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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Aren't ya just sick of this bloody referendum ?

Let the Scots go if that's what they want.

Just piss off.

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By *inaTitzTV/TS over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

I'm fed up, but that last part is uncharitable to say the least and also don't forget if they go, they will still be our neighbours.

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By *lligator3Man over a year ago

Dundee

The date for it has always been the same, don't blame the people for the coverage of it in your news source....the vote is on a knife edge as half want to be British as it stands but you tell them to piss off mate- nice!

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By *etitesaraTV/TS over a year ago

rochdale

To be fair, that sentiment does seem to be fairly widespread.

That tells me that, no matter the result we will have created a deep schism between Scotland* and the rest of the UK that may never fully heal.

*Plus the deep divide amongst the Scottish people themselves of course.

No winners in all of this unpleasantness.

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By *yrdwomanWoman over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"The date for it has always been the same, don't blame the people for the coverage of it in your news source....the vote is on a knife edge as half want to be British as it stands but you tell them to piss off mate- nice!"

To be fair, the Scots are always telling us English to piss off.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Oh no we're not

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Hello James,

"Aren't ya just sick of this bloody referendum ?"

Not half as sick as the Scots will be some years down the line when the euphoria wears off and the realism of their short sighted action becomes evident, that is if sanity doesn't prevail at the referendum.

Alec

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yep - utterly sick of it now.

It's getting heaps of coverage and what surprises me is that even with the BBC, broadcasts are regionalised.

Since the rest of us in the UK are not being given a say in the referendum, why do we need to see so much coverage on it.

Why not restrict the coverage to the regions that DO get a vote.

I certainly won't be watching the live referendum coverage nest week.

I posted some comments on a thread on facebook yesterday and actually ended one of them by accusing Alex Salmond of betraying our fallen war heroes. I felt it particularly apt given that this year we are commemorating the centenary of the outbreak of the first world war in which millions of young men died fighting for our freedom - and our right to vote.

Just my feelings on the matter really.

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By *ilandlarryCouple over a year ago

more north lincs than mids!

I am a Scot, without a vote, and I think it's important for the rest of the UK to see what is going on. If you don't want to see it on your tv then turn over.

It has a massive impact on all of the UK, regardless of whether everyone is allowed to vote. It's an important time in Scottish history. Not all Scots want independence, it's not fair on those people to tell everyone to piss off about it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I am a Scot, without a vote, and I think it's important for the rest of the UK to see what is going on. If you don't want to see it on your tv then turn over.

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Exactly turn the tele off and stop whinging , you dont have to follow it as it has nothing to do with the English.

Personally i hope they vote yes and sod off and we also offer the Welsh the very same referendum so they can all govern themselves

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By *ezebelWoman over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest

Why not restrict the coverage to the regions that DO get a vote.

So we shouldnt get any news from anywhere else in the world because we dont have a vote there? Bit of an odd thing to say.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I am a Scot, without a vote, and I think it's important for the rest of the UK to see what is going on. If you don't want to see it on your tv then turn over.

Exactly turn the tele off and stop whinging , you dont have to follow it as it has nothing to do with the English.

Personally i hope they vote yes and sod off and we also offer the Welsh the very same referendum so they can all govern themselves"

To be honest, I really don't watch that much TV anyway.

But it seems to be popping up everywhere.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I am a Scot, without a vote, and I think it's important for the rest of the UK to see what is going on. If you don't want to see it on your tv then turn over.

It will have a big impact on the rest of the UK if the vote is yes. So it's important to see what's going on, on the news. In some countries we would see only what the powers that be wanted us to see! At least we get to see both sides here.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

To be fair, the Scots are always telling us English to piss off."

If you think we hate you,you should go to Wales...

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By *owayjose8Man over a year ago

dundee

We in Scotland are fed up of listening to yous about the world cup been going on since 1966 can't wait till we get rid of England

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I am a Scot, without a vote, and I think it's important for the rest of the UK to see what is going on. If you don't want to see it on your tv then turn over.

it is already having a big impact, the number of people who are unable to contain themselves and show a nasty side to their characters for example.

Even a no vote will have a big impact, the as yet unseen list of additional powers for Holyrood will have knock effects for the rest of the UK not just in Scotland.

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By *entaur_UKMan over a year ago

Cannock

"We in Scotland are fed up of listening to yous about the world cup been going on since 1966 can't wait till we get rid of England "

Are you voting yes because England won the world cup then?

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By *iewMan over a year ago
Forum Mod

Angus & Findhorn

it's still a No from me...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"We in Scotland are fed up of listening to yous about the world cup been going on since 1966 can't wait till we get rid of England "

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"We in Scotland are fed up of listening to yous about the world cup been going on since 1966 can't wait till we get rid of England "

listen fannybaws, inane comments like this from either side are no help to anyone.

so g_nny rap it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"We in Scotland are fed up of listening to yous about the world cup been going on since 1966 can't wait till we get rid of England

dont encourage him

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I hate it when people assume we all want independence. I don't, and will be voting accordingly

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By *etitesaraTV/TS over a year ago

rochdale

Whether you have a vote or not, its massively important as it will affect the whole of the UK in some way or other.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"We in Scotland are fed up of listening to yous about the world cup been going on since 1966 can't wait till we get rid of England "
Hark at allys tartan army over there...lol

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By *oxy_minxWoman over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen

My vote has already been cast! And it's a NO from me as well....

And yes my status has attracted a few abusive messages, but I am not changing it and it will remain for the rest of the duration

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Whether you have a vote or not, its massively important as it will affect the whole of the UK in some way or other.

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If the oil fields had of been off Hull and not Aberdeen 90 percent of the yes voters with the pound signs in thier eyes would not want a referendum

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Whether you have a vote or not, its massively important as it will affect the whole of the UK in some way or other.

If the oil fields had of been off Hull and not Aberdeen 90 percent of the yes voters with the pound signs in thier eyes would not want a referendum "

You're probably right,but they aren't!

According to the McCrone report from the 70's,had Scotland been able to keep the oil revenue for itself she'd have been embarrassingly wealthy as a nation...

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By *owayjose8Man over a year ago

dundee

It's Scotland this time then our brothers in Wales will leave England high and dry and apart from the oil our whiskey makes up 25 per cent of all uk export so good bye England.

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By *othingButCocoChanelWoman over a year ago

Glasgow

This

its a YES from me to gladly "piss off"

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By *othingButCocoChanelWoman over a year ago

Glasgow

"Whether you have a vote or not, its massively important as it will affect the whole of the UK in some way or other.

If the oil fields had of been off Hull and not Aberdeen 90 percent of the yes voters with the pound signs in thier eyes would not want a referendum "

Whats the point of that "point"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

lol yet more anti Scottish crap.

ive no idea why English folk are in such a huff ,,piss off, good riddens bla bla bla,etc,,lol its very childish

You don't own us we can stay or leave if we want.

And good luck to the Former United Kingdom

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By *oversforfun2000Couple over a year ago

glasgow

The referendum is bringing out nasty characters in both camps and in both countries, not nice _iewing or reading!!

