them? "
i believe that is true |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Talk about playing into right wing shit like the BNP too.
I would feel very uncomfortable being a Muslim now in this country with so many loons ready to do their cowardly attacks too.
I was just listening to R5 Live and a couple of Muslims who spoke where absolutely horrified as they also mentioned that the fact Mr Hemming was delivering aid, was a more Muslim behaviour than the cowards who kidnapped and beheaded him. "
I'm not religious in any way, but I'm half Pakistani and grew up in a relatively Islamic family... I get more and more terrified by the day. Although I was relatively young at the time, I genuinely feel that it's worse now than it was post 9/11. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Talk about playing into right wing shit like the BNP too.
I would feel very uncomfortable being a Muslim now in this country with so many loons ready to do their cowardly attacks too.
I was just listening to R5 Live and a couple of Muslims who spoke where absolutely horrified as they also mentioned that the fact Mr Hemming was delivering aid, was a more Muslim behaviour than the cowards who kidnapped and beheaded him.
I'm not religious in any way, but I'm half Pakistani and grew up in a relatively Islamic family... I get more and more terrified by the day. Although I was relatively young at the time, I genuinely feel that it's worse now than it was post 9/11."
Fair point.
But move to somewhere like Bradford and see how your other half feels.
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Wow IS....a new threat.. estimtated at 40k plus making substantial gains in Iraq and Syria even Assad had warned of this 3 yrs ago and little old uk and usa didnt know what was going to happen then ....yea fkin right they did same as the arab spring was a surprise ....
'The best way to win a war is to let someone else fight it for you' |
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"Remember that IS released two videos today... The one of Alan henning and another one of a British jahadi goading western allies to put forces on the ground....
They want people to feel vengeful enough to say "fuck it!" And want people to go in...
Where all the other people had some tie to government...Alan Henning didn't, he just went out to help people... When you get the like of Al-quieda saying he should have been released tells you how extreme IS is..
This one will be felt in the uk, the U.S.greatly...
The next one shown is an American again...I don have much faith for him as he was a former soldier in Iraq
Pressure is going to increase on Saudi, turkey, Qatar and others in the region to do more...
It looks like they want us to fight their war... Whereas we want them to fight our war... "
Great post Fabio.
RIP Alan |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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We support Iraq in the fight against Islamic state. We don't like IS but Saudi Arabia do, and we like them.
We don't like Assad in Syria. We support fighting against him, which IS also are doing.
We don't like Iran, but they support Iraq against IS.
So some of our fiends support our enemies and some of our enemies are our friends and fighting against our other enemies who we want to lose BUT we don't want our enemies who are fighting our enemies to win.
If people we want to defeat are defeated we might be left with people we like less.
This was all started by the UK going in to relieve us of terrorists who weren't actually there - until we we in to remove them.
Not claiming that as my own assessment but it certainly captures what's going on. That's about it in a nutshell.
A huge vote winning fuck up for 2015. Humanitarian support is all we should be doing there. This is a war we cannot and will not win without great loss on the UK side and civilian casualties on their side. Neither are right.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Talk about playing into right wing shit like the BNP too.
I would feel very uncomfortable being a Muslim now in this country with so many loons ready to do their cowardly attacks too.
I was just listening to R5 Live and a couple of Muslims who spoke where absolutely horrified as they also mentioned that the fact Mr Hemming was delivering aid, was a more Muslim behaviour than the cowards who kidnapped and beheaded him.
I'm not religious in any way, but I'm half Pakistani and grew up in a relatively Islamic family... I get more and more terrified by the day. Although I was relatively young at the time, I genuinely feel that it's worse now than it was post 9/11.
Fair point.
But move to somewhere like Bradford and see how your other half feels.
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Don't really know what you mean by that... But I lived in Tower Hamlets (London) for a good long while and it has a higher density of South Asians than Bradford does. Second in England and Wales, only to Leicester... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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As soon as we started the air strikes, this was a foregone conclusion. My heart goes out to his family, he appears to be a totally selfless man, just trying to help people less fortunate then himself. However the people that did this cannot be bargained with, they cannot see any other point but their own and this will not be the last pointless death.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Unconfirmed news of Mr Alan Hemming.
