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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum |
That operation cost us £40,000, then he goes and sabotages it by going home early, then not asking for help when he's in danger.
Yes, its sad, but him being a berk is even sadder. |
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
Over the rainbow, under the bridge |
They did brain studies on morbidly obese people and found that when offered a favourite food the addiction centres of their brain lit up in an MRI scanner in the same way that drug addicts' do when offered their drug of choice.
This proved that at a certain point people become addicted to foid. No surprises that foods people become addicted to are high in sugar, saturated fat and/ are processed.
There is a link between the rise in obesity and the western preoccupation with junk food - either take away or supermarket.
A few decades ago 'convenience' food was expensive and most families ate fresh food cooked from scratch. Fewer and fewer do these days.
I find it astonishing to stand behind someone in a supermarket and see just junk on the conveyor with very little if any fresh produce. Bottles of 'pop', multi packs of crisps and biscuits, oven chips, chicken nuggets, etc.
The only thing I have in my freezer like that are fish fingers and I haven't touched the box for over a month. |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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"The only thing I have in my freezer like that are fish fingers and I haven't touched the box for over a month. "
Fish fingers are awesome. I eat as healthily as possible, but the sirens call of a fish finger sandwich can get a bit too much sometimes.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I will watch it on +1, watching big brother right now.70 stone man followed by big brother. Oh the irony!Yes and its on now the 70st one
wont spoil it for you then"
Its ok, you can still chat about here. I don't mind  |
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By *uby0000 OP Woman
over a year ago
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"I will watch it on +1, watching big brother right now.70 stone man followed by big brother. Oh the irony!Yes and its on now the 70st one
wont spoil it for you thenIts ok, you can still chat about here. I don't mind "
never understand how someone can be allowed to get that big |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I will watch it on +1, watching big brother right now.70 stone man followed by big brother. Oh the irony!Yes and its on now the 70st one
wont spoil it for you thenIts ok, you can still chat about here. I don't mind
never understand how someone can be allowed to get that big "
Neither me, maibe he just ate to much of the good thing. |
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By *uby0000 OP Woman
over a year ago
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"I will watch it on +1, watching big brother right now.70 stone man followed by big brother. Oh the irony!Yes and its on now the 70st one
wont spoil it for you thenIts ok, you can still chat about here. I don't mind
never understand how someone can be allowed to get that big Neither me, maibe he just ate to much of the good thing."
could be right there shags lol
they should be hospitalised at a certain weight and helped to lose it before they get this big |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I will watch it on +1, watching big brother right now.70 stone man followed by big brother. Oh the irony!Yes and its on now the 70st one
wont spoil it for you thenIts ok, you can still chat about here. I don't mind
never understand how someone can be allowed to get that big Neither me, maibe he just ate to much of the good thing.
could be right there shags lol
they should be hospitalised at a certain weight and helped to lose it before they get this big"
yes they should, ur right there so they can control it again to an healthy weight. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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What's a healthier weight then?
Significant research suggests the healthier long term group fall in the 25-30 BMI group.
Surely, the better solution or pre-emption of such problems is to deny any or all medical treatment once someone passes a threshold, say BMI of 30? |
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By *uby0000 OP Woman
over a year ago
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What's a healthier weight then?
Significant research suggests the healthier long term group fall in the 25-30 BMI group.
Surely, the better solution or pre-emption of such problems is to deny any or all medical treatment once someone passes a threshold, say BMI of 30? "
how would denying help |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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What's a healthier weight then?
Significant research suggests the healthier long term group fall in the 25-30 BMI group.
Surely, the better solution or pre-emption of such problems is to deny any or all medical treatment once someone passes a threshold, say BMI of 30? "
Not being BMI king what size is a 25-30 BMI group person? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I find it astonishing to stand behind someone in a supermarket and see just junk on the conveyor with very little if any fresh produce. Bottles of 'pop', multi packs of crisps and biscuits, oven chips, chicken nuggets, etc.