All I will say to all in reply to the op about the piss off comment I truly hope you vote Tory because if Scotland does gain independence then without the Scottish vote the Tories will be in office for the foreseeable future!! How long before regions in the north of England feel disenfranchised and feel the democratic deficit that some scots have felt for years!!

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By *amamanMan over a year ago

Inverness and around. ...

Everybody is an expert. ..

and if you get what you wish for you just may regret it .....it has split up families friends colleagues etc for what ?? No one knows the bloody answer ....till next week . Then it may be too late to think rationality ...yes ? No? ..........

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"lol yet more anti Scottish crap.

ive no idea why English folk are in such a huff ,,piss off, good riddens bla bla bla,etc,,lol its very childish

You don't own us we can stay or leave if we want.

And good luck to the Former United Kingdom

I don't think the vast majority are anti Scottish. There will always be those who jump on the bandwagon. Most people are more level headed about it.

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By *oversforfun2000Couple over a year ago

glasgow

"lol yet more anti Scottish crap.

ive no idea why English folk are in such a huff ,,piss off, good riddens bla bla bla,etc,,lol its very childish

You don't own us we can stay or leave if we want.

And good luck to the Former United Kingdom

I don't think the vast majority are anti Scottish. There will always be those who jump on the bandwagon. Most people are more level headed about it."

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By *entaur_UKMan over a year ago

Cannock

"The referendum is bringing out nasty characters in both camps and in both countries, not nice _iewing or reading!!

Disenfranchised? We had a Labour government for 13 years from 1997 onwards, or did you forget about that? You can't always get your own way, that is how democracy works, which ever government gets elected there will always be some who are not happy with the result.

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By *picyspiregirlCouple over a year ago

chesterfield

I believe that independence is the only option for Scotland now, I don't want that but, for the good of all parties, I believe it is the only option.

We all know that if the result is no the yes campaign will begin the day after until the next referendum, that being the case, why would the rUK want to invest in Scotland, be it jobs, building projects or whatever knowing full well that the investment will be lost sooner or later? Would it not be better to invest in a country that wants to be in and remain in the uk?

It would be difficult to attract new independent investment until the long term future of Scotland is established, a no vote would only be temporary.

Greater devolution would not be a great option, Westminster is still blamed for faults in devolved issues now, would that change if there were more things from which the Scottish parliament could abdicate responsibility? To me it feels like trying to appease someone knowing that it will be thrown back in your face.

For these and many other reasons I believe that Scotland should vote yes. It would be in the best interest of all although I believe that all will regret it.

Mr Spicy.

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By *hrissie1961Woman over a year ago

dumfries and galloway

You'll be sicker if it's a yes

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It's just like with anything else that requires the attention of the public and/or beaurocracy. If you dont want to agree on something, make it a waiting game and thin out the herd. Of course, matters like this do require thorough attention. All really depends on how much people want it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

In my line of work a yes vote would sadly see a lot of scottish south of the wall loosing there jobs.

Noth of the wall sadly would not fair too well ether.

There are a lot of deeper things that the yes voters are not aware of sadly.

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By *oversforfun2000Couple over a year ago

glasgow

"The referendum is bringing out nasty characters in both camps and in both countries, not nice _iewing or reading!!

Did I say I felt like that.....nope you will find I didn't, I said some scots!! Get our own way?? If a whole country votes 1 party yet the polar opposite party is in office then I believe ppl have the right to feel as if their vote didn't count!! I am all for taking the good with the bad that's democracy but as an undecided it is the vile directed at us that's makes me wonder why bother!!

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By *rightonsteveMan over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

If Scotland becomes independent, we would look silly having a Union Jack - the new flag might be called the Split Jill. And no more UK more like DK - Disunited Kingdom.

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By *ilandlarryCouple over a year ago

more north lincs than mids!

"In my line of work a yes vote would sadly see a lot of scottish south of the wall loosing there jobs.

Noth of the wall sadly would not fair too well ether.

There are a lot of deeper things that the yes voters are not aware of sadly.

Unfortunately there is no impartial documents out there. No one is spelling out the pros and cons for both sides. We are only hearing what they want us to hear, questions are being asked and vague answers are being given. Yes and No voters are only pointing people in the direction of information that supports their way of thinking.

I posted on FB, just today, that I was glad that I didn't have a vote because none of them have put forward a good enough case in my eyes. It's just a whole load of scaremongering with no real thought put in to it.

I've heard stories from both sides about how they are duping people into thinking that they have voted when they have had people at the door.

The BBC and other media have been accused of being biased. It's all a case of he said/she said if you ask me.

And as for people threatening others, and calling them spineless/traitors etc .... pathetic!

Also, the referendum isn't about Scotland and England. It's about Scotland gaining more power over their own country.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I am a Scot, without a vote, and I think it's important for the rest of the UK to see what is going on. If you don't want to see it on your tv then turn over.

Exactly turn the tele off and stop whinging , you dont have to follow it as it has nothing to do with the English.

Personally i hope they vote yes and sod off and we also offer the Welsh the very same referendum so they can all govern themselves"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Why not restrict the coverage to the regions that DO get a vote.

So we shouldnt get any news from anywhere else in the world because we dont have a vote there? Bit of an odd thing to say.

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Take it up with the BBC

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"lol yet more anti Scottish crap.

ive no idea why English folk are in such a huff ,,piss off, good riddens bla bla bla,etc,,lol its very childish

You don't own us we can stay or leave if we want.

And good luck to the Former United Kingdom

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By *etitesaraTV/TS over a year ago

rochdale

I'd like to see the figures that show the whisky export industry makes up 25% of UK exports, sounds like bollox to me.

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By *owayjose8Man over a year ago

dundee

The better together had protesters in one town with their banners then the leaders went to another town and some of the same faces in the crowd they were taken from one town to another by bus typically how London government conducts business

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The referendum is bringing out nasty characters in both camps and in both countries, not nice _iewing or reading!!

I see this as a win/win. The Scots get the independence they want. A long term Tory government will have time to make the changes rUK needs, before another Labour government comes in an fucks it up again.

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By *etitesaraTV/TS over a year ago

rochdale

Hmm, UK GDP in 2013 = £1489.1 billion.

Whisky industry worth 4.27 billion £.

Not exactly 25% of the UK economy then. As I said, complete bollox.

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By *etitesaraTV/TS over a year ago

rochdale

Whisky industry is worth somewhat less than half of 1% of the UK economy, sure the UK will survive without it.

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By *at69driveMan over a year ago

Hertford

"Aren't ya just sick of this bloody referendum ?

Let the Scots go if that's what they want.

Just piss off."
. In the short term a yes vote could have serious consequences for the UK economy. Most of Scotland's largest employers are opposed to it. We cannot just close our eyes to this issue.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The referendum is bringing out nasty characters in both camps and in both countries, not nice _iewing or reading!!

If Scotland gets independence and keeps the oil revenue,the UK economy would lose out to the tune of £30-40 Billion.That's a huge amount to lose for anybody.Then add Whiskey to that and it's quite an amount!

