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The elephant in the room..
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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The number of threads from mainly single men complaining about lack of meets etc surely must point to the fact that swinging was really based around COUPLES swapping partners. Not lonely singletons trying to get a leg over. That's why god invented the nightclub and " 2 4 1" on shots! |
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"The number of threads from mainly single men complaining about lack of meets etc surely must point to the fact that swinging was really based around COUPLES swapping partners. Not lonely singletons trying to get a leg over. That's why god invented the nightclub and " 2 4 1" on shots!"
However with an ever aging single population it gets difficult for us old gits to get some 
The youngsters on here really should go out and chat girls up.
It would do them the power of good. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I think those threads mainly point to impatience. Plenty of single guys of all types succeed in getting involved in the swinging scene, just isn't instant. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"The number of threads from mainly single men complaining about lack of meets etc surely must point to the fact that swinging was really based around COUPLES swapping partners. Not lonely singletons trying to get a leg over. That's why god invented the nightclub and " 2 4 1" on shots!
However with an ever aging single population it gets difficult for us old gits to get some
The youngsters on here really should go out and chat girls up.
It would do them the power of good."
Now that I agree with! Why the hell would a sub 25 year old want to go swinging? One word, "issues" |
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"Why are so many couples looking for a single man or single woman to join them then?"
Why do so many swinging clubs heavily restrict single male numbers? |
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"The number of threads from mainly single men complaining about lack of meets etc surely must point to the fact that swinging was really based around COUPLES swapping partners. Not lonely singletons trying to get a leg over. That's why god invented the nightclub and " 2 4 1" on shots!"
I think the moany 'lack of meets' threads from men are a direct consequence of their crap profiles, lack of social skills and a low level of emotional intelligence, not the number of couples.  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Why are so many couples looking for a single man or single woman to join them then?
Exactly! "
Are these couples looking for Mr average? In my experience, no. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Why are so many couples looking for a single man or single woman to join them then?
Why do so many swinging clubs heavily restrict single male numbers?"
Money pure and simple. The main custom does come from couples but couples enjoy men as much as women it is just a fact of sheer numbers. |
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"The number of threads from mainly single men complaining about lack of meets etc surely must point to the fact that swinging was really based around COUPLES swapping partners. Not lonely singletons trying to get a leg over. That's why god invented the nightclub and " 2 4 1" on shots!
I think the moany 'lack of meets' threads from men are a direct consequence of their crap profiles, lack of social skills and a low level of emotional intelligence, not the number of couples. "
I think you've hit the nail on the head there! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The number of threads from mainly single men complaining about lack of meets etc surely must point to the fact that swinging was really based around COUPLES swapping partners. Not lonely singletons trying to get a leg over. That's why god invented the nightclub and " 2 4 1" on shots!
I think the moany 'lack of meets' threads from men are a direct consequence of their crap profiles, lack of social skills and a low level of emotional intelligence, not the number of couples. "
Steve I wish you'd get off that fence and say what you really think!  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Why are so many couples looking for a single man or single woman to join them then?
Why do so many swinging clubs heavily restrict single male numbers?
Money pure and simple. The main custom does come from couples but couples enjoy men as much as women it is just a fact of sheer numbers."
If it was down to money, surely they'd pack as many single men in as they could? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Why are so many couples looking for a single man or single woman to join them then?
Exactly!
Are these couples looking for Mr average? In my experience, no."
I know a few men who might be considered average in looks and size and they do exceptionally well here on fab because they are patient,fun, and have a good attitude. I am sure have seen the post constantly lamenting the whingers who expect it to instantly happen. It does not help you get laid to whine. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Why are so many couples looking for a single man or single woman to join them then?
Why do so many swinging clubs heavily restrict single male numbers?
Money pure and simple. The main custom does come from couples but couples enjoy men as much as women it is just a fact of sheer numbers.
If it was down to money, surely they'd pack as many single men in as they could?"
No... because repeat custom comes from mostly couples and couples do not want a club full of single men... and to be honest most single men don't want a club full of single men either unless it is a designated bi or gay night. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It's good that you know "a few men" there will always be exceptions. But in the main. Single men get nothing. Deservedly so. Go out and socialise!"
