FabSwingers.com > Forums > The Lounge > Wtf has been going on in Rotherham?

Wtf has been going on in Rotherham?

Jump to: Newest in thread

By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Best not answer that.

Of course, it won't be any fault of the authorities, oh no's.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

What?

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-28939089

Rotherham child abuse scandal

1400 children exploited according to reports

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

seems to be happening all the time.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *otsoSnowWhiteWoman over a year ago

My Ice Castle! South Wales

Those poor children.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Rotherhams a right dump! Smells vile and just is horrible place to be

Glad i dont go often!!

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *icefellatwoMan over a year ago

hastings

"Rotherhams a right dump! Smells vile and just is horrible place to be

Glad i dont go often!!"

unfortunatly there are nice people who live there as well

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Rotherhams a right dump! Smells vile and just is horrible place to be

Glad i dont go often!!"

yes I can imagine.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"Rotherhams a right dump! Smells vile and just is horrible place to be

Glad i dont go often!!

unfortunatly there are nice people who live there as well"

Yes there are but this thread is about the over 1000 children who have been sexually compromised there in recent years.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

By the reports I heard on the radio the police and authorities have a lot to answer for.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Ar theres nice people everywhere in world good and bad areas. But i hate rotherham ha its just something about it! Best thing about it is pet shop there lol.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"Ar theres nice people everywhere in world good and bad areas. But i hate rotherham ha its just something about it! Best thing about it is pet shop there lol. "

Have a look at the news

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I didnt no about this at all with kids and that!! Sounds bloody terrible whatever has gone on

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yet another news story I'm going to have to avoid reading about.

It's a bastard world.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"By the reports I heard on the radio the police and authorities have a lot to answer for. "

That's whats so annoying.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *uttyjonnMan over a year ago

SEA

Obviously this will develop but I see the council leader has resigned - depending on comes out they should look at criminal proceedings

Already seeing worrying words

fears of being labelled "racist"

"offering an unreserved apology" sorry too late

'Lessons must be learned' what again

I just cannot believe this stuff still goes on nowadays - sickening

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Obviously this will develop but I see the council leader has resigned - depending on comes out they should look at criminal proceedings

Already seeing worrying words

fears of being labelled "racist"

"offering an unreserved apology" sorry too late

'Lessons must be learned' what again

I just cannot believe this stuff still goes on nowadays - sickening "
Pakistani men again...RECURRING FEATURE

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Completely sickening and totally unacceptable

I can't and won't ever grasp how grown adults who knew what was going on brushed the claims aside as they were scared of being called racist?

Hope the shame of doing nothing makes their lives hell

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

A terrible terrible story.. my heart goes out to all those kids that had their childhood taken away by such barbaric and selfish brutality.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *iewMan over a year ago
Forum Mod

Angus & Findhorn

it is truly awful for those poor girls.

may they get the support & help for the future.

and justice

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

And swansea are going to hammer them tonight in football

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If what is being said that authorities were running scared of the PC brigade and failed to act due to being seen as racist is true then I am actually lost for words.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"And swansea are going to hammer them tonight in football

"
EVERY CLOUD AND ALL THAT

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *onnie and JohnCouple over a year ago

WILTSHIRE

http://www.rotherham.gov.uk/downloads/file/1407/independent_inquiry_cse_in_rotherham

link to report..

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

One young girl said that gang rape was a normal part of growing up

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"it is truly awful for those poor girls.

may they get the support & help for the future.

and justice

"
This country is fucked , there is now no such thing as justice

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *onnie and JohnCouple over a year ago

WILTSHIRE

stop jumping to conclusions and read the full report..not sky news.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"it is truly awful for those poor girls.

may they get the support & help for the future.

and justice

This country is fucked , there is now no such thing as justice"

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Obviously this will develop but I see the council leader has resigned - depending on comes out they should look at criminal proceedings

Already seeing worrying words

fears of being labelled "racist"

"offering an unreserved apology" sorry too late

'Lessons must be learned' what again

I just cannot believe this stuff still goes on nowadays - sickening Pakistani men again...RECURRING FEATURE "

Pedophiia isn't a trait of one particular race. But what is worrying is that these particular cases were swept under the cariet because of the attackers race. That is unacceptable.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *iewMan over a year ago
Forum Mod

Angus & Findhorn

"it is truly awful for those poor girls.

may they get the support & help for the future.

and justice

This country is fucked , there is now no such thing as justice"

are there not men in jail, charge the rest and punish them

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If what is being said that authorities were running scared of the PC brigade and failed to act due to being seen as racist is true then I am actually lost for words.

Im shocked but not that surprised.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yes, but folk will continue buy the food use the taxi, visit the restaurants and reply to them in here.1400 Children and that will be a low estimate.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"it is truly awful for those poor girls.

may they get the support & help for the future.

and justice

This country is fucked , there is now no such thing as justice

are there not men in jail, charge the rest and punish them"
And thier sentence will be?.....maybe a slap on the wrist as usual,no wonder they keep doing it.

In Asia its acceptable to marry and start families with young teen girls,whoever is responsible for letting men get away with it in this country needs castrating as well as the cunts that practice it

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *uttyjonnMan over a year ago

SEA

"In two of the cases we read, fathers tracked down their daughters and tried to remove them from houses where they were being abused, only to be arrested themselves when police were called to the scene"

"One child who was being prepared to give evidence received a text saying the

perpetrator had her younger sister and the choice of what happened next was up to her. "

my oh my

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *iewMan over a year ago
Forum Mod

Angus & Findhorn

"Yes, but folk will continue buy the food use the taxi, visit the restaurants and reply to them in here.1400 Children and that will be a low estimate."

and why not, it is a very, very small percentage.

I don't boycott white restaurants because of Ian Huntley and his like...

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Yes, but folk will continue buy the food use the taxi, visit the restaurants and reply to them in here.1400 Children and that will be a low estimate."

What on earth are you on about ?

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *inaTitzTV/TS over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

"Yes, but folk will continue buy the food use the taxi, visit the restaurants and reply to them in here.1400 Children and that will be a low estimate."

WTF?

Why on earth would anyone want to boycott a load of innocent people just because there are some bad eggs? Should the next step be them wearing green stars on their jackets so we can avoid any dealings?

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Yes, but folk will continue buy the food use the taxi, visit the restaurants and reply to them in here.1400 Children and that will be a low estimate."

Do you sit there smirking as you post utter trash?

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Yes, but folk will continue buy the food use the taxi, visit the restaurants and reply to them in here.1400 Children and that will be a low estimate.

and why not, it is a very, very small percentage.

I don't boycott white restaurants because of Ian Huntley and his like..."

Should we have stopped sending children to school because all caretakers are the same ?

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *iewMan over a year ago
Forum Mod

Angus & Findhorn

"it is truly awful for those poor girls.

may they get the support & help for the future.

and justice

This country is fucked , there is now no such thing as justice

are there not men in jail, charge the rest and punish themAnd thier sentence will be?.....maybe a slap on the wrist as usual,no wonder they keep doing it.

