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"I agree with most of what they are doing but to post on Facebook puts what could be innocent peoples life's at risk.. I'd just send them to the police. "
But they aren't putting innocents on fb tho .... |
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"I agree with most of what they are doing but to post on Facebook puts what could be innocent peoples life's at risk.. I'd just send them to the police.
But they aren't putting innocents on fb tho ...."
I'm talking the about the offenders family's there is no protection for them.
A simple call to the police would allow them privacy and for them to extract the victim without a potential and dangerous witch hunt.
Like I said I'm right behind 90% of what he does! |
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"I agree with most of what they are doing but to post on Facebook puts what could be innocent peoples life's at risk.. I'd just send them to the police.
But they aren't putting innocents on fb tho ....
I'm talking the about the offenders family's there is no protection for them.
A simple call to the police would allow them privacy and for them to extract the victim without a potential and dangerous witch hunt.
Like I said I'm right behind 90% of what he does!"
I see where ur coming from .... |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"I agree with most of what they are doing but to post on Facebook puts what could be innocent peoples life's at risk.. I'd just send them to the police.
But they aren't putting innocents on fb tho ...."
But their families are. |
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"I agree with most of what they are doing but to post on Facebook puts what could be innocent peoples life's at risk.. I'd just send them to the police.
But they aren't putting innocents on fb tho ....
But their families are."
Have already realised that ....
But also have to think bout the families and the children they are targeting .... |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"I agree with most of what they are doing but to post on Facebook puts what could be innocent peoples life's at risk.. I'd just send them to the police.
But they aren't putting innocents on fb tho ....
But their families are.
Have already realised that ....
But also have to think bout the families and the children they are targeting ...."
There is no doubt about that, but I think there are better ways of doing it...turn them over to the police and let them deal with it rather than chance outing their innocent relatives. |
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"I agree with most of what they are doing but to post on Facebook puts what could be innocent peoples life's at risk.. I'd just send them to the police.
But they aren't putting innocents on fb tho ....
But their families are.
Have already realised that ....
But also have to think bout the families and the children they are targeting ...."
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"I agree with most of what they are doing but to post on Facebook puts what could be innocent peoples life's at risk.. I'd just send them to the police.
But they aren't putting innocents on fb tho ....
But their families are.
Have already realised that ....
But also have to think bout the families and the children they are targeting ....
There is no doubt about that, but I think there are better ways of doing it...turn them over to the police and let them deal with it rather than chance outing their innocent relatives."
Ppl always find out tho always .... |
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It's one of the most strange things if not the strangest thing ive ever seen on tv.
I agree in principle with what the guy is doing however not posting to facebook it could have major implications to family of the guy caught.
It's only a shame that the police don't have more resources to do this.
I also don't agree with them frog marching the guy through the estate in the way they just have drawing attention to him, many people were shouting out it could have easily turned nasty.
I can't beleive that over 2000 men were willing to have sex with a child!?!?.
A possible solution to the treatment of pedofile's possibly testing on them, and save a few animal in the process.
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"I agree with most of what they are doing but to post on Facebook puts what could be innocent peoples life's at risk.. I'd just send them to the police.
But they aren't putting innocents on fb tho ....
But their families are.
Have already realised that ....
But also have to think bout the families and the children they are targeting ....
There is no doubt about that, but I think there are better ways of doing it...turn them over to the police and let them deal with it rather than chance outing their innocent relatives.
Ppl always find out tho always ...."
After a normal process rather than a witch hunt yes.
I just don't agree that they should be chased through the streets while telling them they wont be safe if anyone found out why they were chasing him...and then to tell people to keep their kid away from them as he is a paedophile . They wanted something to happen by the looks of it, just like they want something to happen to them when posting the video on line.
If people did take matters into their own hands then innocent family members could end up on the receiving end too.
As I say, I think they should get the book thrown at them, but through the right channels.
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"It's one of the most strange things if not the strangest thing ive ever seen on tv.
I agree in principle with what the guy is doing however not posting to facebook it could have major implications to family of the guy caught.
It's only a shame that the police don't have more resources to do this.
I also don't agree with them frog marching the guy through the estate in the way they just have drawing attention to him, many people were shouting out it could have easily turned nasty.
I can't beleive that over 2000 men were willing to have sex with a child!?!?.
A possible solution to the treatment of pedofile's possibly testing on them, and save a few animal in the process.
