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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
Over the rainbow, under the bridge |
It was in the news today that 50% of those in a survey who had done it hadn't even bothered to donate a single penny to charity.
It's just become one of those daft fads which hit Facebook regularly and the whole point of it has been lost by many. Which is a shame. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It was in the news today that 50% of those in a survey who had done it hadn't even bothered to donate a single penny to charity.
It's just become one of those daft fads which hit Facebook regularly and the whole point of it has been lost by many. Which is a shame. "
Silver lining though - 50% HAVE donated, which is hopefully more than before this "challenge" started. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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MND donations up from 1.9m in August 13, to 21m in August 14!!
I'd say its working!
Wish people would remember the real cause here, kinda upset at seeing people doing it for cancer charities etc... i' say cancer has enough awareness.. MND is largely unheard of in the UK, I know I knew nothing about it until it ripped my family apart! |
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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago
Titz Towers, North Notts |
I've not and won't because I think it has gone from being a good cause to being fashionable.
I'd much rather do good by stealth, rather than publically blazing it over facebook for everyone to see.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I've done it. I donated to the cancer charity in error first as I just copied the number posted. I then donated to the correct charity shortly after.
All harmless fun. |
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
Over the rainbow, under the bridge |
"But the other 50% that have donated have raised over £2,000,000 which is an outstanding achievement  "
It's keeping it up that's the hard work. It is positive that so much has been donated. I just find the 'hey look at me' posts of those who don't donate which are all over social media leave a very nasty taste in my mouth.
These are the same kind of people who think clicking 'like' on any post asking for support for good causes makes them genuinely empathetic. It means they don't ACTUALLY have to do anything as long as they are SEEN to be doing it.
There are plenty of people who do charitable work or who donate regularly and who don't make a big production about it - and they are the ones who make a difference every single day. |
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
Over the rainbow, under the bridge |
"I've not and won't because I think it has gone from being a good cause to being fashionable.
I'd much rather do good by stealth, rather than publically blazing it over facebook for everyone to see. "
Exactly how I feel. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I've been nominated but have no intention to throw good clean water over myself. It's not a charity I support as this unfortunate disease has no cure whereas other life threatening diseases do have cures and I'd prefer to use my money on an illness that actually can be cured and will give a person a chance to live longer such as cancer or similar. It's unfortunate for those who have it but no amount of money in the world is gonna take it away from a person suffering with it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Iv been nominated and said no as I get ice cold pissing rain on me half the year at work as it is.
However I do have a direct debit for battersea dogs home and have run marathons for cancer research in the past along with 8months doing animal conservation in the rainforest |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I done it yesterday. 2 buckets but big ones and someone rang my phone just as the second bucket was thrown over me so I had to re do it :0( so I done three buckets all together  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I've been nominated but have no intention to throw good clean water over myself. It's not a charity I support as this unfortunate disease has no cure whereas other life threatening diseases do have cures and I'd prefer to use my money on an illness that actually can be cured and will give a person a chance to live longer such as cancer or similar. It's unfortunate for those who have it but no amount of money in the world is gonna take it away from a person suffering with it. "
What about money to help research to find a cure.
It's entirely your choice what charities to give to but your reason for not donating to this one seem a bit daft. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I done it yesterday and donated to MND. My friends Dad was diagnosed with it a couple of years ago, there's not nearly enough awareness about it. Even if the people doing it don't donate they are at least helping raise the awareness. It might well be a fad but at least its a positive one for a change |
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
Over the rainbow, under the bridge |
"ironic i know, but has anyone done it and donated to water aid ??
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Strangely enough there was a bit of a debate about this on fb the other day. About how some people thought it was obscene when so many suffer from lack of clean water. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I've been nominated but have no intention to throw good clean water over myself. It's not a charity I support as this unfortunate disease has no cure whereas other life threatening diseases do have cures and I'd prefer to use my money on an illness that actually can be cured and will give a person a chance to live longer such as cancer or similar. It's unfortunate for those who have it but no amount of money in the world is gonna take it away from a person suffering with it.
What about money to help research to find a cure.
It's entirely your choice what charities to give to but your reason for not donating to this one seem a bit daft. "
Like you said, my choice...where my money goes is also my choice. The amount of people with motor neurones is only a fraction to other diseases. I feel the bigger threat gets my attention. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"ironic i know, but has anyone done it and donated to water aid ??
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If you watch Matt Damons video he explains about the challenge and the waste of water argument. He is a founder of a charity that supplies clean water to people who have none.