In Asia its acceptable to marry and start families with young teen girls,whoever is responsible for letting men get away with it in this country needs castrating as well as the cunts that practice it "

punish them all the same... the colour of the skin should not determine anything.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Yes, but folk will continue buy the food use the taxi, visit the restaurants and reply to them in here.1400 Children and that will be a low estimate.

What on earth are you on about ?"

i was thinking that too, if i call taxi and a Pakistan taxi driver pulled up in not going to refuse to get in because of what other people of his nationality have done

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *onnie and JohnCouple over a year ago

WILTSHIRE

"stop jumping to conclusions and read the full report..not sky news."

hi all stop talking shit and read the report..time to close this thread I think. download from here

http://www.rotherham.gov.uk/downloads/file/1407/independent_inquiry_cse_in_rotherham

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Yes, but folk will continue buy the food use the taxi, visit the restaurants and reply to them in here.1400 Children and that will be a low estimate."
We were castigating the men that have done this and im sure not all will turn out to be of Asian origin and certainly wont interfere with our fortnightly kebab and taxis into Newcastle,Big Asian community here in the city but no child sex ring scandal as such fingers crossed

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Why is it time to close the thread?

People want to discuss

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"Yes, but folk will continue buy the food use the taxi, visit the restaurants and reply to them in here.1400 Children and that will be a low estimate."

I truly cant believe you typed that

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *iewMan over a year ago
Forum Mod

Angus & Findhorn

"Yes, but folk will continue buy the food use the taxi, visit the restaurants and reply to them in here.1400 Children and that will be a low estimate.

I truly cant believe you typed that

she said very similar on the Jihadi thread

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Im sure there was something like this in donny last year aswell! NOt on same scale tho but it needs sorting cus it will be happening in a few places probably!

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"Yes, but folk will continue buy the food use the taxi, visit the restaurants and reply to them in here.1400 Children and that will be a low estimate.

I truly cant believe you typed that

she said very similar on the Jihadi thread"

Oh dear.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Rotherhams a right dump! Smells vile and just is horrible place to be

Glad i dont go often!!"

Oi! I live there. Yeah some places are rough but so are places in Sheffield.

Depends where you live.

The nightlife, if you can call it that, is shite now. Too many chav bars/clubs.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Yes, but folk will continue buy the food use the taxi, visit the restaurants and reply to them in here.1400 Children and that will be a low estimate."

What are you on about, either sadly naive or looking for attention?

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The local authorities all over the UK need to pull their figure out. They're here to uphold justice. If they can't do that in fear of being called racist or to be politically correct, especially where there is clear evidence of abuse - they'd be failing everybody and not just children.

And those with all these random kebab and cab comments. Grow up will you. You're all meant to be adults here. If you can't relate your statement (whatever it may be) to the actual event itself, stop trying to cause a stir. You're just making a fool out of yourself.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *onbons_xxMan over a year ago

Bolton

Wow, just wow.

I presume this thread's purpose isn't supposed to be hijacked with such expletive deleted but is about a wider debate on the somewhat incessant number of multi-agency cases which could and should have been avoided.

Whatever folk think of the anger and hurt felt for the victims, I can guarantee it's a small percentage in comparison to the hurt that will live forever by those who had suffered at the hands of such depraved behaviour.

Dickheads (sorry I try to avoid such vocab on the forums) exist everywhere, it doesn't seem to discriminate between race, colour or class. They even exist on forums.

Sad. That's all that I can think of right now but primarily for those that suffered.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"stop jumping to conclusions and read the full report..not sky news.

hi all stop talking shit and read the report..time to close this thread I think. download from here

http://www.rotherham.gov.uk/downloads/file/1407/independent_inquiry_cse_in_rotherham"

Rochdale , Oxford , Derby , Telford all have or have had the same problem no doubt there are other towns and cities

The police in Oxford said the same thing last year "we didn't want to appear racist "

It's not racist to investigate crime !

Why should a thread be closed because you don't like the _iews of other people

Oh yes you have read the full report

Maybe you don't have the open mind you think you have

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

bullshit they didn't investigate because of fears of being racist, this is just a front (and also helps the right wing party elected to date).

all organised crime is organised so that it won't be found out, using racism is an excuse for hiding what they organised, and also helps enforce right wing propaganda.

this stuff has been happening forever, and with white people, look at some of the tories being accused right now, don't even see any excuses for it not being investigated at all? oh it wasn't being investigated because the highest people in power organised it and made sure it wasn't investigated, end of. don't believe any bullshit excuse they come out with, they are organised criminals and trying to lay the blame on something other than themselves.

rant over.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *icked weaselCouple over a year ago

Near Edinburgh..

The police in Oxford said the same thing last year "we didn't want to appear racist "

The Police officers just don't feel Safe entering the primarily Dominant Asian and Muslim Community Areas of Most British Cities whilst investigating ANY Crime..

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The local authorities all over the UK need to pull their figure out. They're here to uphold justice. If they can't do that in fear of being called racist or to be politically correct, especially where there is clear evidence of abuse - they'd be failing everybody and not just children.

"
We did comment on both of those things,a lot of the drivers in Newcastle are Asian and the vast majority of fast food outlets are also Asian owned.

It was not meant to be taken as a derogatory comment as all are business owners in their own right and a little fun should not be taken out of context.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *uslaffMan over a year ago

manchester

"Rotherhams a right dump! Smells vile and just is horrible place to be

Glad i dont go often!!

unfortunatly there are nice people who live there as well

Yes there are but this thread is about the over 1000 children who have been sexually compromised there in recent years."

Compromised ?

I would suggest the poor mites have been more than endangered,they have been abused,violated and possibly destroyed.

Compromised doesn't come close and is a very crass verb choice.

Some people !

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"Rotherhams a right dump! Smells vile and just is horrible place to be

Glad i dont go often!!

unfortunatly there are nice people who live there as well

Yes there are but this thread is about the over 1000 children who have been sexually compromised there in recent years.

Compromised ?

I would suggest the poor mites have been more than endangered,they have been abused,violated and possibly destroyed.

Compromised doesn't come close and is a very crass verb choice.

Some people !"

and you are so concerned that all you can do is criticise somebodies choice of verb

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *iceduoCouple (FF) over a year ago

manchester

"One young girl said that gang rape was a normal part of growing up

It's about time watching rapist being hung becomes part of growing up. jen x

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *iewMan over a year ago
Forum Mod

Angus & Findhorn

"One young girl said that gang rape was a normal part of growing up

It's about time watching rapist being hung becomes part of growing up. jen x "

and what would watching someone being hung add to another person's growing up...

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"One young girl said that gang rape was a normal part of growing up

deeply saddening. I found the reporter saying that women they're helping now are saying that its going on still with 13 and 14 year olds....why aren't the authorities working with these women to find these girls? Why is it being talked about on national television but being ignored?

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Some of the comments on this thread have sickened me, there have been kids sexually abused by adults. The race , creed or colour of the perputraitors is irrelevant, they are just EVIL pure and simple.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"One young girl said that gang rape was a normal part of growing up

It's about time watching rapist being hung becomes part of growing up. jen x "

i wouldn't want my kids watching people being hanged even if it was legal, what kind of a parent would take their child to a hanging so it became normal to them

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *iceduoCouple (FF) over a year ago

manchester

"One young girl said that gang rape was a normal part of growing up

It's about time watching rapist being hung becomes part of growing up. jen x

and what would watching someone being hung add to another person's growing up..."

