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"I know there is biggles. I've suffered pretty much my hole life and it is only the last few months I've learnt how to live with it and what makes me feel better and what makes me feel wores. Sex most definitely makes me ferl better "I know i used to feel the same if i had no sex for a while and have a massive buzz for a few days after sex i be in great form just a very high sex drive i think well for me anyway. | |||
"No sex = depression "er no. If it were the cure all no on would be depressed. | |||
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"I know there is biggles. I've suffered pretty much my hole life and it is only the last few months I've learnt how to live with it and what makes me feel better and what makes me feel wores. Sex most definitely makes me ferl better "I personally don`t think you are in the right place mentally to be on a site like this. Your looking for escapism nad you think sex with strangers is going to help heal you and help with your depression. In my opinion your playing a dangerous game with your fragile state of mind and I would suggest you take time out from places like this, get to know yourself again,find yourself and your own happiness and contentment. Then when you are strong enough and out of that dark place maybe then you will be strong enough to make the correct decisions in what it is in life that truly adds to your own personal happiness and not just using places like this as a fix or a plaster to cover over your pain. This in my opinion would only make your depression and feeling of self loathing worse. Take time out, find yourself again and the inner peace you deserve. This is just my opinion for what its worth. | |||
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"Yes I have sufferd with depressiin for years and had twk breakdowns due to stress. Sex is a major release as it helps reduce stress. However dont just rely on sex to help you my horses are great at winding me down "It hasnt helped my spelling though!  | |||
"I know there is biggles. I've suffered pretty much my hole life and it is only the last few months I've learnt how to live with it and what makes me feel better and what makes me feel wores. Sex most definitely makes me ferl better
I personally don`t think you are in the right place mentally to be on a site like this. Your looking for escapism nad you think sex with strangers is going to help heal you and help with your depression. In my opinion your playing a dangerous game with your fragile state of mind and I would suggest you take time out from places like this, get to know yourself again,find yourself and your own happiness and contentment. Then when you are strong enough and out of that dark place maybe then you will be strong enough to make the correct decisions in what it is in life that truly adds to your own personal happiness and not just using places like this as a fix or a plaster to cover over your pain. This in my opinion would only make your depression and feeling of self loathing worse.
Take time out, find yourself again and the inner peace you deserve.
This is just my opinion for what its worth. "I'm actually not in a dark place and I know myself better than I ever have. I don't have a single ounce of self loathing. I like myself very much. I'm not bipolar as someone suggested because I don't get the highs. I'm eiyhe content or low or depressed. I'm actually at a good point in my life. | |||
"I know this sounds daft T, but maybe you actually need to find an active sport to do too, in the good times and the bad. I think that this my not just be depression but the other thing..... x" What is this sport thing of which you speak lol | |||
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"I know there is biggles. I've suffered pretty much my hole life and it is only the last few months I've learnt how to live with it and what makes me feel better and what makes me feel wores. Sex most definitely makes me ferl better
I personally don`t think you are in the right place mentally to be on a site like this. Your looking for escapism nad you think sex with strangers is going to help heal you and help with your depression. In my opinion your playing a dangerous game with your fragile state of mind and I would suggest you take time out from places like this, get to know yourself again,find yourself and your own happiness and contentment. Then when you are strong enough and out of that dark place maybe then you will be strong enough to make the correct decisions in what it is in life that truly adds to your own personal happiness and not just using places like this as a fix or a plaster to cover over your pain. This in my opinion would only make your depression and feeling of self loathing worse.
Take time out, find yourself again and the inner peace you deserve.
This is just my opinion for what its worth.
I'm actually not in a dark place and I know myself better than I ever have. I don't have a single ounce of self loathing.
I like myself very much.
I'm not bipolar as someone suggested because I don't get the highs. I'm eiyhe content or low or depressed.
I'm actually at a good point in my life."Im happy that you feel your at a good place in your life. But how strong are you feeling? Do you think it wouldn`t take too much to knock you off kilter? Because you have to be a very strong person to cope in this type of environment and lifestyle. In my opinion Its not the right place for people who have a fragile state of mind etc. This is only my opinion of course | |||
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"I know there is biggles. I've suffered pretty much my hole life and it is only the last few months I've learnt how to live with it and what makes me feel better and what makes me feel wores. Sex most definitely makes me ferl better
I personally don`t think you are in the right place mentally to be on a site like this. Your looking for escapism nad you think sex with strangers is going to help heal you and help with your depression. In my opinion your playing a dangerous game with your fragile state of mind and I would suggest you take time out from places like this, get to know yourself again,find yourself and your own happiness and contentment. Then when you are strong enough and out of that dark place maybe then you will be strong enough to make the correct decisions in what it is in life that truly adds to your own personal happiness and not just using places like this as a fix or a plaster to cover over your pain. This in my opinion would only make your depression and feeling of self loathing worse.
Take time out, find yourself again and the inner peace you deserve.
This is just my opinion for what its worth.
I'm actually not in a dark place and I know myself better than I ever have. I don't have a single ounce of self loathing.
I like myself very much.
I'm not bipolar as someone suggested because I don't get the highs. I'm eiyhe content or low or depressed.
I'm actually at a good point in my life.
Im happy that you feel your at a good place in your life.
But how strong are you feeling? Do you think it wouldn`t take too much to knock you off kilter?
Because you have to be a very strong person to cope in this type of environment and lifestyle. In my opinion Its not the right place for people who have a fragile state of mind etc.
This is only my opinion of course"I understand that but my mind is no longer fragile. I am a very strong person and it will take a hell if a lot to knock me back down into the dark place I once was. It was a scary world for a while and I have no intention of putting myself in a position that may send me into a spiral back down there | |||
"If I don't get it for a while I get agitated but wouldn't say depressed...I'm getting some on Thursday so that should keep me going for a bit "I don't get depressed just low | |||
"Yup had it since I was 18. But exercise has helped me control it and feel better," This is a very good point, if you can get up to a certain level it really does produce endorphins which have so many beneficial effects on mind and body. I do about 45 mins front crawl in the pool several days a week, and an energetic type of dance for several hours at a time, and both leave me feeling great, it's quite addictive! Also both very good for dissipating the horn, haha! | |||
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"I know there is biggles. I've suffered pretty much my hole life and it is only the last few months I've learnt how to live with it and what makes me feel better and what makes me feel wores. Sex most definitely makes me ferl better
I personally don`t think you are in the right place mentally to be on a site like this. Your looking for escapism nad you think sex with strangers is going to help heal you and help with your depression. In my opinion your playing a dangerous game with your fragile state of mind and I would suggest you take time out from places like this, get to know yourself again,find yourself and your own happiness and contentment. Then when you are strong enough and out of that dark place maybe then you will be strong enough to make the correct decisions in what it is in life that truly adds to your own personal happiness and not just using places like this as a fix or a plaster to cover over your pain. This in my opinion would only make your depression and feeling of self loathing worse.
Take time out, find yourself again and the inner peace you deserve.
This is just my opinion for what its worth.
I'm actually not in a dark place and I know myself better than I ever have. I don't have a single ounce of self loathing.
I like myself very much.
I'm not bipolar as someone suggested because I don't get the highs. I'm eiyhe content or low or depressed.
I'm actually at a good point in my life.
Im happy that you feel your at a good place in your life.
But how strong are you feeling? Do you think it wouldn`t take too much to knock you off kilter?
Because you have to be a very strong person to cope in this type of environment and lifestyle. In my opinion Its not the right place for people who have a fragile state of mind etc.
This is only my opinion of course"That's an amazing talent to be able to fully assess someone's state of mind, know what they do and don't need and what's best for them from a few words on a forum. You can only speak for yourself on how you find this site and this lifestyle. You can't possibly know how others find it or how they feel about it. I'm sure you were trying to help but I find your posts to be presumptuous at best. You're not in a position to tell a stranger what they need or diagnose that they have a fragile state of mind. This idea that people with mental health issues are all weak and need other "normal" people to tell them what's best for them, is one of the incorrect, archaic _iews of mental health issues that exists along with the outdated stigma. | |||
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"I became depressed about 5 years ago, which cost me my marrage. The split made me more depressed, I was thinking about suicide for a while. While I still dont have a job, I've started college and hopefully can restart my life. Now it's just the bone crushing lonliness that brings me down "Suicide is the worst thought ever and I wrote poems to get me through those points. | |||
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"I know there is biggles. I've suffered pretty much my hole life and it is only the last few months I've learnt how to live with it and what makes me feel better and what makes me feel wores. Sex most definitely makes me ferl better
I personally don`t think you are in the right place mentally to be on a site like this. Your looking for escapism nad you think sex with strangers is going to help heal you and help with your depression. In my opinion your playing a dangerous game with your fragile state of mind and I would suggest you take time out from places like this, get to know yourself again,find yourself and your own happiness and contentment. Then when you are strong enough and out of that dark place maybe then you will be strong enough to make the correct decisions in what it is in life that truly adds to your own personal happiness and not just using places like this as a fix or a plaster to cover over your pain. This in my opinion would only make your depression and feeling of self loathing worse.