Went to deliver aid in Syria when kidnapped by IS.
Cowardly bastards......
R.I.P. Mr Hemming. "
Was he the 70 year old man on the news today? |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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The more I hear about Alan henning the more I see the word "hero" is one that should be given to him...
The extra raising of money for aid for Syria by washing cars in his spare time, the fact this was his 4th trip, volunteer, aid worker, Good Samaritan...
The fact that he was actually found innocent of spying in a shariah court, and they acknowledged he was there was humanitarian reasons...
Doing good and trying to help the people of Syria, he even had "help for syria" tattooed on his arm...
This is one that has gotten worldwide attention.. Watching the American news channels and it is wall to wall... And glowing obituaries about him...
If anyone deserves a big celebration of his life it is him...
This one may backfire...
Rip a good man.... An individual who instead of sitting on his backside went out and did as much good as he could |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Once again, they are proving their religious philosophy of "peace and love" - let us drop some "cuddle bombs" on them, send some troops to give them some "peace and love" too.
We used to have a death cult like theirs.
They were called The Vikings.
But we all grew up and put away such childish things.
Every religion has its extremists and shouldn't be judged by their standards!
Condemn the person,not the religion. "
Well said. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The more I hear about Alan henning the more I see the word "hero" is one that should be given to him...
The extra raising of money for aid for Syria by washing cars in his spare time, the fact this was his 4th trip, volunteer, aid worker, Good Samaritan...
The fact that he was actually found innocent of spying in a shariah court, and they acknowledged he was there was humanitarian reasons...
Doing good and trying to help the people of Syria, he even had "help for syria" tattooed on his arm...
This is one that has gotten worldwide attention.. Watching the American news channels and it is wall to wall... And glowing obituaries about him...
If anyone deserves a big celebration of his life it is him...
This one may backfire...
Rip a good man.... An individual who instead of sitting on his backside went out and did as much good as he could"
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"The more I hear about Alan henning the more I see the word "hero" is one that should be given to him...
The extra raising of money for aid for Syria by washing cars in his spare time, the fact this was his 4th trip, volunteer, aid worker, Good Samaritan...
The fact that he was actually found innocent of spying in a shariah court, and they acknowledged he was there was humanitarian reasons...
Doing good and trying to help the people of Syria, he even had "help for syria" tattooed on his arm...
This is one that has gotten worldwide attention.. Watching the American news channels and it is wall to wall... And glowing obituaries about him...
If anyone deserves a big celebration of his life it is him...
This one may backfire...
Rip a good man.... An individual who instead of sitting on his backside went out and did as much good as he could"
you have my respect for that post ....a fitting tribute to a hero ...
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It's not backfiring Fabio, it's exactly what they want. Not belittling hemming. He's a star make no mistake. Yes a true hero for the position he put himself in.
He is also a real person, someone we all relate to, be it in press, media or personally. These people want to ignite that deep personal feeling. That then fuels out war, which then fuels their peoples war against us for attacking them. It's a horrible circle pit of deceit and big money deals. Like the 'hefty price we paid for Afghanistan' this and the previous Iraq war is no different. There are no winners here. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"A small nuke and jurn them into glass
What about all the innocent children and babies?"
Haven't they all been sold or married away?
It would be better to crop spray isis with hallucinogenic love drugs - perhaps cut with a little oestrogen and Viagra...
Get them to spread the love and maybe their buttocks for each other - then wake up after the orgy and take each other to the Sharia courts, or back to bed.
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Nothing will backfire. The West will behave as expected and the East who should be taking the lead regarding shit in their backyard will let them until its not convenient or there is a level of support from their own population. The Muslim religion is now truly being fucked in every way possible. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I have my _iews on the situation within the Arab world and especially the involvement of the West, but today my thoughts and comments are solely in support of the family of Alan Henning.
