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Its going both ways, the sneering and contempt from some separatists is quite unpleasant also.
The one thing we can be sure of is that this debate has soured terribly the relations between Scotland and the rest of the UK. Whatever the outcome next week, Scotland will be very divided and we will all have to pick up the pieces.
On a lighter note, whichever side loses will blame the English!  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I came on went to forum and first one I looked at was clocks turning back checkout it out
All referendum talk should be banned on fab as fab isn't a political site
We come here to have fun |
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"I came on went to forum and first one I looked at was clocks turning back checkout it out
All referendum talk should be banned on fab as fab isn't a political site
We come here to have fun "
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"I came on went to forum and first one I looked at was clocks turning back checkout it out
All referendum talk should be banned on fab as fab isn't a political site
We come here to have fun "
You can avoid any thread you don't want to read |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I thought it was the Scots who hated the English.
They must do if they want to destroy the United Kingdom,wierd"
Eh not all us Scots are Salmonds puppets! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Really no need to pick up our pieces thanks we can manage quite well on our own ????"
With what currency? If you keep the pound...and I would be happy to see it either way...then you will SIMPLY NOT be independent. Bank of ENGLAND will set your interest rates.
RBS and several other major companies have already said they will up sticks and move HQ to England if vote goes yes.
I think the decision is entirely up to Scotland. I don't have an opinion either way. But a yes vote will certainly leave Scotland in the shit! But hey....it will be their shit! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I thought it was the Scots who hated the English.
They must do if they want to destroy the United Kingdom,wierd
Eh not all us Scots are Salmonds puppets!"
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I haven't really taken much notice of this to be honest. But can somebody tell me, if they do vote for independence, will the NHS still be available in Scotland? Apologies if that is a thick question. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I came on went to forum and first one I looked at was clocks turning back checkout it out
All referendum talk should be banned on fab as fab isn't a political site
We come here to have fun
You can avoid any thread you don't want to read "
I was interested in the title of the thread
So entered without knowing what it would consist of ?
So can't avoid threads without first seeing what the content of said thread is  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"What kind of people would invent haggis, toss cabers and dress in skirts?  "
the same ones that invented pneumatic tyres
Tarmac
Television
Telephones
Football
Golf etc etc |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"I came on went to forum and first one I looked at was clocks turning back checkout it out
All referendum talk should be banned on fab as fab isn't a political site
We come here to have fun
You can avoid any thread you don't want to read
I was interested in the title of the thread
So entered without knowing what it would consist of ?
So can't avoid threads without first seeing what the content of said thread is "
They can still be avoided.You just close it again.
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"What kind of people would invent haggis, toss cabers and dress in skirts?
the same ones that invented pneumatic tyres
Tarmac
Television
Telephones
Football
Golf etc etc"
Golf! That's a good enough reason to have Scotland excommunicated!
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I came on went to forum and first one I looked at was clocks turning back checkout it out
All referendum talk should be banned on fab as fab isn't a political site
We come here to have fun
You can avoid any thread you don't want to read
I was interested in the title of the thread
So entered without knowing what it would consist of ?
So can't avoid threads without first seeing what the content of said thread is
They can still be avoided.You just close it again.
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Yes I know this and duely avoided
I'm quite clever that way |
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"What kind of people would invent haggis, toss cabers and dress in skirts?
the same ones that invented pneumatic tyres
Tarmac
Television
Telephones
Football
Golf etc etc
Golf! That's a good enough reason to have Scotland excommunicated!
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Lol true  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I havent seen any hatred on here, I have elsewhere though and not just between england and scotland but have heard of it between scots themselves! Whats wrong with people, honestly.
It makes me sad. Before all this started there was the usual friendly banter now its getting a little over the top. I cant wait for it to be over to be honest getting a little fed up with it. 
For anyone reading this I hope it all turns out bonnie for everyone, regardless of your position. xx |
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"I havent seen any hatred on here, I have elsewhere though and not just between england and scotland but have heard of it between scots themselves! Whats wrong with people, honestly.