Take time out, find yourself again and the inner peace you deserve.
This is just my opinion for what its worth.
I'm actually not in a dark place and I know myself better than I ever have. I don't have a single ounce of self loathing.
I like myself very much.
I'm not bipolar as someone suggested because I don't get the highs. I'm eiyhe content or low or depressed.
I'm actually at a good point in my life.
Im happy that you feel your at a good place in your life.
But how strong are you feeling? Do you think it wouldn`t take too much to knock you off kilter?
Because you have to be a very strong person to cope in this type of environment and lifestyle. In my opinion Its not the right place for people who have a fragile state of mind etc.
This is only my opinion of course
I understand that but my mind is no longer fragile.
I am a very strong person and it will take a hell if a lot to knock me back down into the dark place I once was.
It was a scary world for a while and I have no intention of putting myself in a position that may send me into a spiral back down there"I agree with a couple of posts in here about excersise, have you considered going for long walks or swimming or joining a gym to up your moods and take the focus off sex? Sex shouldn`t be used as a tool to lift depression and if the lack of it is making you feel down as you pointed out.That in my opinion isn`t healthy and try not to focus on sex as a cure to help with your mood. Theres obviously still issues regarding your depression that still need to be addressed and this is why your using sex to help stabalise your mood. Like the other posts said, try and ellevate your moods via excersise to release the feel good endorphines and not use sex as a sticking plaster for your moods. People with depression often have addicted personalities, they swop one addiction for another in the hope that its a magic cure to help them feel better. But unfortunately all it does is stop the person from addressing their own personal demons. | |||
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"I know there is biggles. I've suffered pretty much my hole life and it is only the last few months I've learnt how to live with it and what makes me feel better and what makes me feel wores. Sex most definitely makes me ferl better
I personally don`t think you are in the right place mentally to be on a site like this. Your looking for escapism nad you think sex with strangers is going to help heal you and help with your depression. In my opinion your playing a dangerous game with your fragile state of mind and I would suggest you take time out from places like this, get to know yourself again,find yourself and your own happiness and contentment. Then when you are strong enough and out of that dark place maybe then you will be strong enough to make the correct decisions in what it is in life that truly adds to your own personal happiness and not just using places like this as a fix or a plaster to cover over your pain. This in my opinion would only make your depression and feeling of self loathing worse.
Take time out, find yourself again and the inner peace you deserve.
This is just my opinion for what its worth.
I'm actually not in a dark place and I know myself better than I ever have. I don't have a single ounce of self loathing.
I like myself very much.
I'm not bipolar as someone suggested because I don't get the highs. I'm eiyhe content or low or depressed.
I'm actually at a good point in my life.
Im happy that you feel your at a good place in your life.
But how strong are you feeling? Do you think it wouldn`t take too much to knock you off kilter?
Because you have to be a very strong person to cope in this type of environment and lifestyle. In my opinion Its not the right place for people who have a fragile state of mind etc.
This is only my opinion of course
That's an amazing talent to be able to fully assess someone's state of mind, know what they do and don't need and what's best for them from a few words on a forum.
You can only speak for yourself on how you find this site and this lifestyle. You can't possibly know how others find it or how they feel about it.
I'm sure you were trying to help but I find your posts to be presumptuous at best. You're not in a position to tell a stranger what they need or diagnose that they have a fragile state of mind.
This idea that people with mental health issues are all weak and need other "normal" people to tell them what's best for them, is one of the incorrect, archaic _iews of mental health issues that exists along with the outdated stigma."I`m talking from a lifes time of experience my love !! Thats why I have posted... Just my opinion! Everyone deals with depression in their own way, but sometimes you cant see the woods for the trees at the time and other sufferers can only give their take on what they did to help them cope with their depression and what situations and the type of people to avoid as to not add to put them in situations that may have a negative impact. Again this is only my opinion from my own experience. | |||
"I know there is biggles. I've suffered pretty much my hole life and it is only the last few months I've learnt how to live with it and what makes me feel better and what makes me feel wores. Sex most definitely makes me ferl better
I personally don`t think you are in the right place mentally to be on a site like this. Your looking for escapism nad you think sex with strangers is going to help heal you and help with your depression. In my opinion your playing a dangerous game with your fragile state of mind and I would suggest you take time out from places like this, get to know yourself again,find yourself and your own happiness and contentment. Then when you are strong enough and out of that dark place maybe then you will be strong enough to make the correct decisions in what it is in life that truly adds to your own personal happiness and not just using places like this as a fix or a plaster to cover over your pain. This in my opinion would only make your depression and feeling of self loathing worse.
Take time out, find yourself again and the inner peace you deserve.
This is just my opinion for what its worth.
I'm actually not in a dark place and I know myself better than I ever have. I don't have a single ounce of self loathing.
I like myself very much.
I'm not bipolar as someone suggested because I don't get the highs. I'm eiyhe content or low or depressed.
I'm actually at a good point in my life.
Im happy that you feel your at a good place in your life.
But how strong are you feeling? Do you think it wouldn`t take too much to knock you off kilter?
Because you have to be a very strong person to cope in this type of environment and lifestyle. In my opinion Its not the right place for people who have a fragile state of mind etc.
This is only my opinion of course
I understand that but my mind is no longer fragile.
I am a very strong person and it will take a hell if a lot to knock me back down into the dark place I once was.
It was a scary world for a while and I have no intention of putting myself in a position that may send me into a spiral back down there
I agree with a couple of posts in here about excersise, have you considered going for long walks or swimming or joining a gym to up your moods and take the focus off sex? Sex shouldn`t be used as a tool to lift depression and if the lack of it is making you feel down as you pointed out.That in my opinion isn`t healthy and try not to focus on sex as a cure to help with your mood.
Theres obviously still issues regarding your depression that still need to be addressed and this is why your using sex to help stabalise your mood.
Like the other posts said, try and ellevate your moods via excersise to release the feel good endorphines and not use sex as a sticking plaster for your moods.
People with depression often have addicted personalities, they swop one addiction for another in the hope that its a magic cure to help them feel better. But unfortunately all it does is stop the person from addressing their own personal demons. "I get where you are coming from but I don't use sex to fix how I feel. I enjoy sex much more than going to the gym. I don't actually have an addictive personality. I don't smoke I only drink socially I don't take drugs. I do eat a lot of chocolate though but I'm not addicted. | |||
"I know there is biggles. I've suffered pretty much my hole life and it is only the last few months I've learnt how to live with it and what makes me feel better and what makes me feel wores. Sex most definitely makes me ferl better
I personally don`t think you are in the right place mentally to be on a site like this. Your looking for escapism nad you think sex with strangers is going to help heal you and help with your depression. In my opinion your playing a dangerous game with your fragile state of mind and I would suggest you take time out from places like this, get to know yourself again,find yourself and your own happiness and contentment. Then when you are strong enough and out of that dark place maybe then you will be strong enough to make the correct decisions in what it is in life that truly adds to your own personal happiness and not just using places like this as a fix or a plaster to cover over your pain. This in my opinion would only make your depression and feeling of self loathing worse.
Take time out, find yourself again and the inner peace you deserve.
This is just my opinion for what its worth.
I'm actually not in a dark place and I know myself better than I ever have. I don't have a single ounce of self loathing.
I like myself very much.
I'm not bipolar as someone suggested because I don't get the highs. I'm eiyhe content or low or depressed.
I'm actually at a good point in my life.
Im happy that you feel your at a good place in your life.
But how strong are you feeling? Do you think it wouldn`t take too much to knock you off kilter?
Because you have to be a very strong person to cope in this type of environment and lifestyle. In my opinion Its not the right place for people who have a fragile state of mind etc.
This is only my opinion of course
I understand that but my mind is no longer fragile.
I am a very strong person and it will take a hell if a lot to knock me back down into the dark place I once was.
It was a scary world for a while and I have no intention of putting myself in a position that may send me into a spiral back down there
I agree with a couple of posts in here about excersise, have you considered going for long walks or swimming or joining a gym to up your moods and take the focus off sex? Sex shouldn`t be used as a tool to lift depression and if the lack of it is making you feel down as you pointed out.That in my opinion isn`t healthy and try not to focus on sex as a cure to help with your mood.