They don't get "nothing". They just don't get something for nothing. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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Ok, just had a look at "who's near me", of the ten profiles I can see here are the results 2 single women (one of which is my wife, the other only meets women) 1 couple (our couples profile), 7 men, 5 of whom are not verified. 2 of those been on for over a year. Oh and one of the verified men was only verified by phone.
Now you have a look! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ok, just had a look at "who's near me", of the ten profiles I can see here are the results 2 single women (one of which is my wife, the other only meets women) 1 couple (our couples profile), 7 men, 5 of whom are not verified. 2 of those been on for over a year. Oh and one of the verified men was only verified by phone.
Now you have a look!"
What is your point here? That there are no single fems on your doorstep waiting to meet you? Come on man. Venture forth. |
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"Ok, just had a look at "who's near me", of the ten profiles I can see here are the results 2 single women (one of which is my wife, the other only meets women) 1 couple (our couples profile), 7 men, 5 of whom are not verified. 2 of those been on for over a year. Oh and one of the verified men was only verified by phone.
Now you have a look!
What is your point here? That there are no single fems on your doorstep waiting to meet you? Come on man. Venture
forth."
I bet a certain gentleman wishes his poo could venture forth. |
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"Ok, just had a look at "who's near me", of the ten profiles I can see here are the results 2 single women (one of which is my wife, the other only meets women) 1 couple (our couples profile), 7 men, 5 of whom are not verified. 2 of those been on for over a year. Oh and one of the verified men was only verified by phone.
Now you have a look!"
You could always arrange a meet with the wife  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The number of threads from mainly single men complaining about lack of meets etc surely must point to the fact that swinging was really based around COUPLES swapping partners. Not lonely singletons trying to get a leg over. That's why god invented the nightclub and " 2 4 1" on shots!
However with an ever aging single population it gets difficult for us old gits to get some
The youngsters on here really should go out and chat girls up.
It would do them the power of good.
Now that I agree with! Why the hell would a sub 25 year old want to go swinging? One word, "issues""
seriously? 
whats wrong with just enjoying sex regardless of an age? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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What is your point here? That there are no single fems on your doorstep waiting to meet you? Come on man. Venture forth."
My point is as my OP suggests "swinging" is by design for couples, not singles. The one thing I don't need is more meets! |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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It's rarely the elephant in the room you have to worry about but the elephant shit.
The single men who get on with things and don't moan don't come on to the forum to bemoan or celebrate their success. They are being discrete, they have better things to do or they don't even know the forum is here.
As to the number of single men, well a lot of them have a partner. Whether that partner is engaged in this with them or not. OP, on this profile you are a single man for all searches and engagement on the forum. You are the heffelump.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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seriously?
whats wrong with just enjoying sex regardless of an age?"
Because kids that age should be out developing a personality and social skills. Not locked in their bedrooms wondering why no one wants to meet them. Go out, grow as a human being and somebody my want to! |
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"The number of threads from mainly single men complaining about lack of meets etc surely must point to the fact that swinging was really based around COUPLES swapping partners. Not lonely singletons trying to get a leg over. That's why god invented the nightclub and " 2 4 1" on shots!
However with an ever aging single population it gets difficult for us old gits to get some
The youngsters on here really should go out and chat girls up.
It would do them the power of good.
Now that I agree with! Why the hell would a sub 25 year old want to go swinging? One word, "issues"
seriously?
whats wrong with just enjoying sex regardless of an age?"
I think a lot of single men imagine that all single men share their motivation. In truth the very young guys who are looking for the kind if sex you can get on a night out in a club soon leave.fab and do just that. Those that are looking for something a bit different to that stick around. Issues is a strange word to use and I don't think it's true anyway. Possibly if more young people experienced sex as it's possible to have here there would be fewer men and women joining sites like this when they were older with issues. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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seriously?
whats wrong with just enjoying sex regardless of an age?"
Because kids that age should be out developing a personality and social skills. Not locked in their bedrooms wondering why no one wants to meet them. Go out, grow as a human being and somebody my want to! |
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seriously?
whats wrong with just enjoying sex regardless of an age?
Because kids that age should be out developing a personality and social skills. Not locked in their bedrooms wondering why no one wants to meet them. Go out, grow as a human being and somebody my want to! "
Lol, it is possible to be a member of fab and leave your room......or is there an elephant in front of the door. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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seriously?
whats wrong with just enjoying sex regardless of an age?