It makes me sad. Before all this started there was the usual friendly banter now its getting a little over the top. I cant wait for it to be over to be honest getting a little fed up with it.
For anyone reading this I hope it all turns out bonnie for everyone, regardless of your position. xx"
And you know who to blame... Salmond he's divided a nation he's divided families and he's divided friends wether independence happens or dosent scotland is fucked coz of this horrible little man |
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"I havent seen any hatred on here, I have elsewhere though and not just between england and scotland but have heard of it between scots themselves! Whats wrong with people, honestly.
It makes me sad. Before all this started there was the usual friendly banter now its getting a little over the top. I cant wait for it to be over to be honest getting a little fed up with it.
For anyone reading this I hope it all turns out bonnie for everyone, regardless of your position. xx
And you know who to blame... Salmond he's divided a nation he's divided families and he's divided friends wether independence happens or dosent scotland is fucked coz of this horrible little man "
The SNP were voted in (twice) with a huge majority and everyone knew a referendum on independence was one of their major plans, therefore the SNP are giving the majority voters exactly what they voted for. |
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"Wow! I didn't realise just how much hatred there is on these forums for the scots
Very unnerving and frightening
Comments please  "
In all honesty I would say a lot of it is a counter reaction to smug remarks initially made there is always that sort of thing on here no matter what. If you think its bad now you want to see what it will be like if the yes vote goes through. |
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"What kind of people would invent haggis, toss cabers and dress in skirts?
the same ones that invented pneumatic tyres
Tarmac
Television
Telephones
Football
Golf etc etc"
Saw a stand up comedy routine on scottish inventions, they invented black and white televisions which they can keep, we've got colour ones now. |
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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago
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"Wow! I didn't realise just how much hatred there is on these forums for the scots
Very unnerving and frightening
Comments please "
Can you point us to the hatred that appears on this forum?
I don't see hatred, I see annoyance that 2,600,000 potentially are about to change the economic structure of a country of almost 70,000,000 |
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By *rixieswTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Wow! I didn't realise just how much hatred there is on these forums for the scots
Very unnerving and frightening
Comments please
Can you point us to the hatred that appears on this forum?
I don't see hatred, I see annoyance
that 2,600,000 potentially are about to change the economic structure of a country of almost 70,000,000"
I have to say when put like that it really strikes the point home. Sadly I think the Yes camp will win and mayhem will ensue. |
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"Wow! I didn't realise just how much hatred there is on these forums for the scots
Very unnerving and frightening
Comments please
Can you point us to the hatred that appears on this forum?
I don't see hatred, I see annoyance that 2,600,000 potentially are about to change the economic structure of a country of almost 70,000,000"
I agree with your point...but the problem is we are separate countries united.... |
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"Think people and everything else to do with Scottish independence is just going OTT"
Are you for real?
Alex Salmond is the vehicle that is close to ripping our country apart!
It's going to not only affect Scotland if it prevails, but the remaining parts of the Uk.
The damage that has been done by the NATS will take a long time to repair. I'm Scottish, but also proud to be British. I think this is one of the most damaging things to happen to our country. |
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"Think people and everything else to do with Scottish independence is just going OTT
Are you for real?
Alex Salmond is the vehicle that is close to ripping our country apart!
It's going to not only affect Scotland if it prevails, but the remaining parts of the Uk.
The damage that has been done by the NATS will take a long time to repair. I'm Scottish, but also proud to be British. I think this is one of the most damaging things to happen to our country."
Well said!! I am scared if this idiot of a man gets his way |
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Referendums are funny old things. They actually seem to generate more interest in politics than general elections. I wonder why that is.
I guess it's because they cross party divides and actually get people talking about things. Perhaps we should have more of them and get more people involved in politics again. The politicians would dread it because they would actually have something to discuss instead of drivel on about their own narrow brand of how things should be in the country. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Why shouldn't Scotland wish to run its own affairs and be independent?