Theres obviously still issues regarding your depression that still need to be addressed and this is why your using sex to help stabalise your mood.
Like the other posts said, try and ellevate your moods via excersise to release the feel good endorphines and not use sex as a sticking plaster for your moods.
People with depression often have addicted personalities, they swop one addiction for another in the hope that its a magic cure to help them feel better. But unfortunately all it does is stop the person from addressing their own personal demons. "Getting agitated or down because of lack of sex is not the same as using sex to elevate one's mood  | |||
"I've suffered for years but finally have it under control after a major breakdown and hospitalisation the beginning of 2013. However I get really low when I don't get enough sex. Does anyone else have this even if not a sufferer? " I've been there most of my life and it doesn't matter how much sex I'm getting, it doesn't stop the crash and burn, and there's no getting aroused when you're majorly depressed. However, it does provide a great mood lifter when you're generally low. What's important is that you don't obsess when you're not getting any! | |||
"I know there is biggles. I've suffered pretty much my hole life and it is only the last few months I've learnt how to live with it and what makes me feel better and what makes me feel wores. Sex most definitely makes me ferl better
I personally don`t think you are in the right place mentally to be on a site like this. Your looking for escapism nad you think sex with strangers is going to help heal you and help with your depression. In my opinion your playing a dangerous game with your fragile state of mind and I would suggest you take time out from places like this, get to know yourself again,find yourself and your own happiness and contentment. Then when you are strong enough and out of that dark place maybe then you will be strong enough to make the correct decisions in what it is in life that truly adds to your own personal happiness and not just using places like this as a fix or a plaster to cover over your pain. This in my opinion would only make your depression and feeling of self loathing worse.
Take time out, find yourself again and the inner peace you deserve.
This is just my opinion for what its worth.
I'm actually not in a dark place and I know myself better than I ever have. I don't have a single ounce of self loathing.
I like myself very much.
I'm not bipolar as someone suggested because I don't get the highs. I'm eiyhe content or low or depressed.
I'm actually at a good point in my life.
Im happy that you feel your at a good place in your life.
But how strong are you feeling? Do you think it wouldn`t take too much to knock you off kilter?
Because you have to be a very strong person to cope in this type of environment and lifestyle. In my opinion Its not the right place for people who have a fragile state of mind etc.
This is only my opinion of course
That's an amazing talent to be able to fully assess someone's state of mind, know what they do and don't need and what's best for them from a few words on a forum.
You can only speak for yourself on how you find this site and this lifestyle. You can't possibly know how others find it or how they feel about it.
I'm sure you were trying to help but I find your posts to be presumptuous at best. You're not in a position to tell a stranger what they need or diagnose that they have a fragile state of mind.
This idea that people with mental health issues are all weak and need other "normal" people to tell them what's best for them, is one of the incorrect, archaic _iews of mental health issues that exists along with the outdated stigma.
I`m talking from a lifes time of experience my love !!
Thats why I have posted... Just my opinion!
Everyone deals with depression in their own way, but sometimes you cant see the woods for the trees at the time and other sufferers can only give their take on what they did to help them cope with their depression and what situations and the type of people to avoid as to not add to put them in situations that may have a negative impact.
Again this is only my opinion from my own experience. "Your *own* experience. Not everyone is the same as you! Stop being patronising. | |||
"I've suffered for years but finally have it under control after a major breakdown and hospitalisation the beginning of 2013. However I get really low when I don't get enough sex. Does anyone else have this even if not a sufferer? I've been there most of my life and it doesn't matter how much sex I'm getting, it doesn't stop the crash and burn, and there's no getting aroused when you're majorly depressed. However, it does provide a great mood lifter when you're generally low. What's important is that you don't obsess when you're not getting any!" | |||
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"I've suffered for years but finally have it under control after a major breakdown and hospitalisation the beginning of 2013. However I get really low when I don't get enough sex. Does anyone else have this even if not a sufferer? I've been there most of my life and it doesn't matter how much sex I'm getting, it doesn't stop the crash and burn, and there's no getting aroused when you're majorly depressed. However, it does provide a great mood lifter when you're generally low. What's important is that you don't obsess when you're not getting any! ". Just buy a toy, and concentrate on yourself | |||
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"I know there is biggles. I've suffered pretty much my hole life and it is only the last few months I've learnt how to live with it and what makes me feel better and what makes me feel wores. Sex most definitely makes me ferl better
I personally don`t think you are in the right place mentally to be on a site like this. Your looking for escapism nad you think sex with strangers is going to help heal you and help with your depression. In my opinion your playing a dangerous game with your fragile state of mind and I would suggest you take time out from places like this, get to know yourself again,find yourself and your own happiness and contentment. Then when you are strong enough and out of that dark place maybe then you will be strong enough to make the correct decisions in what it is in life that truly adds to your own personal happiness and not just using places like this as a fix or a plaster to cover over your pain. This in my opinion would only make your depression and feeling of self loathing worse.
Take time out, find yourself again and the inner peace you deserve.
This is just my opinion for what its worth.
I'm actually not in a dark place and I know myself better than I ever have. I don't have a single ounce of self loathing.
I like myself very much.
I'm not bipolar as someone suggested because I don't get the highs. I'm eiyhe content or low or depressed.
I'm actually at a good point in my life.
Im happy that you feel your at a good place in your life.
But how strong are you feeling? Do you think it wouldn`t take too much to knock you off kilter?
Because you have to be a very strong person to cope in this type of environment and lifestyle. In my opinion Its not the right place for people who have a fragile state of mind etc.
This is only my opinion of course
That's an amazing talent to be able to fully assess someone's state of mind, know what they do and don't need and what's best for them from a few words on a forum.
You can only speak for yourself on how you find this site and this lifestyle. You can't possibly know how others find it or how they feel about it.
I'm sure you were trying to help but I find your posts to be presumptuous at best. You're not in a position to tell a stranger what they need or diagnose that they have a fragile state of mind.
This idea that people with mental health issues are all weak and need other "normal" people to tell them what's best for them, is one of the incorrect, archaic _iews of mental health issues that exists along with the outdated stigma.
I`m talking from a lifes time of experience my love !!
Thats why I have posted... Just my opinion!
Everyone deals with depression in their own way, but sometimes you cant see the woods for the trees at the time and other sufferers can only give their take on what they did to help them cope with their depression and what situations and the type of people to avoid as to not add to put them in situations that may have a negative impact.
Again this is only my opinion from my own experience.
Your *own* experience. Not everyone is the same as you!
Stop being patronising."Nothing patronising in my posts, Like I said its only my personal opinion and from my own personal experience.Everyone has their own personal experiences of depression and what worked for them or friends and family sufferers.And we are all entitled to our own personal opinions and _iews. | |||
"I've suffered for years but finally have it under control after a major breakdown and hospitalisation the beginning of 2013. However I get really low when I don't get enough sex. Does anyone else have this even if not a sufferer? I've been there most of my life and it doesn't matter how much sex I'm getting, it doesn't stop the crash and burn, and there's no getting aroused when you're majorly depressed. However, it does provide a great mood lifter when you're generally low. What's important is that you don't obsess when you're not getting any!
. Just buy a toy, and concentrate on yourself "Lol I don't need them. I don't need sex either. I've made a fine art of putting my urges on hold and applying that energy in creative ways. | |||
"I know there is biggles. I've suffered pretty much my hole life and it is only the last few months I've learnt how to live with it and what makes me feel better and what makes me feel wores. Sex most definitely makes me ferl better
I personally don`t think you are in the right place mentally to be on a site like this. Your looking for escapism nad you think sex with strangers is going to help heal you and help with your depression. In my opinion your playing a dangerous game with your fragile state of mind and I would suggest you take time out from places like this, get to know yourself again,find yourself and your own happiness and contentment. Then when you are strong enough and out of that dark place maybe then you will be strong enough to make the correct decisions in what it is in life that truly adds to your own personal happiness and not just using places like this as a fix or a plaster to cover over your pain. This in my opinion would only make your depression and feeling of self loathing worse.
Take time out, find yourself again and the inner peace you deserve.
This is just my opinion for what its worth.
I'm actually not in a dark place and I know myself better than I ever have. I don't have a single ounce of self loathing.
I like myself very much.
I'm not bipolar as someone suggested because I don't get the highs. I'm eiyhe content or low or depressed.
I'm actually at a good point in my life.
Im happy that you feel your at a good place in your life.