Men would be taught not to rape, they would learn through example. It would be a simple but effective lesson. Once a small minority of men got in in ther heads that rapeing some one wil result indeath, i believe the rape rate will reduce.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"One young girl said that gang rape was a normal part of growing up

It's about time watching rapist being hung becomes part of growing up. jen x

and what would watching someone being hung add to another person's growing up..."
Probably not to do what they done!

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"One young girl said that gang rape was a normal part of growing up

It's about time watching rapist being hung becomes part of growing up. jen x

and what would watching someone being hung add to another person's growing up...

I wouldn't want the majority of children witnessing executions to try and stop a minority of men and women carrying out despicable acts.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"One young girl said that gang rape was a normal part of growing up

It's about time watching rapist being hung becomes part of growing up. jen x

and what would watching someone being hung add to another person's growing up...

christ it gets worse

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"One young girl said that gang rape was a normal part of growing up

It's about time watching rapist being hung becomes part of growing up. jen x

and what would watching someone being hung add to another person's growing up...

execution is never simple

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"One young girl said that gang rape was a normal part of growing up

It's about time watching rapist being hung becomes part of growing up. jen x

and what would watching someone being hung add to another person's growing up...

execution is never simple

"
Works well for the good old US OF A

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *iewMan over a year ago
Forum Mod

Angus & Findhorn

"One young girl said that gang rape was a normal part of growing up

It's about time watching rapist being hung becomes part of growing up. jen x

and what would watching someone being hung add to another person's growing up...

and for the woman wrongly crying rape

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"One young girl said that gang rape was a normal part of growing up

It's about time watching rapist being hung becomes part of growing up. jen x

and what would watching someone being hung add to another person's growing up...

execution is never simple

Works well for the good old US OF A"

Does it?

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

....& the south Yorkshire police knew about it but kept quiet......... now, where have I heard that one before???

Hmmmmmmm, time for another 'robust', 'leaving no stone unturned', feet dragging, 30 year public inquiry, me thinks!!

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"One young girl said that gang rape was a normal part of growing up

It's about time watching rapist being hung becomes part of growing up. jen x

and what would watching someone being hung add to another person's growing up...

execution is never simple

Works well for the good old US OF A"

it works that well that in election year in the state of texas the rate of executions increase to secure more votes thats hardly justice.

I think we have imported enough crap from our amercian cousins lets not import every bit of shit they have

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"One young girl said that gang rape was a normal part of growing up

It's about time watching rapist being hung becomes part of growing up. jen x

and what would watching someone being hung add to another person's growing up...

execution is never simple

Works well for the good old US OF A

Does it?"
They still practice it and they are the largest most populated western country who oversee the world.

Now they use the death penalty but only in extreme cases(rape would not be one).

Im not sure of statistics but im sure there are a lot of murders committed in America so maybe it isnt much of a deterrent

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"One young girl said that gang rape was a normal part of growing up

It's about time watching rapist being hung becomes part of growing up. jen x

and what would watching someone being hung add to another person's growing up...

execution is never simple

Works well for the good old US OF A"

Yes, of course it does, in fact it works equally as well as the US gun laws!!

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"One young girl said that gang rape was a normal part of growing up

It's about time watching rapist being hung becomes part of growing up. jen x

and what would watching someone being hung add to another person's growing up...

execution is never simple

Works well for the good old US OF A

it works that well that in election year in the state of texas the rate of executions increase to secure more votes thats hardly justice.

I think we have imported enough crap from our amercian cousins lets not import every bit of shit they have

"
Did not say i wanted it bud

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"One young girl said that gang rape was a normal part of growing up

It's about time watching rapist being hung becomes part of growing up. jen x

and what would watching someone being hung add to another person's growing up...

execution is never simple

Works well for the good old US OF A

Does it?They still practice it and they are the largest most populated western country who oversee the world.

Now they use the death penalty but only in extreme cases(rape would not be one).

Im not sure of statistics but im sure there are a lot of murders committed in America so maybe it isnt much of a deterrent "

never has been and never will.be

in the same state that carries out the death penalty they also enforce the right to bear arms good old texas the home of george.w.bush

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"One young girl said that gang rape was a normal part of growing up

It's about time watching rapist being hung becomes part of growing up. jen x

and what would watching someone being hung add to another person's growing up...

execution is never simple

Works well for the good old US OF A

it works that well that in election year in the state of texas the rate of executions increase to secure more votes thats hardly justice.

I think we have imported enough crap from our amercian cousins lets not import every bit of shit they have

Did not say i wanted it bud

ok tex

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

I think rather than discussing what we do with the perpetrators our time would be better spent discussing how to stop it happening in the first place.

People keeping quiet about what they know. Can anyone here conceive of knowing that 13 year old girls were being raped and not shouting about it until someone took notice?

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"One young girl said that gang rape was a normal part of growing up

It's about time watching rapist being hung becomes part of growing up. jen x

and what would watching someone being hung add to another person's growing up...

have you not heard of death row? Its a part of prison where murderers and rapist waiting being executed in countries where the death sentence is legal

i think that's living proof that capital punishment does not stop crimes

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"stop jumping to conclusions and read the full report..not sky news.

hi all stop talking shit and read the report..time to close this thread I think. download from here

http://www.rotherham.gov.uk/downloads/file/1407/independent_inquiry_cse_in_rotherham

Rochdale , Oxford , Derby , Telford all have or have had the same problem no doubt there are other towns and cities

The police in Oxford said the same thing last year "we didn't want to appear racist "

It's not racist to investigate crime !

Why should a thread be closed because you don't like the _iews of other people

Oh yes you have read the full report

Maybe you don't have the open mind you think you have

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think rather than discussing what we do with the perpetrators our time would be better spent discussing how to stop it happening in the first place.

People keeping quiet about what they know. Can anyone here conceive of knowing that 13 year old girls were being raped and not shouting about it until someone took notice? "

Agreed xx not just a pretty face x

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *eavenNhellCouple over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

"One young girl said that gang rape was a normal part of growing up

i had experiance of this with my eldest daughter at aged thirteen ,she was going through a rebelious phase after finding out she wasnt mine ( thanks to her layabout sperm donor ). we didnt notice it at first she had new clothes wasnt hanging with her old freinds seemed to be going into manchester center a lot then she had a brand new phone when questioned her new "boyfreind " had given it too her so they could keep in touch he was called bobby and lived in bolton . she with drew further away from us and outside of school days our house became a place to change and then she would be gone sometimes all weekend usualy staying at her freind liannes . then one day liannes mum contacted me to ask where the girls were and did i know who her new boyfreind was as lianees sister ahd reportd she had bruises and marks on her back arms and thighs and she was concerned . my daugter came hoe that night and was confronted where opon we found out that the new "boyfriend " was infact twenty and yes they were sexualy active we asked had he ever hit her she said no but we could see marks on her wrists asked why she had r= then she said they had had a row after she didnt want sex and he had squeezed her arms to force her to perform oraly . at this point the police were called staments taken etc but she didnt know his real name or his address just that they met at the trafford center and would drive to a house in bolton . police did there best but said they could but could not charge as she refused to help them at all luckily for us the death of her grandmother seems to have jolted my daughter to her sens and she grew away from lianne and that circle of friends . unfortunatly for liannaes family it didnt go as well and there intervention caused her to run away regulay usualy being found at some flop house or other several days later the last time she vanished completely and wasnt located for five years where she was found working in a brothel in middlesboro for her "boyfriend" having beem paased around as a sex toy for years as she was now 18 and refused to cooperate there was nothing the police could do but offer counciling and rebhab .