Many talk the talk, he walked the walk. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"A small nuke and jurn them into glass
What about all the innocent children and babies? do they care about them"
Its you suggesting the destruction of all the question was to you so? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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There are no words are there
this man has gone out in his own time to help the children of this war torn country and has payed for his generosity with his life
really what can you say |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"My only fear now is some idiot knuckle dragger will go out and do something equally idiotic against the Muslim community in this country as a "reprisal" "
I would say this is more than likely: the Lee Rigby killing, the Rochdale scandal and now the recent murders of the two British aid workers will give fuel to many extremist groups. Muslims in Britain must feel quite nervous at the moment. The stronger Muslim groups come out against IS, the better, I would suggest. That is a message that can only help |
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"A small nuke and jurn them into glass
What about all the innocent children and babies?
Haven't they all been sold or married away?
It would be better to crop spray isis with hallucinogenic love drugs - perhaps cut with a little oestrogen and Viagra...
Get them to spread the love and maybe their buttocks for each other - then wake up after the orgy and take each other to the Sharia courts, or back to bed.
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Actually what a very good idea, why do so called intelligent societies feel that gun powder and killing is the only method of conflict ?
I'd suggest the west are idiotic for jumping through the hoop and retaliating
War is no solution |
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I know alot of regiments have been put on high alert. so that may mean ground troops will be going in.
the main issue with sending in any kind of retaliation against a organisation such as IS is that they have very little money very few weapons and not a whole lot of "troops". so how do they retaliate against country's such as the US and the UK? well they use there love for terror and attack the civilians of the above country's.
so the only real option in my _iew is if they are sending troops in they have to hit very hard very fast and be sure there will be no retaliation. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Unfortunately they abide by the laws that where made up by a (dictater king) in Afghanistan and middle east took out the kind shit rape kill and beat there worman i bet this hemming guy wish it would end because of the suffering the british new they wouldn't be able to help him as its like a needle in a hey stack. isil should all be wiped out for this people shouldnt get them mixed up with normal Muslims or curds and so on they are going to get a wake up call when tutky sends in there troops we need other arab state's to follow this will bring to there demise hopefully as long as the British and amicans dont start of killing innercent people by accident which will be hard as there is a war going on |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Expect so see a lot more of it too, as long as it gets publicity they will keep at it."
Its a circle they still do it as they will be left to there own accord |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The 'nuke em' brigade are even more extreme than IS. They are also disrespectful to Alan Henning because they are in effect advocating the murder of the innocents he was dedicated to helping. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Go grab a handful of Ebola riddled Africans, ship them over there and let them do gods (not mohammed or allahs) work. Shouldn't take too long."
You should hang your head in shame.
You probably won't though. |
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"Go grab a handful of Ebola riddled Africans, ship them over there and let them do gods (not mohammed or allahs) work. Shouldn't take too long.
You should hang your head in shame.
You probably won't though. "
No comments on here surprise or shock me any more...it just highlights ignorance.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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we have to send in ground troops for the job but i really dont wanna see that happen. these beheading vids would be getting made daily if it did
caught between a rock and a hard place |
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"Go grab a handful of Ebola riddled Africans, ship them over there and let them do gods (not mohammed or allahs) work. Shouldn't take too long.
You should hang your head in shame.