Why can't Scotland chose its own path?
Since 1945, 142 countries have gained their independence and not one has asked to go back. |
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"Think people and everything else to do with Scottish independence is just going OTT
Are you for real?
Alex Salmond is the vehicle that is close to ripping our country apart!
It's going to not only affect Scotland if it prevails, but the remaining parts of the Uk.
The damage that has been done by the NATS will take a long time to repair. I'm Scottish, but also proud to be British. I think this is one of the most damaging things to happen to our country.
Well said!! I am scared if this idiot of a man gets his way"
You use the words, 'ripping our country apart'. How so, Scotland has been a country for centuries and not an appendage to London or England, its not a Shire and perhaps if it had been treated better it would not be having a referendum x |
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"Think people and everything else to do with Scottish independence is just going OTT
Are you for real?
Alex Salmond is the vehicle that is close to ripping our country apart!
It's going to not only affect Scotland if it prevails, but the remaining parts of the Uk.
The damage that has been done by the NATS will take a long time to repair. I'm Scottish, but also proud to be British. I think this is one of the most damaging things to happen to our country.
Well said!! I am scared if this idiot of a man gets his way"
He's a very canny politician though even if he has an idiotic idea. Respect to the guy, I bet he has a very very high IQ. |
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Independence......more like isolation
Splitting from UK would cause significant social unrest ......the current situation is not fair across the whole of UK.....there is too much wealth in and around London....and the wealth is held there by the big fish for their personal gain...why spend £15 billion on crossrail...and then at same time not fill pot holes in roads in rest if UK...its just selfish...London does not need a new airport... The capacity can be taken up by investing in other regional airports, why do many have to travel miles to get a flight from London....simple because that destination isn't available locally to them.........what is needed is a fairer distribution on the national wealth across the whole of UK...including Scotland........Hull gets £400 per capita to spend on infrastructure...
London gets £5000....
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"Think people and everything else to do with Scottish independence is just going OTT
Are you for real?
Alex Salmond is the vehicle that is close to ripping our country apart!
It's going to not only affect Scotland if it prevails, but the remaining parts of the Uk.
The damage that has been done by the NATS will take a long time to repair. I'm Scottish, but also proud to be British. I think this is one of the most damaging things to happen to our country."
So totally agree - my bloodline is English/Welsh/Irish, but I've always seen myself as British and have been proud of my country - which is all of Britain, including it's Scottish component.
Now somebody is trying to rip my country apart and I feel that I have no say in the matter... I'll never forgive the Scots if they break up my nation, and even if it's a "No" vote, then it will take years - lifetimes to heal the rift.
I'm already loosing old friends in Scotland over this, and business associates are telling me that they are already shutting trading links with Scotland, because they need lines of supply and a customer base that has future stability.
I totally support democracy - but this is a small minority having a huge and undemocratic impact on my nation - I feel so sad....
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"Think people and everything else to do with Scottish independence is just going OTT
Are you for real?
Alex Salmond is the vehicle that is close to ripping our country apart!
It's going to not only affect Scotland if it prevails, but the remaining parts of the Uk.
Well put
The damage that has been done by the NATS will take a long time to repair. I'm Scottish, but also proud to be British. I think this is one of the most damaging things to happen to our country.
So totally agree - my bloodline is English/Welsh/Irish, but I've always seen myself as British and have been proud of my country - which is all of Britain, including it's Scottish component.
Now somebody is trying to rip my country apart and I feel that I have no say in the matter... I'll never forgive the Scots if they break up my nation, and even if it's a "No" vote, then it will take years - lifetimes to heal the rift.
I'm already loosing old friends in Scotland over this, and business associates are telling me that they are already shutting trading links with Scotland, because they need lines of supply and a customer base that has future stability.
I totally support democracy - but this is a small minority having a huge and undemocratic impact on my nation - I feel so sad....