No wonder Westminster is trying so hard to keep a hold of the Union!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Whisky industry is worth somewhat less than half of 1% of the UK economy, sure the UK will survive without it."

We could up export taxes on Buckie wine to make up the shortfall

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By *etitesaraTV/TS over a year ago

rochdale

"The referendum is bringing out nasty characters in both camps and in both countries, not nice _iewing or reading!!

No wonder Westminster is trying so hard to keep a hold of the Union! "

Its a large chunk of money certainly, but it does have to be balanced against what Scotland's costs to run nie and the projected future when a rapidly ageing population is factored in.

Its quite certain that both will suffer, the argument is which will suffer more - I suspect the UK will do better in the longer term.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The referendum is bringing out nasty characters in both camps and in both countries, not nice _iewing or reading!!

No wonder Westminster is trying so hard to keep a hold of the Union! "

Oil will run out in the next 40 years, so its short term pain.

I would like to see what will happen to electricity bills. Currently the UK heavily subsidises distribution in Scotland through taxes built in to unit rates. It'll help rUK homes and businesses not having to pay for that.

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By *londeCazWoman over a year ago

Arse End of the Universe, Cumbria

"The referendum is bringing out nasty characters in both camps and in both countries, not nice _iewing or reading!!

I agree with Ben's comment as I think the Tories will walk a General Election without Scotland as part of the Union...however, I still hope for a No vote as I think a Yes vote would be very divisive for both Scotland and rUK, so I'm prepared to risk another coalition or **shudders** Milliband and Co getting in

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By *etitesaraTV/TS over a year ago

rochdale

Ive heard separatists talk about the Scottish renewable energy sector, yet that sector is heavily subsidised by the UK Govt. Will an independent Scotland be willing or able to offer the same subsidies in order to sell power to the UK?

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By *ighland_RoseCouple over a year ago

Brigadoon

If you aren't interested in it then don't watch or read about it. I'm not interested in the Olympics, the Commonwealth Games, the Football World cup, it's been all over the news but I don't complain about it, I just ignore it.

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By *ifferent69Man over a year ago

BRIGHTON, UK

I am equally fed up with the constant coverage on the referendum by the media.

Yes it is important.... But are we to believe that theres not more pressing issues elsewhere...

More I see of it the it reminds me of how much I dislike about politicians and the establishment.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I can't believe it has taken this long for people to wake up to how important this is

I'm hoping for a yes ! I m English and would prefer a stand alone England ! Yes we are a country ! Even if we're arnt on any legal forms or boxes to tick ! English and Proud

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I am equally fed up with the constant coverage on the referendum by the media.

Yes it is important.... But are we to believe that theres not more pressing issues elsewhere...

More I see of it the it reminds me of how much I dislike about politicians and the establishment."

And the media, they are just as bad IMO

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By *etitesaraTV/TS over a year ago

rochdale

"I can't believe it has taken this long for people to wake up to how important this is

I'm hoping for a yes ! I m English and would prefer a stand alone England ! Yes we are a country ! Even if we're arnt on any legal forms or boxes to tick ! English and Proud

I believe this will mark a rise in English Nationalism as a result. Whether that is a good thing remains to be seen, certainly the call for the Govt to 'play hardball' with Scotland in the Independence negotiations are getting louder. That I truly believe is a direct result of the SNP/Alex Salmond's posturing.

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By *uslaffMan over a year ago

manchester

"If you aren't interested in it then don't watch or read about it. I'm not interested in the Olympics, the Commonwealth Games, the Football World cup, it's been all over the news but I don't complain about it, I just ignore it."

How old is your telly ?

Are Amos and Mr Wilkes still on emmerdale ?

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By *ighland_RoseCouple over a year ago

Brigadoon

How old is your telly ?

Are Amos and Mr Wilkes still on emmerdale ?"

I don't watch TV, nor Soaps. I choose when to read the news or watch it online, if it doesn't interest me I turn it off.

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By *entaur_UKMan over a year ago

Cannock

"The referendum is bringing out nasty characters in both camps and in both countries, not nice _iewing or reading!!

Last thing the UK needs is another Labour government.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I am going to put my tick in the "I really don't give a shit either way" box.

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By *MD47Man over a year ago

Glasgow

"Aren't ya just sick of this bloody referendum ?

Let the Scots go if that's what they want.

Just piss off."

A very racist undertone in your post.

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By *uvhandleMan over a year ago

Huntly

Hello James,

"Aren't ya just sick of this bloody referendum ?"

Alec......another guy who has been brainwashed by his own government......answer me one simple question please, if we (Scotland) are such a drain on your resources, what with our 50% of population drawing benefits etc., then why are the powers that be so unwilling to let us go?......wake up and smell the roses guys....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Our whisky contributes £135 per second to the exchequer .

I'm a Scot with a vote and as much as I love England the party is over .

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By *etitesaraTV/TS over a year ago

rochdale

"Our whisky contributes £135 per second to the exchequer .

I'm a Scot with a vote and as much as I love England the party is over ."

Which works out at around one third of one percent of the UK GDP. Its a decent sum for an industry that employs very few people, but a vital industry? Not really.

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By *parkle1974Woman over a year ago

Leeds

Wish I had my vote, which would be yes but to be honest I can't see it happening so it's a lose/lose situation...

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By *nnyMan over a year ago

Glasgow

"Our whisky contributes £135 per second to the exchequer .

I'm a Scot with a vote and as much as I love England the party is over .

Which works out at around one third of one percent of the UK GDP. Its a decent sum for an industry that employs very few people, but a vital industry? Not really."

How much of the Scotch whisky industry is still owned in Scotland?

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By *etitesaraTV/TS over a year ago

rochdale

"Our whisky contributes £135 per second to the exchequer .

I'm a Scot with a vote and as much as I love England the party is over .

Which works out at around one third of one percent of the UK GDP. Its a decent sum for an industry that employs very few people, but a vital industry? Not really.

How much of the Scotch whisky industry is still owned in Scotland?"

No idea, I understand/believe that some of the island distilleries are locally owned but that many of the big mainland ones are owned by groups like diegio (spelling?) apologies, my blood type appears to be Rioja about now!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I have a timeshare in Scotland. It is a beautiful country. I will be sad to see it leave the UK

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Aren't ya just sick of this bloody referendum ?

Let the Scots go if that's what they want.

Just piss off."

Its an emotive subject but I have to agree its been flogged to death more than a barebacking cheater who doesn't show up on here.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Im fed up with the coverage x boring x

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By *uslaffMan over a year ago

manchester

"Aren't ya just sick of this bloody referendum ?

Let the Scots go if that's what they want.

Just piss off.

A very racist undertone in your post. "

Racist ?

Lol,please let them vote yes,racist for christs sake.

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By *MD47Man over a year ago

Glasgow

"Hello James,

"Aren't ya just sick of this bloody referendum ?"