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"I think rather than discussing what we do with the perpetrators our time would be better spent discussing how to stop it happening in the first place.

People keeping quiet about what they know. Can anyone here conceive of knowing that 13 year old girls were being raped and not shouting about it until someone took notice?

Agreed xx not just a pretty face x

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *onnie and JohnCouple over a year ago

WILTSHIRE

"stop jumping to conclusions and read the full report..not sky news."

hi all read the report.. download from here

http://www.rotherham.gov.uk/downloads/file/1407/independent_inquiry_cse_in_rotherham

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Oh my feelings on what the punishment should be for those who molest children are unashamedly draconian, and i believe would make torquemada smile. They shouldn't be witnessed, though..... Unless perhaps by the victims, if they so choose and are mentally and emotionally capable of witnessing. Public executions are a step too far.

And How did this descend into another 'let's bash and judge America' thread?

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"One young girl said that gang rape was a normal part of growing up

That's awful and I'm very sorry to read what happened.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"One young girl said that gang rape was a normal part of growing up

That's awful and I'm very sorry to read what happened.

sorry i had to read that 3 times

im glad for you and your family however its sad that her friend is now trapped in a cycle that she may never escape from.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *entaur_UKMan over a year ago

Cannock

"If what is being said that authorities were running scared of the PC brigade and failed to act due to being seen as racist is true then I am actually lost for words.

The PC brigade have a lot to answer for. It seems some people are just itching to throw the racist accusation around.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *uslaffMan over a year ago

manchester

"Rotherhams a right dump! Smells vile and just is horrible place to be

Glad i dont go often!!

unfortunatly there are nice people who live there as well

Yes there are but this thread is about the over 1000 children who have been sexually compromised there in recent years.

Compromised ?

I would suggest the poor mites have been more than endangered,they have been abused,violated and possibly destroyed.

Compromised doesn't come close and is a very crass verb choice.

Some people !

and you are so concerned that all you can do is criticise somebodies choice of verb

Ridiculous.

Are you that concerned you used the opportunity to appear intelligent and failed ?

Compromised ?

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Let me make this totally clear. I don't condone any form of child molestation, exploitation, adult rape/abuse etc etc.

But recently its staggering how much of this shit is coming to light what with Jimmy Saville, Rolf Harris etc and of course the horrible stuff in Rotherham.

This kind of behaviour is clearly not an isolated occurrence. Its widespread and is nothing new.

The Ancient Egyptians were well know for paedophilia and incest. Rape during war is still common place and prostitution rackets are still rife all over the world

Which begs the controversial question as to whether this kind of behaviour, which is generally considered abhorrent by most people, is actually just a part of the human condition and cant be stopped.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

[Removed by poster at 26/08/14 20:53:56]

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"Rotherhams a right dump! Smells vile and just is horrible place to be

Glad i dont go often!!

unfortunatly there are nice people who live there as well

Yes there are but this thread is about the over 1000 children who have been sexually compromised there in recent years.

Compromised ?

I would suggest the poor mites have been more than endangered,they have been abused,violated and possibly destroyed.

Compromised doesn't come close and is a very crass verb choice.

Some people !

and you are so concerned that all you can do is criticise somebodies choice of verb

Ridiculous.

Are you that concerned you used the opportunity to appear intelligent and failed ?

Compromised ?"

risible!

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"Let me make this totally clear. I don't condone any form of child molestation, exploitation, adult rape/abuse etc etc.

But recently its staggering how much of this shit is coming to light what with Jimmy Saville, Rolf Harris etc and of course the horrible stuff in Rotherham.

This kind of behaviour is clearly not an isolated occurrence. Its widespread and is nothing new.

The Ancient Egyptians were well know for paedophilia and incest. Rape during war is still common place and prostitution rackets are still rife all over the world

Which begs the controversial question as to whether this kind of behaviour, which is generally considered abhorrent by most people, is actually just a part of the human condition and cant be stopped."

I do think it can be stopped but that depends on everyone speaking up if they suspect something and those people being believed.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *inaTitzTV/TS over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

""stop jumping to conclusions and read the full report..not sky news."

hi all read the report.. download from here

http://www.rotherham.gov.uk/downloads/file/1407/independent_inquiry_cse_in_rotherham"

We may have heard you the previous 3 times.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *utzzCouple over a year ago

wrexham

Unfortunately the far right will feed off this and gain in strength. There will be increased racial tensions across Britain and more innocent people will be hurt. Those cowards who were afraid to speak up will have a lot more innocent lives ruined on their consciences before this dust settles on this one.

I hope I'm wrong.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *extoysareusCouple over a year ago

kinky heaven

"Unfortunately the far right will feed off this and gain in strength. There will be increased racial tensions across Britain and more innocent people will be hurt. Those cowards who were afraid to speak up will have a lot more innocent lives ruined on their consciences before this dust settles on this one.

I hope I'm wrong. "

Nothing like the systematic child abuse from care homes in the 70s and 80s with very influential people.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I hope I'm wrong.

Nothing like the systematic child abuse from care homes in the 70s and 80s with very influential people."

Yes, that was then this is now.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Let me make this totally clear. I don't condone any form of child molestation, exploitation, adult rape/abuse etc etc.

But recently its staggering how much of this shit is coming to light what with Jimmy Saville, Rolf Harris etc and of course the horrible stuff in Rotherham.

This kind of behaviour is clearly not an isolated occurrence. Its widespread and is nothing new.

The Ancient Egyptians were well know for paedophilia and incest. Rape during war is still common place and prostitution rackets are still rife all over the world

it can be stopped, many peadophiles don't actually commit any offences, they just have an attraction to children but don't act on it.so a peadophile might not even be a child rapist, even if he/she fantasizes about being one.

predators will not control their impulses, they are 100% selfish and only care to fulfil their own desires and don't care whether someone else wants to fulfil them or not (or is emotionally mature enough to be able to make that choice). it's debateable whether these type of people can control themselves, i personally think they could but choose not to because of their mindset of feeling no remorse.

dehumanisation of others is not an exclusive trait across all humans, doubt it's natural at all.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If what is being said that authorities were running scared of the PC brigade and failed to act due to being seen as racist is true then I am actually lost for words.

The PC brigade have a lot to answer for. It seems some people are just itching to throw the racist accusation around."

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Im sure there was something like this in donny last year aswell! NOt on same scale tho but it needs sorting cus it will be happening in a few places probably!