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Surprised about the number? Given the opportunity anyone would do stupid things, specially guys. I have spoken to a lot of guys right here on fab about this subject and the opinion is 'if they could they would' but no one would openly admit it, just give them a bait and you will see how some people change. welcome to the weird fucked up world we live in.  |
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"It's one of the most strange things if not the strangest thing ive ever seen on tv.
I agree in principle with what the guy is doing however not posting to facebook it could have major implications to family of the guy caught.
It's only a shame that the police don't have more resources to do this.
I also don't agree with them frog marching the guy through the estate in the way they just have drawing attention to him, many people were shouting out it could have easily turned nasty.
I can't beleive that over 2000 men were willing to have sex with a child!?!?.
A possible solution to the treatment of pedofile's possibly testing on them, and save a few animal in the process.
Surprised about the number? Given the opportunity anyone would do stupid things, specially guys. I have spoken to a lot of guys right here on fab about this subject and the opinion is 'if they could they would' but no one would openly admit it, just give them a bait and you will see how some people change. welcome to the weird fucked up world we live in. "
Could you point that finger at people on this site about being a fucked up world can you openly say to friends and family that you are on a site that for all intents and purposes is a sex or for a better word sexually promiscuous site !!
I know I'm relatively new to this but I feel that some women put themselves at serious risk from not rights on this site and don't tell me there are no not rights on here, I only read today of a girl on this forum who admittedly was new went to a guys house and got the shit kicked out of her .
I'm having serious thoughts about this site and all the potential for risk and I know the nay Sayers on here will bleet some shit out about this post bit ask yourselves this both sexes !! Do u want to put your life in danger if the answer is yes then your a fool !!
I really think the only safe way to play is in a club I've only been to two but it felt secure as well as fun and nobody was put under any pressure to play |
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The only thing pedophiles deserve is a long drawn out painful death.
I recently went through the court process and they were found guilty on 6 charges ranging from rape of a minor too sexual assault of a minor, after all that he was sentenced to eight and a half years in prison,I've been told I'm lucky if he serves 4! |
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jeeeezzzzzzz its so horrible when you actually see it happening.
Really scary and very disturbing stuff
i still feel all strange and tense but fair play to the guy getting out ther making a difference How does he keep his temper i dont think i could help myself kicking fuk out of them
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I don't believe in witch hunts of any kind, I see pictures posted and shared on social media sites by people look this is a picture of Jamie Bulgar's killers as they are today...how do I know that it's them? I'm not going to share pictures of what could be innocent people as a child killer. As ruggers said I'm all for throwing the book at someone but through the correct channels. I've seen professionally first hand the devastation it has caused when someone has been mistaken for a pedophile...there was a witch hunt he was abused, assaulted etc and he was completely innocent as it was mistaken identity...i haven't watched the show yet I shall watch it this evening...the most horrific show I watched was when they were outing gay people in Russia while I know it's a complete different concept than outing a pedophile it was a witch hunt all the same. |
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I have no idea how he does it! I felt physically sick with every message. Even more so with the one who turned up to meet an autistic child and was never charged! And most of those convicted and found guilty got a suspended sentence!! The intent was there to have sex with a child but the sentences seem to say you didnt actually do it so thats ok!
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I didn't watch it. I am terrified at the ease with which adults can target kids online, and the ease with which kids can find themselves at risk because we as parents do not have the appropriate levels of security on the various devices they use.
However, I don't agree with vigilante action however bad the crime, it is a slippery slope, no matter how well intentioned it is. The police should be informed of any issues and due process followed to give the highest likelihood of a conviction in a court. |
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Stinson hunter is from nuneaton, but he travelled all over the country to "meet" with these so called men.
I agree with most posts on here, these men wouldn't have been caught by the police alone, but doing it so publicly was wrong.
Stinson had got balls I'll give him that |
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By *EXY50ishWoman
over a year ago
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"I don't believe in witch hunts of any kind, I see pictures posted and shared on social media sites by people look this is a picture of Jamie Bulgar's killers as they are today...how do I know that it's them? I'm not going to share pictures of what could be innocent people as a child killer. As ruggers said I'm all for throwing the book at someone but through the correct channels. I've seen professionally first hand the devastation it has caused when someone has been mistaken for a pedophile...there was a witch hunt he was abused, assaulted etc and he was completely innocent as it was mistaken identity...i haven't watched the show yet I shall watch it this evening...the most horrific show I watched was when they were outing gay people in Russia while I know it's a complete different concept than outing a pedophile it was a witch hunt all the same. "
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"I wonder where the pictures he uses come from and even though they are non-sexual how those kids and their families feel about being used as bait?"