Not all Scots want this. Its not over yet and the majority of polls have the No campaign in the lead, but there are still 18 percent undecided on what to do. A lot of folk on here seem to think that its a done deal for some reason? I am British, I was Born in Scotland and I want my UK Passport, I want to be British and want Scotland to remain part of the UK. I servered 15 years in the British Armed Forces to protect my Country the United Kingdom.

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By *MD47Man over a year ago

Glasgow

"Aren't ya just sick of this bloody referendum ?

Let the Scots go if that's what they want.

Just piss off.

A very racist undertone in your post.

Racist ?

Lol,please let them vote yes,racist for christs sake."

Do you actually have a clue what it is all about? The economics of it for starters or are you just someone who thinks ah well never mind them. Really sad indeed.

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By *abioMan over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

It think the tide of nationalism is now bordering on being xenophobic..... its now toxic....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

People think we are wanting independence so we can line our pockets, or chase some unobtainable dream, or that we all hate the english.

The truth is we want to protect our nhs, and look after the poor instead of the rich, and we want our vote to count. It's not a lot to ask for.

I'm sure the north of england can sympathise after seeing their own industries decimated by underinvestment over the years.

We also have a chance to get away from selfserving corrupt politicians in westminster. (all parties)

One thing i find deeply disturbing is the bias of the supposedly impartial bbc. We may not be talking north korea level of lies, but the corruption that has been exposed is frightening.

One small snip of information they keep peddling -

Scotland get £1200 more per head of population than UK.

This is true.

What is also true is scotland raises £2000 more tax revinue than the rest of the Uk.

These figures are freely available and in the same report westminster uses to quote figures.

We know it will be difficult, but we want to at least try to make our country a better place to live.

Regardless of the outcome, over 80% are expected to vote.

When was the last time there was a turn out like that for a vote ?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Ps if we are that bad, we are surely doing you a favour and you should be thanking us.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The OP should take a good long hard look at himself for his abusive and offence comment at the start of this post. It's a disgrace and disgusting behaviour to post stuff like that in this day and and age and behave in a manner which offends others.

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By *abioMan over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"The OP should take a good long hard look at himself for his abusive and offence comment at the start of this post. It's a disgrace and disgusting behaviour to post stuff like that in this day and and age and behave in a manner which offends others.

anymore offensive than lets say alex salmond using the term "team scotland" for yes voters.... to disparage anyone thinking of voting NO

I think the toxic rhetoric is coming from all sides.... lets not forget jim sellars comments yesterday about making those firms who are looking to protect assets by moving them south in the case of a yes vote "pay in their day of reckoning"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

What's has that got to do with the Original Poster of this post.

We are all one and comments like what he said about Scottish people are disgusting and a disgrace.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Scotland part of a small group of countries, United Kingdom......let's leave ...then join Europe er um a bigger group of countries hmmm Independence.?? Anyone else see the irony there ? Lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

In the early 90's I switch from a pound mortgage to a euro mortgage. Then Lamont dropped us out of the ERM, ... My mortgage loan size jumped by 20% .. My interest rate from 4% to 16%. ...f**cked and not in a fs way.

This will be only one of the things those with mortgages in Scotland will experience.

As a nation heard in Westminster with over 40 MPs they will drop to 5m people in a 500m people Europe. Governed by Brussels with no voice.

UK will lose authority and power across the globe and lose their seat on the security council. The GDP will crash, the economy of the UK with it.

The Oil in Scotland earns under 3bn a year. The pension bill in Scotland is over 9bn. They will be bankrupt from day one.

Finally, the Labour party in the UK will never take office again as they will not have sufficient seats over the Conservatives. No matter what you personally vote do you really want it to be about one party?

It may be annoying hearing it on the news, but if they leave we are all going to suffer badly, the Scottish even more so. I think it will be the end of their country as the population will have to leave to survive.

However, will the tv droning on about it change the minds of the voters. I doubt it. Tv does not change my mind.

Just turn the tv off and hope they vote no.

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By *etitesaraTV/TS over a year ago

rochdale

'protect the NHS'

Well then, don't vote for the SNP in a future iScotland election as Alex Salmond has overseen a reduction in funding of the Scottish NHS whilst the Barnett Formula has seen an increase in funds coming from Westminster.

By all means vote for independence but do it based on hard data, not Salmond's guff.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Hmm, UK GDP in 2013 = £1489.1 billion.

Whisky industry worth 4.27 billion £.

Not exactly 25% of the UK economy then. As I said, complete bollox."

I did wonder about the figures lol

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By *ozzy87Man over a year ago

Crawley

When is it over exactly? I keep hearing soon.

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By *irtyGirlWoman over a year ago

Edinburgh

You know what I object to? I object to being lumped in with 'them'. It's such a common generalisation. Let 'them' piss off? Which part of that do you think is okay?

I'm proud to be Scottish most of the time. At the moment I'm absolutely horrified by the nastiness and small minded people who think it's okay to be vile about people they don't know simply because a referendum has been forced upon us.

I don't understand why the whole of the UK are not entitled to vote. It doesn't just affect people living in Scotland and it isn't just Scots who are allowed to vote. People who live in Scotland are allowed to vote, that includes Polish people, Australians and anyone else who happens to live here. Scottish people who are currently working abroad but have property here don't get to vote. How is that okay?

The impact on England will be huge. Why do people living in England not get to have their say?

I'm sick hearing about it. I'm sick looking at ridiculous posters in windows. I'm sick of no answers to reasonable questions. I'm sick of reading shite like this from uninformed people because they're too lazy to turn off their TV. I'm sick of the vitriolic personal attacks on a nation who didn't get to vote that we should have a referendum. I'm sick of the thought that on the 19th September, whatever the result, this bilge will not stop. I'm sick of all if it.

So next time you feel the urge to be so rude, spare a thought for those of us who never wanted any of this to come about and consider whether it's okay to tell random strangers to piss off for doing nothing wrong.

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By *teveanddebsCouple over a year ago

Norwich

Everything I see and read from the 'No' campaign just seems to confirm that rUK would be better off if the scots vote yes.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

what DirtyGirl said. Turn off the TV and go about your lives this is about politicians and media companies and ends on the 19th.

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By *unybunyWoman over a year ago

Living in a Scottish office somewhere

totally sick of the whole thing, fed up of people at the door asking how I am going to vote wish they would all piss off doesnt really matter what way it goes as we are damned if we do with tax rises etc and damned if we dont by being put on the naughty step and hammered by westminster

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I wouldnt mind seeing how a vote from the north of england would go for independence from Westminster!

The democratic republic of the northern territories / northern england (depending on your _iews of the monarchy...but thats another can if worms)

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By *dventuroususCouple over a year ago

sunderland

It is a disaster waiting to happen if a yes vote prevails, you only need look at history, the differences the 2 countries had, how they dealt with them, then what we came through "TOGETHER" to see that we are and should remain as a united kingdom.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Dirty Girl should be P M

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By *etitesaraTV/TS over a year ago

rochdale

Ive said this before, but all this has created a lot of resentment outside of Scotland & created a deep division inside Scotland.