It happens in a lot of places

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Obviously this will develop but I see the council leader has resigned - depending on comes out they should look at criminal proceedings

Already seeing worrying words

fears of being labelled "racist"

"offering an unreserved apology" sorry too late

'Lessons must be learned' what again

I just cannot believe this stuff still goes on nowadays - sickening Pakistani men again...RECURRING FEATURE "

I think the Catholic Church disproves that. As does the 100s of non-Pakistanti convicted paedohiles.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"One young girl said that gang rape was a normal part of growing up

It's about time watching rapist being hung becomes part of growing up. jen x "

What would that achieve? justice and vengeance are very different things

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I hope I'm wrong. "

We had the EDL scum turn up in Stevenage earlier in the year after a muslim was arrested in connection with sex offences. Arrested not convicted. There have been several convictions within a 10 or 15 mile radius for similar offences and the EDL are nowhere. Hijacking paedophilia and turning it in to a religious issue is truly dispicable

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

I hope I'm wrong.

and disrespectful to the victims because it removes the attention from the actual crime

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"One young girl said that gang rape was a normal part of growing up

It's about time watching rapist being hung becomes part of growing up. jen x

and what would watching someone being hung add to another person's growing up...

don't want to piss on your fire but have you given any thought at all that some (where your idea ever happen) may well think 'well i'm going to hung for this so I may as well kill her after'??

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

WHEN THE FUCK is the government and a ranking judge going to start dishing out sentences for these sick and utter disgusting wankers.

In the last two years this country has been sneered with stories and cases on peodophiles, cover ups and molestation from celebrities and regular citizens. Seriously when is something actually doing to be done and a true example made?

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"WHEN THE FUCK is the government and a ranking judge going to start dishing out sentences for these sick and utter disgusting wankers.

When people stop attempting you dehumanise or shame the victims of crimes. Sexual assault of children is particularly heinous, yet we do all we can to minimize, discredit, and shame the victims just the same as we as a society in general seek to do to an adult victim. That enables the offenders more than any other single action can

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *he_original_poloWoman over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

"....& the south Yorkshire police knew about it but kept quiet......... now, where have I heard that one before???

Hmmmmmmm, time for another 'robust', 'leaving no stone unturned', feet dragging, 30 year public inquiry, me thinks!!"

This is only in the news again because there has been an enquiry.

I'm not sure why people are going on as if this is new news... it's far from being a newly uncovered secret.

I watched a documentary about it well over a year ago.

If you check on BBC news you will see related stories going back to 2012.

BBC Manchester November 2012 -

"Girls are still being abused in Rochdale despite nine men being convicted of running a child sex ring in the town, a health worker has said"

Why hasn't anyone just stopped it? Because it's complex. Because everyone needs to work together... including parents, rather than looking for someone to blame.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"One young girl said that gang rape was a normal part of growing up

It's about time watching rapist being hung becomes part of growing up. jen x

and what would watching someone being hung add to another person's growing up...

don't want to piss on your fire but have you given any thought at all that some (where your idea ever happen) may well think 'well i'm going to hung for this so I may as well kill her after'??

And then there is the offending rate in countries with the death sentence. It's proven to not be a detterent

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *entaur_UKMan over a year ago

Cannock

"WHEN THE FUCK is the government and a ranking judge going to start dishing out sentences for these sick and utter disgusting wankers.

I agree, trouble is when the authorities and the judges do pass down life sentences, as with Michael Adebalajo and Michael Adebowale in the Lee Rigby case, you then get the Politically correct brigade objecting and saying you can't give them a life sentence as its against their human rights, blah de blah, and all the other Bullshit they come out with. Forget about the victims it seems some PC liberals only care about the human rights of criminals and the scum of society.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Human righted brigade can scream all they want but if this government had any kind if back bone they would ignore them.

Never been so disgusted with this country

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *he_original_poloWoman over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

"WHEN THE FUCK is the government and a ranking judge going to start dishing out sentences for these sick and utter disgusting wankers.

I thought the challenge was against whole life sentences with no prospect of parole .... not life sentences.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *entaur_UKMan over a year ago

Cannock

"WHEN THE FUCK is the government and a ranking judge going to start dishing out sentences for these sick and utter disgusting wankers.

I thought the challenge was against whole life sentences with no prospect of parole .... not life sentences."

Thats what i meant when i said life sentence (should've been more specific)....i'm one of those people that believes when you get a life sentence in jail it really should mean life, you stay in jail until they wheel you out in a coffin.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *eavenNhellCouple over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

"One young girl said that gang rape was a normal part of growing up

That's awful and I'm very sorry to read what happened.

sorry i had to read that 3 times

im glad for you and your family however its sad that her friend is now trapped in a cycle that she may never escape from.

"
luckiley she is now getting a lot of help from the authoritys and family does still lapse but is working it through

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"WHEN THE FUCK is the government and a ranking judge going to start dishing out sentences for these sick and utter disgusting wankers.

Yes I agree and it seems that people who havnt had kids don't feel the same as people who have.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"WHEN THE FUCK is the government and a ranking judge going to start dishing out sentences for these sick and utter disgusting wankers.

Yes I agree and it seems that people who havnt had kids don't feel the same as people who have."

Does it? What makes you say that?

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Yes, but folk will continue buy the food use the taxi, visit the restaurants and reply to them in here.1400 Children and that will be a low estimate."

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *extoysareusCouple over a year ago

kinky heaven

"WHEN THE FUCK is the government and a ranking judge going to start dishing out sentences for these sick and utter disgusting wankers.

Yes I agree and it seems that people who havnt had kids don't feel the same as people who have."

Or a cliff Richard fan

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Let's take a leaf out of the NSPCC's book and do all we can to protect children, prevent abuse and transform society so it’s safer for all children.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *eraldthecatCouple over a year ago

Reading

Racist crap

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *eraldthecatCouple over a year ago

Reading

[Removed by poster at 26/08/14 22:51:50]

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Obviously this will develop but I see the council leader has resigned - depending on comes out they should look at criminal proceedings

Already seeing worrying words

fears of being labelled "racist"

"offering an unreserved apology" sorry too late

'Lessons must be learned' what again

I just cannot believe this stuff still goes on nowadays - sickening Pakistani men again...RECURRING FEATURE

I think the Catholic Church disproves that. As does the 100s of non-Pakistanti convicted paedohiles. "

This is systematic abuse , there is a race element to it as they were Pakistani men abusing other races and no action was taken by the local authority's or the police because of the a users race infact at times the abuse was covered up

It is not a new story but allegations are being made the abuse continues still it is also nation wide

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Obviously this will develop but I see the council leader has resigned - depending on comes out they should look at criminal proceedings

Already seeing worrying words

fears of being labelled "racist"

"offering an unreserved apology" sorry too late

'Lessons must be learned' what again

I just cannot believe this stuff still goes on nowadays - sickening Pakistani men again...RECURRING FEATURE

I think the Catholic Church disproves that. As does the 100s of non-Pakistanti convicted paedohiles.