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I've been in households where the fridge and cupboards ate full of the sugary processed junk with no sign of any fresh produce so I'm not astonished anymore. Just disappointed. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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What's a healthier weight then?
Significant research suggests the healthier long term group fall in the 25-30 BMI group.
Surely, the better solution or pre-emption of such problems is to deny any or all medical treatment once someone passes a threshold, say BMI of 30?
how would denying help "
They'd either eat sensibly and look after themselves and their loved ones, or become deceased. Simple really. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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What's a healthier weight then?
Significant research suggests the healthier long term group fall in the 25-30 BMI group.
Surely, the better solution or pre-emption of such problems is to deny any or all medical treatment once someone passes a threshold, say BMI of 30?
Not being BMI king what size is a 25-30 BMI group person?"
For a 6 foot tall person, BMI of 25 is approx 85 kilos, 13 st 4, and 30 is approx 102 kilos, 16 stone. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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What's a healthier weight then?
Significant research suggests the healthier long term group fall in the 25-30 BMI group.
Surely, the better solution or pre-emption of such problems is to deny any or all medical treatment once someone passes a threshold, say BMI of 30?
Not being BMI king what size is a 25-30 BMI group person?
For a 6 foot tall person, BMI of 25 is approx 85 kilos, 13 st 4, and 30 is approx 102 kilos, 16 stone. "
I'm a bout a 26 then I guess that's good.  |
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What's a healthier weight then?
Significant research suggests the healthier long term group fall in the 25-30 BMI group.
Surely, the better solution or pre-emption of such problems is to deny any or all medical treatment once someone passes a threshold, say BMI of 30? "
It could be a feasible idea if BMI was an accurate indication of health. x |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"danger to themselves imo which is for sectioning YEs they need 24hr supervision as well, to control what they do.
n an ideal world would be good but imagine what it would cost"
Good point, it would be way to costly to keep one in day in and day out there. |
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It was a really sad story and tragic loss of life. I try not to peek at shopping trolleys, like DB9 mentions, but loathe thinking that carbonated drinks, crisps and crap like turkey twizzlers abound and are a substantial proportion of what folk eat. Some even consume alcohol when not required for medicinal purposes - oh, thats my basket. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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General query, but at what weight would someone burst? The skin has only got so much elasticity. "
It grows though and I guess a heart attack comes first. mind in the film the cook the thief his wife and his lover that chap exploded.  |
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General query, but at what weight would someone burst? The skin has only got so much elasticity. "
Pass, I could only see that being a possibility with SUDDEN inflation.
As the skin is an organ that grows and heals, I don't think you'd ever see it with even rapid weight gain. x |
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
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"It was a really sad story and tragic loss of life. I try not to peek at shopping trolleys, like DB9 mentions, but loathe thinking that carbonated drinks, crisps and crap like turkey twizzlers abound and are a substantial proportion of what folk eat. Some even consume alcohol when not required for medicinal purposes - oh, thats my basket. "
Lol it's not like I obsess about it but when the conveyor is right in front of you laden with crap it's difficult not to notice.
I usually think: where's the food? Followed by: is that for a family of four or eight? (When they only have two children). |
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I know DB9, i wasnt being critical - sometimes you really cant help but see it all piled onto the belt. I think there are some product development lines that have not yet been explored much. Home phones didnt change much in decades, then mobiles have shifted things massively. Alcopops revolutionised boring old spirits etc. Next step will come the revolution of the lard market. Flavoured lard, liquid lard, carbonated lard, super concentrated lard, but dressed up with snazzy names, just like WKD is probably meths and coloured piss in reality but sounds funky. |
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
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"I know DB9, i wasnt being critical - sometimes you really cant help but see it all piled onto the belt. I think there are some product development lines that have not yet been explored much. Home phones didnt change much in decades, then mobiles have shifted things massively. Alcopops revolutionised boring old spirits etc. Next step will come the revolution of the lard market. Flavoured lard, liquid lard, carbonated lard, super concentrated lard, but dressed up with snazzy names, just like WKD is probably meths and coloured piss in reality but sounds funky. "
I didn't think you were (hence the lol).