Should the vote be a YES vote I can see people in the UK boycotting Scottish goods - after all we are forever being urged to Buy British are we not?

There will be no winners no matter what the vote, the anger and resentment created will take a long time to die down to the detriment of us all.

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By *U1966Man over a year ago

Devon

I want Scotland to vote no even though it will the rest of the UK more money but if they vote yes then full border controls and treat them like the foreign country they will be

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By *iewMan over a year ago
Forum Mod

Angus & Findhorn

for one thing for sure...... it's going to get nastier

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By *etitesaraTV/TS over a year ago

rochdale

Full border control would have to happen anyway should Scotland be accepted into the EU, due to the Schengen Agreement.

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By *etitesaraTV/TS over a year ago

rochdale

"for one thing for sure...... it's going to get nastier"

Yep.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"it's still a No from me...

And me too

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By *vsnikkiTV/TS over a year ago

Limavady

Years ago I was in Guyana which had been British Guinea prior to independence. There were obvious things that had suffered financially eg health care and roads but the vast majority of people that I asked were glad that they had gained independence. Britain was generally _iewed with affection

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Full border control would have to happen anyway should Scotland be accepted into the EU, due to the Schengen Agreement."

You mean like between ireland and northern ireland ?

It's another scare story that even the NO campaign admitted was a lie.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Contrary to what you are told, scotland is a net contributor. They put in £800 per head of population MORE than they take out. It is in the westminster report if you bother to read it.

Plus a big thing lately has been about the UK credit rating dropping from AAA to AA.

Two of the things they use as collateral for getting a good credit rating is Oil,and Whisky revenues.

It WONT be good for england if we get independence.

this is not an anti english thing, it's an anti westminster thing. We are sick of the lies and corruption

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By *etitesaraTV/TS over a year ago

rochdale

"Full border control would have to happen anyway should Scotland be accepted into the EU, due to the Schengen Agreement.

You mean like between ireland and northern ireland ?

It's another scare story that even the NO campaign admitted was a lie."

The Irish Republic has an exemption from Schengen, just like the UK. There is no saying that iScotland will be able to obtain the same exemption therefore it is quite possible that border controls will have to be implemented.

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By *abioMan over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"Full border control would have to happen anyway should Scotland be accepted into the EU, due to the Schengen Agreement.

You mean like between ireland and northern ireland ?

It's another scare story that even the NO campaign admitted was a lie."

Not quite true.... The uk and Ireland have an opt out separate agreement within the Schengen Agreement ( the treaty of Amsterdam ) which mean that you can trace freely between them to protect Ireland North/south travel

If one side decided to join Schengen and the other didn't then the treaty would become void

So since all new eu countries are expected to join Schengen... Even if you did manage to get out of that (which no one has said you definitely will or even if that is negotiable) you will be left with a choice...

Freedom of travel in the rest of the uk and Ireland.... Or freedom of travel without a passport in the rest of Europe..... You can't have both!

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By *ordweaver2018Man over a year ago

Carlisle

"The referendum is bringing out nasty characters in both camps and in both countries, not nice _iewing or reading!!

Maybe Cumbria should go independent! Fed up of poncy southerners anyway! Ha ha ha

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Contrary to what you are told, scotland is a net contributor. They put in £800 per head of population MORE than they take out. It is in the westminster report if you bother to read it.

Plus a big thing lately has been about the UK credit rating dropping from AAA to AA.

Two of the things they use as collateral for getting a good credit rating is Oil,and Whisky revenues.

It WONT be good for england if we get independence.

this is not an anti english thing, it's an anti westminster thing. We are sick of the lies and corruption"

Do you really believe lies and corruption will stop if independence is achieved ?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The referendum is bringing out nasty characters in both camps and in both countries, not nice _iewing or reading!!

Last thing the UK needs is another Labour government. "
Yes as they build schools and hospitals and social housing

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

As a Scot living in England I constantly get, "Well if you want to leave,fuck off then!"

The general ignorance from the English is frightening.The UK needs Scotland.

The oil is an interesting issue.I think we are the only country to discover oil but be poorer for it!

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By *uslaffMan over a year ago

manchester

"Aren't ya just sick of this bloody referendum ?

Let the Scots go if that's what they want.

Just piss off.

A very racist undertone in your post.

Racist ?

Lol,please let them vote yes,racist for christs sake.

Do you actually have a clue what it is all about? The economics of it for starters or are you just someone who thinks ah well never mind them. Really sad indeed."

No,not got a clue.

Please enlighten me by private message,I'll read it later. Bit busy with a double figure jigsaw at the moment.......cheers precious !

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By *uslaffMan over a year ago

manchester

"As a Scot living in England I constantly get, "Well if you want to leave,fuck off then!"

The general ignorance from the English is frightening.The UK needs Scotland.

The oil is an interesting issue.I think we are the only country to discover oil but be poorer for it!

Yep,the UK really needs people that savvy

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By *hrissie1961Woman over a year ago

dumfries and galloway

"I can't believe it has taken this long for people to wake up to how important this is

I'm hoping for a yes ! I m English and would prefer a stand alone England ! Yes we are a country ! Even if we're arnt on any legal forms or boxes to tick ! English and Proud

Small matter of Wales and Northern Ireland....

I think England should have it's own assembly and then a small parliament for the national issues

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By *illwill69uMan over a year ago

moston

Dont worry, we will soon be able to start rebuilding the wall and lock the gate to keep the wode waring heathen out of our green and pleasant land!

Tin hat ready, INCOMING!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Scotland will vote yes I'm confident of that. Then we will be able to make our own political choices it's that simple.

As for the EU. They will accommodate us, we have 20% of the fish stocks and. 60% of the oil.

We can use the pound no problem.

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By *nnyMan over a year ago

Glasgow

"Scotland will vote yes I'm confident of that. Then we will be able to make our own political choices it's that simple.

As for the EU. They will accommodate us, we have 20% of the fish stocks and. 60% of the oil.

We can use the pound no problem.

I dunno how you can say that on the day the Broons AND Oor Willie have come out for No

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By *entaur_UKMan over a year ago

Cannock

One thing i find deeply disturbing is the bias of the supposedly impartial bbc. We may not be talking north korea level of lies, but the corruption that has been exposed is frightening.

I've been saying the bbc is bias for years, you only have to look at their coverage of the Israel/palestine situation to see that. Impartial, fair and balanced are not words i associate with the bbc.

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By *entaur_UKMan over a year ago

Cannock

"The referendum is bringing out nasty characters in both camps and in both countries, not nice _iewing or reading!!

Last thing the UK needs is another Labour government. Yes as they build schools and hospitals and social housing

Are you sure about that, i would'nt call their record of building social housing during 13 years in power from 1997 onward as impressive, in fact woefully inadequate is what i'd call it. And as you mention hospitals look at how Labour run the Nhs, as the ruling party in Wales they've practically ruined the Nhs there. Then there was the Stafford hospital scandal where patients had to drink from dirty flower vases in order to get water, that happened under Labour rule as i recall.