It is not a new story but allegations are being made the abuse continues still it is also nation wide

It happens, the guys convicted played the racial harassment card when arrested and without firm proof early on the authorities backed off what fools they were. I see similar happening again with the issues with stop and search if we are not careful. There really needs to be a sensible solution to all this and stop artificial shields being used.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

I can imagine that some very senior cops and others have won awards, all the time whilst letting down these poor kids. Police heads should roll, any awards to chiefs cancelled alongside their pensions. It has been officially sanctioned nightmares of the highest order, totally disgusting. Junior staff were applauded for persistently raising the issue upwards but were suppressed - I hope there is shame at the top and action is taken immediately. It is unreal to think that this has happened and known about.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"....& the south Yorkshire police knew about it but kept quiet......... now, where have I heard that one before???

Hmmmmmmm, time for another 'robust', 'leaving no stone unturned', feet dragging, 30 year public inquiry, me thinks!!

This is only in the news again because there has been an enquiry.

I'm not sure why people are going on as if this is new news... it's far from being a newly uncovered secret.

I watched a documentary about it well over a year ago.

If you check on BBC news you will see related stories going back to 2012.

BBC Manchester November 2012 -

"Girls are still being abused in Rochdale despite nine men being convicted of running a child sex ring in the town, a health worker has said"

Why hasn't anyone just stopped it? Because it's complex. Because everyone needs to work together... including parents, rather than looking for someone to blame.

I was referring to the police. We'll see how many police are dismissed (if any) over this, or charged, etc - but we'll also see how swiftly it is done...........

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *imjohnCouple over a year ago

Clacton on sea, Essex

"Obviously this will develop but I see the council leader has resigned - depending on comes out they should look at criminal proceedings

Already seeing worrying words

fears of being labelled "racist"

"offering an unreserved apology" sorry too late

'Lessons must be learned' what again

I just cannot believe this stuff still goes on nowadays - sickening Pakistani men again...RECURRING FEATURE

Pedophiia isn't a trait of one particular race. But what is worrying is that these particular cases were swept under the cariet because of the attackers race. That is unacceptable. "

This is true as they are still covering up the Catholic churches wrong doings so its not a racist thing but more of a political one.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Obviously this will develop but I see the council leader has resigned - depending on comes out they should look at criminal proceedings

Already seeing worrying words

fears of being labelled "racist"

"offering an unreserved apology" sorry too late

'Lessons must be learned' what again

I just cannot believe this stuff still goes on nowadays - sickening Pakistani men again...RECURRING FEATURE

Pedophiia isn't a trait of one particular race. But what is worrying is that these particular cases were swept under the cariet because of the attackers race. That is unacceptable.

This is true as they are still covering up the Catholic churches wrong doings so its not a racist thing but more of a political one."

Absolutely 100% correct!

& love your profile pic 100% too!!

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *xpresMan over a year ago

Elland

To get an insight to the Horrors these girls have gone thru look out for a true biography called "Girl A" I read this book last year alot ofthe time thru teary eyes..

Girl A

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *xpresMan over a year ago

Elland

The care system is an Oxymoron

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The police "covered up reports" ........... Suppressed them!

Now there's something we haven't heard before! (Removes tongue from cheek)

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *xpresMan over a year ago

Elland

"The police "covered up reports" ........... Suppressed them!

Now there's something we haven't heard before! (Removes tongue from cheek)"

Not just the police this has been covered up from every angle so why do people only blame them....

People seem to forget these Asians who kidnapped groomed raped tortured abused . These girls not the police

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"The police "covered up reports" ........... Suppressed them!

Now there's something we haven't heard before! (Removes tongue from cheek)

Not just the police this has been covered up from every angle so why do people only blame them....

People seem to forget these Asians who kidnapped groomed raped tortured abused . These girls not the police "

The ultimate blame does lie with the perpetrator of any horrible act and I agree the crime itself and the victims are in danger of being overshadowed by the rush to blame the enablers.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Yes, but folk will continue buy the food use the taxi, visit the restaurants and reply to them in here.1400 Children and that will be a low estimate.

WTF?

That sounds like a good idea.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *onnie and JohnCouple over a year ago

WILTSHIRE

https://rotherhampolitics.wordpress.com/2013/09/25/rotherham-is-in-rotten-boroughs/

nice little read

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Im sorry but this racist card is played too often. Political correctness is the problem. Were all afraid to shout shoot the bastards because they are not white.

We are not even allowed to call a black person black anymore. They can call us what they like but we have to keep our mouths shut. How is this racist, its a fact.The word Black is not a put down or racist, its just a fact. These bastards were Pakistani,shooting would be too good for them.If they were white I would feel the same. Im sure the good people on this site could come up with a more fitting punishment. I know I could.

Mr Sexy Mum

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *eavenNhellCouple over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

"The police "covered up reports" ........... Suppressed them!

Now there's something we haven't heard before! (Removes tongue from cheek)"
hmmm South Yorkshire police in cover up now where have we heard this before ?

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *otlovefun42Couple over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

Are the Police, Rotherham social services, Rotherham's political leaders (I use that term very loosely) to blame? A resounding YES.

While the ultimate responsibility lies with the perpetrators that isn't the issue here. This is child abuse on an industrial scale that has been covered up for (at least) 16 years. All of the above knew what was happening and chose to do nothing for fear of upsetting the local Muslim community. Two previous reports were either ignored, suppressed, or both. Local Muslim leaders preferred to deflect responsibility rather than take action to out the so called "bad apples"

That is the real issue here. Child abuse has been around as long as mankind and sadly always will be, but on this scale, for this long, in one town, by members of one community is unprecedented.

As we have also seen in Rochdale, Oxford, and other towns and cities, this is the tip of a very large iceberg and it is time Muslim leaders accepted that there is a serious problem with some of their young men and took firm action. Police, Social Services, and other agency's need to bin the PC book and start doing what they are paid for, and politicians need to speak out without counting the potential votes won or lost.

Sadly I don't see that happening any time soon. Of course lessons will be learned, the most important ones being: Don't get caught, and cover your arse.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *xpresMan over a year ago

Elland

"The police "covered up reports" ........... Suppressed them!

Now there's something we haven't heard before! (Removes tongue from cheek)

Not just the police this has been covered up from every angle so why do people only blame them....

People seem to forget these Asians who kidnapped groomed raped tortured abused . These girls not the police

The ultimate blame does lie with the perpetrator of any horrible act and I agree the crime itself and the victims are in danger of being overshadowed by the rush to blame the enablers."

This is Country wide not one Town or City or county , the police are being blamed, when the blame lands firmly in The hands of these Asian men who rape beat and threaten death.The reasons the target young girls are

1 Muslim women stay virgins up till marriage

2 Non Muslims have "less morals"

3. Non Muslims drink alcohol

4 The girls raped were having family issues

5 The poor girls were drugged

6 The girls were just labled as liars

7 The Asain men said they were prostitutes

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *iewMan over a year ago
Forum Mod

Angus & Findhorn

what were the parents doing when this was going on...

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *xpresMan over a year ago

Elland

"what were the parents doing when this was going on... "

Most girls were in "care"

Blaming parents for the kids being raped.... Well done

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *otlovefun42Couple over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

"The police "covered up reports" ........... Suppressed them!