He still does the challenge which sort of poo poos the wasting water argument that some people are trying to put forward. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I've been nominated but have no intention to throw good clean water over myself. It's not a charity I support as this unfortunate disease has no cure whereas other life threatening diseases do have cures and I'd prefer to use my money on an illness that actually can be cured and will give a person a chance to live longer such as cancer or similar. It's unfortunate for those who have it but no amount of money in the world is gonna take it away from a person suffering with it. "
Have you considered that the reason there is no cure is because they lack funds to research a cure
Not so long ago people were dying of many diseases that can now be treated and cured because people have been funded to research and find cures |
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
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"ironic i know, but has anyone done it and donated to water aid ??
If you watch Matt Damons video he explains about the challenge and the waste of water argument. He is a founder of a charity that supplies clean water to people who have none.
He still does the challenge which sort of poo poos the wasting water argument that some people are trying to put forward. "
Perhaps one celebrity does. I just repeated what other people were putting forward as an argument. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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ALS in the states received funding of $27m dollars last year so they're far from struggling.
The Ice Bucket challenge wasn't started by ALS or MND for that matter and isn't run or coordinated by them. It was one challenge in the states for a guy called Pete Frates and just kept growing and growing from there. The challenge supposedly originated in New Zealand where people donated to whichever charity they want so this isn't 'for' MND.
I donated to MDN and Macmillan as they both do amazing work and the fact that money to find cures for both these diseases has to come from the public is nothing short of a disgrace! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"ironic i know, but has anyone done it and donated to water aid ??
If you watch Matt Damons video he explains about the challenge and the waste of water argument. He is a founder of a charity that supplies clean water to people who have none.
He still does the challenge which sort of poo poos the wasting water argument that some people are trying to put forward.
Perhaps one celebrity does. I just repeated what other people were putting forward as an argument. "
And again hopefully by people raising the issue of people not having clean water will raise awareness and funds for those charities. Which is basically what Matt Damon said and demonstrated in his video.
He did the challenge to a backdrop of a poster promoting his water charity. |
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"ALS in the states received funding of $27m dollars last year so they're far from struggling.
The Ice Bucket challenge wasn't started by ALS or MND for that matter and isn't run or coordinated by them. It was one challenge in the states for a guy called Pete Frates and just kept growing and growing from there. The challenge supposedly originated in New Zealand where people donated to whichever charity they want so this isn't 'for' MND.
I donated to MDN and Macmillan as they both do amazing work and the fact that money to find cures for both these diseases has to come from the public is nothing short of a disgrace!"
Where else would it come from? Government funding ultimately comes from our taxes doesn't it? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"ironic i know, but has anyone done it and donated to water aid ??
Strangely enough there was a bit of a debate about this on fb the other day. About how some people thought it was obscene when so many suffer from lack of clean water. "
We have Full sympathy for anyone with any illness/ disease - MND although incurable, is managable to help create a better quality of life.... unfortunately people with no clean ice cold water dont have any choice.
There are other ways to raise money for any charity without rubbing it in the face of others who are suffering and although its gone global and great fun for those doing it.
Just imagine being thirsty, dying of thirst and then watching people throw water over thier heads for fun........
Raising money for any worthy charity is worth it and by whatever means possible, if it saves one life .... its worth it.
But throwing ice cold water away?
Hope all those who participate do it for the right reasons and donate...... instead of 15 minutes of fame on You Tube or Facebook.
We will donate without wasting water |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"ironic i know, but has anyone done it and donated to water aid ??
Strangely enough there was a bit of a debate about this on fb the other day. About how some people thought it was obscene when so many suffer from lack of clean water.
We have Full sympathy for anyone with any illness/ disease - MND although incurable, is managable to help create a better quality of life.... unfortunately people with no clean ice cold water dont have any choice.
There are other ways to raise money for any charity without rubbing it in the face of others who are suffering and although its gone global and great fun for those doing it.
Just imagine being thirsty, dying of thirst and then watching people throw water over thier heads for fun........
Raising money for any worthy charity is worth it and by whatever means possible, if it saves one life .... its worth it.
But throwing ice cold water away?
Hope all those who participate do it for the right reasons and donate...... instead of 15 minutes of fame on You Tube or Facebook.
We will donate without wasting water"
Just out of interest how many buckets of water does it take to fill a hot tub ? |
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"ironic i know, but has anyone done it and donated to water aid ??
Strangely enough there was a bit of a debate about this on fb the other day. About how some people thought it was obscene when so many suffer from lack of clean water.
We have Full sympathy for anyone with any illness/ disease - MND although incurable, is managable to help create a better quality of life.... unfortunately people with no clean ice cold water dont have any choice.