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By *extoysareusCouple over a year ago

kinky heaven

There's massive protests against the bbcs propaganda and bias happening now

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By *abioMan over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"There's massive protests against the bbcs propaganda and bias happening now"

which is quite ironic bearing in mind the bbc is one of the bit alex wants to "keep"....

you should get to keep all the really good programmes bbc scotland produces... (basically the only one still on the main bbc network is mrs browns boys) and well keep the rest...

oh and charge you extra for that content thru "bbc worldwide" and "bbc iplayer"

on the plus side... you'd then only have to pay for the bbc programs you truely want to watch........

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

having seen the drivle the bbc produces i dont think i will be purchasing too much content from them come freedome day

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By *nnyMan over a year ago

Glasgow

There's a rammy going on at Pacific Quay ( BBC Scotland HQ) as Nats call for Jackie Bird and Nick Robinson to be sacked 'cos they didn't show enough deference to Eck.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

lol the funnie thing is. I can already see England bail Scotland out for making the biggest mistake ever, let them make the mistake of a lifetime

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

the biggest mistake ever was in 1707 , Scotland has been enduring it ever since

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By *entaur_UKMan over a year ago

Cannock

"having seen the drivle the bbc produces i dont think i will be purchasing too much content from them come freedome day

The bbc license fee is so outdated now its a joke. Its about time the bbc reformed and adapted to the modern era, it should operate either like the ITV or channel 4 with advertisment revenue to fund itself, or it should go down the sky sports route and offer a freedom of choice subscription service.

Is a disgrace that we are forced to pay for the bbc through tv license fee.

If they did go for the freedom of choice subscription service though, honestly who would want to subscribe to it?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

god no , its absolute crap , definitely needs sending down the shit can

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think they were abit d*unk when coming up with the idea lol.

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By *otlovefun42Couple over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

"Scotland will vote yes I'm confident of that. Then we will be able to make our own political choices it's that simple.

As for the EU. They will accommodate us, we have 20% of the fish stocks and. 60% of the oil.

We can use the pound no problem.

1) Scotland may vote yes and if it does it will be able to make the political choices that Brussels allows it to make. If you don't believe me, try looking up Irish referendums.

2) The EU will not accomodate Scotland. There is a much bigger picture and the last thing that Brussels will do is set a dangerous precedent. Apart from that Spain will not allow it.

3) How many times does this have to be said? An independent Scotland cannot use the pound as it does now.

On a day to day basis Scotland can choose any currency it wants. Dollars, Roubles, Yen, the list is endless, and as long as people will accept it then there is no problem. However a national currency is a lot more than a few bits of paper you spend in Tesco.

Should the Bank of England agree to a currency share (which it wont) then it would have to oversee and agree Scotland's budget and set Scotland's interest rates. All independence on financial policy would be lost. Sharing a currency with little or no control from the central supporting bank has been tried and it failed spectacularly, and no-one will allow it to happen again. In plain language, the Greeks have pissed on your chips as far as any ideas in that direction are concerned.

The alternatives are a Scottish pound backed up by a Scottish central bank, but that would instantly devalue. Most commentators are predicting anything from 20-50%. Or Scotland could just join the Euro, which if it wants to be a member the EU it will ultimately have to do anyway.

The only thing for certain is that Salmond's wild spending plans will be blown out of the water, whichever way it goes.

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By *ranthamThroatMan over a year ago

Grantham.

"Dont worry, we will soon be able to start rebuilding the wall and lock the gate to keep the wode waring heathen out of our green and pleasant land!

Tin hat ready, INCOMING!

It was the Romans, not the English who built the walls, ( plural ), just saying like, so rebuilding it is idiotic!

Would it perhaps be a physical border at Hadrian's wall?

Hard to see it happening as it is a long way from the actual border....yawn..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"There's a rammy going on at Pacific Quay ( BBC Scotland HQ) as Nats call for Jackie Bird and Nick Robinson to be sacked 'cos they didn't show enough deference to Eck."

Onny did you watch the Andrew Marr show this morning?

Just wondering what you think about Salmond offering Darling a place on the Scottish negotiating team if theres a yes vote.

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By *etitesaraTV/TS over a year ago

rochdale

"Dont worry, we will soon be able to start rebuilding the wall and lock the gate to keep the wode waring heathen out of our green and pleasant land!

Tin hat ready, INCOMING!

It was the Romans, not the English who built the walls, ( plural ), just saying like, so rebuilding it is idiotic!

Would it perhaps be a physical border at Hadrian's wall?

Hard to see it happening as it is a long way from the actual border....yawn..

It should be the Antonine Wall if any!

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By *ranthamThroatMan over a year ago

Grantham.

"Dont worry, we will soon be able to start rebuilding the wall and lock the gate to keep the wode waring heathen out of our green and pleasant land!

Tin hat ready, INCOMING!

It was the Romans, not the English who built the walls, ( plural ), just saying like, so rebuilding it is idiotic!

Would it perhaps be a physical border at Hadrian's wall?

Hard to see it happening as it is a long way from the actual border....yawn..

It should be the Antonine Wall if any!"

Not really as the person I replied to wanted to rebuild Hadrian's Wall, and Antonine's is but an earth mound, unlikely to keep any invader out I wondered if he was offering Scotland new land by his declarative

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The referendum is bringing out nasty characters in both camps and in both countries, not nice _iewing or reading!!

That's actually bollocks, Labour would have won the elections in 1997, 2001 and 2005 even if the Scottish vote wasn't included. If they aren't going to be elected in the foreseeable it's because their leadership is crap, not because they're being propped up by the Scots.

And there's arguably far more democratic deficit in the northern English regions at present than Scotland is suffering' from. The English regions have none of the powers that the Scottish parliament got under devolution in 1997, let alone those it's being promised by devo-max. Somewhere like the North East is politically, geographically and culturally just as far from Westminster as most of Scotland is and I hope there's a lot more devolution to regions in the event of a no vote in the referendum - if Scotland is going to get all these additional powers, northern regions with economically active populations that are just as big as Scotland's deserve the same.

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By *nnyMan over a year ago

Glasgow

"There's a rammy going on at Pacific Quay ( BBC Scotland HQ) as Nats call for Jackie Bird and Nick Robinson to be sacked 'cos they didn't show enough deference to Eck.

Onny did you watch the Andrew Marr show this morning?

Just wondering what you think about Salmond offering Darling a place on the Scottish negotiating team if theres a yes vote."

I'm never awake at that hour but I can understand Eck wanting someone with genuine international finance experience on the team.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

As an englishman in Scotland its bloody annoying,its like a bad soap storyline that's dragged on for too long,the sooner its over the better,and from what I've noticed as an "outsider" you're seen as a traitor if you want to stay part of the union

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By *ranthamThroatMan over a year ago

Grantham.

"The referendum is bringing out nasty characters in both camps and in both countries, not nice _iewing or reading!!

To quote you, BOLLOCKS AND TOTAL BOLLOCKS..

Why as they are the same country?, even if they are in a Labour areas but have Conservative Government?