I'm sure that he would of had to get written consent from the parents....surely! |
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"I don't believe in witch hunts of any kind, I see pictures posted and shared on social media sites by people look this is a picture of Jamie Bulgar's killers as they are today...how do I know that it's them? I'm not going to share pictures of what could be innocent people as a child killer. As ruggers said I'm all for throwing the book at someone but through the correct channels. I've seen professionally first hand the devastation it has caused when someone has been mistaken for a pedophile...there was a witch hunt he was abused, assaulted etc and he was completely innocent as it was mistaken identity...i haven't watched the show yet I shall watch it this evening...the most horrific show I watched was when they were outing gay people in Russia while I know it's a complete different concept than outing a pedophile it was a witch hunt all the same. "
Totally agree. The police are also highly critical of him because of his methods. At the end of the programme it detailed the sentencing of those entrapped, it would be interesting to know for what offences they were convicted.
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"I saw the last half hour of it, hadn't heard about this fella before, fair play to him for exposing these protected scum bags.
How are they protected? Just curious "
Those who are convicted are often given new identities, accommodation, their new identity kept secret so they aren't harassed by the public. Oh and in some cases re homed yards from schools. |
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"I saw the last half hour of it, hadn't heard about this fella before, fair play to him for exposing these protected scum bags.
How are they protected? Just curious
Those who are convicted are often given new identities, accommodation, their new identity kept secret so they aren't harassed by the public. Oh and in some cases re homed yards from schools."
Well having worked with sex offenders I can say that none are re housed near schools. Police are very strict on what area and where they are placed and need to approve the accommodation that is offered to them. They cannot bid on properties and suitable accommodation is found for them away from schools etc. New names are given to high profile cases and not to the average joe blogs that is convicted of sex offences. In high profile cases police and other agencies have a duty of care to protect those involved and yes new identities are given but this is to stop witch hunts etc...I'm not sticking up for them or condone what they have done but it's not for the general public to seek vengeance etc...they need to be dealt with by the correct manner and that is through the justice and then probation system... |
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"I saw the last half hour of it, hadn't heard about this fella before, fair play to him for exposing these protected scum bags.
How are they protected? Just curious
Those who are convicted are often given new identities, accommodation, their new identity kept secret so they aren't harassed by the public. Oh and in some cases re homed yards from schools.
Well having worked with sex offenders I can say that none are re housed near schools. Police are very strict on what area and where they are placed and need to approve the accommodation that is offered to them. They cannot bid on properties and suitable accommodation is found for them away from schools etc. New names are given to high profile cases and not to the average joe blogs that is convicted of sex offences. In high profile cases police and other agencies have a duty of care to protect those involved and yes new identities are given but this is to stop witch hunts etc...I'm not sticking up for them or condone what they have done but it's not for the general public to seek vengeance etc...they need to be dealt with by the correct manner and that is through the justice and then probation system..."
It has happened though, for whatever reason. Vengeance is a dangerous thing, but is bound to happen as I think the justice system is failing us, as said last night the police don't have the power/resources to deal with it effectively, and our courts are a joke, these people are a real danger to us and our children, they should never be granted freedom. |
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"I saw the last half hour of it, hadn't heard about this fella before, fair play to him for exposing these protected scum bags.
How are they protected? Just curious
Those who are convicted are often given new identities, accommodation, their new identity kept secret so they aren't harassed by the public. Oh and in some cases re homed yards from schools.
Well having worked with sex offenders I can say that none are re housed near schools. Police are very strict on what area and where they are placed and need to approve the accommodation that is offered to them. They cannot bid on properties and suitable accommodation is found for them away from schools etc. New names are given to high profile cases and not to the average joe blogs that is convicted of sex offences. In high profile cases police and other agencies have a duty of care to protect those involved and yes new identities are given but this is to stop witch hunts etc...I'm not sticking up for them or condone what they have done but it's not for the general public to seek vengeance etc...they need to be dealt with by the correct manner and that is through the justice and then probation system...