Interestingly, since many food processors started using high fructose corn syruo rather than sugar obesity levels have risen even faster. HFCS creates more fat in the body than sugar, so people who were buying and consuming the same products for years found they were putting on weight though they weren't eating any more.
HFCS started being used due to a surplus corn crop in the US. Farmers there were heavily subsidised and so grew more and more but needed to find a use for the surplus. Some bright spark found it would make a sweet alternative to sugar to sell to food processors. The rest is history.
What people need to start doing is eating more fresh and less processed.
However, processed food is now cheaper than fresh and so now the lower income you have the more likely you are to be obese. People with money can afford healthier food. So within decades poor people have gone from being more likely to be thin to more likely to be fat - both different forms of malnourishment.
And yet we are so judgemental about low income families who become obese. Whereas when they were underweight we had sympathy. |
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
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"I know DB9, i wasnt being critical - sometimes you really cant help but see it all piled onto the belt. I think there are some product development lines that have not yet been explored much. Home phones didnt change much in decades, then mobiles have shifted things massively. Alcopops revolutionised boring old spirits etc. Next step will come the revolution of the lard market. Flavoured lard, liquid lard, carbonated lard, super concentrated lard, but dressed up with snazzy names, just like WKD is probably meths and coloured piss in reality but sounds funky.
I didn't think you were (hence the lol).
Interestingly, since many food processors started using high fructose corn syruo rather than sugar obesity levels have risen even faster. HFCS creates more fat in the body than sugar, so people who were buying and consuming the same products for years found they were putting on weight though they weren't eating any more.
HFCS started being used due to a surplus corn crop in the US. Farmers there were heavily subsidised and so grew more and more but needed to find a use for the surplus. Some bright spark found it would make a sweet alternative to sugar to sell to food processors. The rest is history.
What people need to start doing is eating more fresh and less processed.
However, processed food is now cheaper than fresh and so now the lower income you have the more likely you are to be obese. People with money can afford healthier food. So within decades poor people have gone from being more likely to be thin to more likely to be fat - both different forms of malnourishment.
And yet we are so judgemental about low income families who become obese. Whereas when they were underweight we had sympathy. "
That's due to the prevailing and incorrect belief that obesity is purely down to greed and laziness. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I know DB9, i wasnt being critical - sometimes you really cant help but see it all piled onto the belt. I think there are some product development lines that have not yet been explored much. Home phones didnt change much in decades, then mobiles have shifted things massively. Alcopops revolutionised boring old spirits etc. Next step will come the revolution of the lard market. Flavoured lard, liquid lard, carbonated lard, super concentrated lard, but dressed up with snazzy names, just like WKD is probably meths and coloured piss in reality but sounds funky.
I didn't think you were (hence the lol).
Interestingly, since many food processors started using high fructose corn syruo rather than sugar obesity levels have risen even faster. HFCS creates more fat in the body than sugar, so people who were buying and consuming the same products for years found they were putting on weight though they weren't eating any more.
HFCS started being used due to a surplus corn crop in the US. Farmers there were heavily subsidised and so grew more and more but needed to find a use for the surplus. Some bright spark found it would make a sweet alternative to sugar to sell to food processors. The rest is history.
What people need to start doing is eating more fresh and less processed.
However, processed food is now cheaper than fresh and so now the lower income you have the more likely you are to be obese. People with money can afford healthier food. So within decades poor people have gone from being more likely to be thin to more likely to be fat - both different forms of malnourishment.
And yet we are so judgemental about low income families who become obese. Whereas when they were underweight we had sympathy. "
Actually hfcs is used because sugar is taxed heavily in America to give the corn farmers a boost. Hfcs is not used much at all in Europe is at all typicaly because it doesn't taste that nice to people used to sugar.
