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"Do you have an idea of budget?
What you want or need is pretty vague "
Budget is up to about 22k and yeah i guess it was vague.
I'm torn between getting another Juke, a Hyundai ix35, a Citroen ds3 or a Renault captur.
Ideally I'd like a Volvo v40 but the lease prices are too high  |
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Ok the boring post !!
Go for something that meets your needs ( bit like on here ) if new make sure that you get one that gives you the most freebies servicing etc .
Cheap insurance and tax?
good fuel economy ?
Most cars have good engineering standards so all are very similar in Both looks,interior and optional extras ?
So if all else fails ?
4x4 black
Sporty number red lol
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"Ok the boring post !!
Go for something that meets your needs ( bit like on here ) if new make sure that you get one that gives you the most freebies servicing etc .
Cheap insurance and tax?
good fuel economy ?
Most cars have good engineering standards so all are very similar in Both looks,interior and optional extras ?
So if all else fails ?
4x4 black
Sporty number red lol
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Lol I lease it through work so insurance and tax don't really come into play
And sadly I'd never have a black car cos they never look clean and I'd never have a red one either cos I don't like them but nice try thanks  |
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"I have a ds3 cabriolet one and love it xx
That's what I really quite fancy "
its white with purple roof.. Ace to drive not.that.good on petrol but i got the 1.6version there are better ones i.e the 1.2 for petrol x |
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"I have a ds3 cabriolet one and love it xx
That's what I really quite fancy
its white with purple roof.. Ace to drive not.that.good on petrol but i got the 1.6version there are better ones i.e the 1.2 for petrol x"
I do a lot of miles so I'm probably gonna go diesel |
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"I have a ds3 cabriolet one and love it xx
That's what I really quite fancy
its white with purple roof.. Ace to drive not.that.good on petrol but i got the 1.6version there are better ones i.e the 1.2 for petrol x
thats even better.. I dont anymore which is why i went for the 1.6 x
I do a lot of miles so I'm probably gonna go diesel"
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these days I would say don't buy anything bigger than you really need, to save on fuel and road tax, unless your have a good paying job and don't care about the running cost's, then buy what ever grabs your fancy |
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"Rules of buying a car
1. Don't buy anything French
2. Buy something Japanese
Problem solved
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This. A French car will break your heart and your wallet.
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"I just bought a new VW Beetle.
He's called Barney.
I love him. 
Naming cars should be made law. 
A"
I feel really mean now cos Ive not named my current car although all the old bangers I've had always had names. Hmmm will have to think of a suitable name now |
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"I just bought a new VW Beetle.
He's called Barney.
I love him.
Naming cars should be made law.
A"
Agreed! He's so fucking cool I can't quite believe he's mine! I've wanted a Barney since I was about 10 years old!
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By *bi HaiveMan
over a year ago
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"I just bought a new VW Beetle.
He's called Barney.
I love him.
Naming cars should be made law.
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Agreed! He's so fucking cool I can't quite believe he's mine! I've wanted a Barney since I was about 10 years old!
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I had a 1964 flat screen with a folding roof a few years back called Ringo.
I killed him.
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"Rules of buying a car
1. Don't buy anything French
2. Buy something Japanese
Problem solved
This. A French car will break your heart and your wallet.
But I really fancy a Citroen Ds3 "
Don't let me stop you, if its what you want.
A mate of mine has the DS4 and in two years it's spent more time in the garage than on the road, it's even had a new engine and ECU because Citroen couldn't trace a recurring fault.
Personally I'd rather eat broken glass than own a French car..... |
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"I want a pink juke Or a pink soft top minni  "
i wanted a pink roof on mine but whe i got mine they only did the pink in the hard top version!! I decided i wanted the soft top more.. Still feel.jealous when i see a pink ds3 xx |
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BMW=big money worries
FIAT=fix it again tomorrow
LOTUS=loads of trouble usually serious.
Citreon, Renault, Peugeot are all crap, I know I have had my own garage for 30 years and they are all trouble, Ford fiestas are one of the best small cars on the market and are consitantley the number one best seller, says a lot about them |
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"Rules of buying a car
1. Don't buy anything French
2. Buy something Japanese
Problem solved
This. A French car will break your heart and your wallet.
But I really fancy a Citroen Ds3
Don't let me stop you, if its what you want.