It has happened though, for whatever reason. Vengeance is a dangerous thing, but is bound to happen as I think the justice system is failing us, as said last night the police don't have the power/resources to deal with it effectively, and our courts are a joke, these people are a real danger to us and our children, they should never be granted freedom."
Well that's where rehabilitation comes into play....rather than lock them up forever which cost the tax payers millions it's about rehabilitating offenders back into the community...they are not just released and not monitored they have offender management teams....the PPU are involved etc and they are monitored...some of course slip through the net and reoffend then yes they should be dealt with accordingly. I worked with many sex offenders in my time and have seen far more with the right help and support become rehabilitated and have not re offended then gone to to work with agencies who work with sex offenders to help them understand the mind of a sex offenders I understand your point you are a dad and would never want to see harm to your child....and I get that. Police can't monitor those that have not been arrested there are many potential sex offenders walking about who have never been arrested and are not known to police so of course the police will not have the resources to monitor them because to the police they are unknown... |
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"It's a seemingly impossible situation that's for sure, don't see it getting any better
It is and with operation Yew tree around its gone into overdrive "
It's interesting though tvat operation yew tree linked arrests will inevitably see a thread on here almost sympathising with the accused and suggesting that it's unfair. It's a strange contradiction to threads like this |
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"It's a seemingly impossible situation that's for sure, don't see it getting any better
It is and with operation Yew tree around its gone into overdrive
It's interesting though tvat operation yew tree linked arrests will inevitably see a thread on here almost sympathising with the accused and suggesting that it's unfair. It's a strange contradiction to threads like this"
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I think its a very simple yet clever deception that if the police adopted is not that labour intensive could be centrally funded to move around the country to catch these vile people.
Not much chance of mistaken identity either.
The culprit is found on a dodgy site the txts clearly tell the offenders they are underage and are they sure. They often then send rude pics of themselves stating what they will do. Once confronted their poor excuses count for nothing. They could argue one was sent in error but not a continual stream.
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Terrible show and will complain about it. Vigilantes like this should face charges too, as should the vile paedos. And parents should control their kids appropriately. If you want less police to investigate you know who's cut thousands and which political party is promising to cut thousands more. Vote according to your morals and sense.
As I said in another thread, the disabled man who was burned to death because thug vigilantes wrongly thought he was a paedo is evidence of why this mob rule behavior is completely wrong. And paediatricians, including females, who are attacked, shows why we can't allow anyone other than the correct authorities to manage this problem.
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"Terrible show and will complain about it. Vigilantes like this should face charges too, as should the vile paedos. And parents should control their kids appropriately. If you want less police to investigate you know who's cut thousands and which political party is promising to cut thousands more. Vote according to your morals and sense.
As I said in another thread, the disabled man who was burned to death because thug vigilantes wrongly thought he was a paedo is evidence of why this mob rule behavior is completely wrong. And paediatricians, including females, who are attacked, shows why we can't allow anyone other than the correct authorities to manage this problem.
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He showed great control and didn't batter them. He asked them to sit and explain why they was there. Whilst another contacts police. There is no chance these 'men' are suffering a case of mistaken identity being filmed turning up to an address they expect to find a child at. Without him doing what he has how many of these people would still remain unconvicted. |
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"Terrible show and will complain about it. Vigilantes like this should face charges too, as should the vile paedos. And parents should control their kids appropriately. If you want less police to investigate you know who's cut thousands and which political party is promising to cut thousands more. Vote according to your morals and sense.
As I said in another thread, the disabled man who was burned to death because thug vigilantes wrongly thought he was a paedo is evidence of why this mob rule behavior is completely wrong. And paediatricians, including females, who are attacked, shows why we can't allow anyone other than the correct authorities to manage this problem.
He showed great control and didn't batter them. He asked them to sit and explain why they was there. Whilst another contacts police. There is no chance these 'men' are suffering a case of mistaken identity being filmed turning up to an address they expect to find a child at. Without him doing what he has how many of these people would still remain unconvicted. "
How are we to know that these people were not already being watched by the police who were collecting sufficient evidence to ensure a proper conviction without a lawyer claiming entrapment etc? While well intentioned, I would not encourage this type of vigilante behaviour. |
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"Terrible show and will complain about it. Vigilantes like this should face charges too, as should the vile paedos. And parents should control their kids appropriately. If you want less police to investigate you know who's cut thousands and which political party is promising to cut thousands more. Vote according to your morals and sense.