There are other ways to raise money for any charity without rubbing it in the face of others who are suffering and although its gone global and great fun for those doing it.
Just imagine being thirsty, dying of thirst and then watching people throw water over thier heads for fun........
Raising money for any worthy charity is worth it and by whatever means possible, if it saves one life .... its worth it.
But throwing ice cold water away?
Hope all those who participate do it for the right reasons and donate...... instead of 15 minutes of fame on You Tube or Facebook.
We will donate without wasting water
Just out of interest how many buckets of water does it take to fill a hot tub ?"
Boom!!!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"ironic i know, but has anyone done it and donated to water aid ??
Strangely enough there was a bit of a debate about this on fb the other day. About how some people thought it was obscene when so many suffer from lack of clean water.
We have Full sympathy for anyone with any illness/ disease - MND although incurable, is managable to help create a better quality of life.... unfortunately people with no clean ice cold water dont have any choice.
There are other ways to raise money for any charity without rubbing it in the face of others who are suffering and although its gone global and great fun for those doing it.
Just imagine being thirsty, dying of thirst and then watching people throw water over thier heads for fun........
Raising money for any worthy charity is worth it and by whatever means possible, if it saves one life .... its worth it.
But throwing ice cold water away?
Hope all those who participate do it for the right reasons and donate...... instead of 15 minutes of fame on You Tube or Facebook.
We will donate without wasting water
Just out of interest how many buckets of water does it take to fill a hot tub ?"
dont know - we dont have a hot tub ...... our photo's are in a hotel swimming pool |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"ironic i know, but has anyone done it and donated to water aid ??
Strangely enough there was a bit of a debate about this on fb the other day. About how some people thought it was obscene when so many suffer from lack of clean water.
We have Full sympathy for anyone with any illness/ disease - MND although incurable, is managable to help create a better quality of life.... unfortunately people with no clean ice cold water dont have any choice.
There are other ways to raise money for any charity without rubbing it in the face of others who are suffering and although its gone global and great fun for those doing it.
Just imagine being thirsty, dying of thirst and then watching people throw water over thier heads for fun........
Raising money for any worthy charity is worth it and by whatever means possible, if it saves one life .... its worth it.
But throwing ice cold water away?
Hope all those who participate do it for the right reasons and donate...... instead of 15 minutes of fame on You Tube or Facebook.
We will donate without wasting water
Just out of interest how many buckets of water does it take to fill a hot tub ?
dont know - we dont have a hot tub ...... our photo's are in a hotel swimming pool"
A rather decadent way of using water when people don't even have enough to drink , don't you think ?
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By (user no longer on site)
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"ironic i know, but has anyone done it and donated to water aid ??
Strangely enough there was a bit of a debate about this on fb the other day. About how some people thought it was obscene when so many suffer from lack of clean water.
We have Full sympathy for anyone with any illness/ disease - MND although incurable, is managable to help create a better quality of life.... unfortunately people with no clean ice cold water dont have any choice.
There are other ways to raise money for any charity without rubbing it in the face of others who are suffering and although its gone global and great fun for those doing it.
Just imagine being thirsty, dying of thirst and then watching people throw water over thier heads for fun........
Raising money for any worthy charity is worth it and by whatever means possible, if it saves one life .... its worth it.
But throwing ice cold water away?
Hope all those who participate do it for the right reasons and donate...... instead of 15 minutes of fame on You Tube or Facebook.
We will donate without wasting water
Just out of interest how many buckets of water does it take to fill a hot tub ?
dont know - we dont have a hot tub ...... our photo's are in a hotel swimming pool"
There is definately a picture of someone in a jacuzzi bath  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Meh, can't I just donate without throwing some water over my head?
I'm lazy and boring (yep, check me out ladies).
Besides, ice is for my drink. "
You can do whatever you choose Libs.
Participating isn't compulsory nor is donating. |
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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago
Titz Towers, North Notts |
I've had two nominations since this I commented on this thread and none before. This could be karma. However, I have pointed out, I don't follow fads, I set them. They have yet to come back at me, pointing out that I am a nincompoop, but I suspect they have just had early nights. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"ironic i know, but has anyone done it and donated to water aid ??
Strangely enough there was a bit of a debate about this on fb the other day. About how some people thought it was obscene when so many suffer from lack of clean water.
We have Full sympathy for anyone with any illness/ disease - MND although incurable, is managable to help create a better quality of life.... unfortunately people with no clean ice cold water dont have any choice.
There are other ways to raise money for any charity without rubbing it in the face of others who are suffering and although its gone global and great fun for those doing it.
Just imagine being thirsty, dying of thirst and then watching people throw water over thier heads for fun........