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About 5 or 6 years ago a small country not far from here nearly went bankrupt but for a huge bail out from the European central bank.
They now have huge unfinished housing estates and the bust which followed now means 10s of thousands of their bright and young have emigrated to NZ and Australia. There just isn't any work there. I suppose the ones left behind would say they are happy with their independence and it was a price worth paying.
Question is will Scotland follow them down that route or will their North sea oil be enough to keep them out of that particular bit of crap. Bit of a gamble isn't it.
One thing they do have in their favour is that all the instability in Russia and the middle East means that the price of Oil is likely only to go northwards. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Who hates the Scots, can't say I've really noticed much hatred. I adore my Scottish friends, such a shame when a race get ostracised because of fucking politics. Couldn't give a shit where someone's from, or what colour their skin is as long as they're nice people. Politics and religion have an uncanny knack of driving a wedge between nations. Fuck em, let's all just get on with real life and try to get on eh !!! |
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I love scotland, I love scottish people, spent almost half my life living in ayr.
All this about independance, I think scotland should have their independance, England is only worried because they wont have as much control
Scotland gets the short end of the stick alot of the time it isnt fair, they have to abide by things set out by england even when they dont want to.
Scotland is beautiful and I wish I could live there again
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"I love scotland, I love scottish people, spent almost half my life living in ayr.
All this about independance, I think scotland should have their independance, England is only worried because they wont have as much control
Scotland gets the short end of the stick alot of the time it isnt fair, they have to abide by things set out by england even when they dont want to.
Scotland is beautiful and I wish I could live there again
Miss Jay"
Need more ppl like you |
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"Independence......more like isolation
Splitting from UK would cause significant social unrest ......the current situation is not fair across the whole of UK.....there is too much wealth in and around London....and the wealth is held there by the big fish for their personal gain...why spend £15 billion on crossrail...and then at same time not fill pot holes in roads in rest if UK...its just selfish...London does not need a new airport... The capacity can be taken up by investing in other regional airports, why do many have to travel miles to get a flight from London....simple because that destination isn't available locally to them.........what is needed is a fairer distribution on the national wealth across the whole of UK...including Scotland........Hull gets £400 per capita to spend on infrastructure...
London gets £5000....
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"About 5 or 6 years ago a small country not far from here nearly went bankrupt but for a huge bail out from the European central bank.
They now have huge unfinished housing estates and the bust which followed now means 10s of thousands of their bright and young have emigrated to NZ and Australia. There just isn't any work there. I suppose the ones left behind would say they are happy with their independence and it was a price worth paying.
Question is will Scotland follow them down that route or will their North sea oil be enough to keep them out of that particular bit of crap. Bit of a gamble isn't it.
One thing they do have in their favour is that all the instability in Russia and the middle East means that the price of Oil is likely only to go northwards."
At the moment the oil price is at something like a two year low and is around $10 a barrel down in just over a month.
Methinks Mr Salmond needs to bash the old calculator again  |
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To the OP, I think that if you read the whole of the thread and the other Scott's independence threads around that time you will realise that 'the banned from fab post' was an attempt to inject some humour into a debate that has been quite bad tempered at times. Further if you read the whole debate over the last year or so you will also note that although there has been a hardening of opinion south of the border, this is a reaction to being continually told that what you say does not count and for the most part views from the south have been very calm and cautionary. The hate has been mainly in Scotland and aimed at Scotts.
Schisms (religious or political) are always nasty. |
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"To the OP, I think that if you read the whole of the thread and the other Scott's independence threads around that time you will realise that 'the banned from fab post' was an attempt to inject some humour into a debate that has been quite bad tempered at times. Further if you read the whole debate over the last year or so you will also note that although there has been a hardening of opinion south of the border, this is a reaction to being continually told that what you say does not count and for the most part views from the south have been very calm and cautionary. The hate has been mainly in Scotland and aimed at Scotts.