A mate of mine has the DS4 and in two years it's spent more time in the garage than on the road, it's even had a new engine and ECU because Citroen couldn't trace a recurring fault.
Personally I'd rather eat broken glass than own a French car....."
Mmmm food for thought as I need a reliable car as I'm in it a lot which is what stops me from buying an Alfa which I love but I hear the same about them |
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"If you like cars by a bmw, if you don't care and you want something to keep the rain off, by a kia. Simple."
I will add to that. If you have unlimited money by a BMW. |
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"If you like cars by a bmw, if you don't care and you want something to keep the rain off, by a kia. Simple.
I will add to that. If you have unlimited money by a BMW. "
I like cars but really don't like bmw's |
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Why not buy a small funky Japanese (prob built in UK anyhow) and get it repainted how you want it?
Mini, BMW, VW, Audi, Merc, Any Frenchy all overrated and overpriced shite.
After 100 years of making them I'd expect it to work and last. Only Japanese designed cars seem to be able to do this.
(That said Ford and Vaux make decent cars just don't have that 'kudos' to their badges). |
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"I just bought a new VW Beetle.
He's called Barney.
I love him.
Naming cars should be made law.
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Agreed! He's so fucking cool I can't quite believe he's mine! I've wanted a Barney since I was about 10 years old!
I had a 1964 flat screen with a folding roof a few years back called Ringo.
I killed him.
A"
I'd love an original but I don't have the know how (or the never ending stash of cash) to fix it up.
How did you kill him?  |
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"Rules of buying a car
1. Don't buy anything French
2. Buy something Japanese
Problem solved
This. A French car will break your heart and your wallet.
But I really fancy a Citroen Ds3
Don't let me stop you, if its what you want.
A mate of mine has the DS4 and in two years it's spent more time in the garage than on the road, it's even had a new engine and ECU because Citroen couldn't trace a recurring fault.
Personally I'd rather eat broken glass than own a French car.....
Mmmm food for thought as I need a reliable car as I'm in it a lot which is what stops me from buying an Alfa which I love but I hear the same about them "
I'm on my 4th Alfa and never had a single issue. Most of the people telling you they're unreliable have either never owned one or owned one from the 70's or early 80's.
Most of what is considered standard in cars now was pioneered by Alfa; galvanized bodies, common rail diesel, direct injection petrol and multi-link suspension (designed in conjunction with Ferrari) were all introduced by Alfa Romeo. The electrics are all Bosch too so non of the old electrical fault stereotypes apply either. That being said, they do have their niggles and they're not the kind of car that you can neglect or miss the odd service. |
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"VW Golf - does everything!"
With build quality faults for free
Don't believe the hype - look at the reliability reports - I fix enough of these fecking things to see through the catchy ads.
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"VW Golf - does everything!
With build quality faults for free
Don't believe the hype - look at the reliability reports - I fix enough of these fecking things to see through the catchy ads.
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The engines frequently end up on the floor due to failed engine mounts..... |
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"Rules of buying a car
1. Don't buy anything French
2. Buy something Japanese
Problem solved
This. A French car will break your heart and your wallet.
But I really fancy a Citroen Ds3
Don't let me stop you, if its what you want.
A mate of mine has the DS4 and in two years it's spent more time in the garage than on the road, it's even had a new engine and ECU because Citroen couldn't trace a recurring fault.
Personally I'd rather eat broken glass than own a French car.....
Mmmm food for thought as I need a reliable car as I'm in it a lot which is what stops me from buying an Alfa which I love but I hear the same about them
I'm on my 4th Alfa and never had a single issue. Most of the people telling you they're unreliable have either never owned one or owned one from the 70's or early 80's.
Most of what is considered standard in cars now was pioneered by Alfa; galvanized bodies, common rail diesel, direct injection petrol and multi-link suspension (designed in conjunction with Ferrari) were all introduced by Alfa Romeo. The electrics are all Bosch too so non of the old electrical fault stereotypes apply either. That being said, they do have their niggles and they're not the kind of car that you can neglect or miss the odd service."
Thanks for that I can now put the guilietta back on my short list |
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Should explain I've done over 2000 mot tests so you are specifically looking for faults. And some cars mismatch their reputation as was said about Alfa.....