Now there's something we haven't heard before! (Removes tongue from cheek)

Not just the police this has been covered up from every angle so why do people only blame them....

People seem to forget these Asians who kidnapped groomed raped tortured abused . These girls not the police

The ultimate blame does lie with the perpetrator of any horrible act and I agree the crime itself and the victims are in danger of being overshadowed by the rush to blame the enablers.

1 Muslim women stay virgins up till marriage

2 Non Muslims have "less morals"

3. Non Muslims drink alcohol

4 The girls raped were having family issues

5 The poor girls were drugged

6 The girls were just labled as liars

7 The Asain men said they were prostitutes"

Or maybe they liked the idea of 72 virgins but were not too keen on the suicide vest.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *iewMan over a year ago
Forum Mod

Angus & Findhorn

"what were the parents doing when this was going on...

Most girls were in "care"

Blaming parents for the kids being raped.... Well done"

did I blame them?

maybe if they weren't in care & maybe if they had been in a loving home they may have been spared it.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I find it interesting that when celebrity sex offenders like Rolf Harris and Max Clifford have been discussed on here certain people have been hapoy to victim blame or question the credibility of evidence in historical cases, yet those same people are some of the most vocal critics of the perpetrators here. Why is that? Surely a paedophile is a paedophile?

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Obviously this will develop but I see the council leader has resigned - depending on comes out they should look at criminal proceedings

Already seeing worrying words

fears of being labelled "racist"

"offering an unreserved apology" sorry too late

'Lessons must be learned' what again

I just cannot believe this stuff still goes on nowadays - sickening Pakistani men again...RECURRING FEATURE "

Whats happened is an absolute disgrace and they should be punished, named and shamed and then have the key thrown away!!

But your comments like 'pakistani men again' dosent help ..

If your going to judge on that basis I take it all white male with a personality are paedophiles? Jimmy saville, rolf harris, gary glitter to name a few? Nope didnt think so, so be careful not to judge a few peoples disgusting actions to be of the same nature as everyone elses!!

Have a fab day!

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *icefellatwoMan over a year ago

hastings

"Im sorry but this racist card is played too often. Political correctness is the problem. Were all afraid to shout shoot the bastards because they are not white.

Mr Sexy Mum"

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I can't link it on my phone but there was an excellent article by Joseph Harker in the Guardian from July 2012 after the Rochdale convictions tgat makws some very valid points and is well worth a read.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"what were the parents doing when this was going on...

Most girls were in "care"

Blaming parents for the kids being raped.... Well done"

just listened to @BBCr4today Why did John Humphreys ask a child who was raped if there was anything she or her parents could have done to prevent it?

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *otlovefun42Couple over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

"Obviously this will develop but I see the council leader has resigned - depending on comes out they should look at criminal proceedings

Already seeing worrying words

fears of being labelled "racist"

"offering an unreserved apology" sorry too late

'Lessons must be learned' what again

I just cannot believe this stuff still goes on nowadays - sickening Pakistani men again...RECURRING FEATURE

Whats happened is an absolute disgrace and they should be punished, named and shamed and then have the key thrown away!!

But your comments like 'pakistani men again' dosent help ..

Have a fab day! "

But IT IS Pakistani men AGAIN.

Rochdale, Oxford, Blackpool, and Rotherham. All with pretty much the same MO.

Using Saville, Harris, and others as a way of deflecting blame helps no-one other than the next gang who will see it as an excuse or justification for their actions.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

All Nonces are disgusting. But what is unioque to these Pakistani men is that it is systamatically organised & they know that they are afforded protection through the authorities being scared of being called racist. Convictions are difficult. How they silence their victims is awful. They threaten the Parents with burning down their house & I've heard of being threatened with having their face shot off with a gun & one case of a girl who threatened to tell had her tongue nailed into a table. Of all the cases of child grooming by gangs, this is exclusively done by Pakistani on white girls. There are no cases of whites doing this to Pakistani girls. So drop the politically correct shit & lets be honest. All this happening because of another B.Liar legacy of wanting to turn Britain into a multi-cultural society & imposing political correctness upon us. *-

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *icefellatwoMan over a year ago

hastings

"All Nonces are disgusting. But what is unioque to these Pakistani men is that it is systamatically organised & they know that they are afforded protection through the authorities being scared of being called racist. Convictions are difficult. How they silence their victims is awful. They threaten the Parents with burning down their house & I've heard of being threatened with having their face shot off with a gun & one case of a girl who threatened to tell had her tongue nailed into a table. Of all the cases of child grooming by gangs, this is exclusively done by Pakistani on white girls. There are no cases of whites doing this to Pakistani girls. So drop the politically correct shit & lets be honest. All this happening because of another B.Liar legacy of wanting to turn Britain into a multi-cultural society & imposing political correctness upon us. *-"

Until the punishment fits the crime there is no deterrent to stop these morons .

The do gooders and the political correctness in our society today does not help!

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *irtydanMan over a year ago

Blackpool

well its happened in rochdale Blackpool now rotherham looks like a pattern to me

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *xpresMan over a year ago

Elland

"Obviously this will develop but I see the council leader has resigned - depending on comes out they should look at criminal proceedings

Already seeing worrying words

fears of being labelled "racist"

"offering an unreserved apology" sorry too late

'Lessons must be learned' what again

I just cannot believe this stuff still goes on nowadays - sickening Pakistani men again...RECURRING FEATURE

Whats happened is an absolute disgrace and they should be punished, named and shamed and then have the key thrown away!!

But your comments like 'pakistani men again' dosent help ..

Have a fab day!

But IT IS Pakistani men AGAIN.

Rochdale, Oxford, Blackpool, and Rotherham. All with pretty much the same MO.

Using Saville, Harris, and others as a way of deflecting blame helps no-one other than the next gang who will see it as an excuse or justification for their actions."

Deport them and ALL their families get this scum off our streets be it Pakistan or even bloody France I don't pearsonaly care what there background is

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Deport them and ALL their families get this scum off our streets be it Pakistan or even bloody France I don't pearsonaly care what there background is"

While I can understand the argument of deporting foreign nationals after they have commited a serious crime and in most cases I would probably support this but how do you deport someone who is British ?

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *xpresMan over a year ago

Elland

Deport them and ALL their families get this scum off our streets be it Pakistan or even bloody France I don't pearsonaly care what there background is

Send um to Wales??

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Deport them and ALL their families get this scum off our streets be it Pakistan or even bloody France I don't pearsonaly care what there background is

Send um to Wales??"

It would have to be a very serious crime for such a draconian sentence.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *xpresMan over a year ago

Elland

Deport them and ALL their families get this scum off our streets be it Pakistan or even bloody France I don't pearsonaly care what there background is

Send um to Wales??

It would have to be a very serious crime for such a draconian sentence. "

Was a joke but all seriousness if they are British Life behind bars in a normal prison in normal segregation so the other inmates can have the girls real justice

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Transportation of criminals is not as bad as pedophilia. Plus deport their immediate family & the problem would largely be eradicated. What doesn't work is Liberal judges & politically correct appeasing idiots who enable such crime to thrive.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Deport them and ALL their families get this scum off our streets be it Pakistan or even bloody France I don't pearsonaly care what there background is

Similarly wjy on earth deport entite families. What justification or logic is there for that?