Schisms (religious or political) are always nasty. "
1966!!! |
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I think it's sad that this independence issue has got out of hand. There is no hatred between Scots and the English by the vast majority of people. There is always a small element of extremists that cause much angst throughout the world.
There is much disillusionment with politics at Westminster which seems to be run by a small so called silver spooned group of people who went to the same public school and university in all parties. They are not as bright or capable as they think they are and sadly we drift further and further away from a fair society based on a meritotocrity
It's nothing personal in relation to the English but I understand a strong desire for the Scots to have a polical system which is more representive of their needs and desires.
I am a unionist at heart and would prefer to give more powers to the Scottish parliament yet remain an integral part of the UK but I also see the other point of view.
Perhaps that's one of the reason I enjoy swinging. I've always been very open minded about most things.
Apologies for the rant. Jim |
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"To the OP, I think that if you read the whole of the thread and the other Scott's independence threads around that time you will realise that 'the banned from fab post' was an attempt to inject some humour into a debate that has been quite bad tempered at times. Further if you read the whole debate over the last year or so you will also note that although there has been a hardening of opinion south of the border, this is a reaction to being continually told that what you say does not count and for the most part views from the south have been very calm and cautionary. The hate has been mainly in Scotland and aimed at Scotts.
Schisms (religious or political) are always nasty.
1966!!!"
OK, one of my brothers was born...
England won the world cup...
cultural Revolution in china...
Me Lie massacre, Vietnam...
Watching B52's bomb N Vietnam on the news every night...
Star Trek!...
Cant remember anything Scottish, but only 9/10 at the time so please help. |
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"Really no need to pick up our pieces thanks we can manage quite well on our own ????
With what currency? If you keep the pound...and I would be happy to see it either way...then you will SIMPLY NOT be independent. Bank of ENGLAND will set your interest rates.
RBS and several other major companies have already said they will up sticks and move HQ to England if vote goes yes.
I think the decision is entirely up to Scotland. I don't have an opinion either way. But a yes vote will certainly leave Scotland in the shit! But hey....it will be their shit!"
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"Wow! I didn't realise just how much hatred there is on these forums for the scots
Very unnerving and frightening
Comments please "
I wouldn't say hatred but I would say there is less give than their was after some of the threads put up by Scottish members over the last 12 months. A single man complaining or a male cheater will get far more aggregation towards them by far. |
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"Just out of curiosity op since your from Scotland why did you choose to post this here and not on the Scottish forum? "
Because of what I thought was an innocent post of clocks turning back in the open forums |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Op it's just like a messy divorce. Once the subject is open both sides are looking for a way of mitigating the grief by pouring out anger and resentment.
If we stay together let's make it for the right reasons not just for the children. Whichever way it goes let's stay friends and pick on the French together |
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"Op it's just like a messy divorce. Once the subject is open both sides are looking for a way of mitigating the grief by pouring out anger and resentment.
If we stay together let's make it for the right reasons not just for the children. Whichever way it goes let's stay friends and pick on the French together "
Well said. J |
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"Op it's just like a messy divorce. Once the subject is open both sides are looking for a way of mitigating the grief by pouring out anger and resentment.
If we stay together let's make it for the right reasons not just for the children. Whichever way it goes let's stay friends and pick on the French together "
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"Op it's just like a messy divorce. Once the subject is open both sides are looking for a way of mitigating the grief by pouring out anger and resentment.
If we stay together let's make it for the right reasons not just for the children. Whichever way it goes let's stay friends and pick on the French together
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Lol I did already comment on such a forum bout water bombing the French instead |
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"Think people and everything else to do with Scottish independence is just going OTT
Are you for real?
Alex Salmond is the vehicle that is close to ripping our country apart!
It's going to not only affect Scotland if it prevails, but the remaining parts of the Uk.
The damage that has been done by the NATS will take a long time to repair. I'm Scottish, but also proud to be British. I think this is one of the most damaging things to happen to our country.