You probably won't though. "
agreed, whatever the solution that is staggeringly stupid but sadly not a surprise.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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A combined un effort of special forces. Find them, infiltrate and massacre. The SAS, SBS, US Navy Seals, US delta force, australian special forces...Let them do what they are trained for... |
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I've seen 3 comments on Facebook saying they should spread Ebola over there and guess what 3 people are now off my friends list....I don't understand how by stopping down to the IS level will solve any of this "bloody" mess. |
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"I've seen 3 comments on Facebook saying they should spread Ebola over there and guess what 3 people are now off my friends list....I don't understand how by stopping down to the IS level will solve any of this "bloody" mess. "
it's just the way people forget about the innocent over there that gets me, I'm shocked how people see nothing wrong with bombing a village full of kids to get a few IS members scattered amongst them, does ebola have a homing device to only target IS members I wonder? |
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How many times was he warned of the dangers of going out to help?? Obviously the only ones in the wrong are the IS but before anyone jumps on the bandwagon of how harsh this sounds get yourself over there and try and help |
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"I've seen 3 comments on Facebook saying they should spread Ebola over there and guess what 3 people are now off my friends list....I don't understand how by stopping down to the IS level will solve any of this "bloody" mess. "
thing is whilst I share your dismay at some who think along those lines I wouldn't be surprised that in some 'think tank' in some countries such thoughts are commonplace as a means to 'resolve' a situation.. |
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"How many times was he warned of the dangers of going out to help?? Obviously the only ones in the wrong are the IS but before anyone jumps on the bandwagon of how harsh this sounds get yourself over there and try and help "
i guess that just goes to show that some people are better than us and some will put helping others before their own safety |
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They are well funded and organised the longer we leave them the stronger they will get, But am sure the people at the top are working on how to stop them |
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"They are well funded and organised the longer we leave them the stronger they will get, But am sure the people at the top are working on how to stop them"
yep one would think so but the recent evidence for the West's solution to issue's in that region don't exactly give confidence.. |
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"I've seen 3 comments on Facebook saying they should spread Ebola over there and guess what 3 people are now off my friends list....I don't understand how by stopping down to the IS level will solve any of this "bloody" mess.
thing is whilst I share your dismay at some who think along those lines I wouldn't be surprised that in some 'think tank' in some countries such thoughts are commonplace as a means to 'resolve' a situation.. "
I totally agree with you I'm sure it's been spoken about while a few whiskey have been poured. I don't know what the solution is but I can only hope that some bright spark will think of one soon. |
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"How many times was he warned of the dangers of going out to help?? Obviously the only ones in the wrong are the IS but before anyone jumps on the bandwagon of how harsh this sounds get yourself over there and try and help "
He was warned but I guess he thought with his heart first....he put other's need in front of his own safety |
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"How many times was he warned of the dangers of going out to help?? Obviously the only ones in the wrong are the IS but before anyone jumps on the bandwagon of how harsh this sounds get yourself over there and try and help
i guess that just goes to show that some people are better than us and some will put helping others before their own safety"
I guess others put people they don't know above their own family. .. i don't think that makes him a better person |
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"How many times was he warned of the dangers of going out to help?? Obviously the only ones in the wrong are the IS but before anyone jumps on the bandwagon of how harsh this sounds get yourself over there and try and help
i guess that just goes to show that some people are better than us and some will put helping others before their own safety
I guess others put people they don't know above their own family. .. i don't think that makes him a better person "
not sure I agree, he had been there 3 times and had come home safe after helping others in a situation thankfully beyond most of our comprehension..
and something went wrong on his last trip clearly which his family will be haunted by but you could equally apply your logic to thousands of other folks who work everyday in professions where there is risk to themselves for the benefit of others..
someone has to do those jobs and they also have families and loved ones.. |
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Send in the helicopter gunships to every known position and follow up with troops to mop up any survivors.
There is no reasoning or negotiating with these people so it has to be a shoot on sight policy (which I believe is already the case).
Only a full scale operation to target them all at once will have any hope of disrupting their organisation and stop further recruitment. |
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Just rethought my post and whilst it was stupi/tongue in cheek, an extreme answer is required to deAl with the IS. How's about we go over there, install the fastest fibre broadband and let em have fabs to play on? They'd be too disrupted to do anything else.  |
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"I've seen 3 comments on Facebook saying they should spread Ebola over there and guess what 3 people are now off my friends list....I don't understand how by stopping down to the IS level will solve any of this "bloody" mess. "
I would argue that it's below the IS level. It does though highlight that extremism exists on both sides.
Extremists are the problem here. We need to take the lead on dealing with ours even when it comes to ridiculing extreme _iews on a swingers forum. The Arab world must be seen to take the lead on ridiculing it's extremists.
IS are winning the prooganda war for far too many in the Arabian peninsular. The tragic slaughter of Alan Henning cannot be justified by any authentic Muslim teaching. It is specifically un Islamic.
Jordan, UAE, Iran and others need to be seen as leading the fight against their own extremists and IS in both word and deed.
Until the average man living in Jordan who just happens to be an IS sympathiser is personally apalled by what has happened to an innocent aid worker and starts to stand up to 'his extremists' and ridicule them, IS will prosper.