But how strong are you feeling? Do you think it wouldn`t take too much to knock you off kilter?
Because you have to be a very strong person to cope in this type of environment and lifestyle. In my opinion Its not the right place for people who have a fragile state of mind etc.
This is only my opinion of course
That's an amazing talent to be able to fully assess someone's state of mind, know what they do and don't need and what's best for them from a few words on a forum.
You can only speak for yourself on how you find this site and this lifestyle. You can't possibly know how others find it or how they feel about it.
I'm sure you were trying to help but I find your posts to be presumptuous at best. You're not in a position to tell a stranger what they need or diagnose that they have a fragile state of mind.
This idea that people with mental health issues are all weak and need other "normal" people to tell them what's best for them, is one of the incorrect, archaic _iews of mental health issues that exists along with the outdated stigma.
I`m talking from a lifes time of experience my love !!
Thats why I have posted... Just my opinion!
Everyone deals with depression in their own way, but sometimes you cant see the woods for the trees at the time and other sufferers can only give their take on what they did to help them cope with their depression and what situations and the type of people to avoid as to not add to put them in situations that may have a negative impact.
Again this is only my opinion from my own experience.
Your *own* experience. Not everyone is the same as you!
Stop being patronising.
Nothing patronising in my posts, Like I said its only my personal opinion and from my own personal experience.Everyone has their own personal experiences of depression and what worked for them or friends and family sufferers.And we are all entitled to our own personal opinions and _iews."Everything about assuming you can tell a person's mental state from a few words and tell them what they should do is patronising. Telling someone this isn't the right place for them and isn't good for them is patronising. As is referring to me as "my love". The OP has been very tactful in telling you that your assumptions about her are wrong but you're not taking any notice and are blindly pushing ahead with your expert advice from your years of experience. You're being very presumptuous and patronising. | |||
"When I'm getting sex I want it, when I'm not I don't. But there is a transition period between the two states when I am not getting sex and foaming at the mouth with frustration. Just have to wait for it to pass." Also this is seriously worth noting. | |||
"I know there is biggles. I've suffered pretty much my hole life and it is only the last few months I've learnt how to live with it and what makes me feel better and what makes me feel wores. Sex most definitely makes me ferl better
I personally don`t think you are in the right place mentally to be on a site like this. Your looking for escapism nad you think sex with strangers is going to help heal you and help with your depression. In my opinion your playing a dangerous game with your fragile state of mind and I would suggest you take time out from places like this, get to know yourself again,find yourself and your own happiness and contentment. Then when you are strong enough and out of that dark place maybe then you will be strong enough to make the correct decisions in what it is in life that truly adds to your own personal happiness and not just using places like this as a fix or a plaster to cover over your pain. This in my opinion would only make your depression and feeling of self loathing worse.
Take time out, find yourself again and the inner peace you deserve.
This is just my opinion for what its worth.
I'm actually not in a dark place and I know myself better than I ever have. I don't have a single ounce of self loathing.
I like myself very much.
I'm not bipolar as someone suggested because I don't get the highs. I'm eiyhe content or low or depressed.
I'm actually at a good point in my life.
Im happy that you feel your at a good place in your life.
But how strong are you feeling? Do you think it wouldn`t take too much to knock you off kilter?
Because you have to be a very strong person to cope in this type of environment and lifestyle. In my opinion Its not the right place for people who have a fragile state of mind etc.
This is only my opinion of course
That's an amazing talent to be able to fully assess someone's state of mind, know what they do and don't need and what's best for them from a few words on a forum.
You can only speak for yourself on how you find this site and this lifestyle. You can't possibly know how others find it or how they feel about it.
I'm sure you were trying to help but I find your posts to be presumptuous at best. You're not in a position to tell a stranger what they need or diagnose that they have a fragile state of mind.
This idea that people with mental health issues are all weak and need other "normal" people to tell them what's best for them, is one of the incorrect, archaic _iews of mental health issues that exists along with the outdated stigma.
I`m talking from a lifes time of experience my love !!
Thats why I have posted... Just my opinion!
Everyone deals with depression in their own way, but sometimes you cant see the woods for the trees at the time and other sufferers can only give their take on what they did to help them cope with their depression and what situations and the type of people to avoid as to not add to put them in situations that may have a negative impact.
Again this is only my opinion from my own experience.
Your *own* experience. Not everyone is the same as you!
Stop being patronising.
Nothing patronising in my posts, Like I said its only my personal opinion and from my own personal experience.Everyone has their own personal experiences of depression and what worked for them or friends and family sufferers.And we are all entitled to our own personal opinions and _iews."While you can have a personal opinion on the OP state of mind it really counts for nothing...the only opinion that matter is her own GP or mental health team who really can give insight to her state of mind and of course the OP. I find it slightly odd you think you know best when really you don't. | |||
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"Lol seems we have half the fab mental health team in here and assumes they know the full diagnosis from a few posts on an open forum....This place is comical at times... " My conclusion IS that 99% of FAB members have metal health issues!!! PMSL | |||
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"Some people just think they are experts because they have had it in the past. If anyone ever talks to me about there depression I just listen and say what worked for me and what didn't. I advise on how to get help but I don't ever presume to know what they are going through because everyone is different. " Amen. The "I had a bad day once but I just got on with it, so pull yourself together" crew are just as bad. There are reasons psychiatrists have to study for so many years and one of those reasons is that everyone is different and needs different things. There isn't a one-size-fits-all solution. | |||
"Lol seems we have half the fab mental health team in here and assumes they know the full diagnosis from a few posts on an open forum....This place is comical at times... My conclusion IS that 99% of FAB members have metal health issues!!! PMSL" Oh deary me...if you assume that then you need help yourself but that's just my personal opinion of course in which you have based most of your findings on....your own personal opinion | |||
"Lol seems we have half the fab mental health team in here and assumes they know the full diagnosis from a few posts on an open forum....This place is comical at times... My conclusion IS that 99% of FAB members have metal health issues!!! PMSL" I'd be inclined to agree with you if you just lowered that number a little bit. People driving one mad does not maketh one a mentalist! | |||
"Lol seems we have half the fab mental health team in here and assumes they know the full diagnosis from a few posts on an open forum....This place is comical at times... My conclusion IS that 99% of FAB members have metal health issues!!! PMSL Oh deary me...if you assume that then you need help yourself but that's just my personal opinion of course in which you have based most of your findings on....your own personal opinion " Good old Chops lol | |||
"Lol seems we have half the fab mental health team in here and assumes they know the full diagnosis from a few posts on an open forum....This place is comical at times... My conclusion IS that 99% of FAB members have metal health issues!!! PMSL" You really should get yourself to the nearest hospital. You'd save them a fortune in consultations and expensive equipment for testing and diagnosis. Internet medical qualifications, not worth the paper they're written on. | |||
"Lol seems we have half the fab mental health team in here and assumes they know the full diagnosis from a few posts on an open forum....This place is comical at times... My conclusion IS that 99% of FAB members have metal health issues!!! PMSL I'd be inclined to agree with you if you just lowered that number a little bit. People driving one mad does not maketh one a mentalist! " | |||
"Lol seems we have half the fab mental health team in here and assumes they know the full diagnosis from a few posts on an open forum....This place is comical at times... My conclusion IS that 99% of FAB members have metal health issues!!! PMSL Oh deary me...if you assume that then you need help yourself but that's just my personal opinion of course in which you have based most of your findings on....your own personal opinion Good old Chops lol " | |||
"Lol seems we have half the fab mental health team in here and assumes they know the full diagnosis from a few posts on an open forum....This place is comical at times... My conclusion IS that 99% of FAB members have metal health issues!!! PMSL You really should get yourself to the nearest hospital. You'd save them a fortune in consultations and expensive equipment for testing and diagnosis. Internet medical qualifications, not worth the paper they're written on. " ohhh Virago Virago !! The sound of reason in FAB !! The person who cant bear not to be involved in a thread!! And anythread will do! just so you can air your superior make believe authority as a long standing FAB swinger! All Hail VIRAGO !! We SALUTE YOU ! PMSL | |||
"Lol seems we have half the fab mental health team in here and assumes they know the full diagnosis from a few posts on an open forum....This place is comical at times... My conclusion IS that 99% of FAB members have metal health issues!!! PMSL You really should get yourself to the nearest hospital. You'd save them a fortune in consultations and expensive equipment for testing and diagnosis. Internet medical qualifications, not worth the paper they're written on. ohhh Virago Virago !! The sound of reason in FAB !! The person who cant bear not to be involved in a thread!! And anythread will do! just so you can air your superior make believe authority as a long standing FAB swinger! All Hail VIRAGO !! We SALUTE YOU ! PMSL "Yes, that's absolutely right. I've posted on every single thread. I love the irony of accusing me of acting superior though when it's you waxing lyrical on the mental state of someone you don't know, telling them what's good for them and what's not and prescribing a course of action!  | |||
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"Lol seems we have half the fab mental health team in here and assumes they know the full diagnosis from a few posts on an open forum....This place is comical at times... My conclusion IS that 99% of FAB members have metal health issues!!! PMSL" Probably right there. | |||
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"Lol seems we have half the fab mental health team in here and assumes they know the full diagnosis from a few posts on an open forum....This place is comical at times... My conclusion IS that 99% of FAB members have metal health issues!!! PMSL You really should get yourself to the nearest hospital. You'd save them a fortune in consultations and expensive equipment for testing and diagnosis. Internet medical qualifications, not worth the paper they're written on. ohhh Virago Virago !! The sound of reason in FAB !! The person who cant bear not to be involved in a thread!! And anythread will do! just so you can air your superior make believe authority as a long standing FAB swinger! All Hail VIRAGO !! We SALUTE YOU ! PMSL
Yes, that's absolutely right. I've posted on every single thread.