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Transportation of criminals is not as bad as pedophilia. Plus deport their immediate family & the problem would largely be eradicated. What doesn't work is Liberal judges & politically correct appeasing idiots who enable such crime to thrive.

Send them back to sicily

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *xpresMan over a year ago

Elland

[Removed by poster at 27/08/14 13:04:00]

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *icketysplitsWoman over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

I haven't read through the thread as I think I can guess how this one went.

Rotherham, and other areas, have systematically failed children and young people - mostly girls and young women.

It's not just a failure of the authorities but of the families that have little care for their children, to social services overwhelmed and not taking the right actions right through to the police dismissing each case where the child was disbelieved!

Then there are the cruel, exploitative criminals (whatever nationality or ethnicity) who prey on the vulnerable and needy: children who crave attention and love.

The truly shocking thing about this is that it went on for so long (some 16 years) with everyone turning a blind eye.

The South Yorkshire Police and Crime Commissioner should resign. He was part of that chain in Rotherham turning a blind eye.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Deporting entire

families would be a positive thing. It would encourage law abiding compliance. Like the two Somali girls who went to join IS to join their Brother. Three kids all brought up not to integrate & to hate infidels. I would deport the family for bringing up scum, because the Parents are obviously scum as well.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *xpresMan over a year ago

Elland

Deport them and ALL their families get this scum off our streets be it Pakistan or even bloody France I don't pearsonaly care what there background is

Similarly wjy on earth deport entite families. What justification or logic is there for that? "

Justice for the girls some of whom were Only 11

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Deport them and ALL their families get this scum off our streets be it Pakistan or even bloody France I don't pearsonaly care what there background is

Similarly wjy on earth deport entite families. What justification or logic is there for that?

Justice for the girls some of whom were Only 11"

How would deporting someone who's only link to a crime is to be related to the perpetrator in anyway be considered justice?

And where do you drawer the line? Siblungs? Distant cousins?

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Deporting entire

How do you know so much about their family dtnamic?

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *icketysplitsWoman over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

Deport them and ALL their families get this scum off our streets be it Pakistan or even bloody France I don't pearsonaly care what there background is

Similarly wjy on earth deport entite families. What justification or logic is there for that?

Justice for the girls some of whom were Only 11"

Let's deport their parents. They abandoned their children to be able to wander the streets and be picked up by grooming gangs at 9 and 11.

Justice would be to ensure that we learn from their experiences, that we listen to children when they say this is happening to them, that we give a fuck when we see children wandering the streets on their own.

We don't universal parent anymore. People act like I am strange for pulling children up on their behaviour in public but I also check they are ok.

We all have to learn to give a fuck before it's a big press story. These children were ignored by their parents, social services, teachers, police. They were abandoned. Deport the lot of them then.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I haven't read through the thread as I think I can guess how this one went.

Rotherham, and other areas, have systematically failed children and young people - mostly girls and young women.

Then there are the cruel, exploitative criminals (whatever nationality or ethnicity) who prey on the vulnerable and needy: children who crave attention and love.

The truly shocking thing about this is that it went on for so long (some 16 years) with everyone turning a blind eye.

The South Yorkshire Police and Crime Commissioner should resign. He was part of that chain in Rotherham turning a blind eye.

Agreed.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *iewMan over a year ago
Forum Mod

Angus & Findhorn

These children were ignored by their parents, social services, teachers, police. They were abandoned.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

You can be sure if there were gangs of white men grooming underage Muslim girls then the streets would be red with blood. Hypocritical, disgusting scumbags.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *xpresMan over a year ago

Elland

Deport them and ALL their families get this scum off our streets be it Pakistan or even bloody France I don't pearsonaly care what there background is

Similarly wjy on earth deport entite families. What justification or logic is there for that?

Justice for the girls some of whom were Only 11

How would deporting someone who's only link to a crime is to be related to the perpetrator in anyway be considered justice?

And where do you drawer the line? Siblungs? Distant cousins?"

I'd deport the families cats dogs friends the whole shebang and I wouldn't think twice about it the animals preyed on young girls raped tortured used kidnapped beat abused these poor young innocent underage frightened unwanted unloved desperate Girls

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The police "covered up reports" ........... Suppressed them!

Now there's something we haven't heard before! (Removes tongue from cheek)

Not just the police this has been covered up from every angle so why do people only blame them....

People seem to forget these Asians who kidnapped groomed raped tortured abused . These girls not the police

The ultimate blame does lie with the perpetrator of any horrible act and I agree the crime itself and the victims are in danger of being overshadowed by the rush to blame the enablers.

1 Muslim women stay virgins up till marriage

2 Non Muslims have "less morals"

3. Non Muslims drink alcohol

4 The girls raped were having family issues

5 The poor girls were drugged

6 The girls were just labled as liars

7 The Asain men said they were prostitutes

Or maybe they liked the idea of 72 virgins but were not too keen on the suicide vest.

That's a disgusting comment, quite frankly.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *icketysplitsWoman over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"You can be sure if there were gangs of white men grooming underage Muslim girls then the streets would be red with blood. Hypocritical, disgusting scumbags."

Where are the streets of blood for the children abused by Savile, or Smith?

How are you so certain there aren't white men grooming Muslim girls? I'm not so certain. I don't know what you do but I know the communities and things I have done, the knowledge I have and I can't say that it doesn't happen.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *xpresMan over a year ago

Elland

"You can be sure if there were gangs of white men grooming underage Muslim girls then the streets would be red with blood. Hypocritical, disgusting scumbags.

Where are the streets of blood for the children abused by Savile, or Smith?

Muslim women cannot marry deflowered so its 99.99% impossible for a white guy to groom a Asian girls

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"You can be sure if there were gangs of white men grooming underage Muslim girls then the streets would be red with blood. Hypocritical, disgusting scumbags.

Where are the streets of blood for the children abused by Savile, or Smith?

I know there are plenty of cases arising more and more often regarding Muslim paedophile gangs targeting white girls. I haven't read one single instance of white men doing the same to Muslim children, so we'll address the issue that we actually know exists. For all their faults the BNP and EDL warned of these things happening years ago and were called sick racists, but they're being proven right. What are the Muslim community doing about it? I haven't heard them condemn these crimes, or if they are they've been extremely quiet.

I also know this is a widespread issue, as I've seen when walking past underage nightclubs scores of Muslim men hanging about trying to pick up and harassing young white girls in both Glasgow and Edinburgh. I work beside a Muslim women who herself has said the men don't do this to girls of their own religion, as Muslim girls are _iewed upon as someone to marry whereas white girls are _iewed as sexual objects as they don't follow the same values. This a major problem that needs addressing.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)

By *icketysplitsWoman over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"De-flowered" Muslims girls, by whatever route, sometimes get the full force of the blame apportioned by their family and community.

It doesn't matter which community the child comes from, making it their fault is what has gone wrong. It's not their fault. It's ours.

Reply privately (closed, thread got too big)