Mercedes' fall from grace to living on a name made 20 years ago is an example. The used to make the best cars around but then went after the green and now they're plastic shit. |
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"VW Golf - does everything!
With build quality faults for free
Don't believe the hype - look at the reliability reports - I fix enough of these fecking things to see through the catchy ads.
The engines frequently end up on the floor due to failed engine mounts....."
And gearboxes shattering due to the internal rivets shearing and punching out sideways through the casing.... |
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By *bi HaiveMan
over a year ago
Forum Mod Cheeseville, Somerset |
"I just bought a new VW Beetle.
He's called Barney.
I love him.
Naming cars should be made law.
A
Agreed! He's so fucking cool I can't quite believe he's mine! I've wanted a Barney since I was about 10 years old!
I had a 1964 flat screen with a folding roof a few years back called Ringo.
I killed him.
A
I'd love an original but I don't have the know how (or the never ending stash of cash) to fix it up.
How did you kill him? "
A loud bang came from behind, wheels locked and I went from the fast lane to the hard shoulder in a straight line between two trucks.
Basically - the engine blew up, scattered bits across the motorway and nearly killed me.
We parted ways a few weeks later when I sold him to a yuppie for far more than he was worth. Still in bits.
He looked nice but was a right fucker to drive and not the most comfortable car I've ever owned.
We're just about to get a cheap runabout for Fox. Convertible. And French. And after reading all the above? Still getting one.
I've driven cars of all nationalities, engine sizes, body styles and ages. If a car is going to be unreliable it will be - there's no guarantees simply cos it's Japanese/German or from wherever. When it comes to second hand if it's been serviced regularly and looked after and you have a decent history then that's good enough for me.
And I'd never - ever - buy a brand new car.
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"Rules of buying a car
1. Don't buy anything French
2. Buy something Japanese
Problem solved
This. A French car will break your heart and your wallet.
But I really fancy a Citroen Ds3
Don't let me stop you, if its what you want.
A mate of mine has the DS4 and in two years it's spent more time in the garage than on the road, it's even had a new engine and ECU because Citroen couldn't trace a recurring fault.
Personally I'd rather eat broken glass than own a French car.....
Mmmm food for thought as I need a reliable car as I'm in it a lot which is what stops me from buying an Alfa which I love but I hear the same about them
I'm on my 4th Alfa and never had a single issue. Most of the people telling you they're unreliable have either never owned one or owned one from the 70's or early 80's.
Most of what is considered standard in cars now was pioneered by Alfa; galvanized bodies, common rail diesel, direct injection petrol and multi-link suspension (designed in conjunction with Ferrari) were all introduced by Alfa Romeo. The electrics are all Bosch too so non of the old electrical fault stereotypes apply either. That being said, they do have their niggles and they're not the kind of car that you can neglect or miss the odd service.
Thanks for that I can now put the guilietta back on my short list "
The Giulietta is a good car. If you look at the reliability figures they're right near the top (for first MOT passes). |
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"I'm in the same situation - the possibilities are almost mind boggling."
Oh I feel for you. I'm just so overwhelmed with it and I need to make a decision pretty quick as my current lease runs out soon  |
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"I just bought a new VW Beetle.
He's called Barney.
I love him.
Naming cars should be made law.
A
Agreed! He's so fucking cool I can't quite believe he's mine! I've wanted a Barney since I was about 10 years old!
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First one was Margret, 2nd one was Matilda and ive got Reg the Rover |
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Citroens are notorously unreliable and dont hold any 2 nd hand value i had a 3 year old car few years back and 2 garages said they wudnt have a citroen on forecourt more hassle than they arevworth |
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"Should explain I've done over 2000 mot tests so you are specifically looking for faults. And some cars mismatch their reputation as was said about Alfa.....
Mercedes' fall from grace to living on a name made 20 years ago is an example. The used to make the best cars around but then went after the green and now they're plastic shit."
I think the usual failure for most Alfa's is worn upper wishbone bushes, but they're easy and cheap to sort. I've poly-bushed mine so they should last considerably longer. |
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A loud bang came from behind, wheels locked and I went from the fast lane to the hard shoulder in a straight line between two trucks.
Basically - the engine blew up, scattered bits across the motorway and nearly killed me.
We parted ways a few weeks later when I sold him to a yuppie for far more than he was worth. Still in bits.
He looked nice but was a right fucker to drive and not the most comfortable car I've ever owned.