I love the irony of accusing me of acting superior though when it's you waxing lyrical on the mental state of someone you don't know, telling them what's good for them and what's not and prescribing a course of action! "As we all know in here you choose to use the forums to try and create arguments with those who you perceive as getting more Limelight than yourself. You have had many run ins with people in here before and been put in your place on numerous accassions! You still feel the need to carry on with your self absorbed attitude and this is why people like you spoil the forums for others with your bullishness and false sence of grandeur. which has been said before about you many times. This is why your not liked by many people! But I doubt you will listen to me or others and carry on in that little deluded world of yours ! | |||
"Lol seems we have half the fab mental health team in here and assumes they know the full diagnosis from a few posts on an open forum....This place is comical at times... My conclusion IS that 99% of FAB members have metal health issues!!! PMSL You really should get yourself to the nearest hospital. You'd save them a fortune in consultations and expensive equipment for testing and diagnosis. Internet medical qualifications, not worth the paper they're written on. ohhh Virago Virago !! The sound of reason in FAB !! The person who cant bear not to be involved in a thread!! And anythread will do! just so you can air your superior make believe authority as a long standing FAB swinger! All Hail VIRAGO !! We SALUTE YOU ! PMSL
Yes, that's absolutely right. I've posted on every single thread.
I love the irony of accusing me of acting superior though when it's you waxing lyrical on the mental state of someone you don't know, telling them what's good for them and what's not and prescribing a course of action!
As we all know in here you choose to use the forums to try and create arguments with those who you perceive as getting more Limelight than yourself. You have had many run ins with people in here before and been put in your place on numerous accassions! You still feel the need to carry on with your self absorbed attitude and this is why people like you spoil the forums for others with your bullishness and false sence of grandeur.
which has been said before about you many times.
This is why your not liked by many people!
But I doubt you will listen to me or others and carry on in that little deluded world of yours !
"Yes, it's evident your mental health is just fine
If you know so much about me, you'll know I am entirely true to my own thoughts and beliefs and couldn't give a shit what a nameless, faceless troll hiding behind a silhouette as he judges and lectures thinks.
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"sometimes when we go through a phase of plenty of sex, meets, socials and then it dries up for a time i get low - almost like an addiction and not getting a fix - ive had a couple of breakdowns never had to be hospitalised though and well done for getting this far and getting it under control - its good that you can recognise what lowers your mood or see when you are slipping down - with me i start to clean - i can go into a kitchen drawer to find something and 3 hours later everything has been pulled out wiped down and re arranged - it was my kids that pointed this out to me and now if i start to get over zealous i take myself off for a walk - which i try and do anyway as it really switches off the mind " | |||
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"Up to a few years ago when I was really down I used to have endless sex with random strangers. I just wanted the sex I didn't care who with, even put myself in dangerous situations. Now sex outside my relationship is what it should be just fun. Sometimes I may meet once a month sometimes twice a week but I certainly don't crave the sex, if I'm having it great, if I'm not I don't think about it" I was exactly the same having sex with anyone escapism at the time but not the answer | |||
"It still is pretty taboo and we are judged greatly. I've past caring what others think now and I'm no longer ashamed of my illness. I'm happy to talk freely of my struggles as they make me who I am. I'm a good person and I won't let anyone make me believe different again. I'm lucky as I am in a place now where I can deal with my struggles better and I except the fact that I will have to take my medication for the rest of my life. "
I'm glad your through and out the other side. No one can know you like yourself, learning coping stratigies when when life looks bleak.
Hey, and if swinging floats your boat, why not.
To answer the question does not having sex get you down, it does when the kids are home from UNI! | |||
"i (Billy) have suffered for years and my wife has been my rock but the last 2 yrs my sex drive has gone all together, do keep swinging in my mind it is all working its the body that fails " That must be really hard, I (Harry) empathise with you. | |||
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"Lol seems we have half the fab mental health team in here and assumes they know the full diagnosis from a few posts on an open forum....This place is comical at times... My conclusion IS that 99% of FAB members have metal health issues!!! PMSL" and that comment simply serves to undermine all you have said previously on this thread and reduce your expertise to zilch.. in my opinion | |||
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" Getting agitated or down because of lack of sex is not the same as using sex to elevate one's mood "Agitated- that doesnt come close to describing what I had! My husband died 6 months ago and I went on a solo trip 6 weeks later, my hormones or brain were playing me up and I was almost in pain with wanting to have sex it occupied my every thought for a few weeks, I know it was just my cavewoman brain telling me to find a mate but very distracting nonetheless. I am content with my life on my own, not looking for a relationship but an understanding FB to scratch the itch would be ideal | |||
"Up to a few years ago when I was really down I used to have endless sex with random strangers. I just wanted the sex I didn't care who with, even put myself in dangerous situations. Now sex outside my relationship is what it should be just fun. Sometimes I may meet once a month sometimes twice a week but I certainly don't crave the sex, if I'm having it great, if I'm not I don't think about it I was exactly the same having sex with anyone escapism at the time but not the answer " | |||
"antidepressants definitely affect libido" Some do. There are many different anti-depressant drugs. Prozac and it's derivatives are well know for causing sexual dysfunction of various types. There are alternatives that tend to have fewer side effects. A lot of doctors, for various reasons, tend to start prescribing the ones most likely to cause sexual problems. If they cause problems, or other unwanted side effects, it's entirely reasonable to go back to the doctor and ask for a different anti-depressant. Some work better than others for different people too. It can take years, and several different meds and doses, to find the right treatment. | |||
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) with or without anxiety is wretched. It often requires you to treat it from a biopsychosocial aspect. Biology: affects sleep, eating habits and activity. With or without anti-depressants one needs to keep up nutrition at a time when they have no interest in food, get enough sleep, and activate those feel good endorphins from some form of activity - sex can work as long as it doesn't create further psychological problems. Perhaps walking is safer.
Talking therapies will help with the psychological effects or the trigger. Depression is normally associated with loss. Perhaps even just a good friend to listen to you will help.
Finally don't allow yourself to isolate yourself. If you have a good support network well allow them to be there for you. Or take up some social activity. | |||
"antidepressants definitely affect libido Some do. There are many different anti-depressant drugs. Prozac and it's derivatives are well know for causing sexual dysfunction of various types. There are alternatives that tend to have fewer side effects. A lot of doctors, for various reasons, tend to start prescribing the ones most likely to cause sexual problems. If they cause problems, or other unwanted side effects, it's entirely reasonable to go back to the doctor and ask for a different anti-depressant. Some work better than others for different people too. It can take years, and several different meds and doses, to find the right treatment." prozac did nothing for me - gave me tinnitus which i still have - i then went onto sertraline that within 2 weeks made a massive difference to me - i guess each person chemistry is different | |||
" Getting agitated or down because of lack of sex is not the same as using sex to elevate one's mood
Agitated- that doesnt come close to describing what I had!