Because kids that age should be out developing a personality and social skills. Not locked in their bedrooms wondering why no one wants to meet them. Go out, grow as a human being and somebody my want to! "
Yet there are couples and women who like having sex with those young men. Frankly, the elitist attitude that you seem to have regarding swinging is what i see as an 'issue', not the single guys be they young or not. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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We love meeting guys and since we became a couple on this site early this year we have met several. None of them had a six pack and most had average size cocks. Most have more than two lines as their profile. One thing they all had (well most) is a sense of humour. Xx
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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seriously?
whats wrong with just enjoying sex regardless of an age?
Because kids that age should be out developing a personality and social skills. Not locked in their bedrooms wondering why no one wants to meet them. Go out, grow as a human being and somebody my want to! "
Fab and going out are not mutually exclusive. I wonder how many would suggest being tied up in a standard nightclub setting? Or a threesome or an orgy? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Lol I have turned you into single men supporters! Lol! When the band wagon rolls, seems there's plenty of room up front! "
I have always been a cheerleader for the single men of fab I just sometimes get a little irritable with the ones who expect the instashags.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Lol I have turned you into single men supporters! Lol! When the band wagon rolls, seems there's plenty of room up front! I have always been a cheerleader for the single men of fab I just sometimes get a little irritable with the ones who expect the instashags."
INSTASHAGS! LOL great name for an escort agency |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"Lol I have turned you into single men supporters! Lol! When the band wagon rolls, seems there's plenty of room up front! "
I meet them so I try and support them in an active way. Usually by bouncing on them and testing them like that IKEA chair machine.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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" I have always been a cheerleader for the single men of fab I just sometimes get a little irritable with the ones who expect the instashags."
Otherwise known as the majority of single men on fab..... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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" I have always been a cheerleader for the single men of fab I just sometimes get a little irritable with the ones who expect the instashags.
Otherwise known as the majority of single men on fab....."
Yeah... sad but there do seem to be a great many. I often wonder if those ads you see on porn sites that offer easy hook ups lead here. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ok, just had a look at "who's near me", of the ten profiles I can see here are the results 2 single women (one of which is my wife, the other only meets women) 1 couple (our couples profile), 7 men, 5 of whom are not verified. 2 of those been on for over a year. Oh and one of the verified men was only verified by phone.
Now you have a look!
You could always arrange a meet with the wife "
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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In fact, I'm taking my wife to a club tomorrow that will be wall to wall single guys, and I can't wait! Will they be moaning that they don't get meets? No, because they're getting out there and doing something about it! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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seriously?
whats wrong with just enjoying sex regardless of an age?
Because kids that age should be out developing a personality and social skills. Not locked in their bedrooms wondering why no one wants to meet them. Go out, grow as a human being and somebody my want to! "
It seems the younger generation don't know how to socialise. They have grown up with all the social media in their bedrooms. People skills don't come from a black grey whatever colour their games console is. One press of a button and the world's theirs. So they think..... Now apply that to their way of thinking. And you may....just may understand them a little better  |
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seriously?
whats wrong with just enjoying sex regardless of an age?
Because kids that age should be out developing a personality and social skills. Not locked in their bedrooms wondering why no one wants to meet them. Go out, grow as a human being and somebody my want to!
It seems the younger generation don't know how to socialise. They have grown up with all the social media in their bedrooms. People skills don't come from a black grey whatever colour their games console is. One press of a button and the world's theirs. So they think..... Now apply that to their way of thinking. And you may....just may understand them a little better "
My point is that kids today never make that initial approach in person. The 'will she won't she ?'
slow walk that seems to take forever but grows vertebe every time you make it.
Hiding behind a keyboard and only meeting those who have already messaged you to say they 'Wont do anal on a first meet' is just too comfortable.
I personally am better in this world than bars etc. as my appearance is a little intimidating, but I still got my chocolate wings...shitting myself asking a girl out face to face !! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The number of threads from mainly single men complaining about lack of meets etc surely must point to the fact that swinging was really based around COUPLES swapping partners. Not lonely singletons trying to get a leg over. That's why god invented the nightclub and " 2 4 1" on shots!
However with an ever aging single population it gets difficult for us old gits to get some
The youngsters on here really should go out and chat girls up.
It would do them the power of good."