We're just about to get a cheap runabout for Fox. Convertible. And French. And after reading all the above? Still getting one.
I've driven cars of all nationalities, engine sizes, body styles and ages. If a car is going to be unreliable it will be - there's no guarantees simply cos it's Japanese/German or from wherever. When it comes to second hand if it's been serviced regularly and looked after and you have a decent history then that's good enough for me.
And I'd never - ever - buy a brand new car.
A
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I don't buy - it's a lease through my employer! |
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Personally I mourn the passing of the first Honda Integra Type R.
No carpet, no radio, no sound insulation, perspex rear windows.....
But all the stuff underneath was a motorised porn catalogue
However non of this helps the OP - but leasing a new one under warranty is what I did last time. |
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"I just bought a new VW Beetle.
He's called Barney.
I love him.
Naming cars should be made law.
A
Agreed! He's so fucking cool I can't quite believe he's mine! I've wanted a Barney since I was about 10 years old!
I had a 1964 flat screen with a folding roof a few years back called Ringo.
I killed him.
A
I'd love an original but I don't have the know how (or the never ending stash of cash) to fix it up.
How did you kill him?
A loud bang came from behind, wheels locked and I went from the fast lane to the hard shoulder in a straight line between two trucks.
Basically - the engine blew up, scattered bits across the motorway and nearly killed me.
We parted ways a few weeks later when I sold him to a yuppie for far more than he was worth. Still in bits.
He looked nice but was a right fucker to drive and not the most comfortable car I've ever owned.
We're just about to get a cheap runabout for Fox. Convertible. And French. And after reading all the above? Still getting one.
I've driven cars of all nationalities, engine sizes, body styles and ages. If a car is going to be unreliable it will be - there's no guarantees simply cos it's Japanese/German or from wherever. When it comes to second hand if it's been serviced regularly and looked after and you have a decent history then that's good enough for me.
And I'd never - ever - buy a brand new car.
A
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No me neither... mine is a year old, someone else took the hit yet I still get what appears to be a brand new car with 8,000 miles on the clock.
That was a narrow escape though. I've flogged my last two VW Golfs for more than the scrappy would give me and my last one had 235,000 miles on the clock. I can't grumble but I can't see past VW either. |
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By *bi HaiveMan
over a year ago
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A loud bang came from behind, wheels locked and I went from the fast lane to the hard shoulder in a straight line between two trucks.
Basically - the engine blew up, scattered bits across the motorway and nearly killed me.
We parted ways a few weeks later when I sold him to a yuppie for far more than he was worth. Still in bits.
He looked nice but was a right fucker to drive and not the most comfortable car I've ever owned.
We're just about to get a cheap runabout for Fox. Convertible. And French. And after reading all the above? Still getting one.
I've driven cars of all nationalities, engine sizes, body styles and ages. If a car is going to be unreliable it will be - there's no guarantees simply cos it's Japanese/German or from wherever. When it comes to second hand if it's been serviced regularly and looked after and you have a decent history then that's good enough for me.
And I'd never - ever - buy a brand new car.
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I don't buy - it's a lease through my employer!"
I've a company car. It's German - but even if it broke and was unreliable I wouldn't have to pay to fix it and would get a courtesy car.
I guess it makes it a little easier as it's not my cash covering any reliability issues.
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"BMW=big money worries"
Not neccessarily. I've owned BMWs for 14 years now. At the moment I still have an old 328i coupe with 200 bhp. On the motorways, I keep the revs between 3 & 3 1/2 thousand revs & can keep it between 35 - 50 mpg. My insurance with Privilege is just under £450 fully comp with all the curtesy car, screen, breakdown trimmings. In the last 14 years, I've never been at the roadside broken down. With companies like EuroCarParts, parts are not expensive anymore. Just replaced both the front anti-roll bar drop links as they were old & worn - £12 each from my local motor factors. Dirt cheap. Servicing is a lot cheaper because my twin cam 24 valve engine has a chain not a cam belt. Servicing form me is buying just oil, filter, fuel filter & plugs. I have a cone air filter so that just gets washed. Beemers can be dirt cheap to own & run. |
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Only really good advice I can give is dont buy new unless you feel that it is worth loosing 4 to 6 of your 22K in the first year so you can park a car with the latest number plate on your drive to impress the neighbours. |
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"Rules of buying a car
1. Don't buy anything French
2. Buy something Japanese
Problem solved
This. A French car will break your heart and your wallet.