My husband died 6 months ago and I went on a solo trip 6 weeks later, my hormones or brain were playing me up and I was almost in pain with wanting to have sex it occupied my every thought for a few weeks, I know it was just my cavewoman brain telling me to find a mate but very distracting nonetheless. I am content with my life on my own, not looking for a relationship but an understanding FB to scratch the itch would be ideal"I'm sorry to hear about your husband. I can only imagine how devastating that was. Good to hear you ate on the up though. | |||
"I know there is biggles. I've suffered pretty much my hole life and it is only the last few months I've learnt how to live with it and what makes me feel better and what makes me feel wores. Sex most definitely makes me ferl better "When we have sex or take part in any form of physical exercise it releases endorphins which are a natural stimulus. I would be curious to know as to what it is that makes you feel 'low' when not having sex? | |||
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"I know there is biggles. I've suffered pretty much my hole life and it is only the last few months I've learnt how to live with it and what makes me feel better and what makes me feel wores. Sex most definitely makes me ferl better
When we have sex or take part in any form of physical exercise it releases endorphins which are a natural stimulus. I would be curious to know as to what it is that makes you feel 'low' when not having sex? "When I figure that out I shall let you knw | |||
"I know there is biggles. I've suffered pretty much my hole life and it is only the last few months I've learnt how to live with it and what makes me feel better and what makes me feel wores. Sex most definitely makes me ferl better
When we have sex or take part in any form of physical exercise it releases endorphins which are a natural stimulus. I would be curious to know as to what it is that makes you feel 'low' when not having sex?
When I figure that out I shall let you knw "Let me rephrase the question. What makes you feel good about having sex? | |||
"I know there is biggles. I've suffered pretty much my hole life and it is only the last few months I've learnt how to live with it and what makes me feel better and what makes me feel wores. Sex most definitely makes me ferl better
When we have sex or take part in any form of physical exercise it releases endorphins which are a natural stimulus. I would be curious to know as to what it is that makes you feel 'low' when not having sex?
When I figure that out I shall let you knw
Let me rephrase the question. What makes you feel good about having sex?"I guess it's kind of like a drug high when I have a really good orgasm. I feel a great sense of euphoria and feel calm and relaxed. Depending on longevity I feel a good exhausted and manage to sleep well. Nothing in life gives me that like sex does. | |||
"antidepressants definitely affect libido Some do. There are many different anti-depressant drugs. Prozac and it's derivatives are well know for causing sexual dysfunction of various types. There are alternatives that tend to have fewer side effects. A lot of doctors, for various reasons, tend to start prescribing the ones most likely to cause sexual problems. If they cause problems, or other unwanted side effects, it's entirely reasonable to go back to the doctor and ask for a different anti-depressant. Some work better than others for different people too. It can take years, and several different meds and doses, to find the right treatment. prozac did nothing for me - gave me tinnitus which i still have - i then went onto sertraline that within 2 weeks made a massive difference to me - i guess each person chemistry is different" I don't know many people who've taken Prozac or one of its derivatives and had a good experience. Sadly, it's often prescribed for reasons other than being the best choice therapeutically, and it's usually only changed if the patient complains or returns after some time and says it's not working. | |||
"I know there is biggles. I've suffered pretty much my hole life and it is only the last few months I've learnt how to live with it and what makes me feel better and what makes me feel wores. Sex most definitely makes me ferl better
When we have sex or take part in any form of physical exercise it releases endorphins which are a natural stimulus. I would be curious to know as to what it is that makes you feel 'low' when not having sex?
When I figure that out I shall let you knw
Let me rephrase the question. What makes you feel good about having sex?
I guess it's kind of like a drug high when I have a really good orgasm. I feel a great sense of euphoria and feel calm and relaxed. Depending on longevity I feel a good exhausted and manage to sleep well. Nothing in life gives me that like sex does. "Ok so that sounds very much like a chemical reaction in the brain. How do you feel physically and emotionally on a day to day basis? (If you prefer to PM me you can) | |||
"I know there is biggles. I've suffered pretty much my hole life and it is only the last few months I've learnt how to live with it and what makes me feel better and what makes me feel wores. Sex most definitely makes me ferl better
When we have sex or take part in any form of physical exercise it releases endorphins which are a natural stimulus. I would be curious to know as to what it is that makes you feel 'low' when not having sex?
When I figure that out I shall let you knw
Let me rephrase the question. What makes you feel good about having sex?
I guess it's kind of like a drug high when I have a really good orgasm. I feel a great sense of euphoria and feel calm and relaxed. Depending on longevity I feel a good exhausted and manage to sleep well. Nothing in life gives me that like sex does.
Ok so that sounds very much like a chemical reaction in the brain. How do you feel physically and emotionally on a day to day basis? (If you prefer to PM me you can) "I'm happy talking about it openly as I feel no shame in it anymore. Yes my Dr said it is highly likely I have chemical depression. When I take my meds I am fine and function perfectly well. Qhen I don't I get extremely depressed and my mind is loud with unmanageable thoughts all at once and I can't think rationally. I am lucky I found an amazing psychotherapist and had very hard intensive sessions. She helped me to think outside the box told me what I needed to hear but in a caring manor. I learnt so much about myself and learnt to understand my emotions as I blocked them out of my life since I was a child. | |||
"I know there is biggles. I've suffered pretty much my hole life and it is only the last few months I've learnt how to live with it and what makes me feel better and what makes me feel wores. Sex most definitely makes me ferl better
When we have sex or take part in any form of physical exercise it releases endorphins which are a natural stimulus. I would be curious to know as to what it is that makes you feel 'low' when not having sex?
When I figure that out I shall let you knw
Let me rephrase the question. What makes you feel good about having sex?
I guess it's kind of like a drug high when I have a really good orgasm. I feel a great sense of euphoria and feel calm and relaxed. Depending on longevity I feel a good exhausted and manage to sleep well. Nothing in life gives me that like sex does.
Ok so that sounds very much like a chemical reaction in the brain. How do you feel physically and emotionally on a day to day basis? (If you prefer to PM me you can)
I'm happy talking about it openly as I feel no shame in it anymore.
Yes my Dr said it is highly likely I have chemical depression. When I take my meds I am fine and function perfectly well. Qhen I don't I get extremely depressed and my mind is loud with unmanageable thoughts all at once and I can't think rationally.
I am lucky I found an amazing psychotherapist and had very hard intensive sessions. She helped me to think outside the box told me what I needed to hear but in a caring manor. I learnt so much about myself and learnt to understand my emotions as I blocked them out of my life since I was a child. "Sounds like you have things relatively under control, if you can't get that high from sex is there an alternative form of exercise you enjoy that would give you that same 'buzz' Also great that you don't mind talking openly about your depression. It's amazing the stigma that still surrounds mental health issues, and psychotherapy is undoubtedly the best form of counselling | |||
"I know there is biggles. I've suffered pretty much my hole life and it is only the last few months I've learnt how to live with it and what makes me feel better and what makes me feel wores. Sex most definitely makes me ferl better
When we have sex or take part in any form of physical exercise it releases endorphins which are a natural stimulus. I would be curious to know as to what it is that makes you feel 'low' when not having sex?
When I figure that out I shall let you knw
Let me rephrase the question. What makes you feel good about having sex?
I guess it's kind of like a drug high when I have a really good orgasm. I feel a great sense of euphoria and feel calm and relaxed. Depending on longevity I feel a good exhausted and manage to sleep well. Nothing in life gives me that like sex does.
Ok so that sounds very much like a chemical reaction in the brain. How do you feel physically and emotionally on a day to day basis? (If you prefer to PM me you can)
I'm happy talking about it openly as I feel no shame in it anymore.
Yes my Dr said it is highly likely I have chemical depression. When I take my meds I am fine and function perfectly well. Qhen I don't I get extremely depressed and my mind is loud with unmanageable thoughts all at once and I can't think rationally.
I am lucky I found an amazing psychotherapist and had very hard intensive sessions. She helped me to think outside the box told me what I needed to hear but in a caring manor. I learnt so much about myself and learnt to understand my emotions as I blocked them out of my life since I was a child.
Sounds like you have things relatively under control, if you can't get that high from sex is there an alternative form of exercise you enjoy that would give you that same 'buzz'
Also great that you don't mind talking openly about your depression. It's amazing the stigma that still surrounds mental health issues, and psychotherapy is undoubtedly the best form of counselling "I used to dance a lot before I had my kids which I loved but never found anything that gives me the same rush. It will always have stigma I think. Annoys me though when people go through a rough patch in life and use depression as a reason to not work when they are perfectly capable. Then they continue to use it for as long as they possibly can. | |||
"I know there is biggles. I've suffered pretty much my hole life and it is only the last few months I've learnt how to live with it and what makes me feel better and what makes me feel wores. Sex most definitely makes me ferl better
When we have sex or take part in any form of physical exercise it releases endorphins which are a natural stimulus. I would be curious to know as to what it is that makes you feel 'low' when not having sex?