Carefull I suggested that to a 19 year old on here and was lambasted for it |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The number of threads from mainly single men complaining about lack of meets etc surely must point to the fact that swinging was really based around COUPLES swapping partners. Not lonely singletons trying to get a leg over. That's why god invented the nightclub and " 2 4 1" on shots!
However with an ever aging single population it gets difficult for us old gits to get some
The youngsters on here really should go out and chat girls up.
It would do them the power of good.
Carefull I suggested that to a 19 year old on here and was lambasted for it "
Build a bridge,get over it for gawds sake  |
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You gotta love how older people love to talk for the younger generation...
90% of them probs are out there talking to the opposite sex, so you get a few on here...? At least they make it diverse.
Right now there's a thread being written somewhere saying "why are swingers all ugly old guys, who should of stopped having sex after the age of 30?" |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The number of threads from mainly single men complaining about lack of meets etc surely must point to the fact that swinging was really based around COUPLES swapping partners. Not lonely singletons trying to get a leg over. That's why god invented the nightclub and " 2 4 1" on shots!"
I've read forum threads / posts in the past that suggest that some couples feel that 'proper swinging' is done by couples only.
As I've said before people use this site for different reasons so even tho it has swingers in the title that's not what everyone is doing. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"You gotta love how older people love to talk for the younger generation...
90% of them probs are out there talking to the opposite sex, so you get a few on here...? At least they make it diverse.
Right now there's a thread being written somewhere saying "why are swingers all ugly old guys, who should of stopped having sex after the age of 30?""
I know, I'm writting it! |
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"The number of threads from mainly single men complaining about lack of meets etc surely must point to the fact that swinging was really based around COUPLES swapping partners. Not lonely singletons trying to get a leg over. That's why god invented the nightclub and " 2 4 1" on shots!
I think the moany 'lack of meets' threads from men are a direct consequence of their crap profiles, lack of social skills and a low level of emotional intelligence, not the number of couples. "
that may seem harsh to some but is pretty much spot on..
whilst not all will be, there does seem to be a huge amount of guys for whom this 'aspect' is instant shag and when that doesn't materialise with couples and females then they either lash out verbally or go 'unlos'..
the guys who are successful tend to reap the rewards by putting in the effort and having a positive attitude by and large..
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"You gotta love how older people love to talk for the younger generation...
90% of them probs are out there talking to the opposite sex, so you get a few on here...? At least they make it diverse.
Right now there's a thread being written somewhere saying "why are swingers all ugly old guys, who should of stopped having sex after the age of 30?""
That explains why whenever I see any groups of them out they are on their phones. The only time the average teen seems to communicate is after 11pm when, after drinking a bottle of Shotz, they totter into town and cop off with someone.
Just saying  |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"You gotta love how older people love to talk for the younger generation...
90% of them probs are out there talking to the opposite sex, so you get a few on here...? At least they make it diverse.
Right now there's a thread being written somewhere saying "why are swingers all ugly old guys, who should of stopped having sex after the age of 30?""
I remember one just like that. |
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I think as a couple you get far more out of it, long discussion, but I feel trees a far deeper psychological experience to be had with someone you love...
But it takes all types of participants to make a market. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The number of threads from mainly single men complaining about lack of meets etc surely must point to the fact that swinging was really based around COUPLES swapping partners. Not lonely singletons trying to get a leg over. That's why god invented the nightclub and " 2 4 1" on shots!
However with an ever aging single population it gets difficult for us old gits to get some
The youngsters on here really should go out and chat girls up.
It would do them the power of good.
Carefull I suggested that to a 19 year old on here and was lambasted for it
Build a bridge,get over it for gawds sake "
Humour is clearly lost on you. Good to see so many others in this thread agreeing with me and u keeping quiet though lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Why are so many couples looking for a single man or single woman to join them then?
Why do so many swinging clubs heavily restrict single male numbers?"
Which is a dam shame |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The number of threads from mainly single men complaining about lack of meets etc surely must point to the fact that swinging was really based around COUPLES swapping partners. Not lonely singletons trying to get a leg over. That's why god invented the nightclub and " 2 4 1" on shots!"