Nothing to do with democratic deficit but Sovereignty - a great difference!

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By *illwill69uMan over a year ago

moston

To be honest I was actually thinking about something like the fence that ran along the border between East and West Germany, or more accurately like the one that runs along the US Mexican border.

After all if they vote yes I am sure the Scots will be just anxious to keep us out of their land of milk and honey as the EU will be of securing its new border with a non EU country.

However it was easier to say start rebuilding the wall (and I didn't say which wall).

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By *unknSoulCouple over a year ago

dumfries-ish

Can understand why people are fed up listening about it. Think you have to have a vote to be fully into it

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By *ilandlarryCouple over a year ago

more north lincs than mids!

The animosity that comes across because of the whole thing makes me sick to my stomach. Whether it be between yes and no voters or between English and Scots.

As I said previously, I'm so glad I don't have a vote because you can't get any real sense from anyone about it. It's all bent to fit their own agenda.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"There's a rammy going on at Pacific Quay ( BBC Scotland HQ) as Nats call for Jackie Bird and Nick Robinson to be sacked 'cos they didn't show enough deference to Eck.

Onny did you watch the Andrew Marr show this morning?

Just wondering what you think about Salmond offering Darling a place on the Scottish negotiating team if theres a yes vote.

I'm never awake at that hour but I can understand Eck wanting someone with genuine international finance experience on the team."

yeah i thought along similar lines, experience of the inner workings of the treasury. But on the other hand his position on currency union etc could be a handicap.

oh and what do you think of the BBC website misrepresenting that offer as an invitation to join the yes campaign ?

BBC impartial, my arse

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

To quote you, BOLLOCKS AND TOTAL BOLLOCKS..

Why as they are the same country?, even if they are in a Labour areas but have Conservative Government?

Nothing to do with democratic deficit but Sovereignty - a great difference!

It's nothing to do with being Labour or Conservative areas. It's because if local decision-making on some issues (e.g. infrastructure spending, genuine local taxation, economic development) is appropriate for one area i.e. Scotland then it's appropriate for other areas like Greater Manchester, Yorkshire, the South West etc. too.

Not in favour of regional assemblies but England needs a voice too.

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By *abioMan over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"To be honest I was actually thinking about something like the fence that ran along the border between East and West Germany, or more accurately like the one that runs along the US Mexican border.

After all if they vote yes I am sure the Scots will be just anxious to keep us out of their land of milk and honey as the EU will be of securing its new border with a non EU country.

However it was easier to say start rebuilding the wall (and I didn't say which wall).

can we hold out lighters up in the air and whistle " the winds of change" whilst we are at it.....

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By *nnyMan over a year ago

Glasgow

"As an englishman in Scotland its bloody annoying,its like a bad soap storyline that's dragged on for too long,the sooner its over the better,and from what I've noticed as an "outsider" you're seen as a traitor if you want to stay part of the union"

You can be born, bred, educated, married, lived in the same community all your life, served your country and be an active volunteer in Scotland but the Nats will still see you as a traitor if you've voted No.

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By *illwill69uMan over a year ago

moston

"To be honest I was actually thinking about something like the fence that ran along the border between East and West Germany, or more accurately like the one that runs along the US Mexican border.

After all if they vote yes I am sure the Scots will be just anxious to keep us out of their land of milk and honey as the EU will be of securing its new border with a non EU country.

However it was easier to say start rebuilding the wall (and I didn't say which wall).

can we hold out lighters up in the air and whistle " the winds of change" whilst we are at it.....

I'm not able to whistle...

Can I hum?

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By *oxy_minxWoman over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen

That's why my vote has already been cast! I do fear the repercussions though

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By *nnyMan over a year ago

Glasgow

"There's a rammy going on at Pacific Quay ( BBC Scotland HQ) as Nats call for Jackie Bird and Nick Robinson to be sacked 'cos they didn't show enough deference to Eck.

Onny did you watch the Andrew Marr show this morning?

Just wondering what you think about Salmond offering Darling a place on the Scottish negotiating team if theres a yes vote.

I'm never awake at that hour but I can understand Eck wanting someone with genuine international finance experience on the team.

yeah i thought along similar lines, experience of the inner workings of the treasury. But on the other hand his position on currency union etc could be a handicap.

oh and what do you think of the BBC website misrepresenting that offer as an invitation to join the yes campaign ?

BBC impartial, my arse

His (Darling's) position on currency union is correct and, in the unlikely event of a Yes vote, he will be shown to have called it right all the way through.

I haven't seen that comment on BBC website.

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By *unknSoulCouple over a year ago

dumfries-ish

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"There's a rammy going on at Pacific Quay ( BBC Scotland HQ) as Nats call for Jackie Bird and Nick Robinson to be sacked 'cos they didn't show enough deference to Eck.

Onny did you watch the Andrew Marr show this morning?

Just wondering what you think about Salmond offering Darling a place on the Scottish negotiating team if theres a yes vote.

I'm never awake at that hour but I can understand Eck wanting someone with genuine international finance experience on the team.

yeah i thought along similar lines, experience of the inner workings of the treasury. But on the other hand his position on currency union etc could be a handicap.

oh and what do you think of the BBC website misrepresenting that offer as an invitation to join the yes campaign ?

BBC impartial, my arse

His (Darling's) position on currency union is correct and, in the unlikely event of a Yes vote, he will be shown to have called it right all the way through.

I haven't seen that comment on BBC website."

referendum live feed at 10:07, wee bit embarrassing for the BBC in my _iew, Nick Robinson caught out a couple of days ago and now this.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Thats rather depressing if you really feel that way people should be allowed to vote as they wish without scorn.

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By *unknSoulCouple over a year ago

dumfries-ish

If its a no Westminster fat cats will be overjoyed as there will be still be a big pot for them to lick the cream off. Mmmmmm

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Aren't ya just sick of this bloody referendum ?

Let the Scots go if that's what they want.

Just piss off."

I am with you, just piss off , the idle moaning scots have had it to goood to long.

and if they stay !!! then things must change , they will come under to control of westminster like the rest of the uk .

we have been treating them like children giving them what they want !!!

Its time to smack their arses tell them to dry their eyes , and start working for the common good, like the rest of us .

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By *b430Man over a year ago

Tayside

"Aren't ya just sick of this bloody referendum ?

Let the Scots go if that's what they want.

Just piss off.

I am with you, just piss off , the idle moaning scots have had it to goood to long.

and if they stay !!! then things must change , they will come under to control of westminster like the rest of the uk .

we have been treating them like children giving them what they want !!!

Its time to smack their arses tell them to dry their eyes , and start working for the common good, like the rest of us ."

Are you feeling left out, missing getting to play in the current game?

Don't worry it'll all be ok come Friday...

There there, have a hug and a wee lie down and try not to worry too much...

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By *ranthamThroatMan over a year ago

Grantham.

"Aren't ya just sick of this bloody referendum ?

Let the Scots go if that's what they want.

Just piss off.