You will be hard pressed to find a major product on our shelves flavoured with corn syrup over sugar.
And may actually be more expensive here depending on supply. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Didn't see the programme but I really can't use the word "sad' when someone gets that fat
If you put to much of the wrong foods in and don't exercise, you get fat !
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
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"I know DB9, i wasnt being critical - sometimes you really cant help but see it all piled onto the belt. I think there are some product development lines that have not yet been explored much. Home phones didnt change much in decades, then mobiles have shifted things massively. Alcopops revolutionised boring old spirits etc. Next step will come the revolution of the lard market. Flavoured lard, liquid lard, carbonated lard, super concentrated lard, but dressed up with snazzy names, just like WKD is probably meths and coloured piss in reality but sounds funky.
I didn't think you were (hence the lol).
Interestingly, since many food processors started using high fructose corn syruo rather than sugar obesity levels have risen even faster. HFCS creates more fat in the body than sugar, so people who were buying and consuming the same products for years found they were putting on weight though they weren't eating any more.
HFCS started being used due to a surplus corn crop in the US. Farmers there were heavily subsidised and so grew more and more but needed to find a use for the surplus. Some bright spark found it would make a sweet alternative to sugar to sell to food processors. The rest is history.
What people need to start doing is eating more fresh and less processed.
However, processed food is now cheaper than fresh and so now the lower income you have the more likely you are to be obese. People with money can afford healthier food. So within decades poor people have gone from being more likely to be thin to more likely to be fat - both different forms of malnourishment.
And yet we are so judgemental about low income families who become obese. Whereas when they were underweight we had sympathy.
Actually hfcs is used because sugar is taxed heavily in America to give the corn farmers a boost. Hfcs is not used much at all in Europe is at all typicaly because it doesn't taste that nice to people used to sugar.
You will be hard pressed to find a major product on our shelves flavoured with corn syrup over sugar.
And may actually be more expensive here depending on supply."
It's not labelled as HFCS here. It appears as glucose fructose syrup and can be found in biscuits, drinks, ice cream, yogurts, cakes, soups.
Although it contains the same number of calories as sugar it is not metabolised in the human body in the same way. This can lead to weight gain. |
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over a year ago
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Ive not watched this program but it does sadden me.
Im presuming the gent was bed ridden, so who was cooking the food for him? and Why was there no help for the man prior to him getting so big? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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What's a healthier weight then?
Significant research suggests the healthier long term group fall in the 25-30 BMI group.
Surely, the better solution or pre-emption of such problems is to deny any or all medical treatment once someone passes a threshold, say BMI of 30? "
I have a BMI of 30 so I'm apparently obese. Whilst I'm not slim, lifting weights for 25 years tends to increase density with muscle rather than fat. It doesn't take into account muscle mass and is just a guide. Most professional rugby players are obese according to it and I've known some bodybuilders with BMI's of 35 plus with less than 10% bodyfat so its not an accurate way of measuring, just a guide. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Ok this comment is going to be a little contentious.
I wonder at what point a person relinquishes responsibility for thier own body. This guy couldn't get out if bed let alone look after himself.
I didn't see the whole program but I know her had a number of carers.
I also know he had a gigantically expensive medical procedure not counting all the other medical treatment he weight would of required.
If a person is mentally handicapped you would expect the state to provide care.
If a person self harms you would expect the state to provide a safe environment.
I pay my taxes and I'm happy for this money to be spent in this way.
In both cases the unfortunate individual has had to relinquish personal responsibility.
How is this any different, over eating to this extent is self harm.
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"Ok this comment is going to be a little contentious.
I wonder at what point a person relinquishes responsibility for thier own body. This guy couldn't get out if bed let alone look after himself.
I didn't see the whole program but I know her had a number of carers.
I also know he had a gigantically expensive medical procedure not counting all the other medical treatment he weight would of required.
If a person is mentally handicapped you would expect the state to provide care.