My challenge to all of you, is to guard against 'our extremism', stand up to and challenge it wherever it raises it's head. Whether that be Fab, facebook or down the pub. |
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"How many times was he warned of the dangers of going out to help?? Obviously the only ones in the wrong are the IS but before anyone jumps on the bandwagon of how harsh this sounds get yourself over there and try and help
i guess that just goes to show that some people are better than us and some will put helping others before their own safety
I guess others put people they don't know above their own family. .. i don't think that makes him a better person
not sure I agree, he had been there 3 times and had come home safe after helping others in a situation thankfully beyond most of our comprehension..
and something went wrong on his last trip clearly which his family will be haunted by but you could equally apply your logic to thousands of other folks who work everyday in professions where there is risk to themselves for the benefit of others..
someone has to do those jobs and they also have families and loved ones.. "
i agree, on that logic you could say every firefighter who go into a burning building knows the risks and are putting others before their family
he did something I would never have the balls to do and I think that makes him a better person than me |
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There is extreme _iews on both sides but as long as the vast majority in this country are appalled by the depravity of IS then we will prevail history proves this .If we sink to their level we will lose the support of the Muslim community in this country and that could be dangerous |
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"Just rethought my post and whilst it was stupi/tongue in cheek, an extreme answer is required to deAl with the IS. How's about we go over there, install the fastest fibre broadband and let em have fabs to play on? They'd be too disrupted to do anything else. "
I respect you for rethinking your post and having the decency to say so. |
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"Extremism both sides??
Nor sure the last time I watched a christian blow up a plane or cut someone's head off..."
The passenger plane recently shot down over the Ukraine was most likely not shot down by Muslims. Are you suggesting Christians have never committed beheadings?
I have never seen a Muslim drop a nuke on a populated city.
We really need to work towards not seeing this as Muslim v Christianity, the problem here is extremism and extremism needs to be eventually beaten by it's own side. There are extremists on both sides. We are doing a better job of controlling ours, but we need to remain vigilant. |
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By *iewMan
over a year ago
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"Just rethought my post and whilst it was stupi/tongue in cheek, an extreme answer is required to deAl with the IS. How's about we go over there, install the fastest fibre broadband and let em have fabs to play on? They'd be too disrupted to do anything else.
I respect you for rethinking your post and having the decency to say so. "
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By *essiCouple
over a year ago
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"How many times was he warned of the dangers of going out to help?? Obviously the only ones in the wrong are the IS but before anyone jumps on the bandwagon of how harsh this sounds get yourself over there and try and help
i guess that just goes to show that some people are better than us and some will put helping others before their own safety
I guess others put people they don't know above their own family. .. i don't think that makes him a better person "
I heard that he was targeted and captured less than an hour into his arriving there....... they are watching constantly for whom they can capture next it would seem.. |
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"Extremism both sides??
Nor sure the last time I watched a christian blow up a plane or cut someone's head off...
The passenger plane recently shot down over the Ukraine was most likely not shot down by Muslims. Are you suggesting Christians have never committed beheadings?
I have never seen a Muslim drop a nuke on a populated city.
We really need to work towards not seeing this as Muslim v Christianity, the problem here is extremism and extremism needs to be eventually beaten by it's own side. There are extremists on both sides. We are doing a better job of controlling ours, but we need to remain vigilant. "
Of course there are extremists on both sides as there are in any society, religion or colour.
Let me know when your local vicar starts preaching hatred and tries to introduce a law that puts women as 2nd class citizens. .. There is absolutely no comparison
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Of course there are extremists on both sides as there are in any society, religion or colour.
Let me know when your local vicar starts preaching hatred and tries to introduce a law that puts women as 2nd class citizens. .. There is absolutely no comparison
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Have you heard of Reverend Robert West? Member of the BNP. Just ask any women who aspires to being a cardinal whether or not she feels like a second class citizen, that church law is already in place.
There can be comparisons, the key for both sides is to manage their extremists.
We have more control of ours, but we still have them.
I am in no way trying to play down the horror that is IS, but this is more complicated than the old Christian v Muslim saga. |
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