But I really fancy a Citroen Ds3 "
The problem is all these French car manufacturers make really nice well styled cars, Citroen have come along way in visual appeal. But remove the nice looking shell and it's still the same shit underneath |
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A loud bang came from behind, wheels locked and I went from the fast lane to the hard shoulder in a straight line between two trucks.
Basically - the engine blew up, scattered bits across the motorway and nearly killed me.
We parted ways a few weeks later when I sold him to a yuppie for far more than he was worth. Still in bits.
He looked nice but was a right fucker to drive and not the most comfortable car I've ever owned.
We're just about to get a cheap runabout for Fox. Convertible. And French. And after reading all the above? Still getting one.
I've driven cars of all nationalities, engine sizes, body styles and ages. If a car is going to be unreliable it will be - there's no guarantees simply cos it's Japanese/German or from wherever. When it comes to second hand if it's been serviced regularly and looked after and you have a decent history then that's good enough for me.
And I'd never - ever - buy a brand new car.
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I don't buy - it's a lease through my employer!
I've a company car. It's German - but even if it broke and was unreliable I wouldn't have to pay to fix it and would get a courtesy car.
I guess it makes it a little easier as it's not my cash covering any reliability issues.
A"
That's my argument it's not my own car I only put fuel in it and same I get a courtesy car when it goes wrong so I'm thinking fun car over boring but reliable  |
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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago
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Hyundai i40 or i35 belting motors lots of kit for your money and a good warrenty
likewise kia belting little cars
was delivering these to customers for arnold clerks all over the country last year much preferred them to the audis and beemers which just felt heavy and lethargic |
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Rule of thumb. For me is if its a company car / lease go for the car you probably wouldn't put your own money into Lol
As for all the this is carp that is crap I don't think there's a truly bad car built theses days. And as for break downs all makes of cars break down regardless of make cost or country of origin
How long do you keep the car anyway just out of interest |
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"Rule of thumb. For me is if its a company car / lease go for the car you probably wouldn't put your own money into Lol
As for all the this is carp that is crap I don't think there's a truly bad car built theses days. And as for break downs all makes of cars break down regardless of make cost or country of origin
How long do you keep the car anyway just out of interest"
Keep it for three years then change it or I can buy it!! |
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And on the alfas are unreliable front I used to deal with a guy who was is a mechanic and all he worked on was Italian. Acts and german one he told me afla 156 onwards reliability wise they were as good if not better that there German contemporaries and as Jeremy Clarkson once said about alfas if you do break down you got something really beautiful to look at |
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"And on the alfas are unreliable front I used to deal with a guy who was is a mechanic and all he worked on was Italian. Acts and german one he told me afla 156 onwards reliability wise they were as good if not better that there German contemporaries and as Jeremy Clarkson once said about alfas if you do break down you got something really beautiful to look at"
I saw a Disco Volante today, I'd be happy to break down in one of those. Simply the most beautiful car I've ever seen... |
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"Do you have an idea of budget?
What you want or need is pretty vague
Budget is up to about 22k and yeah i guess it was vague.
I'm torn between getting another Juke, a Hyundai ix35, a Citroen ds3 or a Renault captur.
Ideally I'd like a Volvo v40 but the lease prices are too high "
Juke is crap for rear headroom & boot, DS3 is a nice supermini, nothing special, Captur has no elbow room, and a weak engine. The ix35 has a cheap interior.
Have a look at the Suzuki S-cross. good drive, plenty room, and some good deals.
(I don't work for Suziki, BTW!) |
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"Has to be any land rover obviously you couldnt get a new one for that price but a good second hand from a reputable garage and remember they are the best 4x4xfar
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"If you like cars by a bmw, if you don't care and you want something to keep the rain off, by a kia. Simple."
Personally, I wouldn't touch a BMW, but that's my preference.
I like to be different.
From a personal point of view, there isn't a single vehicle available in the UK right now that I would buy.
Unless, I could afford an Aston Martin DB9
Oh no, hang on. The Mustang has just been launched here hasn't it
It all really boils down to what you want from a car. Your needs, budget, etc.
I, of course, will be sticking with American Muscle cars |
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