If a person self harms you would expect the state to provide a safe environment.
I pay my taxes and I'm happy for this money to be spent in this way.
In both cases the unfortunate individual has had to relinquish personal responsibility.
How is this any different, over eating to this extent is self harm.
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You know Hornpipe , you are just too insightful , overtly humanistic and lacking in pious condemnation to be here  |
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By *uby0000 OP Woman
over a year ago
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"Ive not watched this program but it does sadden me.
Im presuming the gent was bed ridden, so who was cooking the food for him? and Why was there no help for the man prior to him getting so big? "
that's what I was saying they should get help BEFORE getting to this stage |
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"Ive not watched this program but it does sadden me.
Im presuming the gent was bed ridden, so who was cooking the food for him? and Why was there no help for the man prior to him getting so big? "
there is very little help for food addicts. Yeap gastric bands/ balloons/ sleaves but even that does not cure it...( know of people who loose vast amounts of weight, yet put it all back on) Untill people get real help with the many reasons why someone uses food as a comfort or pin point the 'need', this kind of story will continue. In reality there is little difference to any addiction... They take to food rather than drugs and booze  ... To people who have never touched on these problems it is easy to condem... And mock ( not sayin that you are ) Very sad in my eyes  |
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What's a healthier weight then?
Significant research suggests the healthier long term group fall in the 25-30 BMI group.
Surely, the better solution or pre-emption of such problems is to deny any or all medical treatment once someone passes a threshold, say BMI of 30? "
yeap we could deny any help to those on more than 2 bottles of booze a day , or those who take too many drugs! Lets just herd all the addicts up and bannish em .. Outta sight, outta mind! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ive not watched this program but it does sadden me.
Im presuming the gent was bed ridden, so who was cooking the food for him? and Why was there no help for the man prior to him getting so big?
that's what I was saying they should get help BEFORE getting to this stage "
again i'll be open and honest.. im at the stage where i am too big for surgery . They have said they would be more concerend about putting me under and my organs wouldnt survive it.
my arguement was why didnt you help sooner,, they came with 'you didnt match the criteria for surgery'
my reply 'so what you are effectively leaving me to get bigger and bigger'..
so i have seen the snippet of the advert but makes me sad to see this.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"problem with food addictions is that unlike smoking and alcohol we all NEED food"
Thats very true, u cant go cold turkey on food, we need the right stuff to function |
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"problem with food addictions is that unlike smoking and alcohol we all NEED food"
yeap true, however, untill food is seen to be just as much an addiction as the other stuff ... The eat to live, not live to eat issues , will continue to be bottom of the list .
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By (user no longer on site)
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"problem with food addictions is that unlike smoking and alcohol we all NEED food
Thats very true, u cant go cold turkey on food, we need the right stuff to function
cold turkey yum"
haha low in fat high in protein.. good for you also  |
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"junk food processed foods all to blame"
Interesting point, but would that apply to alcohol, drugs, betting shops, bingo halls, or any other addiction.
Are supermarkets/food outlets simply supplying people with what they want, or are they creating the demand?
France has a significantly lower obesity problem than the UK, go to any of the supermarket giants and you just don't see the massive aisles of crisps/biscuits, ready meals, processed food that are typical in the UK.
It's difficult to believe that French supermarkets don't want to optimise profit, so it would be reasonable to assume that the demand is simply not there.
The question would then be why.
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Very often with morbidly obese people there is a "feeder".......
Often a seemingly insignificant mother or partner who cooks, shops, and enables them, encourages them, and often forces them to eat........
The feeder gets their own kicks by a feeling of power, being needed, and often indispensible to the fat person.
Take away the feeder and often the obese will recover and lose a huge amount of their addiction and their weight. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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This was a point I was alluding too, if you can't even get out of your bed how can you shop prepair and shovel the vast amounts of food in you to make yourself so fat.
Some one else has got to be involved an this person had the power to make the change. |
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