When I figure that out I shall let you knw
Let me rephrase the question. What makes you feel good about having sex?
I guess it's kind of like a drug high when I have a really good orgasm. I feel a great sense of euphoria and feel calm and relaxed. Depending on longevity I feel a good exhausted and manage to sleep well. Nothing in life gives me that like sex does.
Ok so that sounds very much like a chemical reaction in the brain. How do you feel physically and emotionally on a day to day basis? (If you prefer to PM me you can)
I'm happy talking about it openly as I feel no shame in it anymore.
Yes my Dr said it is highly likely I have chemical depression. When I take my meds I am fine and function perfectly well. Qhen I don't I get extremely depressed and my mind is loud with unmanageable thoughts all at once and I can't think rationally.
I am lucky I found an amazing psychotherapist and had very hard intensive sessions. She helped me to think outside the box told me what I needed to hear but in a caring manor. I learnt so much about myself and learnt to understand my emotions as I blocked them out of my life since I was a child.
Sounds like you have things relatively under control, if you can't get that high from sex is there an alternative form of exercise you enjoy that would give you that same 'buzz'
Also great that you don't mind talking openly about your depression. It's amazing the stigma that still surrounds mental health issues, and psychotherapy is undoubtedly the best form of counselling
I used to dance a lot before I had my kids which I loved but never found anything that gives me the same rush.
It will always have stigma I think. Annoys me though when people go through a rough patch in life and use depression as a reason to not work when they are perfectly capable. Then they continue to use it for as long as they possibly can.
"Yes unless you have truly experienced depression it is difficult to understand what people are going through. Unlike most illnesses depression is unique to that person. GP's are far to happy to throw drugs at sufferers (although for many antidepressants are the best form of treatment) when what they really need are talking therapies! And generally more than the standard 6 weeks offered by the NHS! | |||
"antidepressants definitely affect libido Some do. There are many different anti-depressant drugs. Prozac and it's derivatives are well know for causing sexual dysfunction of various types. There are alternatives that tend to have fewer side effects. A lot of doctors, for various reasons, tend to start prescribing the ones most likely to cause sexual problems. If they cause problems, or other unwanted side effects, it's entirely reasonable to go back to the doctor and ask for a different anti-depressant. Some work better than others for different people too. It can take years, and several different meds and doses, to find the right treatment. prozac did nothing for me - gave me tinnitus which i still have - i then went onto sertraline that within 2 weeks made a massive difference to me - i guess each person chemistry is different I don't know many people who've taken Prozac or one of its derivatives and had a good experience. Sadly, it's often prescribed for reasons other than being the best choice therapeutically, and it's usually only changed if the patient complains or returns after some time and says it's not working." I totally agree with this,I think doctors always prescribe that first because they have a deal with the manufacturers,it must be their first choice for a reason,when I was on Prozac I felt fearless,whereas I'm naturally quite timid,I was finding myself going out my way to cause arguments and fights,personally I would advise people with depression not to take Prozac,as the negatives far outweigh the positives | |||
"antidepressants definitely affect libido Some do. There are many different anti-depressant drugs. Prozac and it's derivatives are well know for causing sexual dysfunction of various types. There are alternatives that tend to have fewer side effects. A lot of doctors, for various reasons, tend to start prescribing the ones most likely to cause sexual problems. If they cause problems, or other unwanted side effects, it's entirely reasonable to go back to the doctor and ask for a different anti-depressant. Some work better than others for different people too. It can take years, and several different meds and doses, to find the right treatment. prozac did nothing for me - gave me tinnitus which i still have - i then went onto sertraline that within 2 weeks made a massive difference to me - i guess each person chemistry is different I don't know many people who've taken Prozac or one of its derivatives and had a good experience. Sadly, it's often prescribed for reasons other than being the best choice therapeutically, and it's usually only changed if the patient complains or returns after some time and says it's not working. I totally agree with this,I think doctors always prescribe that first because they have a deal with the manufacturers,it must be their first choice for a reason,when I was on Prozac I felt fearless,whereas I'm naturally quite timid,I was finding myself going out my way to cause arguments and fights,personally I would advise people with depression not to take Prozac,as the negatives far outweigh the positives" I personally have never taken prozac and I'm glad it was never prescribed to me | |||
"Depression (at a glance, for anybody who wants to read ) with or without anxiety is wretched. It often requires you to treat it from a biopsychosocial aspect. Biology: affects sleep, eating habits and activity. With or without anti-depressants one needs to keep up nutrition at a time when they have no interest in food, get enough sleep, and activate those feel good endorphins from some form of activity - sex can work as long as it doesn't create further psychological problems. Perhaps walking is safer.
Talking therapies will help with the psychological effects or the trigger. Depression is normally associated with loss. Perhaps even just a good friend to listen to you will help.
Finally don't allow yourself to isolate yourself. If you have a good support network well allow them to be there for you. Or take up some social activity. "Well said | |||
"I've suffered for years but finally have it under control after a major breakdown and hospitalisation the beginning of 2013. However I get really low when I don't get enough sex. Does anyone else have this even if not a sufferer? " I feel your pain to be honest. Worst part for me though is it put me down to 9st 10 and I need sex like.. three times a day easily. thought about bad thoughts a few times. | |||
" I personally have never taken prozac and I'm glad it was never prescribed to me" if you value your sexual appetite then stay well clear of them,I found with prozac I couldn't concentrate on anything at all,you'd be thinking of something then a couple seconds later you'd be thinking of something completely different,sex was a nightmare on it too because it causes prolonged orgasms,you'd get bored by the time you got close to orgasm,very weird drug prozac | |||
"Sex doesn't play any part in my illness. If I'm having a low period sex is the last thing I want "
Can't say getting any or a lack of has any bearing on it for me personally. | |||
" I personally have never taken prozac and I'm glad it was never prescribed to me if you value your sexual appetite then stay well clear of them,I found with prozac I couldn't concentrate on anything at all,you'd be thinking of something then a couple seconds later you'd be thinking of something completely different,sex was a nightmare on it too because it causes prolonged orgasms,you'd get bored by the time you got close to orgasm,very weird drug prozac" I'm on Tramadol right now for a hip injury, strangely they help with depression but holy SHIT can I hold a massive erection! GOOD side effect! | |||
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"antidepressants definitely affect libido Some do. There are many different anti-depressant drugs. Prozac and it's derivatives are well know for causing sexual dysfunction of various types. There are alternatives that tend to have fewer side effects. A lot of doctors, for various reasons, tend to start prescribing the ones most likely to cause sexual problems. If they cause problems, or other unwanted side effects, it's entirely reasonable to go back to the doctor and ask for a different anti-depressant. Some work better than others for different people too. It can take years, and several different meds and doses, to find the right treatment. prozac did nothing for me - gave me tinnitus which i still have - i then went onto sertraline that within 2 weeks made a massive difference to me - i guess each person chemistry is different I don't know many people who've taken Prozac or one of its derivatives and had a good experience. Sadly, it's often prescribed for reasons other than being the best choice therapeutically, and it's usually only changed if the patient complains or returns after some time and says it's not working. I totally agree with this,I think doctors always prescribe that first because they have a deal with the manufacturers,it must be their first choice for a reason,when I was on Prozac I felt fearless,whereas I'm naturally quite timid,I was finding myself going out my way to cause arguments and fights,personally I would advise people with depression not to take Prozac,as the negatives far outweigh the positives" It probably works for some people. I'm just not sure which people! There are several reasons it's the main initial default drug for depression. They're all financial reasons, such as the one you've mentioned. The side effects of Prozac vary from person to person but there seems to be a better (more effective and/or less problematic) option in most cases, as far as I can tell. | |||
"antidepressants definitely affect libido Some do. There are many different anti-depressant drugs. Prozac and it's derivatives are well know for causing sexual dysfunction of various types. There are alternatives that tend to have fewer side effects. A lot of doctors, for various reasons, tend to start prescribing the ones most likely to cause sexual problems. If they cause problems, or other unwanted side effects, it's entirely reasonable to go back to the doctor and ask for a different anti-depressant. Some work better than others for different people too. It can take years, and several different meds and doses, to find the right treatment. prozac did nothing for me - gave me tinnitus which i still have - i then went onto sertraline that within 2 weeks made a massive difference to me - i guess each person chemistry is different I don't know many people who've taken Prozac or one of its derivatives and had a good experience. Sadly, it's often prescribed for reasons other than being the best choice therapeutically, and it's usually only changed if the patient complains or returns after some time and says it's not working. I totally agree with this,I think doctors always prescribe that first because they have a deal with the manufacturers,it must be their first choice for a reason,when I was on Prozac I felt fearless,whereas I'm naturally quite timid,I was finding myself going out my way to cause arguments and fights,personally I would advise people with depression not to take Prozac,as the negatives far outweigh the positives It probably works for some people. I'm just not sure which people! There are several reasons it's the main initial default drug for depression. They're all financial reasons, such as the one you've mentioned. The side effects of Prozac vary from person to person but there seems to be a better (more effective and/or less problematic) option in most cases, as far as I can tell. " NICE guidelines should inform you of what and why certain antidepressants are prescribed (evidence based). Fluoxetine (Prozac) was drug of choice years ago, I believe. Paroxetine more recently and citalopram nowadays. If I'm uptodate. The point is SSRIs are initially prescribed due to efficacy and taking into account side-effects. Patients have more input now. | |||
