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Drivers of fab what would it take for you to ditch the car?
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Living where I do, the car is an essential. There are places I cannot get to via public transport even though they are only 10 - 15 miles away."
So if the powers that be put on more buses say one every 15 mins to your destinations would you get rid and use it?  |
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By *adybee77Woman
over a year ago
MAMOBA, miles and miles of bugger all (Aberdeenshire) |
"Living where I do, the car is an essential. There are places I cannot get to via public transport even though they are only 10 - 15 miles away.
So if the powers that be put on more buses say one every 15 mins to your destinations would you get rid and use it? "
No, because buses would cause more pollution than my car does. It would be underused service routes, that only likely require a few people to travel most days... I live in a rural area, and cover a large territory with work.
However, when I am in a city, I am happy to use buses, and often use the train when I need to go south. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Living where I do, the car is an essential. There are places I cannot get to via public transport even though they are only 10 - 15 miles away.
So if the powers that be put on more buses say one every 15 mins to your destinations would you get rid and use it?
No, because buses would cause more pollution than my car does. It would be underused service routes, that only likely require a few people to travel most days... I live in a rural area, and cover a large territory with work.
However, when I am in a city, I am happy to use buses, and often use the train when I need to go south."
Lol so they are electric buses powered by sunlight still no? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I need mine for work, so probably a career change then I could bike commute."
Ohhh you don't want a bike you only have to read threads on here there are mad bastards out there in Audi's after every cyclist. |
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By *adybee77Woman
over a year ago
MAMOBA, miles and miles of bugger all (Aberdeenshire) |
"Living where I do, the car is an essential. There are places I cannot get to via public transport even though they are only 10 - 15 miles away.
So if the powers that be put on more buses say one every 15 mins to your destinations would you get rid and use it?
No, because buses would cause more pollution than my car does. It would be underused service routes, that only likely require a few people to travel most days... I live in a rural area, and cover a large territory with work.
However, when I am in a city, I am happy to use buses, and often use the train when I need to go south.
Lol so they are electric buses powered by sunlight still no? "
If they went where I needed to go, when I needed to get there, and back in the same vein, then yes I would use public transport. The likelyhood of that ever happening up here is probably about the same as me being crowned the next queen |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Living where I do, the car is an essential. There are places I cannot get to via public transport even though they are only 10 - 15 miles away.
So if the powers that be put on more buses say one every 15 mins to your destinations would you get rid and use it?
No, because buses would cause more pollution than my car does. It would be underused service routes, that only likely require a few people to travel most days... I live in a rural area, and cover a large territory with work.
However, when I am in a city, I am happy to use buses, and often use the train when I need to go south.
Lol so they are electric buses powered by sunlight still no?
If they went where I needed to go, when I needed to get there, and back in the same vein, then yes I would use public transport. The likelyhood of that ever happening up here is probably about the same as me being crowned the next queen"
It got me wondering what would happen when the oil runs out.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I need mine for work, so probably a career change then I could bike commute.
Ohhh you don't want a bike you only have to read threads on here there are mad bastards out there in Audi's after every cyclist. "
Already have one my friend. Plus have met Mr Audi and Mr BMW a couple of times. They have a nice game called......how close can I get my wing mirrors!! |
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By *heOwlMan
over a year ago
Altrincham |
Nothing, I already cycle to most places, including the commute to work. My car is pretty economical (between 50 to 60 mph using petrol) and only gets used for shopping and traveling longish distances. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Public transport in Stoke is too expensive, unreliable, inconvenient to ever considering getting rid of the car.
Before she gave up her bus travel, Mrs N would have to use 3 buses and 2 hours to get to work 12 miles away and then do the same at night. Worse if one of those were late or didn't turn up.
And the government say our public transport networks are great and work HA! Pitiful. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"What would someone have to offer or change in the current system for you to say “you know what its going” ?"
Public transport would have to be at least 5 times better and less than half of what it costs me to drive and would have to add less than 30% on journey times and even then we would be reluctant to give up both cars. |
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I don't drive, but jay does, the downside to public transport is you can't always get to where you want. Example Northampton is 50 miles from me but because of the route it would take 3 he's on the train.
We do try and use public transport when we can as jay doesn't like driving.
Where he lives there is one bus a week that goes to the next town.
Also to get to some places via train the cost is ridiculous |
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By *quirrelMan
over a year ago
East Manchester |
Taxi fares reduced by 50%, seriously though, public transport is private companies making big bucks off their passengers and never being frequent enough or running exactly where you want them to.
Also if a route doesn't make a profit then its going to be cut, so no guarantee that if I got rid of the car I could rely on the bus.