I am with you, just piss off , the idle moaning scots have had it to goood to long.

and if they stay !!! then things must change , they will come under to control of westminster like the rest of the uk .

we have been treating them like children giving them what they want !!!

Its time to smack their arses tell them to dry their eyes , and start working for the common good, like the rest of us ."

Time your age was bigger than your shoe age.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The referendum is bringing out nasty characters in both camps and in both countries, not nice _iewing or reading!!

Last thing the UK needs is another Labour government. Yes as they build schools and hospitals and social housing

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By *entaur_UKMan over a year ago

Cannock

"The referendum is bringing out nasty characters in both camps and in both countries, not nice _iewing or reading!!

Last thing the UK needs is another Labour government. Yes as they build schools and hospitals and social housing

I'm not wealthy and i don't live down south, i live in the midlands quite close to stafford hospital as it happens so i know quite a lot about what went on there under Labour party rule. I'm a working class bloke and the Labour party betrayed the working class in this country during their 13 years in power.

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By *isscheekychopsWoman over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

There has been no local authority housing been built around here for years....Housing associations are doing the majority of the building of social housing

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By *ibbyhunterCouple over a year ago

keighley

which ever way the vote goes i hope the good people of scotland remember the big buisness's and company's who have tried to bully and threaten the electorate, by saying they may move their headquarters to london if the vote goes against them,

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By *nnyMan over a year ago

Glasgow

"There has been no local authority housing been built around here for years....Housing associations are doing the majority of the building of social housing "

Pretty much the same here although a chunk of the shortfall (between build costs and anticipated rental income over 30 years ) comes from the local authority. The LA gets some of this money from Holyrood.

Unfortunately Holyrood decreed the amount per home should be cut (in the hope of making the cake go further) but the sum left for each home isn't enough to cover that shortfall.

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By *entaur_UKMan over a year ago

Cannock

"There has been no local authority housing been built around here for years....Housing associations are doing the majority of the building of social housing "

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Ive heard separatists talk about the Scottish renewable energy sector, yet that sector is heavily subsidised by the UK Govt. Will an independent Scotland be willing or able to offer the same subsidies in order to sell power to the UK?"

No they will rely on the UK for subsidies should they get into Europe, if not there in deep shit... if not Alex Salmond will go on blaming the UK for years to come,

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By *isscheekychopsWoman over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"There has been no local authority housing been built around here for years....Housing associations are doing the majority of the building of social housing

I think they have got a lot better with the standard of housing and are sorting out the maintenance issue

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"There has been no local authority housing been built around here for years....Housing associations are doing the majority of the building of social housing

There is no win on that one as one party sold the good ones off and the other let the poor ones go to ruin. Neither party really wanted to fund social housing at the level it was at.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I love the debate, never

have I seen Scottish people so interested in political discussion, that in itself is good

of course thats because for once it actually matters

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

cant stand anti Scottish no voters cant stand anti English yes voters.

its nothing to do with that.

I know Nigerians ,Indians,english scots that are voting YES,its nothing to do with where yer born its to do with where you live .

fucking grow up with the race crap,ya sound like aresholes

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"There has been no local authority housing been built around here for years....Housing associations are doing the majority of the building of social housing

Yes and i was reading in the newspaper earlier today that because of Labour party cuts to the maintenance of council housing budget while they were in power, there is now a record number of inadequate housing which is unfit to live in because of damp and mould problems. It is the Con/Lib dem coalition who has increased spending in this area to bring council houses back up to adequate living standards. Again clearing up Labours mess. "
You will find that money came from europe not the tories...do your homework.....the housing associations are the work of massive companies such as mears and morrison buying up existing housing stock...really open your eyes

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The referendum is bringing out nasty characters in both camps and in both countries, not nice _iewing or reading!!

Last thing the UK needs is another Labour government. Yes as they build schools and hospitals and social housing

Labour betrayed the working classes by providing everything the tories stop once in power!!

really dont know whether to laugh or cry this end,you live by a hospital thats filthy with bad management....honestly wise up

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By *entaur_UKMan over a year ago

Cannock

"There has been no local authority housing been built around here for years....Housing associations are doing the majority of the building of social housing

Yes and i was reading in the newspaper earlier today that because of Labour party cuts to the maintenance of council housing budget while they were in power, there is now a record number of inadequate housing which is unfit to live in because of damp and mould problems. It is the Con/Lib dem coalition who has increased spending in this area to bring council houses back up to adequate living standards. Again clearing up Labours mess. You will find that money came from europe not the tories...do your homework.....the housing associations are the work of massive companies such as mears and morrison buying up existing housing stock...really open your eyes"

We were in the EU under Labour, so they could've chosen to spend that "money from europe" on maintenance of council houses. Instead Labour chose to cut the housing maintenance budget, maybe you need to open your eyes

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

lol,,I pity FUK, the former united kingdom

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"There has been no local authority housing been built around here for years....Housing associations are doing the majority of the building of social housing

Yes and i was reading in the newspaper earlier today that because of Labour party cuts to the maintenance of council housing budget while they were in power, there is now a record number of inadequate housing which is unfit to live in because of damp and mould problems. It is the Con/Lib dem coalition who has increased spending in this area to bring council houses back up to adequate living standards. Again clearing up Labours mess. You will find that money came from europe not the tories...do your homework.....the housing associations are the work of massive companies such as mears and morrison buying up existing housing stock...really open your eyes

Sadly you are spot on there its shameful what has happened.

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By *entaur_UKMan over a year ago

Cannock

"The referendum is bringing out nasty characters in both camps and in both countries, not nice _iewing or reading!!

Last thing the UK needs is another Labour government. Yes as they build schools and hospitals and social housing

Labour betrayed the working classes by providing everything the tories stop once in power!!

really dont know whether to laugh or cry this end,you live by a hospital thats filthy with bad management....honestly wise up"

Stafford hospital was fine under the tories as were many other hospitals up until Labour came along. It was changes that Labour made to the Nhs that lead to what happened at stafford hospital and many other hospitals accross the country. More emphasis on management and office staff instead of front line doctors and nurses. Labours insistence on meeting strict waiting times guidelines for patients in A and E which meant many patients were rushed through not treated properly (patient negligence) so doctors and nurses could meet Labours waiting time targets. Then understaffing of nurses and doctors on the wards, it seems you are the one who needs to do some research.

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By *entaur_UKMan over a year ago

Cannock

"There has been no local authority housing been built around here for years....Housing associations are doing the majority of the building of social housing

Yes and i was reading in the newspaper earlier today that because of Labour party cuts to the maintenance of council housing budget while they were in power, there is now a record number of inadequate housing which is unfit to live in because of damp and mould problems. It is the Con/Lib dem coalition who has increased spending in this area to bring council houses back up to adequate living standards. Again clearing up Labours mess. You will find that money came from europe not the tories...do your homework.....the housing associations are the work of massive companies such as mears and morrison buying up existing housing stock...really open your eyes"

For the record i'm not talking about housing association houses such as mears, morrisons, sanctuary or midland heart which are in effect private companies. I'm talking about government owned council houses.

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