"antidepressants definitely affect libido Some do. There are many different anti-depressant drugs. Prozac and it's derivatives are well know for causing sexual dysfunction of various types. There are alternatives that tend to have fewer side effects. A lot of doctors, for various reasons, tend to start prescribing the ones most likely to cause sexual problems. If they cause problems, or other unwanted side effects, it's entirely reasonable to go back to the doctor and ask for a different anti-depressant. Some work better than others for different people too. It can take years, and several different meds and doses, to find the right treatment. prozac did nothing for me - gave me tinnitus which i still have - i then went onto sertraline that within 2 weeks made a massive difference to me - i guess each person chemistry is different I don't know many people who've taken Prozac or one of its derivatives and had a good experience. Sadly, it's often prescribed for reasons other than being the best choice therapeutically, and it's usually only changed if the patient complains or returns after some time and says it's not working. I totally agree with this,I think doctors always prescribe that first because they have a deal with the manufacturers,it must be their first choice for a reason,when I was on Prozac I felt fearless,whereas I'm naturally quite timid,I was finding myself going out my way to cause arguments and fights,personally I would advise people with depression not to take Prozac,as the negatives far outweigh the positives It probably works for some people. I'm just not sure which people! There are several reasons it's the main initial default drug for depression. They're all financial reasons, such as the one you've mentioned. The side effects of Prozac vary from person to person but there seems to be a better (more effective and/or less problematic) option in most cases, as far as I can tell. NICE guidelines should inform you of what and why certain antidepressants are prescribed (evidence based). Fluoxetine (Prozac) was drug of choice years ago, I believe. Paroxetine more recently and citalopram nowadays. If I'm uptodate. The point is SSRIs are initially prescribed due to efficacy and taking into account side-effects. Patients have more input now." I've seen the guidelines. I don't believe that is the reason that Prozac and its derivatives were/are chosen as the first drug to try so frequently, most of the time. I know why GPs would like us to think it is but personally I am utterly unconvinced. I used to volunteer for a mental health charity. I've spoken to a lot of people on anti-depressants (and other medication for mental health difficulties). Many, (I can't in good faith say most because I didn't count, but it did seem like most), had far more problems than benefits from Prozac et al. One of my friends is a consultant psychiatrist and he detests Prozac and its derivatives. | |||
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" I personally have never taken prozac and I'm glad it was never prescribed to me if you value your sexual appetite then stay well clear of them,I found with prozac I couldn't concentrate on anything at all,you'd be thinking of something then a couple seconds later you'd be thinking of something completely different,sex was a nightmare on it too because it causes prolonged orgasms,you'd get bored by the time you got close to orgasm,very weird drug prozac I'm on Tramadol right now for a hip injury, strangely they help with depression but holy SHIT can I hold a massive erection! GOOD side effect!" Tramadol is a relaxent and lowers blood pressure so strange thst it has that affect on you | |||
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"When I was studying mental health, it was a real issue that has no easy answer. A lot of mental health isn't caused by physical symptoms, so to use medication to alter or remove physical things is not always the best form of recovery. But if someone goes to a GP they're not likely to get anything but medication compared to their available options. Often just good friends, proactive social networks and a positive outlook are the key to recovery. " A positive outlook is practically impossible when you are in a black spot of depression and the worst thing you can say to a person in a down episode as makes you worse as you can't see positives | |||
"Anyone tried Depakote 750 MG dose twice a day? If so what waas your experience of it?" Not heard of this one | |||
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Take care people and don't be too harsh on yourselves - ever xx | |||
"Anyone tried Depakote 750 MG dose twice a day? If so what waas your experience of it? Not heard of this one " Side effects are weight gain and loss of hair unfortunately but seems to be effective for alot of people with Bi Polar originally created for use as an anti seizure drug for epilepsy | |||
"Anyone tried Depakote 750 MG dose twice a day? If so what waas your experience of it? Not heard of this one Side effects are weight gain and loss of hair unfortunately but seems to be effective for alot of people with Bi Polar originally created for use as an anti seizure drug for epilepsy " I take epilim and lamotagine both anti seizure meds as my main mood stabilizers, much better than lithium which I was on for years | |||
"Anyone tried Depakote 750 MG dose twice a day? If so what waas your experience of it? Not heard of this one Side effects are weight gain and loss of hair unfortunately but seems to be effective for alot of people with Bi Polar originally created for use as an anti seizure drug for epilepsy I take epilim and lamotagine both anti seizure meds as my main mood stabilizers, much better than lithium which I was on for years" Lamotragine seems to be fairly good, but not many dics like to prescribe Lithium anymore as it takes its toll on your liver | |||
"Anyone tried Depakote 750 MG dose twice a day? If so what waas your experience of it? Not heard of this one Side effects are weight gain and loss of hair unfortunately but seems to be effective for alot of people with Bi Polar originally created for use as an anti seizure drug for epilepsy I take epilim and lamotagine both anti seizure meds as my main mood stabilizers, much better than lithium which I was on for years Lamotragine seems to be fairly good, but not many dics like to prescribe Lithium anymore as it takes its toll on your liver " Docs even ! | |||
"Anyone tried Depakote 750 MG dose twice a day? If so what waas your experience of it? Not heard of this one Side effects are weight gain and loss of hair unfortunately but seems to be effective for alot of people with Bi Polar originally created for use as an anti seizure drug for epilepsy I take epilim and lamotagine both anti seizure meds as my main mood stabilizers, much better than lithium which I was on for years Lamotragine seems to be fairly good, but not many dics like to prescribe Lithium anymore as it takes its toll on your liver " I was on it up to about 15 years ago, I was one of the first people they trialed here with sodium valporate, lithium is a bastard but I know someone that's just been put on lithium and I was most surprised but different drugs work for different people | |||
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" Interesting. If you look online, at significant research papers, you may find that Placebo's work in just as many cases as do drugs. " Well that helps Whittle away the ones that are emotionally depressed but does nothing for chemical depression like mine. I'm sure at one stage in my 20s I had a placebo as I hit a low then. Meds cjanged and I came back up again | |||
" Interesting. If you look online, at significant research papers, you may find that Placebo's work in just as many cases as do drugs. " Maybe they do in some circumstances, But certainly not when you have a serious chemical imbalance in your brain that needs medication. | |||
" Interesting. If you look online, at significant research papers, you may find that Placebo's work in just as many cases as do drugs. " That would seem to support that depression and its causes differ from person to person and that in some cases having someone listen and provide support and 'treatment' is what some need rather than the medication itself. Depression that requires medication is no more or less a problem than depression that responds to other treatments. The key is to treat people as individuals, assess their needs and find what works for them. Even for the people who do need meds, it needs to be the right meds from a very wide choice and a ridiculously vast number of possible combinations. And for those who need emotional support, therapy, counselling or anything else, it needs to be the right option at the right time. Everybody is different. Everybody's mental wellbeing is different. | |||
" Interesting. If you look online, at significant research papers, you may find that Placebo's work in just as many cases as do drugs. Well that helps Whittle away the ones that are emotionally depressed but does nothing for chemical depression like mine. I'm sure at one stage in my 20s I had a placebo as I hit a low then. Meds cjanged and I came back up again" Depression is depression. Whatever the trigger is, it results in a chemical imbalance in the brain. | |||
" Interesting. If you look online, at significant research papers, you may find that Placebo's work in just as many cases as do drugs. Well that helps Whittle away the ones that are emotionally depressed but does nothing for chemical depression like mine. I'm sure at one stage in my 20s I had a placebo as I hit a low then. Meds cjanged and I came back up again Depression is depression. Whatever the trigger is, it results in a chemical imbalance in the brain. " No it isn't. It is different for everyone. Depression takes on a variety of forms and is not that black and white | |||
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