Manchester extended their tram system to my side of the city and cut bus services to force people to use it, but to get to my parents house which is 4 miles away I have to get a bus to the tram stop and then a tram into Manchester and then out again to my parents, which makes it a 5 times longer journey. The system is like the spokes of a wheel everything has to go to the hub (manchester) and back out again so it costs extra both in time and money. Will stick with the car thanks. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I need mine for work, so probably a career change then I could bike commute.
Ohhh you don't want a bike you only have to read threads on here there are mad bastards out there in Audi's after every cyclist. "
You miss the point , in a car /van you can get to the job direct...busses tend to stop for everyone every 45 seconds and they are full of window lickers |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I need mine for work, so probably a career change then I could bike commute.
Ohhh you don't want a bike you only have to read threads on here there are mad bastards out there in Audi's after every cyclist. You miss the point , in a car /van you can get to the job direct...busses tend to stop for everyone every 45 seconds and they are full of window lickers "
Do people really lick windows in buses?  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I need mine for work, so probably a career change then I could bike commute.
Ohhh you don't want a bike you only have to read threads on here there are mad bastards out there in Audi's after every cyclist. You miss the point , in a car /van you can get to the job direct...busses tend to stop for everyone every 45 seconds and they are full of window lickers
Do people really lick windows in buses? "
last time on a bus two lads around 15 sat in front of us,they seen a group of lads on pavement and one of the lads forcefully spat at the window which rebounded and caught me ...he licked the window well with the side of his face with my hand round his neck,now thats public transport and you can keep it |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I need mine for work, so probably a career change then I could bike commute.
Ohhh you don't want a bike you only have to read threads on here there are mad bastards out there in Audi's after every cyclist. You miss the point , in a car /van you can get to the job direct...busses tend to stop for everyone every 45 seconds and they are full of window lickers
Do people really lick windows in buses? last time on a bus two lads around 15 sat in front of us,they seen a group of lads on pavement and one of the lads forcefully spat at the window which rebounded and caught me ...he licked the window well with the side of his face with my hand round his neck,now thats public transport and you can keep it"
Wow you battered a 15 yr old?  |
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
Over the rainbow, under the bridge |
It would take me an hour and a half to get to work and the same back. Possibly more. That's another 3+ hours on a working day. Instead of the 30 mins it takes me now.
Also with the arthritis in my knees and the fact that I often have to carry heavy bags of work home, ditching the car is an absolute no. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'm a self confessed petrol head I love driving
However I gave up owning a car 4 years ago as I'm not able to afford to run one.
I can and do walk to work daily, but have the use of work vehicles in working hours for business purposes |
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I don't own a car - no need for one in my daily life. I can commute to work & back via bike, get around the local area & even do my shopping by bike.
MJ on the other hand needs her car as she works across the other side of Manchester, although it is possible for her to use public transport to get there and back its a longer day.
All in all its a sad indictment of our car-centric society when the alternatives to fuel-guzzling, wasteful cars have been so woefully under resourced and non-car users have been sidelined and restricted. |
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In the job i do i need a van to carry all my tools to and from each job, there is no way i could carry everything i need about on any kind of public transport.
Besides having the van i have a car for leisure time, but i would only give that up if public transport was free to use, and buses and trains were more frequent. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I need mine for work, so probably a career change then I could bike commute.
Ohhh you don't want a bike you only have to read threads on here there are mad bastards out there in Audi's after every cyclist. You miss the point , in a car /van you can get to the job direct...busses tend to stop for everyone every 45 seconds and they are full of window lickers
Do people really lick windows in buses? last time on a bus two lads around 15 sat in front of us,they seen a group of lads on pavement and one of the lads forcefully spat at the window which rebounded and caught me ...he licked the window well with the side of his face with my hand round his neck,now thats public transport and you can keep it
Wow you battered a 15 yr old? "
Wiped his own spit off the window with his face...hardly battered him Einstein ,tho you would have just sat there with the rest of the plebs no doubt |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Not a lot for me I get public transport to work as its cheaper and quicker than driving and parking I don't know why more don't use it rather than driving into cities. |
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"Not a lot for me I get public transport to work as its cheaper and quicker than driving and parking I don't know why more don't use it rather than driving into cities."
 although it really does depend on where you live Vs where you work. |
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It got me wondering what would happen when the oil runs out. "
There will be a lot more to worry about than vehicle fuel when the oil runs out....
People tend to forget that oil is used in many manufacturing processes. We can replace fuel with veg oil, ethanol and electricity. It's things like high temperature lubricants, certain plastics that will be harder to replace... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I have to say, NOTHING in this universe would make me ditch my car(s).