Raising money for any worthy charity is worth it and by whatever means possible, if it saves one life .... its worth it.
But throwing ice cold water away?
Hope all those who participate do it for the right reasons and donate...... instead of 15 minutes of fame on You Tube or Facebook.
We will donate without wasting water
Just out of interest how many buckets of water does it take to fill a hot tub ?
dont know - we dont have a hot tub ...... our photo's are in a hotel swimming pool
There is definately a picture of someone in a jacuzzi bath "
Yep - a picture of BOTH of us - The "jaccuzi" is not a bath, its a bubble pool (its air blown though tubes into water), adjoined to the main swimming pool. The water is recirculated - not wasted |
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By (user no longer on site)
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My mistake its a normal bathtub not a jacuzzi one,I didn't look closely enough
Still uses over 80 litres of water to fill compared with 40 litres to have a shower  |
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"ironic i know, but has anyone done it and donated to water aid ??
Strangely enough there was a bit of a debate about this on fb the other day. About how some people thought it was obscene when so many suffer from lack of clean water.
We have Full sympathy for anyone with any illness/ disease - MND although incurable, is managable to help create a better quality of life.... unfortunately people with no clean ice cold water dont have any choice.
There are other ways to raise money for any charity without rubbing it in the face of others who are suffering and although its gone global and great fun for those doing it.
Just imagine being thirsty, dying of thirst and then watching people throw water over thier heads for fun........
Raising money for any worthy charity is worth it and by whatever means possible, if it saves one life .... its worth it.
But throwing ice cold water away?
Hope all those who participate do it for the right reasons and donate...... instead of 15 minutes of fame on You Tube or Facebook.
We will donate without wasting water
Just out of interest how many buckets of water does it take to fill a hot tub ?
dont know - we dont have a hot tub ...... our photo's are in a hotel swimming pool
There is definately a picture of someone in a jacuzzi bath
Yep - a picture of BOTH of us - The "jaccuzi" is not a bath, its a bubble pool (its air blown though tubes into water), adjoined to the main swimming pool. The water is recirculated - not wasted"
Can you not see the irony of moaning about wasting one bucket of water because there are people without a drop yet there are pics of you frolicking in gallons of water for fun? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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God some people are such moaning Minnie! ! It's a bit of fun to raise awareness for charity! ! And as usual there are people having a good ole moan!! I know let's all live in poverty and not waste a drop of water because another country can't get its shit together and sort out its water problems!! |
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Its mostly narcissism masked as altruism and anyone that is considering doing this should read this:
Daisy Welford-Ranson
?#?icebucketchallenge?
My dad has just been nominated. Whereas I've had to keep my mouth shut in other circumstances, I just explained to him what this challenge actually means.
Do you know what your money is paying for?
It's paying for animals to be tortured. It's paying for mice to have holes drilled into their heads and be infected with agonising and fatal diseases. It's paying for primates to be injected into their spines with agonising and fatal diseases. Did you know that 92 of every 100 drugs that show positive reactions in animals do not in humans? Flip reverse that and think how many cures we are missing because they don't show positively in animal tests. The only reason we carry on testing on animals while there are more effective ways to research (mass spectrometry, genome mapping, innovative imaging techniques and highly developed computer models capable of simulating parts of the human body as mathematical equations and three-dimensional graphical models, just to name a few) is because of MONEY.
The ALS Association, who are benefitting from this challenge, has only produced TWELVE positive drug reactions in animals in the last DECADE. Only one of which has gone on to help humans (a minor drug to ease some side effects). They have been given £48million just this last month to put into torturing countless more animals.
Not only this, but how awful that in a world, where we are closer to fighting over water than oil and 3400000 humans die every year because they don't have access to clean water, we are busy throwing it over our heads to avoid donating a full sum of money to charity. If everyone that has partaken in this challenge had donated a couple of quid to provide clean water to these people instead of wasting it, 260000 homes would be provided with water (from the source that I read stats from- can't find a confirmation of this info).
Please think before donating. Compassionate Care ALS provide holistic resources and care for sufferers and their families.
Alternatively you could search humaneseal.org to find charities that do not use animal research to donate to.
(^_^)/ let's care for all; not just for some.