People assume far too much about swinging and one of the my this is its just a couples thing. Also i wouldn't assume knocking single guys will get anyone a better chance of a meet as it won't as negativity is not attractive. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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is it safe,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,has the elephant gone |
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Lifestyles change, as do our needs. It is bit like language - it changes, just like us. So there is no foresooth etc now. The elephant in the room is that some people are lazy, dont make much effort and probably would be equally poor at finding shag partners in the single world. It's also that a site could possibly lead to sexual satisfaction for all, it wont happen whilst people respect their tastes and preferences, for example. |
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"You gotta love how older people love to talk for the younger generation...
90% of them probs are out there talking to the opposite sex, so you get a few on here...? At least they make it diverse.
Right now there's a thread being written somewhere saying "why are swingers all ugly old guys, who should of stopped having sex after the age of 30?"
That explains why whenever I see any groups of them out they are on their phones. The only time the average teen seems to communicate is after 11pm when, after drinking a bottle of Shotz, they totter into town and cop off with someone.
Just saying "
Could just be the area you live in. Just saying |
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"is it safe,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,has the elephant gone "
its a very small one, less that the size of the average tv remote zapper thing.. |
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" I have always been a cheerleader for the single men of fab I just sometimes get a little irritable with the ones who expect the instashags.
Otherwise known as the majority of single men on fab.....
Yeah... sad but there do seem to be a great many. I often wonder if those ads you see on porn sites that offer easy hook ups lead here."
I am absolutely sure that's what happens. Perhaps not a direct link online but definitely a link in their heads. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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What is your point here? That there are no single fems on your doorstep waiting to meet you? Come on man. Venture forth.
My point is as my OP suggests "swinging" is by design for couples, not singles. The one thing I don't need is more meets!"
Swinging has evolved since the 70's. It's not 'wife swapping' anymore. It's for anyone and everyone.
Swinging = 'sex for fun'. |
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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago
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"Ok, just had a look at "who's near me", of the ten profiles I can see here are the results 2 single women (one of which is my wife, the other only meets women) 1 couple (our couples profile), 7 men, 5 of whom are not verified. 2 of those been on for over a year. Oh and one of the verified men was only verified by phone.
Now you have a look!"
I'mn ot far from you and I do just fine, thankyou.  |
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I'm not a single maie, but as a single female i'm very glad they are here. yes even the young ones, especially the young ones!
Where else would.i get laid? Lol. Clubs and pubs give me panic attacks and i'm not gonna get a shag at 'stitch and bitch'. |
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"The number of threads from mainly single men complaining about lack of meets etc surely must point to the fact that swinging was really based around COUPLES swapping partners. Not lonely singletons trying to get a leg over. That's why god invented the nightclub and " 2 4 1" on shots!"
Haha love this! Elephant on the room....
Lonely singletons trying to get a leg over lol thought the single guy ( single'! Not married/partner just me ) was caring and sensitive ie .. Won't meet non kissers !!' Ye right pmsl |
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"is it safe,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,has the elephant gone "
Pmsl loving your sense of humour lol (mrs) x |
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"Ok, just had a look at "who's near me", of the ten profiles I can see here are the results 2 single women (one of which is my wife, the other only meets women) 1 couple (our couples profile), 7 men, 5 of whom are not verified. 2 of those been on for over a year. Oh and one of the verified men was only verified by phone.
Now you have a look!
I'mn ot far from you and I do just fine, thankyou. "
25 miles. So you wouldn't come up on my "who's near" list so what's your point? |
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"is it safe,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,has the elephant gone
its a very small one, less that the size of the average tv remote zapper thing.."
Somebody get a pic with your cock next to it...novelty value = meets |
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"is it safe,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,has the elephant gone "
I hope so. It was blocking the TV |
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"is it safe,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,has the elephant gone
I hope so. It was blocking the TV "
It was also stinking the place out |
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"is it safe,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,has the elephant gone
I hope so. It was blocking the TV
It was also stinking the place out "
Phon |
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"is it safe,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,has the elephant gone
I hope so. It was blocking the TV
It was also stinking the place out
Phon"
lol Soz
Phone the zoo it's maybe on the run  |
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"is it safe,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,has the elephant gone
I hope so. It was blocking the TV
It was also stinking the place out
Phonlol Soz
Phone the zoo it's maybe on the run "
Don't think it's just an elephant that's escaped from the zoo |
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"I think those threads mainly point to impatience. Plenty of single guys of all types succeed in getting involved in the swinging scene, just isn't instant."
Just too many with expectations way over their efforts! Those of us who are realistic have plenty success...it starts by reading profiles! |
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