Well said!! I am scared if this idiot of a man gets his way
You use the words, 'ripping our country apart'. How so, Scotland has been a country for centuries and not an appendage to London or England, its not a Shire and perhaps if it had been treated better it would not be having a referendum x"
I'm talking about ripping Britain apart....never mentioned ripping Scotland apart......I love living in Scotland, but as part of Britain |
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"I thought it was the Scots who hated the English.
They must do if they want to destroy the United Kingdom,wierd"
No hatred here. It isn't about destroying the United Kingdom. It's about allowing a country to stand on its own, without interference from Westminster. I think a lot of Northern Counties wouldn't mind joining us if it were possible. |
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over a year ago
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"I don't hate the Scots. If I did i'd be hating my own relatives and heritage! Do hope it's a No at the referendum. X"
Equally I don't hate the English as my mother was born there and 3/4 of my family but I'm scottish and it a yes vote from me |
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By *abrina59TV/TS
over a year ago
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Dont really think it matters stay united & tories or labour govts both f*ck the the uk
Go independent tories will rule uk & f*ck uk & labour will rule scotland f*ck Scotland
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Wow! I didn't realise just how much hatred there is on these forums for the scots
Very unnerving and frightening
Comments please "
No hatred from my side of things..just disinterest now  |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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for the amount of blame westminster seems to get for scotlands woes you would kinda forget that scotland has its own parliament that decided scottish issues at a local level..... or do all those msp's just tiddle their thumbs and blame everything on "down south".....
I wouldn't mind so much.. but statistically only half of them (50%) bothered to turn out for their own election last time round.... |
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"for the amount of blame westminster seems to get for scotlands woes you would kinda forget that scotland has its own parliament that decided scottish issues at a local level..... or do all those msp's just tiddle their thumbs and blame everything on "down south".....
I wouldn't mind so much.. but statistically only half of them (50%) bothered to turn out for their own election last time round.... "
I can confirm that. MSPs pretty much twiddle there thumbs. Certainly since Eck got his majority, virtually nothing has been done ..... Everything he's promising he could have started...he didn't.... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I thought it was the Scots who hated the English.
They must do if they want to destroy the United Kingdom,wierd
No hatred here. It isn't about destroying the United Kingdom. It's about allowing a country to stand on its own, without interference from Westminster. I think a lot of Northern Counties wouldn't mind joining us if it were possible. "
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By (user no longer on site)
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Must say I admire salmond because he seems a lone scot against all the Westminster public school types who are in a panic, they wait 307 years and decide on more powers 10 days ! To go .
The Scottish people are inventive educated and respected world wide (wish we were).
I hope my fellow english people accept the result with grace. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Must say I admire salmond because he seems a lone scot against all the Westminster public school types who are in a panic, they wait 307 years and decide on more powers 10 days ! To go .
The Scottish people are inventive educated and respected world wide (wish we were).
I hope my fellow english people accept the result with grace."
Well said hun x
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I don't hate the Scots.
I even dated one once.
The problem is the way the debate has been conducted and the manner in which Alex Salmond has conducted himself.
He comes across, to me at least, as a racist. So Anti-English.
I don't like the fact that, for a decision that will affect 64 million citizens in the United Kingdom, only around 5 million get to make the decision - That seems rather undemocratic to me.
It turns out now, that islanders on Shetland and Orkney - who can't stand the bloke - want to remain part of the United Kingdom and want nothing to do with an independent Scotland.
Is Mr Salmond prepared to allow them their right for self determination?
Not on your life!
And the coverage and the campaigning has just gone on and on and on to the point where I am utterly, utterly sick of it!
Initially I wanted the Scots to vote 'No' - but now I'm of the opinion 'Let them go'
In my opinion Alex Salmond has created a bigger divide that the late, great Margaret Thatcher did in her entire tenure as Prime Minister.
I reckon that the last time that there was such a divide between the Scots and the English was around 307 years ago when the Union was first formed.
Wake me up when September Ends!
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