All 310bhp gets used regularly & I couldn't give a toss about the ozone layer, way I see it, I'm ensuring warmer weather for future generations! Lol |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"A Tesla S car electric all the way"
as i am an eco hippy this is the first thing on my lottery wish list.... although the more interesting car may well be the model x... if it is truely affordable with a decent range as they say... this could finally be the gamechanger |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Not a lot for me I get public transport to work as its cheaper and quicker than driving and parking I don't know why more don't use it rather than driving into cities.
although it really does depend on where you live Vs where you work. "
Very true as I work 15 miles from work and I've two jobs so need a car |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"A Tesla S car electric all the way
as i am an eco hippy this is the first thing on my lottery wish list.... although the more interesting car may well be the model x... if it is truely affordable with a decent range as they say... this could finally be the gamechanger"
Seconded.
I fucking love classic cars and Aston Martins but even if I won a Euro Millions rollover I'd get myself a Tesla.
It's they way forward. |
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By *heOwlMan
over a year ago
Altrincham |
"A Tesla S car electric all the way
as i am an eco hippy this is the first thing on my lottery wish list.... although the more interesting car may well be the model x... if it is truely affordable with a decent range as they say... this could finally be the gamechanger
Seconded.
I fucking love classic cars and Aston Martins but even if I won a Euro Millions rollover I'd get myself a Tesla.
It's they way forward."
At the moment I feel that it would be better using a really economical petrol car that an electric one as the latter constantly needs charging. Ok so charging may not seem an issue, but where is that electricity coming from? Currently most of it comes from generators burning some form of fuel. So even maki g the assumption that all the electicity generated makes it to the car battery all one is diong is moving the emission generator from the car to the power station. Of, course one then has to factor in the power loss in the power station and during transmission, which apparently can be up to 65% and suddenly an electric car really isnt such a good idea afterall.
Now if we were all using renewable, local electricity sources, well then the electic car starts to make sence (well ignoring the battery itself). |
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"What would someone have to offer or change in the current system for you to say “you know what its going” ?"
A reliable, convenient and cost effective public transport system.
What are the chances?
Fill her up please |
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I would need to not play the drums anymore... I mostly use my Pushbike for getting to work, and the motorbike for going farther quicker. Unfortunately I really need to drive my car to move the drums about. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"A Tesla S car electric all the way
as i am an eco hippy this is the first thing on my lottery wish list.... although the more interesting car may well be the model x... if it is truely affordable with a decent range as they say... this could finally be the gamechanger
Seconded.
I fucking love classic cars and Aston Martins but even if I won a Euro Millions rollover I'd get myself a Tesla.
It's they way forward.
At the moment I feel that it would be better using a really economical petrol car that an electric one as the latter constantly needs charging. Ok so charging may not seem an issue, but where is that electricity coming from? Currently most of it comes from generators burning some form of fuel. So even maki g the assumption that all the electicity generated makes it to the car battery all one is diong is moving the emission generator from the car to the power station. Of, course one then has to factor in the power loss in the power station and during transmission, which apparently can be up to 65% and suddenly an electric car really isnt such a good idea afterall.
Now if we were all using renewable, local electricity sources, well then the electic car starts to make sence (well ignoring the battery itself)."
the thing that is bringing people towards the tesla is they are saying you can get up to 300 miles on one charge (most people are saying "real world" between 225-250 miles) so it then becomes a possibilty because range angst doesnt then factor in......
also tesla are being smart because they are going to invest in "supercharging" points all over the country (which means you are going to be able to sit somewhere for 20 minutes and recharge half the battery... so no more inconvienient that popping into a service station)
the problem at the moment as they only have two of these in the country at the moment... both in london... so I couldn't do newcastle-london, but the plan in the next year is to have 30 across the country spaced out on major motorway routes... once that happens it then becomes an option |
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The manufacturing of the car battery is an extremely toxic process and very environmentally unfriendly.
From build to recycling a Prius is more damaging to the environment than something like a Discovery...
So I will stick to my Land Rovers with the knowledge that I am doing more good for the planet than a smug yoghurt knitting tree hugger in their electric go cart.... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The manufacturing of the car battery is an extremely toxic process and very environmentally unfriendly.
From build to recycling a Prius is more damaging to the environment than something like a Discovery...
So I will stick to my Land Rovers with the knowledge that I am doing more good for the planet than a smug yoghurt knitting tree hugger in their electric go cart...."
Me too. My land rover is very Eco friendly. I haven't driven it in 18 months. Haha. It's in bits. Hehe. It's true about the battery thing. Making the batteries for 1 hybrid causes as much environmental damage as running a high CO2 output car for 15 years. |
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which is where I'd be if that happened 