As I said in another thread, the disabled man who was burned to death because thug vigilantes wrongly thought he was a paedo is evidence of why this mob rule behavior is completely wrong. And paediatricians, including females, who are attacked, shows why we can't allow anyone other than the correct authorities to manage this problem.
He showed great control and didn't batter them. He asked them to sit and explain why they was there. Whilst another contacts police. There is no chance these 'men' are suffering a case of mistaken identity being filmed turning up to an address they expect to find a child at. Without him doing what he has how many of these people would still remain unconvicted.
How are we to know that these people were not already being watched by the police who were collecting sufficient evidence to ensure a proper conviction without a lawyer claiming entrapment etc? While well intentioned, I would not encourage this type of vigilante behaviour. "
How can they claim entrapment. They all made their own choice to contact a child. They then continued the conversation knowing it was with a child. Most sent explicit pictures to a child. Turned up with booze to meet a child. At any point they could have said enoughs enough this is wrong. They wasnt approached or coerced into any of their choices!
One thing the wife of the bloke that killed himself said made me angry towards her! She said he thinks he's protecting children from these men but what about a 'real' child. What about my children growing up without their dad!
A) you'd knowingly have someone who has groomed a child around your kids??
B) are the victims not 'real'
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what about the bloke that said as it was an over 18s site he assumed it was fantasy and role play and was not actually expecting to meet a child. Most likely bullshit of course but a decent defence lawyer would be able to use it.
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"Terrible show and will complain about it. Vigilantes like this should face charges too, as should the vile paedos. And parents should control their kids appropriately. If you want less police to investigate you know who's cut thousands and which political party is promising to cut thousands more. Vote according to your morals and sense.
As I said in another thread, the disabled man who was burned to death because thug vigilantes wrongly thought he was a paedo is evidence of why this mob rule behavior is completely wrong. And paediatricians, including females, who are attacked, shows why we can't allow anyone other than the correct authorities to manage this problem.
He showed great control and didn't batter them. He asked them to sit and explain why they was there. Whilst another contacts police. There is no chance these 'men' are suffering a case of mistaken identity being filmed turning up to an address they expect to find a child at. Without him doing what he has how many of these people would still remain unconvicted.
How are we to know that these people were not already being watched by the police who were collecting sufficient evidence to ensure a proper conviction without a lawyer claiming entrapment etc? While well intentioned, I would not encourage this type of vigilante behaviour. "
I agree. The police have repeatedly critised him for this very reason.
Plus only the most stupid would fall for the entrapment. Sadly most predators are way cleverer than that |
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"what about the bloke that said as it was an over 18s site he assumed it was fantasy and role play and was not actually expecting to meet a child. Most likely bullshit of course but a decent defence lawyer would be able to use it.
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I'm 5 mins in and already I don't like the bloke who is doing it, they are sticking them on Facebook....regardless what the blokes do these blokes have families etc who often don't have a clue is it fair on them... |
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"I'm 5 mins in and already I don't like the bloke who is doing it, they are sticking them on Facebook....regardless what the blokes do these blokes have families etc who often don't have a clue is it fair on them..."
So do the victims. |
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"I'm 5 mins in and already I don't like the bloke who is doing it, they are sticking them on Facebook....regardless what the blokes do these blokes have families etc who often don't have a clue is it fair on them...
So do the victims."
Yes so does the victims, I get that but you have to see from both sides...wives/girlfriends often don't know what the bloke does and they have to face the abuse and the threats etc....I'm all for protecting the victims but I'm all for protecting the families who don't have a clue what their other half is up to...bring the perpetrators to justice but there are other ways to do that. |
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"I wonder if minds would change if it happened to their own child ....."
would 'change' how exactly..?
pretty much everyone is saying that these people who were caught by these guys and had shown themselves to have some pretty sick idea's are wrong and their actions deserve to be dealt with as per the system ..
not sure what you mean about minds would change..?
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Whether exposed on Facebook or not the general public always find out who they are and who the families are no one is a winner in this situation either ther perpetrators family or the victims family ...... |
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"Whether exposed on Facebook or not the general public always find out who they are and who the families are no one is a winner in this situation either ther perpetrators family or the victims family ......"
But if they are guilty the public deserve to know who they are in order to protect their children???? |
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I've just watched it. I feel for the guy, he is clearly very damaged and has suffered and witnessed abuse himself.
I'm so shocked by it all. I found it extremely depressing especially as a mother. |
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