***adding this interesting comment from the OP thread-
" Not only are ALS an awful so called 'non-profit' their management are also extremely well paid too. over 50% of the 24 million they raised in 2013 went to their staff wages. The head CEO earns $339k a year.
http://healthimpactnews.com/2014/als-ice-bucket-challenge-do-you-know-what-you-are-supporting |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Im glad I did it
Im glad I donated
Im glad its raised awareness
Im glad the money can be used to research cures or slow down the progression of this devastating disease
Im glad that everyone is talking about it
I refuse to allow the people who put a downer on it take that gladness away
One thing is certain though,just as some non religious people suddenly begin to pray when they are in a life threatening situation,anyone diagnosed with MND will be wishing for unlimited funds to try and get a cure before it kills them
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"Im glad I did it
Im glad I donated
Im glad its raised awareness
Im glad the money can be used to research cures or slow down the progression of this devastating disease
Im glad that everyone is talking about it
I refuse to allow the people who put a downer on it take that gladness away
One thing is certain though,just as some non religious people suddenly begin to pray when they are in a life threatening situation,anyone diagnosed with MND will be wishing for unlimited funds to try and get a cure before it kills them
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So you are glad that many animals including our closest animal relatives are being pointlessly tortured to find a cure and that 50% of all the donations go to staff wages?
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By (user no longer on site)
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For those of you worried about animal experiments the ALS/MND charities have a compassionate care charity page you can donate to. All this money just goes towards care for those with this illness. Nothing goes towards research.
I will PM a link to anyone who wants it. |
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"For those of you worried about animal experiments the ALS/MND charities have a compassionate care charity page you can donate to. All this money just goes towards care for those with this illness. Nothing goes towards research.
I will PM a link to anyone who wants it. "
Surprising how many people don't know this. Pm me anyway |
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"Im glad I did it
Im glad I donated
Im glad its raised awareness
Im glad the money can be used to research cures or slow down the progression of this devastating disease
Im glad that everyone is talking about it
I refuse to allow the people who put a downer on it take that gladness away
One thing is certain though,just as some non religious people suddenly begin to pray when they are in a life threatening situation,anyone diagnosed with MND will be wishing for unlimited funds to try and get a cure before it kills them
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Couldn't have put it a better myself! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"For those of you worried about animal experiments the ALS/MND charities have a compassionate care charity page you can donate to. All this money just goes towards care for those with this illness. Nothing goes towards research.
I will PM a link to anyone who wants it. "
Now that is more like it although It's a shame that hardly anyone knows about it.
I also salute those who did it for Macmillan who also provide an invaluable care service |
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"Im glad I did it
Im glad I donated
Im glad its raised awareness
Im glad the money can be used to research cures or slow down the progression of this devastating disease
Im glad that everyone is talking about it
I refuse to allow the people who put a downer on it take that gladness away
One thing is certain though,just as some non religious people suddenly begin to pray when they are in a life threatening situation,anyone diagnosed with MND will be wishing for unlimited funds to try and get a cure before it kills them
So you are glad that many animals including our closest animal relatives are being pointlessly tortured to find a cure and that 50% of all the donations go to staff wages?
T"
It's not about being glad about it. It's a sad fact that most of our major medical breakthroughs over the years have been discovered this way. And frankly, I personally find the idea of watching my friend watch his Father wither away to a helpless shell, and his Mother loosing the only love of her life, and his nephew not getting a chance to know the Grandfather he wanted to be, a much bigger and more heartbreaking tragedy. I would never hurt an animal intentionally but until there are other, more viable ways to come up with these treatments then I believe it's a necessary evil. Not for cosmetic testing but for treatments that could one day stop any awful life threatening debilitating disease in it's tracks.
Of course everyone is entitled to their opinion, but while you're laying into people about their choice to do what they can, when they can because they choose too, think about how far you'd be willing to go and what you'd be willing to do for a someone you love, be it friend, lover, family or child.
As for your arguement that ALS use money raised by funding for salaries, so does every charity. The retail shops are the worst for it. Generally the charity itself will only see 10 to 20 pence of every £1 spent in one due to salaries and overheads. Which is much more than the 50% you're complaining about in this instance. Would you stand in these shops and tell manager, who's paid a salary, that they're a disgrace for accepting that wage? Or accept that that is their way of doing their bit to help??
I'm absolutely glad I done it.
I'm absolutely glad I donated.
And I will do again. |
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"Im glad I did it
Im glad I donated
Im glad its raised awareness
Im glad the money can be used to research cures or slow down the progression of this devastating disease
Im glad that everyone is talking about it
I refuse to allow the people who put a downer on it take that gladness away
One thing is certain though,just as some non religious people suddenly begin to pray when they are in a life threatening situation,anyone diagnosed with MND will be wishing for unlimited funds to try and get a cure before it kills them
So you are glad that many animals including our closest animal relatives are being pointlessly tortured to find a cure and that 50% of all the donations go to staff wages?
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50% of a shit load of donations is better than 50% of nothing through. |
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